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Speaker 1: coach of the reigning Super Bowl champs. Bruce Arians will
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Danny Dimes will join us a little bit
Speaker 1: later on in the Voice of the Yankees. Michael Kay
Speaker 1: from the S Network will join us as well. You
Speaker 1: know what's interesting, You got shows that never talk about baseball,
Speaker 1: but they're talking about baseball, saying why a one game
Speaker 1: playoff the Yankees and the Red Sox. Well, if this
Speaker 1: was Tampa in Toronto, no one would say a damn word.
Speaker 1: We're phony. Oh, you should have a three games set.
Speaker 1: By the way, ESPN tried to sell the hell out
Speaker 1: of this game, and they keep showing highlights from about
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago when the rival reactually mattered with you know,
Speaker 1: Pedro Martinez, you know, pushing a coach down on the ground. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, how about some Jason Veritec highlights here, Bucky
Speaker 1: Dead one game playoff? Okay, everybody wants a three game playoff. Hell,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers are involved in Cardinals in one game playoff?
Speaker 1: All right, if this is the Padres against a throwout
Speaker 1: a team, would we be saying, man, The answer is no.
Speaker 1: So now we see who's playing, and you're like, it's
Speaker 1: gotta be three game Now, I said three. It didn't
Speaker 1: matter who was involved, because I thought three for revenue's sake,
Speaker 1: since you lost all that revenue the previous year, makes
Speaker 1: some money back, certainly for these teams the league three games,
Speaker 1: but one game playoff. That's what it is. And these
Speaker 1: are the teams that are involved. And that's why there's
Speaker 1: this outcry that we have to have a three game series.
Speaker 1: Trust me, Tampa in Toronto, you would hear the following,
Speaker 1: Why not just have a one game playoff? Get it
Speaker 1: over with? Yes, tout or just play seven innings pretended
Speaker 1: to say doublehead or sething. We don't need to help
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Speaker 1: at Panini America dot net. Chargers Raiders game being delayed
Speaker 1: for lightning even though it's indoors. There were plenty of
Speaker 1: jokes last night. Of course, the team known as the
Speaker 1: Lightning Bolts would have that kind of delay. The Raiders
Speaker 1: came in three and zero, but all those flaws came
Speaker 1: out in primetime. Certainly in the first half. Couldn't protect
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, and they couldn't stop Justin Herbert. The Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers won by fourteen. Now the Chargers, Raiders and
Speaker 1: Broncos tied to top the AFC West at three and one.
Speaker 1: Chargers have already knocked off Kansas City, and they look
Speaker 1: like they're far more complete team than everybody else in
Speaker 1: the division. You know, you might play in southern California
Speaker 1: where just a bit of weather and it shuts down everything,
Speaker 1: but it's not their fault. It's not reflective of the
Speaker 1: way the Chargers play. They're tough on both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball, and they're going to be a tough out
Speaker 1: moving forward. You had sort of the tail of two
Speaker 1: halves there. The Chargers I thought were more in a
Speaker 1: prevent style in the second half and Raiders came back
Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert talked about, you know, these are the
Speaker 1: kind of games the Chargers used to lose. Here's Herbert
Speaker 1: on closing out the Raiders. That's one of those games
Speaker 1: that you know, we might not have won last year.
Speaker 1: But it's great to see from the defense going out
Speaker 1: there and holding them down and the offense going down
Speaker 1: and scoring. And it's great when you can leave the
Speaker 1: game at a two score possession. So I thought it
Speaker 1: was big for us to go down and scoring. Here's
Speaker 1: the Chargers head coach Brandon Staley what's expressed itself through
Speaker 1: four weeks is that the AFC West is loaded. We've
Speaker 1: got four really, really good teams. It's just one of
Speaker 1: those divisions where a lot of good football is being played.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good coaches, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of premium players, a lot of good quarterbacks and really
Speaker 1: good defenses. So as this season goes on, it's going
Speaker 1: to be one of the premium divisions in football. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is. And you've got a young coach, you got
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, and usually that's a great pairing to have.
Speaker 1: John Gruden talked about what happened in the first half.
Speaker 1: We cannot come out and take that many punches in
Speaker 1: the first round, and that was ridiculous tonight. They got
Speaker 1: on us, and they got after us in all three phases,
Speaker 1: and we found a way to make it a football game.
Speaker 1: They give ourselves a chance, but it's just too hard
Speaker 1: in this league against good teams. Yeah, and he's right,
Speaker 1: but the Chargers are a good team. But we've been
Speaker 1: down this road before. This is four weeks. Let's wait.
