Speaker 1: Look, how is only films to be buried with? Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director at Thistle, and I love films. As Lautzu
Speaker 1: once said, the flame that burns twice as bright burns
Speaker 1: half as long, which isn't technically true for all sequels,
Speaker 1: though Creed two is three minutes shorter than Creed. Every
Speaker 1: week I invite a special guest over. I tell them
Speaker 1: they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life
Speaker 1: through the films that meant that most of them. Previous
Speaker 1: guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Kyle McLaughlin, and even
Speaker 1: Led Campbell's. But this week it's the brilliant, award winning comedian.
Speaker 1: It's Laura Smith. Head over to the Patreon at patreon
Speaker 1: dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get an
Speaker 1: extra fifteen minutes or more with Laura. We talk secret is,
Speaker 1: we talk the beginning and ending of things. You get
Speaker 1: the whole episode unca and ad free and as a video.
Speaker 1: Check it out over at Patreon dot com Forward slash
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein. So Laura Smith, Laura Smith is an award winner.
Speaker 1: She won the Funny Women Award. She's appeared on Live
Speaker 1: at the Apollo and Jonathan Ross and Frankie Boyle. She's
Speaker 1: acted in loads of things. She's touring the country this
Speaker 1: year in her excellent news stand up show. We had
Speaker 1: never met before. We recorded this on Zoom about a
Speaker 1: week ago, and boy does this one go deep. She
Speaker 1: was amazing. I really think you're gonna love this one.
Speaker 1: She's a fucking delight. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty eight of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is Brett
Speaker 1: Goldstein and I am joined today by a comedian, a
Speaker 1: Funny Woman award winner, a New World orderer, a Jonathan Russer,
Speaker 1: a Guardian writer, a Live at the Apollour, a hero,
Speaker 1: a legend, one of the great new comedians in the
Speaker 1: world working today. She's here, she's live. Can you believe it?
Speaker 1: I can because I'm looking at her. You're about to
Speaker 1: hear her. Unless you're also watching this video, please welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. It's the one. The only issue is
Speaker 1: it's Laura Smith.
Speaker 2: Oh what, I'll take that all day long. Thank you.
Speaker 1: How are you? Laura? Nice to meet you, first time
Speaker 1: we've met in it.
Speaker 3: It is true because you're more in LA than London,
Speaker 3: now are you?
Speaker 1: Sometimes? Sometimes I've seen you on all the youtubes. I've
Speaker 1: seen all your bits fucking funny, and I saw all
Speaker 1: your stuff and I was like, she's fucking funny. And
Speaker 1: then I checked with Louce Sanders, who, as you know,
Speaker 1: is the voice of reason in comedy. She's she's the
Speaker 1: only sensible voice in comedy, and I said, Lawrence Smith's
Speaker 1: fucking funny, and shenically said, yeah, she's amazing. Get her
Speaker 1: on your show. I said, all right, Yeah, we were.
Speaker 3: We were crying pretty quickly on her cud of Club podcast.
Speaker 2: That's that's how we're wrong.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think when I first started, I kind of reached
Speaker 2: out to her.
Speaker 3: I've got geeky fan picks, post gigs with Lucanders, that's
Speaker 3: our cuts. How much I love her, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, she's my favorite comedian so yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm mutual.
Speaker 2: We've got mutual. Yeah, so yeah, very good choice.
Speaker 1: How long you've been at it now? Five years?
Speaker 3: Just about yeah, just about congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 1: You've already sort of completed comedy because you've done all
Speaker 1: the TV shows and Lover Depollo. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: that's it, right, Yeah, that is it.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny.
Speaker 3: I was talking the other day and it's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, you have ambition and all of that sort
Speaker 3: of thing, but I was just sort of having a
Speaker 3: drink my husband after a gig last night, and I
Speaker 3: just said, like, if gigging was it, if the circuit
Speaker 3: was it, that would be me living my dream.
Speaker 2: And that's a nice baseline to feel.
Speaker 3: And I have very few ambitions other than that, and
Speaker 3: everything else feels good.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I've got into writing and developing shows and writing for
Speaker 3: other shows and that feels nice, and.
Speaker 2: Little bits of acting here in that. I like it all.
Speaker 3: But to me, the circuit is everything, and the craft
Speaker 3: and peeking out with another comedian. I did a new
Speaker 3: bit the other night and Sean mcloughin got off to
Speaker 3: just be forensic with him, and it was just that's
Speaker 3: the bit. It just ah, that's so I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe tiktick tick completed it, mate, but the craft that
Speaker 3: is never complete.
Speaker 2: So that feels nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure I've told this before, and forgive me,
Speaker 1: if you've heard this, you wouldn't have. Maybe. Anyway, years ago,
Speaker 1: I was doing a gig. I turned up to a
Speaker 1: gig and it was in fucking December, and I turned
Speaker 1: up and I was like, oh no, it's like a
Speaker 1: sort of corporate Chris mus gig. And it was it
Speaker 1: Spiky Dix or whatever it's called. What's that place called
Speaker 1: Licky Dix. It was it Licky Dick, Spiky Dick.
Speaker 3: They both started tempting, yeah, and it.
Speaker 1: Was like under a pub and it was this whole
Speaker 1: office party. It was a fucking night.
Speaker 2: And sucky fucking dirty dicks.
Speaker 1: It was lucky fuck stinky dirty dicks and it was
Speaker 1: like an office Christmas party and they were hammered and
Speaker 1: they were heckling everyone. Ever. I was having a nightmare
Speaker 1: and I went up quite late, but I sort of
Speaker 1: figured out watching it. I was like, there's no way
Speaker 1: anyone could do material here. You've just got to fucking
Speaker 1: play with this crowd and sort of roast them and
Speaker 1: that's all that's god of way. Anyway, I ended up
Speaker 1: having quite a good gig, despite thinking there's going to
Speaker 1: be terrible terrible. But afterwards, this very drunk woman came
Speaker 1: next to me and she was like, you were You
Speaker 1: were quite funny and I was like thanks, and she said,
Speaker 1: so what's all this for? What's next? And I genuine
Speaker 1: was like, oh, just another gig, just another one, just
Speaker 1: another gig. And I could see she felt sorry for me,
Speaker 1: like she was sort of like, is this it? And yeah,
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, and I am so grateful that
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it if you do. I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: that I'm not going back to the office throw that
Speaker 1: I get to do, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was like, I know you feel sorry for me, but
Speaker 1: this is it. This isn't going anywhere. It's just this
Speaker 1: more of this and I'm happy and you feel sorry.
Speaker 2: For me, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's so funny people's responses to what you do. And
Speaker 3: you know there's always that thing like women get them
Speaker 3: like I've got children as well, so it's all like
Speaker 3: that kind of oh it's.
Speaker 2: Good that you're like, I was get well done? Or
Speaker 2: how did you do this?
Speaker 3: And I'm like video from my Instagram and just my mates,
Speaker 3: and I don't know how you find the time. I
Speaker 3: thought this is all I do now, dick about you know,
Speaker 3: I love it and people you love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: I love I love bad gigs. It's that thing of it,
Speaker 3: like a bad, bad comedy gig still better than any
Speaker 3: day of work I've ever done, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, yeah, I think that's true. Yeah, I'd agree
Speaker 1: with that, Laura, I am. I hope you don't mind.
