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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Here we are face to face at Bill's training camp,

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Speaker 2: day seven in the books.

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Speaker 3: Now a full.

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Speaker 2: Week of practices have been accomplished here as we are

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Speaker 2: completing our second week at least here on campus, because

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Speaker 2: Friday's practice will be in the evening the return of

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Speaker 2: the Blue and Red at high Mark Stadium in Orchard Park,

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Speaker 2: So we will take a little respite here from Saint

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Speaker 2: John Fisher after the show today, Steve will get a

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Speaker 2: respite this weekend entirely, you will not be joining us.

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Speaker 2: We'll have Maddie on the show with me tomorrow prior

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Speaker 2: to the evening practice. And before we dive into that's right,

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Speaker 2: before we dive into all things football, we want to

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Speaker 2: wish a happy ninety eighth birthday to one Marv Levy,

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame coach of the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Marv.

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Speaker 2: He's in Canton this weekend for the Hall of Fame ceremonies.

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Speaker 1: He's being recognized. He's the oldest living Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and they're gonna have a little something

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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so good for him. I saw some of the

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Speaker 2: guys are down there, saw Jim Thurman, James Lofton, Andre's there.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they're all be wishing Marv well.

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Speaker 2: It is like you say, ninety eight, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think it quite has the same punch as saying.

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Speaker 3: Do you realize Marv was born in nineteen twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Then you kind of that kind of puts it into scope.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen twenty five, dude, he was born before the Great Depression.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, you know, it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: He was born before the nineteen twenty seven Yankees.

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Speaker 4: What the heck?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a ninety eight the twenty seven Yankees.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a single one of them alive.

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Speaker 4: Is there?

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Speaker 3: No way, no way, But I mean that's nuts. And

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Speaker 3: like he was.

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Speaker 2: I remember when they had him at Wrigley the year's

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Speaker 2: there because he was there in nineteen thirty two, the

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Speaker 2: last time the Cubs were in the World Series.

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Speaker 4: They lost to the third baseline. Yeah, first baseline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was seven years old and he was he

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Speaker 2: watched Yankees Cubs nineteen thirty two World Series. And that

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Speaker 2: is a if I have my baseball history correct, that

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Speaker 2: is the series where Babe Ruth pointed to center field

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Speaker 2: wall at Rikley shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the called shot, if you will.

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Speaker 2: So he was there for that World Series. I'm kind

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Speaker 2: see in that World series.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you gotta do is just hang in.

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Speaker 3: There time travel? Is that what you're going to propose?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 1: Hang in there and you'll be that guy in another

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Speaker 1: what forty six years?

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Speaker 3: I don't have a prayer of seeing ninety eight? Are

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Speaker 3: you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't have a good enough family heart history to

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Speaker 1: I have to live my entire life before I retired

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Speaker 4: Even then, I wouldn't be there. Okay, you realize that

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Speaker 4: I have to live my whole life.

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Speaker 1: Through my marriage and my five kids again to get

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Speaker 4: And I still wouldn't be there.

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Speaker 3: You mean when you retired from football?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you'd sign up for that. Would

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that congratulations to Marv. We're headed the Bills

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm in if you if you're doing that.

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Speaker 4: If you're not invited, Oh damn, you're not invited.

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Speaker 3: I thought I could weasel my way in there.

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Speaker 1: The radio team doesn't get invited to the TV team stuff.

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Speaker 1: There's wow there, Wow, it's a little bit savages. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of elitism. You know, it's not elitism.

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Speaker 1: It might be you know, yeah, you'd be slumming. But

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Speaker 1: it's funny though. You guys have it?

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Speaker 4: Are you? Do you have a routine yet?

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Speaker 1: You haven't done the radio thing that long with the Bills, right,

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Speaker 1: do you have a routine on the road?

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Speaker 2: I mean I have a game day routine it obviously

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Speaker 1: But with the crew like Greg Harvey and you and Eric,

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Speaker 2: Not always no, no, A lot of times Eric doesn't

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Speaker 3: I'll have to feel that it's got to get a

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Speaker 2: But I do know that we will meet our radio

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Speaker 2: two sometimes in the evening, like if we don't go

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Speaker 3: That's that's probably the oldest thing that has happened.

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Speaker 1: Let me just let me that sounds all like romanticized,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you know, you're well. Back in the day,

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Speaker 1: we'd all meet down in the hotel bar and we

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Speaker 3: And if you say that you're embellishing, you're embellishing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's funny because we did that. Andrew Catialan comes

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to Chicago or whenever. So Catalan

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am aware of this. That's so then the

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Speaker 1: So then in Chicago, I reached out. I said, hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, yeah, and you went to Harry Carrey's, right.

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Speaker 1: He took us to Harry Carey's and he shows with

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's seen a few things, so he's got

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Speaker 4: He's We were laughing. We were laughing so hard.

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Speaker 5: It was one of the one of the one of

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Speaker 5: my most favorite stories that I got a chance to

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Speaker 3: Was Marv came back to the team to serve as GM.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, Ralph trusted him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said, look, I'm only doing this for

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Speaker 2: two years, but he felt an obligation to kind of

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Speaker 2: it was hard to recruit good coaching talent. Marv was

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Speaker 3: But I got the opportunity to.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to him one day and I had

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Speaker 2: found out it's the it's the Bear Bryant story.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember, Oh my gosh, Bear Bryant, Mike White.

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Speaker 3: Dick Vermild, Bill Walsh.

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Speaker 2: So there so Bill Walsh, Dick Vermial, Marv Levy, and

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Speaker 3: I thought it was Bobby Ross was in the Oh,

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Speaker 3: it was Bobby Ross. I'm like White, You're right, Bobby Ross.

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Speaker 2: Those four gentlemen were young up and coming coaches, some

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Speaker 2: even some pro coaches were there, and the headliner was

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Speaker 2: Bear Bryant. But his travel schedule got interrupted. He was

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Speaker 2: like a day late to the seminar. Now there was

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Speaker 2: They just went home. These four guys, Dick Vermeial, Bobby Ross,

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Speaker 2: And Bear Bryant says, well, if you guys are staying,

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Speaker 2: I'm staying too.

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Speaker 3: And they two hours he sung.

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Speaker 1: He hung in there with him, They went to dinner

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Speaker 4: And he was at at that time, Bear Bryant was

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Speaker 1: Right, I believe that he was at A and M

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Speaker 1: when you lived be ninety eight, you do that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff, right, great story.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was one of the most enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Ross and Marv Levy and Dick Formil Dick for meal,

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Speaker 4: Not bad, It's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Bobby Ross won a national Championship.

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Speaker 2: Marv obviously took the bill Bobby Ross and then Formil

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Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl and Bill Losh won four.

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Speaker 4: You don't know how good a coach Bobby Ross was.

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Speaker 1: He got the Chargers of the Super Bowl with Stan Humphrey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's how good a coach.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, happy birthday to Marv. And yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: can hook up with him, great in a couple of weeks, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Marv and his wife Franny and the whole family.

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Speaker 4: It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Coach McDermott opened his remarks this morning by wishing Marv

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Speaker 2: a happy birthday. They spare they share a nice relationship together.

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Speaker 2: They also have the William and Mary tie right with

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Speaker 2: you know Marv having coach there and Coach McDermott obviously

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Speaker 2: having played there as a collegian and coach gave us

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Speaker 2: a story this morning about the first time he had

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Speaker 2: met Marv. He was at the NFL Combine as a

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Speaker 2: young assistant coach with the Eagles and he's running on

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Speaker 2: the treadmill and all of a sudden, this guy steps

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Speaker 4: Next to him.

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Speaker 3: It's Marv Marv's on the elliptical in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 2: Uh, just going and going, and after they had both finished,

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Speaker 2: that's when Shawn introduced himself and he said, you know,

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Speaker 2: as you have come to expect from Mark, couldn't have

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Speaker 2: been nicer, couldn't have been more cordial, you know, And

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Speaker 2: and Sean mcdermot's the head coach of the Bills.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's kind of crazy. That's awesome, Marv.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the crew, a lot of my buddies

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was the best part of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely got a jam pack show for you today.

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Speaker 2: Then you were there in twenty fourteen. Man, the years

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Speaker 4: How are they going to blend when we're ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why I told you I'm not getting there,

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Speaker 4: Game twenty fourteen, twenty two thousand and nine and then

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh as we said, jam pack.

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Speaker 3: Show for you today.

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Speaker 2: Player wise, we're gonna be speaking to one day Kwon

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, the run front looked pretty good today.

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Speaker 1: He weighs three bills, and he's got good bend, good

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Speaker 4: And that's what they have a hard time with Puna.

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Speaker 2: In all likelihood, he will be the rotational guy coming

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Speaker 4: It's sizzles. It was a seed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he can really play. He's that guy really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: To me, that's the throw of the day.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking to Justin Shorter. He's these eight number eighteen

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Speaker 4: jersey the round pick. He is enormous. He's enormous.

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Speaker 3: He's a big dude.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe how big he's.

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Speaker 3: He's just long everywhere. Yeah, he's long.

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Speaker 1: Now, I look over and go, yeah, there he is,

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Speaker 4: They're huge.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who I was talking to today. I said,

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Speaker 1: I go they It was a decision, There's just no

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Speaker 2: Basically, him and Gabe Davis were the only guys you

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Speaker 3: That's number one. And then the second reason, Koomero.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why that name was way out of

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Speaker 3: There was no chance I was getting I couldn't I was.

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Speaker 4: It would be a two days before I'd remember that.

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Speaker 3: And that's not everybody obviously.

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Speaker 1: He's got a really strong set of legs that he

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Speaker 1: He's like poona Ford, He's a little underneath their ability

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Speaker 3: It was almost nothing to hit like ye you go

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Speaker 1: He's he almost looks as small as Hardy, although he's

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Speaker 2: Set when he when he's running, his legs look like

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Speaker 3: Otherwise they wouldn't be putt him out.

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Speaker 4: There for reps, right.

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Speaker 1: because that's I think Isabelle is a guy, is a

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Speaker 1: real strong candidate to do the punts or the kickoffs.

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Speaker 4: Probably the kickoffs.

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Speaker 1: Hardy Strong candidate to do punts because he's been to

447
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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl doing it. I'm that's one more thing

448
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Speaker 1: they've got to iron out whether it's gonna I don't

449
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be the same guy back there. I

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Speaker 1: think it'll be two different guys. But we'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they might split the duties. Yeah, it could happen,

452
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Speaker 1: could definitely happen. We'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll get a hint as to how it's

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Speaker 2: gonna look once we get to the preseason games. The

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Speaker 2: other thing to make note of from today, the CB

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Speaker 2: two battle is heating up. Cornerback two is one of

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Speaker 2: the main position battles here at training camp, along with

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Speaker 2: middle linebacker. We'll get to some of the details of

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Speaker 2: that in just a second, but cornerback too. For the

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Speaker 2: third straight day, Steve kayer elam working in with the

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Speaker 2: starting unit.

