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Speaker 1: Celabripook Club. Can you say your name for me at

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Speaker 1: your age and something fun about yourself. My name is

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Speaker 1: Lance in fourteen years old and from Jackson, Mississippi, and

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Speaker 1: my sister is my best friend. All right, Lance, Why

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Speaker 1: don't you sing the Star Spangled banner for me? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Oh see? Can you see towns earlier? I'm gonna stop

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Speaker 1: you right there? Really good stuff. Can you do that

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Speaker 1: for me? But just a little bit of sexier, like

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Speaker 1: you're singing to a girl you're about to ask out

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Speaker 1: I love um, I love talking to girls and seeing

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Speaker 1: their pretty bodies. Okay, oh, speak, can't you see? Oh

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Speaker 1: what's sober? Oh yeah, that's really good? Oh thanks, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you got a lot of soul for you,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um I sang a lot in the church

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Speaker 1: tell you know. It's good to project from your stomach.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you Is it getting hot in here? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Orlando falls really humid? Can you take off your shirt

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Speaker 1: for me and let's just see how you move a

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Speaker 1: little bit? Ah, sure, if you think that'll help. And

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Speaker 1: start from the beginning of the star spankled banner. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here it is the swart speckled banner, but shirtless. Oh

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Speaker 1: say can you see Don's early Oh? What's so proud?

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Speaker 1: Are we? And just you got you got the job?

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Speaker 1: I kid, you're amazing. Wow. Thanks, Thanks Lou Pearlman. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever thought about living in Orlando, Florida full time? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: we could get you a tutor and you could join

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Speaker 1: my band of other sexy I mean athletic young men

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Speaker 1: who can sing and also have similar Christian values to

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Speaker 1: both of us. Yes, as as long as everyone's Christian.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind taking my shirt off with other teenage

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Speaker 1: boys for you. Absolutely. I'll set you up in my

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Speaker 1: club house recording studio. It's called the Twisom. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: love it. Welcome to the team, buddy, can't wait. Here's

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Speaker 1: my shirt for your records. Boost that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 1: It's all your friends, your filthy horse. Your husband's gone

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Speaker 1: and you've got books and little of wine to kill.

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Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir's martinis. Clebrit

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Speaker 1: book Club can read it while it's hot. Celebrity book Club.

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Speaker 1: Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys

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Speaker 1: are Alloud, Celebrity book Say It Loud and Cloud Celebrity

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Speaker 1: book Club buzz Man. I brought the queer poem best.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be podcast time. Nay brother your hair lass

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Speaker 1: a book, babe. God. I was in Boston this weekend

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Speaker 1: thinking about eighty for Brady and I was like, hold on, Steven,

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Speaker 1: not written. Me an, what's funny about the class dynamics

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Speaker 1: and NADI for Brady And well, and we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the book. It isn't about you know, oh your typical

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Speaker 1: later because they moved to Boston early on in their career.

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Speaker 1: It's because it's a hub for education, academia, healthcare, technology

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Speaker 1: Why am I turned on? And you'll be hearing more

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Speaker 1: about Stephen's Boston trip and the VIP lounge. But other

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Speaker 1: than that, how was your weekend? Not to pry, My

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Speaker 1: weekend was pretty awesome. I saw your ex boyfriend in

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Speaker 1: a gay person and finding your way. Yeah, we this

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Speaker 1: week read a book by our coworker, Yeah, by our

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Speaker 1: fellow iHeart podcaster post. I don't know ordinaire. Is he

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Speaker 1: work productively, co hosted with her husband. Yes, yes, we

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Speaker 1: Lass and his memoir out of Sync, a memoir ironically,

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Speaker 1: about it. Wow yeah Lance, this book wowow clocking in

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Speaker 1: at a beautiful two hundred and twelve pages. I just

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Speaker 1: like how I would try to write papers in high school,

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Speaker 1: there's roles for multiple people exactly like group choreo. Okay,

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Speaker 1: still have like a continued career as being the Backstreet Boys,

425
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: and like are like playing smaller midsized teams or like

426
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: reunion tours. Yeah, in the kind of the millennial, that's