Speaker 1: I read your Guardian article that you wrote, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it made me cry, and I thought it was a
Speaker 1: very very beautiful. I thought it was a really fucking
Speaker 1: great bit of writing. And really, hmmm, basically, if you
Speaker 1: don't mind, it was about your cancer diagnosis correct and
Speaker 1: you are now clear and yeah and congratulations. And I
Speaker 1: thought it was just such a good bit of writing.
Speaker 1: It was so sort of wise and funny and heartbreaking
Speaker 1: and like and seriously good advice advice in it, and anyway,
Speaker 1: I was just like, God, she's a fucking good writer.
Speaker 1: And I wondered, if I may ask, how you are
Speaker 1: having been through this terrible, terrible thing. How long ago
Speaker 1: were you all clear? How long has it been?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Really after my surgery that I was considered in remission
Speaker 3: as they say, And then everything else has been adjuvant
Speaker 3: therapy to keep me safe. And you know, anyone that's
Speaker 3: had cancer or anything serious health stuff knows there's a
Speaker 3: sense of like, you know, you don't know, and you're
Speaker 3: sort of that thing of going five years, ten years.
Speaker 3: So it's a couple of years now I've been all right,
Speaker 3: and you know the article that you're talking about, I
Speaker 3: talked about it in context of kind of you know,
Speaker 3: coming to live my dream late and all that sort
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's good.
Speaker 3: And you know the basis of this show about you know,
Speaker 3: you're asking people about how they feel about death, so
Speaker 3: we jump in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I was really right, boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well I thought, well, I know I've got
Speaker 3: an answer to that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And am I scared of death?
Speaker 3: And I don't know, maybe this is a comedian's mentality,
Speaker 3: but or just a sort of bit of a fighter mentality,
Speaker 3: but I realized the anxiety of a diagnosis is so powerful,
Speaker 3: and every letter that you receive, everything that you get
Speaker 3: about it, you know, you're very disempowered just you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's a disempowering thing. You're in the hands of
Speaker 2: the doctors.
Speaker 3: I was thinking of a joke Ruger, I don't like
Speaker 3: doctors because I cancer, and as a doctor who told me,
Speaker 3: which is just a stupid way, there is some truth
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Because you're like, oh, you're my gods now, because I'm
Speaker 3: waiting for what you tell me about this scan and
Speaker 3: that scan. And I just realized I had to be
Speaker 3: okay with dying in order to I still don't want
Speaker 3: to call it a fight, in order to just be
Speaker 3: on this. I also don't want to call it a journey,
Speaker 3: but to be in this kind of process, I thought, Okay,
Speaker 3: if I can it's a mentally like almost like you
Speaker 3: at dated Dix.
Speaker 2: If I can handle the worse, I've watched them all.
Speaker 3: Now, if I can handle the worse, I'm just rolling then,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? And there's sometimes and
Speaker 3: so if I went at it with this kind of
Speaker 3: don't die, don't die, don't die, I think that anxiety
Speaker 3: would have consumed me. But as I went, okay, you know,
Speaker 3: I can be at peace with I can be a
Speaker 3: call with dying.
Speaker 2: That was an sort of an integral.
Speaker 3: Part of the fight of coming out the other side
Speaker 3: where I just didn't want it.
Speaker 2: It's the end of labyrinth. You have no power over me.
Speaker 3: You know that that when everything falls away it was
Speaker 3: it or the matrix which borrowed heavily nun just doing.
Speaker 3: But you know that kind of oh when you realize
Speaker 3: it has no power over you. And I and I
Speaker 3: said to my husband, tell me you and the kids
Speaker 3: will be all right, guys, we'll be all right.
Speaker 2: I said, all right, we'll be all right then.
Speaker 3: And obviously I have the fear in the sense of,
Speaker 3: like you know, hugging my children, it'll be saying goodbye,
Speaker 3: you know, leaving them to them for themselves. But also,
Speaker 3: you know, I dug really deep. It all got a
Speaker 3: bit cosmic. I'm obsessed with near death experiences. There's a
Speaker 3: brilliant one that's that's an account of one by Anita
Speaker 3: more Johnny who was at death Door had this huge
Speaker 3: near death experience and just went back into a body.
Speaker 2: And so I always sort of.
Speaker 3: Go, yeah, I just it's like with going how was
Speaker 3: life at the pollaga, I chose to enjoy it, sort
Speaker 3: of feel like I'm just choosing to live.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just going to live, and how like
Speaker 2: fill up my cup?
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's funny to ask someone about death and
Speaker 3: tell them they're dead and in a kind of promise
Speaker 3: when you know, the kind.
Speaker 2: Of fought for their life.
Speaker 3: But I was having Yeah, I was talking about my
Speaker 3: husband the other day and I was with my crany
Speaker 3: Ias your path, because that's what sort of stuff I
Speaker 3: do now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about that.
Speaker 3: And I was sort of going, I said, well, obviously
Speaker 3: he's never had the privilege of fighting for his life.
Speaker 3: And she went, Wow, what a way to frame it.
Speaker 3: But I thought, oh, yeah, that is how I look
Speaker 3: at it. You know, there is this sort of thing
Speaker 3: where everything all priorities reship like shift and and and
Speaker 3: it's nice. You know, the tough stuff does give you
Speaker 3: the lessons. So it's yeah, I'm not scared of death
Speaker 3: at all. I'm not scared of death. Let's say I
Speaker 3: just don't I know, I'm not well, then you're dead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you a debt, so you are dead. Well done?
Speaker 1: You did it? How did you die?
Speaker 3: It was in me bones, it came back. I probably
Speaker 3: I'd like to I don't know. I think i'd like
Speaker 3: to die. Yeah, I'd like a comedy death. I suppose
Speaker 3: i'd like to like die a hero as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was it was standing it was catching a stray
Speaker 3: bullet or defending someone.
Speaker 2: That's what I'd like to think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was the bullet aiming for.
Speaker 2: Some poor kid that didn't deserve it?
Speaker 3: And I jumped in Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you first
Speaker 3: so fast?
Speaker 1: All right, so you stepped in front of a kid
Speaker 1: being I mean at first it was dark, but this
Speaker 1: was really dark. Tell me this the person who you
Speaker 1: just mentioned this story of the near death experience? What
Speaker 1: was it? What? What was that?
Speaker 3: Her name is Anita Moore Johnny and it's Dying to
Speaker 3: Be Me. But I just listened to listen to theo's podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 3: theovon as A had a recent guest, who's with this,
Speaker 3: Dr Jeffrey Long I think his name is, who's studied
Speaker 3: over four thousand different things of near death experiences and
Speaker 3: the overriding themes of all of them. And her book
Speaker 3: is called Dying to Be Me and he's got a
Speaker 3: book all about it, and just the incredible peace that
Speaker 3: people experience and the recurring themes and things they couldn't
Speaker 3: possibly have known or been aware of, and so I
Speaker 3: find them really fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you tell me the recurring things?
Speaker 3: The recurring themes are an overwhelming sense of peace, an
Speaker 3: overwhelming sense that actually this is the real they talk about, oh,
Speaker 3: the real world, the real existence. A sense of a creator,
Speaker 3: a sense of or rather a source, a divine source,
Speaker 3: a sense of three hundred and sixty degree sort of vision,
Speaker 3: and other hypersenses, so it's all happening at once altogether,
Speaker 3: an awareness of other spirits that you recognize on a
Speaker 3: kind of connective level, and no fear. And then THEO
Speaker 3: in his own kind of crazy way, he says something like,
Speaker 3: you know, well, why do we have to do this bit?