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Speaker 3: I think he might be making a move.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to see how it plays out here because

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Speaker 2: Dane Jackson is still getting time with the first team

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Speaker 2: as well, and they were tit for tat today because

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Speaker 2: late in practice the last series of teamwork. Let me

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Speaker 2: get to my sheet here so I can rattle it

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Speaker 2: off for you. Gabe Davis along the left sideline running

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Speaker 2: an out route. Josh tries to hit him there and

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Speaker 2: it's a little behind Gabe, so it bounces off his

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Speaker 2: left arm and Dane is behind him, kind of playing

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Speaker 2: goalside if you will, and it slips off Gabe's arm

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Speaker 2: right into Dan Jackson's arms for an interception.

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Speaker 3: He goes the other way.

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Speaker 2: Then two plays later, kyer Elam jumps the slant route

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Speaker 2: to Gabe Davis pick six the other way. So those

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Speaker 2: guys are going They're both turning in plays right now.

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Speaker 2: They are not making it easy on the coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: Both guys are making plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm really wondering too that because we've talked so much

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Speaker 1: about how things are different with Sean McDermott calling the defenses.

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Speaker 4: How is the benchiness.

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Speaker 1: We've seen a guy in a game jump off slant

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean the only.

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Speaker 3: Guy trade would do that on occasion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's one reason guys are able to do that

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Speaker 1: is because they're confident the ball is coming out fast,

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Speaker 1: which over the last three or four days, I think

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Speaker 1: the DB's are feeling that the ball's coming out fast

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Speaker 1: because they're getting they've gotten good pressure with those front guys.

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Speaker 4: And you've got to be in meetings when they're watching film.

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Speaker 1: Coaches got to be saying, guys, on this, when we

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Speaker 1: get this call and you see this, do this.

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Speaker 4: You gotta it's coming out.

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Speaker 3: Planning, drive, and guys are rolling.

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Speaker 1: The dice, and you know what if they're saying that

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it and they're jumping the routes, it's

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Speaker 1: it happens.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly how it happens.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, with Kye.

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Speaker 2: If there's one thing that Kaye is very well versed at,

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Speaker 2: it's planning and driving and jumping around because he's usually playing.

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Speaker 3: He was playing Man covered his whole time at Florida. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so he can do that, and if he.

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Speaker 2: Turns in plays like that, he's gonna it's gonna go

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Speaker 2: a long way to helping him get on the field

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Speaker 2: and potentially win the starting job.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to see how it all plays out.

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Speaker 1: And if he's that good at it, they'll call defenses

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Speaker 1: that play to that strength.

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Speaker 4: Let him do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, I will say during run fits, he had to

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Speaker 2: set the edge on one play and he went in

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Speaker 2: a little high, and because he went in a little high,

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Speaker 2: he lost leverage on the block and the run got

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Speaker 2: outside him. That's an area of the game that is

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Speaker 2: of the utmost importance to coach McDermott. Run support corners

519
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Speaker 2: are a critical component to the success of this defense

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Speaker 2: against the run the way it's constructed. So if you

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Speaker 2: are a corner here that plays on the outside or

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Speaker 2: the heck in the slot, anyway you see the tackler,

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Speaker 2: the Taron Johnson, you better be bringing the wood against

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Speaker 2: the run game because if you don't, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: be out there playing and simple like there are no

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Speaker 2: exceptions made there. You can you can make six interceptions

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Speaker 2: to see. And if you don't stop the run as

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Speaker 2: a run support corner in this defense, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you're getting on the field.

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Speaker 4: As much as you think you are right that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when the head coach of the defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: it happens a lot faster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the changes.

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Speaker 2: The middle linebacker competition. It was Terrell Bernard's opportunity today.

535
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Speaker 2: Spent most of the day running with the first team

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Speaker 2: at the mic Tyrel Dotson slid back to second unit.

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Speaker 2: I put the question mark up on Twitter, you know,

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Speaker 2: two days ago as the middle linebacker competition been reduced

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Speaker 2: to two and Sean McDermott was asked about it this morning.

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Speaker 2: He didn't say definitively it is, but he didn't deny

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Speaker 2: that it is either. So I think, just based on observation,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty apparent, at least to me, that Bayle inspector,

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Speaker 2: who should have rotated through the way it went the

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Speaker 2: first week of camp based on opportunities, has not the

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Speaker 2: last two days when he should have been up for

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Speaker 2: an opportunity. So I think the competition is pointing if

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Speaker 2: it's not there already to just two candidates now, those

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Speaker 2: being Tyrel Dotson and Terrell Bernard. And I will say this,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what prompted this, but I'm standing on

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Speaker 2: the sidelines over here, and you know how the defense

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Speaker 2: runs to the other the alternate field to do some

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Speaker 2: drills on their own.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, well, they're running off the field this way.

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Speaker 2: Tyrel Dotson sees me out of the corner of his

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Speaker 2: eye says, don't sleep on me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't sleep on you.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry TD, I got you because yeah, personally, I

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Speaker 2: think he's the guy who's gonna come out on top

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Speaker 2: of this competition, just by the way things are trending

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Speaker 2: right now. And the main reason why is I've been

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Speaker 2: impressed with his coverage ability. I think he has dramatically

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Speaker 2: improved his game in that area and I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be satisfactory in terms of what they need

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Speaker 2: from that position. And as I said the other day

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Speaker 2: on the show, I think he's demonstrated a level of

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Speaker 2: leadership as well throughout the roster that I think has

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Speaker 2: resonated with the coaching staff as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an alpha dude, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: And you and I have both been impressed by his

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Speaker 1: coverage reps that he's done that because we didn't see

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Speaker 1: that last year. And I'm granted he didn't get on

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Speaker 1: the field much and you know, we didn't see much

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Speaker 1: of his his practice and stuff. But that guy is

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Speaker 1: hanging in really well in coverage and it seems to us,

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Speaker 1: both of us feel it's been vastly improved. And when

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Speaker 1: you see a guy come back who's probably and I'm

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Speaker 1: just guessing, told in his off season, you got to

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Speaker 1: work on your coverage.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do this.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do that, and to see a guy come

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Speaker 1: back and obviously work at it and do something better.

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Speaker 1: Coaches love that. That's what player development's all about. You

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Speaker 1: got to get the guy motivated to change what he

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Speaker 1: has been and make himself better going forward.

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Speaker 4: And Dodson seems to be one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: So we'll look for more evidence as to what's going

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Speaker 2: on with the middle linebacker competition on Friday night when

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Speaker 2: the team is back at high Mark Stadium at practice.

589
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Speaker 2: And last bit of news from the field today, Gabe

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Speaker 2: Davis with another solid day of turning in not just

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Speaker 2: plays but big plays. The touchdown on the laser throw

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Speaker 2: from Josh that I mentioned, sliding reception for a touchdown

593
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Speaker 2: got behind the defense, made a couple of other big

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Speaker 2: plays in the passing game. I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: about Gabe is the day over day consistency that we're seeing.

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Speaker 2: I think if you had a criticism of Gabe from

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Speaker 2: last year, it was that yes, he would deliver some

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Speaker 2: big plays, but then the next.

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Speaker 3: Week they wouldn't be there.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't rely on him the same way you did

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Speaker 2: maybe the week before, Like, for example, you'd have the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh game in week five and then week six against

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a lot there.

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Speaker 2: If he can duplicate this day over day consistency that

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Speaker 2: we're seeing in training camp now, and you and I

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Speaker 2: have said, you know, he looks stronger through the bottom half.

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Speaker 2: He's added muscle to his legs and stuff looks faster.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he can represent that day over day

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Speaker 2: consistency when we get to the regular season, you gotta

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Speaker 2: have a hell of a receiving.

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Speaker 1: Corps this year, absolutely absolutely, and it you know, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But it's certainly a better camp than I remember him

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Speaker 1: having even in his rookie season when he came in.

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Speaker 1: I would go on, I think this is good at

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Speaker 1: training camps. We've seen him half.

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Speaker 2: He's really put it together, picked up steam this week especially,

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Speaker 2: it's been been lightening it up this week and kin

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Speaker 2: Kid is still doing kin Kid things. So we'll just

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Speaker 2: leave it at that because it's just come to be

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Speaker 2: expected quite frankly. Got to take a break here, but

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Speaker 2: when we come back one day, Kwan Jones will be

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Speaker 2: joining us defensive tackle for the Bills. If he's sitting

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Speaker 2: right in between Steve and I when we return here

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Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live presented by to a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 3: One Bill's Live Live at.

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Speaker 2: Bill's training camp Saint John Fisher University. Joining us now

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Speaker 2: fresh off the field is defensive tackle dey Kwan Jones,

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Speaker 2: Johnson City, New York native, one of the only New

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Speaker 2: York State natives on the Bills roster. I mentioned it

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Speaker 2: every time we have them on our visits. You don't

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Speaker 2: see a lot of guys from New York State playing

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Speaker 2: professional football.

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Speaker 4: Just say two twenty has to remind me every time that.

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Speaker 2: He's an all right, you gotta you gotta pump up

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Speaker 2: the New York guys.

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Speaker 4: Come.

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Speaker 1: I guess, so, I guess. So give. How's it going

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Speaker 1: for you so far?

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Speaker 6: Pretty good.

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Speaker 7: I'm enjoying my second year in the FIFTHLM and just

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Speaker 7: trying to go out there and get better each and

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Speaker 7: every day. And you know, I'm having a blathman going

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Speaker 7: to your ten. I'm I'm truly enjoying it. And yeah,

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Speaker 7: I love the you know, the dynamic that you know,

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Speaker 7: Sean brains in the room too.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just having fun.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Really cool thing that we found out about that happened

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Speaker 2: when Vaughn ran his Pass Rush summit.

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Speaker 3: He asked you to come out and be a presenter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so maybe just walk me through that, you know,

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Speaker 2: not only the ask, but then the subject matter that

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Speaker 2: he wanted you to cover. Because he said it, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've heard him say it. He thinks you're one of

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Speaker 2: the smartest guys in the entire d line room. So

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Speaker 2: obviously he thinks he revers your knowledge of the game.

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Speaker 2: So what was it that you know, you were entrusted

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Speaker 2: with presenting to everybody else in the league.

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Speaker 6: Basically it kind of cut me off guard.

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Speaker 7: But just go up there and really talk about, you know,

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Speaker 7: what I see and how I'm working with my guys

664
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 7: and outside and it's trying to make sure we're in

665
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 7: the repositions you know, throughout the game, and kind of

666
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 7: just talk about, you know, how having so much knowledge

667
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 7: can be kind of a double edged story at a.

668
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: Time lessing and a curse.

669
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, you kind of see too much of sometimes, but

670
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 7: you know, at the same time, being able to see

671
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 7: just enough to put yourself in a reposition and understanding

672
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 7: you know what you're what you're doing, and knowing that

673
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 7: you know, be every week young at the same five runs,

674
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 7: they're gonna hide it a little differently, and it's kind

675
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 7: of you know, breaking that down and really trying to

676
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 7: get down to the standing of the game. So it

677
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 7: was kind of cool go up there and talk to

678
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 7: all of them. Yeah, and you know, kind of give

679
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 7: him that knowledge.

680
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: So he came in last year, first year, and he

681
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: kind of he made it through and how frustrating was

682
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: to play as long as you did last year and

683
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: then at the very end that he had to sit.

684
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 7: Oh dude, the Cincinnati game that had to be with

685
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 7: pretty killing off. Yeah, man, because you know, I made

686
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 7: sure I took care of my body all year. I

687
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 7: was in the early late and make sure I was

688
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 7: on top of it.

689
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 6: And just to have that happen.