Speaker 1: I know I'm the voice of reason, and probably you
Speaker 1: know that this isn't the kind of take you're supposed
Speaker 1: to have. It felt like a little bit more of
Speaker 1: a coronation. You have a standalone game. We love these
Speaker 1: standalone games to all of a sudden have a referendum
Speaker 1: a strong opinion on a team. Chargers are good, but
Speaker 1: they're in a competitive division. You know, the Raiders are
Speaker 1: going to have their streaks. Denver I'm still not sure of,
Speaker 1: but they do have talent. Kansas City is going to
Speaker 1: be Jacquelin Hyde. They're going to be great on offense
Speaker 1: and they're going to be very, very bad on defense.
Speaker 1: Is that good enough for them to be able to
Speaker 1: be the team to beat in the AFC even the
Speaker 1: AFC West for that matter. Mclove and what's the poll
Speaker 1: question today? Okay, let's start with AFC. Who is the
Speaker 1: best team in the AFC? The Buffalo Bills, the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers, Kansas Say Chiefs, and then question marks you
Speaker 1: put the Cleveland Browns in there? Do you put the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens in there? I'm just like, at the best records, Okay,
Speaker 1: best team now or best team at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Who's Yeah, I guess the question is who's
Speaker 1: the best team at the end of the year. Who's
Speaker 1: coming out of AFC because I can say Arizona is
Speaker 1: the best team right now in the NFC. Do I
Speaker 1: think they're going to be the best team at the
Speaker 1: end of the year. No, you know, the Chargers look good,
Speaker 1: but I need a little bit more before. Like the Bills.
Speaker 1: I expect the Bills to be really good. I expect
Speaker 1: them to have twelve, maybe thirteen wins, But are they
Speaker 1: going to be that team that can win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Can you win a game? Can you win a game
Speaker 1: with your defense? Can you win a game when your
Speaker 1: quarterback is subpart like that happens in the playoffs where
Speaker 1: you just have one of those games and somebody else
Speaker 1: steps up. Those are the things you're still waiting for.
Speaker 1: And with young teams, with young quarterbacks, you know that
Speaker 1: it gets a little blurry there. Whereas if you go, okay,
Speaker 1: Roger's in a big moment, or Brady in a big moment,
Speaker 1: even Mahomes in a big moment, like you'll go, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to lean towards that side. But with these
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, you're not quite sure. Kyler Murray in a
Speaker 1: big moment, Justin Herbert in a big moment, you're not
Speaker 1: quite sure, Josh Allen, we did see a couple of
Speaker 1: moments from him. But to get that next step to
Speaker 1: be able to play in a super Bowl, now, that's
Speaker 1: where it takes a little bit more of a sample size. Also,
Speaker 1: this is a story that's coming out now, and it's
Speaker 1: not fair to come out now, and that is boy,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins got to look back and regret that they
Speaker 1: didn't take Justin Herbert. Okay, easy to say that now.
Speaker 1: If you said that on draft day, all right, you
Speaker 1: got an argument, I'll listen to you. But to say
Speaker 1: it now, yeah, Dolphins made a mistake. Justin Herbert looks
Speaker 1: like the real thing and the jury is still out
Speaker 1: on two. But to say it now is not fair
Speaker 1: to the situation. Say it on draft day, shout from
Speaker 1: the mountaintops, because if you look back, I think the
Speaker 1: original plan with the Chargers was to sit Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: his first year. I mean, Tyrod Taylor was going to
Speaker 1: be a serviceable quarterback until you thought Justin Herbert was ready.
Speaker 1: I was told that by a scout Herbert's not ready
Speaker 1: right now. And I said, well, what is it that
Speaker 1: he has to get ready for? What's missing here? And
Speaker 1: the scout said, he's not consistent enough. He has everything,
Speaker 1: he's not consistent enough. And then I watched hard Knocks
Speaker 1: and I saw some of those throws. Now, granted you're
Speaker 1: in practice, but I remember when the veterans were stopping
Speaker 1: to watch him throw, and I went, that's different because
Speaker 1: normally you heard this with the Patriots, some of the
Speaker 1: defensive back said mac Jones is one of us. He's
Speaker 1: not a rookie. After that performance against Tom Braiding the Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: the veterans have to be convinced. And you got that
Speaker 1: feeling at the time when you were watching him in
Speaker 1: practice during hard notch and he went, that's different, but
Speaker 1: you got to do it in a game. And keep
Speaker 1: in mind when he got the job, when he got
Speaker 1: his first start, what happened, Hey, Tyrod Taylor got a
Speaker 1: punctured lung. You're playing, okay. There was no build up,
Speaker 1: just go in, you play, and then you go, ah,
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. But you know these so called
Speaker 1: experts who are now saying, oh man, what were the
Speaker 1: Dolphins thinking? Well, I know Detroit was interested into it.