Speaker 3: Why would you want to go back into your body?
Speaker 3: Why do we have to do the human bit? And
Speaker 3: another thing that occurring theme from it is that, oh,
Speaker 3: it's an absolute essential part of the experience this bit.
Speaker 2: So that all that we need to learn.
Speaker 3: And there's a really nice reassuring bit at the end
Speaker 3: of the conversation where they say, well, actually because and
Speaker 3: I think I talked about this on Lou Suannders our
Speaker 3: mutual friends and comedian Lou Sunders podcast about because she
Speaker 3: said what's the point of life? And I was It's like,
Speaker 3: and they say the same thing, it's about to do
Speaker 3: the work. You know, I think we live in an
Speaker 3: age where it's like, you know, oh, my anxiety or
Speaker 3: my this or my and there's a sort of kind
Speaker 3: of lead in with the thing.
Speaker 2: That's holding you back.
Speaker 3: I would, but and and and all these things that
Speaker 3: we're you know rightfully sort of maybe crippled by emotionally.
Speaker 3: But actually the work is to kind of connect, connect
Speaker 3: to your fellow man and get rid of all things
Speaker 3: that stop you. The hang ups, the fear, the hurt,
Speaker 3: the trauma which we all have, like in varying degrees,
Speaker 3: and and things affect us, you know. So it's about
Speaker 3: overcoming all of that to reach out and love and
Speaker 3: get us close to that spirit realm that we're all
Speaker 3: heading to eventually anyway.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I'm interested in that. I'm interested in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the end of you know, Jacob
Speaker 3: Marley and Christmas Caroll. He is like, you know, you're
Speaker 3: a good man of business, and he says business, you know, mankind.
Speaker 2: Was my business.
Speaker 3: You know, all these things that all these ego things
Speaker 3: that occupy us in loads of different things, all the
Speaker 3: hang ups, all our crutches and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: But actually it's about overcoming all of those so that
Speaker 3: we can see each other really be present and connect
Speaker 3: and commune and love and care for one another and
Speaker 3: all that good stuff. So yeah, really lovely conclusions and
Speaker 3: phenomenal things in these near death experiences. Like a young
Speaker 3: couple that he fell asleep at the world and he
Speaker 3: had a shared near death experience, but his fiance didn't
Speaker 3: make it, but he was very at peace and knew that.
Speaker 2: She'd gone wherever she was. He was at peace with that.
Speaker 3: And a woman that had never had sight in her
Speaker 3: whole life actually had could come back and describe things
Speaker 3: that she saw on this other side. And so it
Speaker 3: is a really phenomenal study. And it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: a doctor. He's a medical doctor that decided to go
Speaker 3: into this study, so really fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Hard to you know, once you've gone through stuff, it's
Speaker 3: hard to kind of go back and be God.
Speaker 2: That's where I was at.
Speaker 3: I was so anxious, obviously at the start of any
Speaker 3: of my diagnosis, so I was really consuming a lot
Speaker 3: of good stuff and mad stories like you know, really
Speaker 3: quoted it in the article that you referred to, but
Speaker 3: this book called cancer as a turning point where people
Speaker 3: where he worked with this guy Lachan, a psychologist, worked
Speaker 3: with people for such a long time, and he was
Speaker 3: saying what he describes as the Vienna model when he
Speaker 3: was talking to people that were dying and you know,
Speaker 3: tell me about your father, told me about your mother
Speaker 3: or this, he said, no, one got better, nobody got better.
Speaker 3: When you's like going, what what you wish you did
Speaker 3: with your life? What would you have done with this?
Speaker 3: And what could you and that these people just went well,
Speaker 3: I never traveled or you know, this is in the forties,
Speaker 3: fifties and sixties, seventies went it's really restrictive, and people
Speaker 3: did have restrictive lives, and then you know you'd have
Speaker 3: Stage four CANCU patients going off and still sending postcasts
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty years later, you know, and actually getting
Speaker 3: rid of all the weight that stops you.
Speaker 2: Doing things and going for it, the emotional weight, you know.
Speaker 1: Fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a.
Speaker 1: Different podcast, No, this is exactly what this is. Brilliant.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That's so interesting. And so now do
Speaker 1: you feel, because I sometimes think at smaller levels when
Speaker 1: people have when you know, when I've had it, where
Speaker 1: you meditate and you have this like, oh, you have
Speaker 1: some vision or you have some breakthrough. It feels like
Speaker 1: a breakthrough, but then it's difficult to sustain that when
Speaker 1: you go back to normal life and yeah, digging and
Speaker 1: raising your kids and all of that. Like this kind
Speaker 1: of spiritual awareness you feel and stuff like how much
Speaker 1: do you feel day to day you keep that and
Speaker 1: how much do you get caught up in that fucking
Speaker 1: parking ticket? All?
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, So we you know, it's it's just being
Speaker 3: kind to yourself and all of that. It's daily forgiveness
Speaker 3: of yourself and others and trying to stay present. My
Speaker 3: big thing that I really had to learn on as
Speaker 3: so much of my energy field everything was all, you know, speculative,
Speaker 3: what's going to happen? When I was a teacher, whatever
Speaker 3: I've done, it's always if if, and you're going towards
Speaker 3: the future. But quite a good perhsis of bringing it
Speaker 3: back to the present and to the point of like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing till this day?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And because you can raise a head so I can
Speaker 3: tell when that sort of teeth sort of determination front
Speaker 3: all lobe cranky, cranky, crunky energy is kicking in, and
Speaker 3: you know, you remind yourself to surrender. You remind yourself
Speaker 3: to kind of surrender and accept and even except if
Speaker 3: you're wound up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I'm wound up.
Speaker 3: I haven't slept for a few nights, or you know,
Speaker 3: of course there's a lot going on in the world.
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, accept a sort of things. And
Speaker 3: like I say, when I know that I'm quite ratty
Speaker 3: or I'm paranoid or I'm insecure, I think, ah, the
Speaker 3: I sort of treat them like red lights warning lights
Speaker 3: on a car. I think, Okay, you've been you know,
Speaker 3: eating badly, or you've probably had a glass of wine
Speaker 3: three times, or you know you haven't slept well, like
Speaker 3: take a step back. So it's and this same woman
Speaker 3: she talks about that as well, this in this Dying
Speaker 3: to Be Me, But she says, when you know, when
Speaker 3: her business things that you think need more effort, it's
Speaker 3: the counterintuitor things to say, things are quite crunky, I'm
Speaker 3: not flowing with the universe. Step back and rest. I
Speaker 3: mean it's the same in stand up, isn't it. You
Speaker 3: know I only ever say I killed it in stand
Speaker 3: up when you know I've discerned something magic in the room,
Speaker 3: and I'm surfing that and you know, orchestraight in that.
Speaker 3: You know, I can tell my jokes. I can write
Speaker 3: a joke and I can go, oh, yeah, that was good.
Speaker 3: But there's those rare magic lights where you go yeah.
Speaker 3: What Neil Young describes as being at one with your
Speaker 3: out with breath. That's always a nice state to be,
Speaker 3: and isn't it.
Speaker 1: How is it affected you as a parent? I am
Speaker 1: assuming you're a very wonderful parent. Do you do you
Speaker 1: feel oh yeah, do you feel more? And perhaps you
Speaker 1: always were? Do you feel like this has made you
Speaker 1: a better parent? Has it made your worst parent? Like?