690
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 7: Under the last player of the mining game really just

691
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 7: put a batchase in my mouth. I'm ready to go

692
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 7: out there and you kind of just uh, you know,

693
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 7: prove a point.

694
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: Right the The addition of Puna Ford veteran in this league,

695
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: built a little bit differently than most defensive tackles.

696
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: He is he's like a fire hydrant man.

697
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: He is low to the ground, but he's probably gonna

698
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: be the guy, you know, rotating in for you at times.

699
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: So has been the cross talk there because I know

700
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 2: guys that have years in the league like to compare notes,

701
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: you know, about how to do it, how to win

702
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: up there on the line in those trenches. So how's

703
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: that dynamic been with him being a new guy in

704
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: the room.

705
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I know, y'all. You know, y'all say

706
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 7: I'm the quiet guy, but we might have a new one.

707
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 6: I mean, he might be quiet and me, but at

708
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 6: the same time, you know, he's a good guy.

709
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: Man.

710
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 7: We have we have a little talks, and I'm just

711
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 7: excited to you know, kind of get in there.

712
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: And work with him.

713
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: All.

714
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 7: We haven't really worked together on the field today. We

715
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 7: had a couple of uns today for the first time together.

716
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 7: So it's kind of, you know, cool to be out there.

717
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 7: We're on the Fame page for the most part, and

718
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 7: ran a couple of good games today and I'm I'm

719
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 7: happy to keep, you know, growing that relationship and that

720
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 7: familiarity with each other on the field, and I'm looking

721
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 7: forward to this year with you.

722
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: We sit around and all of us you know, who

723
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: watch the game, the team every day. Some fans come out,

724
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: they come out once and they go and we come out,

725
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: we're out of every day watch and give us an

726
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: idea that of worthy evolution is this rotation is because

727
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: you guys, I mean it's like a chemistry test and

728
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: they try you with these three guys, and then those

729
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: three guys with a different guy and you with another

730
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: guy in two the same guys. Give us an idea

731
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: of how that evolution's taking place and how it's coming along.

732
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the first day of camp, you know

733
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 7: we're kind of all off beating a little bit, and

734
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 7: you know, did by day you know me xthing in

735
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: the same page and trying to communicate a little better

736
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 7: what we're seeing and getting our game down and the

737
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 7: same thing again. Like today I was with Poona and

738
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 7: you know the deal was with Tim and you know,

739
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 7: we think got Jordan Phillips gonna come back in a

740
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 7: couple of weeks, so you know, get him in the

741
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 7: mix and kind of get that all them kinks kind

742
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 7: of worked out. But it's been fun to go out

743
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 7: there and kind of just you know, build that up

744
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 7: and you know, talk it out and see what guy

745
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 7: like to do and see what guys don't like what to do,

746
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 7: and hopeing we can keep on going on that, expanding

747
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 7: on that.

748
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: It's not like you guys were were not a good

749
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: run defense to begin with. I mean, maybe not elite,

750
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: but I think you were a very good run front

751
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: for the most part last season. And yet for fans

752
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: recency bias, the last thing they think of is the

753
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: Cincinnati game, which you obviously didn't get to play, and

754
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: they did run on you guys a good, good bit.

755
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: What what do you take sometimes even though he didn't play,

756
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: you know, because it's the last thing you remember from

757
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: last season. How do you parlay that from last season

758
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: into this season and say that stuff's not happening, not

759
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: in Week one, not in Week seventeen, and certainly not

760
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 2: in the postseason.

761
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it comes down to a mindset.

762
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 7: And you know today, you know, just echoing in the group,

763
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 7: just you know, be greedy up front and not just

764
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 7: being your gap, but you know between you know, the

765
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 7: A and b's and even the C gap and you

766
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 7: know fee to ce, you know, make sure we make

767
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 7: all them tackles. Let me be greedy, don't don't let

768
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 7: the linebackers come up there, yeah and make any tackle,

769
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like we should be able

770
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 7: to stop the run with us for up front, and

771
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 7: it's not go all turning camp to keep on echoing

772
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 7: that and doing that and the.

773
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 6: Ball bums outside.

774
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 7: We don't rally to it, but between the tackle to

775
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 7: make sure that we go out there and make every tackle.

776
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: YEP.

777
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: One of the things that happens is the guys around

778
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: here in the league. You're staying a long time and

779
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: like a guy like like Ed for instance, he's just

780
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: finished up. Now he's signed a big turn long term deal.

781
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's a couple of things. One, it's security,

782
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: but it's also a big pat on the back by

783
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: the Organs.

784
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: They say, Wow, you're a guy we want to keep around.

785
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: And how you How did you help Ed handle a

786
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: new contract? How has it changed him and his outlook?

787
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 4: The way you do?

788
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: I know, you try and make it so nothing changes

789
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: the way you are, but it does say something about

790
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: your career when you signed that second content.

791
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think you know early on he

792
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 7: was kind of frustrated a little bit just in practice.

793
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 7: I mean, that weight of that contract can go out

794
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 7: there and perform, and you know, I think he realized

795
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 7: now that you know, you've been turning it up the

796
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 7: last couple of days and kind of just you know,

797
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 7: settle down, don't go out there and reach four. It's

798
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 7: gonna come to you. You've been doing it for you

799
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 7: know how many he's been in the league, And I

800
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 7: mean's football at end of the day. You know, I

801
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 7: think sometimes we can go at certain moments or gets

802
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 7: to ahead and kind of takes it out of a game.

803
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 7: But I think he sold down right now and just

804
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 7: get back into groove of things. And he's been flying,

805
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 7: flying around today. And today he did a hell of

806
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 7: a job and you know, the wrong game in pass game,

807
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 7: he was all over to play. So I think he's

808
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 7: back in his groove and I can't wait to see

809
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 7: what he did this year.

810
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: Dekawine, you've got coach McDermott calling the plays now, and

811
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: you know, I know coach Frasier, I mean did a

812
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: fantastic job when he was here. I mean they had

813
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: the number one defense in Elite here in twenty twenty one.

814
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: But how how have you sensed that things could change

815
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of because I mean coach Fraser,

816
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: he was a big proponent of I trust my guys.

817
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: We're just gonna line up and play. We're not gonna

818
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: get crazy exotic, we're not gonna try to fool you

819
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: with scheme necessarily, we're lining up in nickel and let's go. Yeah,

820
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: Like now with coach McDermott, do you get the sense

821
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: that maybe there will be a few tweaks here and

822
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: there to kind of throw an imposing offense off, or

823
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: maybe you and somebody up up front might be able

824
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: to play a couple more games on a you know,

825
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: a long down and distance pass down.

826
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 6: I think you're doing a great job.

827
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 7: I think the you know, you see a little difference

828
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: here and there from him of coach Fraser. I think

829
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 7: the one thing I think it's pretty cool. You know,

830
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 7: he's in there, he's teached in the game of football,

831
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 7: and he's you know, explaining why he's doing stuff and

832
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 7: why we're doing certain calls. And I think that's helping

833
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 7: some guys understand that. And so I love his approach to.

834
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 6: I love how he's handled on that and.

835
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 7: Really taking the time, you know, even ten to fifteen

836
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 7: minutes a day in the meeting and we're all in

837
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 7: there just really teach.

838
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 6: The fundamental of the football.

839
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 7: And while he's doing something so that we all when

840
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 7: we've go out in the field, whatever situation we're in,

841
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 7: we know why we're doing it and so you know,

842
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 7: know one what to expect Like that, I think it's

843
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 7: going to pay off in the long one.

844
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: We're talking all you guys coming through and we're asking

845
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. This is a different year. On the

846
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: outside looking in at this team. It's different than last year.

847
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: You were everybody's super Bowl favorite last year and now

848
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: this year. Maybe it is because of the Cincinnati game.

849
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: What everybody's like, Man, maybe they're tired of picking you.

850
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 8: Right.

851
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: What's the conversation like in the locker room about stuff

852
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: like that.

853
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 7: I don't I don't think we've had a competition about it.

854
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 7: I don't think people care about it. I really don't

855
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: care about it. I mean, if they don't, you know,

856
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 7: they want to pick someone out, they don't want to

857
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 7: they want to come out sure like whatever all we

858
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 7: can do is come here and work every day, no

859
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 7: one knowing what our end goal is at the end

860
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 7: of the day, and trying to get there and come

861
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 7: here and do the work, you know, work our asses

862
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 7: off and try to get back to the promise line.

863
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: Oh Cyrus Torrence is a new guy up front on

864
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 2: the other side of the line from you. Uh, He's

865
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: had some opportunities in there.

866
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: With the ones.

867
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: So is he a young guy that is willing to

868
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: ask people like you questions like hey, why did you

869
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: play me that way on a given play? Because I'm

870
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: thinking he's trying to be a sponge, you know, And

871
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: as much as he's asking his own old alignment stuff,

872
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: does he come across the line sometimes or in passing

873
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: or in the cafeteria anywhere and say, Hey, want to

874
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: help me out with this?

875
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: What are you thinking on this?

876
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: Or what?

877
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 6: Yeah?

878
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: You know, we pick your brain at all.

879
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 6: Yeah we have.

880
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 7: We haven't had those talks at all, but you know

881
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 7: I'm always I'm always here for that. And you know,

882
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 7: me and Mitch we talk all the time after practice,

883
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 7: close practice of of just what he you know, what

884
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 7: what does he see? You know worth what I'm doing

885
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 7: and think that we're you know bates.

886
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: Uh.

887
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 6: You know, I always love talking to on line just

888
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 6: because I love to see you know, what their mindset

889
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 6: is and you know how I can sweak what I'm doing.

890
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 7: And but when that time comes wrong he did that question,

891
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 7: I'm here to ask what, I'm gonna help him out.

892
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 7: But uh, you know, definitely during the season, if I

893
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 7: whatever I see I can help him out, I'm gonna

894
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 7: do that.

895
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: I know him know so perfect.

896
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the offensive line of the Bills.

897
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: They've kind of refurbished it down inside. Both of these

898
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: guards give us an idea of what you see.

899
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 7: Ah, I mean, listen, I'll tell you what them boys

900
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 7: have been coming out and they've been competing at a

901
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 7: high level every day and start training camp and U

902
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 7: you know, we talked about the d line, the difference

903
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 7: of you know, from last year this year, just their

904
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 7: their mindsetting, their physicality up front, and how they're coming

905
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 7: off the ball. You know, we love it and we

906
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 7: we just hope that it continues to grow. And you know,

907
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 7: they're you know, they're building their chemistry over there too.

908
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 7: They're mixing the match and so hopefully when they when

909
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 7: they get in sync and get locked in that we're

910
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 7: gonna have a you know, a special group up front.

911
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Last one for me, you've got a middle linebacker. The

912
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: competition going on behind you, and you know there's different

913
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: voices that you're hearing in the huddle pre snap how

914
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: are you kind of adjusting to that or have those

915
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: guys done a good job of kind of keeping the

916
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: communication relatively the same.

917
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think they're I think they're all

918
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 7: doing a you know, a heck of a job, you know,

919
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 7: community and now I really do and I think.

920
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 6: The competition over it is pretty fierce.

921
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: You know.

