1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. We're back home after what 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: was just another epic birthday week. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: You have made me learn to celebrate birthdays, babe, guys. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: Chris Harrison, he says birthday week. He really believes in 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: a birthday month for people. In this case it was himself. 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: It was his birthday, so a belated happy birthday. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: It forced me to learn how to celebrate birthdays. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: No, I look, my birthday was always near Thanksgiving and 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: so it kind of got thrown in with Thanksgiving by 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: my family. Not that they didn't, I mean, my parents 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: gave me great birthdays. But you really make a birthday 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: and occasion your family's into that, and it really gives 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: you an opportunity to celebrate the people you love. And 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: I always walk away from when we do everybody in 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: our family's birthdays with such a heartwarming feeling because in 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: a very fast paced world, it's really nice to take 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: a minute to celebrate people. And we celebrated Chris down 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 2: in Mexico with some friends, which is why my voice 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: is gone again. I'm going to make you give me 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: some lessons on how. 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: To yell you do. I used to have the same 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: problem and I had to I had to go to 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: a voice coding. 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: I know we talked about this, but I'm just going 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: to take the lessons from you. 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: I probably got the appreciation for birthdays, definitely from my 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: mom and from my mom's mom, my grandmother. This is 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: on the Jewish side of my family, and I don't 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: know if maybe it is a Jewish thing of how 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: we really appreciate and celebrate another trip around the sun, 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: as we like to say. But my grandmother, who lived 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: to the ripe old age of ninety nine and a 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: half years old, and my mom also bestowed upon me 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: how just cherished it is to be written in the 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: book of life for another year. And so I have 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: taken that to my kids, and hopefully I give that 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: to you. But one of the things I love, and 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: you are really good about this too. When we get together, 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the revelrie and we have a good time. But there 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: was kind of a saying when I grew up, and 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: love is spoken here. There's a lot of love in 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: the room, and we use that time when we're together 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: to have a great time and goof around. But we 46 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: talk a lot about why we love each other, and 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: we talk about that to our friends, and when we're 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: sitting at dinner, we raise a glass and we talk 49 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: about what we appreciate about each other. And I really 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: like and love that, you know, I. 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Was thinking that, I think we've kind of ironed out 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: how to do a trip now. I've learned this over 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: the past couple of years together because we've done lots 54 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: of trips with our friends, and there is actually sort 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: of I have a few tips on the right order 56 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: of things. We usually do no more than three nights. 57 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't be drinking and partying and having 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: like it's like vague. She can really only be there 59 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: for about a weekend and then your body just starts 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: shutting down in protest. But night one, everybody's going to 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: come in hot, they're excited, So this is not the 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: time for sentiment. Night one is get there, greet everybody 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: with a margarita. You're just having on your being silly 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: night too. Day two like recoop a little bit. You 65 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: hang by the beach, you chill, you start to get 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: in conversations, catching up with people, and then day three, 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: you can really kind of get crazy again during the day, 68 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: but then on the night, that's when you slow it 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: down a little bit and you get a little sentimental. 70 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: You've now had a few days together, You've caught up 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: on each other's lives, and you can reflect. And this 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: is usually when we do a big dinner and kind 73 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: of go around the table, and if it's someone's birthday, 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: like it was yours, everybody might give a little toast, 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: which I mean we had. I think four of us cried. 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Well it is, including a couple of male friends, which 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: was great. 78 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and I urge you especially to start 79 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: this at a young age. I am a little bit 80 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: older now. Obviously I got to enjoy another birthday. I'm 81 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: fifty two now. And the older you get, you will 82 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: start going to funerals and you will wish you had 83 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: a moment where you could have told that person how 84 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: much you loved them, what an impression they made on 85 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: your life. And so what I urge you to do 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: is have those moments at Thanksgiving, at Christmas, at Hanukkah, 87 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: at whatever, at a birthday. Do it now together when 88 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: everybody can hear it and enjoy it and laugh and 89 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: cry together instead of you're giving the eulogy. And I 90 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: know that may sound a little depressing, but I hope 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: you can say that to the people you love. And 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: so that's why I like that we take that moment 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: and I urge you to do the same when you're 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: at a great event with a bunch of people, when 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: you look around the table and you're like, these are 96 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: my people. These are the people that move me, that 97 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: get me up in the morning, that help me make 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: it through the day. Say that. Use those words and 99 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: put it out there. Don't hold it in. You will 100 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: regret not saying it. Well. 101 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm hoping everybody at home is doing well. I was 102 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: really looking forward to doing this podcast. I'm like, I 103 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: miss talking to everybody. I hope everyone who's listening. 