Speaker 1: How does it affect you with your kid?
Speaker 2: I think so it's been a bit of a journey, really,
Speaker 2: I am. Yeah, you know, we're all.
Speaker 3: Still pieces of shit. You know, I'm still a piece
Speaker 3: of shit. It's not getting twisted, you know, but.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: I am in the year.
Speaker 3: What was nice about getting canceled was like it gave
Speaker 3: me a license to be really selfish and I always
Speaker 3: missed that, you know it, Like I always wanted like
Speaker 3: I was wanting my leg in embrace when all glasses
Speaker 3: when I was in school. Do you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a little bit oh not well one, there's something
Speaker 3: really nice about it, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You're not allowed to say. It's like license, take cameras off.
Speaker 3: So I had quite year, being quite selfish, and I
Speaker 3: was doing a lot of stuff. Then I've actually, you know,
Speaker 3: when you're in survival mode and then you come out
Speaker 3: and I thought kids weren't in a good place, you know,
Speaker 3: last to the beginning of last year.
Speaker 2: They just weren't happy. They weren't happy at school.
Speaker 3: My little boy was very emotional and it was all
Speaker 3: coming out in different ways. So actually it was a
Speaker 3: little bit like, Okay, they need me. So it was
Speaker 3: like message received loud and clear. And I think, you know,
Speaker 3: I do think we live in a world where everyone's
Speaker 3: so busy, and it's like, oh, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I've got all this stress at work and now
Speaker 2: the kids are kicking.
Speaker 3: Off, and you know, the kids are kicking off because
Speaker 3: everything going like this weird detachment who have So I
Speaker 3: kind of I think I'm a good parent in that.
Speaker 3: I thought, okay, I'm hearing you, and you know, it
Speaker 3: felt very much like let's let's restore some balance in
Speaker 3: the force and everything.
Speaker 2: And so that that was nice.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I think I'm a good parent in the
Speaker 3: sense of I've unlearned a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I've been a parent a long time.
Speaker 3: I had my oldest when I was young, and you know,
Speaker 3: she's certainly got the brunt of a lot of my
Speaker 3: own kind of stress and not knowing how my unhealed
Speaker 3: stuff was coming out in different ways and everything and
Speaker 3: having a lot to prove. And I think because I've
Speaker 3: taken care of myself a little bit, I've got I've
Speaker 3: got more capacity. I don't get triggered of like, ah,
Speaker 3: I can't. I haven't got the capacity for this. I'm
Speaker 3: conscious of making sure we've got you know, the language
Speaker 3: in our house. To quote my middle child, cool, your
Speaker 3: cup gets full quick, because when I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, can we get this bloody house? You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know they know who I am. So yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely balance and taking care of them. Yeah, so of
Speaker 3: course it has.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, fantastic. I mean I guess we should.
Speaker 1: I guess we should probably also talk about films, yeah whatever,
Speaker 1: if we have to hang on. So do you think
Speaker 1: there's a heaven? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not in a Philadelphia advert kind of way,
Speaker 3: in a kind of. I think that from anything I
Speaker 3: feel and understand about it, Like you talk about meditation,
Speaker 3: and I've had lots of like hypnotherapy or doing mushrooms
Speaker 3: or things that you know, when you're just like elevating.
Speaker 2: High, I think that.
Speaker 3: I think there's a light and vibrations and cosmic sort
Speaker 3: of connections are all there. I just think that we
Speaker 3: live in the world with limited exception from all of
Speaker 3: our senses, so that we all know, don't we We
Speaker 3: all know that feeling of cosmic connection when it happens,
Speaker 3: or a coincidence we might call it, or just manifestation
Speaker 3: or stuff like that. So I just think the heaven
Speaker 3: is almost like the real, the real existence, do you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like the real where we're no
Speaker 3: longer limited by all our sort of bullshit or something
Speaker 3: called them bodies. But like you know, I just think
Speaker 3: I do I do, I really do. I believe I
Speaker 3: don't I believe in God, I believe in heaven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me tell you how we babe.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. You're welcome in it and get rid
Speaker 1: of this bullshit as we call them bodies, and you're
Speaker 1: welcome come inside. Everyone's a big fan I want to
Speaker 1: talk to you about your life. Oh, it's filled with
Speaker 1: your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 2: Chicken wings?
Speaker 1: Right, Heaven is made up of chicken wings. The savas
Speaker 1: are made of chicken wings. The bulls are made of
Speaker 1: chicken wing. You can just grab. Anything you grab is
Speaker 1: a chicken, but it's chicken wings. As far as I
Speaker 1: can see, chick and the chicken wings wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to you about your life. They won't talking about it through film.
Speaker 1: The first thing I asked you, Laura Smith, is what's
Speaker 1: the first film you remember seeing?
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's really there's I think it might
Speaker 3: be something awful like Nightmare on Elm Street or something
Speaker 3: like From Behind the Sofa and awareness of my brother
Speaker 3: and his friend watching it and being really terrified. I
Speaker 3: think it might be something like that. I well, I
Speaker 3: think you could date it probably five or six, but
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I saw it. But it
Speaker 3: was on and it was really scary. I feel like
Speaker 3: that was a big thing. Yeah, that's really scary. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's really scary. That's a really scary start into films.
Speaker 3: I was very scared of that when I was a
Speaker 3: little little child. Yeah, it's very scary.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 1: And yeah, do you like the scared? What's the scariest
Speaker 1: film you've ever seen?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's probably still up there. I think that.
Speaker 2: I think that affected me.
Speaker 3: That was in my head, this idea of dreams and
Speaker 3: things that could threaten you. What's the scariest film? I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not good with scary. I think Wickerman's the scariest film.
Speaker 2: Do you know that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I know that.
Speaker 3: It's because it's so I think that's much clever scarre,
Speaker 3: isn't it. That's creepy what's going on? Paranoid and also
Speaker 3: the kind of midsommer sort of paganism and floatiness and loveliness,
Speaker 3: And I think, what a weird comment on the world
Speaker 3: that we live in. Do you know what I mean
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, everything's fine, but oh you're just we
Speaker 3: just sacrificed virgins, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 3: And you know, in that sort of I think some
Speaker 3: films pull their punches, don't they. It's like shut Island
Speaker 3: Off and that very scary. But then it was do
Speaker 3: you see what I mean? And it was he paranoid
Speaker 3: a very funny thing to have paranoias totally confirmed.
Speaker 1: That's quite cool, isn't it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: those paranoid films, they're always right. I've never I don't
Speaker 1: think i've seen a film where it's about someone thinking
Speaker 1: something's going on and it turns out it wasn't exactly
Speaker 1: The Father, but that's about dementia.
Speaker 3: Oh god, what a beautiful film though, How how incredible
Speaker 3: was The Father?
Speaker 2: But what's the one with John Goodman?
Speaker 1: The Cloverfield Lane Cloverfield Paradox Cloverfield Lane. Yes, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3: Double paranoid because is this guy as so in a
Speaker 3: weird way? Yes, her paranoia was wrong. He wasn't weird,
Speaker 3: but he was. Paranoia was correct, it was out. So
Speaker 3: that's a weird one, isn't it. Actually that's that's great.
