WEBVTT - Big Wednesday 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.360 Tomorrow is Thanksgiving, which is your favorite holiday? It is 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.720 my favorite holiday. What makes it your favorite holiday? What 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.920 makes it my favorite holiday? Well, it's actually kind of, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:25.439 um a sad thing. But as a kid, um, when 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:30.280 my parents got divorced, well even even like when my 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.760 parents were together, it was always Christmas was just crazy. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.680 We were had to go to like so many different families, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.919 and then when my parents got divorced, it was one 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.400 side of the family was never happy, so no matter 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.120 how long we stayed there or didn't spend time, so 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:55.040 it just became like pressure and I didn't like having 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.560 to be I don't know, I just was I wish 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.000 like our family got up together at the same time 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:04.240 time and we were together, and but not having to 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:05.720 go to this house in this house because my parents 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.040 are divorced, and so that always just put a little 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.760 damper of Christmas. But with Thanksgiving, even when my parents 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.640 got divorced, Thanksgiving was always my aunt Susie's house and 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.440 that never changed. And I just, I don't know, I 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.320 just I love Thanksgiving because it was so much fun. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.960 It was my aunt and uncles and my grandpa and 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.959 my grandpa makes the best stuffing of all time, which 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.520 I am now pressured to make. Well. We almost last 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.800 second decided to just go to Michigan because I'm like, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.319 my grandpa's getting my grandma Grandpa both getting so old, 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:44.679 and it's a stuffing and my Grandma's pumpkin pie for you. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.840 But then I realized, Okay, God forbid, we have something 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.840 that we catch on the plane and we give to them. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.160 So I hope they're around next year that we can 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.640 and this will all be we'll all be vaccinated or 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.200 whatever and we can go to um, you know, to 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.280 have Thanksgiving with them again. But I don't know. Thanksgiving 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:07.920 there's just like no pressure and it was just fun 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.680 and we played games, we played ker and we had 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.840 great food and there was just no pressure of gifts 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.320 or going from house to house and I don't know, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.320 it's just yeah, it was just chill and the food, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.959 I mean, the stuffing. He's famous for it. And now 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.040 you're stressing out a little. But we went to the 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:30.880 grocery store this morning. It's are you worried? Because Grandpa 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.480 came here two months ago and he sat down and 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.280 he told you exactly how to make it. It was. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.040 It wasn't like exactly step by step. I had about 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.960 five people. It was like your grandpa, then your mom, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.320 your Grandma's like, well, then you gotta just the bread 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.400 is actually a stale bread. Don't forget the onion, oh Marge. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.799 And then someone else saying and someone else saying something else, 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.760 and I'm just like jotting down chicken scratch. Can't even 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.880 read my own handwriting this morning looking back at it. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:04.760 But and then my Grandpa's like, and then you take 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.440 the what was it the heart or giblets? The giblets, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.079 and I'm like, what's the giblets And he's like, that's 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.040 the good stuff. Yeah, like the liver and grind it 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.040 up and put it in the pan with the onions 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.520 out on it. We'll find out. So here's to hope. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.840 And I don't ruin your Thanksgiving. He won't ruin it. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.840 But there is something to be said about just his 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.440 thanks I mean, his his stuffing. It's so good. Which, shoot, 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.360 we forgot the gravy. I hope we have gravy. I'm 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.920 gonna have to text our friends. You have to have gravy. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.520 You have to have gravy. I know. I feel like 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.240 sometimes people don't have enough gravy and we have to 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.200 have meshed potatoes. Oh my goodness, I gotta make sure 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:47.600 that the menus. Yeah, but I'm I'm excited though, even 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:48.920 though I'm sad that we're not going to do a 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.120 family But what is your favorite holiday? It used to 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.920 be Thanksgiving. Um, kind of not for the same reason, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.320 but a little bit for the same reason. You know, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.840 my parents were the ones that got divorced. But my 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.880 parents are the only ones on either side of the 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:09.960 family that have never been divorced or married in general. Um, 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.000 so Thanksgiving was always my mom's side of the family. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.159 And that was like when my grandma was active and 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.840 not suffering from dementia, and she was the most unbelievable cook, 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.479 like everything from scratch, She like cook it all herself. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.839 It was unreal. And you know, the parents are upstairs. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.280 She had a little split split foyer the house and 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.680 the kid's tables downstairs. And I just remember just the 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.279 memories of Thanksgiving downstairs with me and my cousins and 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.359 my sister and you know, because there's six of us 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.160 and are all around the same age. So that was 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.880 just a lot of fun. But now I think it's Christmas, 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.240 and growing up, I think, you know, my family was 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.800 an outlier where we got to benefit from just both 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.880 families happen to do on different days. My dad's side 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.520 was always Christmas Eve. My mom's side was always from day, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.400 so there wasn't any pressure of all right, we gotta 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:03.919 go to get your dad's side of family. Okay, we 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.720 gotta go here. That's just the way it was when 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.440 I was a kid. So that was you know, we've 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.640 benefited from that. But I just love to get getting together. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.360 I definitely think Christmas now is my favorite because the 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.840 thanks leavings now my saddest because it's not like how 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.719 it used to be. So I'm not with Grandpa and 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.520 Grandma and my aunts and uncles and my mom and 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.440 that side of the family. But now Christmas so that's 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.640 like become now like my sad memory, um, which is 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.880 I wish we could fly to Michigan, dangy covid um, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.960 just because you know they're our grandparents are getting old 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.560 so um. But now I think Christmas is my favorite 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.080 just because the kids, oh so much fun and I'm 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.720 excited to you know, it's just yeah, Christmas morning, it's 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.039 it's the best, and then it's like the worst because 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.960 it's like when it's all done, you're like, all right, 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:03.080 we now putting bad areas and everything. Oh that's funny. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.760 I love it though. You know, tonight I didn't know 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.320 this if Easter and I were just talking about it 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:12.400 before the show, but I didn't know until later in 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.560 my life that tonight was like the biggest going out 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.520 night of the year. Really. Yeah, it's like bigger than 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.960 New Year's, bigger than when all the I mean, gosh, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.760 when I used to come back from l A, oh, 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.800 I just thought I was hot. I would just walk 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.880 into the main street Billiards in Rochester. I was like, 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.000 that's right, I'm back from l A. And then like 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.479 if you just see all, you're like high school. But 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.960 I mean it was packed. It's like sweet Home Alabama. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.320 Oh my god. I couldn't even imagine she does in 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.560 l A. Had you been on anything yet? What have 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.560 you been on anything yet? I mean probably not, But 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:55.839 I still thought l A was cool. Yeah, Um, I 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.080 guess I never did. I never experienced it because I 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.960 was always in football. Yeah know, I mean I definitely remember, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.680 but that being the night before everyone went out because 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.000 at any time I would go home for a thing, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.200 because I never missed a Thanksgiving, even when I lived 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.440 in l A. So, oh my god, I did miss one. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:23.240 Remember I touched that story. What happened? He stood not 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.720 to bring up the past, but I did miss one Thanksgiving. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.240 But I mean, that was kind of hard to say 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.520 no to kin to. I'll even admit that. Ethan just 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:39.320 goes tell the story. The story. Now, I don't want 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.120 to bring up I'm just I had to accurately speak 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.960 the truth because I said I always I never missed 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.360 a Thanksgiving. But then I just remembered the one that 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.560 I did miss because it's someone I was dating. But 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.920 it was like, it's dad, you know. I was like, 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.200 that's pretty cool. And this was probably like the year 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.119 before me. Huh, it was right after I mean yeah 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.400 it was. It was Yeah, I had just broken up 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.720 with someone and then I started dating this other dude. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:21.200 Can I just say that? Who that was? I mean Easton? Oh, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.200 this is actually your neck of the woods. What do 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:28.000 you mean? Your neck Montito? We went to Montcito. Who 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.440 is it? Wait, let's play a game. Let's do a 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.400 guessing game. This is fun. I don't know how to 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.360 play the game. So this person has a famous father. 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:43.000 Is that is that? Okay? And his father has a 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:48.320 home in Montcito? Okay? Um? Trying to think is something 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.280 that clever? He's a mute, he was a mule in 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:57.520 a movie he's played He's played a mule, he's played 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:02.520 a and all the movies. I just like, was he 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:13.520 it an outlaw? Do you feel lucky? Okay? Do you punk? Dirty? Harry? 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.200 I never saw it? Wait this, okay, I I know 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.320 who it is now, But is this person that you 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:24.000 were with is his son is an actor? Too? Right? Yeah? Okay? 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.400 Uh yeah, I think we all know who it is now. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.920 That's all we'll give you. They're good and they're not 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:37.520 going to know that. Really everyone knows. Do you do 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.440 you feel a lucky? I didn't know it, do you. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.000 I'm not gonna like when you said he played a mule. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.360 I was like Janet dated one of Eddie Murphy's kids. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.880 That was it. He was donkey in the Shrek movies. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.400 But a mule is not a donkey. They're different animals. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.840 That's not who it is, huh. I mean I wouldn't know. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.840 So anyways, Janna got the invite to go there for 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.960 Thanksgiving instead of just her whole family that would always 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:15.439 be there for her and Grandpa stuffing. And she said, nope, 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:21.560 the same thing. I don't blame you, I mean of us. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.280 It was Clint Eastwood. Come on, d she just throws 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.880 it out there. I mean, how could I How could 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.359 I say no? But I actually it was so embarrassing 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.400 because I made a fool of myself in front of him. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.880 What'd you do? Remember at the I was in the 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:43.679 bathroom when that happened Thanksgiving dinner. No, I told him 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:51.360 how he should have ended million dollar Baby. I think 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.200 I was nervous. If it was me, I totally would 0:10:54.200 --> 0:11:01.200 have done. But No, I got some to say to you, Clint. No, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.839 I was. It was so embarrassing because his son went 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.640 to the bathroom and I was just like, your son's 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.439 a very nice guy. And he's like, huh because he's old, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.520 and I was like, your son is a very nice man. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.079 And then I just was so uncomfortable and I was 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:23.079 like sweating, and I was like, Okay, I actually can 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.360 I talk to you about something? And I was like, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.640 so in million dollars, million dollar baby. When Hillary swank 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.120 it was the last scene and they were going at it. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:38.240 The ref said, one more cheap shot and you're disqualified, 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.400 and at the very end, her opponent cheap shot it again, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.880 so she should have then been disqualified, which would have 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.720 meant Hillary swank one, not the other girl, because he 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.200 gave the championship to the other girl even though the 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:56.200 ref said one more cheap shot, they get eliminated. And 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:03.400 he gave me like just to stare and went huh 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.400 m hmm, and I was just like, I'm going to 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.120 bury my head in this bowl. I'm so disappointed in you, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.679 and I didn't even know you then, so disappointed. But 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.800 do you see what I'm saying though, Like the ref said, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.080 that's too predictable, you're talking to the guy who wrote 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.920 the damn thing, directed the damn thing, starting the damn thing. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.960 I was nervous and I was trying to make conversation. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.960 Triple Crown. That movie didn't win like Best Picture. Also, yeah, yeah, hey, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.079 you know you could have done on that Best Picture. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.360 Oscar Huh. I'm crying right now. This is the funniest 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.360 thing I've ever He should have gotten up, walked over 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.640 to wherever his Oscar is, grabbed it and put it 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.960 on the table in front of Janna've been like, I'm 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.760 just saying the ref said, one more cheap shot and 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.920 you're eliminated, and the girl cheap shot at Hillary, which 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.160 then took her out. So the Hillary should have won. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.319 Here's what people need to know about Janna when she 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.000 watched this thing. If it doesn't end the way she 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.079 wants it to end, it's the rules. The ref said, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:11.040 it's over, she writes it off. Movie was terrible, didn't 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.920 end the way I want. Why didn't they end up together? 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.440 Why didn't Why did Glinice win, Harry Swink have a baby? 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:24.800 Everyone should be happy? Oh lord, you're like sweating right now. Really, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.600 isn't it. Well, it's just it's because the ref said. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:29.560 And so it's like I would have been fine if 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.360 the ref didn't say that, Like he should have at 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:37.040 least cut that line. I'm in a week up in 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:38.520 the middle of the night, like later in the week 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:44.600 and just cry like baby should have entered. I can't 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.720 believe it. He won Best Director for that movie too. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.640 He has too Oscar. Yeah, I know, Well, Me and 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.640 the Sun broke up like the day after, so maybe 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:59.320 his dad don't want to break up with me most likely. Alright, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.959 let's take a break. We'll come back to this. Something 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:17.840 else please. Okay, So we have a really exciting guest 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.640 that we're going to have on the show. Mike's gonna 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.400 enter her in her second. But um, we basically wanted 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.920 to have someone on because look, Tomorrow's Thanksgiving. UM, we 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.480 have you guys might be getting together with your family. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.360 You might not, but there might be some fighting arguing 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.200 with the pandemic and the stress of just everything, um, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.600 politics and just everything that everyone's facing right now. Because 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.840 I'll know, I do know this, Like my anxiety has 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.960 been up just with the cases rising, so um, you know, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:51.280 kind of freaks me out work wise and obviously just 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.600 the overall uncertainty. UM. So we have, um, Ryan Hadden 0:14:55.720 --> 0:15:00.360 coming on. Mike take it away. Yeah, we have an 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:05.440 amazingly accomplished woman on today. Ryan is a certified life 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.800 and spiritual coach. She's a hypnotherapist, certified meditation teacher with 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.920 over sixteen years of experience with clients around the world. Um. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.800 She does private workshops such as Stepping into your Purpose, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.200 the work life balance, and finding your center. And before 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.680 all of that, she was in a volatile relationship with 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.720 Christian Slater, and she's helped a ton of people in 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.560 Hollywood kind of you know, rid themselves of the life 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.120 that they that can consume you and helping people that 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.920 are in toxic relationships that have you know, suffered from 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.560 drug and alcohol abuse, eating disorders, codependency, low self esteem, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.880 all that. So we're gonna get her on and just 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:46.080 talk everything that she does. Ryan, Hey, how are you? 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.560 How are you going? You? It's so good to see you. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.760 Go to see you too. Ryan. We're excited to have 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.280 you on. Um. You know, everything that we've been reading 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.440 about you are things that we talk about on this show. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.800 And it seems like you're kind of a jack of 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.400 all trades, um in the sense of just everything that 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.920 you cover and so give our listeners, you know, we 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.560 kind of gave them a little bit of background, but 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.320 can you explain to us, like how you got into 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.360 all these fields that you're into. Sure, Well, first off, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.160 thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:16.720 And I love what you guys are all about too, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.320 and thanks for making this platform. It's it's important for 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.000 people to get information, um about how to you know, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.560 move into a relationship with themselves, and we think it's 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.160 about having relationships with others, but it's ultimately how are 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.920 we showing up for ourselves within that relationship and everyone benefits. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.400 So thank you for talking about those things. And for me, 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:44.160 my journey is UM that I found most of my life, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.400 I was looking for that solution outside of myself, be 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.920 it in trying to bend my body to a certain 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:56.040 weight or um finding that perfect relationship out there that 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.960 doesn't exist. Are in turn, you know, chasing the shine, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.280 things and people, places and things and all of that 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.679 and then ultimately leading it to a very real and 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:11.720 present bottom in UM addiction. And so in that recovery 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:16.320 process that's almost seventeen years ago, I found that I 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.040 really loved working with other women and helping them sort 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.720 of put those pieces together for themselves and really lean 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:27.159 into themselves and truly finding that from that place, everything 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.719 else kind of worked out, you know, all the purpose, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.040 the passion, the relationship, the making peace with your body, 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.159 all those different elements. Do you only work with with women? 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.840 I don't. I work with men too now, But it 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.200 started out working with women, and I do work with men. Actually. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.080 I just that's just opening up and it's very very interesting. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.680 I have this flood of men that I'm working with 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.760 these days, and I love it. We've got to balance 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.040 the both sides, right, the feminine the masculine within ourselves. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.080 So of course that would come through my practice. So 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.080 before you got again, we interview kind of gave them 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.520 a background of what you do for a living now 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.359 and before you got into the spiritual life coaching and 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.760 hypnotherapy and everything like that. When you hit your bottom, 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.600 like you said, was about seventeen years ago, what were 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.040 you doing before that? And why was that moment? You know, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.119 that moment of clarity for you? M hm, you know what. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.760 I had been a seeker, if you will. It had 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.080 led me at seventeen to run off to India and 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.280 to live in a you know, make a pilgrimage to 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.760 a sacred site and lived there for many years. And 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.439 so I had been a seeker. I had been looking 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:39.000 for that alignment um, if you will, at an earlier age. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.600 And UM, I did find a connection with something greater 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.840 that has really carried me through dark days. It didn't 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.960 preclude me from having them, but that connection, I want 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.520 to say that grace um shortened the distance between you 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.440 know the dark knight of the soul and stepping back 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.480 into feeling in the sunlight of the spirit, if you will. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.840 So I do feel like because I had that at seventeen, 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.399 and I had been a seeker, I was able to 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.000 continue to grow out my spiritual path and yet be 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.800 this courageous person trying out all these other things, still 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.159 looking outside of myself or solutions, until I finally came 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.479 to that resting place seventeen years ago. I was like, 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.960 I'm done, I'm done seeking, I'm done thinking. It's somewhere else. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.800 It's in that relationship. And you know, at that time 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:31.240 I was married, and that relationship a year or so later, Um, 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.920 I didn't didn't hold, but it continued in another form 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.159 because we were co parenting. We had two small children, 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.159 and so yeah, so that's that's that's that part. So 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.919 I will say, I have always been looking and trying 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.520 to through therapy, through all these different paths of trying 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.000 to find that center within myself. And I didn't know 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.159 it at the time. I didn't know that was what 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.879 I was seeking. But I definitely picked up more urgency 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.680 with that addiction piece, I will say, So I'm grateful 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.000 for it. I'm sure um along with that. You know, 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.199 being a person in recovery myself, you know you come 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.520 across brothers and sisters that have a difficult time leaning 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:15.000 into the spirituality of program or spirituality in life in general. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.119 So as a spiritual life coach, uh, I make up 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.399 that you've come across clients that that have you know, 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.320 closed doors to their spirituality. How are you able to 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.399 maybe for our listeners, if there's someone out there that 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.159 has a hard time connecting with that spirituality, how do 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.400 you invite that when you have a client like that. 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.040 M I think we can redefine it. I think it's 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.119 about broadening that definition of spirituality. I mean, what what 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.000 could that be? What's something greater than you? You know, 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.280 it could just be the idea of love, It could 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.720 be nature, It could be something that it feels bigger 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.760 than the ego, bigger than the personality. And that might 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.720 even be that godhead within yourself, or that connection when 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.880 you look at your child and feel that that love, 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:03.360 that's obviously much that transcends. You know, they're the finite 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.280 part of our humanity. You feel that that greatness. So 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.439 I think I would talk to them about redefining what 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.119 spirituality looks like. And it's not the crystals and the 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.600 singing bowls and you know, going to church, and it's not. 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.560 It doesn't have to be all of that. It can 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.280 be much more simple and much more connected. And um, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.080 I love that beautiful adage of you know, something greater 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.879 can be closer than our hands and feet, right, and 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.440 so that's within us. So how can we have access 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.480 to that within our own selves? And I think everybody 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.800 wants that because we all are enslaved a certain hard 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:39.919 to our minds and our thoughts. You know, we have 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.480 eighty thousand thoughts of demost in which are unconscious. So 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.480 to be able to drop past that into that part 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.760 of us that's calm and peaceful, that can be or 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:54.200 something greater. We can access that through lots of different mortalities, 0:21:54.240 --> 0:22:02.560 meditation being one of them. What with hypnotherapy, is that 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:06.400 kind of like an E. M D R brain spotting 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.119 or is it completely different? Because I make up that 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:15.879 like it has the same reaction, But is it or 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:19.520 is it totally different? Well, it's I can't speak to 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.679 that because I don't practice that. I know it's way effective, 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.920 and I think it's something that you practice too, Is 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:30.280 that right? Um? So with hypnotherapy though, how how is 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.840 like what what's the process with that? Like? What are 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.920 like what are people getting hypnotized for because I've only 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.680 heard of hypnoti hypnotization when it's to quit smoking or 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.000 I don't know what, Like what else can you be 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:48.399 hypnotized for? Sure? Well, it's it's let's just say this 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.280 that trance is a natural state for us. So I 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.400 love to start out by talking about that, that we're 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.400 in trance more often than we know. We're in trance 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.040 when we're driving a car for me to b and 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:00.600 we don't know how we got to be where that 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.600 was a form of trance right or when we're reading 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.280 a book or we're watching a movie. It's really moving 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.560 into this focused state of awareness. And then you have 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.760 these brainway of activity levels like right now we're in beta. 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.760 Below that is alpha, and you can kind of dip 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.879 into that in meditation or when you're you know, doing 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.679 something to the exclusion of other things. And then below 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:25.199 that is Theta. So when we're in hypnosis would be 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.000 like a guided meditation and hypnotherapist would guide you into 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:31.520 this very relaxed state of mind and body. And that 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:33.720 is when in that theta state, that is when the 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.000 subconscious is most receptive to new ideas and new ways 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.840 of being. So that's where we find people do great 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.120 with quitting smoking or nail biting or any of those. 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.920 But it also works great for old ideas around love, 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:52.840