922
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: I love, you know, all three of them, and I

923
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 7: think they're you know, they're balling their butts off, and

924
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 7: you know, I just can't wait to see, uh, you know,

925
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 7: who's gonna be in there week one. But hats off

926
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 7: to them guys. They're doing the heck of a job

927
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 7: all running camp and you know, getting us lined up

928
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 7: on fun, making all the calls. So you know, it's

929
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 7: a very fun and entertaining battle. And I come with

930
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 7: se what happens day one? Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it.

931
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 7: Stay one piece, huh, thank you?

932
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 6: Good luck?

933
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: All right, that's Daikwon Jones joining us here on One

934
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

935
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: We'll take a break, be back with more. Stay tune.

936
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: Mark your calendars because Kids Day is back Saturday, August twelfth.

937
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: The Bills will welcome to the Indianapolis Colts for their

938
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: lone home preseason matchup at one pm. Kid's Day presented

939
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: by Fisher Price, is the perfect time to enjoy a

940
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: Bill's game with the whole family. Starting at nine in

941
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: the bus and Limo a Lott at high Mark Stadium.

942
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: Festivities kickoff with a Junior Tailgate starting at nine, which

943
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: we'll have games, activities, and giveaways along with a dance

944
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: party hosted by none other than d J.

945
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: Milk.

946
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Be sure to check it out if you have some

947
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: kiddos want to check out a preseason Bill's game. You

948
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: know the weather's gonna be good, so have some fun

949
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: out there.

950
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

951
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: One thing that.

952
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: We wanted to mention, there are some reports out there

953
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: that Spencer Brown was struggling to get off the field today,

954
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: clearly in some measure of discomfort, according to reports. I

955
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: did not see that myself. I don't know if you

956
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: saw anything. My focus was elsewhere. So we'll have to

957
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: wait and see.

958
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: You finished practice.

959
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got through the whole practice session, but who knows.

960
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: Maybe something happened on the last couple of plays. So

961
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: we'll see if we can find out more about that

962
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: tomorrow at the evening practice. Hopefully it's nothing serious, and

963
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: you know you just ice up, get some massage work done.

964
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: You're good.

965
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: So we'll have to keep an eye on that in

966
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: the coming days to see what is afoot if anything

967
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: is there any Is there anything that popped up that

968
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: we haven't discussed for you, Steve, that you observed out

969
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: there on the practice field too.

970
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: No, I just the pace has been great.

971
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: I was mentioning it to DT today about how different

972
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: it is that these guys, aren't. You know, don't they

973
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: don't make these guys go to practice the day and

974
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: pads prayer. I'm not one of those old guys who's

975
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: like back in my day it was better because it

976
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: was tougher. And No, they practice at a pace it's

977
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: fast every day. And in decades past, when they were

978
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: going to a day's and pads practice after practice after

979
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: practice after practice, by the fifth day of padded practice

980
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: to a day's, guys are shot. I mean they come

981
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: out and they lean on each other. They're not even

982
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: hitting and the pace of practice is at snail's pace.

983
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: Maybe the receivers are running, the DB's are running a

984
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: little bit, but they're not sprinting. These guys are on edge,

985
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: running hard all the time. And I think it speaks

986
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: to where the game is now. We talk about the

987
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: rosters and the running back situation, the marketplace there and

988
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the money positions with corner and pass rusher and left

989
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: tackle quarterback. I get all that, but that's also where

990
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: the pace of the game is and where you know,

991
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: the sports science is at this point.

992
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: They practice fast.

993
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: Even every guy down the raw, I mean, like the

994
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: thirteenth wide receiver and the nineteenth dB are out there

995
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: just sprinting around trying to cover.

996
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: It's really cool to see.

997
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: For me, I've watched this game very closely since I

998
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: came in in nineteen eighty five, and it continues to

999
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: be distilled to a higher and hire that's why. That's

1000
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: why this whole country's crazy for it. It gets it's better.

1001
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 3: It translates that very well to television two.

1002
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: It really has a lot better. It's star driven. Every

1003
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: team's got some guys you gotta watch play. The competition

1004
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: is at least it's fierce, and they they these guys

1005
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: forget about this clothes lining guys and the old hit

1006
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: They play for keeps and man oh man, they go

1007
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: hard and they do it even at practice, even when

1008
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: guys aren't hit the ground it is fast, and I

1009
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: kind of forget, you know, every time you come back

1010
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: to training camp, you get out here and there's a

1011
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that's always the same, and it's like,

1012
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's like rope memory. But man, oh man,

1013
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: the size and speed these guys have, it's compelling. And

1014
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: that's why this is why this game is isn't going

1015
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: anywhere for a long time.

1016
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 3: Right.

1017
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: I thought that, you know, James Cook popped up today

1018
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: in the passing game a little bit.

1019
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: I was encouraged to see that.

1020
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: I think we all expect that to be an element

1021
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: of the playing time that he does get this season,

1022
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: knowing how prolific he was as a receiver, even in

1023
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: college at Georgia, where the offensive coordinator there was now

1024
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: the OC in Baltimore, Todd Monkin, would line him up

1025
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: outside the numbers. I mean it's not like they just

1026
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: threw to them on swing passes out of the backfield

1027
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: or flat routes.

1028
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: I mean they were running him down the field. I

1029
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: remember one.

1030
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: Play they had the big game against Tennessee last or

1031
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: not last year or two years ago, two years ago,

1032
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: had a big game against Tennessee, and he's outside the

1033
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: numbers and he's got a linebacker out there with him,

1034
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: wins on the route thirty yard touchdown. Like now, the

1035
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: defense is in the NFL a little more sophisticated than that.

1036
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: They know what James Cook is capable of. They're probably

1037
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: going to put a safety on him out at least,

1038
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: if not a corner, because the guy runs four to

1039
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: four to two and he runs routes like.

1040
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: He knows how to run routes.

1041
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 4: He's a receiver.

1042
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: So I'm really interested to see all the things that

1043
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey is going to be able to throw at

1044
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: opposing defenses, knowing that they're not all going to be

1045
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: good answers for opposing defensive coordinators. They're going to have

1046
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: to come up with some kind of thing in the lab,

1047
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: and it still might not be the best answer in

1048
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: stopping the Bills, because now with Kincaid and now with

1049
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: Cook as a more dynamic running back than Devin Singletary was,

1050
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: he just is. He's more athletically dynamic. Kincaid, who I mean,

1051
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: we saw it four times today.

1052
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: They're in the red zone.

1053
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: Josh doesn't have an answer outside bing inside, it goes

1054
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: and there's Kincaid, there's eight yards and we line up again.

1055
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: One of the things I saw too today was in

1056
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: one of those places, Dawson Knox takes a hand off.

1057
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: I was like, did they just hand that ball to him?

1058
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: He did, He took a hand off from Josh and

1059
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: I was telling people around him, we were talking about

1060
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: guys doing virstat stuff. I go, that's where it's headed.

1061
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna have four wides and a tight end and

1062
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: a running back or whatever. Who the five eligible people are.

1063
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: They're all gonna be interchangeable. They're gonna be different sizes,

1064
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: different seats, speeds, different skill sets, but they're all gonna

1065
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: be out there and they're gonna be able to line

1066
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: up in the backfield and then full back, half back,

1067
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: tight end, wing back, slot, receiver, X receiver, boundary or

1068
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: to the field.

1069
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: And that's where it's headed.

1070
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Where you're gonna have guys like that who can line

1071
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: up anywhere, and maybe you'll substitute less and force the

1072
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: defense and just every time you're gonna get the matchup

1073
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: you want because you've got those five guys. This to

1074
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: me seems like an at least an experiment for the

1075
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: Bill's offense with Ken Dorsey. Maybe they're gonna try and

1076
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: get close to that when you're handing the ball to

1077
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: a six five, two and fifty pounds tight end. He's

1078
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: and he's barreling off the edge to the defense. It's

1079
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: a different kind of problem, yeah, than maybe what you

1080
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: were expecting with three wides or four wides on the field.

1081
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm just so interested to see how diverse this offense

1082
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: is going to get this year with all the weapons

1083
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: they have at their disposal. Break time for us here,

1084
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: but when we come back second hour of the show,

1085
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: we will be joined at some point by NFL network

1086
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: analyst and former NFL head coach Steve Mariucci joining the show.

1087
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: I think this will be his first time on this

1088
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: program if I remember right.

1089
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: So it be good to catch up with mooch.

1090
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: Maybe as he'll slide in and we'll yeah, we'll catch

1091
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: up with him. See what his thoughts are on Bill's

1092
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: training camp. He was here today, kind of took it

1093
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: all in. See what he thinks about the AFC as well.

1094
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: When we return here on One Bill's Live presented by

1095
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Fly to Help, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1096
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Help.

1097
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: All right, here, we are our number two Bills training

1098
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: camp Saint John Fisher on another day that started rainey

1099
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: but turned sunny by the time the players hit the

1100
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: practice field, and then the cloud cover moved.

1101
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: On out of here, and actually it turned out to

1102
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: be a pretty dark night.

1103
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 4: It's wonderful form.

1104
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, a full week of practices are now

1105
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: in the books. And we finished last hour talking about

1106
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: James Cook some.

1107
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: Run fit work today.

1108
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: And I don't know what about you, Steve, but I

1109
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: still marvel at how big Latavious Murray is. I'm not

1110
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: used to seeing six foot three running backs. I realize

1111
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson was that big, but I don't think I

1112
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: ever saw him at field level. Oatavious Murray is a

1113
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: big dude, and just seeing him at the running back position,

1114
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: it just looks so foreign to me.

1115
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's.

1116
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: He's tall, thick, Yes, he's big. He's as big a

1117
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: back as the Bills have had since mm hmmm Antoine Smith.

1118
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: Maybe, yes, Antoine was probably thicker than him. But yes,

1119
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 2: I would say it's in a minute, that's probably the guy.

1120
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: They're not, probably the last guy. They're not there, they

1121
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: haven't had that's twenty five years ago.

1122
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so they've got a really nice running back stable.

1123
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: I really like it.

1124
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: James Cook does to me seem to be like the

1125
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: lead dog right now, No pun intended.

1126
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: He's was he a Georgia Kidd? Who's this James Cook? Yes? Yeah,

1127
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 4: I did get that right. He's lead dog. So I

1128
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 4: see what you did there, you go, thank you. I

1129
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: had to retrace my sorry. You have to work for it.

1130
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: You got to keep up with that. Okay.

1131
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: So but I like I like Latavius Murray and I

1132
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: just yeah, always guys, Amien Harris, all of them. So

1133
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to see him, and the offensive line

1134
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: seems bigger and physical. I just think maybe they got

1135
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: a chance to be more efficient in the run game,

1136
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: particularly you know.

1137
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: With the big guy.

1138
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: I do find the right guard competition interesting. We've seen

1139
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: Osiris Torrance getting work with the starters each of the

1140
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: last four days, but it hasn't been exclusive. They're still

1141
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: working Baits in there, the incumbent, So we'll have to

1142
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: see where that goes as we get into the preseason.

1143
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: Because I think we both agree that this is an

1144
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: offensive staff that wants to be bigger and stronger between

1145
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: the tackles, which should lead to more success moving defenders

1146
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: off the line of scrimmage and clearing running lanes for

1147
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: the backs. You also have bigger backs here too, as

1148
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: we mentioned, so Osiris Torrance would represent a move in

1149
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: that direction because he's three hundred.

1150
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: And twenty five pounds. The thing that's amazing to.