Speaker 3: Feel Actually that's a good thing. Ten Cloverfield Lane, that's
Speaker 3: what ye so wicked man? Do you like being scared?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I'm not good at it. I'm not I'm not good
Speaker 3: at that. Yeah, I'm not one that wants to watch
Speaker 3: sore or anything like that. I feel like I like
Speaker 3: being scared. I like being on edge. I've just started
Speaker 3: rewatching The Fargos after watching Fargo season five, and and
Speaker 3: you're you're like that the whole time.
Speaker 2: I found that I'm really creepy, so that is great.
Speaker 3: But when I don't like horror, I don't like showing
Speaker 3: the nastiest possible thing. I think that's well cheap to
Speaker 3: do that. Like to just be in your own head
Speaker 3: and imagination is brilliant, you know. That's why I think
Speaker 3: I like older horror films like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about crying? What's the film that made you
Speaker 1: cry the most? You have a big crier. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a big crier. I love crying. Oh I love crying
Speaker 1: as a kid.
Speaker 3: And this might be actually one of an early films
Speaker 3: that I watched as a kid. I feel like she
Speaker 3: is quite a dark start because there was loads like
Speaker 3: Labyrinth was always on, it felt like and Lady Killers
Speaker 3: that seemed to be a film that we had a lot.
Speaker 3: We watched that a lot. That was one of the
Speaker 3: few vhss we had. But Champ, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: remember crying, you know, the boxing film Champ with John Boyd.
Speaker 2: The Champ, Oh my god, Champ.
Speaker 3: I'm going to play that at my funeral just to
Speaker 3: make sure people cry. Just that desperation of like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, and then I remember my girl. I cried
Speaker 3: so hard at my girl and then cried and cried
Speaker 3: then and so you have rew.
Speaker 2: I cried. I went into I.
Speaker 1: Wish I was in that.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be like the clubs. I just was.
Speaker 2: It seemed I just so was so emotionally moved by it.
Speaker 3: And then the fact that it was a little girl
Speaker 3: that I kind of was the same major as I was.
Speaker 2: Just crying out a jealousy by.
Speaker 1: The end, like a weird not you wanted your friend.
Speaker 2: To It felt so tragic. Yeah, I love a cry.
Speaker 1: I like someone with such low self esteem that they
Speaker 1: don't think anyone will cry at the funerals.
Speaker 2: The champion.
Speaker 3: I just I just can't anything like that. You can't believe.
Speaker 3: I mean, I cried at Lion King. I remember crying
Speaker 3: at Lion King. Anything that that, Oh, so yeah, that
Speaker 3: was a big deal.
Speaker 1: What about a film that you love that is not
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed, most people don't like it, but you love
Speaker 1: it unconditionally.
Speaker 2: Rocky four.
Speaker 3: Is a perfect perfect in it Because I realized I
Speaker 3: like a lot of sequels as well, do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, I'm like, yeah, give me make
Speaker 3: it bigger, mad better, Like, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm actually sitting through Rocky You're like, can we get
Speaker 3: to the mad Montages please?
Speaker 1: It's taking it Rocky four. He sorts the Cold War out.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 3: They've got the formula down. And I love all the
Speaker 3: Creed films. Love both Creed films.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love.
Speaker 3: They're really good, I know, and just yeah, all day long.
Speaker 3: I could watch those sorts of things I love. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've always loved sequels I love I think I love
Speaker 3: Ghostbusters to modern Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I do too. There we said it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there we said it. It's not it's just so it's
Speaker 1: not a crime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a crime. I love it.
Speaker 3: Back to the Future too, more, the Backs to the Future,
Speaker 3: I think I like them all. Yeah, give it more.
Speaker 1: Give better than Greece list.
Speaker 3: That was another one of the few VHS's. I mean,
Speaker 3: Michelle firefucking do no wrong, can she?
Speaker 1: Though you can do whatever she wants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Greece so much. Though I can't, I can't,
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I do love.
Speaker 3: I love Greece too in the sense that people pan
Speaker 3: it in that context, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But it's like, come on, it's grease. Greece is perfect.
Speaker 1: Listen, we both know, we both know it. Yeah too,
Speaker 1: is fucking gray. It's so good. It's also more coherent.
Speaker 1: I think the ghost ghas all over the place.
Speaker 3: It's all over the place. I'll tell you what. The
Speaker 3: new one, the Afterlife. Oh my god, what a film?
Speaker 3: Oh tic tic tick love it? What about a film
Speaker 3: that you used to love.
Speaker 1: You loved it very much, but you've watched it recently
Speaker 1: and you've got I don't like this no more because
Speaker 1: you might have changed.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of films in that category for me,
Speaker 3: because you go, oh my god, my kids need to
Speaker 3: watch this. So like Ghostbuster, this one you're like nah,
Speaker 3: And there's like, you know, get people get ghost giving
Speaker 3: heads and.
Speaker 2: You know, you go the eighties. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: cocaine in.
Speaker 3: A lot of development rooms in the eighties because you're
Speaker 3: just like what was actually happening? Even the Goonies, you're
Speaker 3: like this quite weird crack. And the pace of films
Speaker 3: I can't believe. I slow films are like can you
Speaker 3: cut or something quickly? And can there be one hundred
Speaker 3: millions in it, please, Like, so there's that, But Breakfast
Speaker 3: Club is one The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Okay tell me, because I've got thoughts on this.
Speaker 3: There was just this sort of like like we loved it.
Speaker 3: It's so iconic, you know, the walking off at the end,
Speaker 3: the edgy ness and all of that, but.
Speaker 2: Actually the edgy people in it aren't edgy, do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: He gets stoned and starts doing backflips, you know, the
Speaker 3: whole tape in his ass, cheeks to get like the cry.
Speaker 3: It's so American violin and playing kind of it's not
Speaker 3: it just doesn't work. It's like the teachers the best
Speaker 3: thing in it. I think I love, Yeah, I love
Speaker 3: love them all, but it's just it just it just.
Speaker 2: Doesn't work for me anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, and that's something I loved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my answer to this question was The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, because I watched it a few years ago
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I hate them.
Speaker 1: I hate all of them. Yeah, I hate these whiny
Speaker 1: little fucking Oh my dad wanted me to get good grades.
Speaker 1: I was like, shut up. But I have to say
Speaker 1: I have reevaluated again. I was on a plane the
Speaker 1: other day and for some reason, I was like, maybe
Speaker 1: I should give this another chance. I watched it again.
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know what, Yes, it's got
Speaker 1: many many issues, but I get it again as in
Speaker 1: I sort of go because what I think I hadn't
Speaker 1: noticed the second time is there's a really good scene
Speaker 1: with the teacher and the janitor where the teacher's going
Speaker 1: these fucking kids and the janetor goes, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? It's always this, You were this, they were this,
Speaker 1: there'll be you. Like there's an awareness of of course
Speaker 1: you find this annoying, but you and they'll be there.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, all right.
Speaker 3: But I just think how iconically like I love like
Speaker 3: pretty in Pink that that's never you know, for because
Speaker 3: it was just Molly ring Ward was every week she
Speaker 3: so like that still stands for me, and like ducky
Speaker 3: and I just love Yeah, I just love all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the film that means the most to you?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the film itself is good, but the experience
Speaker 1: you had watching it will always make it iconic to you.