Speaker 1: There are other teams that think to a tongue of
Speaker 1: Iloa is still a viable NFL quarterback. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't like his arm strength or lack thereof. It always
Speaker 1: looks like he's really working hard to throw the football.
Speaker 1: Can he stay healthy? The Dolphins, I'm told and you
Speaker 1: know will be told you know, the same thing for
Speaker 1: a while is they're interested in Deshaun jan If you're
Speaker 1: interested into Shaun Watson, you're probably not interested into a
Speaker 1: tongue of ioloa, at least not in the long term.
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Speaker 1: If you could start your team with one quarterback, and
Speaker 1: I said, you can have justin Herbert, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: and I'll throw in Trevor Lawrence. Now, Trevor Lawrence is
Speaker 1: supposed to be the next Andrew Luck, and Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the next John Elway. I mean,
Speaker 1: Trevor's a big deal. I don't know about Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: long term, that style, but but I did love him
Speaker 1: coming out. You know, we get caught up in all
Speaker 1: he's small, Okay, what does he do? Well? Like he
Speaker 1: didn't get taller, like we make it seem like, you know,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Yeah, I don't know short, but is he good? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he looks like he's pretty good. I don't know
Speaker 1: if his height is really hurting him, but he didn't
Speaker 1: get taller where all of a sudden people are going
Speaker 1: You know, he could be MVP. Yes, he can be MVP,
Speaker 1: just like Lamar Jackson, where teams talk themselves out of
Speaker 1: what he did well. And I said that leading up
Speaker 1: to the draft, even after, what do you do well?
Speaker 1: And is that enough to overcome what you don't do well?
Speaker 1: And it goes back to what I've said before many
Speaker 1: times on this show. If you looked at Steve Nash
Speaker 1: at Santa Clara, you never would have drafted him. Why skinny,
Speaker 1: little white guy, He can't guard anybody? Can he get
Speaker 1: his shot? Is he going to hold up for eighty
Speaker 1: two games? He's a Hall of Famer. Steph Curry, Oh
Speaker 1: look at this skinny little guy out of Davidson. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna be able to guard anybody? Can he get
Speaker 1: his shot off? Can he hold up for eighty two games?
Speaker 1: Nobody looked at what they did well to overshadow what
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't do well, their shortcomings. And that's the
Speaker 1: same thing with Kyler Murray that's the same thing with
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Justin Herbert wasn't consistent in Oregon. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: was he a one year wonder? Trevor Lawrence can't miss
Speaker 1: see this is these are the discussions, the narratives there,
Speaker 1: And that's why it's always dangerous when you try to handicap,
Speaker 1: because you will talk yourself out of somebody more than
Speaker 1: you will talk yourself into somebody, plain and simple. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: A couple of stats on Kyler Murray. His rookie year,
Speaker 1: he was the most sacked quarterback in the league. Think
Speaker 1: he was sacked forty eight times last year, down to
Speaker 1: twenty seven times this year. He's on pace to be
Speaker 1: sacked only twenty nine times last year. Also, rushing, he
Speaker 1: ran one hundred and thirty three times eight attempts a game.
Speaker 1: He's down to five and a half attempts per game
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, and I love those numbers. But I
Speaker 1: will say, when you had Josh Rosen as the arterback
Speaker 1: in Arizona, that might be the worst offensive line I've
Speaker 1: seen in a long long time. And that's what I
Speaker 1: worried about with Kyler Murray is you have one read.
Speaker 1: You don't have any time, you just pull it down
Speaker 1: and you run, and that makes me nervous. There are
Speaker 1: certain guys who can and do it. You know, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray being a baseball player, he and Russell Wilson are
Speaker 1: very good at sliding. You got to avoid those hits.
Speaker 1: But Kyler Murray's probably you're leading candidate from VP and
Speaker 1: he's twenty four, like Herbert's twenty three, Josh Allen's twenty five,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's twenty four. Mahomes is old at twenty six.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is only twenty one. I mean, there's the
Speaker 1: next wave of quarterbacks and the NFL's in great hands.
Speaker 1: All Right, you're gonna settle on pole question, mclevan. We'll
Speaker 1: take a break, Bruce arians. We have to put up
Speaker 1: that quarterback pole with all those twenty five and under.