1151
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: Me is he carries it well, you know what I mean, Like,

1152
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: he's not a sloppy looking now. He looks he's kind

1153
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: of put together really well, that's not always the case.

1154
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: With big guys like that.

1155
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: Well, well, it's interesting too because you get a guy

1156
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: that big, and you always, particularly in this day and age,

1157
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: you get kind of this habit of placing them in

1158
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: a different position.

1159
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1160
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: You feel like, oh, he looks like an outside linebacker

1161
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: kind of guy. He looks like an inside linebacker, right,

1162
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: looks like a kind of looks tight endish, you know

1163
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I mean, you never see a guy

1164
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: it's like an Adrian Peterson type guy. You know, he

1165
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: looks like he plays a different position than running back,

1166
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: but he does. You know, he plays it and he

1167
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: plays it well. I think it'll be interesting to see

1168
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: when it all rolls up together, what the split's going

1169
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: to be for the backfield and who's gonna take what

1170
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: percentage of snaps and what kind of plays we're gonna

1171
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: see him run because we still don't have any idea

1172
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: about that, right.

1173
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: I think the general consensus though his Cook is going

1174
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: to be the main guy coming out of the backfield,

1175
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: and because of his versatility number one and his game

1176
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: breaking ability number two.

1177
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: I mean the guy let's not for yet.

1178
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he averaged five point seven yards the Camry

1179
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: last year in limited work. I realized the sample size

1180
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: wasn't gigantic, but it took By the end of the year,

1181
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: what did you have one hundred and eighty touches? I

1182
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: think I want to say he was close to that.

1183
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: That's a full load, and Ken Dorsey is pretty much

1184
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: confirmed that based on some of his comments last week

1185
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: when he met the media, that he's in every down

1186
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: feature tied back. So I think he's going to get

1187
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: the lion's share of the load.

1188
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: I could see.

1189
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: You know, when we think about what would they do

1190
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: and why would they make a change if it wasn't

1191
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: for an injury or something like that, think about this, though.

1192
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: You get Cook and he's in there and he's absolutely

1193
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: crushing people, and you get to a team where there's

1194
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: a matchup, and all of a sudden, so Cook takes

1195
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: a series offer, comes out for a blow and Murray

1196
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: gets in there and all of a sudden you find

1197
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: something because the other team is not expecting to see him,

1198
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: and you just start hammering him and Sean McDermott over

1199
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: there going you know what, keep him in let's go,

1200
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, kind of that hot hand theory. Yes, I

1201
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: could see that happening because they are I mean, it's striking,

1202
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: it's striking.

1203
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: How big he is?

1204
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: Uh?

1205
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 3: Please to have now joining us?

1206
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: Come on, sit in the middle here.

1207
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna slide in the middle here. Uh. We

1208
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 3: don't call this the Collins where it slide. We call

1209
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: this the mooch scooch. That's what we're doing here.

1210
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: Uh So, so here we go, coach, pop that on

1211
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: and we'll get you rolling here.

1212
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, doing well, doing well? Good to see you here.

1213
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: How's uh?

1214
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 2: I was camp today for you? It was a little

1215
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: threatening with the weather, but it.

1216
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 9: Cleared up so you stayed dry before it and it

1217
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 9: was raining like crazy, and I didn't have an umbreller

1218
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 9: or anything, so I thought wouldn't That's right?

1219
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't rain in California doesn't.

1220
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 9: So unfortunately, and so and then we're doing that, we're

1221
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 9: doing the show like this, and then the practice is

1222
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 9: behind it, and I want I want to turn around

1223
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 9: and watch the whole product, right and and uh so

1224
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 9: you don't get to see as much as you'd love to.

1225
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 9: But it was I thought it was a good practice.

1226
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 9: Did you guys stay here the whole time or.

1227
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: Did you watch?

1228
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're down on the field.

1229
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 4: We don't start until one, So the practice was really

1230
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 4: over good.

1231
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 10: A lot of red zone work today, yes, yes, yes,

1232
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 10: we asked Josh about that, you know, situational football, you know,

1233
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 10: and so, but he said, I threw a lot of

1234
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 10: interceptions a year ago and a lot in the red zone.

1235
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 9: So he said, maybe this is what we're doing to

1236
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 9: try to fix some things.

1237
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 4: Maybe they get better. May should practice it.

1238
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 9: Huh, they're practicing it. So there was a lot of

1239
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 9: a lot of work. Even individual routes were against air

1240
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 9: were red zone.

1241
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 4: Through Yeah, how mu should be travel? Go ahead.

1242
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, like, you know, you mentioned

1243
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: the turnovers, and you know this was a thirteen and

1244
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: three football team that was second in the league in

1245
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: turnovers with twenty seven and second in the league, and

1246
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: drop passes with thirty two.

1247
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were still thirteen and three.

1248
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you cut both of those categories scoring, they

1249
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: could trim that down.

1250
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look how good they can be. Where

1251
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: have you you've been trying on? Where have you been?

1252
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 9: I've only this is my second camp. I went to

1253
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 9: Kansas City Chiefs camp. They're at a university, Missouri Western.

1254
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 9: You know, it's a situation like this. I think Andy

1255
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 9: said they're going to stay there for thirty days.

1256
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 4: For crying out loud, who wants to be in camp?

1257
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 4: Thirty days? Wow? But the bills are sixteen days. Yeah.

1258
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 4: Did you like going away?

1259
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: It has its advantages? And I was telling him, you

1260
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: know why, I think it's better for a veteran team,

1261
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: if you got veterans like that. I was on a

1262
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: veteran team. Yeah, the veteran guys need to go away

1263
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: to camp because if they stay at home and they're

1264
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: living in that they got kids, they got garbage to

1265
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: take out, they got dishes to put in the dishwash,

1266
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: they're putting the kids to bed, it's bath time.

1267
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: They got you know what I mean.

1268
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: Spending that time with their team.

1269
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's different.

1270
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: I think it's more valuable for veteran guys than it

1271
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: is even for the young guys to go away.

1272
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 9: That's interesting take you know. They I think they get

1273
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 9: a little more time off now too. They like, yesterday's

1274
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 9: completely off. Yes, So if you're in a different state, man,

1275
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 9: what are you gonna do?

1276
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: Uh?

1277
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: Do you do? You try a lot of them like

1278
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: to travel home.

1279
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 9: Most of them are single, right, yeah, but uh, you know,

1280
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 9: there's everybody has a nice facility now that they could

1281
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 9: probably just stay there if they wanted to. But some

1282
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 9: old school coaches like to say, hey, let's get away

1283
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 9: and bond a little bit and eliminate some of that

1284
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 9: distractions that you're.

1285
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to the Chiefs and the Bills do it.

1286
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue with the results. Really, yeah they do.

1287
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 3: Well, what what what did you like doing as a coach? Like,

1288
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: what did you subscribe to?

1289
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 9: You?

1290
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: Did you kind of like that going away thing? Do

1291
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: you mean?

1292
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: You?

1293
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 9: You know when when when I was coaching in Green Bay,

1294
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 9: we stayed there right in uh St. Norbert's College, which

1295
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 9: is a couple of miles away from the facility, So

1296
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 9: we even had our meetings over there in in the stadium.

1297
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: Okay.

1298
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 9: When I was with the Niners, we went away to Rockland,

1299
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 9: which was a couple hour drive away, which was which

1300
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 9: was interesting, you know, but days off, boy, if gentlemen

1301
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 9: start your engines, they all went. You know, when I

1302
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 9: was in Detroit, we just stayed right there at the facility.

1303
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 9: So you know, there's there's pros and cons about each one.

1304
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 9: But the trick is just get the work done, try

1305
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 9: to stay healthy, you know, going away and then having

1306
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 9: to transport all your computer stuff, all your weights.

1307
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, just pack it overnight bag packed a semi trailers,

1308
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: big move.

1309
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 9: It's like the Taylor Swift concerts.

1310
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: Like it's like fifty.

1311
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: Travel And you might one of the things about you know,

1312
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: everybody notices now, particularly old guys like us like me.

1313
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: We you know, you go out it used to be

1314
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: and I come in. We're in West Texas with the oilers,

1315
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: and you know, there's two week, two solid weeks of

1316
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: pads in the morning, pads in the afternoon, pads in

1317
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: the morning, pads and the afternoon pads in the morning,

1318
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: pads in the afternoon.

1319
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 4: By the fifth day.

1320
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: By the fifth day, the guy they're like this, and

1321
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: they're leaving, they're like this, you know. And what I

1322
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: notice now in one of the positives I noticed we

1323
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: were just talking about this on the show. From the

1324
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: first practice now in week six or day seven of.

1325
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: The of the of the.

1326
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: Camp, the pace practices is off the charts. They go

1327
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: fast all the time because they're fresh. I mean, one

1328
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: practice the day. These guys work out harder than they

1329
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: in the off season, some of them, than they practice here.

1330
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: So the pace of practice seems to me to be

1331
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: really fast all the time, and I'm sure it is

1332
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: the same at other teams too. It should be you

1333
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: give back the physical punishment, but you do take in

1334
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: the speed and the pace of practice that the raises

1335
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: because of the physical punishment isn't there.

1336
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 9: And on many levels, it's just better this way, right,

1337
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 9: And we're trying to keep players healthy, and we're trying

1338
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 9: to practice fresh, we're trying to get something done without

1339
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 9: overworking them. Maybe have more meetings and walkthroughs, and so

1340
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 9: it's the smart thing to do. Some teams did it

1341
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 9: that way and and I was part of that too

1342
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 9: when I was a young assistant coach.

1343
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: Pads after pads after pretty.

1344
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 9: Soon you're just you're just beating them down. It was

1345
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 9: a it was a matter of survival, right and uh

1346
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 9: and then the concept there, I guess was, hey, you know,

1347
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 9: we're just gonna we're gonna just condition like crazy and

1348
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 9: if you can survive this, they can do anything, right

1349
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 9: and uh, you know it. It worked, but we learned

1350
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 9: now that we have fewer injuries, uh, fewer concussions, fewer

1351
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 9: a cls doing it this way. So hey, let's have

1352
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 9: some some fresh teams that play and participate and increase

1353
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 9: the longevity of these players careers.

1354
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: And even better, old players like me. And you can

1355
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: go out and complain about how easy they've got it is.

1356
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 4: Creasy. Yeah, I know.

1357
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 9: It's like it's like these off season we used to

1358
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 9: bring our quarterbacks and in March.

1359
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 4: In March, these guys are in Tahiti. They're just messing

1360
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: around and we used to be in They don't care

1361
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 4: like we care. Care.

1362
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: I want to ask you this, coach, because if I

1363
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: if memory serves me, you did as a head coach

1364
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: call plays right when you were head coaching. Yeah, so

1365
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: that's what Sean McDermott is undertaking here as the DC

1366
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: as well.

1367
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: Wearing both those hats.

1368
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: What do you feel is the biggest challenge when you

1369
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: take that on in addition to being a HC.

1370
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 9: I'll tell you it's it's a thing. Okay, Mike McCarthy's

1371
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 9: doing it now. He called forever and then he gave

1372
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 9: it up to Kellen Moore and now he's taking it back.

