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Speaker 2: It's Martini. Celebrity poof Club. To read it while it's hot.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity poof Club, Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No,

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Speaker 1: I am so good my queen from my queendom sister wife.

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Speaker 1: Today and so freaking blessed, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm blessed to be here in the studio with you.

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy to just like get back in New York.

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Speaker 1: You guys, it's fall, as we keep.

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Speaker 2: Saying, keep on saying. Now They're like, yeah, it's actually winter.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's been like our first episode back

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, no, but we're literally back back in

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Speaker 1: So I'm rushing around the city. I've never felt more me.

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Speaker 2: I've never had so many iced coffees, like putting on

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Speaker 1: It's about events. It's about green tea, black tea.

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Speaker 2: And you know what it is. It's like, I just

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Speaker 2: I watched that Sex and the City where Charlotte almost

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Speaker 2: Yes? When she goes to something called on site therapy,

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Speaker 1: Well, now I'm thinking of this subway takes. I saw

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Speaker 2: quote unquote Seth that she like meets at a children's

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Speaker 2: a music video where she's being like, I saw a

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Speaker 2: like how the hottest thing is to like see a

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Speaker 2: you should see her hold a baby. Yeah, and she

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Speaker 1: And then he comes up to her and he's like,

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Speaker 1: The episode of One Tree Hill that I watched last

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it felt like I was watching Days of

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Speaker 2: It's only like she sees the bars the most set

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Speaker 2: Her childhood, it's very it ends with us where her

439
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 2: dad was like slightly abusive to the mom and would

440
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: like throw pasta at the mom.

441
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like getting in such a food fight.

442
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: And she's like, is like the spaghetti sauce stains are

443
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: still on mama's curtains.

444
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 1: And then you know, so she's like caught in this

445
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: pattern in the cycle of you is. And of course

446
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: so her first husband is actually like so terrifying and

447
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: literally tries to kill Scary and is charged with attempted.

448
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 2: Murder literally attempted murder.

449
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: Goes to jail for like four years, it gets out,

450
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: then commits suicide, which she doesn't mention the book.

451
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: But so it's kind of like no wonder hashtag is

452
00:21:59,200 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: a good fight?

453
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, I get it. And it's like the husband,

454
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: like my ex does sound like an asshole.

455
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: But he's not abusive. He just like is not a

456
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 2: real cheater, and he's more verbally abusive. Yeah, she's crying

457
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: and he'll be like, boohoo, what are you crying again?

458
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like, I was in the downstairs, upstairs

459
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: laundry room crying.

460
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 2: Oh wait. She's also always like referencing really subtily like

461
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: her breast implants, but keeps in calling it her breast augmentation.

462
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Speaker 1: I just I had the favorite. A few months after Vancouver,

463
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: I was recovering from a breast augmentation at home in Nashville.

464
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: I was I had a lot of physical limitations. I

465
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: couldn't lift anything in my bedroom. My laundry basket was

466
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 1: filling up. Oh wait, this is when she's like crying

467
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: in the laundry room. I left the laundroom to go

468
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: to the bedroom again. It's just it's always just the

469
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: different all she is just moving between rooms in her house.

470
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: But I love how casually I was recovering from a.

471
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Speaker 2: Not the one, just one.

472
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like it's a haircut.

473
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Speaker 2: And then she's like, I need my surgery bra. She

474
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: was like, and I had such trouble asking for help,

475
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 2: which is such a therapy thing of people being like,

476
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: here's the thing. I'm actually so independent and I'm so stubborn,

477
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 2: so I never asked for help. And she asked him

478
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: to wash a bra for her, and he puts it

479
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: in the wash, but then he doesn't dry.

480
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: You know, she's always been such a self starter and

481
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: fought for herself, as you know. And I may quote

482
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: when they're having financial conversations around their divorce. I was

483
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: told not to communicate with my expect logistics. But how

484
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: couldn't I say anything? This was my life, this was

485
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: my money, money that I had fought to earn for years.

486
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: I was the girl who stole toilet paper from the

487
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: wood Ranch, b bugau and grill and ate frozen to

488
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: quitos for a grueling year while I tried to make

489
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: it in La.

490
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: It's so La girl. It reminds me of our dear

491
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: friend Maddie host of Nosecandy, La Resident and staying there

492
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: when we did our La show and looking in her

493
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: freezer box of frozen teqita.

494
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: And she's also stealing deep from the wood Ranch, BBQ

495
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: and grillque. The fact that she says BBQ and grill,

496
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: it's just so just like a Simpson where she's like,

497
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: I'm adding color and texture. It's my interesting book.