104 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Is milling well. I miss having these deep conversations. 105 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Because the last weekend was just a bunch of tequila. 106 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: And by the way we did before we move on 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: to our first headline of the day, I caught a 108 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: little shade and I I do like that people are 109 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: listening and they will fire off their opinions. But it 110 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: was really interesting. I got this one opinion sent to 111 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: me disappointing that you were falling victim to giving this 112 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: person their fifteen minutes of fame. This goes back to 113 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: the interview I did in a prior podcast to the 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: woman that took the selfie with Miranda Lambert, and Miranda 115 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: Lambert shut her down. And this is a woman. It 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: was the local woman in Vegas. If you didn't listen 117 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: to the podcast, you can go back and listen to 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: the prior ones. But I'll just give you the little 119 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: nutshell here. She was the one with her five or 120 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: six girlfriends. They paid for the VIP section, they were 121 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: taking their photo and it was a little disruptive and 122 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: Miranda Lambert publicly shame them and shut it down. And 123 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I didn't give this woman her fifteen 124 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: minutes of fame to get famous, or to agree with 125 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: her or disagree with her. What we like to do 126 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: as journalists is give someone their say, their day in court, 127 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: a chance to speak. I feel like as an interviewer, 128 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: and this is where you can disagree with me. I 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: questioned her. I asked her some pretty pointed questions. Do 130 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: you regret this, do you think you were in the wrong? 131 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Would you do this again now? If you don't like 132 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: what she has to say, that's on her, that's on you. 133 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: And that's how I felt when I was hosting The Bachelor. 134 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: When I put you in the hot seat, I'm going 135 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: to give you the chance to redeem or hang yourself. 136 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: It's totally up to you. It's my job just to 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: ask the tough questions and be honest. So if you 138 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: go back, hopefully you will see I wasn't taking a side. 139 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: I didn't say Miranda Lambert was wrong. I didn't say 140 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: that this woman was wrong. That's not up to me. 141 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: I just want to just pose all sides. So there 142 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: we go. 143 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's I might take a side about a few 144 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 2: things we're going to say today. 145 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: We definitely will. 146 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're in the interview journalist's hat and then sometimes 147 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: you're in the opinionated commentator hat. 148 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: That is what can be confusing about me. 149 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: But I love the comments, by the way, I really 150 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: enjoy I don't take offense to them. I enjoy them. 151 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: If you don't enjoy debate, this probably isn't the forum 152 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: for you, because Lauren and I love to debate. Headline 153 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: number one. 154 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, you may have heard about Ariana Grande 155 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: getting divorced from her husband, and then the news dropping 156 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: very quickly after their split, news that she is allegedly dating, 157 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: according to multiple outlets, one of her co stars in 158 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: the new movie version of the musical Wicked. So the 159 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: plot thickens even more because it turns out that guy, 160 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: her co star, is separated from his wife. 161 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Coincidence, total coincidence. 162 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: And now his wife as I could not believe this 163 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: spoken out on the record, this isn't source reporting, This 164 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: isn't sources say. She spoke to The New York Post 165 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: and she said that her family is quote collateral damage 166 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: of this new relationship between her husband, Ethan Slater and 167 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Ariana Grande. She told page six, quote, Arianna's the story 168 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: really not a girls girl. My family is just collateral damage. 169 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: So that really throws a wrench in I think probably 170 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: you know the room, the story was gonna be, well, 171 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: him and his wife had been, you know, separated for 172 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: a couple months, and she arian and Dalton had been 173 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: separated for a couple months, and now. 174 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: They're just co stars. You fall in love. 175 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: But his wife is being pretty uh, pretty definitive here 176 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: in saying, uh, Arianna's not a girls girl. 177 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: This is a poor man's Mister and Missus Smith. 178 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 3: Oh, you mean Brad Pitt and Angelina Joel. 179 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: This is Brad Pitt and Angelina, Joe Lee and what 180 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: happened to Jennifer Aniston. This is a very and there's 181 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: a lot of levels to this. We'll start with movie sets. 182 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: Movie sets is the Hollywood version of summer camp. You know, 183 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: when you went to summer camp and you're in this 184 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: weird world and all of a sudden you end up 185 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: making out with that guy or girl that you probably 186 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: never would have made out with or they made out 187 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: with you and you never would have had that shot. 188 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: You get back to regular life in school and you 189 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: break up because you're like, what were we doing? Right? 