1373
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 9: And that adds a lot of hours to your preparation

1374
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 9: because it's a whole new role that you that you

1375
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 9: have now. The head coach always had veto power and

1376
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 9: he would listen in and suggest, you know, that kind

1377
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 9: of thing. But with with Sean McDermott, you know, he's

1378
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 9: been around a lot of good defensive coordinators and in

1379
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 9: defensive play callers.

1380
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: But it for.

1381
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,959
Speaker 9: Me personally, I really really wanted to have another guy

1382
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 9: called the plays. I loved it when I was a

1383
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 9: coordinator in college. I loved it my first year in

1384
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 9: San Francisco, all that kind of thing. But you know what,

1385
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 9: I got sidetracked too much. I'm yelling at officials and

1386
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 9: I'm doing.

1387
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: This and that it's called to play.

1388
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 9: Moch I got timeout because I'm yelling to him, and

1389
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 9: so I want a guy that's all he focuses on

1390
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 9: his is the offense, and preferably up in the box

1391
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 9: where it's quiet, right, because it's chaotic down there. But

1392
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 9: you know, here, here, here comes Shawn. Now he's going

1393
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 9: to add that to his repertoire of obligations, and I'm

1394
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 9: sure he'll be good at it, but he's gonna have

1395
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 9: to kind of separate himself a little bit from the

1396
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 9: offense and challenges and timeouts and some of those things

1397
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 9: that he's responsible for. In a complete game, when the

1398
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 9: offense has the ball, he might be sitting on the

1399
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 9: bench with his line right.

1400
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying too one of the guys

1401
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: that I can't remember the coach it was, but they

1402
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: were asking him, why you know you don't call? Are

1403
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: you going to step in a call the places he's listen,

1404
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to, but listen if I'm calling the defensive

1405
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: plays or the offensive plays, and I got to talk

1406
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 1: to my quarterback or my middle linebacker, I got my.

1407
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: Back to the field, you know, I got to go

1408
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: talk to the guy.

1409
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: And I can't be the head coach and you it's

1410
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: a tough call to make, and plus the preparation putting

1411
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: together a play call sheet on either.

1412
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: Side of the ball.

1413
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 9: It's consuming, really time consuming.

1414
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 4: You know what.

1415
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 9: Let me give you a tidbit here. I want to

1416
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 9: go way back. Jerry Glanville, Sure, huh.

1417
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 4: I know. Jerry's close. Jerry's a friend of mine.

1418
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 9: He coached, so when he when he coached the Atlanta Felcons,

1419
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 9: he called the offense, Steve, he called the defense.

1420
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 4: And he called the special team.

1421
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 9: He called everything. And now they were running shoot a

1422
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 9: little different, a little more simple, you know. And then

1423
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 9: he was always a defensive guy. He called everything.

1424
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: It's like the assistants coaches, we just eat a hot

1425
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 4: dog on the sidelines.

1426
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 3: Wow.

1427
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 4: He was doing everything, and he did in cowboy boots

1428
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: and a slicker and he left tickets for Elvis.

1429
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: That's right, right, Yeah, that was pretty special stuff.

1430
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about Ken Dorsey because this year

1431
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: two now, and I think even though this was a

1432
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: very prolific offense in terms of points scoring, red zone,

1433
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: touchdown efficiency number one and third down conversions last year,

1434
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: there were times in the second half of the season

1435
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: where the offense looked like a heavy lift. At times,

1436
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't coming as easy to them as it had

1437
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: in the first half of the season. There were several

1438
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: reasons for that. But now, and I know you probably

1439
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: didn't get a great look at Kincaid today, but he's

1440
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: been the story of Camp. He is going to provide

1441
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: easy button answers in the passing game for Josh, much

1442
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 2: the way Cole Beasley had done, and then James Cook

1443
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: as a dynamic weapon out of the backfield. Along with

1444
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: the receiving cores that they already have. How can Ken

1445
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: Dorsey in year two maybe morph and change things ever

1446
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: so slightly to maybe give them even greater options and

1447
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: maybe safer options for Josh, to maybe avoid some of

1448
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: those turnovers you were talking about at the top.

1449
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 9: Experience is such a great teacher, and so with Ken

1450
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 9: having gone through it already getting his feet more than

1451
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 9: wet there, he's gonna be able to draw on things

1452
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 9: because it's gonna it's gonna be up and down. It

1453
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 9: always is. Nothing ever is perfect and smooth. Right, They're

1454
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 9: gonna have some players to replace and use backups and

1455
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 9: do this and alter game plans and whatever that is.

1456
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 9: Having had some experience, he'll be able to better adapt

1457
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 9: and make some changes and make some decisions when those

1458
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 9: things arise. Now with Kincaid and in knocks. When you

1459
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 9: have two tight ends like that, oh twelve personnel Steve Right,

1460
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 9: you can do a lot with that because I know

1461
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 9: Bill Belichick loved it in his career over there. When

1462
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 9: you when you have two capable guys, because you can

1463
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 9: put twelve on the field on certain downs. In the

1464
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 9: defensive coordinator they have to decide how to match to that.

1465
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 9: Do you keep your base defense on the field or

1466
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 9: do you play nickel And when you have a Kinkaid

1467
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 9: that can play in the slot and play wide receiver

1468
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 9: like he does, that that's a pass personnel group or

1469
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 9: can you come on in play a little smash model?

1470
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: Right?

1471
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: The difference is can your offense with those two guys

1472
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: on the field make them pay for their decision whichever

1473
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: it is.

1474
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 9: We're getting to be so much check with me and

1475
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 9: so many couple of plays packaged at a time. You know,

1476
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 9: I can see them coming out and saying that we're

1477
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 9: gonna we're gonna come out in twelve and if they're

1478
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 9: in nicol, we're gonna play some smash moudth We're gonna

1479
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 9: check to summarize against a six man front, a light

1480
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 9: box and if they're bunched up in there, we're slinging

1481
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 9: that thing, and so there's a lot of variables there

1482
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 9: and so we'll see what happens. You know, they lost

1483
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 9: a couple receivers with Jamison Crowder and Isaiah McKenzie and

1484
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 9: and Singletary and you know, running back there, and so

1485
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 9: there are some Damon Harris is good get.

1486
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that kind of speaks to some of what

1487
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: you're talking about with twelve personnel, because okay, now you

1488
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 2: got these two tight ends that are potential passing weapons

1489
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: but can block. And then from guard to guard they

1490
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: got considerably bigger osirus Torrance Connor McGovern government. They even

1491
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: got David Edwards. The three year started with the rams. Yeah, yeah,

1492
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: he might be a backup here. Big guys, you know,

1493
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds guard to guard, and then

1494
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: they got Damian Harris and Latavius Murray in the backfield.

1495
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put one of those guys.

1496
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: Out there with twelve person Yeah, you get a light box,

1497
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go.

1498
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 9: And so that I'm sure that's going to be part

1499
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 9: of their plan. And we had Dion Dawkins and Mitch

1500
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 9: Morris over there for interviews.

1501
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 4: Man alive.

1502
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 9: Not everybody is blessed with veteran leadership experience, like like

1503
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 9: those guys bring to the table their solid individuals.

1504
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 4: Start with that.

1505
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, good players, captain like and you know that kind

1506
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 9: of thing. And then of course they'll they'll bring these

1507
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 9: new guys along quickly, and you know, you got to

1508
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 9: be able to protect that franchise quarterback, that's for sure.

1509
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 9: Part of that is with pass protection. Part of that

1510
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 9: is with the run game. Like you mentioned, we've.

1511
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: Got we've been monitoring a trend that we see is

1512
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: this kind of this positionless football kind of on both

1513
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Can you the Bills did it

1514
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: last year where they they never switched up defensive person

1515
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: unless it was short yardage of goal line when they

1516
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: put some heavy people in, but it was nickel all

1517
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: the time. Two linebackers, three corners, two safeties. Now you're

1518
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, we're seeing a little bit of them. Maybe

1519
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: move to that offensively where like you said, either go

1520
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: twelve personnel or eleven personnel and just never get out

1521
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: of it and then move those pieces around. Maybe have

1522
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: a tight end in the slaughter to the boundary, put

1523
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: a tight end in the backfield, split the running back

1524
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: out because he's a really good route runner, all that

1525
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Do you see that trend continuing or

1526
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: is this just one more season of the NFL we're

1527
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna see.

1528
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 9: You know, when you and I were in the league, Steve,

1529
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 9: you know, there was they had a thing called fullbacks.

1530
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 9: It's like, excuse all right, they're extinct almost. Goo google

1531
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 9: that find out what it used to be that they're

1532
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 9: using tight ends to do some of that right now, right,

1533
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 9: And it was quarterbacks like under center, remember those days? Uh,

1534
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 9: you know, I had Steve Young. He never was in

1535
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 9: shotgun in his entire life really ever ever, and so

1536
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 9: he he just liked to have his eyes on his

1537
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 9: work and hands under a center right from the get go.

1538
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 9: Could have gone into shotgun, but he just didn't prefer it.

1539
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 9: He just wanted to be under Anyway, we are now

1540
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 9: over sixty percent and shotgun. We are now the most

1541
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 9: frequent personnel group in the league is eleven personnels. So

1542
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 9: that's the trend. That's what's coming up from the colleges,

1543
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 9: that's what's coming up from high schools. It simplifies the game.

1544
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 9: If you're only in eleven personnel and you're playing against

1545
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 9: nickel defense, all the time, you.

1546
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: Know, it's now basse.

1547
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, they called nickel bass, which that's nickel.

1548
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 4: No, it's base. That's crazy.

1549
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Fraser never came out of it.

1550
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

1551
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 9: And you know, so if if I'm playing against that

1552
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 9: a concept, you want to say, Okay, I'm going to

1553
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 9: bring my heavy guys in here and play a little

1554
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 9: smash mouth. We'll see if these light guys, these safeties

1555
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 9: and these nickel linebackers can hold up against this. So

1556
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 9: it's it's it's just chess match. A lot of it

1557
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 9: has to do with your personnel, right, but yeah, we're

1558
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 9: it's a throwing league.

1559
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 4: Let's face it.

1560
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 2: Last one I've for you, what do you think of

1561
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: this division? I think many are of the opinion that

1562
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: the Jets and the Dolphins have kind of closed the

1563
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: gap on Buffalo for various reasons, and the Bills are

1564
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: kind of under the radar. They're not the sexy pick

1565
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: this year like they were last year. But you can

1566
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: make the argument that most of their roster is deeper

1567
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: than it was last year here in Buffalo. Middle linebacker's

1568
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: probably an exception, and maybe one or two other places.

1569
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: But if you look up and down this roster and

1570
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: the depth chart with the two deep, it's hard to

1571
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: not think that the roster is a little more talented

1572
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: and maybe deeper. And yes, Miami Jets, they both got better.

1573
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 9: I don't know that they've pulled even and I don't

1574
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 9: think so, not yet anyway, So maybe you guys know

1575
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 9: the answer.

1576
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 4: Edmunds is gone.

1577
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 9: He was the green dot guy on defense, so the

1578
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 9: calls came into him.

1579
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 4: Who's going to replace him?

1580
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: Competition? Right now, it's Tyrel Dodson.

1581
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: Dotson, Christian Bernard, el Bernard Bernard. Okay, uh, the guy

1582
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: they drafted last year.

1583
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 9: Those two guys seem to be the that's a big decision, yes,

1584
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 9: because you count on that is a.