498
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: And also, if I may this part about money, he's

499
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 2: buying this five hundred dollars watch, but she felt she

500
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: never deserved the money and to spend it. And one

501
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 2: day she sees it beautiful with the ring four one

502
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: hundred dollars bird ring.

503
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: With a bird like leaving a cage, and she's with

504
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: Sophia Bush her coaster of One Tree Hill.

505
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Now lesbian with Ashland Harris.

506
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wonder if Sophia thought Janet was hot.

507
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: No, because Sofia I feel like wants a foot I

508
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: don't think she wants this tiny Nashville. I don't see

509
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 2: the sexual attention.

510
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: So she's like, oh, I don't know if I can

511
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: afford this three hundred dollars ring, and Sofia, Butu's just like, no, babe,

512
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: you're a serious regular on season eight of One Tree Hill.

513
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: You can afford this three hundred dollars bird ring. So

514
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: she buys it, and then she's like, and then every

515
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: time I look at it, I see the bird leaving

516
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: the cage, and I think, yes, I am a bird

517
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: leaving a cage.

518
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: And then she's like, to quote one of my favorite authors,

519
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: Maya andrew Ullo. She's always going from a Maya Angelou

520
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: quote to it just an online quote about divorce that's

521
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: like anonymous, to then like Ephasian's thirty eight two.

522
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: At a certain point, the God references just start, like

523
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: she just starts slipping him in how do you find

524
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: beauty in the worst of times? Jesus was rejected more

525
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: than any of us. He knows what it's like to

526
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: feel betrayed by the ones you love, which is why

527
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: quote the Lord is close to the broken hearted and

528
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: saves those who are crushed in spirit Psalms thirty four eighteen.

529
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: What'd she say, Oh, period, Psalms thirty four eighteen, of course.

530
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, so getting back into exercise was

531
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: really hard for me, but now I can just run

532
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: to worship music and it feels really good.

533
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. When she's running and she's just like singing along.

534
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: To God, she's so crazy and small see list Hollywood

535
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: star that she's like, I wasn't really exercising that much.

536
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: I was just doing my classic to a day workout

537
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: with my trainer. Yeah, but then I needed to get

538
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: serious and you guys. Once I had a peanut butter

539
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: and jelly sandwich in between workouts.

540
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: I know, give me, I'm pregnant. Sorry, I was pregnant.

541
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: I know. I'm discussing and gaining thirty five pounds and

542
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: my first husband told me I was fat and then

543
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: tried to murder me. But then I ran a half

544
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: marathon and I finally got thin again, and like, also,

545
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: half a book is just her being like, so yes, mama,

546
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: Like I did start running a lot and I got

547
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: thin and I looked at it.

548
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 2: Yes, I look good, okay, And it was hot girl summer,

549
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: not because I was being a slut, but because I

550
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: was listening.

551
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: To God and I was taking a lot of selfies.

552
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: But I was also finding myself Phasian's thirty six Okay,

553
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: back to money though.

554
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: But also best line ever in the book when she

555
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 2: goes I created my first ever Excel spreadsheet, that's what.

556
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: Okay, after left night, I created my first ever Excel spreadsheet.

557
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: We all remember that moment.

558
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: Wait, when was yours my first Excel?

559
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's probably Honestly, I'm not gonna lie,

560
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: it may have been post college, because I don't know

561
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: when I would have used Excel in college, and I

562
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: think it probably was when I was working in fundraising.

563
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Wow, when was my first Oh, probably when I was

564
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: doing casting right out of college.

565
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: Right, it's not until job life that we start using Excel.

566
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: And I remember being like, ooh, I wish I like

567
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: learn more about this in college because I'm being slow

568
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: about it. Okay, So after her abusive husband, though, she

569
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: gets her gallbladder removed.

570
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: Oh, when she's shooting in Romania Necropolis seven, and this

571
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: is early, she's like nineteen, and so she goes to

572
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: this hospital like Bucharest and they're just like, oh, you're

573
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: appendix's about to burst and the like remove her appendix

574
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm still in so much main I

575
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: feel like I'm dying. And she's in this fully haunted

576
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: hospital and then her mom comes and is like, hmm,

577
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: we're flying you to La like.

578
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: And like keeping your feet elevated.

579
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: And then they're like, it's actually your gallbladder. They get

580
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: it removed. They're like, if you had gone one more day,

581
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: your spleen would have and it's a little bit like, yeah, babe, listen,

582
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: no offense to the Romanians, but it's just like if

583
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: you have a mysterious pain, Like, don't just like sit

584
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: there for a week being like I'm still in pain.

585
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: This is weird, Like what's going on?

586
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: I feel like that's so you though, like you would

587
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: just be at a hospital in Romania.