190 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: We had camp goggles on? 191 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: That is a movie set. You are, you know, shooting Wicked. 192 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: You're shooting Mister and Missus Smith. You're on set. 193 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: You're together all the time. 194 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: You spend so much time again, and let me add on, 195 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: you know, as a theater kid, this is what we 196 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: call a showmance. Yes, and what that means is a 197 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: relationship that develops just during the time that you are 198 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: doing the show, the play, the movie, whatever it is. 199 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: Because It's more than just summer camp in Hollywood. It's 200 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: more than just look. I know, people get close in 201 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: all kinds of work settings. Maybe two people do a 202 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: project together for a while and they get close and 203 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: it's only temporary and they look back and say, what 204 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: were we thinking? But when you're doing a movie with 205 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: someone or a play, you are cast because of chemistry, right, 206 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: So you are literally put together to be intimately closely 207 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: working with people who you have chemistry with. 208 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: This is hard on a relationship. 209 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: It's hard on a marriage if your person's out there 210 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: being cast with and having romantic scenes with someone they 211 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: have chemistry with. 212 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: If you've never seen the movie, or go back and 213 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: rewatch it. Watch the chemistry with Brad Pitt and Angelina 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Joe Lee. It smells like sex. Yeah, I mean the 215 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: chemistry is palpable and it's a good movie because of that. 216 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Jennifer Aniston. But you educated me on the 217 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: fact that this is also maybe not something new for Ariana. Well, 218 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: she's a track record. 219 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: She has a song in one of the lyrics, famous 220 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: lyrics of a song that I love is break up 221 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: with your girlfriend because I'm bored, which is not reflecting 222 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: well now, and it's not reflecting well. 223 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: And look, I would. 224 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: There's many layers to the truth, and maybe these two 225 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: were separated, and maybe his wife is really devastated by 226 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: the breakup. But then you have to ask yourself, Okay, 227 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: but why did they separate when he's filming the movie 228 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: and they've only been separated two months, he's already dating 229 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: someone else, and they, I should add, have an infant child. 230 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: So, bro, it is not a good look this guy, Ethan, 231 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: It is. 232 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: A very bad look that you are dating, even if 233 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: you and your wife really were broken up before you 234 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: ever started dating Ariana. You know, this also raises the 235 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 2: question of how quickly do you move on You've got 236 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: an infant at home, a baby, You and your wife 237 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: have just split up, and they were high school sweethearts, 238 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: they've been together for years. You don't I don't think 239 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: you start dating someone a couple months in like like just. 240 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: At the very time, at the very least. This dude 241 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: is epically selfish, that's the that's the best. He is 242 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: is unbelievably selfish as a human being and as a father. 243 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: That's the start. My guess is, obviously, if there's smoke 244 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: in this case, there is a burning fire, and Arianna, 245 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: we got to talk about your choices in men. 246 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: You know, I'm really looking at it going I think 247 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: she's beautiful. She's so talented. She seems like an incredibly 248 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: smart business woman. She's built a makeup brand. She's got 249 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of hit records. 250 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: What a talent. And I look at the guys she's dated. 251 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 3: This even guy, this is your co star. 252 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: He's career wise a million levels below her. He is 253 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: just out of a marriage, he's got a kid at home. 254 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Here's the way I look at it, and correct me 255 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Chew toys. There are certain people that 256 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: date a chew toy, meaning you know how a dog 257 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: will just sit in the corner and chew on something 258 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: and then just get bored with it and leave. That 259 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: seems to be the track record that Arianna follows. She 260 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: gets these lesser than men who are not equal or 261 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: better than her. That's who you should be surrounding yourself 262 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: with in life as a friend or a significant other. 263 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: She gets these chew toys and she gets bored with them, 264 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: and she'll move on to the next movie set, or 265 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: the next song, or the next whatever. This guy is 266 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: going to aid like milk. 267 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: Well with there, I feel like an idiot, but I 268 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: just realized what you mean by that. And also I keep. 269 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Thinking quickly and it'll get stale. 270 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: And honestly, he looks like milk. He's so pale. 271 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: And now I'm just being mean, but it's funny. So 272 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: the husband she was with at Dalton Gomez another one, 273 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: he's like, I think he's a. 274 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: Real estate agent. It's I don't. 275 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: I think it's very difficult to have a successful relationship. 