1585
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: Fourth year guy, and of course they had Edmondson. He's like,

1586
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: he's a condo condor huge. He's a power for his

1587
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: six ' five plus and he's hugely long. He's just

1588
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: a physical freak. Most linebackers aren't like, particularly in today's NFL.

1589
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: You talk about his playing smash mouth. A lot of linebackers,

1590
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,839
Speaker 1: by the standards of our day, are very undersized.

1591
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 9: Because they have to cover tackle in space.

1592
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 4: Right. Do you think the pendulum will swing back?

1593
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 9: No? No, we're gonna, We're gonna this is this is

1594
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 9: happen more and more the Dick Buckiss of the world

1595
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 9: and the Hall of Fame weekend, right right, Those kinds

1596
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 9: of linebackers don't exist in our league. Right the big, big,

1597
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 9: strong will kick your butt linebackers because we have to

1598
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 9: have them in coverage all the time, one on one

1599
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 9: against fast running backs Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara. Well

1600
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 9: cover that guy. Well, you gotta be a little guy.

1601
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 9: You gotta be a safe the sort of. But you know,

1602
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 9: you have to answer your question about the division. The

1603
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 9: Jets certainly are going to close the gap. And it's

1604
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 9: not just because of Aaron Rodgers. That's a good young

1605
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 9: football team they've drafted. Well, I can't wait for that opener,

1606
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 9: man open at the Jets.

1607
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think on the anniversary.

1608
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 9: Gosh, you think that's a big game because that I

1609
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 9: mean that that that winner loss is going to have

1610
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 9: playoff implications day one on that game because it's it's

1611
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 9: huge and so and then and then uh Miami, Miami

1612
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 9: is a good team speed. It's like a four by

1613
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 9: one over there. Yeah, and uh see, hope to us

1614
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 9: stays healthy. And then uh. Yeah, And then you're talking

1615
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 9: about the Patriots and they they've got a ways to

1616
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 9: go now, I mean they're yeah, they're you know, it's

1617
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 9: it's sinful to say that Bill Belichick's teams on the

1618
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 9: bottom looking up. But but they got to get more

1619
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 9: out of Mac Jones. I think Bill O'Brien being hired

1620
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 9: over there as mental help will show me the g

1621
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 9: get some continuity and experience in his ear.

1622
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: How much of a difference is Vic Fangs. You're going

1623
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: to make his defensive coordinator Miami.

1624
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 4: You know what, he's a solid coach.

1625
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 9: You know, he was a great defensive coordinator before he

1626
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 9: had the head coach opportunity, and here he's not going anywhere.

1627
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 9: He's Yeah, he'll make a difference, he'll be good. So

1628
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 9: the division is a tough one.

1629
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1630
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 9: And then the other a FC division in the West

1631
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 9: is the son of a gun too.

1632
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: And you know so East plays the West this year. Yeah,

1633
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: it's a fun schedule.

1634
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1635
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: Wait, and the nfcas they got to play here this year.

1636
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 4: It's a bear.

1637
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: It's a bear.

1638
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for coming.

1639
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 9: Appreciate guys, thanks for stopping by.

1640
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: That's Steve Martree from NFL Network joining us here on

1641
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: One Bills Live.

1642
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 3: We'll be back in a couple of Stay tuned all

1643
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: right back here on One Bills Live.

1644
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you live at training camp

1645
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher, Day seven, the books and after

1646
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: practice one, Josh Allen addressed the media for the second

1647
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: time here at training camp. I'm going to turn to

1648
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: him now here is Bill's QB one dasy though.

1649
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 5: Actually back to back, day's kind of s's like he

1650
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 5: got gaged up, especially on that next trick to play.

1651
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 11: What was going through your mind? Is that contact sitting you.

1652
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: Hit the ground.

1653
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 12: I mean I got the wind knocked out to me

1654
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 12: pretty good there. I woke up the next day or

1655
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 12: the next two days really and it's like, damn, I

1656
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 12: feel like I just played a game.

1657
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 11: You know, it's football.

1658
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 12: When we were out here, I'd like getting hit sometimes too,

1659
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 12: makes me feel live.

1660
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 4: Okay, what have you.

1661
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 6: Noticed throwing against King?

1662
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 11: Were raps involved and Sung?

1663
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 6: I mean you kind of take notice of they've moved

1664
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 6: him around a lot.

1665
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 12: Of Yeah, I mean he's kind of kind of playing

1666
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 12: that Rover type position where he's kind of got free

1667
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 12: range to move around back there and he's a smart

1668
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 12: ball player. That's why one of the reasons why we

1669
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 12: brought him here. And we're just happy that he's on

1670
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 12: our team. And again, he flies around. He's just he's instinctive,

1671
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 12: he sees things coming around. He's got to be very

1672
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 12: careful of where he's at throwing these inside slants because

1673
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 12: sometimes he's he's on his on his horse coming downhill

1674
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 12: and you.

1675
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 11: Don't want to throw any hospital balls.

1676
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 8: We call him Gosh this Fari and to camp, we

1677
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 8: had talked about, you know, a number of new parts

1678
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 8: for you offensively, you've spoken to trying to limit the

1679
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 8: turnovers and taking that approach which still be aggressive. How

1680
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 8: is it all kind of coming together so far?

1681
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, again, it takes time. We're just trying to work

1682
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 12: hard and work the kings out. I'm glad we're we're

1683
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 12: making mistakes now and learning from them and trying to

1684
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 12: correct them the next time that we go out there.

1685
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 12: And you know, again, it's not gonna be perfect right away.

1686
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 12: We got to talk through a lot of different things.

1687
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 12: And again, nothing that we did last year carries over

1688
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 12: to what we're gonna do this year. We're gonna be

1689
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 12: a completely different ball club based on you know, personnel

1690
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 12: and scheme, and every year you have to find new

1691
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 12: ways to to be different than you were last year

1692
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 12: and to be better than you were last year. And

1693
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 12: that sometimes takes a deep dive into what you're good at,

1694
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 12: what you're bad at, How can we improve on the

1695
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 12: on the bad, and how can we continue to call

1696
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 12: the good. So defenses have tape of what we like

1697
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 12: to do, and they're going to come out and try

1698
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 12: to stop that and force us to do what we

1699
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 12: maybe we weren't so good at last year, and we

1700
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 12: got to be prepared for that.

1701
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 6: Gosh, I don't know what.

1702
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,759
Speaker 3: You knew if Deontay Hardy before you guys signed him.

1703
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 3: But from that point till now.

1704
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 8: Has your understanding of what he can do, perception of

1705
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 8: what he is as a player, how.

1706
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: Much has that changed?

1707
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think when we first got him,

1708
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 12: it was kind of a kind of a gadget guy

1709
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 12: speed demon. But the man can run routes. He's a

1710
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 12: very very fine tuned receiver in and out of breaks.

1711
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 12: He's really really good. He comes downhill, is very friendly

1712
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 12: for quarterbacks, and he can do a lot more, I

1713
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 12: think than what we thought he could when we originally

1714
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 12: brought him in. But he can play inside and he

1715
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 12: can play outside, and he's a vertical threat that you know,

1716
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 12: teams are going to have to respect. And his speed

1717
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 12: speaks for itself. But again, just the ability for him

1718
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 12: to get in and out of cuts. He's very explosive

1719
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 12: that way. So we're excited to have him.

1720
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 8: What kind of.

1721
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: Dynamic is James Cook brings.

1722
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think just the threat of him

1723
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 12: being back there and and taking a handoff and running

1724
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 12: outside zone, running inside zone and then running outside and

1725
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 12: a linebacker and running some of these option routes that

1726
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 12: our offense calls our running backs to do.

1727
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 11: I think he's becoming.

1728
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 12: Really really good at those, and we've got to continue

1729
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 12: to incorporate those in our game plan and feed him

1730
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 12: the ball a little bit more because he is so

1731
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 12: explosive with the ball in his hands. He can make

1732
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 12: guys miss and the more more times we can get

1733
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 12: him the ball, the better we.

1734
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 11: Can't would have been made of the kind of straight

1735
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 11: fell what he ins alves.

1736
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 12: I mean, I love the kid. He's he's smart, he's instinctive.

1737
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 12: You know, we're just uh trying to get on the

1738
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 12: same page right now. But really trust, trusting in his

1739
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 12: body language, and he's speaking very easily to the quarterbacks

1740
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 12: right now and given giving us good places to throw

1741
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 12: the ball for him.

1742
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 11: For a couple of your teammates say that he doesn't

1743
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 11: act like a king, and I feel like every year

1744
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 11: in this time yet the exact same.

1745
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 13: Thing about somebody of what to you is that he

1746
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 13: doesn't tasting.

1747
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 11: I mean, I just feel like no moment now is

1748
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 11: too big for him.

1749
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 12: He understands the offense, he understands his role in the offense.

1750
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 12: He's not trying to do more than what he needs to.

1751
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 12: And sometimes rookies when they come in here, they put

1752
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 12: a lot of that pressure upon themselves. If I've got

1753
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 12: to make make sure everything's perfect, go out there and

1754
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 12: just play hard and learn the system, don't be afraid

1755
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 12: to make mistakes. And I think that's what he's doing

1756
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 12: really well right now. He's trusting guys like Dawson and

1757
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 12: coach Rob in his room and leaning heavily on them,

1758
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 12: and communication that I've been having with him has been fantastic.

1759
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 12: So again, that's only going to continue to grow and

1760
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 12: get better.

1761
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 9: A lot of quarterbacks around bled in on whether or

1762
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 9: not they want to be on the quarterback season to

1763
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 9: the documentary.

1764
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 3: Would you have any interest in that or will.

1765
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 12: You be sick during that sale?

1766
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 11: Probably the latter. I haven't watched yet.

1767
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 12: I know I talked to Pat a little bit about it,

1768
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 12: and I think it's a really cool concept. I think

1769
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 12: that to have everything documented, especially as a quarterback, is

1770
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 12: very cool. I mean, you look at some of the

1771
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 12: documentars that have come out in the past. You talk

1772
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 12: about the Jordan docum menory, but just to have that

1773
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 12: document especially if you can you can win and win

1774
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 12: at a high level and continue to be a successful

1775
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 12: quarterback in this league, to have that document and I

1776
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 12: think is super special. But at the same time, I

1777
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 12: don't want any outside distractions. I don't want any unnecessary

1778
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 12: distractions for for myself or this team. And I'm not

1779
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 12: saying that would be I'm a little undecided on whether

1780
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 12: I would want to do it or not. I go

1781
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 12: back and forth sometimes in my mind, but as of

1782
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 12: right now, I'm just trying to trying to be the

1783
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 12: best quarterback for this team.

1784
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 8: Talk about as.

1785
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 13: An overall approach to the offense, and I realized it's

1786
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 13: still the work in progress. But being less predictaous you

1787
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 13: felt like as last season went on that was more

1788
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 13: the case. Do you feel at this point that it's

1789
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 13: more diverse or balanced or.

1790
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 8: I don't want to put words with you about how

1791
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 8: would you describe things with some of the new parts.

1792
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 13: That you that you guys have enough.

1793
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think especially when we're dropping back

1794
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 12: to throw the ball, just the options and the opportunities

1795
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 12: that we're giving different guys.

1796
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 11: I don't think it's honed in on one guy.

