WEBVTT - What is Wrong With the Warriors?

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<v Speaker 1>They're tuned into Heat Check. But just a quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check, we answer a

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<v Speaker 2>very important question, what is happening with our dubs? Our

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<v Speaker 2>dubs are in pre fall right now, and I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know what is going on folks. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Golden State episode. We break down everything. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>do we get into my opinions, but we also are

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<v Speaker 2>joined by two special guests, The light Years Boys, two

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<v Speaker 2>of the hottest podcasters on these blue wire streets. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're honestly probably the best follow on Twitter for

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<v Speaker 2>a team duo, like somebody that covers an NBA team.

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<v Speaker 2>Their engagements through the roof. They're funny as fuck. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not afraid to say what truth it is, and so we.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to the truth. What's happening with our dubs?

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<v Speaker 2>So much to get into Nick drop that beat by

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<v Speaker 2>now you probably know you probably know the truth about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with the Golden State Warriors. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you're living under a rock right now, Warriors as we

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<v Speaker 2>sit are six and nine. It's bad and oh and

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<v Speaker 2>eight on the road, oh and eight on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>losing to teams like the Detroit Pistons, like the Orlando

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<v Speaker 2>Magic like the Charlotte Hornets without LaMelo, the worst start

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<v Speaker 2>ever in history for any defending champion ever, that's a stat.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, things are not going as well as they thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Things started about as bad as possible before the season

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<v Speaker 2>even began.

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<v Speaker 3>As we all know.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know this, I don't know, you must

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<v Speaker 2>not be following the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The Warriors got involved with what Steve Kerr called the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest crisis in his time with the team, The punch

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<v Speaker 2>heart around the world. Draymond Green cold cocked Jordan Poole

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<v Speaker 2>and knocked him smooth a fuck out, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>video was leaked, and then that was even worse. The

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors had to go into full crisis mode. Draymond is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be suspended. They're finding in somebody who's they're

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<v Speaker 2>running an investigation, who's the one who leaked the video

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<v Speaker 2>and sold it to DMZ? And you know what, nothing's

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<v Speaker 2>really ever been good since. Like Jordan Poole, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who got cold cocked, he hasn't been the same. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not starting. He was six Man of the Year of Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't been good. The whole season has been one

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<v Speaker 2>long crisis after crisis. But it all comes to a

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<v Speaker 2>head last night, two nights ago, because you're probably listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this on Friday, absolute ass whooping by the Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>Suns one thirty to one nineteen, and what's stepf do

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<v Speaker 2>on that night? Check's notes had fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Put up fifty points a fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Nugget piece, and you know what, he didn't seem happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of that a historic night for Steph and the

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<v Speaker 2>team basically still.

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<v Speaker 3>Got blown out.

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<v Speaker 2>Before last night, Steph had fifty or more ten times

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<v Speaker 2>in his career. Think about that, actually, for just one second.

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry has had fifty points or more ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Times or more. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They've only lost twice in those ten times. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line about this loss. If Steph Curry puts

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<v Speaker 2>up thirty a normal thirty point night, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>he's averaging right now, this team loses by thirty one points.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much how the game felt not close. Mikal Bridges

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely sunned Klay Thompson on the bench, splashing a three

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<v Speaker 2>and then throwing the three fingers in Clay's face to

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<v Speaker 2>essentially Clay for throwing up four for four rings just

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<v Speaker 2>like three more points and you guys face.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say it's rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottom right now for our dubs. Right now, our dubs

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<v Speaker 2>are in peril. We need to support them, and we

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<v Speaker 2>need to identify what's going wrong, and we need to

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<v Speaker 2>really sort of analyze and diagnose how it gets better.

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<v Speaker 2>The Light Years boys called it the worst loss of

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<v Speaker 2>the year by far. So what is wrong in Golden State?

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<v Speaker 2>I have five things that I think are wrong. One,

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<v Speaker 2>no depth or veteran role players. Two claim is booboo

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Three they have a bottom three defense in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. Trash defense the thing that the Warriors do

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<v Speaker 2>really well, they suck at. Four young guys that are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to step up not performing in some ways regressing.

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<v Speaker 3>And five the vibes are bad. It's bad vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>All the things you think of when you think of

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors, the shimmying the night night, the pretending to

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<v Speaker 2>boo boo on the court, None of those things, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>he does that. None of those things are happening right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing not the three turn around look at the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a smile, not a wink, not a laugh. So

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<v Speaker 2>first and foremost, let's talk about the no depth, none

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<v Speaker 2>for a team that was rolling twelve deep last year.

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<v Speaker 2>The guys off the bench this season have largely.

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<v Speaker 3>Been on milk cartons.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the players off the championship team who are

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<v Speaker 2>no longer with the Warriors. Naman be A Lecha. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Damian Lee, Gary Payton is Second, Otto Porter, Juan Toscano,

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<v Speaker 2>Anderson Jta, Quinn Weatherspoon, and Chris Chiosa. Like, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>don't think this is like a good role player. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this like this doesn't move you. But if this doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>move you, let me introduce you to the role players now,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's really bad. None of those guys, with the

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<v Speaker 2>exception of Gary Payton the second is really known to

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<v Speaker 2>any non Warriors fan. But you take him as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>and they all play well. They all know their role.

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<v Speaker 2>Damian Lee was really really good. Anno Porter was a

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<v Speaker 2>plus fourteen in the nineteen playoff games last year and

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<v Speaker 2>a plus one ten overall for the playoffs. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good for a guy off the bench. Gary Payton was

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<v Speaker 2>a combined plus thirty five in his final five games

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<v Speaker 2>against the Celtics. Damian Lee spent four years in the

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors system. Toscano Anderson three those guys knew the ropes,

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<v Speaker 2>they knew what Warriors basketball look like. They replaced those

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<v Speaker 2>vets with Jamichael Green and Dante DiVincenzo, two players with

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<v Speaker 2>zero experience playing in the Golden State system. So is

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<v Speaker 2>it a shock that the Warriors are falling apart when

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<v Speaker 2>the second unit is on the floor. And now you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Jordan Poole that has to be the floor general.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, they don't call.

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<v Speaker 2>It a pool pool regiment.

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<v Speaker 3>They call it the pool party. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>They call it the pool party. Pool Jordan Pool wants

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<v Speaker 2>to come in and get buckets. It's not, uh, the

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<v Speaker 2>pool orchestra, you know, it's the pool party. We're getting

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<v Speaker 2>fucking lit, you know what I'm saying. And now Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Poole has to be the guy that runs this ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't They don't call it the pool pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Clay Clay top is just terrible. Just said bad. It's

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<v Speaker 3>booboo right now. And I hate to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Clay Thompson. Clay Thompson grew up in Portland.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a special love for Portland guys. John Hollinger

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<v Speaker 2>said this, and I was like, damn, damn, it's so true,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's such a shot, it's like a it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a knife to the heart. John Hollinger said, quote, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think I'd have Klay Thompson turning into Russell Westbrook

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<v Speaker 2>on my bingo card. But here we are. Problem is

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<v Speaker 2>that savage statements kind of true. Is not Clay is

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<v Speaker 2>He is in a slump. He's in a terrible shooting slump.

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<v Speaker 3>He is not himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is, let's be honest, it's hurting the Warriors,

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<v Speaker 2>hurting the Warriors in every single facet of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's one of the best shooters of our generation.

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<v Speaker 2>And what his shooters do when they're in a slump,

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<v Speaker 2>they fucking keep shooting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you seen Russell Westbrook, That's what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's not even a shooter. And the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem with that little mentality is the Warriors are losing

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<v Speaker 2>games because he's chucking from the logo and he's bricking

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone knows, his teammates included, no, that's shit's not

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<v Speaker 2>going in soon.

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<v Speaker 3>As as soon as he lets it fly, everyone starts.

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<v Speaker 2>To look the other way, to go back on defense,

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<v Speaker 2>and not because he's gonna make it, not because he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had exactly one.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty point scoring game this year. He has had eight

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<v Speaker 2>games with five or more mysteries. He is shooting an

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<v Speaker 2>atrocious thirty five percent from the field, not from three

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<v Speaker 2>from the field this year, and worse, everything is drawing

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<v Speaker 2>the front of the rim. He's got no lift in

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<v Speaker 2>his legs. We'll get into that. But it all came

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<v Speaker 2>to a head last night because not only was Klay

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson two nights ago, not only was he terrible six

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<v Speaker 2>for seventeen from the field, three for nine from three,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just the teammates looking at him like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck are you doing? Steph just looking resigned,

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<v Speaker 2>like like, Steph, if you look back at the tape,

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<v Speaker 2>because I did this afternoon. He's Steph's just like he's

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<v Speaker 2>got his hands in the air. As soon as Clay

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<v Speaker 2>lets it fy Jordan Poole, he puts his.

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<v Speaker 3>Hand on his head.

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<v Speaker 4>Who does that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh no, yes, Draymond shaking his head, just ugh, yuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Three seconds into the shot clock. Two seconds into the

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<v Speaker 2>shot clock, chuck, chuck. Very crucial point in time too,

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<v Speaker 2>in the third quarter, when is the last ask mean, riddle,

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<v Speaker 2>mean this, when is the last time you have ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen Steph Curry look absolutely exasperated by Klay Thompson like

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<v Speaker 2>this fucking guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Never never? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is now only. So this is and Clay

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<v Speaker 2>Clay wasn't bad in the finals or in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people are like, oh, he's never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the same again. He's not at full strength.

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<v Speaker 2>That injury really fucked him up. And to that, I say, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna be twenty nineteen Clay again. However, he

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<v Speaker 2>averaged nineteen four.

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<v Speaker 3>And two in the playoffs. It's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>He averaged seventeen three and two in the finals. That

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<v Speaker 2>was five months ago. So why is he so bad

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<v Speaker 2>right now? This is what I think happened. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing some thinking. I put my thinking cap on and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get into the Claye Thompson soul.