Speaker 1: We'll put the top five guys twenty five and under.
Speaker 1: I'm curious about the best team in the AFC right now,
Speaker 1: the Bills, Chargers, Chiefs, Browns, Ravens. I'd probably say it's
Speaker 1: the Bills. I think they win the poll. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do too. Well, you might have recency bias with the
Speaker 1: Chargers and beating the Chiefs in Kansas City Chiefs. I
Speaker 1: would not put up there, even though they're the betting
Speaker 1: favorite in Vegas. The Browns. You know, I have some
Speaker 1: numbers on Baker Mayfield that if you're a Browns fan,
Speaker 1: would make you at least hesitate a little bit before
Speaker 1: you sign up that big deal. You know that you're
Speaker 1: going to give him forty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Have that for you? Coming up? All right? See anything
Speaker 1: else we need to mention here? I think we've checked
Speaker 1: all the boxes, PAULI. You got the lottery results. The lottery. Wait,
Speaker 1: I thought somebody won powerball, Yes, last night in California. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: then what's the results. We didn't win. Oh I didn't
Speaker 1: know we were in I don't think we were. Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you. There's almost no chance if you don't play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's take a break here, Bruce. As you would think,
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians would not want to talk to the media
Speaker 1: after talking to the media all week long about Tom Brady, Patriots,
Speaker 1: everything that went into this. So when Fritzie said, Hey,
Speaker 1: Bruce Arian's going to join US, I go, okay, I
Speaker 1: might have to ask a question about New England, I
Speaker 1: said a first five questions source. Well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: script my questions like you know you script your plays.
Speaker 1: So how about I don't ask him about the game
Speaker 1: at all. I'll be fabulous or his quarterback, he'd probably
Speaker 1: loved that. All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: check in with the New York Giants their quarterback Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: We make way for Bruce Arian's, head coach of the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Coach. Good to have you back on.
Speaker 1: How would you describe the atmosphere there in New England
Speaker 1: this past Sunday night? It was definitely a playoff atmosphere,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. It was. It was a little bit surreal,
Speaker 1: but I thought Tom handled extremely well. What role do
Speaker 1: you play in a situation like that? I don't know
Speaker 1: how many times you've been in a situation where you have,
Speaker 1: you know, something like this homecoming or reunion of sorts,
Speaker 1: and you're talking to you know, your quarterback. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think for us, the whole message all week was, you know,
Speaker 1: we got to bounce back as a team having lost
Speaker 1: to the Rams. It's a team sport. It just happens
Speaker 1: to be Tom Brady's return, so New England. But we're
Speaker 1: playing the Patriots, and so we kept that team message
Speaker 1: all week and uh and Tom did a great job
Speaker 1: of keeping his feelings under control all week and we
Speaker 1: didn't play very well, but we won the ballgame. Why
Speaker 1: were you so annoyed with the hype heading into this
Speaker 1: because this is a team sport. You know, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: didn't win seven championships. The team won him. You know,
Speaker 1: the Patriots won him. He didn't win the championship here
Speaker 1: last year, the Bucks won the championship. He's the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But we try to make this thing a singles man
Speaker 1: sport too many times and build and win all those championships.
Speaker 1: He coached the team that did and I think we're
Speaker 1: losing sight of a football being a team sport. What
Speaker 1: did you think of the decision that Belichick was going
Speaker 1: to go for the field goal and not go for
Speaker 1: fourth and three. Uh, how what was your reaction to that?
Speaker 1: In real time? Though? I thought it was a perfect call.
Speaker 1: I'll watch Nick Folk knock that thing with heavier rain
Speaker 1: and warm ups from sixty So I was very, very nervous.
Speaker 1: I knew he could make that kick, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was a perfect call by a Bill to do it. See,
Speaker 1: I was surprised because even if he made it, he's
Speaker 1: still giving Tom the ball with fifty five seconds to
Speaker 1: go and two time outs. And I like your odds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think for for for him and for me. Also,
Speaker 1: that's time to play defense and uh, you know for
Speaker 1: our kick, or we'd have to get all the way
Speaker 1: to the thirty five and with two timeouts, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be impossible. I would like I like our chances too,
Speaker 1: but I want to be winning when that thing. I
Speaker 1: don't want to lose it on the fourth and three.
Speaker 1: What do you think of replay? Uh? I love replay.
Speaker 1: I don't like the interpretations of the rules anymore. You know,
Speaker 1: things that were things that were something for one hundred
Speaker 1: years aren't the same anymore. We're changing rules every single year.
Speaker 1: That have been rules forever, and so yeah, I love replay.