Speaker 3: Okay, I might I want to try and get this
Speaker 3: answer about crying. I about to close my eyes. So
Speaker 3: my dad died when I was quite young. I was ten,
Speaker 3: and you know my mom. Now I have kids, and
Speaker 3: I've realized I'm exactly the same age as my mom
Speaker 3: was when she was widowed, and I just thought they
Speaker 3: were all, well, you know, that's kind of crazy, and
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know how my mom
Speaker 3: kept us together because she just made it look easy,
Speaker 3: no help from no one for kids. And her birthday
Speaker 3: was in the January, a few months after he died,
Speaker 3: and she took us all to watch Home Alone Too
Speaker 3: Lost New.
Speaker 2: York, and then we had a McDonald's afterwards.
Speaker 3: And I think even as a ten year old, I
Speaker 3: knew this is what wasn't my forty two year old mother,
Speaker 3: because I'm just a selfish sort of brat. But at
Speaker 3: this age of my forty two year old mother's sort
Speaker 3: of dream birthday, do you know. Yeah, But she gathered
Speaker 3: us together and took us and it felt like a
Speaker 3: real treat and there was a real sort of you
Speaker 3: know when you are enjoying that sense of togetherness. I
Speaker 3: sort of look back at that time and think of
Speaker 3: all of us as on a sort of raft, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like together, and it just
Speaker 3: I just loved that film, and I just feel like
Speaker 3: I think I knew at the time how kind that
Speaker 3: was with my mum and how I would probably watch stretch.
Speaker 3: It was, you know, even financially, I'm a patronizer to
Speaker 3: sort of do that and do a thing that was
Speaker 3: a treat for us, you know, when you know you
Speaker 3: remember kindnesses time sort of thing. Of course it's gonna
Speaker 3: be kind to she as that mum, but that was
Speaker 3: a big one. I feel like I just loved that
Speaker 3: film because of that. I always associated with that.
Speaker 1: Did she love the film? Remember? Or is it like
Speaker 1: you do you think she enjoys the film.
Speaker 2: I think we all loved Home Alone.
Speaker 3: We were sort of you know any I feel like
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, anything we loved it had
Speaker 3: to be loved by jewelry. Even this getting ready for
Speaker 3: this podcast was like, there's been there's been chats. There's
Speaker 3: been big chats. There's been like you can't forget that,
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, there's been big memory lane chats.
Speaker 3: And I was the other answer possibly for this was
Speaker 3: like one time me and my sister bunks school because
Speaker 3: Dad was home and you know where he was, you know,
Speaker 3: he just rather than he knew we weren't really ill,
Speaker 3: so he took us much Ghostbusters two again, do you know?
Speaker 3: So that was a good thing that I still loved,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, like that naughtiness. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: think she loved the film, and I think we all
Speaker 3: loved it. We love we all enjoyed it, but it
Speaker 3: was just a kind of Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we were all.
Speaker 3: Anticipating it with excitement, and even though we you know,
Speaker 3: I just think of it as a nice experience that
Speaker 3: stands out as a cinema experience more than anything else.
Speaker 1: May I ask, because you're mom'ster the life, Yes, she is.
Speaker 2: She's she's in her seventy.
Speaker 3: My mom, and she's, oh yeah, she thinks she's gonna
Speaker 3: she thinks she's gonna live forever. She cycles everywhere, and
Speaker 3: she keeps herself busy, and she's always. Yeah, she just
Speaker 3: thinks she she doesn't want to die at all.
Speaker 2: She just does. She doesn't like old people. She's like,
Speaker 2: oh God, they take her knees like she's just something.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 2: So she's she's.
Speaker 3: She's I think she sort of lives like one of
Speaker 3: these older Japanese people in the Blue Zone, you know,
Speaker 3: like she's just stays busy, she's always crafting, she's always
Speaker 3: like switched on and keeps herself busy and all around
Speaker 3: the kids and everything, and just so she's yeah, she's
Speaker 3: she's cool, she's fine.
Speaker 1: Will you send her this podcast? I would like her
Speaker 1: to hear that story.
Speaker 2: She'll go, no, don't say nothing about me, don't mug me.
Speaker 1: Up up nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably like one of those ones like you know what,
Speaker 3: it's like, what did you do this summer holidays?
Speaker 2: And Mama, he wants to.
Speaker 1: Know come back to get that. I feel that way
Speaker 1: about like small talk, like how how was your weekend?
Speaker 1: Something fucking business? What you have to.
Speaker 2: I'm here now on let's talk about what.
Speaker 1: We're being present. What is the film you most relate to?
Speaker 3: Oh god, this is really hard and this is the
Speaker 3: hardest question.
Speaker 2: Do people find this difficult?
Speaker 1: A lot of people find this one difficult. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's rare that people go, I know this one, but
Speaker 1: sometimes they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I find this really difficult. I'd say there's shows
Speaker 3: that can relate.
Speaker 2: To that bit of that bit. Do you know what, though?
Speaker 3: I mean, as ridiculous as it is, Kill Bill Volume two,
Speaker 3: I love Volume two where we kind of get the
Speaker 3: kind of okay, now we're cooking with gassing. And then
Speaker 3: she gives this speech and I have such a love
Speaker 3: hate relation with credit tarantine and films and what he
Speaker 3: thinks you can get away with.
Speaker 2: But when she talks.
Speaker 3: About because I had my child when I was young,
Speaker 3: when her priority shifted when she got a positive pregnancy test,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know, I kind of attribute
Speaker 3: my whole life to my oldest child, because you know
Speaker 3: that kind And there's a bit where I love it
Speaker 3: when she curls up with her and there's this nice
Speaker 3: bit of it says, you know, the lioness was reunited
Speaker 3: with her cub and always well in the jungle. I
Speaker 3: always feel like that when I've been away from the kids.
Speaker 3: And also I fucking never let shit go. If anyone's
Speaker 3: going to go on a killing round page for something
Speaker 3: like it would be me.
Speaker 2: I can still talk about minor things.
Speaker 1: So you're how can I ask how your eldest isn't
Speaker 1: it she's twenty one and wow, wow, and are you
Speaker 1: still super super super love.
Speaker 2: For Oh yeah, we are.
Speaker 3: She's she's phenomenal, and she's she really blows me away.
Speaker 3: She's you know, we just were having a laugh talking
Speaker 3: about this categories and all that. And it's funny hearing
Speaker 3: her answers because her answers were like mad.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, yea, remember that feelm more.
Speaker 3: You know, things that I passed on to her and
Speaker 3: and stuff that she loves us like that's that's wild.
Speaker 3: So it's quite nice hearing it from her perspective. And yeah,
Speaker 3: she she's really lovely. She's I'm proud of it.
Speaker 2: I just think, you know, she's she's really lovely.
Speaker 1: Kids, she's a bloody woman. Please yep, law Smith, what's
Speaker 1: the sexiest film we've ever seen? Oh?
Speaker 2: God, I mean this.
Speaker 3: Is so there's so many things, right, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 3: to say a few because weird science.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I that's the answer.
Speaker 3: Something people said it come on, that was so sexy.
Speaker 3: Just everything about it's sexy. Robert Danny j is sexy
Speaker 3: in it. Kelly Kelly, Kelly the rock LeBrock, You're not.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's I think maybe I had a couple
Speaker 3: of years. It's just a teenage boy. You know, my
Speaker 3: daughter goes cool. If I had a tailor, yeah, wagged
Speaker 3: it and just they're kind of you know, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 3: all of it. You don't explain it, does it. It's
Speaker 3: just sexy, sexy, sexy, mad, sexy, brilliant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very sexy, very sexy film. I mean they
Speaker 1: make the perfect women, They make the perfect women out
Speaker 1: of a computer and yeah, getting LeBrock and you go.
