1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Seventeen weeks have come and gone as we prepare for 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: the regular season finale of Vikings football this week, as 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: the team in Purple travels to the Windy City looking 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: for a win over the Chicago Bears. Happy Friday and 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: welcome to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. My name is Gabe Henderson. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: I am alongside Vikings dot COM's Tatum Everett as well 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: as producer Eric Davidson, and today's show is brought to 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: you courtesy of PEPSI. Bears Week is honestly always my 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: favorite week, simply because I'll Tatum, I know exactly who's 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: going to be our guest on the show, Miss ESPN's 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Courtney Cronin. In my opinion, I feel like she goes 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: from being an ESPN reporter to her old Vikings days 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: as a Vikings reporter this week simply because of all 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: of the requests, But I'm so happy to have her on. Yeah, 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: And I feel like also she fills in so much 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: during the holidays around on the ESPN campus and on 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: so many shows. She knows so much more than just 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the Bears and has a pulse on the entire league 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and is doing wonderful things since leaving Minnesota and going 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: back to her hometown of Chicago, so I'm excited to 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: have to talk to her in a little bit. She 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: calls the Windy City home. But I think it's going 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: to be a win dcity for Minnesota Vikings this week. 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I heard you say it kind of popped in my mind. 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: I had no plans of it. A win would be 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: best case scenario, which I want to talk to Courtney about, 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: but a lot of Vikings fans think a win is 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: not best case scenario for this team. I guess the 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: three seed means you play the New York Giants and 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, but I'm sure Kevin O'Connell does 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: not want to win. But for you, my question is, 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: you've been a part of every single game this year, 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: like myself, like Eric Davidson who's in the studio here, 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: and egan with this, how would you I mean, because 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: We've been asking so many different players, so many different analysts, 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: but I've never heard your opinion. How would you describe 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: this Viking season up to this point? I think this 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: season has been exciting. As pedestrian as that sounds, You're 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: in the games are always exciting for the most part, 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I could think of three that we're not exciting but 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: for the but but the odds are in our favor. Yeah, 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a great way to understand this 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff and what they hope to do for years 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to come. I still don't think we one hundred percent 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: know this team in and out and what their potential is. Yeah, 46 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: And so for me it is kind of exciting because 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: I feel like at twelve and four they've really only 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: scratched the surface about what this staff wants to do, 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: hopes to do and as they learn and grow themselves, 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: being you know, a first time head coach and Kevin 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: O'Connell a first time general manager in Quasia dopamenza. So yeah, 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I would say exciting as again, pedestrian as that sounds. 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: That's fair because it has been exciting and there's been 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: so many different moments that you can pull from and say, man, like, 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: this game felt so great and the fact that we've 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: won twelve games, winning cures everything makes our job easy. 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: But the word I would probably use this historically magical. 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Oh Okay, well that's two words. Yeah, but it's the 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: Y and the M we're just pushed together. Magical. Yeah, 60 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: there um. Just just from all this, I guess I 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: would just use historic. Um, but it's been magical. Yeah 62 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: you can have to this is this is your show. 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: You whatever you want, but historic, I mean you've got 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: two historic wins Buffalo Bills and then you have the 65 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: largest comeback against the Indianapolis Coats. But just some of 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: those magical walk offs by Greg Joseph Um, some of 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: these magical moments, um magic. Like I really still haven't 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: really put my finger on how to describe this team, 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: which is I don't know if that's a good or 70 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: bad thing at Week seven gam but yeah, we're gonna 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: find out this upcoming Sunday. But still, um, this has 72 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: been the most fun I've had covering a team since 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I've been working in the NFL. We talked about that 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: on the Audible a couple of weeks ago, So I'm 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing how how this shakes out, but 76 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: also looking forward to seeing what Courtney Cronin's thoughts on 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: this Vikings team will be, because I mean, she's covered 78 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: this team for so long, and I mean, I'm sure 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: when you got this job with the Vikings a couple 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: of years ago, you were still following the Tennessee Titans. 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: It's just like by default that you still have a love. 82 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: They were easy to forget. Also, wasn't in house, you know, 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I was a media memory. Yeah, kind of like what 84 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Courtney does. Yeah, I mean I was. No. I forgot 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: about them pretty fast. Okay, they were a fine team, 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: but I mean they've kind of been a bit crazy 87 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: since then. And that's another thing I think that's just 88 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: really interesting is that this team has such strong personalities. 