588
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: I would maybe initially, and then I would fly and

589
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: then if the pain was still like an issue, I

590
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: would like be like, Okay, I'm maybe going to London

591
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: or New York, right, But.

592
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, as you know, my girlfriend got her

593
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: gallbletter removed after much much medical misinformation, yes, and years

594
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: of them being like, oh no, you have like pancreatitis

595
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: and you.

596
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Have sebo oh cebo.

597
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: Cibo is like another gastro thing where like you're only

598
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: supposed to like eat beets or something. Anyway, if you're

599
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: having stomach problems, maybe you have gallstones.

600
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you have gallstones, had it out, and if you're

601
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: having a serious medical emergency.

602
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: And again, we love Romania.

603
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: I love Romania, but go to a rich country and

604
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't get it moving. Wait.

605
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: Sorry, Also, the nineteen year old husband wasn't that her

606
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 2: second husband because she got married in Vegas.

607
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, and she was like that guy was also

608
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 1: toxic and he disappeared for six months after they got

609
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: married and then lied about his dad dying.

610
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: And if I can just read her outfit when she

611
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: gets married in Vegas, Kitty Perry style, Basically she's wearing

612
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: a Vonda chat a baby tea in Abercombie cargoes when

613
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: she gets married in Vegas.

614
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I love the Vanda chat. Yeah, she's been so

615
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Charlie XCX so this guy. So they meet at a

616
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: coffee bean and Tea on Fairfax Classic.

617
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: And he tells her that he's Eminem's DJ and she's

618
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: from Michigan. As a lot of the times in the book,

619
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: she refers to herself as there's two Janas.

620
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: There's Michigan Jana and regular Jana. And when Michigan Jana

621
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: is in town, like things are good. So I met

622
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: him at a coffee being on Fairfax and sense he

623
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: had bad boy charm that made my heart race. In fact,

624
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: he could trump us about anyone. He said he was

625
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: a DJ for Eminet, had the DJ cases and everything.

626
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie Detroit Hart skipped a double beat

627
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: for that. It's like skipped a double beat. It's an

628
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: interesting phrase. I didn't doubt for one second that he

629
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: had met Eminem or that he was a DJ, but

630
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: I didn't find out the truth about both of those

631
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: things until a year or so later. I feel like

632
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: she doesn't really follow up on that.

633
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: No, She's just kind of like, he disappeared and then

634
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: I found him and he was like, my dad died,

635
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: and then he turns out he was an Eminem's DJ,

636
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: But she doesn't really get down to the conversation of

637
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: it all.

638
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

639
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing about quote unquote what Seth

640
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: said as he was just like, why do you think

641
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: Janna has been married four times? Burn?

642
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and she it says as much in

643
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: the book where she's like, I'm just, you know, because

644
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: of having bad relationships with men, I just always then

645
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: want a good relationship and I'm always like, so's fix

646
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: for me, he will heal me, and I'm just so

647
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: desperate for love. I means, she has this line when

648
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: the therapist is like, don't go to the supermarket when

649
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: you're starving.

650
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: That whole page is actually so bethany where, there's like

651
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: so much any aphorisms.

652
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole book is random. And then there's

653
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: this other part where the therapist says, stop going to

654
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: home depot looking.

655
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: For Brad that part I screamed.

656
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: This book is almost kind of a psychic sister to

657
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: the Jared Fogel book, where it's it is about killing,

658
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: imprisoning psychological landscape of suburbia when just like you look

659
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: at one Tree Hill and like the way that that

660
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: whole show is just like so weird and sad and

661
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: everyone's just in a weird house. Like she only is

662
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: ever moving from one room of her house to another.

663
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: The only way she can think of something is just like,

664
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: am I driving in my like massive Chevy navigator like

665
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: to pick up my kids? Or am I not driving

666
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: in my massive link navigator?

667
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: She says she likes to stay home and it's like

668
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: again it's right like being around a huge island with

669
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: her queendom, and she talks about how like she was

670
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: like wait when I started dating, actually, like the group

671
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: text was more fun than the dating, which is like

672
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: so classic. But the only time she travels, and she

673
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: pushes herself to do this if I may.

674
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Her always go to Irah to Ireland.

675
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: And so she's going for work to Ireland and it's unclear,

676
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: like are you shooting cowboy? Christmas five Are you wait?

677
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: By the way we watched I didn't realize the half

678
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: of her this book that she was the star of

679
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: a Cowboy Christmas.

680
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: She literally watched this past Christmas.

681
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she plays Lexi Crimshaw on. Her acting in

682
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: that movie is also pretty bad and like she's kind

683
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: of barely acting she honestly.

684
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: She says in this book, I'm an okay singer and

685
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm an okay actor, but I'm a great mom period period.