276 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: I would give anybody, including Ariana, this advice when someone 277 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: is so far out of your league, frankly out of 278 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: your realm, and by that I mean, in this case, 279 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: lesser than like, these guys are millions of miles below 280 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: her career wise, they are millions of miles apart from 281 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: her fame wise. 282 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: They're not going to keep up with her. It's not 283 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: going to work out. 284 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: And in this case, it's not a great look because 285 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: you've got a wife and mother saying her family was 286 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: collateral damage. 287 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: And when it comes to a relationship and how we 288 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: relate this to our own lives, it's not that you 289 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: need to marry or be with someone that is the 290 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: same station in the same place as you. It's but 291 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: I think it is important to be reflective of that 292 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: of when you are dating someone, ask yourself those tough questions, 293 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: Why what do they bring to the table? What are 294 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: they equal or better than me? At? 295 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: So? 296 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: How are they a value add to my life? And 297 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: vice versa? How am I a value add to them? 298 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: How are we equal partners in searching? 299 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: Right? 300 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: Are you have to both add to and expand each 301 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: other's worlds in some way? Well, and there's another story 302 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: that begs many similar questions, which I want to get into. 303 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: I love when I get to talk about housewives. Let 304 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: me give you the brief friend down. Real Housewives of 305 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: Miami star named Lisa. Her husband. It comes out on 306 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: the most recent season of the show comes out on 307 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: the show that he's cheating on her. He's having an 308 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: affair with a woman who's thirty years younger than him 309 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: and Lisa and Lenny they've got two kids, two young kids. 310 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: She's totally blindsided and devastated by this. Now, just a 311 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: matter of months later, they are still married. He proposes 312 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: to the mistress. 313 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: They are engaged, and I love the next step though. 314 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: Lisa's response is so deliciously. I don't savage. 315 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: The genius is in the subtlety. 316 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: She posts on Instagram and says, congratulations to my husband 317 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: and his mistress on their engagement. Congratulations to my husband 318 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: on his engagement is so brilliant because she doesn't say 319 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: anything mean, but it's such a takedown and so weird. 320 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Think she could have just said you're such a dick right. Instead, 321 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: she said the exact same thing in that one the 322 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: wording perfect. 323 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Sentence, congratulations to my husband on his engagement. 324 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: You might be the biggest d bag in the country. 325 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the Bravo fans are coming for him. A 326 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: lot of people are up in arms about this ariana 327 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: grande situation, and it begs the question for sure, when 328 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: is it okay to start dating? And let's take it 329 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: to the next level now that we've added this second story, 330 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: when is it okay to get engaged or married again 331 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: when you are divorced or in the process of getting 332 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: divorced or separated. 333 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: I have two very strong opinions on this number. One 334 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: having been through very extreme situations where very good friends 335 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: of mine have lost their significant others where there is 336 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: a death. These two people lost their wives. One was 337 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: a long battle with cancer. The other one was a 338 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: short battle with cancer unfortunately, and both of these men 339 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: rebounded quickly, and in our little social circle, they were 340 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: very much judged, and I found it very interesting and 341 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: they both fought against that and said, look, you know 342 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: what's important to me and my kids right now, and 343 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: so a lot of people had really strong opinions, and 344 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: I just kind of sat back to watch it all 345 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: play out. The flip side of that is on a 346 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: more kind of superficial level, where there's cheating involved. Obviously 347 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: you're having that is very different to me. 348 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: I talked about this a lot with my mom because 349 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: you know, we lost my dad obviously, and there's a 350 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: lot of factors there, because if someone's been sick for 351 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: a long time, I do think you're grieving that person 352 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: even while they're alive. Really like you're thinking about the 353 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: loss a lot, and you're starting to go through that process. Interestingly, 354 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: men start dating again more quickly than women after. 355 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: Loss one because we are not equipped to raise kids 356 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: by ourselves, and even as as much of a strong 357 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: dad as I would like to, that is usually the case. 358 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: And both of these men had kids, had young kids. 359 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I see it from that perspective, and there's 360 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: actually something. I think there's a good intention in trying 361 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: to find a partner to help you raise your kids. 362 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: You want your kids to be loved. Also, you got 363 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: to think about your kids. How are they processing that loss? 364 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: I mean you, you know, there's so much to think about. 365 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: Kids at different ages can be different. So I certainly 366 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: try not. I definitely judge less from a place of loss. 367 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I would like to separate these topics. 368 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: So if you're listening and you've dealt with that, I 369 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: would say, let's put that in a different basket altogether. 370 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: But I think, no matter what, you know, you've got 371 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: to be careful. You're not making rash decisions when your 372 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: brain's in a place of loss or grief. And that 373 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: might mean a divorce, and you don't rush into anything. 