89 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: The players have strong personalities, high quality leadership, a very 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: tight and locker room. It's all these things that as 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: a media member it's a privilege to cover. So I 92 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: think that also really kind of plays into the magical 93 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: sense of this season. Our guys that you'll remember forever, 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: you know that you covered, that you got to know, 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: and that you really didn't have any issues because as 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: you can see across the league, there have been several franchises, 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Titans kind of included that. You know, they catch the 98 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: headlines for all the wrong reasons, and they have losing 99 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: streaks and you know, so so we I feel like 100 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: this this team has been really special for sure, special 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: for sure. And now let's bring in our special guest, 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: Miss Courtney Cronin from ESPN. Courtney I was just asking Tatum, 103 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: you know when you when you leave teams and you 104 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: go to a new team, there's there's somewhat of an 105 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: affinity from your old team. And she was like, Nah, Titans, 106 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't really miss that team as much. But for 107 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: you covering the Vikings for for over five years and 108 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: um the second time this year that you'll be able 109 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: to see, you know, some familiar faces, how would you 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: describe just this Vikings team or this Viking season thus far? Yeah, 111 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that just being in the NFC 112 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: North and still covering the division, you you naturally keep 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: your eye on all the other teams. And to have 114 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: a team like Minnesota where you know they're the last 115 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: five years and saw them get into the playoffs, making 116 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: improbable run, missed the playoffs a couple of times, like 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: he saw the whole gamut. And to see what Kevin 118 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: O'Connell has done this year in his first season as 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: a head coach, with now a good portion of the 120 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: roster that's the same but some important new pieces from 121 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: that were different than last year, I think it's pretty remarkable. So, 122 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you look at a team 123 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: that has twelve wins right now, and yeah, there's been 124 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: some losses along the way that make you scratch your 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: head and ones that might foreshadow what happens in the postseason. 126 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: Who knows, because Green Bay, Dallas, Billy, those are all 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: teams that they could theoretically meet again. You know, it's 128 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: kind of it leads you to believe that this is 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: obviously a very talented team. But the jury is still 130 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: out and I think that it's the Viking Stills for like, 131 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: to the overall NFL fan kind of have to prove 132 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: that they earn their twelve wins and these one score 133 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: games that they've been in, we're not a fluke. And 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they've been a fluke. I think that 135 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: this is a very talented roster and the way that 136 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: it was constructed when you know, going back to March, 137 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: when the team talked about executing a competitive rebuild, like 138 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: they did that. And I think what Kirk Cousins has 139 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: done this season, in what Kevin O'Connell has been able 140 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: to get out of him, has been really impressive. To 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: watch that from AFAR not covering them every day anymore, 142 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: it's you can tell like the team has a different 143 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: feel around at different aura than the last couple of 144 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: years certainly, and it's nice to see that, you know, 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: they didn't have to start all the way over at 146 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: ground zero, but that there still is room for this 147 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: team to grow beyond this season and we'll see where 148 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: that goes. But right now you have a team primed 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: for a deep playoff push. I've sent this on national TV, 150 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, in previous weeks and months, and yeah, there's 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: been some times where you again scratch your head at 152 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: how did that happen against Dallas and how did that 153 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: happen on the road at lambeau Field this past weekend, 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: But you also look at, you know, the moments that 155 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: have been really exciting and really fun to watch and 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: show you just how talents that this team is. Otherwise, 157 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned building it up from ground zero. I feel 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: like that's something that the Bears front office, who knew 159 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: head coach new GM this season, much like the Vikings 160 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: that was their route this season and then the Vikings 161 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: obviously taking a different route and trying to just refill 162 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the cupboard a little bit. How would you compare the 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: two processes and obviously the two different you know seasons 164 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: because obviously there's a lot of parody there. What was 165 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: it like end of January, right after Kevin O'Connell got hired, 166 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: because it was Quacy first and then O'Connell, and I 167 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: had a chance to, you know, see two very different rebuilds, 168 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: kind of keeping my eye on Minnesota from afar and 169 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: then seeing up close what the Bears were doing. And 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't think there's I don't I mean, you can 171 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: look at both approaches and say, well, one's better than 172 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: the other because one teams in the postseason and one 173 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: team definitely not. But I don't think the Bears were 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: ever in position to do anything along the lines of 175 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: what Minnesota was trying to accomplish and execute this year. 176 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: They had a quarterback who was coming off of his 177 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: rookie season, whereas you had Kirk Cousins, who is an 178 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: experienced veteran who had just gotten another contract extension. You 179 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: start there, then everything else falls in place beyond that, 180 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: Like they let twenty plus free agents go last March. 