686
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: She's open about her skill.

687
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Jana, are you trying to make another

688
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: album or you just in more Cowboy Christmas Land.

689
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: Now I think that she can keep just shoving out

690
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: a lifetime movie every year and that's fine, and.

691
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: Doing her hit podcast on iHeartMedia.

692
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: It's probably why this office in forty five minutes, No

693
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: whine Dad.

694
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: It's like award winning what award anyway. Her therapist is like,

695
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: you should take like a day and have fun in Ireland,

696
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: and she's being like, well, but I can't because like

697
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: my friend Pamelin doesn't have a passport. She's like, my

698
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: tour manager weren't going. It's like the idea also of

699
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: just like hanging out alone in Ireland the day after

700
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: is like not even an option.

701
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: She literally can't be by herself, and again, this is

702
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: why she's married four times. She's just like, there was

703
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: no way that I could, as she says, trapes down

704
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: a cobblestone street by myself.

705
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Because I went on a mission to find my partner

706
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: in chasing joy. I asked Pamelin to go with me,

707
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: and she said yes right away. She is the epitome

708
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: of free and fun and we were going to make

709
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: the very best of it, and boy did we ever.

710
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna skip ahead here. Once Pamelin and I had

711
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: boarded our air linka's flight, she pulled out a piece

712
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: of paper entitled Ireland bucket list. Drink again Us, eat

713
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Shepherd's pie, Skip down a cobblestone street, see the cliffs

714
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: of mahar kiss An, irishmen. We're just about half of

715
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: the funny yet memorable moments we were about to check

716
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: off we land in Ireland, I felt this surge of

717
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: energy and excitement I've never felt before. I was happy, genuinely,

718
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: really really happy. And then she's like, wait, I should

719
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: like take a trip.

720
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Should literally go on one trip?

721
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: Ever?

722
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: Wait, what's on your island?

723
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: Barcket list see the Coast.

724
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we haven't done that.

725
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: We didn't see the coast.

726
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: We have drank a single Guinness.

727
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: We drank Inness, for sure, but I haven't kissed an irishman.

728
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: I don't think I have. Ow you did.

729
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: I would like to shear a sheep. Oh yeah, like

730
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: get a field for sure.

731
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're going to be so heavy and

732
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: the hoods are going to be kind of like kicking

733
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: you in the face. But I do want that.

734
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we could do it together.

735
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: I would also love to drive in like a rickety

736
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: old beetle across the country like in the movie Leapier.

737
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: I know, because our driving was so.

738
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: I also like to plant a bomb in a ship

739
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: in the beltast her On behalf of the IRA Absolutely.

740
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: I think I would like to go to like a

741
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: football game, oh foot match, Yeah, like a fret match,

742
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: and like just like get in like such a row.

743
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: I think that could be super fun to get in

744
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: a row.

745
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: And I mean I stepped danced in Ireland, but I

746
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: would still like to really learn how to step down.

747
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. We were more just like jigging with a crowd.

748
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so funny.

749
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: It was really fun.

750
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: And it's really good for your core. I looked up

751
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: classes classes. There is a studio in Midtown, so that's

752
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: on the list. I went to her Christianity journey for

753
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: a second because she grows up Catholic, and I was

754
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: surprised because I was like, we was mentioning Jesus so

755
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: much because it's like southerns are more Jesus. I feel

756
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: like Catholics are more about like God and guilt.

757
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Catholics aren't really like quoting shit all the time.

758
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: Know. But then of course she goes to like such

759
00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: a Nashville suburban cool mega church she gets rebaptized.

760
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: Well, okay, the insane part where she's just like someone

761
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: told me that, like, you need to find a way

762
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: to relate to God. So I was like, I wish

763
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: that God just was wearing Chuck.

764
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: Taylors and had tattoos.

765
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: And then I went to a New Life Baptist Mysavandelical

766
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: whatever church and I couldn't believe it. The pastor had Chuck.

767
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: Taylor, can you believe it? And you know he was

768
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: the most Nashville like, scary Keith urban looking like faux

769
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: hawk guy. But then the pastor. She texts him and

770
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: she gets vulnerable and she's like, I'm having problems with Hi.

771
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: I'm getting over my ex. And then he sends her

772
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: a shirtless.

773
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: Selfie in his personal home sauna, which is so fucked

774
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: up a pastor who she trusted, and she was like,

775
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: I thought i'd trust to God. If this is what

776
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: God was, I didn't want any part of it. And

777
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, well, can we see the selfie?