427
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: not such a I'm not saying that's a win, but

428
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying of like the differences, like and Sync was

429
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: like a short term project because it's like it was

430
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: always going to be justin. It was like the Dustiny's Child,

431
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: it was always gonna be just Yeah. Then he laughed. Well,

432
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: but I think partly why he laughed was because he

433
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: wanted to be less white and less glee club and

434
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: last Christian and the songs like if you listen to

435
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: the first part of I Want You Back, which we

436
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: can't play for copyright reasons, but it's very like Christian

437
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: glee club harmonies. And I do think that Lance felt

438
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: he was like a singer for he felt that like

439
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: what they were doing was like complicated and beautifully talks

440
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: about singing this perspangled banner, the first thing they ever

441
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: got together, and he's like, it sounds like it was

442
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: a scene from Glee, Like it really like you know,

443
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: their harmonies were being so broad right stuff. Have you

444
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: listened to Gone, which was a turning point. Yes, okay,

445
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: so Gone. I had like never listened to Celebrity because

446
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: I mean, by the time Celebrity came out again, I

447
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: was so cool and you were like, sorry, I'm going

448
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: to a dark Buster concert. I'm gonna drink a ton

449
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: of pepsi beforehand. I actually wasn't eamed freaking a loud soda. Meanwhile,

450
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: you were chugging sugar and listening to soundtracks. You're like

451
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: crunchy ass Cambridge Department being like, yeah, I'm so badass.

452
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: I'm having pistachios that my mom got it. Yes, I

453
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: was eating pistachios unsweetened peanut butter. Yeah. Have fun with

454
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: your sugar, right, okay? Yeah, and you crushed hard. Anyway.

455
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: Gone was on the last album that ever put out,

456
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: and Justin wrote it. He wrote it, and I was

457
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: listening to it, and it's such a precursor to his

458
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: solo absolutly like it is being so much more his

459
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: amazing style of white soul. Yeah, and I was like, damn,

460
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: this song is a banger. I mean, when Justin's solo album,

461
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: Oh my God, the way the girls flipped, he slayed,

462
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: and he knew he had to slay. I mean, so

463
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: he breaks up in sync to do that album, and

464
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: Lance is very naive, so very dumb, and let's just

465
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: think right now, he's not the sharpest tool in this shot,

466
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: absolutely not. And you don't have to be, you know

467
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you know, Justin had been saying

468
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: to them, you know, oh, like I think I, you know,

469
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: want to take a break or something, and they take

470
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: a break, and in between this is the space and

471
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: like and your poor Lance. He really tried to rush

472
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: his Russian space training so that they could be back

473
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: in the studio and record their fourth album Little d

474
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: Note Justin was planning on leaving the group. He poured

475
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: in his own money around four hundred thousand dollars. This is,

476
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: of course after the Lou Pearlman hay Klan. Yeah. When also,

477
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: by the way, the first check he got from Lou

478
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: Problem was twenty five thousand dollars and he just ripped

479
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: it up. I feel like they're at like such like

480
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: Ruby Foods or something like in Atlanta. But so Justin

481
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: tells the boys first. He tells him then he's going

482
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: to record his own album. And he keeps going like, hey, guys,

483
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: I dad if it'll even get released, he repeated, as

484
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: if to ease our minds. It's just something I want

485
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: to work on. It'll probably take years to get it right.

486
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: And Jac's being like, that's great for Justin, but I

487
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: think it might be the beginning of the end. And

488
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: then Lance goes, oh, come on, Justin's not going to

489
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: break up the group. It's just like, honey, yes, what

490
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: do you think's going on? It's like Justin's writing some

491
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: of the songs that they're doing. I'm like, babe, he's

492
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: kind of doing the work and like clearly is interested

493
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: in this, and you're just being like, we're just this

494
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: Christian glee club like singing. So I'll say this, I

495
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: think he was like not as involved because being closeted

496
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: like takes over the mental space, and I don't think

497
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: he was in the alma. Being closeted means that you

498
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: can't and so he was created, and so instead of that,

499
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: he was focusing on literally going to space. Yeah, I mean,