181 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: That's a total rebuild when you're sending that many guys 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: out the door to start over, Like they were very 183 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: clear that they were going to rip this thing down 184 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: to the studs in Chicago and that they were going 185 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: to execute a long term rebuild because it wasn't a 186 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: roster that you can, you know, tweak a few things 187 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: here and there, retool this position, start over at this 188 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: position and expect things to be fine. That was never 189 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: going to be the case. And it just shows you 190 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: what a true rebuild looks like. That first year can 191 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: be really ugly. And there have been times too that 192 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: it's not just a lack of talent so to speak 193 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: for the Bears that's showing up. I mean, last week 194 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: against Detroit was an embarrassing loss for them, the way 195 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: that they gave up over five hundred yards of offense 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: to Detroit and no slouch, Like, you know, Detroit's no slouch, 197 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: especially at home they can put up points. But that's 198 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: also the thirty second past defense in the NFL. And 199 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: justin Fields completed seven passes, you know what I mean. Like, 200 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff there that I think shows 201 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: you in totality how difficult the season has been and 202 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: how difficult rebuilding seasons typically are. Yeah, that's a really 203 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: good point. And just when when you hear things like that, 204 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the NFC North, I feel like has found 205 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: their identity as of late. I mean, you see the 206 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Packers go on this went streak, that the Lions the 207 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: grits of the division. When do you think the Bears 208 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: will hit their future stride. Yeah, I think it's gonna 209 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: be a couple of years. Like again, you guys will 210 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: have a front row seat to it this week to 211 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: see just how talent deficient the Bears team is right now, 212 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: because think about how many injuries they have, Like we 213 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: just heard that they're not going to play Justin Fields 214 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: due to the hip injury. And it's a smart thing 215 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: to put him on ice for the rest of the 216 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: season because you don't get anything out of this game 217 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and they are in position potentially for the number one 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: overall draft pick. And that's not saying that's exactly why 219 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: they put Justine Fields on he does have a legit injury, 220 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: but it helps you if it's for the best case 221 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: scenario for your team, you don't play your quarterback. But 222 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: outside of that, you've got injuries everywhere. Your secondary at 223 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: the cornerback spot has been depleted by injuries. Same at Stafey. 224 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, the linebacker spot has been hit recently, so 225 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: You're going to see a lot of faces that you 226 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: won't see next year because this is a chance or 227 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: some young guys to get playing time, but young guys 228 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: that are probably not going to be part of what 229 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: the Bears are doing going forward. Like the roster turnover 230 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: from now to next year. At this time, it's gonna 231 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,479 Speaker 1: be pretty significant. Like a rebuild that has been executed 232 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: like this, a deliberate one that's gonna take time. I 233 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: don't think everybody can just go and expect to be 234 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals to do the worst to first one 235 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: year quick fix thing, because that's just not realistic. So 236 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: you look at this Bears team and you realize that 237 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of work done this 238 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: off season. They've got north of one hundred and eight 239 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: million dollars in caps. You can put a lot of 240 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: work in to make this thing better. But it's still 241 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: going to take time because yeah, you got draft picks, 242 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: you've got financial the financial ability to start building your roster. 243 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: But can you do that, like, I mean, that's where 244 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: general managers get get great at the highest Like can 245 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: they actually do with their resources what needs to be 246 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: done and have those things pan out? So that's you know, 247 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: Jerry's going to still be out, but I think this 248 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: will be a two to three year process before they're 249 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: like in true contention for winning the division. Corney, I 250 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: got some more questions. Tatum and I both have a 251 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: couple more questions for you, but we want to get 252 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: to the break and then get back to it. Defessil cap. Yeah, 253 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: that's not good. Don't try to doubt. We'll be right 254 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: back with more of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Hey, you 255 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,359 Speaker 1: Vikings fans. 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Tatum, Everett and I 264 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: are still joined by ESPN's Courtney Cronin, who is helping 265 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: us break down this Vikings verse Bears matchup noon on 266 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Sunday at Soldier Field and Courtney the team in Purple. 