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<v Speaker 1>One.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he played great, and then you go into

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<v Speaker 2>an off season and you've been partying and celebrating and

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<v Speaker 2>now you need to get back into it. But what

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<v Speaker 2>happened the last time you were in an off season

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<v Speaker 2>where you weren't just rehabbing or rehabbing and rehabbing, because

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, Clay Thompson wasn't able to play pickup

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<v Speaker 2>games last summer.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in a pt room, stretching out his acl

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<v Speaker 2>doing work on his achilles, doing mobility stuff, doing strength work.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't up and down at Lifetime Fitness with Devin Booker. No,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is the first year he was able to

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<v Speaker 2>really do those off season runs that they talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>five on five drills all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So what does he do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, I'm good, I'm not gonna do that

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where I pop my achilles last time.

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<v Speaker 3>So he stays away.

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<v Speaker 2>There's articles written about Klay Thompson is not doing pickups,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not doing scrimmages, none of that. His training camp

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<v Speaker 2>he comes in late and he's out of shape. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean not out of shape for you and me, but

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<v Speaker 2>out of shape for an NBA player, and his conditioning

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<v Speaker 2>has declined. And thus, when he starts playing games, when

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<v Speaker 2>your conditioning isn't right and your legs don't have lyft

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not strong or you know, endurance, which only

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<v Speaker 2>comes from playing basketball, not from doing anything else, you

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<v Speaker 2>can only do it by playing basketball when that conditioning

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<v Speaker 2>is not up to par and you're playing thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a game. Now you're hitting the front of the room

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<v Speaker 2>in your threes. Now you don't have lyft. Now you're

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<v Speaker 2>not able to sustain a full game and play at

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<v Speaker 2>that level. So now your performance is declining. And now

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<v Speaker 2>what happens me Shannon Sharp, Skit Bayless, Steve all these.

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<v Speaker 3>Pundits are who else?

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Barkley, Clay's not the same, Clay's washed. Something's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with Clay. I don't know, man, he shouldn't be on

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<v Speaker 2>this team. He's never gonna return back to where he was.

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<v Speaker 2>And Clay's like, dude, I'm still getting back to where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to be. I didn't play any basketball this offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>You're bad, Clay. But also I get it. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>trauma does, that's how mental anguish works.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got his.

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<v Speaker 2>Own stuff to work out, and then what happens when

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<v Speaker 2>the world comes after him emotionally. It's the first time

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<v Speaker 2>that Clay physically isn't able to do what he wants

0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and everyone has expectations that he will, and emotionally that

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<v Speaker 2>shit has a toll. And now he's fighting with Ronnie

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<v Speaker 2>two qu over his rating and he's calling him a clown,

0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's popping off at Devin Booker getting ejected from games.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's doing articles with Ramona Shelbourne on his sailboat,

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<v Speaker 2>and now he's doing one on ones with Chris Haynes.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you're like, I think Clay's in his feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Clay. Now he's saying, listen, just remember I

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<v Speaker 2>was a part of those four championships. Never forget that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still that guy. And it's like, Yo, Clay, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>ever said you weren't a part of those four championships.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just saying you're boo boo right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kurz comments show that this theory has some truth

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 5>It took a lot of quick shots.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Clay continues to come down and try to shoot his

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<v Speaker 5>way out of an early season slump every night, and

0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:43.400
<v Speaker 5>he's he's pressing, and he's pressing tonight. And the guy's

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<v Speaker 5>got a lot of weight on his shoulders with the

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<v Speaker 5>injuries and where he feels like he is right now

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<v Speaker 5>where he wants to be, you know, So we have

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<v Speaker 5>to help Clay, help him get out of his own way.

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<v Speaker 3>And when he get out of his own way, get.

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<v Speaker 5>Through his frustration, the game will come to him and

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<v Speaker 5>he'll be He'll be fine, and he's going to play

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<v Speaker 5>at a really high level because he's still got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Clay still got it. But right now he's he's playing

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<v Speaker 5>in a frustrated manner. It's leading to a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>quick shots and he knows that, and we've got to

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<v Speaker 5>help him through that. And we know how much Clay

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<v Speaker 5>has done for this franchise and and our city, the

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<v Speaker 5>Bay Area, So we're going to help him, help him

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<v Speaker 5>through it, and he's going to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Support Clay, support him. So I don't think that this

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<v Speaker 2>is a long term problem. I think he just needs

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<v Speaker 2>to get back in a condition he eventually will be himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never gonna be twenty nineteen Clay again. But that

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<v Speaker 2>pure shot doesn't go away. But in the present, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, he's had not one but two interviews dropped

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<v Speaker 2>this week, one from Chris Haynes, one from Ramona Shelburne,

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<v Speaker 2>and they feel very email. Honestly, he's trending right now

0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.640
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter at this very moment, and Clay returning to

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<v Speaker 2>some version of at least where he was in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs last year is absolutely critical and if he doesn't,

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<v Speaker 2>it's night night sleep mask for them. Number three, This

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<v Speaker 2>is a bad defense, like just really bad, top three

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<v Speaker 2>or bottom three defense in the league, top three worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Only the Rockets, Pistons, and.

0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Spurs have a worse defense than the Golden State Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I don't know if it's because a Gary

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<v Speaker 2>Payton not being there, maybe because Clay isn't mobile right

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<v Speaker 2>now as he's getting back into things. He's a big

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<v Speaker 2>two way defender for them. Andrew Wiggins can't do it all.

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<v Speaker 2>But they are fucking horrible, like horrible defense, currently ranked

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh in the NBA one fourteen point one, after

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<v Speaker 2>being second in the league at one point. In another

0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.520
<v Speaker 2>number one in the league, they were just like a

0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:59.720
<v Speaker 2>little ball constrictor on really great offenses like Boston. They

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<v Speaker 2>may Boston look like they were kids, like they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to play basketball. They are twenty second in

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<v Speaker 2>steals right now. They were fourth last year, twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 2>in blocks. They're in a defensive rebounding percentage they were

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<v Speaker 2>sixth that that last year. They're twenty second and second

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<v Speaker 2>chance points given up. They were ninth last year. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just a terrible defense, just in every way, like

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<v Speaker 2>top the bottom, just trash. And I think some of

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<v Speaker 2>this is obviously because those good defenders are missing, but

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<v Speaker 2>the returning players aren't as good as they were last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Either.

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<v Speaker 2>Clay's not good, Looney's not good, Jordan Poole is never good.

0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Draymond Green is playing okay, but not nearly to the

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<v Speaker 2>elite level that they need them to. Are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to be Boogle? Probably not well they have

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<v Speaker 2>an elite defense, definitely not unless they have a trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Barring a trade, this defense is middle of the road

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<v Speaker 2>at best. Number four young guys not performing. Joe lacub

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<v Speaker 2>is like so fond of saying, we've got these two timelines.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got two timelines.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the young guys, We've got the dynasty guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all gonna operate together and it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>flow seamlessly. You've got Staph Clay Dre and then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the young guns that are the next generation of stars,

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<v Speaker 2>like Kaminga and Moody, and he wants them both to

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<v Speaker 2>coexist and play basketball together on the court the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So sure that's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Last year they thought that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a win for the two timelines.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it a win?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Why because the young guys didn't play a fucking lick

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<v Speaker 2>when it mattered, right, They didn't. Wiseman wasn't around all year,

0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Moody played very rarely in the playoffs. Kaminga played spot minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>They did not need them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like eight veterans.

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<v Speaker 4>It would all have got a little bit of minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a veteran obviously for them.

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<v Speaker 4>But the problem is not only.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the young players playing bad, like they're unusable in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways, they have regress to the point where James

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<v Speaker 2>Wiseman has been sent down indefinitely to the G League.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan kaminga horrible, horrible He had a promising rookie year.

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<v Speaker 2>He was averaging nine three to one on limited minutes.

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.320
<v Speaker 2>He's averaging five to two and one to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where they're just not using him now.

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 3>Moses Moody or Moses Mody, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was supposed to take a huge jump. Everybody was saying

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<v Speaker 2>how good he looked in Summer League. Everybody was saying

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.239
<v Speaker 2>he was supposed to be the next big thing. How

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<v Speaker 2>much he could help them, and you know what, he's

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<v Speaker 2>regressed in every single category.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Poole.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Poole just got paid one hundred and twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars guaranteed, got on teed and he sucks. He

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<v Speaker 2>won't shoot. He's like, as soon as he got knocked

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck out, it's like he forgot he was a shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>He's averaging thirteen a game off the bench. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>minus ninety five for the season. And we already talked

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<v Speaker 2>about Wiseman. I talked to a couple of high up

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Warriors folks at the summer League about this team and

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<v Speaker 2>how good they were going to be and what we

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<v Speaker 2>should expect from them. And obviously, since I'm a loyal

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Dubs fan that I am just lifelong, I said, uh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously this is champion ship team again, right, this championship

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.560
<v Speaker 2>caliber team. And they said, you know now that our

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 2>role players like Gary Payton and Auto Porter are gone,

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Bill Leach is gone. If Kaminga and Moody aren't good,

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 2>this team isn't. We're not gonna be good, period. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, ooh, that's saying a lot. They're like,

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.920
<v Speaker 2>we need them to be good in order for this

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 2>team to be good. And let me say this, that

0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 2>does not bode well for this team whatsoever, because neither

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 2>one of them are being used, let alone good. Safe

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to say the two timeline thing is not working out

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<v Speaker 2>like they were hoping it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Number five, most importantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible vibes that the Warriors have just terrible. Still put

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<v Speaker 2>up fifty right against the Suns. I did not see

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 2>him laugh one time. We never saw shimmy one time.

0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:58.200
<v Speaker 2>This team is used to having fun, beating up on everybody, laughing, dancing,

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 2>boobooing on the core. All these things. There were teams

0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that wins with constant motion, stifling defense, beautiful passes and

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.959
<v Speaker 2>of course just like killer threes, a barrage of threes,

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 2>a deluge of threes, a tropical hurricane of threes, and joy,

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 2>lots of joy, no joy. The vibes are just abysmal

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 3>They feel.

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<v Speaker 2>If you saw this team and their lack of enthusiasm,

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 2>you would think this was a team that hadn't won

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 2>anything in like the last twenty years, Like this is

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the Orlando Magic, Orlando Magic having more fun than the Warriors.

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Detroit Pistons when they beat the shit out of the

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Warriors in Detroit, which I was live for. They look

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 2>like they were having a lot more fun than the Warriors,

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's because Draymond Greed decided he wanted

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.160
<v Speaker 2>to punch his teammate. That doesn't go away, folks, that doesn't.