Speaker 1: You can't argue with that.
Speaker 2: You can't argue with that.
Speaker 3: The fashions in it, the kind of lace gloves, the
Speaker 3: kinds of I mean, the baddies.
Speaker 2: I just fancy both the baddies in it and the
Speaker 2: good boys.
Speaker 1: All of it, the good boys, the bad boys and
Speaker 1: the good boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of it. Just didn't know where to direct
Speaker 3: your sexual desire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was just sucking all over.
Speaker 2: That film, even the rocket at the end, Like.
Speaker 1: Even when back turns into a poo. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: weird film. He does get turned into a giant poo
Speaker 1: at the end. Yeah, there's a weird bit in the
Speaker 1: Jazz Blues anyway. Oh yeah, yeah, when.
Speaker 2: He gets stoned and he's saw give talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which he also does in the Breakfast Club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a thing, that's his thing. I guess there's a subject
Speaker 1: of traveling bonus worrying. Why dones a filmy found arousing
Speaker 1: you weren't sure you should.
Speaker 3: Well, it's sort of the dirty version of we'd science,
Speaker 3: because it.
Speaker 2: Is next face that you're never the coming.
Speaker 3: Of age sexy stuff is kind of like where it's at,
Speaker 3: isn't it, because you're just like, oh my god, year,
Speaker 3: we all knew that sort of feeling and you can
Speaker 3: project all your fancacies onto it. And I remember like
Speaker 3: Rita Soo and Bob Too, which I know is a
Speaker 3: really sexy film, but it's so problematic and so wrong.
Speaker 2: But that kind of dirty sex, you're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: give me.
Speaker 3: That disgusting it's my turn next sort of rotten sex.
Speaker 3: And and with that, Shane Meadows does it really well
Speaker 3: as well, these sort of the kind of dark and
Speaker 3: offbeat like a Room for Romeo Brass when Pandy Constant
Speaker 3: characters just like Boner in a Wife fronts and it's
Speaker 3: all just like gross, but you know, any sort of
Speaker 3: you can it so recalls all this weird house part
Speaker 3: is a weirder people, you know, blurred lines and kind
Speaker 3: of shouldn't just rotten sort of sexyess I suppose I
Speaker 3: mean too.
Speaker 1: There you go, no shape rotten is a great.
Speaker 3: Oh but yeah, but Yeah, there's obviously other like weird
Speaker 3: things where you're like, you know, ThunderCats and then that
Speaker 3: was a show, but you know you shouldn't fancy cats.
Speaker 2: ThunderCats were sick, really are Yeah? Thanks, okay, thank you, Panthro.
Speaker 1: Listen, you're absolutely what is objectively the greatest film of
Speaker 1: all tap?
Speaker 3: Oh god, this is so difficult. No one can answer
Speaker 3: this properly, can they?
Speaker 2: Surely?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: My cousin Vinnie, that's it. It's my cousin Vinnie. That
Speaker 2: is it. I've got to say it.
Speaker 1: Academy would win it. That is the great. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a perfectly structured, perfectly and perfectly acted film.
Speaker 2: It's perfect. It's I mean Jaws. I think Jurassic Park
Speaker 2: could be it as well.
Speaker 1: Jassic Park might be it.
Speaker 3: I love Steven Spielberg, I've realized. But I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: to go with my cousin Vinnie. Oh, I don't know,
Speaker 3: this is so I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a really good film. It's perfect.
Speaker 1: It's what it is. It's the greatest film time maybe.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what else is the perfect film?
Speaker 3: And how I how I tried to think about this
Speaker 3: was now This might be my real answer, because how
Speaker 3: I tried.
Speaker 2: To think about it is, you know, like the perfect book.
Speaker 3: You go, Okay, that's a perfect thing because it's the
Speaker 3: it's perfect prose, perfectly structural, or a perfect song or
Speaker 3: a perfect I thought, what is the perit use of
Speaker 3: film and all that it can come with, like the
Speaker 3: soundtracks and camera work and structure and story and plotting
Speaker 3: and casting. Friday is perfect. You're right, everyone's got a
Speaker 3: theme tune.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's a triumph over adversity.
Speaker 2: You know, they get the girl.
Speaker 3: That there's guns, there's there's parents, you know, passing on wisdom.
Speaker 3: Like Mama said, if this was if this film was
Speaker 3: set in a kind of you know, quaint Portuguese fishing village,
Speaker 3: it'd been probably held as the greatest film all time.
Speaker 3: But it's you know, in La, that's in La, and
Speaker 3: it's just a beautiful story. It's funny, it's silly, it's
Speaker 3: you can watch it again and again. It's quotable. It's
Speaker 3: a perfectly, lovely, beautifully structured.
Speaker 2: Thing, isn't it.
Speaker 1: God, You're right, You're right on both counts. You have
Speaker 1: to pick on Friday. On Friday, Yeah, I think you're right, yeah, great,
Speaker 1: it's perfect. You get it. What is the film you
Speaker 1: could or have watched the most over and over again?
Speaker 2: Okay, what if?
Speaker 3: I probably it's changed over the years as a youngster's commitments,
Speaker 3: and I probably watched The Commitments.
Speaker 2: I think I love soul music because of it.
Speaker 3: I think I love I think I love Wilson Pickett
Speaker 3: and it's reading and Aretha Franklin because of this film.
Speaker 2: And I think that's from my formative years.
Speaker 3: I think I've watched the I think I could act
Speaker 3: out the Commitments for you right now starts finish. Do
Speaker 3: you know I've watched it that much? But in recent years.
Speaker 2: In recent years it might be when Harry met Sally.
Speaker 2: We watch it a lot. Me and my husband watch
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: It's perfect, that's a perfect film. I haven't seen The
Speaker 1: Commitments in a long time, but think with the clitments
Speaker 1: is I thought it's brilliant, the music, it's brilliant, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I think I find it really depressing it because how
Speaker 1: it sort of all falls apart and I think it's
Speaker 1: really had like yeah, but I maybe need to sit again.
Speaker 1: But my reason I haven't gone back to it. I
Speaker 1: think I found it depressing in the end? Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, of course. I mean that's just the Irish
Speaker 2: for you. They love it, didn't they?
Speaker 1: They love it?
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, maybe I liked it because of that.
Speaker 3: I think I'm a little bit of a tragic, weird
Speaker 3: day like that, because you know, give give me Grease
Speaker 3: flying off into the sky, give me eight mile, you know,
Speaker 3: give me Rocky.
Speaker 2: You you want the win at the end, But there's
Speaker 2: just something.
Speaker 3: It's no Rocky for no, no, no, you're right what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: But yes, all right, I'll have to watch that again. God,
Speaker 1: I'm busy. All right, what's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Gosh, negative.
Speaker 3: It's hard to be negative, do you know. I mean
Speaker 3: it's again, it's the hype films. I'm going to inception.
Speaker 3: Like every time you say inception, weren't that good? People,
Speaker 3: every man will go I didn't get it. But it's
Speaker 3: one concept, Like it's one concept played out over the
Speaker 3: whole film. And I don't know whether that's just me.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, okay, yeah, it's all like I get it.
Speaker 2: You know when someone.
Speaker 3: Tells you yeah, I get it, and then they keep talking.
Speaker 2: That's what that film was Yeah, get it, inception.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Yeah, I mean that is a very
Speaker 1: good description.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got it. Go on, crack on, do your
Speaker 2: little thing.