374 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: But I was really trying to think about what the 375 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: barometer is. I certainly think it doesn't look great if 376 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: you get engaged while you're still legally married. 377 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: I think we can all agree on this one for sure, 378 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: is not this does not wan. 379 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: I also have a friend, though, who is trying to 380 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: get divorced from her husband for more than twelve years. Yeah, 381 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: he wouldn't let her get divorced. So what do you think, 382 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: what's your barometer as that? 383 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look at it. Would you have a 384 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: problem if Brad Pitt. I hate to go back to them, 385 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: but would you have a problem if Brad Pitt and 386 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Angelina Joli got engaged and I guess they can't get 387 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: married because they're still married because their divorce has been. 388 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: Going on like six seven years at this point. 389 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: This entire century. Yeah, I mean it's gotten so ridiculous 390 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: at this point. So either are those extreme situations. But 391 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: I think what we're talking about is basically people who 392 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: barely have their foot out the door, leaving a family, 393 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: leaving young kids. They have so many responsibilities that they're 394 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: running from, and that's exactly what they're doing, and they 395 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: just find something that's easier. 396 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: Here's what blows my mind about the guy from the 397 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: Real Housewife situation. He publicly posts about this engagement, this 398 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: proposal on Instagram. They shared pictures of the proposal on 399 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: top of a cliff somewhere. 400 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: Dude, do you think people are gonna praise you? 401 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Want? Like? 402 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: You realize you look like a jerk. So that's just 403 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: so clueless to me. At least I'll give Arian and 404 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: this Ethan guy credit. They weren't stepping out on red 405 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: carpets together yet it kind of came out through probably 406 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: the rumor mill on set. 407 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: You can't really hide your dating. 408 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: But this guy's posting the pictures of the proposal. 409 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Come on, do you? And this may sound terrible, so 410 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: but I'm going to say it publicly in front of 411 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: all of you. Do you have a little I don't know, admiration, 412 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: maybe a little jealousy for people that can live their 413 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: life so a f and just don't care. They're so 414 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: ignorant that they they have such ignorant bliss, like this 415 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: guy can be such a dick and do such a 416 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: stupid thing and put it out to the world and 417 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: expect a pat on the back and just not see 418 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: at all what's going on in the world. I cannot 419 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: see in the rear view mirror that there is such 420 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: carnage behind him. He's just looking into the sunset, going, man, 421 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: how great is this? I'm so in love. I don't 422 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: see my broken family, my kids that are now going 423 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: to be in therapy for the next twenty years, how 424 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: many relationships I just screwed up, like look at us, 425 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: Like how happy I am in this one brief moment, 426 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Like part of me because I know that one of 427 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: my deficiencies in life is that I care way too 428 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: much what other people think. I've gotten better at it, 429 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: but part of me goes man for just a moment, 430 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: I wish to be. 431 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: Free, to be that, just to be atop that cliff, 432 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: posting those photos. 433 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Jumping off that cliff like a moron without a parachute. 434 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: Gosh, I mean yeah, because everybody knows they add an affair. 435 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: I guess he's just leaning in. 436 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: He's leaning right into it, and he's really trying has 437 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: tried to convince people. His own His mother, by the way, 438 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: commented on the Instagram. This guy Lenny's mother commented, my, gosh, 439 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: I really hope that you will have, you know, a 440 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: happy marriage and this woman will like love and appreciate you, 441 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: unlike your first wife. 442 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: Oh wow, this is about our past daughter in law 443 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: and the mother of her grandchildren. 444 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: Wow, it's not great, So I'm sure this one's gonna last. 445 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: What do you think when how do you know when 446 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: it's okay after a marriage? You know, say you're separated, 447 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: you've broken up. How do you know when it's okay 448 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: to start dating? 449 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: The problem is you don't. 450 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is I've been racking my brain. 451 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't have a good barometer. 452 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: You can't because there is a sliding scale for everybody 453 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: and it just has to be right for you. And 454 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: to a certain degree, I'm not defending these people, but 455 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: to a certain degree. When I go back to my 456 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: friends and I sat down and asked one of them, 457 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: we had a long talk about this because then I 458 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: went through my divorce and what we realized is that 459 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: people who lose somebody and then you lose somebody in 460 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: a divorce is very different heartache, very different, but sometimes 461 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: you can grieve in very similar ways. But what I 462 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: realized is you have to have a certain amount of 463 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you also got to 464 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: look out for yourself. You do have to be a 465 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: little selfish. You can't always listen to everybody at church 466 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: or in your social group or on social media because 467 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: they don't know. They also don't have any idea what's 468 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: going on in your day to day life. They don't 469 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: know the truth. Nobody knew the truth about my divorce. 