778
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: Seriously, like can we have a photo? So she leaves

779
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: that like New Life Baptist ministry, but obviously joins like

780
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: another scary suburban Nashville church and get baptized. And there

781
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: is a chapter here she's like, wait, you guys, let's

782
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: like talk about God for a second. After she's been

783
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: talking about God for this whole book, and she's like,

784
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: I got baptized, and I wanted Jolye and Chase to see.

785
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: Wait do you have the part of it where she's

786
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: teasing the kids to pray And she's like every night, like, oh,

787
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: they pray.

788
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: In like a different way. And she's like and Jase

789
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: will pray for his doggies and his like, and she's like,

790
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: you can pray to whoever you want.

791
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: And like Jase always says, like the end, at the

792
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: end of his prayer, which is so cute, I actually.

793
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: Did pray last night.

794
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: I did, yeah, because I was reading this book in bed.

795
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 2: Genesis fifty twenty. You intended to harm me, but God

796
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: intended it for good, to accomplish what is now being done,

797
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 2: the saving of many lives.

798
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: That's actually what I went. I said that verbatim.

799
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: I just say, like, the only time I think I

800
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: really prayed is like when I've had like horrible like

801
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: food poisoning or diarrhea.

802
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. You come in times of need.

803
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 2: Yes, and I need to come in times of gratitude. Yes.

804
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: You need to build up a little bit.

805
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: Of a build up.

806
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: A reserve of gratitude of God so that He lives

807
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: up for you in times of needs.

808
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: And he in his car Heart, double knee pants, new

809
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 2: edition Oasis, Sambas and wife.

810
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Please her will listen to me. I want to just

811
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: talk briefly about her writing style. It is maybe one

812
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: of not going to say, least literate, but it's one

813
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: of the.

814
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: Profound for sure.

815
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it is one of the least literate. I don't

816
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: know the way that she describes things almost kind of shocking.

817
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Here's the sentence. I have a tattoo of an ampersand

818
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: the typographic symbol for and tattooed on my arm for

819
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: a reason. I'm like, who are you explaining what the

820
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: definition of ampersand is for the typographic symbol for? And

821
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: I think it's for It's because she being like all

822
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: my Christian mamas, like they may not know about this

823
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: fancy symbol.

824
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: I think it's for the Christian mamas. And then this

825
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: begins a whole her Romanian fans. Yeah, that's true, and

826
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: maybe like ampersan, that's not how we say it in Romania.

827
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: The writing style is in a way I think she

828
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: is trying to mix which this is what I think

829
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: she's going for. Conversational journal, Christian chicken soup for the

830
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: love attic soul.

831
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely Christian. Because she says she's been revealing,

832
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: but she's always just been like the signs it's because

833
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: she's not actually even been that revealing. She just says that,

834
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: like she just found a message in her husband's scent box,

835
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: and she's like, by the way, I always look the

836
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: scent messages too.

837
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: What's I feel like the most Justica Simpson about it,

838
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: and like chicken soup for the soul is like the

839
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: examples feel like you're watching dramatic re enactments on like

840
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: the Oxygen Channel. Yes, like it's all just like scenes

841
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: of man's grabbing a gun or like smoking a cigar

842
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: and a hussy coming up to him.

843
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: It's blurry. There's definitely, it's everything is a blurry react.

844
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: It's always like the drawer opened and I pulled out

845
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: the gun case, or.

846
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: She's like my husband's after you know, she didn't trust him.

847
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: She would be like he said he just wanted to

848
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: go with his friends and smoke a cigar, but I

849
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: didn't trust him. And I'm imagining again, like honestly, a

850
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: scene from One Tree Hill that's like a redheaded woman

851
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: in a bikini being like, come back to my place

852
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: and him being like, oh, yeah, you're smoking and you

853
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: just see like a flip phone being like I'll be

854
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: home later, and her being like.

855
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh and you see like a girl in wedges with

856
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: blonde hair laughing and she gets into a camaro. This

857
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: is my favorite line of the book. I have loved

858
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: sunsets my entire life. I am sure they are a

859
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: message from God, and this one was as sure as

860
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm from God as I've ever seen. Sunsets are a

861
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: visual reminder of a day ending period.

862
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Period Sunsets are a time of a day. And so

863
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing some of my notes here and I

864
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: forgot this. Probam, She goes Maria Minuna's grab me after

865
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: my divorce was final.

866
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: No, I mean if you don't get a hug from

867
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: manunas after a divorce.

868
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: No, it's not a divorce. It's not a divorce.

869
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Also, so there are chapter headings in this book, and

870
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: there are like quotes that being in the chapter headings

871
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: multiple times. There is a quote from the film Under

872
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: the Tuscan Sun as one of the chapter heads.

873
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: That's just like Frances, you need to get divorced, no.