500
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: which is the metaphor. He's like, I actually can't even

501
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: like leave the country. I need to leave Earth to

502
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: come out to like be myself. So whereas like Justin

503
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: was like planning on this whole career of his that's

504
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: still like ever growing and super awesome, but also it's

505
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: like Atlanta's voice is not like so breathtaking certainly. So

506
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: then Justin reveals after he says he's going to go solo,

507
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: He's like, so basically, he goes, We're not the same

508
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: group anymore. He went on to talk some more about

509
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: the group's focus that he didn't think any of us

510
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: was operating in the best interests of the band. I

511
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: asked him when he meant by that, and he said, well,

512
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: you know when y'all did your movie is so because

513
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: Joey Faton and Liz past did a movie called On

514
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: the Line, which was about Lance like falling in love

515
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: with a girl that he like sees on the trains,

516
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: and it was basically just like a total throwaway, so bad.

517
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: It's a good movie, and Justin was just like, you

518
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: did this horror And I'm kind of a Justin on this.

519
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you did a horrible movie, Like what

520
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: do you mean, Like the group, I'm helped promoting our

521
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: albums by like creating an amazing film that's going to

522
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: be seeing in theaters by our fans. And Justin's like, no, this, yeah,

523
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: like that's a horrible movie. Also, this quote of when

524
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: he like first tells them, hey, guys, I doubt if

525
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: we'll even get released, saying that about his solo album

526
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: to them, and they're like, oh my god, no, like

527
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: it will totally get released. At this point, Justin's obviously

528
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: working with Timbaland, and it's just because he's been so humble,

529
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: being like I don't know, I'm just but knows that

530
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: the stuff he's working on is way better and it

531
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: is gonna slap and he's just like, oh, like being

532
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: a fucking liar. He he's being a liar. So I

533
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: get why Lance is upset, but it's also like Lancer

534
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: line to yourself and like there's just no way that

535
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: Justin can do what he needs to do and be

536
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: with the band, and like the boy band era is

537
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: coming to an end, and that's just the reality. Also,

538
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: I think this is true if any music group, it's

539
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: like a solo artist always has a longer career than

540
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: a group does. Yeah, I mean safe for me being

541
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: a cole Stras ringer whose solo Carey did not really

542
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: get off the ground. But like, well, actually no, I

543
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: feel like New Kids on the Block. It's like they

544
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: were stronger as a group. Then it's just like Jordan

545
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Knights one solo album. Okay, but Mark Wahlberg is like

546
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: insanely famous. Mark Walberg actually wasn't a New Kids on

547
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: the Block. So Donnie Wilberg. Okay, well, even Donnie Wilburg

548
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: has more of a blue blood jeptis career kids on

549
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: the block. I mean in rock it's different. I feel

550
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: like that actually is always worse when it's just like

551
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: the guy from Ridge against the Machines solo album. Yeah,

552
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: I think okay, Iry Styles is now having Yeah. I

553
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: think it's like pop music is much more of like

554
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: a pipeline to have your teen group to be like

555
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: sexy and fun and cute and then like go out

556
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: and become like the heartthrob you were meant to be.

557
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: And then like rock is much more just like you

558
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: have to stay in this band for like thirty years

559
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: and then like the solo album, people are always like,

560
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: actually it's fucking lame. It's fucking lame, dude. I mean

561
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: that's the thing it's like with raw rock vers pops.

562
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: So I mean solo male rock. I think it's just

563
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: kind of hard. No one wants it, literally, no one

564
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: wants it. Okay, let's talk about him being gay. So

565
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't sleep with anyone on tour, but he I

566
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: think he does sleep with girls because he says that

567
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 1: thing where he's like I went home alone almost every night,

568
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: and so basically he's on tour with in Sync and

569
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Europe before they're big in America and all the other

570
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: insinct numbers are like fucking girls, like random fans, and

571
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: he's just like going home alone, back to the hotel room,

572
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: being like, I'm fine, going to bed, like and his

573
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: mom and Justin's mom are both on tour the Christian

574
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: until one day, it's the year two thousand virginity. He's