Speaker 1: I just cannot stand the interpretation of some rules. I'll
Speaker 1: say it, so you don't get fined. I thought you
Speaker 1: got screwed. Uh need you Kobe Myers catch coach? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what you know. There's now
Speaker 1: a third element to a fumble. And I thought a
Speaker 1: football move was running towards your goal line, so when
Speaker 1: you catch it, you might bobble it, but then you
Speaker 1: got total control for two steps and somebody punches it
Speaker 1: out from behind. That's a fumble. It always has been
Speaker 1: a fumble. Now it's not a fumble. So I just
Speaker 1: throw my hands up anymore. How did we watch football, coach,
Speaker 1: back when we were younger, when you know, we didn't
Speaker 1: worry about what's a catch and ground causing the fumble
Speaker 1: or a football move? I mean this, it feels like
Speaker 1: they're adding instead of subtracting. Oh, totally totally trying to
Speaker 1: you know, what is a catch? What's a fumble? Hell?
Speaker 1: What's a touchdown? I don't know what. You crossed the
Speaker 1: boat goal line with the ball and control of your
Speaker 1: hands is down. But you know, I'm not on the
Speaker 1: competition committee anymore. But uh yeah, I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not in favor of some of the new rules.
Speaker 1: I think the taunting thing has gotten out of control already.
Speaker 1: I don't know what taunting is and isn't coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all know what it is.
Speaker 1: But it's not jubilant celebration or talking a little bit
Speaker 1: of crap. I mean, uh, it's it's the over the
Speaker 1: over the top jumping in somebody's face. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we've we've gotten to the to the point
Speaker 1: now where we're trying to ficiate everything. Do you talk
Speaker 1: smack during the game non stop? Like, but who are
Speaker 1: you saying it too? Referee players? Wait, you're saying it
Speaker 1: to the opposition. If I know the guys h like
Speaker 1: for instance, oh for Richard Sherman, now that he's on
Speaker 1: my team, I can't believe it. We tell more crap
Speaker 1: against each other for all those years in Arizona and
Speaker 1: uh and some of the other guys that that I know,
Speaker 1: and uh you know, uh so, yeah, it's that's a
Speaker 1: fun part of it. How would you sum up what's
Speaker 1: going on with your secondary right now? It's a it's
Speaker 1: a hospital Award. I mean, we probably have possibly one
Speaker 1: starter this week and uh three guys that got here
Speaker 1: a month ago. So uh, kyd Boz will do a
Speaker 1: hell of a job. He'll have him ready to play,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, injuries are not an excuse in this business.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Bruce arians third season is the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: head coach? Do you consider Belichick the best NFL coach
Speaker 1: of all time? I think one of the top three
Speaker 1: for sure. You know, I've got great respect for Don
Speaker 1: Shula and Chuck No. I think coach belichick's're right there
Speaker 1: with him. What does he do better than everybody else
Speaker 1: in the modern game. I think he takes away your
Speaker 1: strengths and and he knows your weaknesses and he tries
Speaker 1: to take them away too. I mean he's defensively, they've
Speaker 1: been as hard to go against as anybody that I've
Speaker 1: gone to in my twenty seven years. I talked to
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer yesterday and he said, Tom Brady has seen
Speaker 1: every kind of defensive front, He's seen all of that,
Speaker 1: but Belichick still found a way to frustrate him. Did
Speaker 1: you sense that? Yeah, yes, and no. I think we
Speaker 1: played we played offensively as bad as we could play
Speaker 1: as a group of receivers and people doing the right
Speaker 1: thing and being in the right spacing, and Tom was very,
Speaker 1: very careful with the ball. But they did a great
Speaker 1: job of taking some things away, but they don't take
Speaker 1: everything away. And you've got to find out which which
Speaker 1: one it is. Gronk's injury ribs now punctured lung, what's
Speaker 1: what's the outlook best case scenario for him? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: lungs all cleared up, and so now it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be pain tolerance. And I think they were concerned about
Speaker 1: one of the ribs as far as being displaced. So
Speaker 1: it's day to day. Take me back to when you
Speaker 1: were seven and five. Last year, late November. What happened.