874
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: One of them. That's like remarkable things can happen even

875
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: late in the game.

876
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And then she says it like Francis mays

877
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: under the Tusk and.

878
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Sun, Like she's fucking quoting like Gabriel.

879
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: Literally will go to for I know the plans I

880
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: have for you, Jeremiah. I love it. She's pulling stuff

881
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: out of the Bible. That's very The third Testament, like

882
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: I know that doesn't exist, but.

883
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: It's very like Testament.

884
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: It's a very like new churches that have extra books.

885
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What we're calling.

886
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: Extra books's where they're getting to the Book of Josh.

887
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: Quotes like Under the test and Sun Michelle Obama Feesians

888
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: like all in the same page. And she's like, as

889
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama said, when they go low, we go high.

890
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: But as Jodi Picou said in her book, as the

891
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: page turned, but when Jeremiah said, And.

892
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: That's why I do think it's important to compare Under

893
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: to the Bible because they are literally important.

894
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: It's also the most amazing divorce movie.

895
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean that movie is the one of the most

896
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: movie inspiring films of all time. Blows Eat Play Live

897
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: out of the.

898
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: Water, Oh my God, because it's like, yes, try to

899
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: get water working in a villa. Try.

900
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: There's just this way where she says things like I

901
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: don't know, she is completely insane, Like the point when

902
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: the therapist is like, one time, my therapists like in order

903
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: to help my husband, like better imagine our couples, therapists

904
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: told us an analogy one time that always helped me

905
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: when it came to healing. He told us to picture

906
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: that my ex was driving a car and crashed the

907
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: car so horribly that my injuries included losing both of

908
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: my legs. He looked at my ex and said, you

909
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't just tell her to move on and forget about it,

910
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: would you?

911
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 2: She lost her legs.

912
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: It's like, that's helpful to you imagining you lost both

913
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: of your legs in a car accident. That's just a

914
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: metaphor you returned to regularly.

915
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: I mean, some people need you know. That slap in

916
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: the face so fucking crazy. Honestly, I was thinking and like,

917
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 2: I read this interview on Jesus talks dot com between

918
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: her and my ex when they were still together, and

919
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: it's so tense. We're basically one of them will be

920
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: asked a question and he starts off the interview by

921
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: being like, for example, we got in an argument this

922
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: morning and this book is about like healing this. And

923
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, so you were fighting before leaving the home.

924
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: They're like, did you give Jason snack? We have an

925
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: interview at five with Jesus Talks online dot com slash podcast.

926
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: Did you see the talking points I sent over for

927
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: you to talk about how we fight good and then.

928
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: They'll respond to each other in the Jesus talks being like,

929
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: well said, honey, do you call your lover honey? That

930
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: seems like for parents, Honey, I feels strange for me,

931
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: And that's just personal, honey, feels strange to me.

932
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: Strained, Oh, strained. I guess if I do say it,

933
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: there's like a hint of self awareness that I am

934
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: doing a little bit of a performative kind of honey,

935
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: old fashioned. Okay, Honey, Sweetie. I mean I call him

936
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: sweetie a lot and again, but you know, names I

937
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: think are always like a little bit performative, of course,

938
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, babe is like so millennial and fun, right, babe, Babe, babe.

939
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: Because that's when you say, like you want something, Babe,

940
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: can you give me a water?

941
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, babe, did you book the tickets? But it's eighties

942
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: and zero, right, because millenn eighties are back, Well, the

943
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: eighties are back, and we're children of.

944
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: The eighties, eighties babies.

945
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm a nineties baby and an eighties Mercedes and an

946
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: eighties baby without a Mercedes. Ultimately, thank you so.

947
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: Much for being in my queendom. By the way, oh

948
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: my god, and you know I am there.

949
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Whenever you need to sign those divorce papers. I will

950
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: be waiting for you on the bench in your second closet.

951
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: At one point, and I will do this for you.

952
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: One of the members of her queendom goes up to

953
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: quote unquote my ex with she says a something like

954
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: a twenty by sixty blow up photo of their wedding photos. Okay,

955
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: it's so crazy. It's like very group on massive canvas

956
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 2: print out goes up to him and goes, you're throwing

957
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: it all away? Did you really want to do this?

958
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: Did you really want to do this time?

959
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: This is actually crazy, these seeds. So when in orlanda

960
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: to play a show, I looked in Sawdust as a

961
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: number that, when googled, were not places that a married

962
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: man should be dialing. So it's like one of the

963
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: times she finds out to these t My ex was staying

964
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: at our neighbors during our first split, and Sarah was

965
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: the girl who marched up the street to see him.