0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't just like get over that he physically assaulted

0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:54.880
<v Speaker 2>his teammate. He's still with the team and the other

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 2>guy's still with the team, and I think that's a

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 2>vibe killer. The Warriors were a team that everyone used

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.679
<v Speaker 2>to fear, and now it feels like no one is

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.639
<v Speaker 2>afraid of them. Things are so bad right now that

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Steve Kirk compared how the Warriors are playing to what

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<v Speaker 2>to what like the the Detroit Pistons, to what like

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the OKAC thunder No to the Drew League, to the

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 2>fucking Drew League where guys who don't even play in

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the league come to become something European players, guys who.

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<v Speaker 3>Just are off the streets. This is what you had

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:32.920
<v Speaker 3>to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like, I think, if you know, when you come

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.959
<v Speaker 5>down and you don't make a team guard and you

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 5>just shoot the first open shot, guys aren't tired at all.

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 5>They're not having to fight defensively, so everybody comes down

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 5>and they're feeling good, Like I didn't even have to

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 5>guard at the other end.

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 6>Now I'm wide open.

0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.359
<v Speaker 5>They're playing in transition, a lot of long rebounds leading

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 5>to transitions, so you're out of out of place defensively.

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 5>So there's no collective grit. We lack grit right now.

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 5>And if when you don't have grit, the game is

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 5>really easy for the other team. These are NBA players.

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 5>They spent all summer shooting thousands of jump shots, just like.

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 6>Our guys too.

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 5>And so when those jumpers are are easy and the

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 5>game is easy and they don't feel feel any physicality, Uh,

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 5>it's a Drew League game we're playing. We're playing a

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 5>Drew League game right now.

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yikes. Yikes.

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 3>In other words, there's no execution.

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 2>It's basically just to pick up guys with Klay Thompson

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>chucking five seconds into the shot, cluck, my.

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 5>Lord, We're never gonna panic, Like, there's no point in

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, in panicking. What we have to do is

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 5>is stay with it and uh and and find it.

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 5>But in order to find it, we've got to we've

0:23:55.640 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 5>got every get everybody on on board, on on on

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 5>the same page in terms of just worrying about winning,

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 5>and that's it. And I think for you know, for

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 5>right now anyway, I think we're just scattered or it's

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 5>a pickup game. You know, it's a pickup game out there.

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 5>So there's no no execution at either end, no no

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 5>sort of commitment to the group to get three stops

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 5>in a row to execute on offense. And it obviously

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 5>starts with me. I'm the coach of the team, So

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 5>I have to figure out a way to get that

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 5>that production, that sort of commitment to the team and

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 5>to each other and to winning that that it's going

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 5>to require.

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Basically, what that translates to is that my players aren't

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 2>doing what I'm telling them to do, but for whatever reason,

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I can't motivate them. So I'm going to take the

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 2>blame instead of blame them to the point where they

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.719
<v Speaker 2>tune me out even more. That's what that means. The

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Warriors dynasty, as we know, has been built on quick

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 2>scoring runs.

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 4>You go and grab a drink.

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 2>By the time they come back, you come back, they've

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>gone on a fifteen seventeen oh run.

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 3>That's what they do.

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 2>They shimmy shimmy, they shake, they clown, they rock the baby,

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 2>they go night night, and then you're getting none of

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 2>that this year, not zero. A lot of that I

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>think is due to the incident, the Draymond incident, and

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I think some way they're gonna have to get over that.

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 2>But all of that to say, I need help. I

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>need help from the light Years Boys. What is going on?

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Our dubs obviously are in trouble. If they don't fix things,

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 2>they could be partying like it's twenty twenty, twenty twenty

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>one all over again, losing in the play on tournament,

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>all the way out of the plan. Hate to see it,

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>So let's go to our guys to get their take.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Sam svin Diari and Andy luch All right, let's welcome

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 2>in SAMs Vandiari, who comes in late because he has

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 2>a million jobs, and Andy Lou to the show.

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Sam and Andy.

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>They host one of my favorite podcasts on the Blue

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Wire Network called light Year's Podcast, a reference to the

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 2>fact that the Warriors are light years ahead of everyone else,

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>which I think is low key kind of awesome. Since

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a huge Stubbs fan, the boys are the go

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>to for all things Warriors.

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 3>We did in an hour interview.

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 2>They were really generous and gracious with their time in

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the work day.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 3>We talked about how.

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Much the punches loomed over the season, which was a lot.

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.439
<v Speaker 2>What is up with Klay Thompson, how do they fix that?

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 2>How do they think that gets fixed? Can the Warriors

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 2>season be fixed? And what will that take? And is

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant still a possible Warrior for trade? Some surprising

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 2>answers from two of the most tapped in guys, probably

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>some of the best follows in the NBA and in

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the Warriors space. Great interview, So let's get into it.

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Our listeners aren't as.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Tuned in or plugged in on every detail of what's

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 2>going on with the Warriors. So I think you guys

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>are the really the vein and the artery into the

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 2>soul of what the fan base feels on this team.

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to get you on when it happened.

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 2>What were you like thinking? What was your take on

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 2>it when it happened? What's your take on it now?

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so, look, this is when it happened. I was

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>actually shocked. So we knew as Warriors fans that Draymond

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't happy that he was not in line to get

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>an extension. Versus Jordan Poole, I think Jordan Pools specifically,

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>not not so much Andrew Wiggins, but the feeling around

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the team in the offseason was that everything was happy.

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Poole is happy, Draymond's happy. Raymond came out on

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a press conference said, hey, listen, I know that at

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>this point in my career, it makes a lot more

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>sense for someone like Jordan Pule to get his money first.

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And so we all it was great. They went to Japan.

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Everyone was petting porcupines and Draymond was speaking Japanese. It

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>was all fun and games, and no less than a

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>week later, he knocks pulled out. And I think with

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that punch, I do think it affects where the Warrior's

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>at today, especially Emo emotionally, because everybody who I mean,

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to be a Warriors fan to know

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that the Warriors are usually the happiest team in the NBA.

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You see Steph smiling no matter what happens on the court.

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Last night, Steph Gray dropped fifty points. I didn't see

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>him smile one single time. Now I'm not saying that's

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Draymont's fault. But I do think a lot of the

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>emotions around the team, even though they're not fighting about

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that now, I think a lot of it is under

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's under mentioned that that changed the trajectory

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>of how this team was always going to feel going

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to the season. And you know, outside of Clay and

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Pole playing terribly, I think that Draymond punch really changed

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the way, really changed the way this team started the season.

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like there was any real reason for

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>it other than just normal smack talking, because Draymond came

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>out and was like it had nothing to do with

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>his contract. I don't care what another man makes.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't count his pockets pure lies. I think when

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>he said that, I just that's the only reason I haven't.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not that I have sources, but yet nobody has

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>really hurt otherwise that it's something else. It's it's the

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>fact that Draymond knows that he's the second most important

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>player on the Warrior, second or third most important player.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Andrew Wiggins has become the second, but he's certainly

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>more important to them winning than in the last five

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>years and maybe even last season. Jordan Poole, right, And

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he looks at that and says, I've only

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>ever made max, you know, one hundred million dollars on

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>my contract, and here's this dude that's going to make

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty three million guaranteed at twenty two

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>years old. He's lying. Everyone's lying if you're saying you

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>don't look at that and realize, dude, I'm the best

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>defensive player of my generation and I can't get paid

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.719
<v Speaker 1>as much as this guy who doesn't impact winning, especially

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>in the postseason that I do. And honestly, Draymond's right, right,

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with him, but such as life, life

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>isn't fair, right, Life isn't fair, is what I would

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>say to Draymond. And these things are just going to happen.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's it's fine to be men, but man,

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>he knocked the kid out and the and then it leaked,

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and then it leaked, which I think made it a

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>million times worse because you know, you've you've got Jordan Poole,

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>who's not he's not really a made man in the NBA.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>He's really still trying to figure it out, even though

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>he's got this big contract. And you I think you're

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>seeing some of those effects, like he's getting attacked defensively,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 1>he's offensively. He's now the focal point of scouting reports

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>along with Steph, and I think it's affecting the way

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he played. Yet he had he went over five last

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>night in twenty seven minutes. Oh, the zero is not

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>an issue? Took five shots? Yeah, I mean, what are

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>we doing here?

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 4>That's that's insane? Two points on the night.

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>The question, I think there's there's a lot of people

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 2>who are fan base is, you know, fans of other teams,

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and they don't understand why Draymond is so important to

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>this team, and they think that he's going to be

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>gone and that this all signals that, especially considering that

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash or Steve Nash, Steve Kerr comes out and

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Steph comes out during that Ramona Shellburn piece and says,

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, the ends, the end of everything is really hard.

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>It's there's never anything good that goes with that. Does

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 2>that mean to you that that Draymond's gone after this year?

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>The answer is maybe, which is the right answer, which

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>sucks because nobody wants to hear that on a show.

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I would say maybe, but my take, is this coming

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>coming into the season, I would have said yes. I

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>would have just said, hey, he's gone. You I know,

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Wiseman and Kaminga, this is before the season. You know,

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of promise, and they really haven't shown

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that yet. But maybe you think they get to some

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>effecsimile of a defensive presence. You think that offensively, Jordan

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Poole Andrew Wiggins are going to be good enough along

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>with Steph and Clay that you know it's gonna it's

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna help you overcome some of the Draymond ball handling

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and screening. Right, But you watch the first ten to

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>fifteen games of the season, even though the Warriors are

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>six and nine, They're not winning a championship without Draymond.

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>They're not winning a playoff series without Draymond. And Steph

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>knows that. Draymond knows that. Steve Kerr knows that. And

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where you start to see some of

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the issues with the Warriors where they're spending so much time, effort,

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>and resources on someone like James Wiseman and frankly someone

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>like Kaminga, and none of that's even come close to

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>what we're not talking about, Like oh kamingas you know,

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>he's looking good. He's he just needs more minutes to

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>get there. It's like, no, he might just suck at basketball.