267 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: They come into this game with a dozen wins under 268 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: their belt. They're already a lock for at least one 269 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: home game in the NFC playoffs. Best case scenario for 270 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: this Vikings team is for me, at least is to win. 271 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: I know fans might say lose and get the three 272 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: C but best case scenario is at least win and 273 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: leave Chicago with no injuries. On the opposite end, you 274 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: were talking about the Bears offseason. What is the best 275 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: case scenario for the Monsters of Midway this Sunday. Best 276 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: case is that they lose and that Houston wins, because 277 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: that would give Chicago the number one draft pick, where 278 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: right now they have the number two draft pick. And 279 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: of course they're not really in the market for a quarterback, 280 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: so it's not like they necessarily need that number one pick, 281 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: but the leverage you have to trade back to a 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: mass more draft capital future first round pick for Chicago 283 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: losing is the best thing. I know that that's a 284 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: weird thing to say, but like, honestly, this is a 285 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: season they weren't set up to win in the first place. 286 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: And it's not like they were attempting to lose games, 287 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: but they weren't constructed to win. So it's kind of 288 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: this double edged sword of try to evaluate what you 289 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: can with the talent that you have, but also the 290 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: result at the end of the day, Like you know, 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: if you have fewer wins, it's going to help your 292 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: case in terms of building this roster, but you're going 293 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: to get a better draft pick. But yeah, that's I 294 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: mean it. I don't think it'll be hard for the 295 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Bears to do that because you know, Nathan Peterman's playing 296 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: at quarterback. He hasn't started a game since he was 297 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: with Buffalo, you know, four years ago. The offensive line 298 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: is banged up. The receiver group is you know, questionable 299 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: at best. I mean, we haven't really seen anybody stick there. 300 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: After Darnell Mooney went down with injury in Week eleven. 301 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot left to the jury is still 302 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: out on the rest of this team. So I think 303 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: the position of Minnesota's in right now, and I know 304 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: that Kevin O'Connell said that some starters will play. I 305 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: would imagine that we'll see the Vikings. I mean, they 306 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: can't scoreboard watch because that forty nine Ers game is 307 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: until after in the afternoon. But they're going to be 308 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: in a spot where I imagine they play some starters, 309 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: but they're not trying to risk at all for a 310 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Week eighteen game that truly probably won't matter because frankly, 311 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't think San Francisco's losing the Arizona and I 312 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: don't think the two season play. And if we're talking 313 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: like realistically to the Vike game, it is kind of 314 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: crazy to think that this game is a little bit, 315 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, a little bit more meaningless. It's it's 316 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: always stacked up in the past couple of years, where 317 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, the Vikings and Bears are playing for something 318 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: on Week eighteen, and it's reflective in this noon start. 319 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Hasn't been a noon start for this Chicago Bears Vikings 320 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: game since twenty fifteen at Soldier Field game into the 321 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: eighteen That game, I want to say, was moved to 322 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: I think that one was flexed into three twenty five 323 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: because that was the game that the Bears pulled their 324 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: starters after halftime and the Vikings had to back their way. 325 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: They had to win that game. To go to the 326 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: postseason and they lost. So it is interesting though, Tatum, 327 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: you bring that up because like, the Bears and Vikings 328 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: have been this week seventeen Week eighteen game for a 329 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: long time, and there have been times where you know, 330 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: the Bears have put the Vikings out of the postseason. 331 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Then then we remember last year, like the game didn't 332 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: matter for either team and we kind of had a 333 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: feeling that both coaching staff We're not going to be 334 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: around the next day. So, I mean, it's a lot 335 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: different this year because you I mean, the Bears don't 336 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: have anything to play for, is like in the short term, 337 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: but Minnesota is already a playoff team. It's just can 338 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: you improve your positioning or not, and doesn't feel realistic 339 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: that they can. And staying healthy, staying healthy for this 340 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: team is huge. I'm sure you've been watching. I saw 341 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: you retweet the injury report. There have been several injuries 342 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and that stacks up against a 343 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: Bears defense who is It's different looking time from the 344 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: first time we played them, with them wheeling and dealing 345 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: to get that cap space opened, as you mentioned, so 346 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't really know what to expect from this game. 347 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: If I'm honest with you, Courtney, I really don't. I 348 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: just think it'll be ugly, and I think that, you know, 349 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: that's what you expect for a team that's not playing 350 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: at starting quarterbacks, that has so many injuries. To your 351 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: point of the defense, you know, this defense, hopefully for 352 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Chicago's sake, will look different next year because they don't 353 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: pressure opposing quarterbacks. That's their biggest problem. And you know, 354 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: last time that these two teams played, both Robert Quinn 355 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: and you know Roplunt Smiths, we're both on this team. 356 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later they were treated at the deadline. 