575
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: in the city of say with me Chicago, and he

576
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: goes to a showing of Mama Mia, which my father

577
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: saw multiple times, and um, yeah, he loses his virginity

578
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: to one of the cast members of Mom Mia Dream. Honestly, um,

579
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: please someone find like a cast photo from the two

580
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: thousand and three Mama Chicogo rendition. I'm like, that is

581
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: the gayest thing. It's the most basic a thing I

582
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: could ever know. I was like to a cast member

583
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: of Mama mea in Chicago. Yeah, that happens and it

584
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: was iconic. So you know then, and he's like he's

585
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: playing out very close to the belt. I mean he's

586
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: like not going to gay bars, Like he's not really

587
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: going out great, playing close to the belt. What is

588
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: the phrase, what is I close to the heart? You're

589
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: so close close to the I think it's close to

590
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: the vests. You play your cards close to your vests,

591
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: right close to the beasts like a poke ear thing.

592
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah right, if you if you're holding your cards here,

593
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: then you're can't see them. Yeah, now I got it.

594
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe some people may hold their cards

595
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: a little lower and their belt reach and right, say,

596
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: if you're gay and about to undo a belt. So

597
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: then he starts dating this guy Jesse and Orlando that

598
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: he meets at the club. Yeah, he goes out and

599
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: then one day Cindy, his former reb executive term manager,

600
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: who's also extremely Christian. They're like driving in the car

601
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: and she's like, when are y'all gonna tell me the truth?

602
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: What are you going to come clean? Oh? Yeah, what

603
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: are you going to come clean? That's such a REBA.

604
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah team come clean? Yeah, come clean, It's come clean Fridays. Yeah. Okay,

605
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: everyone go around. I'm talking roadies, backup, singers, everyone get

606
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: over here. Okay, tell mom Ariba, what's up? Okay. So

607
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: they're at a club, one of Orlando's hottest clubs. Yeah,

608
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: Lance has had a few drinks Jesse comes over and

609
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: that's just Strokes is cheek, but like really lightly, like

610
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: in the way that you might do if you're meeting

611
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: a straight guy. I don't think anyone is interpreting. Yeah,

612
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: and Cindy sees her eagle eyes. Oh yeah, yeah, trained

613
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: forged in the fires, so she posed. She pulls up

614
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Ndias for all love. Lance's friends then like Lance and

615
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Jess and like a whole crew moved to La. The

616
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: amount of secrecy that's going on when he's trying to

617
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: keep his sexuality secret basically post in sync. So it's

618
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: just like between the years of like two thousand and

619
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: two and two thousand and eight or whatever, and it's

620
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: very like, babe, no one care. That's the thing. I

621
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: was reading this and I was like, who cares? But

622
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, we're so jaded now same

623
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: sex marriage this every person, not everyone was outspoken, Okay,

624
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: it was hard to be hashtag out like it was

625
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: a huge deal. When that People magazine cover came out.

626
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: I love that they gave him basically the same cover

627
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: as Ellen and it says, yep, I'm gay. I think

628
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: that was like anytime someone came out was like yep,

629
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm gay, like white sweater jeans, yeah, cover. So he

630
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: moves to this house with Jesse, but like Jesse, he's

631
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: like and I realized, like Jesse, like maybe things move

632
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: too fast. And then one time, Jesse and this guy

633
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: Sean at a party, I see go into a room

634
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, huh, that's weird. And then they come

635
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: out of the room and I'm like, Sean, what's up?

636
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: And then Sean just goes whatever. Yeah, so that part

637
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: was just the most normal gay story of being like, yes,

638
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: your boyfriend is like blowing some other guy at a

639
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: party at your house. Welcome to gay culture. And then

640
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: Lance was so shook because he was like I can't

641
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: believe this, like I'm so Christian. But also he was like, oh,

642
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: I can't like even like say that, like you can't

643
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: do that because no one knows we're together. And it's like, well,

644
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: either way, they're going to hook up right before they move.