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And same with Wiseman, like he's so bad at basketball.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>He's in the G League, Like we're not we're not

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about Oh, he could play ten minutes and if

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>he played, and his per thirty six is so good

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that if he plays thirty minutes, he's a star. Like

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors just need to give him that. No, he sucks,

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>like he sucks. He needs to play in the G

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>League to just try to be in the NBA four

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>years from now. Because as of right now, James Wiseman

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>playing in China four years from now, that's how bad

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>he is. And things could change quick, right, Things could

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>change quick, Like Jordan Poole, Things changed very fast. Jordan

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Pole is the worst player in the NBA year one.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>It changes fast. But as of right now, that's how

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>bad those guys are. And if I were Draymond Green,

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I would I And it's not like he's having a great,

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>great season, he's having a good season. I would just

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>PLoP my tape on the table to Bob Myers and

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Joe Lake and be like, guys, look, I know you

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want to pay me, but what else are.

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>You gonna do?

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>You wha rebuild? Right that you're gonna rebuild, what else

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do?

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>There's people who think that it's the Warrior's fault that

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>James Wiseman hasn't progressed.

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the Warrior system does him no favors. It's

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a very I wouldn't say like it's an intricate system,

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's a system that relies on basketball IQ, of

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>which he has zero because of a few factors, right,

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I think because innately he doesn't have that type of

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>IQ to play in the system. He also hasn't played

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>many games in three years, so I think those are factors.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He's definitely a guy that belongs in a more like

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a like a standard modern NBA offense where it's just

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.959
<v Speaker 1>pick and roll, pick and pop, that type of stuff

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>where the Warriors don't really do that. The Warriors want

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you like you can see kaminga struggle with that a

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit. But I actually am bullish still on cominga

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>because I do think he can figure that stuff out.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like Wiseman can figure that stuff out.

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>On the Warriors. So I think, I to your point,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>that does him no favors. But I also think at

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the same time, you know, you gotta you gotta be

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>better than that. Like the guy. The guy is so

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the guy is just so bad every time he steps

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 1>on the floor offensively and defensively. It's it's jarring. It's

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>actually it. It's making jokes about it. Legit makes you

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like a bad person.

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I said this his what was it twenty twenty twenty

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty one when we.

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 4>First met and I said to you, guys, I said,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 4>he looks like.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>A deer in headlights and that joke was fine then.

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>And now it's like twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and he still looks like a deer in headlights now,

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 2>but now an entitled deer in headlights that wants the ball.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Your way to put it.

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 4>It, does it feel like twenty twenty twenty one again exact?

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It's so for those right that that didn't watch the Warriors,

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>that that was the season where Steph average thirty plus points.

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I think he averaged forty points on fifty to forty

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>ninety for an entire month to get them to to

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>get them to the playing game. He had to drag

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors to the playing game, playing next to kell

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>ubray Ken Basmore JTA heavy minutes. Draymond Green kind of

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was in and out that season. He wasn't very good.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Pool was young, so he was dragging like a

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>band of misfit toys to the playing game where they

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>lost to the Lakers and the Grizzlies. And and I'd

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>argue that that Steph is playing better this season. He

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>had fifty points last night, right, like I mentioned earlier,

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>on literally like five shots, which is ridiculous. And he's

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>dragging the Warriors. He's dragging the Warriors to wins at

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>home against bad teams. I know the Kings are having

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a good season, but he's having to play out of

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>his mind just to beat teams at home, and he's

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>playing out of his mind on the road and they're

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>not even coming close to win. They went zero to

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>five on a road trip that they lost to Detroit,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>they lost Orlando, they lost to Charlotte. I mean, those

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>are three of some of the worst teams in the NBA.

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>They lost to all of them. And let me tell you,

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 1>they weren't even close, Like, at no point in those

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>games was a like, yeah, the Warriors are gonna be

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna come back, like they choked some of

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>those games. But it's this is a team that just

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>is bad. They might be worse than twenty twenty twenty

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty one because they have better players. Clay's playing Wiggins

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>is he's better, right, Jordan Poole is better and they're worse.

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>It's it's actually impressive the way the Warriors are two

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>in this It's actually impressive.

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy to me too, because if you look

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 2>at offensively, they are tenth in offensive rating. But Steph

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>is balling out to such a degree that if you

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 2>were to take Steph and put him into like a

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>regular night, like they would have scored one hundred and

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 2>two points last night total, Right, They scored what one, yeah,

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>one nineteen to one thirty. So without if Steph only

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 2>scores instead of fifty, the scores you know, twenty seven,

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't even hit the hundred mark, right, and twenty

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 2>seven is a pretty decent scoring night.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Why do you think things look so stagnant?

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So as bad as I talked about the young kids

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>being those kids didn't play last night and they went

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>with a vet heavy rotation. And Klay Thompson and Jordan

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Pole have been awful. Klay Thompson's more awful than Jordan Poole.

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>But you've got two shooting guards. One of them shoots

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>too much on the other doesn't shoot. And that's really

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the If Klay Thompson and Jordan Poole played to the

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>same level that they did last season, this team right

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>now six to nine, probably nine and six, and they

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.439
<v Speaker 1>probably be nine and six, which is you know, you'd

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>be asking me like, oh, do we panic about the Warriors,

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I'd say, like, no, not really right,

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>they'll get better from there. But instead, those two dudes

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 1>have been terrible and kind of to break down each one.

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Klay Thompson wants so bad for it to be twenty nineteen,

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>so bad it's like he's like that old uncle that

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>wants to relive his college career or a high school career,

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and he wants to just you know, what's the point

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>that it was Uncle Rico, Right, he's talking about how

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>he wants to throw a pig skin of cord him out.

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>He's talking about how he wants to be that guy again,

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's Klay Thompson, and you know, part of that

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.720
<v Speaker 1>is enduring and daring. I never, I never will slander

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Klay Thompson. That's my guy. That's every Warriors fans guy

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 1>for obvious reasons, four titles towards Aco Achilles, all that.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, he I think mentally is just

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>not where he needs to be. And also he's out

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>of shape. He didn't play at all in the offseason,

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's part of it. Jordan Poole, on

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the other hand, he's coming off the bench. He thinks

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>he should start, and he's probably right, but he's not

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>going to And when he comes off the bench, they're

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>putting him with guys that he has to carry. And

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>as a kid that's still trying to make it in

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, he's trying to figure out how to carry

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>teammates rather than be the guy likely he was last

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>season playing next to Auto Porter, playing next to G two,

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>where he has a great defensive four round him, so

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he can just go out there and just get buckets right.

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>He could just do his thing right. Now, it's like,

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:08.479
<v Speaker 1>how do I get guys involved? How do I figure

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff out? On defense, Well, GP two is not gonna

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>save me. Andre Goodald's not out there to run the offense.

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm the guy that has to do all that. That

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>makes life very difficult, which is why when you see

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>him with the starting lineup where Draymond Wiggins and Steph

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>are out there, he's going off. So those two guys

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>are the biggest problem. And then outside of that, I

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>think that's the offensive issue. And then outside of that,

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I think defensively, they just they don't have enough smart players.

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what happens when you've got seven kids

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>on the team that are like twenty one. I don't

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>know what I was doing at twenty one, but I

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely wasn't smart. So these guys definitely aren't. And it's

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:44.760
<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, it's obvious.

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>This is what I think is happening with Clay. I

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 2>want you to tell me whether you think this is right.

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Because it was averaging seventeen three and two.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 3>In the finals.

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 4>That's pretty good.

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not twenty nineteen Clay, but that's a serviceable claim.

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>And defensively he played pretty well against Jalen Brown. He

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't you know, two way Strapham Clay but he was

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 4>But this is what I think happened.

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that the trauma from the injury bled into

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the off season because that gets you back to that

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>place again, and you're like, I don't want to injure

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 2>myself in a pickup run, so I don't play. I

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>just don't play and pick up runs because I associate

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 2>pickup runs with tearing, something tearing and Achilles being out

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 2>for another year again, so his conditioning declines, and then

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 2>because his conditioning declines, his play automatically declines as well,

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and everybody notices, and everybody says and points it out.

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Clay is not the same, play is not the same.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>He sucks now, and then emotionally he spirals from there

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>because he wants to get back to that place, but

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 2>he also wants the respect from the people for what

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 2>he's already done and some grace to get him back

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>to where he wants to go. And then emotionally he

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 2>sort of spirals, and then he's now pressing to show

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the world he's still elite when he's really not elite

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:00.439
<v Speaker 2>right now because of all those things.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 4>Do you think that's right?

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I would agree, I would agree. I think it is

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>a spiral spiral effect from from I think just not

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>being ready to play bask It's it's a little shocking

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>because I do think if it's some this mental stuff

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I think affects everyone. I would say, like, if it

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>was one person that I thought it would affect, it

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>would be Clay, just because kind of the shooter mentality.

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>He's always had the calmness, the poise. It's why he

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>made eleven threes in Okay see Game six. It's why

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>he's Game six Clay. It's why he pulled the Warriors

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>out of so many situations. It's the mental toughness. But

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>there's always going to be things I think that all

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 1>humans are going to struggle with, and I think that's

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>what Clay struggled with. And it's also shocking because this

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>is coming out, like you said, after what he did

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA Finals, he came back. He actually led

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors in minutes, which is insane. I thought he

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 1>was back coming into this. You know, my co host

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Samus Fendiari and I thought that. You know, we we

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>were bullish. We were like, well, Clay's gonna come back

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's going to be nice like last season he

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was seventy five percent. He's gonna come back, he's gonna

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>be eighty five percent of what he has, and right

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>now he's like fifty percent of what he was before.

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>And I I didn't I didn't see that coming. And

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>then you you compound that, like you said, with the

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>fact that he just go and keep shooting. And for

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the first time last night, I know that Stephan Draymond

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>has talked to him about being having a better shot selection.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>But that's what makes Clay clay. He's just gonna shoot

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But I think for the first time last

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>night we saw Steph and Draymond. They were they were

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 1>they were exasperated, and they showed it on the court,

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>which you never see from Steph. You see from Draymond

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>every day, but you never see from Steph. And that

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.879
<v Speaker 1>that's where it's that's concerning to me. Yeah, they lost

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>to Phoenix. They lost the Phoenix. Fine, I mean they

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 1>do that. Phoenix is a good regular season team. But

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the it's you look at this team and you

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>look at how they are mentally and you're like, Ooh,

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're gonna make it back from this.