966
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: She brought along a sixty by thirty inch wedding photo

967
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: of us and said to him, how could you mess

968
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: this up? I'll never forget sweet little Sarah carrying that

969
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Shutterfly framed canvas as she hiked up iron Wood Drive.

970
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Thirty by sixty shutterfly? Are you by sixty Shutterfly? I mean,

971
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: because you know their house is massive, blown up photos

972
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: of them and the kids and Christmas and Michigan and

973
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: his football career and her album thirty one? Yeah, taking

974
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: that off the wall? How could you her?

975
00:46:51,920 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: Her like certified bronze album.

976
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: Segments sixteen, How does she live?

977
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: How does she wear?

978
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: What does she eat?

979
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: What does she eats?

980
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 2: Not much? Its She is cooking for her kids from

981
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: Cavalari's cookbook and is making them like sweet potato fries.

982
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's heard of healthy stuff. I mean, she's

983
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: also just been so nasty and like Hormel. She's like

984
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: not going to the deli because she's weirded out by

985
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: asking for them to make her So she's buying that

986
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: like pre package where it's called like deli style ham

987
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: for the kid sandwiches.

988
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not buying Hormel. She's not as like Applegate,

989
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: I think is Kristen and more like.

990
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. She is the deli style like

991
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: she is Hormel.

992
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: Right, just maybe like one step above.

993
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Just deal with it.

994
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: She's Hormel, she's not buying Hormel, but she's Kroger. She's

995
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 2: said that's her old bibecue. But I think four hundred

996
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: dollars purse.

997
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't think even doing Applegate. I don't know.

998
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: Maybe she's just like more craft.

999
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's getting baby Bell Jesus for the kids

1000
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: who love their baby Bell.

1001
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: And like she's having sushi on a girl's night out

1002
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: on Broadway.

1003
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: Can't you see her?

1004
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: Just I don't like sushi, chicken sushi, Chi sushi.

1005
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: She's chicken sushi. Does she drink because she said at

1006
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: the bounce Castle party she said grabs a drink, But like,

1007
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: is she grabbing like a lemonade?

1008
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: She does, because she says on nights where I just

1009
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: wanted to wine's huge glass of Josh.

1010
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very cougartown in that way.

1011
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like Costa Migo's water ice she likes, or

1012
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: it's red wine. But I think she is.

1013
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: Like a nice hot glass of cab and then.

1014
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: Is like, go for a run. Don't have a hot

1015
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: glass of cab? Then how does she It's like so

1016
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 2: storage like everything, it's like little containers of chips put

1017
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: into another piece.

1018
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's also very like Studio McGee

1019
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: in this way where it's just like such.

1020
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: A white old and like white and it's.

1021
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Actual snowstorm in there. You can't see anything, and it's

1022
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: like there's a cream rug on the carpeted interior closet

1023
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: of her like second guest bedroom. Yeah, that has so

1024
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: many like benches in the closet and like underlighting.

1025
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: Except she mentions does she mentioned having a laundry room

1026
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 2: with her like interior designer, and they have a massive

1027
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 2: cross nailed.

1028
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: They have like a custom channel leer that looks exactly

1029
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: the same as like a non custom him. It's like

1030
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: such a cage.

1031
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: The end of the book is her buying like a

1032
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: nearby farm close to her other house and being like

1033
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: I built in a screened and porch just for me

1034
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: off of my walking closet. It's again more closets.

1035
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: Closets and laundry room.

1036
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that's like upper laundry sheet laundry.

1037
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: And there is like a hanging framed sign that says

1038
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: SuDS in the.

1039
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: In the SuDS at home, wash up love SuDS. Does

1040
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: she wear like she is a little tank means it's

1041
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: swayed booties. It's Christian girl Autumn. I mean on the

1042
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: cover she's laughing, black tank top.

1043
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: She's a little bit more. I'm an interesting girl.

1044
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: She's a flint.

1045
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: By wearing this kind of ass is watchings and a

1046
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: flannel tight around her waist, and the.

1047
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: Flannel tied around her waist on the cover of her

1048
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: book is saying like, I'm interesting.

1049
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm on that, I'm interesting. I have two country albums.

1050
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: But she's wearing so much thin uncommon James jewelry and

1051
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: stettle backs bracelets, just like you can't be a woman

1052
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: and not have stack bracelets now.

1053
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: And I think she's sometimes throwing on a massive brunch

1054
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: chat for chicken sushi.

1055
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: For chicken sushi, and then she's like, but I realized

1056
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: that that hat was a way of me hiding yes.

1057
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: And so I took off the hat and I ran

1058
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: and I just ram, who are you in the book?

1059
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: I think you're Pamelin.