645
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: When he goes, the word of my sexuality spread quickly

646
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: through or Land. Yeah. Same, He's always like Orlando was

647
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: a really small town. Things spread quick that they did

648
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: so one. So he's living in this like big fun

649
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: house with like Jesse's sister, his like Orlando club BF

650
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: sister and like her best friend and everyone so Justica

651
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: Simpson and like marrying their Christians, like hiring her best friends.

652
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: We were going to dive bars in Los Angeles. Everyone's

653
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: so used to the VIP culture that don't even cared

654
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: if I was at a dive bar or seeing Aerosmith

655
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: or Christina Aguilera imagining him like backstage at all these whatever,

656
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: like like in the Glass Closet in LA in two

657
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: thousand and four, and I feel like it's kind of

658
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: the thing that iconic clip of Brittany where she's like

659
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: with Ryan Seacrest and he says something about dating girls

660
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: and you see her face be like girls and she

661
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: like looks around like really awkwardly, being like shocked that

662
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: he's straight. And I feel like it was very that

663
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: where it's like Lance says something really weird about just like, oh, yeah,

664
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: I'm don't worry about me, Like I'll try not to

665
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: sleep with any of your female fans tonight, and like

666
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: aguilar Is like Christina holds me back, yeahsane, this huge rag.

667
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: Next up after him and Jesse breakup, he dates the

668
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: most famous relationship forgotten forgot about reikin Luckmole. Yeah, from

669
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: The Amazing Race season seven, the first like big gay

670
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: celebrities kind of yeah, and he was like buff and

671
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: buff and German, and this is one of the gayest

672
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: things I've ever heard. When he, you know, photos get

673
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: out and so he's like, Cindy's like, you gotta tell

674
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: mom and dad. You know, you gotta get ahead of

675
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: the story. So he flies his parents to la and

676
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: he introduces Reikan as his realtor so they could quote

677
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: unquote get to know him as a person. Yeah, I'm

678
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: up sessed without this is my real turf. This is

679
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: my very as a real estate professional before you start

680
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: to comprehend him as a gay man who is talking

681
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: to me. And they were like, oh, we love your

682
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: real turn. And then he's like, Mama got home, she

683
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: got anol dot com. She started doing some googling. She

684
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: saw in the rags that he was a gay guy

685
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: on this show at The Amazing Race. And it's like, yeah, Mama,

686
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: the full body Sha She called Sarah, and Sarah had

687
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: to admit, yes, Mama, they are Dayton and his mother

688
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: actually had more of a problem with his coming out,

689
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: and he said his dad is a health professional and

690
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: was obviously word that he was going to get rope,

691
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: but he said, Dad, I'm being safe. Yeah, I'm being

692
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: super safe. I mean he's very like sleeping with one

693
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: guy annually. Hello. Maybe I think maybe in his single

694
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: era he was being a hoe like all of Yeah,

695
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: Like he talks about basic four guys, but I think,

696
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's telling us about the bigger relationships. So

697
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: the other just huge part of this book. I guess

698
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: we don't I don't remember to talk about it. But

699
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: it's like he just spends so much time in Russia,

700
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: and like, I think what's also very gay about him

701
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: being in Russia is a like obsession with travel, Like

702
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: gay guys always need to be going somewhere into the

703
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: gay panic, I need to be somewhere else. There's this

704
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: kind of masculinity wrapped up in it, this performance of masculinity.

705
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: One of the last lines of the book, he's like,

706
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: I hope this book helps like boys and girls, and

707
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: he says kind of like in a big sentence, like yeah,

708
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: you actually can be masculine and a gay guy. I mean,

709
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: he came out of the era just like thinks that

710
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: he's so masked because he does have an extreme example

711
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: of gay face. I think, oh, the forehead, not just

712
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: the forehead, but the eyebrows. There's a roundness to the face.

713
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: It's it's actually kind of hard to pinpoint because it's

714
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: not all of the classic things with gay face where

715
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm not like, it's not just oh huge. I think

716
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: he has spiky, frosted tips that he like still does

717
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: and like the hair. There's something about the thinness of

718
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: the brown line. And then there is a gumminess to

719
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: the smile. I want to say, I mean, look at it.