Speaker 1: Was there anything that you go I could put my
Speaker 1: finger on it that happened that changed us? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think it really was halftime of Atlanta. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about all the things we wanted to improve upon
Speaker 1: over an open day. We came out, we beat Minnesota,
Speaker 1: but then we're seventeen nothing, and it was hey, we
Speaker 1: got to attack and we're gonna put it. I told Byron,
Speaker 1: all those home runs on that sheet, call them all,
Speaker 1: call them at a road we're attacking. We're not going
Speaker 1: to stop attacking. And same thing with Todd on defense,
Speaker 1: We're going to attack. We took that mode and we
Speaker 1: never stopped it. You know. We started pushing the ball
Speaker 1: down the field offensively. We started getting that people more
Speaker 1: on defense and playing to our strengths. And Tom really
Speaker 1: played extremely well and our team did. We cut the
Speaker 1: penalties out. We just played really good team football. Can
Speaker 1: you explain the difference of a spread offense and the
Speaker 1: West Coast offense? The West Coast One's always baffled me
Speaker 1: because I don't know where that came. I don't Bill
Speaker 1: Walsh's offense, you know, and uh, but people have evolved
Speaker 1: the spread. I think the spread is the read option.
Speaker 1: To me, you're you've got four receivers spread out all
Speaker 1: over the field and the quarterback's going to read. The
Speaker 1: option part of the run game and the RPO part
Speaker 1: of it. The college offense that some teams are running
Speaker 1: down the NFL, But the West Coast is uh, that
Speaker 1: was a two back set that no one has anymore.
Speaker 1: So I don't think there is a West Coast offense
Speaker 1: after it. There's a lot of the terminology, yeah, that
Speaker 1: that coaches are still using Coach Walsh's terminology, but they're
Speaker 1: not running the West coast. Do you sample from college?
Speaker 1: For us, it's what what do your players? What abilities
Speaker 1: do they have? How can we maximize their talent and
Speaker 1: just put the plays in that work for them. If
Speaker 1: there was an open draft and I give you the
Speaker 1: first pick of all these quarterbacks under age twenty six, hypothetical,
Speaker 1: so I got Justin Herbert, Kyler, Murray, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Mare, Jackson, Patrick,
Speaker 1: let me take my homes out of this, Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: uh right, Justin Herbert right now, he's played as good
Speaker 1: as anybody. You know, he's got he's got the all
Speaker 1: the measurables of what great quarterbacks have always had. You know,
Speaker 1: he's got the hype, arm, the speed, the size, and
Speaker 1: so I don't know if anybody's playing any better than
Speaker 1: him right now, even Patrick, but also Coach, you know,
Speaker 1: the one thing for sure is that there for about
Speaker 1: eight years, we went through the flux of no quarterbacks
Speaker 1: coming out of college. Now, with all the passing leaks
Speaker 1: in high school and all, you're getting the quality of
Speaker 1: quarterback player coming out of college now. It's way better
Speaker 1: than it has been. I mentioned this about twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 1: It feels like the NFL experts will talk themselves out
Speaker 1: of somebody like Lamar Jackson, Well he can't do this,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, he's too short and that's dangerous. The analogy
Speaker 1: also made was like Steph Curry, if you saw him
Speaker 1: in college, you go, he can't play in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Or Steve Nash he can't play in the NBA. Well,
Speaker 1: why is it that we talk ourselves out of something
Speaker 1: instead of looking at the positives to say this is
Speaker 1: what they do so well? That overshadows that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's the world today. You know what I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: I mean everything's negative, you know everything. Let's find the
Speaker 1: negative part of it and not the positive part of it.
Speaker 1: And for me, I'll boys coached the way that everybody's
Speaker 1: got a talent. Now, let's let's make sure that we
Speaker 1: build those strengths and maximum ensures. Weaknesses get better too.
Speaker 1: But let's build on the strength. Everybody's got a how
Speaker 1: many hats you got? Oh? My wife gets pissed every
Speaker 1: day because there's a stack on this drawer. There's a
Speaker 1: stack to put the damn things away somewhere I got
Speaker 1: a drawer full. I don't have him more room in
Speaker 1: a drawer. Are you superstitious? I swear I'm not. But
Speaker 1: if you win with it, if you lose with a
Speaker 1: hat like the hat you wore with the Rams, do
Speaker 1: you get rid of that? It's gone? How about the
Speaker 1: super Bowl hat as it's up on the shelf but itself,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I would. I would put I'm surprised
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame didn't ask for that. They actually did.
Speaker 1: They got They got the whole thing, the shirt, the hat, everything,
Speaker 1: and uh, I really wanted to keep it, but I'd
Speaker 1: rather have it there. Hey, great to talk to you,
Speaker 1: a coach, and uh, good luck against the Dolphins this Sunday.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time as always. Are you bad? Dan?