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And if they do make it back from this? How

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>good can they actually be when they do make it

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>back from this. It's a lot going on with this team,

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, almost it almost feels like a Lebron

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>team where I think Steph is gonna have to go

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>into to Bob and Joe's office at some point and

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>just say, hey, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta do

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>some drastic which is what Lebron would do and uh,

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>which is what he's good at. I think, uh, Steph

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't do that. But I think Steph also looks at

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>his basketball mortality and says, I got two years, like

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I could win five. Yeah, maybe I could win five championships.

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>You're telling me I could be on the on the

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Kobe level championships. I could. I could go one up

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>on Broun, because Bron's definitely not winning one right in

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the next few seasons. He's like, Dude, I could win

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 1>five and be a mortal forever. And I'm not freaking

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>wasting my time with the crap shit I have around me. Right,

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>So he's not gonna request a train. It's not what

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean. But it's like, what can we get for Wiseman? Yeah,

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>what do we get for Kaminga.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, do you think that urgency actually exists for

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>him right this second, or do you forecast that that

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 2>urgency to have that move be made and to have

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>that conversation is something that's going to take place in

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the future.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I think both. Actually, I do think there's urgency right now.

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>They're six and nine. I mean, they're not that far

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>out from home court advantage. I think they're only a

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of games. But it's like, you watch the team,

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>just watch them. They're not a not a whole court team.

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 1>All you gotta do is just watch them for ten minutes.

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And and I and I think the trade down line

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is in the February. So it's Valentine's Day, right, So

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it's sometime in February, So they got they got some time.

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But they act though, I mean, are they going to

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>be five hundred? I think they know they need to

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 1>make a move. I think they know that. I think

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they know that. I think it's not even urgency. I

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's just fact they're not they're not winning the

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>championship as is. But what is the move? Do they

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>trade Wiseman for G two?

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 4>We don't want him, we don't want him.

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that I don't want him, hasn't played yet.

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we don't want Wiseman. We know what wise Man.

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Portland has incredible vibes. I watched some of the

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Portland games the last few weeks. Simon's better than McCollum.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a higher ceiling than McCollum.

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 2>I think so because he's six five six six instead.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 4>Of like six three.

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 2>And then I think Shaden Sharp's upside is just ridiculous. Yeah,

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I what fourteen points in twelve minutes the other night.

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just sick.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 4>And Jeremy Grant's a lot better than I thought too

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 4>on this team specifically, And I think because you guys

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 4>would love some Jeremy Grant right now.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 6>So Jeremy Grant.

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it interesting? So I've thought about this. Jeremy Grant,

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I think is a classic. I think Cominga is going

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to go through this, and which is why I'm not

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>bullish on some of the kids. As a warrior. Jeremy

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Grant went to Detroit to do two things right. He

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>got his money and he got his buckets. And I

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>think when you look at someone like Jonathan Kaminga, Johnathan

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Mingo wants two things right now. He doesn't want to sacrifice.

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:08.839
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to he doesn't want to play team

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 1>winning basketball. And I get it, right, I get it.

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>He thinks he's a lot better than than what he

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 1>should be doing on the Warriors. He wants to get

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>his contract and he wants to get buckets. You look

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>at someone like Jalen Green's same thing, right, they get

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>free reign to do whatever they want. But then you're

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about the third team, so you're talking about the

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 1>team after that. So now Jeremy Grant's on Portland and

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>he's saying, you know what, I got my money, I

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>got my points. I'm trying to win. And I think

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that guys like Wiseman and Kaminga are like six years

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>away from that. They need to understand that they're not

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>good enough to carry a team like that and win.

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think Jeremy Grant realized that he knows that

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>he's not good enough to be that guy. So he's like, cool,

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna I'm gonna be

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy with port that. I think that's what Cominga's

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>career arc is. It's a standard career arc for a

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of NBA players, because not all NBA players are superstars, right,

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's the predicament. I think the Warriors.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 4>And he said.

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Something to in this article that I just read that

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 2>was so I thought, so self aware. He's he's basically saying,

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the fact that I can't get buckets and

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 2>be the number one scoring option. But I can't be

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.240
<v Speaker 2>the leader of a team like I can't make sure

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>everyone's good. I can't be the focal point of a

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>team like I can get buckets, but ultimately I need

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 2>someone else Otherwise I'm gonna draw double teams and I'm

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be garbage.

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 4>And there's not that.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 2>And he said it gave him a lot of respect

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 2>for guys who are actually true number ones. To realize

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was a number one. I wanted to

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>be a number one. I wanted to be paid like

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 2>a number one. And you know what, I realized, I'm

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 2>not a number one. But he can guard point guards,

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and he he protects Dame from a defensive standpoint to

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 2>the point where this is a top five defensive.

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 4>Team in the league. Right now, are they, Wow, that's

0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 4>sixth in defensive rating.

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I mean, isn't that what angel. Isn't that

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Andrew Wiggins? Yeah, I mean that's exactly

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.400
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Andrew Wiggins. Who I mean, he's that

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>guy that protects Steph defensively. Well, Steph is actually pretty good,

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>so he protects Jordan Pool defensively now, So it's like

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy that realized I can't be the number

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>one option. I just I can't, It's not possible. Now

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>he became a Warrior and second best player on a

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>championship team. I mean, just simply put right. And so

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I think to pull it back to the Warriors, you

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 1>can't cheat development and life lessons for these guys. You

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:36.359
<v Speaker 1>can't tell someone this like Andre Goodala for all he

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:40.280
<v Speaker 1>can do, he can only tell Kaminga all these things.

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Kaminga has to go through it, right. It's just it's

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 1>just like life. You know, your boys or your girl

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>can only tell you you know that guy's not good

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>for you or that girl so many times, but you

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta go through it for you to actually realize that

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 1>or not. And I think it's that's what makes that's

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>what's making this so hard for the Warriors, which I

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think they want to cut bait on these guys.

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:06.440
<v Speaker 1>They definitely don't on Wiseman, Cominga and Moody. But man,

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about the chance to win a fifth

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>title versus the chance of maybe sort of being competitive

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>four years from now, that's now. This is where the

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>time two timelines are actually hurting the Warriors.

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Last year it wasn't a victory for the two timelines

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:24.919
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, the Warriors could

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>just say, dude, we got eight nine ten veterans. We

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 1>can just go with those guys who win a championship. Now,

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.919
<v Speaker 1>they tried to go with those two timelines, and it's ugly.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 4>It's ugly.

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I remember talking to I want to say, it was

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 2>either MoU or can't Lake up, two guys that are

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 2>high up in the Warriors organization, and they said, if

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Moody and Kaminga aren't good this season, we are not

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 2>going to be good. And I remember being like, Wow,

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's not good from the actual horse's mouth.

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 4>To hear that one thing.

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:04.479
<v Speaker 2>To hear, like, you know, some Golden State blog say that, right,

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>It's another thing to hear the owner's son say that,

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:09.359
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 4>And that's kind of what I feel like is happening.

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, all these different role players who are young

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 2>and all the ones that departed off the championship team

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that I kind of wanted to get your thoughts about.

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 2>You lose Biolichia, you lose Damian Lee, GP two, obviously,

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.799
<v Speaker 2>Otto Porter, JTA.

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Who do you who do you think the Warriors miss most?

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 6>Dude?

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>They miss all of them. I mean, I'm gonna give

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you an answer, but they so here. Here's what overall

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the problem. I mean, there's a lot of issues, but

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the big, big, big issues is that Damian

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:46.959
<v Speaker 1>Lee and JTA. I made fun of them a lot.

0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 1>They're ready to hoop at all times. They're ready to

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 1>come in there, and it's a it's a mid November

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:52.839
<v Speaker 1>game and they're just coming out there. They're like, yo,

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 1>let's go, like I'm gonna give you eight minutes, but

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you eight minutes, right, And Kamingo's like,

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming in here, I'll give you eight. And it's

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm kind of sticking off half the time, and

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm trying to he doesn't even know what's

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>going on out there. JT and Damien Lee. The two

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 1>worst guys though the five you mentioned are and they're

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. And the Warriors missed that. They missed

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>players that are willing to sacrifice. They miss players that

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 1>know how to play defense. They missed players that can

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>do all that. Now, now, of those, I think when

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.359
<v Speaker 1>you talk about missing defense, they missed Jake GP two

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the most they do. You can argue whether it's GP

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>two or Arto Porter, but I think it's GP two.

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They miss a guy that is a absolute game changer defensively,

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and he papered over a lot of the mistakes that

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Klay Thompson made, a lot of the mistakes that Jordan

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Poole made, and he just gave the Warriors another guy

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that made him that made them a lethal defense. The

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Warriors were the best defense in the NBA when they

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 1>could put GP two out there. They put GP two,

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Clay Draymond Loony and Wiggins out there. I mean, my god,

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was that thing had Celtics in a chokal.

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>The Celtics look like a I mean, they look like

0:52:59.920 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a JV team trying to dribble against GP two and

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and Wiggins and those guys. Right, So I think they

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 1>miss him the most. And I think to your point

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>about Kent Lakeup saying Moody and Kaminga need to play well,

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I think they they thought that Kaminga would be that,

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>like some version of GP two whards like I'm just

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a dog and just hound guys and finish

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>at the rim and just have that mindset. But Cominga

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have that mindset, right, And and then Moody is

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 1>another guy that I think is just not He's not

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 1>fast enough. He's not he's not quick enough to be

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:33.359
<v Speaker 1>that defensively and then offensively, uh, he shoots too much.

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think you put you put those two guys in,

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>they just don't have the willingness to sacrifice an i

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Q offensively and defensively. So I think they missed GP two,

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>which is why, which is why I think you know

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about saying like, hey, I don't think it'll happen,

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like you said, only why would Portland do it? They're

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>not rebuilding. Although I think you know nurkicch wise man,

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe that's the maybe that's your future center.

0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:02.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, right, I don't know if Dame would actually

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Dame is very Steph like. Actually, but

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 1>they missed Chip two. They Dante DiVincenzo was real. He's

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>actually really good for the Warriors. They need more. The

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>more they have, the Warriors of the worst defense of

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, and it matches the eye test every second.