470 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm going through. You don't know 471 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: what really happened. You never will. You don't know my 472 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: relationship with my kids. You don't know what's going on. 473 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: And so at the end of the day, that's the 474 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: reason you can't have this two week, three week, one month, 475 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: one year exactly date, because there is no right answer, 476 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: because it's different for everybody. You don't know, as you 477 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: said very astutely, and I guess I should have finished 478 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: that thought when I said, my friend lost somebody after 479 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: a long period of time, they had grief, they had 480 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: grieved for over twenty years. While this, he watched the 481 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: woman he loved die and as soon as she died. 482 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word relief, but I 483 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: think for people who have done this, they understand that 484 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: they they have let go of this and it is 485 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: a heavy weight that has been lifted upon them and 486 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: now they they're ready to move on and so and God, 487 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: until you walk in those shoes, you have no idea. 488 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: Well, by the way, that always kind of bothers me 489 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: when people who like I think that the person who 490 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: you're right, you don't know what kind of conversations someone 491 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: in their spouse who passed have had and that spouse 492 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: would want that person to be happy. They'd want them 493 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: to be Like I firmly believe if you are ill 494 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: and you're you know your terminal, all I would ever 495 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: say to my partner is I want you to continue 496 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: life and to be happy. I don't want you to 497 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: be stuck in this grief of me. Why would you 498 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: want that? I do think. I think there are maybe 499 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: three things to consider. One thing to yourself if you're 500 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: going to start dating, especially if you're gonna get engaged 501 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: while still married. Have I considered the feelings of my ex? 502 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: Have I tried to be thoughtful of them? And that's 503 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: not always easy. Some people are in situations where your 504 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: ex is very toxic and you're never going to make 505 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: that person happy. 506 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: But have you tried? 507 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: Two? 508 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: If you have kids, how will your kids feel about this? 509 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: And how will they feel about it one day? Will 510 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: you be able to look back and explain it to 511 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: them and justify it and feel good about the decisions 512 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: you made? And I think three, do you feel like 513 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: you feel good about the decisions you made? Like, like 514 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: you said, you kind of have to protect yourself at 515 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: the end of the day. Can you put your head 516 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: on the pillow at night and say I think I 517 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: did the right thing here. I feel good about this, 518 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: I feel okay about this, And well, then you're gonna 519 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: look back and say I made the best decision I 520 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: could with the information. 521 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: I had at the time, and that's all you can 522 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: ever do it again. 523 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I recommend proposing to your mistress while 524 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: still married to your wife. 525 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: But hey, and you know, I hate I feel like 526 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: we're on this ride today. We're divorced and breakups or whatever. 527 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: But there was another Housewives situation where doctor Paul Nassef 528 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: was saying that the Housewives and being on that led 529 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: to the demise of his marriage. 530 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Paul Nassa formally on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills 531 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: at the time married to Adrienne maloof This was on 532 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: the earlier seasons of the show. They got divorced, they 533 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: split up while on the show, and then he's gone 534 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: on to be unbotched. And I was interested in this 535 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: because it's a question I used to ask of the 536 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: housewives a lot when I would interview them. And you 537 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: just spoke to Vicki Gunwilson. Actually, the Real Housewives of 538 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: Orange County she was married when she first started the 539 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: show to Don and didn't she tell you she thought 540 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: if they hadn't been on the show, they would have 541 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: stayed married. 542 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, whether that's good or bad, you know, 543 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: it was beside the point like if if it you 544 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean is sometimes it will just speed 545 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: up the process that's already happening. 546 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: Well, so that was interesting because she said she thought 547 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: they might stay married. Paul actually said, and I think 548 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: he describes probably what a lot of people on reality 549 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: TV shows feel pretty accurately. And by when I say 550 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: people on reality TV shows, I mean cast members of 551 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: regular season shows like Housewives or vander Pump Rules. 552 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: When you come on as a couple, is that is 553 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: the show like a contestant, Yeah, not a relationship show 554 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: like Love Island or Big you know whatever. 555 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: So Paul said of the Housewives, I don't think I'd 556 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: ever do something like that. Again, I think being on 557 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: a reality show it did speed up our demise and divorce. 