Speaker 1: Always a friend? That's Bruce Arians of course, Uh, super
Speaker 1: Bowl champ. He was an assistant with the Steelers and
Speaker 1: I won a couple of Super Bowls there as well. Yes, Paul,
Speaker 1: the guys over on the side of glass say the
Speaker 1: same thing every time we have coach Ariians on. I
Speaker 1: could see why you'd want to play for him, just
Speaker 1: by your conversation with him. Yeah, I think there's that
Speaker 1: vibe that Hey, I might get on your rear end,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: some fun. And I was curious about that seven and
Speaker 1: five record, what happened and the fact that he said
Speaker 1: let's be aggressive on both sides to the ball, and
Speaker 1: that changed that team. They didn't lose and hadn't lost
Speaker 1: until they lost to the Rams. All right, we'll settle
Speaker 1: on our poll question, McLevin. We have the best AFC
Speaker 1: team Bills, Browns, Ravens, Chiefs or Chargers. Okay, that's the
Speaker 1: poll question. Eight seven seven three d P Show email
Speaker 1: ADDRESSDP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show.
Speaker 1: We have a solution for the one game playoff in
Speaker 1: the postseason, Paulie does. Yes, McLevin, you want to distance
Speaker 1: yourself from this, I think. Okay, well that's why I said,
Speaker 1: Pauli has it. Yeah, this is not something we discussed
Speaker 1: prior to the show. If we could just stop using
Speaker 1: the term we, yeah, you, it's a suggestion instead of
Speaker 1: a one game playoff. Now, the faults of the one
Speaker 1: game playoff is you're not getting a representation of what
Speaker 1: that team's all about, the pitching staff, whatever, whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: how about a double header and you aggregate the score
Speaker 1: of the double header. So it like kind of like soccer.
Speaker 1: Soccer does that, right Seaton where they have big time
Speaker 1: metro and aggregate. Even Seaton doesn't like this. But you
Speaker 1: play a double header, you get start a couple of pitchers,
Speaker 1: you play two full games, and the combined you know,
Speaker 1: the aggregate score moves on. It's a double header. It's
Speaker 1: still done in one day. Yes, if only there was say,
Speaker 1: an entire season leading up to those couple of games
Speaker 1: that allowed people to prove their value in and then
Speaker 1: that would determine their standings. Sounds sarcastic. Yes, So the
Speaker 1: game starts at eight o'clock tonight. The estimated ETA to
Speaker 1: end is one forty five a m. In the morning.
Speaker 1: That's when not true. I will bet you. I'll bet
Speaker 1: you anything that goes in tomorrow. I'll bet anybody here. Well, no,
Speaker 1: it'll go four hours. Yeah, but I mean it's it
Speaker 1: might go deep tonight. That's what they're saying with the
Speaker 1: pitching changes. Okay, one am, is it not unrealistic? So
Speaker 1: I could play a doubleheader, well, you would start during
Speaker 1: the day. They sell doubleheaders at night. It's just too
Speaker 1: much baseball. You could play in the afternoon. You could
Speaker 1: have a one o'clock start and around six thirty five
Speaker 1: pm and then turn around and then you'd have eight o'clock. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want the doubleheader. It's just there's there's this
Speaker 1: outcry because of the quality of teams that the Dodgers
Speaker 1: win one hundred and six games and baseball's not being fair. Well,
Speaker 1: you had an entire season to win the division. We
Speaker 1: didn't know the Giants were going to be this good.
Speaker 1: But now it's one game. Well, the reason why it's
Speaker 1: a crime against humanity is because it's the Dodgers, It's
Speaker 1: you know, the Cardinals, it's the Yankees, and it's the Reds.
Speaker 1: Say it before this happens. Say it at the start
Speaker 1: of next season, because once again, if Tampa was playing Toronto,
Speaker 1: no one would be saying, oh, we're not being fair
Speaker 1: to them. You gotta have a three game series. It's
Speaker 1: the Red Sox and the Yankees, and it's one game.
Speaker 1: Like it or not, it's one game. These were the rules,
Speaker 1: This was the format prior to the start of the season. Yes, toime,
Speaker 1: I do like the idea of a double header, not
Speaker 1: the aggregate total rugs part. And then if they split
Speaker 1: the double header, then you got the one game playoff
Speaker 1: the next day's delaying it. At least both both teams
Speaker 1: had a chance to sweep the double header to really
Speaker 1: prove they deserve to move on. Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We got our play the day coming up next, and
Speaker 1: we'll get to more phone calls, not necessarily phone calls
Speaker 1: on this topic of Paulie with the aggregate score. Unless
Speaker 1: you have a better idea. Everybody seems to have a
Speaker 1: better idea. But oh, you can't. They gotta play three games. Okay,
Speaker 1: why would I love to see three games? Sure, but
Speaker 1: you can't go. Oh, these are the teams. You gotta
Speaker 1: play three games. It's we want to see these teams play.