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, twenty fifth, but it looks like the bottom

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 4>of the bottom. Honestly. There's obviously trade deadline talks all

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 4>this stuff.

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Who who do you think besides KD the Warriors could

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 2>actually pick up that would help this team outside of

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 2>like a collection of you know, role players like Jay

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.919
<v Speaker 2>Crowder and things like that, because I think about maybe

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Julius Randall, I think about Miles Turner, maybe some other

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 2>guys like Yakub Pardle.

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>You just just glossed over. You just said, you know,

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>outside of KD, like like like that's a like that's

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a realistic I don't think.

0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a realistic possibility. That's why we're just like and

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.280
<v Speaker 2>that's why we're just kind of putting it to the side.

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it is. I wonder, I wonder if

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I wonder if it is. I think

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that when when Durant first came to the Warriors. You

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 1>could argue that not good for him, and maybe it

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't good for the Warriors overall. Just from an optics perspective,

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously I loved it. I think it was great. Yeah.

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Then the then KD goes to Brooklyn and we know

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.799
<v Speaker 1>how that's gone, and the Warriors win another championship. So

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:33.160
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't make sense for the Warriors to do it again

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>right this offseason when we're Katie requested the trade. But

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:40.839
<v Speaker 1>now you're looking at both teams and you're like, from

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>an optics perspective, win win when they both need each other.

0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think back to the to the to

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the Avengers. I think back to Thanos, you know, you

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>know Kat's coming back to the Warriors. The Warriors are

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 1>coming back to KD. You know what I mean, Like

0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this is a perfect match I think at this point

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>in their career to put those two guys together again,

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't care who you give up, because a shit,

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 1>just just give it up, right but who? But but

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.399
<v Speaker 1>now you can argue the Warriors are six and nine,

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not winning like this, so go get them. And

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Katie's sitting there and he just he just talked about

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.280
<v Speaker 1>how he had to play with Edmunds something like quoting

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>guys by name and saying how bad. Just I know

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:25.399
<v Speaker 1>he didn't mean it like that. Katie never really does,

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 1>but sheeesh right, And so I mean that's the fit. Yes,

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>we can talk about Yaka Pearle. I think that'd be

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a good fit. You know, I think I think maybe

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>uh Sadik bay or Bojan Bogdanovic. Maybe those guys are

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.880
<v Speaker 1>good fits. On Detroit. You can talk about you know,

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Jay Crowder. There are some maybe some wings.

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the Warriors kind of need a wing right now.

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But end of the day, man like is Kevin is Katie?

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that not the move? Like would you trade Wiseman

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 1>for Yaka Purdle?

0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 6>I don't.

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I would, but I don't know if the Warriors would.

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>They're sitting there and they're like, well why, like like

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to sign him again, like Doc Prdos

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>may not even close games in the playoffs, Like what's

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the What's kind of not what's the point, but like

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.839
<v Speaker 1>how much does he actually make us better? And I'm

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 1>giving up a guy that maybe I'm still high on

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 1>who has a high upside. Number two pick all of

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that so I think, to me, it comes back down.

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they're gonna make a trade, I still

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>don't really think they're gonna make a trade. If they're

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna make a trade, it's gonna be for Kevin Durant

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. That's what That's what I would say, like

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Joe and Bob like that's the one where, without a doubt,

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 1>if there is an inkling of Katie wants it to happen,

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:35.640
<v Speaker 1>steph wants it to happen. And I don't mention any

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of the names for a reason. If Stephan Katy wanted

0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:40.919
<v Speaker 1>to happen, like I think that's the one that well

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that that could happen.

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 2>What's interesting to me about that is I said to

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 2>someone who was around the Warriors organization in a high

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 2>capacity no longer is, and I said, where do you

0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 2>think Katie ends up?

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 4>This is summer League. Where do you think Katie ends up?

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 4>Where do you think he?

0:57:57.960 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:57:58.160 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 4>And he goes, well, I know where he.

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Wants to go, And I go where Phoenix like Toronto,

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and he goes he wants to go back to Golden State.

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 2>And I go, you think so? And he goes, I know,

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:12.320
<v Speaker 2>so I'm one hundred percent positive. I spoke with KD

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>about this and then you know, he changes his mind

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 2>so fast so often, but that and I wouldn't.

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't think this person would lie.

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 2>This person's you know, cream of the crop in terms

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 2>of integrity, So that.

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 4>Has surfaced through his mind at least one time, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. It doesn't surprise, It doesn't surprise I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, but it doesn't surprise me, right, I think

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>for someone like him to realize you don't know what

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you have until it's now gone. I think there were

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like different reasons. Again, like I think part of the

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 1>reasons that made him so miserable at Golden State was

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>less so about Golden State but what people were saying

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>about him, what his own colleagues were saying about him.

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Clay had a quote that you know, I don't really

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.760
<v Speaker 1>care what media says about me. I care about what

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>my what my peers say about me. And I think

0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Clay's Clays his peers love him. I think I think

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.000
<v Speaker 1>players love him, and I think that's you know, Clay

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 1>is always going to be secure in that. I think

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 1>part of Katie's insecurity is that is that, you know,

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 1>some players feel that he took the easy way out,

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what always made the run at

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Golden State tough. But now I think this is the opportunity,

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 1>uh for for I mean it's it's it's a fairy

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 1>tale ending story for Warriors fans, right, And so I

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>think I just think it's it's almost like Lebron going

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>back to Cleveland. It's not the same because that was

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>objectively a great story and a great ending. But if

0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you're durrant and and you have the opportunity to say,

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I can get out of Brooklyn and

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 1>also I can save Golden State, I mean, it's it's

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a perfect story. I think the Warriors would do it.

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I just the second question after that is like, so

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<v Speaker 1>is it gonna be Draymond? Is it gonna be Clay?

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<v Speaker 1>Can't be Wiggans, Who's gonna be?

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<v Speaker 4>Could Wiggins?

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<v Speaker 1>It Couldah's that's tough, right because you know I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here and I'm like, I would say Wiggins too, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know he he took a pay cut for the team.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think part of what the war like, part

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<v Speaker 1>of what good organizations do is is you don't you

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<v Speaker 1>don't wanna you don't want to say, hey, you know,

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you took a pay cut and now we're gonna send

1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:33.959
<v Speaker 1>you to Brooklyn a shitty situation. I think that's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bob Meyer is not someone that would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But again it's like, well they do that to Clay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, They're gonna send him over there. So

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<v Speaker 1>Draymond's probably your best bet, right because Draymond's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>where you'll probably have the most friction with with the

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<v Speaker 1>front office.

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<v Speaker 4>Raymond kaminga Wiseman picks.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, Yeah, I think so. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Draymond can't yell a KD anymore, and Draymond can't punch Pool.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it comes back down to this, though,

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<v Speaker 1>can you win a championship without that guy as your

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<v Speaker 1>defensive anchor? I don't, I actually don't. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Stephan Katie, it solves you know, ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>of your problems. But I'll scoring.

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<v Speaker 2>Wiggans and if you're not giving up Wiggins, then you

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<v Speaker 2>still have Wiggins and Katie and Clay and possibly Steph

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<v Speaker 2>and Pool and probably a collection of other role players

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll get for nothing at the deadline, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And lousy yeah, and moody yeah, moody y or yeah

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<v Speaker 2>looney yeah looney.

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<v Speaker 4>So I did a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>With locked On, like a cross promotion, and I previewed

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know this. I previewed like

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<v Speaker 2>all the NBA teams, and uh, it was on all

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<v Speaker 2>these different lockdown feeds, So I was listening to different

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<v Speaker 2>locked on fees just to make sure that it was

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<v Speaker 2>like in there.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was listening to the Golden State locked on

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<v Speaker 4>feed and I don't really think much of it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Until, uh, you guys got cut got strays from this

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<v Speaker 2>same guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He came after you guys for what reason? Like is it?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the is there a backstory here? It was just

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<v Speaker 4>so unwarranted.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you get dragged into these things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's you got the KD stuff where where

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<v Speaker 1>you know? He did he? You know, he didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>me for whatever reason. And I always go, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie never talked to me, you guys know that, right

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<v Speaker 1>like he he never he never even acknowledged me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't take I don't this is not my fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of fame. I don't even you know, I like the

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<v Speaker 1>guy the guy seems cool, he seems nice. Never I never. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know him and he doesn't know me. So

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<v Speaker 1>this really has nothing to do with us. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people like drama. I like drama actually, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even gonna I like drama. I like chaos. I like

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<v Speaker 1>watching you know, love is Blind. It's it's my shit.

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<v Speaker 1>This stuff was was funny. So here here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think happened. I do think, you know, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>already subscribe to the light Years podcast, I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of uh in Warriors Twitter Warriors fandom that

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<v Speaker 1>people because it's so passionate and the Warriors are so good,

1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:11.480
<v Speaker 1>people tend to take different places, to take different stances.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a lot of fans that say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't you can't criticize James Wiseman. He's too young,

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<v Speaker 1>he's this and that. You got to be a real

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors fan and cheer for the team. And then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the segment that are like, you know, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stand behind Klay Thompson and this and that, and trust

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<v Speaker 1>the front office no matter what, and and and all this,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a lot of fan policing that

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<v Speaker 1>goes on, and I think people get really annoyed and

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<v Speaker 1>jealous of Salmini's show because we just, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just tend to screw around and have fun. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think people a lot of people take this more seriously

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<v Speaker 1>than they should. And I'm always like, we're just We're

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, dudes or women, you know, just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>behind some mics and chopping the shit up. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think people take it too serious. So guys obviously emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously jealous of the light Years podcast. It's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's oh my.

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<v Speaker 6>Dude, guys, I'm out, Yeah, I have I have a

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<v Speaker 6>guess as to who Andy was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's this like dislike by old school

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<v Speaker 2>media to this non media coverage that happens to be

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<v Speaker 2>wildly popular and successful, especially on the places where it

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<v Speaker 2>matters most like social media.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I only see it from people who are

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<v Speaker 6>in old media who are unsuccessful, because Andy and I

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<v Speaker 6>have great relationships with a lot of the more senior

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<v Speaker 6>writers who are doing very well. They hop on our show.