1797
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 12: And obviously we're gonna play better when when me and

1798
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 12: fourteen are playing really well and opening up everything for

1799
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 12: a lot of other guys on the team. But it

1800
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 12: takes everybody, it takes all loving of us, and we're

1801
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 12: just trying to find out what we can be really

1802
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 12: good at and maybe what to stay away from right

1803
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 12: now in this timeframe. And I think that's that's a

1804
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 12: big part of camp, just trying to find what guys

1805
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 12: you're comfortable with. But again, I don't think there's a

1806
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 12: time right now. I think with some of the pre

1807
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 12: snap stuff and motions and this and that and just

1808
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 12: switching guys into different positions. I know people have reported

1809
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 12: it and it's it's not a secret. Now, if we

1810
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 12: do that in the game, that's different. But right now

1811
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 12: in camp, just trying to experiment with different things and

1812
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 12: to feel different guys in different spots, and I think

1813
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 12: that just kind of makes it harder for a defense

1814
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 12: to know or feel like where the ball's going because

1815
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 12: it could literally go to any of our guys on

1816
01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 12: the field at any given time.

1817
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 13: Josh, how you had that interceptions day, John Butler talked

1818
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 13: about putting his positions to let him physical at a

1819
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 13: line of scriment.

1820
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 6: What did you see on that play?

1821
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 11: What's been your impressions of how you got there?

1822
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, the rest didn't throw a flag on that one,

1823
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 12: and now he jumped a slant route and we got

1824
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 12: inside there. I made a good play. But he's been

1825
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 12: very physical. He's been on his locker mate. So every

1826
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 12: time I stand by or sitting next to him and

1827
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 12: he's got his iPad out and he's watching film, he's

1828
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 12: in the he's in the training room watching film, and

1829
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 12: he's very very serious about his craft, and he's working

1830
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 12: extremely hard right now, and it's good to see him

1831
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 12: kind of taking this step in his second year.

1832
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 11: And I know he he's so internally driven.

1833
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 12: He wants to be a great football player, so he's

1834
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 12: working extremely hard at that and I'm I'm proud of

1835
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 12: how he's approached things. So, like the beast few off seasons,

1836
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 12: you've come to camp with something specifically that he wanted

1837
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 12: to work on there with the inbreaking.

1838
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 11: Routes a couple of years ago.

1839
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: What is that this year?

1840
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 5: If you have anything at all, and have you been

1841
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 5: able to incorporate that into practice first week?

1842
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think just being situationally better in terms of

1843
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 12: the flow of the game, and it's hard to emulate

1844
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 12: that in a practice setting. I know coach McDermott puts

1845
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 12: us in these different situations to make it feel as

1846
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 12: game like as possible. Sometimes it's hard to do that though,

1847
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 12: but as these preseason games, you know, as they start

1848
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 12: rolling around even just watching other games, sitting down and

1849
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 12: understanding what we would try to do in this situation

1850
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 12: and what we could do better from those, you know,

1851
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 12: situations every every year around the league.

1852
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 11: You see in the preseason.

1853
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 12: Just different things pop up that may not pop up

1854
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 12: during the season at all, But to have that in

1855
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 12: the back of your mind to get some mental reps

1856
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 12: that those just in case it happens.

1857
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 11: It's good to have Josh Gosh.

1858
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 6: You and Josh you and welcome and meet.

1859
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 8: You and Mitch are going in a year five together.

1860
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 5: Which is pretty rare for our quarterback center combo.

1861
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 12: When it comes to coming off with actions in that communication,

1862
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 12: can you describe how comfortable.

1863
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 4: You are with that at this point?

1864
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, he Mitch knows what he's doing. It's good to

1865
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 12: have a vet like that in the in the room

1866
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 12: that we've been together for a long time. We know

1867
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 12: each other in and out, and I've uh spent a

1868
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 12: lot of time under center with him, so I'm very

1869
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 12: comfortable with who he is and just the man he is.

1870
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 12: He's a freaking awesome dude. He's a great leader for

1871
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 12: this team. He's a captain for a reason. And uh,

1872
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 12: it's it's very comfortable knowing that he knows what's going

1873
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 12: on at all at all times.

1874
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 11: They're an extra I'm sorry.

1875
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 3: There is there an extra level that you can get

1876
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 3: to when you get have been together. If you think

1877
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 3: about Micha and Jordan Bey together for.

1878
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: So long, things they could do with a safety countable.

1879
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 6: Is there more that you can do when you've been

1880
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 6: with the same center.

1881
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 3: For so long.

1882
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean there's always always ways to improve.

1883
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 8: How about tomorrow night?

1884
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 13: Kind of looking ahead it and you said make it

1885
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 13: feel more game like whatever you've revers got a couple.

1886
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 6: Of responses and go on.

1887
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 13: Sean spoke to about this morning that maybe not for you,

1888
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 13: but some of the younger players that would never.

1889
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 8: Get him in the stadium with a crowd in there.

1890
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 8: How much do you look forward to it? And how

1891
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 8: beneficial because a knight like.

1892
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 12: Tomorrow night, Well, I think it's it's very cool for

1893
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 12: our new guys, rookies included, to see our fans in

1894
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 12: our stadium and to feel the inner in there and

1895
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 12: Bill's mouth. I know they're selevating to get back in

1896
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,560
Speaker 12: that stadium, and you know, the fans here have been fantastic.

1897
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 12: Rochester always always is so good for us, and I

1898
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 12: love Saint John Fisher. So I can't think thank the

1899
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 12: staff and everybody here for helping put this on enough.

1900
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 12: But it does feel good to be in your home

1901
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 12: stadium and playing some football.

1902
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 4: One last year.

1903
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 8: Coming into the team, you guys super Bowl favorites just

1904
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 8: past off. He was a lot more talk about other teams.

1905
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: Jadge golfriends family in the teams we had Dan like,

1906
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: does he hear that outside guys, And he just said.

1907
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 6: Who cares?

1908
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1909
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 12: I think internally we all kind of feel the same way.

1910
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 12: We're just trying to put our best foot forward and

1911
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 12: work as hard as we can and let you guys

1912
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 12: in the media talk about all that other stuff. We're

1913
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 12: going to focus on just trying to be the best,

1914
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 12: best team and best versions of ourselves every time we

1915
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 12: step into our facility and every time we step out

1916
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 12: in this practice field.

1917
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: Well, much like Josh said when he was on with

1918
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: us last week, you know, the mantra in that locker

1919
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 2: room is want it, work it, win it. And he's

1920
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: kind of echoing some of those same sentiments today when

1921
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 2: he addressed the media right after practice. Interesting to hear

1922
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: his take on a number of the talents that he

1923
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 2: now has at his disposal within the scope of the offense. Says,

1924
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 2: Kinkaid is not making more of it than he needs to.

1925
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: A lot of rookies sometimes go out there in camp

1926
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: and try to do too much. He said, he's not

1927
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 2: doing that. He's playing within himself and that's allowing his

1928
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: game to really excel. And then Deontay Hardy, his initial

1929
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: impressions were, oh, you know gadget player, you know this,

1930
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: that and the other. He said, But the guy can

1931
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: flat out run routes and get separation. So I think

1932
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 2: there's a there's a thought here, and it may not

1933
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: just be Josh's opinion that Hardy isn't going to be

1934
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: this gadget player like Isaiah McKenzie was. It sounds as

1935
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 2: though there are people on the offensive side of the

1936
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: ball with this team that believe he's capable of much

1937
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 2: more than that.

1938
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it'll be a question can he stay healthy,

1939
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: can he stay on the field.

1940
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 4: What are his other roles?

1941
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: Is he going to be part of that return game

1942
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: for Hardy? There's a lot I think gonna be put

1943
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: on his plate because of his athleticism and his speed,

1944
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: his ability to put pressure on the defense or a

1945
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: coverage team. So a lot of that going isabella the

1946
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: same thing. Those guys are gonna have to kind of

1947
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: find their way onto the roster, and Ken Dorsey and

1948
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, Matt Smiler gonna have to find a place

1949
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: for him. It's really interesting to you talk about that

1950
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: young guy like Kinkaid not making more of it as

1951
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: it is than it is. So many young players come

1952
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 1: out there, they catch a pass in practice and they think, man,

1953
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: you know they've accomplished it, right, And it's a just

1954
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: kind of passing practice.

1955
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 4: Bro take a chill pill or.

1956
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: They drop a pass and freak out and then their

1957
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: their head is somewhere else for the rest of practice.

1958
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: They start to circle the drain. Yeah, so it's really

1959
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: good to know to have a sense of you know

1960
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: how long this is gonna take to weather out and

1961
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Speaker 1: just play your game and stay within yourself.

1962
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Speaker 4: Like like Josh said.

1963
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Speaker 1: It's it's difficult to do because these guys, like so

1964
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Speaker 1: many of us out there and me and you and

1965
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: you grow up watching this game on TV.

1966
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Speaker 4: It's hard not to.

1967
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Speaker 1: Make a really big dig deal of it when you

1968
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: actually get in it. So to have you to be

1969
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: able to take a deep breath and say, just let

1970
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: me play this play. I'll take the next one as

1971
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: it comes. It's it's hard to do, but kin Kid

1972
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: seems to be doing it consistently.

1973
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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but Steve and I come

1974
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Speaker 2: back with one more segment with you here. On day

1975
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Speaker 2: seven of Bill's training camp at Saint John Fisher, It's

1976
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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live, presented by to a lout of health.

1977
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Speaker 2: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on

1978
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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. I'm gonna take a phone call real quick.

1979
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Speaker 2: We go to Joe in East Aurora. What do you

1980
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Speaker 2: got for us?

1981
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Speaker 4: Joe?

1982
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Speaker 14: Hey, guys love the show, Thanks pretty much. What I

1983
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 14: got here is I haven't heard too much about Osiris

1984
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 14: Torrance and wonder what you guys have seen out there.

1985
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Speaker 14: And is he going to be a Day one starter

1986
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Speaker 14: or just in the rotation?

1987
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Speaker 2: Yeah, still to be determined. He's in that right guard

1988
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: mix right now. He's been getting He's gotten time with

1989
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: the Ones each of the last four days, but not exclusively.

1990
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: Right They're still rotating Ryan Bates through the incumbent from

1991
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: last year in right guard as well. Bates has also

1992
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 2: been playing some center behind Mitch Moore. So it's to

1993
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 2: be determined. And to be quite honest, we only got

1994
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: three days in Pats so far. I think we're gonna

1995
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: need the preseason games to get a firmer handle on

1996
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 2: just what he's capable of. I will tell you one

1997
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: on ones. They can't move him backwards very well. He

1998
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 2: doesn't move. He's hard to drive into the lap of quarterback.

1999
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 4: Not that he's not athletic. It means he's moving.

2000
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in a mobile guy in pass protection.

2001
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, he's he's in the mix there, and

2002
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: certainly you ask about him being a day one starter.

2003
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Speaker 1: That is at this point, there's no question it's on

2004
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: the table, but I don't think it's been decided yet.

2005
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Speaker 2: That'll do it for today's addition of One Bill's Live.

2006
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Speaker 2: Maddie Glad will be here with me tomorrow as she

2007
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 2: fills in for Steve. We'll also have DJ Yes and

2008
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: DJ Milk on the show. Got Him on the Wheels

2009
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: is Steel on One Bill's Live.

2010
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Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow at one