720
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: It's well, he's art one. He gets his eyebrows like

721
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: they're plucked under. Yes, it's the lips are soft. Yes,

722
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of space between the lips and

723
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: the notes big, a large upper lip distance. Yeah, yep,

724
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: I agree. And then it's like a little smile that's

725
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: almost it's like Christian and gay at the same time.

726
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a softness, there's like some sort

727
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: of inflation to it that just feels, oh, okay, you're

728
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: getting too worked up over there. Yeah I am. It's

729
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: turning me on. Yeah, I know, I don't know what's

730
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: happening to you over there, and that in that red

731
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: seat will have to check it for room raiders stays

732
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: after this. Ultimately, I think it's funny that when he

733
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: first meets Jesse, he's like, I love that he seemed

734
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of like casual and like masculine and like not

735
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: trying too hard. And I'm sure like Jesse was wearing

736
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: like the tightest most Diesel bootcut jeans and just like

737
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: all every photo and everyone was like being such an

738
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: amazing like Orlando Jim Vaga. But his husband now he

739
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: cood with his hubs and like his hubs is definitely

740
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: little more and they have yeah, and then I'm sure

741
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: they paid up pretty penny form and I don't know

742
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: if they honestly had a fun back and forth. And

743
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: like Lance was talking about how like he was spending

744
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: so much time or the weekend like trying to put

745
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: together like all the kids toys from like Christmas. Wow,

746
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: it's hilarious and relationful. Sorry for us parents out there,

747
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: you can really relate. Kids toys aren't crazy, ikea anyone

748
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: their vibe though, it was just like his whole thing

749
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: is so ellen and like late nineties of just being

750
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: like our love is no different from a straight couples

751
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: that's like his whole thing, just being like, we are monogamous, yea, parties,

752
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: we have children, our children call his daddy, we go

753
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: to church. Yea. Love is love, and it's the same love,

754
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: exact same love. Anyway, it's gay to go to Russia

755
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: for like six months and then not even go in space.

756
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: And then he's like, yeah, one time Tom Hanks came

757
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: to visit and we all hung out at Chep's Bar,

758
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: which is a bar on the NASA space made to

759
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: recreate even like American bars. No one's even lamer about

760
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: that anecdote is that he wasn't even there. He was

761
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: just describing the inception of chear, just being like, and

762
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: when they invented Chep's Bar, Tom Hanks came and You're

763
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: just like, this isn't even your story, Lance, This is

764
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: a story from movie magazine. So honestly, I saw. I

765
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: googled Chep's Bar iconic because looks pretty dope. A bar

766
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: in the basement of the like NASA sub area at

767
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: the Russian facility outside of Moscow, my destination bachelor party there.

768
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: It's got on my segments. What does she eat, what

769
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: does she wear? What does she wear? She's still just

770
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: like tight Henley a little little buttons. Buttons you need

771
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: a magnifying class. Yeah for her literally tears buttons on

772
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: the planet. And then the jeans are like less diesel,

773
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 1: but like still being diesel. Yeah. I mean he's very

774
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: like nord Storm Frum, Yeah, nord Storm to the boots.

775
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I think he's has like four pairs of Stan Smiths.

776
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: He's very like Ryan C. Chris for Macy's. It's like

777
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: and he's brain like suits and he's like trying to

778
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: do on air and stuff all the time. I actually

779
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: watched he hosted this version of The Bachelor that was gay.

780
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: That was so funny. This is why maybe I agree

781
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: with you that his pockets could be funny, because I

782
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: could tell that he did think it was like insanely stupid,

783
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: and he was like laughing at all these idiots on

784
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: the show. He's friends with Kathy Griffin. Well, in the acknowledgement,

785
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: of course he thanks Kathy Griffin. I was, oh, I

786
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: remember seeing the applicate is the first person he thanks

787
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: in the acknowed which number one. I do remember him

788
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: seeing him on an episode of My Life and the Dealist,

789
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Kathy Griffins reality show and like again, he's in just

790
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: like the most oh five like tight v neck and

791
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: like hemp necklace, and it's just kind of he's being

792
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: kind of quiet and not being fabulous, but still just