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<v Speaker 6>They get what we do. You know, they treat us

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<v Speaker 6>like we're just another like radio show or talk show

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<v Speaker 6>that they go on. They understand it's a good way

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<v Speaker 6>to you know, get their content out there to the masses.

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<v Speaker 6>It's really only like the subset of people who are

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<v Speaker 6>insecure about their own job and you know, maybe are

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<v Speaker 6>not all read, or maybe or not resonating that seem

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<v Speaker 6>to to have this beef.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam and I just have fun. We don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>take it. We like hearing from fans. We don't agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even agree with Sam half the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter, right, I think a lot of the times,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of media, Yeah, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of media, don't. They just want people to agree with them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like, hey, like we we want people. We

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like we are smarter than you and what

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<v Speaker 1>we say is more important. Whereas I do think Sam

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<v Speaker 1>and I said Aaron, we're just like nah, we just

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<v Speaker 1>or at least for me, I just say shit, like hey,

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<v Speaker 1>whether people like it or not, I don't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just say stuff and it just turns out

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<v Speaker 1>people like hearing it, and I never I will never

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm right obviously when I'm right. I'll say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>right when I'm wrong. I never say anything obviously. But

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<v Speaker 1>outside of that, I think we.

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<v Speaker 6>I obviously believe what I say is true. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>mean I have one hundred percent hit right, like like

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<v Speaker 6>like everyone else, I have my missus, you know, like

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<v Speaker 6>the hobbyist one would be like Andrew Wiggins. I did

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<v Speaker 6>not his play coming around the way. I thought it

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<v Speaker 6>was like it's life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you guys were very mad at me when

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<v Speaker 2>I said James Wiseman was a deer in headlights and

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<v Speaker 2>would never develop.

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<v Speaker 4>And here we are two years later and you.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys are now called your shot early. I mean, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>give my one. Wiseman take nothing. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 6>wants to be a center. I think he thinks he's

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<v Speaker 6>a guard. I think watching him and it's just frustrating

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<v Speaker 6>because it's like they want him to do center things

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<v Speaker 6>and you see all he wants to do is like

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<v Speaker 6>try to be Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you guys most optimistic about Steph winning the MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that it's so far that at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't don't it'd be cool, but I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>It also probably means the Warriors like the Warriors, Steph

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<v Speaker 1>winning the m v P probably means that he scored.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're watching it. He's scoring a lot of points.

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<v Speaker 1>Stats are great, but the team sucks. Team sucks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know Sam Will. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>dark time in the Bay Area, which is sad that

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<v Speaker 1>just want a championship four months ago.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say the reason to be optimistic is their

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<v Speaker 6>starting lineup still kind of kills most teams. So like, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>they're not going to win a title with this roster,

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<v Speaker 6>but they need to tweak the bench, which I think

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<v Speaker 6>is easier than being like, yeah, we need like another superstar.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, that's a little harder. So like, if I

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<v Speaker 6>was to hold on to optimism, it's like they should

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<v Speaker 6>be able to find an auto porter or you know,

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<v Speaker 6>someone like that in the trade market, and potentially that's

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<v Speaker 6>the kind of thing that gets them move in a

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<v Speaker 6>good direction. But I don't even know if I believe that.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's just me. That's just me. You're asking me,

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<v Speaker 6>give me the optimistics, but that's my optimistics.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that a valuable defensive role player unlocks

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Pool or does Jordan Pool psyche command.

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<v Speaker 4>Him to start?

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<v Speaker 6>I think if you put smarter players around him who

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<v Speaker 6>can defend, he will look more like the Jordan Poole

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<v Speaker 6>we saw last year. He played really well off the

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<v Speaker 6>bench last year. He also played well as a starter,

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<v Speaker 6>and like ninety percent of the reason he plays well

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<v Speaker 6>as the starters because who do they have in the

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<v Speaker 6>starting lineup? Smart defenders? Also also Steph. Everyone plays better

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<v Speaker 6>with Steph. But it's like, yeah, playing next to Wiggins,

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<v Speaker 6>Draymond Looney, that type of stuff, Like it's different than

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<v Speaker 6>play next to Anthony Lamb, who no one knew about

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<v Speaker 6>a month ago, and whatever, you know, non voting age youngster.

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<v Speaker 6>They want to throw out there with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Reddit Warriors asked me for my next my I

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<v Speaker 2>think they had the next twelve games, but the next ten.

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<v Speaker 2>How many wins do you think? What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>the record is?

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<v Speaker 6>What you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even have to look at the schedule, I

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<v Speaker 1>because because the Warriors could lose to I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter who you play. They lost a freaking They've

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<v Speaker 1>lost to Charlotte without them like they can watched.

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<v Speaker 4>Them lose that Detroit game in Detroit. For that forty

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<v Speaker 4>was in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't Detroit.

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<v Speaker 4>Why forty came to watch you guys lose through the Pistons.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they weren't closing that game, like

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a shot forty.

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<v Speaker 6>Came to watch Isaiah Stewart emasculate James Wiseman nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, like five and five, yeah, bro.

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<v Speaker 6>I go five and five two. This this team just

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<v Speaker 6>screams five hundred. It's like Steph goes for fifty and

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it's enough and maybe it's not. He has to go.

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<v Speaker 1>For forty to be the Kings at home, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just I can't get It's just you're watching that and

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<v Speaker 1>you're so happy because your Steph is so amazing, But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, the back of your head, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like that's what they needed. That, that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to do that seven, which is eight.

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<v Speaker 4>How do they get the good vibes back? How do

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<v Speaker 4>we get the like happiness vibes back?

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<v Speaker 1>No one's happy, right, No one's well.

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<v Speaker 6>Bring back one to Scott Anderson. Where's Kent Bazemore.

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<v Speaker 1>At I'm seriously.

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly though, like that's who embraced being bench vets and

1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:04.439
<v Speaker 6>don't really give a shit about their stats because they

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<v Speaker 6>know that like their role is to be the good

1:10:06.800 --> 1:10:10.080
<v Speaker 6>vibes guy. Probably would help instead of a bunch of

1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:12.720
<v Speaker 6>kids who are like but hurt. They're not getting the

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<v Speaker 6>minutes they think they deserve. And I can't even I

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<v Speaker 6>can't even blame the kids in some ways. It's like

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<v Speaker 6>it's you've created a very untenable situation by like by

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<v Speaker 6>merging the two and it's hard enough, you know, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Fine, what does fine mean? This fine mean playoffs? This

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<v Speaker 4>fine mean finals? Does fine mean? What?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh? Contending? Uh? They want to they want a title?

1:10:40.120 --> 1:10:43.840
<v Speaker 6>Last year? Like, is anyone gonna be content with like

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<v Speaker 6>Steph got him to the first round?

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<v Speaker 4>No shot?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's just like it's you you know that

1:10:52.720 --> 1:10:56.800
<v Speaker 6>there's a core of a title team here, like they

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<v Speaker 6>did it with at least six of these players. They

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<v Speaker 6>just need to, you know, figure it out around those guys.

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<v Speaker 6>It's my bigger thing, Steph.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is the year Steph is going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for change, like he's I was. I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier. Sam. He knows it's only it's one year left,

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<v Speaker 1>two years left. There's not much left in the tank

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<v Speaker 1>for Steph Curry. I know, we think he can go

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<v Speaker 1>to forty, but there's not much left in the tank.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Lebron. It's like the Lebron there's two three

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<v Speaker 1>years left and if he wins five, I mean, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and that's the and that's the larger point. Fuck

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<v Speaker 6>them kids, even if they drafted correctly, even if they okay, So,

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<v Speaker 6>who's the best player available Number two? Probably LaMelo who

1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:50.920
<v Speaker 6>is the best player available at well? Either way or

1:11:51.000 --> 1:11:53.960
<v Speaker 6>like you know, Franz Wagner the following year. Neither of

1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:55.960
<v Speaker 6>those guys are ever going to be Steph Curry. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's kind of the point. Even if they nailed those

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<v Speaker 6>picks and they were productive players, this team's in better position.

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<v Speaker 6>This is probably the best player that's ever going to

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<v Speaker 6>be on Joe Acob's Warriors. He's gonna probably die before

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<v Speaker 6>they get a player of Steph's caliber. He's sixty five

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<v Speaker 6>years old. Let's be let's be honest about it. This

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<v Speaker 6>is like a what is he top ten player of

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<v Speaker 6>all time? Yes? I mean, is he like that alone?

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<v Speaker 6>Just do the math, like the odds you're going to

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<v Speaker 6>have a player who matters as much to your franchise Again,

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<v Speaker 6>are is limited? You know, like, so just go all

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<v Speaker 6>in deal with the future when the future comes, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>would you rather would you rather have Okay, it's officially over.

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<v Speaker 6>Steph's thirty seven, he's old, he's washed. Time to rebuild

1:12:42.920 --> 1:12:45.519
<v Speaker 6>or like try to be super cute with it and

1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:47.600
<v Speaker 6>then feel like you left a couple of chances on

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<v Speaker 6>the table.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I saw that Steve Kirk quote.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he thinks this could be the last

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<v Speaker 2>year or maybe next year is the last year of

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<v Speaker 2>the dynasty, and that they're in the final stages.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's that is super dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that was like a veiled like message

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<v Speaker 2>to like, hey, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know you think in Silicon Valley there's like

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<v Speaker 2>just forever or I guess what do you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what are your what is your.

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<v Speaker 4>Take on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Steve is is I think he knows he is dramatic,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's smart. He knows that if they don't do

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<v Speaker 1>something that nothing like I don't think much changes materially

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<v Speaker 1>on this team. Back to Sam's point, Victor Wenbinyama, who

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<v Speaker 1>who is like the best draft prospect that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>at video games since Lebron He has like a five

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<v Speaker 1>percent chance of being better than Steph, one percent chance

1:13:45.000 --> 1:13:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of being better than Steph, and that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>so you're talking about Wiseman and Kaminga, like those guys

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<v Speaker 1>might have a zero point one percent chance of duplicating this.

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<v Speaker 1>So back to Steve's quote, Yeah, I think he realized.

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<v Speaker 1>I think twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. You can argue

1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I think Steve's argument wasn't and I'll clase out. But

1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:05.960
<v Speaker 1>here we are two.