357 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: So it's not like they've mean they were. They weren't 358 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: great when those two guys were on the team. Anyways, 359 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: It's not like anything's fallen off a cliffs since then. 360 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: I think they've just kind of remained status quo that 361 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: they're struggling defense that isn't able to get pressure on 362 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks. And that's not I mean, they've tried to 363 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: fix it in season by dialing up more blitzes because 364 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: they're not it's not a standard like they want to 365 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: get pressure with their standard pass rush. That's what they 366 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: do schematically, that's like the philosophy behind the defense. But 367 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: they're going to have to change things in the offseason 368 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: if they want to buck that trend, because you can't 369 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: put pressure on opposing quarterbacks and force them sit high 370 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: in the pocket and you're not going to be in 371 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: a good spot going forward. And that's something that the 372 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: Bears had to learn the hard way this year. For sure. 373 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: I want to close this thing out with the business 374 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: side of it. UM Kevin Warren, former Viking COO. He's 375 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: now the Big Ten commissioner. Um. There was some news, 376 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: as I guess of last week that he was in 377 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: the running for the heads I guess, the CEO job 378 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears. Any any truth to that and 379 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: if so, what does that mean for the Chicago Bears 380 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: going for I guess with the news of trying to 381 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: build a stadium in the business and I guess moving 382 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: the team to a to a different city. Yeah, no, 383 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: there is truth to it that is valid. And you know, 384 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: the Bears have known about this interview that apparently took place, 385 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: happened recently, and they've they've been looking for candidates for 386 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: this job for a while now. Ted Phillips and officially 387 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: announced his retirement last September, and they've had now nine 388 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: months or you know, just under that to be able 389 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: to figure this thing out about who the candidates are 390 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: going to be. And I think what's appealing about someone 391 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: like Kevin Warren, who the humongous part of why US 392 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: Banks Stadium got built. It jumped through all of that 393 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: red tape. Like that's something that the Bears are currently 394 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: just in the very beginning stages of, like if they 395 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: can their goals for twenty early quarter of this year 396 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is to close on land out at 397 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: Arlington Park. And if they're able to do that, which 398 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: we imagine they will, like they're not building a shopping 399 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: mall out there, they're building a stadium. So you have 400 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: to bring somebody in who knows how to do that. 401 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: You know. I'm sure that you know, both Ziggie and 402 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: Mark Wills would would speak very highly of what Kevin 403 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: Warren's contributions were there to be able to get such 404 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: an incredible venue in US Bank Stadium erected in Minnesota. 405 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: And that's what that's what the Bears want, I mean. 406 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: And when we've talked with George McCaskey, a chairman of 407 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: the Bears, just about some of the places they've been recently, 408 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: whether it was Sofi Stadium, last year they went to 409 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: Allegian Stadium in Vegas, you know, this year the Bears 410 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: were in Atlanta. Of course they were in Minnesota. Like, 411 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: you look around the league and you see, okay, those 412 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: are things that we might like in a stadium. This 413 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: would be a good idea to be able to have 414 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: somebody who can guide that and direct you know, the 415 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: direction of the team is going, like that's super important. 416 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: So I would not be surprised if we hear in 417 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: a couple of we, you know, right when the season 418 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: wraps up the week, maybe it's next week, maybe it's 419 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: the week thereafter, that they'll have a new team president. 420 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: It would not at all surprise me. One. I hope 421 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: that they decide to dome it as well. I think 422 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: the conditions for this field are kind of reputable for 423 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: not being the greatest, and after watching the Vikings players 424 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: slip and slide over Lambeau Field, the thirty degree temperatures, 425 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: chance of snow on Sunday makes me a little nervous 426 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: for that, especially as you saw a couple of offensive 427 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: linemen go down for us last week. So yeah, I'm 428 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: just there's no question that, Courtney. I'm just hoping for 429 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: a dome, that's all. Well, it's fortunately like the one 430 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: meeting that we had last year that happened like just 431 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: kind of the initial stages of this is what they 432 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: want to do to develop the property. They didn't really 433 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: talk much about the stadium specifically, but they did say 434 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: that stadium would be domed. It's not going to have 435 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: a retractable roof, which I know bothers some people. I'm 436 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: of the belief football should be played indoors and that 437 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have rain delays, weather delays, no delays, anything 438 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: like that in twenty twenty three. So I am in 439 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: full support along like the lines of what you think 440 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Tatum about having indoor football. Yeah, and I'm sure the 441 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: players will love that too, with grass instead of our 442 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: artificial turf surface. I know that's a conversation for another day, 443 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: but Courtney, looking forward to looking forward to connecting with 444 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: you as Soldier Field on Sunday, Vikings versus Bears at 445 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: Soldier Field noon kickoff. You can listen to that game 446 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: right here on the Vikings Radio Network. Courtney, thank you 447 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: again Yeah, no problem. Thank you guys for Tatum Everett, 448 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Eric Davison, Courtney Cronin. My name is Gabe Henderson. We'll 449 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: talk to you next week.