558 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: I think it was going to happen anyway eventually. So 559 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: the question is does reality TV ruin marriages? 560 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't help. It's not going to help. It's not 561 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: going to make it better. 562 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 2: I think one thing people have to realize and they 563 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: go in naively with this. You can speak to this 564 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: from a producer's perspective, but you've probably been cast on 565 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: that show because the producers could tell you add a 566 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: little bit of a problematic marriage. Producers are casting people 567 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 2: who they think are going to create good dramatic television. 568 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Right. 569 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 2: So of course, I think a lot of people go 570 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: and thinking, oh, I've been chosen. I'm a housewife, I'm 571 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: so charismatic, and I'm a star. But what they don't 572 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: realize is part of the reason these producers cast you 573 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: is they've done their homework, they've done their research, they've 574 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: interviewed you, and they know what to look for, and 575 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: they're hoping for some good story. 576 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: Right. 577 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: You probably aren't being picked because you're perfect. But I 578 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: think when the light gets turned on and you start 579 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of that fame you think you are, like, 580 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: I think people get this grandiose idea of who they 581 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: are and all of a sudden you feel like you're, 582 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, Captain America or Wonder Woman or something. That's 583 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: not the case. You're not as great as you think 584 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: you are. 585 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: Well, and then certainly these shows are set up to 586 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: create drama. 587 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to. 588 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Have other people out those stories, yeah, or. 589 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: Even creating stories. I mean there have been lots of 590 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: a cast member will say, oh, I heard a rumor 591 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: that your husband was cheating and it's totally fake and 592 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: it's just been done for the show. But then it 593 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: creates real questions and arguments in your real marriage. 594 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: And so to your point your original question, no, it's 595 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: never going to help a marriage. You're not gonna you know, 596 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: unless the show is just about No. 597 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: People have asked me before if I like, you know, 598 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: there's always rumors of housewives like are they doing a 599 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: real Housewives of Austin? And I've had people ask me, well, 600 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: would you do that? I would be very afraid to 601 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: do that. I love you and I love our relationship, 602 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: and knowing the way reality TV works, I would be 603 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: very afraid to risk us. 604 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I would be the Harry Hamlin of 605 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: I know. 606 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: I think that's the way to do it. 607 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: Would criticize Lisa Rinna because her husband Harry Hamlin, wasn't 608 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: on the show that much when she was on Real 609 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: Houses of Beverly Hills. But I'm watching it thinking Harry 610 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: smartly not on the show because he's thinking, I don't 611 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: want our marriage to be a storyline here. 612 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: No. And so when you come on as an individual, 613 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: whether it's a competition show a relationship show, you're dealing 614 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: with things that just surround you. And sometimes you know, 615 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: you get to the love or an engagement, but it's 616 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: still you. I think when you're dealing with a relationship 617 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: and that dynamic man, that's that's a lot because you 618 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: can be pitted against each other, you can have those 619 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: false rumors brought up. It's just you're dealing with things 620 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: that you're never going to deal with in your day 621 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: to day life. It's just you're just creating. You're running 622 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: into a minefield that you never had to enter, so 623 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: why would you. 624 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: And there's also that element of the show being a 625 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: little bit like therapy. Like you'd said before, The Bachelor 626 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: was like therapy. I do think when people Paul Nass 627 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: have said, maybe we were already you know, headed towards it, 628 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: sped it up. Sometimes when you're sitting and talking with 629 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: a producer for hours on end and answering questions about 630 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: your marriage, maybe you're really thinking and realizing, oh no, 631 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: there's some issues here. This was making me see things 632 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: in a different light. 633 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: For sure, and it can be helpful. And nobody, I 634 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: always said, nobody went on the Bachelor bacherette and came 635 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 1: out unchanged. I mean, if you did, you're just, you know, 636 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: kind of soulless and you were just kind of going 637 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: through it like a robot. You learn so much about 638 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: yourself because you're putting these extreme situations. And I guess 639 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: the same could be true if you wanted to put 640 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: some sort of a rosy spin on this. The same 641 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: could be said for a relationship. You would come out 642 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: of it. If you survive, you would definitely be stronger 643 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: because you're never going to face anything like that again. 644 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: But I think overall, for me, I just the value 645 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: of what it gives you, I don't know would would 646 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: equal what it might do to my love of my 647 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: life and my relationship with my significant other. Can we 648 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: talk about this Cardi B thing? 