793
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, we love Kathy. I mean, he's definitely

794
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: not the funniest person out like Kathy's big gay hang,

795
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: but he's like he reminds me of some gay guys

796
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know who are. You know, they're

797
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: they're funny, but they're there and they're laughing at the

798
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: right things. Gay guys who aren't there celebrate gay guys

799
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: who literally are there, literally present. Okay, do you think

800
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: that he's just classic expensive my pants around the house

801
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, joggers like lu lu Lahmann that he either

802
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: him or his husband calls themself a fashion bug and

803
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: like is always buying like a new Valentino sneaker that's

804
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: so boring, And then the other one's just being like,

805
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I think Lance Bass is the

806
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: fashion bug. The husband is like the top is not

807
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: the fashion bug. But they're also so tied commercial to

808
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: me when I picture their life, like it's like tons

809
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: of like little shorts and like laundry basket and they're

810
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: sitting there folding and they're just like before pods, they're

811
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: obsessed with our laundry room was a mess. They're obsessed

812
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: with mirroring heterosexuality. So they're just being like, yeah, it's

813
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: so crazy with our like two children, we're constantly doing

814
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: so much laundy, like Anna bath and Christobal. Yeah, and

815
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: like these like new electric washers like saved us thirty minutes,

816
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: which saves us actually a full day, and with that day,

817
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: we're taking our kids to Disney. Their house. To me,

818
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: I feel like it's also it's like so California basic.

819
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't think it's that big because

820
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: I I don't think it's that rich. No, Like I

821
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: kind of assumed he had a solo album in there,

822
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like searching through Spotify. He had an album

823
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: that came out during the Golden age of recording, like

824
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: one of the last few albums that made like actually

825
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: sold acastin records. So it's like, maybe you are still

826
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: getting royalties off that tripple sidebar, he blames the fact

827
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: that his movie on the line that Justin hated not

828
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: doing well on nine to eleven. Oh, I was like babe.

829
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, it was totally over. There was

830
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: no way we could promote it adequately. And it's like, yep,

831
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: now we're in a war, and it's just like I

832
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: don't think Iraq or nine to eleven. I think it's

833
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: still would have bombed. Wow. Freda back to his house.

834
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: His house is boring and so west. Um what does

835
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: he eat? Oh California pizza. Yeah. Again, I think it's

836
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: like this kind of like family drag that they're doing.

837
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: I think he's cooking healthy dinners for the kids, Like

838
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to wean them off three sixty

839
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: five from the South and he was like raised in

840
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: like he came of Asian Orlando. Like, I think he

841
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: loves a huge like indoor outdoor space. He loves like

842
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: plaza eating like it's so plausa eating. Like Also, like,

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Speaker 1: isn't Disney World's whole thing? Like round the World? God,

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Speaker 1: your child is so interesting and different because you like

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Speaker 1: don't even know what apicad is that's iconic, like but

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Speaker 1: you know it's around the world stations. So yeah, I

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00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: mean absolutely, which is wrapped to dumplings. Yeah, he's just

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Speaker 1: like um. Sometimes, like Trevor wants to get a Mandarin

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Speaker 1: duck crap, but I want to get pasta. I'll prevari

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Speaker 1: kids actually want Mexican and they're getting their big like

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Speaker 1: aluminum with the table tags and like yeah, Plaza eating,

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Speaker 1: Plaza eating. Okay. Can I just say one thing? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so who are you in the book? Obviously you're lou Pearlman,

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00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: but like after he loses like seventy five pounds in prison,

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Speaker 1: but before he dies of cardiac or breast, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm Sean. I think I'm blowing his boyfriend into partying

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Speaker 1: and being like what is like what did you guys

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00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: doing there? And you're going whatever. Yeah, um, here's a

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00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: question for you about how do they live. Do you

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00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: think they're family bed? Yeah, like we're all getting into

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Speaker 1: a big bad and watching TV. Yeah, oh of course

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00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: they say that. Yeah, they're like, Oh, I think it's

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00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: more that they have like I think they have like

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Speaker 1: one of those couches, were like it's a bed and