Speaker 1: Sold your cities up, Come on.
Speaker 2: Tell you what.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I watched the other night though
Speaker 3: as well. And this is something I probably used a casino.
Speaker 3: That's a bad film. That is an awful film.
Speaker 1: Is it? Oh?
Speaker 3: It does not standard test Oh, it does not standard
Speaker 3: test time, and it makes no sense.
Speaker 2: Watch it.
Speaker 3: I think Scorsese wrote it after he shot it, because
Speaker 3: he really Listen, watch it again. I'm telling you, watch
Speaker 3: it again. You'll go what is actually happening here? It
Speaker 3: is fur coaton Ni because it is, honestly it is.
Speaker 1: It's bad.
Speaker 2: It's genuinely bad.
Speaker 1: Wow, Laura coming in hot?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that might be in my you know what,
Speaker 3: I had this breakfast club that I love that film,
Speaker 3: like I love Scorsese.
Speaker 1: But you're taking out, Yeah, come come coming in.
Speaker 2: I've got friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, you're in comedy. You're in a world when
Speaker 1: you're very funny. What's the film that made you laugh
Speaker 1: the most? La?
Speaker 3: Oh god, oh this is really hard. This is so
Speaker 3: difficult to Oh, this is so difficult. I mean, dumb
Speaker 3: and Dumber might be up there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I laughed at that film Man that is up there.
Speaker 3: But you know also I just Napoleon Dynamite will make
Speaker 3: me laugh every every bit of it. There's just too
Speaker 3: many films.
Speaker 2: There's two.
Speaker 3: I mean, Airplane is just they're just you know, I
Speaker 3: know these are all obvious ones, I know, but they're
Speaker 3: so funny. The Castle, I love Australian telling me he's dreaming.
Speaker 3: We can't I quote stuff. I quote a lot, you
Speaker 3: know that kind of go ye, my husband's what do.
Speaker 2: You call this?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Ice cream? It's just I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: I just love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the Castle wor up there as well? What's it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The Hunt for the Wilder People. That's that's a joy
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, beautiful, beautiful, Yeah, Antipothy and stuff.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 1: Laura Smith, you have been an absolute joy. You've been brilliant,
Speaker 1: you've been wonderful, you've been deep, you've been funny, you've
Speaker 1: been amazing. However, when he was walking down the street
Speaker 1: and someone was shooting at a kid, and you were like,
Speaker 1: you were like, not not on my street. And you
Speaker 1: jumped in front of the bullet. Yeah, and because you're
Speaker 1: very fast, and the bullet hit you straight through the chest.
Speaker 1: Banks went for you but dead. He died, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: You died quite saying. The kid came and the kid
Speaker 1: said thank you, and the person shooting the kid went, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll never do this again. I've learned my lesson. And
Speaker 1: you said, that's right, you have. And then you said
Speaker 1: to the kid earned this, and then you and then
Speaker 1: you close your eyes. And I was walking past with
Speaker 1: a coffee. You know what I'm like, And I was
Speaker 1: like Laura and the kids, so, yeah, Laura just took
Speaker 1: a bullet from me, and I went, fuck, you know
Speaker 1: that was nice for her, Yes, she went, And the
Speaker 1: kid went, I don't even know her, but she has
Speaker 1: told me to earn this. I've probably got to live
Speaker 1: a good life now. And the guy with the guy
Speaker 1: and went, yeah, I actually feel bad about all of this,
Speaker 1: so I'm probably going to live a good life too.
Speaker 1: And I went, well, I'm glad you both learned your lesson.
Speaker 1: Could you help me with the body And they say, yeah,
Speaker 1: do you need? What do you need? I said, couple
Speaker 1: of axes? We get They grab a cup of as
Speaker 1: we chopped up, choppy up, chopped up, We get you
Speaker 1: in the cuff of stuff you're in. There's more than
Speaker 1: I was expecting. The coffin is absolutely rammed. There's only
Speaker 1: enough room in this coffin for me to side wind
Speaker 1: DVD into the side you'd take across to the other side.
Speaker 1: And in Chicken Wing Heaven as movie every night? What
Speaker 1: film are you taking to show the chicken wings in
Speaker 1: Chicken Wing Heaven when it's your movie night? Laura Smith?
Speaker 2: Oh, do you know what it is?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Because like I said, I'm so close to all my family.
Speaker 3: Everything's like by jewelry and well there's general consensus and everything.
Speaker 3: I feel like Harry met Sally. I share with my
Speaker 3: husband strettly bought my share with all all my sisters. Friday,
Speaker 3: I definitely just share with my brother, copied him. You
Speaker 3: know all of that stuff, right. I feel like my
Speaker 3: cousin Vinny is the film that's like, this is Matta,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I've got I've got a
Speaker 3: whole ki low of chicken wings and it's me.
Speaker 2: It's me and.
Speaker 3: Bring it outfits and it's perfect, perfect courtroom drama. Pisces
Speaker 3: all over, a few good men. I mean it's just perfect.
Speaker 3: It's the perfect thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's my cousin in here.
Speaker 1: Lauris Smith. Thank you. Is there anything you would like
Speaker 1: to tell people to look out for to watch for
Speaker 1: in the coming months with Laura Smith?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I am touring Bamier.
Speaker 3: I'm touring in the UK and Ireland, so there'll be
Speaker 3: a September October leg as well. A lot of the
Speaker 3: other stuff sold out Hatty Empire in June, so that's
Speaker 3: really exciting. And it's called Living My Best Life, which
Speaker 3: is slightly tongue in cheap but also really true.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Laura, I'd love this so much. Thank you
Speaker 1: for doing it. I have thank you for everything.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I think everyone's going to leave this a better person.
Speaker 2: And thank you kid, I say, did Laura, Oh nah, that.
Speaker 1: Is that's a bit of you. That jumping in front
Speaker 1: of the bullet for a kid you don't know.
Speaker 3: That's a bit of you, of course, and thank you,
Speaker 3: and just it's so exciting. All my family been so
Speaker 3: excited I'm doing this because it's such huge friends and
Speaker 3: you're such a start, and it's so exciting watching you.
Speaker 2: Do all the big, exciting, shiny things that I deserve.
Speaker 2: So shut shop shut, that's the secret.
Speaker 1: I want to go to your family for me and
Speaker 1: I will stop the recording and have a wonderful death.
Speaker 1: Good day to you, Laura. So that was episode two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight. Head over to the Patreon at
Speaker 1: patreon dot com forward Slash Brett gold Steam for the
Speaker 1: extra fifteen minutes of Chat Secrets beginnings and ending that
Speaker 1: video with Laura. Go cha, Apple Podcasts. Give us a five.
Speaker 1: Start writing and write about the films the most to
Speaker 1: you and why if you want, you don't have to
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want, live your life. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much to Laura for giving me her time.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening. I very much hope you're well.
Speaker 1: Go see Laura on tour. Thanks to Scooby, Pip and
Speaker 1: Distrac some pieces of Network. Thanks the Buddy Peace for
Speaker 1: producing it. Thanks to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's Big Money
Speaker 1: Players Network for hosting it. Thanks Adam Richison for the graphics,
Speaker 1: at least light them for the photography. Come and join
Speaker 1: me next week for an absolute banger of a guest.
Speaker 1: But I hope you're all well. That is it for now.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, thank you for listening, have a lovely week,
Speaker 1: and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each other.
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