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<v Speaker 6>Years the whole year, and he's thirty three, and you know,

1:14:09.680 --> 1:14:12.960
<v Speaker 6>guards of his age don't tend to get better at

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<v Speaker 6>this stage. Like yep, I I can understand the doubt

1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:19.280
<v Speaker 6>until you started seeing him play again and and like

1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:21.280
<v Speaker 6>there was a whole COVID layoff, like no one really

1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:22.880
<v Speaker 6>knew what was going on there.

1:14:22.920 --> 1:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even a championship played that season, you know

1:14:25.000 --> 1:14:27.080
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, like that thing that thing, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah it was that what was that that? Uh

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<v Speaker 6>was the Disney World Tournament but uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't pad to this day to this day.

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<v Speaker 6>But like I do think, yeah, and it's obvious Steve's

1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:42.559
<v Speaker 6>point is like you know, kind of sees the moment

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<v Speaker 6>like Steph looks like he's gonna do it for the

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<v Speaker 6>next five years, but like who knows, right, he's thirty four,

1:14:49.080 --> 1:14:52.479
<v Speaker 6>He's already in uncharted territory for like a guard of

1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:55.320
<v Speaker 6>his size continuing to play at this level like you

1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:57.360
<v Speaker 6>kind of have to treat every year like it could

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<v Speaker 6>be the last.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron's done, Like his career is over. You watch him

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<v Speaker 1>play and you know he'll still go for three.

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<v Speaker 6>He's on the shop more than he's on the Lakers

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<v Speaker 6>these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's done, Like he is finished, and that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>just happens quick. And although it feels like he's been

1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:18.720
<v Speaker 1>he's it's been supposed to happen for years now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can argue that you can finally say

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<v Speaker 1>at this point he's done. And I think that's gonna

1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:24.800
<v Speaker 1>happen to Steph at some point, but he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be done.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's the point. Like when they when they won

1:15:28.080 --> 1:15:31.120
<v Speaker 6>that AU Tournament, I mean, I still felt like Lebron

1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:34.720
<v Speaker 6>had like three to four more years in him. And

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<v Speaker 6>now we're two years later and it's like it's just

1:15:36.640 --> 1:15:39.479
<v Speaker 6>very clear he's in like Wizards Jordan phase of his career,

1:15:39.640 --> 1:15:42.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, where it's like he's obviously still really good

1:15:42.520 --> 1:15:45.280
<v Speaker 6>and it's fun to watch him in the sense of, like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, all time great, but it's like his days

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, oh shit, it's Lebron and he's going

1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:54.920
<v Speaker 6>to destroy us or over right, And that's kind of

1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:58.000
<v Speaker 6>the uh, that's kind of the point with Steph where

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<v Speaker 6>it's like it looks like he's in the middle of

1:16:00.120 --> 1:16:03.200
<v Speaker 6>his prime, but like, be real about it, you don't

1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:04.760
<v Speaker 6>know if he's going to lose a step next year

1:16:04.840 --> 1:16:07.040
<v Speaker 6>or a year after that. Like these things happened, go

1:16:07.160 --> 1:16:09.120
<v Speaker 6>for it, like to let live with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm Brady might be done, you know, although

1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you know the divorce might helped him out. But like

1:16:13.160 --> 1:16:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that's another guy that played into the forties and.

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<v Speaker 2>And FTX losing six hundred and fifty million dollars as well.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way Steph Steph ended up, that was probybe

1:16:22.479 --> 1:16:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the worst alignment brand alignments where he's like s.

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<v Speaker 6>Orders are fully aligned with him. It's not just Steph,

1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:33.639
<v Speaker 6>it's like the they Monday they gave away Jordan Poole

1:16:33.720 --> 1:16:39.040
<v Speaker 6>bobbleheads with FTX. Yeah, and it's just kind of like,

1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:41.320
<v Speaker 6>well they clearly already printed them, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So any other parting thoughts, as you guys have given

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<v Speaker 2>me so much time, thank you for jumping on.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you were almost unable to.

1:16:49.640 --> 1:16:52.040
<v Speaker 6>I was double booked. I thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 6>go for an hour. I saw I got a half

1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:56.679
<v Speaker 6>hour back, and I saw I still had a link

1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:57.360
<v Speaker 6>to streamyard.

1:16:57.400 --> 1:16:59.479
<v Speaker 1>So I took much of let's let's go all right.

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<v Speaker 1>A final to the Western Conference is bad. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not good. I know that there's a lot of good

1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:07.040
<v Speaker 1>teams hypothetically, but it is not a good conference. As

1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a Warriors fan, you are still not scared of any

1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of these teams. Uhawhy is questionable tonight. He is questionable

1:17:12.439 --> 1:17:14.360
<v Speaker 1>in his life. That's how he is. So who knows

1:17:14.360 --> 1:17:16.640
<v Speaker 1>if he's ever gonna be back. But I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can argue the Warriors still have like a chance of

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<v Speaker 1>making the NBA finals, and once you make the finals,

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<v Speaker 1>all that matter.

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<v Speaker 6>So and that's why they should go for it, because

1:17:24.479 --> 1:17:26.600
<v Speaker 6>Andy is right, Like I think Memphis is probably the

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<v Speaker 6>best other best team in the last Yeah they're good

1:17:29.479 --> 1:17:31.559
<v Speaker 6>and uh you know they're nice, but.

1:17:31.479 --> 1:17:33.880
<v Speaker 4>They're not like they're very vulnerable.

1:17:34.120 --> 1:17:36.080
<v Speaker 6>It's not the ninety six Bulls, you know, you're not

1:17:36.160 --> 1:17:39.280
<v Speaker 6>like staring down the Kadie Warriors, where you're like Yaka

1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:41.599
<v Speaker 6>Peertle is not going to make a difference here. It's

1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:44.880
<v Speaker 6>like it's very much a couple tweaks and get back

1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:46.960
<v Speaker 6>on track and you can easily win the West kind

1:17:47.000 --> 1:17:47.559
<v Speaker 6>of situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, correct, Yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that as well, specifically considering I watched

1:17:52.720 --> 1:17:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Memphis play the Wizards, and mind you, there was no Jaw,

1:17:55.439 --> 1:17:59.240
<v Speaker 2>no Bane, no Jaron Jackson. But like Jared Jackson, I

1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:01.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think is a very basketball player. Like I don't

1:18:01.400 --> 1:18:05.280
<v Speaker 2>think oh, I don't think offensively, I don't think he's.

1:18:05.320 --> 1:18:06.240
<v Speaker 1>A lot of threes.

1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:09.400
<v Speaker 2>A lot of threes, just a lot of flat fifteen

1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:11.439
<v Speaker 2>year old girl threes.

1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Like just so gross, just so bad.

1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I like him as a person, like him as a defender,

1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:19.640
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I think that they're very a

1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:23.160
<v Speaker 2>very vulnerable team. Jaw obviously has had ankle issues that

1:18:23.200 --> 1:18:26.080
<v Speaker 2>whole time, you know, last year, this year still, that

1:18:26.200 --> 1:18:27.840
<v Speaker 2>was the reason he didn't play in the Wizard's game.

1:18:27.960 --> 1:18:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Desn't Vane's been out, so you're you're an injury away.

1:18:31.160 --> 1:18:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I think the MAVs have real problems Utah about.

1:18:36.040 --> 1:18:38.240
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Clippers, I don't.

1:18:38.280 --> 1:18:40.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, whatever, Who do you think is the best

1:18:40.600 --> 1:18:41.280
<v Speaker 4>team in the West?

1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:46.080
<v Speaker 6>Probably Memphis right now. Like as much as like the

1:18:46.120 --> 1:18:48.720
<v Speaker 6>idea of the Clippers is good, Like at a certain point,

1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:50.360
<v Speaker 6>it's like I kind of need to see Kawhi play

1:18:50.400 --> 1:18:52.600
<v Speaker 6>ten games in a row, like five.

1:18:52.400 --> 1:18:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Games in a row.

1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:56.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, games in a row, even if he's one days

1:18:56.320 --> 1:18:58.280
<v Speaker 6>healthy in the playoffs, I don't believe he's gonna make it.

1:18:58.200 --> 1:19:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Through because he has to play in playoffs. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to play. What if he just doesn't play?

1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:06.400
<v Speaker 6>Denver I think is good, but like, I don't know,

1:19:06.439 --> 1:19:09.040
<v Speaker 6>they feel they also feel a tweak away in the playoffs,

1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:11.240
<v Speaker 6>like who are they going to guard type of situation now,

1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:13.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. It's all kind of it's there for

1:19:15.120 --> 1:19:17.920
<v Speaker 6>it's there for the taking. It's like all Andy said

1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:19.920
<v Speaker 6>it correctly. It's a lot of like forty eight win teams.

1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:22.559
<v Speaker 6>It's a lot of like good teams, not no great teams.

1:19:22.680 --> 1:19:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You don't gotta play. You don't gotta plays Boston and

1:19:24.840 --> 1:19:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee to the finals. And once you get to the finals,

1:19:27.200 --> 1:19:30.559
<v Speaker 1>you're just one steph Curry or performance away from stealing

1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that thing.

1:19:31.120 --> 1:19:33.400
<v Speaker 6>Just little little game four in the garden and.

1:19:33.439 --> 1:19:36.959
<v Speaker 1>You are good to go. Number five on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>For the non Dubbs as I've always said, are going

1:19:41.240 --> 1:19:41.920
<v Speaker 2>to be fine.

1:19:42.320 --> 1:19:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Championship aspirations still on.

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<v Speaker 2>Much love to Sam and Andy for joining the show

1:19:48.120 --> 1:19:51.080
<v Speaker 2>for a third straight year. Actually now and actually the

1:19:51.160 --> 1:19:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Warrior season kind of feels like the first season that

1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I met him twenty twenty twenty twenty one, where it's

1:19:55.479 --> 1:19:58.160
<v Speaker 2>just Steph and a bunch of dudes, just a bunch

1:19:58.160 --> 1:20:01.360
<v Speaker 2>of role players out there doing nothing. Give him a

1:20:01.360 --> 1:20:04.839
<v Speaker 2>follow Some of the best followers in the NBA social

1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:09.000
<v Speaker 2>ad at Andy k H l I U and at

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