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Speaker 1: like it has like an island that's like in the

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Speaker 1: couch or the couches an island you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, where the ottoman is like shaped like the

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Speaker 1: couch and perfectly fits in and there's a chez built

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00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: into the couch. Yeah, I think they have that. But

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00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: then also, like when daddies have friends over, I think

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Speaker 1: they have a sexier couch. Oh, and there's like a

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00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: separate like drag race viewing room. Yeah, and I feel

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00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: like they are so Jonathan Adler very having a drag

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00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: race room and they're like nine of our best friends

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00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: come over and yeah, and there's like a bread candle

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00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: and they're ordering Drizzly from Asa and they're they're getting

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00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: like Humus cocktails for their seven other days, but they're

878
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: being like, oh none for me tonight, like christa bath.

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00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: I think like Lances mixing up his favorite Margarita's but

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00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: like no one really loves them, but like no one

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00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: wants to tell him that. His husband's like, oh, these

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00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: were so good made, and the lighting is so bright, yeah,

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00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: right to night and it's so much like overhead like

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Speaker 1: um recess lighting. And then after like one margarita and

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00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my god, lands or killing me

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00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: with this mark, and he's like do you want another one?

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00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: They're like oh, I'm okay. No, Like they're like, oh,

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00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: also if I have to do with these, like can

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00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 1: I just say one more thing about how this book

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00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: is actually so boring, and this will lead me into

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00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: my rating of the book. The story he tells about

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00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: when he gets to carry the Olympic torch and he's like,

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Speaker 1: this was the best moment of my life that also

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00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: was so gay and actually remind me of you. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: you just being like my life. Goals to carry the

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Speaker 1: torch and naugas hockey, but then he says it wait

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00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: eight pounds including fuel. I was the last runner on

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00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: this leg of the trail and was to stop in

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Speaker 1: front of a boot store where the media was gathered

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00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: and I would light the caldron. The flame was getting

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00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: very heavy. I was glad to see the boot place

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00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: coming into view, but the truck in front of us,

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00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: carrying the media, continued to drive and drive. The boot

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Speaker 1: store came and went. I had no clue what was

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Speaker 1: going on. That's it. That's the end of the story,

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00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: was that they were walking past a boot store while

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00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: holding the flame. If nothing ever happens, which brings me

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Speaker 1: to my rating of one point six Yeah used casting

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Speaker 1: couches in Orlando out of five. This book actually is

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Speaker 1: really good if you're learning how to read. I want

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00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: to update like it should be like sold as like

912
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: a recommended age maybe ten to twelve, you know, and

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Speaker 1: just something for practice. I give this book one Mandarin

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Speaker 1: duck Rab out of five. I was just like the

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Speaker 1: closest thing to tea is at the end where he

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Speaker 1: says like, I'm sad that Justin and I aren't as

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Speaker 1: close as we used to be because like we're both

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Speaker 1: from the South, and then two pages later in the acknowledgements,

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Speaker 1: he goes, I want to thank Justin. I'm still your

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Speaker 1: biggest fan. After the entire book, the only person he

921
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Speaker 1: drags is Justin. He's always just like, well, here's the

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00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: thing about Justin, Brittany, Justin was always gonna love Justin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was Justin cared about his career. So yeah, No,

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00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: it's clearly tense. And yet the thinking of Justin and

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00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: the acknowledgement, well he has to because kind of his

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Speaker 1: career is still like and the way also like Justin

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00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: never read does not feel like they got I feel

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Speaker 1: like People Magazine is like biannually trying to reach out

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Speaker 1: to Justin for quote, what do you think of Lance

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00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: coming out? Do you support Lance joining the Outspoken network

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Speaker 1: on High Heart and like Justin is just being like,

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Speaker 1: does not comment, not getting back for something. I think

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Speaker 1: he gave one comment when Lance came out right and

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Speaker 1: like I support support and I love all my brothers

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Speaker 1: from Inn saying forever. Yeah, like that's beautiful. Anyway, if

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Speaker 1: you want to learn how to read, read this book

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Speaker 1: or good for yet um English as a second language.

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