1060
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm there. I'm not letting your ex go into the

1061
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: master And I'm sitting on like the foyer bench and

1062
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: the upstairs foyer, like both outside the laundry room, like.

1063
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: A sign that says like fold them up, boys, you're

1064
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: going to Ireland.

1065
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: No, we are going to Ireland.

1066
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Not coming in this closet.

1067
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: It's not your steventh closet anymore.

1068
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: I am I.

1069
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: Mean, are you just another member of the queen?

1070
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: I was like, am I Seth being like damn, this

1071
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: bitch is crazy.

1072
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: And you're like such a good dad, like at a

1073
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: bounce house. I don't think that you would be like,

1074
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: let's go in the bounce castle together. I think you

1075
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: would be like, I'm getting not just in there.

1076
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm grabbing a drink. Okay. Am I Aaron Opera?

1077
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: I think I'm Sophia Bush, like I'm on set with her,

1078
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: and I'm like by the bird.

1079
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: You're like literally by the bird the bird.

1080
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: But like I'm never talking to her again.

1081
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: That's true.

1082
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: It's hard.

1083
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, in many ways, this is one of the

1084
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: worst books I've ever read, but it's also one of

1085
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: the funniest books I've ever had.

1086
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: I know, it's one of the best. I had so

1087
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: much fun reading it. I was cracking up, like I

1088
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: was screaming, laughing, saying like whiskey, golf and guns. Yeah,

1089
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: it's closets thirteen foot Christmas tree feeding.

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Speaker 1: Would ranch bebecue grill. I don't know, Janna. You know

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Speaker 1: you're a tough one. Your career is so random, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you continue to work. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Those two hours that I watched One Tree Hill last

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Speaker 1: night were some.

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Speaker 2: Of the most beautiful. And I listened to all of

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Speaker 2: your album thirty one last night.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to her music though the other day

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know, it is so

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Speaker 1: Christian and boring, beyond that one.

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Speaker 2: Song, beyond I've Got the Boy, but also.

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Speaker 1: Because I just also listened to Morgan Wayne's album, which

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Speaker 1: is so good and good, like.

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Speaker 2: Literally I'm like crying from Morgan Wades.

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Speaker 1: And I'm kind of like Jana. I don't like she's

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Speaker 1: a great mom. She's a great give her a four

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Speaker 1: out of five, four out of five Lincoln Navigator, like

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Speaker 1: seven minute car rides to school as a mom.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie because you don't need this.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say three point seven thirteen feet Christmas

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Speaker 2: trees out of thirty one years a fe.

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Speaker 1: Open up an Excel spreadsheet into the map, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for your country, an amen, Amen, best best praise.

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Speaker 2: Be to my queen and producer Darby Masters, who not

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Speaker 2: only took my kids in on New Year's Eve when

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Speaker 2: I wanted to have a date for the first time

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Speaker 2: after my divorce, but has stood by me whether we're

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Speaker 2: on the couch drinking red wine or running errands at

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Speaker 2: Loew's in the Greater National.

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Speaker 1: I would also like to give a special good Christian

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Speaker 1: shout out to my supervising producer Abu Zafar, who personally

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Speaker 1: baptized my second son, Chrayson in his farm sank Thank

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Speaker 1: you about praise be to our executive producer Christina Everett

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Speaker 1: and all of the work that she does in his

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Speaker 1: name on this earth.

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Speaker 2: And of course you know we love music because the

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Speaker 2: Lord gave us music. So I want to thank to

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Speaker 2: my sister, my Queen, Stephen Lynn phillipsina host Jason Crawford

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Speaker 2: for doing the theme song.

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Speaker 1: I want to shout out to our former dearly departed

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Speaker 1: member of our Queendom prologue projects. Sometimes relationships don't work out,

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Speaker 1: but what happens on the other side in the next

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Speaker 1: chapter is even more beautiful, and we thank them for

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Speaker 1: being so strong and willing to evolve with us on

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Speaker 1: that journey that we are continuing to evolve towards.

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Speaker 2: I love seeing them at my kids, Jason Line and

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Speaker 2: Crayson soccer games.

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Speaker 1: They are so supportive. They are always there with both

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Speaker 1: beer and non alcoholic beer. I like to do a

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Speaker 1: mix of both half and half.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Shutterfly artists Eddie Blanks for saying yes,

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Speaker 2: I will actually leave my job in HR and follow

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Speaker 2: my passion that Christ gave me in painting and graphics

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Speaker 2: design period.

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Speaker 1: Please, if you would like to hear more of the

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Speaker 1: Word of God, go to patron Our Concepts, CBC the

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Speaker 1: Pod to hear another sermon every Friday for the rest

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Speaker 1: of your life. Amen.

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Speaker 2: Amen,