649 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: Yes? 650 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: So Cardi B is in Las Vegas and she's given 651 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: a concert at I think she was at dres up 652 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: there and someone, why has this become a thing. Stop 653 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: throwing stuff at people on stage. This isn't roadhouse. 654 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: It's stopping. 655 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: So someone threw a drink at Cardi B performing in Vegas, 656 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: and girl just threw her micro split second, didn't balk. 657 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: She went full major league and threw the microphone at 658 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: this guy. By the way, she's a lefty. She's got 659 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: an arm. She's got an arm. Did you see the throw? 660 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: I I love that she did this joke. 661 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: I love that she did it because I'm not, you know, 662 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: green lighting assault here, but this is self defense. 663 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: Somebody threw something at her, she threw something back. This 664 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: has got to stop. 665 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: At this point, We've had Kelsey Ballerini got a bracelet 666 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: thrown at her face, Bibi Rexa got an iPhone thrown 667 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: at her head, Harry Styles is something thrown at him this, 668 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: and it's just getting scary. Honestly, you can't don't. I 669 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: would not want to be a performer and you go 670 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: out on stage and you're looking at a sea of 671 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: people scared or worried that someone might try to hurt you. 672 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: You don't know what's going to happen next. And I 673 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: love that Cardi B Is like, no, that's not happening here. 674 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna get something back when you do that to me, 675 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: because what's the other option. At this point, You've got 676 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: to take a stand because you can't. What what are 677 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: you gonna do? Make thousands upon thousands of people give 678 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: you their phones and their jewelry before they enter your show. 679 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: No drinks are going. 680 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: Through TSA, Come on now, okay. So Cardi also reportedly 681 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: threw her microphone toward a DJ who seemingly was cutting 682 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: her off her songs early during another performance. That was 683 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: reported via TikTok. So. I don't know. We don't have 684 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: video of that one as well, but did she with 685 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: her two microphone throws? But this was the one I 686 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: think comedic part that I took away. Okay, so go 687 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: watch the video and you have Cardi B throw her 688 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: microphone that she was supposedly allegedly singing into. She throws 689 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: the microphone, which you would think would end the song abruptly. Nope, 690 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: the song never stopped. It didn't miss a beat. Clearly 691 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: Cardi B was not singing. There was a full on 692 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: track going. Because the voice didn't change, it didn't stop, 693 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: nothing happened in the audio. 694 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: Expect people to perform live these days, I don't really 695 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: I do do I hope? 696 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: But it's also maybe it's the performers that I love 697 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: that I tend to gravitate towards. 698 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: Look, if Adele was singing a track, I'd be disappointed 699 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: because to me, Adele is her voice. 700 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: I don't want Taylor Swift on her eras tour too. 701 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: I know they all have tracks for certain songs because 702 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: sometimes it's just impossible to hit well. 703 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: You can't be it's dancing and breathing and singing and 704 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: hitting notes, and we you know, the choreography adds on 705 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: to the difficulty for sure, But yeah, I don't know, 706 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't. I think I go to a show more 707 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: for the whole show of it. Yeah, and I'm not 708 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: that upset of somebody lip syncs for the whole thing, 709 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: not the whole thing. But I'm but choice tracks I 710 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 2: woantn't mine. And if they were adding a lot of spectacle, 711 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: like if they're adding choreography and set design and all 712 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: this stuff, it doesn't bother me that much. 713 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: There are different types of shows. I get it what 714 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: you're what you're talking about. 715 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: Also, if you're not gonna sound great live, I'd rather 716 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: you just do the track. 717 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: Just why can't we just sit in the parking lot 718 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: and listen to the radios. 719 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: This is why I don't go to that many concerts. 720 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: We can't get into this. We can't we can't go 721 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: that deep into that. But Cardi B love the arm. 722 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: You better be careful because she has got a solid 723 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: arm mode for Cardi. 724 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: She's out there protecting all of the artists. Stop throwing 725 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: things at people. 726 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: Definitely give us your comments on this topic, on anything 727 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: we have hit today, or anything you want us to 728 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: talk about. You can always find Lauren Zima and I 729 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Lauren Zima, I'm at Chris B. Harrison, 730 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: and of course you can always find the most dramatic 731 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: podcast ever at the most dramatic pod ever. Leave us 732 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: your comments. We love to hear from you. We always 733 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: love the debate and what this is about is just 734 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: having the discussion, and man, we love talking to you. 735 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: It is good to be back. Although we had shows 736 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 1: last week for the big birthday week, but I don't 737 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: remember most of them. It was a haze. No, I'm 738 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: just kidding, but we are glad to be home. We're 739 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: glad to be talking to you as always, and we 740 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: will talk to you next time because we have a 741 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. 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