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Speaker 1: We have a new game to play today. That game
Speaker 1: is how much will Joey Bosa have to pay the
Speaker 1: league after he had these comments post game last night.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know they called the penalty on me
Speaker 1: because I was fuming. But refs are blind. Simple, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but you're blind. Open your eyes and do your job.
Speaker 1: It's so bad, unbelievable. Look at the play sack game
Speaker 1: over fifteen yards. It's a big deal. Obviously, that's on me.
Speaker 1: I should never lose my control like that. But these
Speaker 1: guys have got to do a better job because it's
Speaker 1: been years of terrible, terrible miss calls left and right.
Speaker 1: That's really pathetic, honestly, but pathetic on me too for
Speaker 1: doing what I did call or not. I have to
Speaker 1: take a step back and just go to the next play.
Speaker 1: But man, they just seem to not have their eyes
Speaker 1: open half the time. Okay, let's play the game. How
Speaker 1: much is Joey Bosa fined? Yes, Paul, I have a
Speaker 1: question before we get to the game. Okay, if you
Speaker 1: read it, it sounds like he's really laying into the
Speaker 1: officials in NFL. But if you said Joey Bosa goes
Speaker 1: on rant, he sounds like a high surfer. He doesn't
Speaker 1: seem very angry. Does that mitigate the fine they so demure? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the tone that I think
Speaker 1: it has to do with what are you saying in
Speaker 1: that tone? Because you could be like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just want to say those officials are horrible. They really
Speaker 1: really are, like like like you could have Jim Parsons
Speaker 1: from the Big Bang Theory, like you know, Sheldon would
Speaker 1: be like, you know, um, yeah, I just thought that
Speaker 1: they were They were really crappy. I really did. I
Speaker 1: don't think tone matters here. Yeah, no, what do you
Speaker 1: guys blind? Un come on, those guys said they they
Speaker 1: can't see. Yes, mclovin, this is an investment for Joey Bosa.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get the next holding call. So what
Speaker 1: is it one hundred and fifty thousand? Okay, gets paid
Speaker 1: extumber millions. He's working the refs like Phil Jackson in
Speaker 1: the finals. Wait, you're going with one hundred fifty thousand dollars. Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess actually, I don't know what you usually get
Speaker 1: for this one. Yeah, I'll go whateb fifty Okay, let
Speaker 1: me let me start with you Todd. I was initially
Speaker 1: gonna say twenty five thousand, but because of his tone
Speaker 1: and because he was self deprecating and blamed himself too
Speaker 1: for part of it, I'm gonna take five off of it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say an even twenty thousand dollars. Okay, twenty
Speaker 1: grand McLevin has gone one fifty. But now that he
Speaker 1: says twenty, I might have way got overboard. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: it's somewhere in between. If you go over then you're eliminated.
Speaker 1: Just letting you know if you go over there, eliminated. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Seaton O'Connor. How much is Joey Bosa fined for those comments? Well,
Speaker 1: with that new caveat of going over, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars okay, paly yester, twelve thousand dollars, twelve thousand,
Speaker 1: new rules, twelve thousand, five hundred. Who mmmm um, let's
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna do twenty thousand and one dollar. Yeah roasted, Yeah, wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should find out in a few hours there. So
Speaker 1: I've got twenty thousand and one dollar all the way
Speaker 1: up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so I
Speaker 1: have a little bit of room there if Joey gets
Speaker 1: fined what he gets fined? Yes, McLeod, Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: way overboard. But this guy is making hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. What does he care about twenty thousand? This
Speaker 1: is a nothing, right, Yeah, it's nothing. But I don't
Speaker 1: know like there, I don't think that they find you
Speaker 1: in accordance to how bad you were, how critical you were.
Speaker 1: It's you, did you criticize the officials? Okay, that's going
Speaker 1: to cost you. I don't think they have a like
Speaker 1: a sliding scale that says, oh my god, he called
Speaker 1: them blind. Fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, Paul Joey Bosa has
Speaker 1: been fined before last year for a low hit on
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. He was fine fifteen thousand for roughing the passer,
Speaker 1: which is worse, roughing the passer or roughing the officials.
Speaker 1: Roughing the officials. Yes, absolutely, yes, Todd. I looked at
Speaker 1: some recent stories that suggest that a couple of coaches,
Speaker 1: including Mike Tomlin for criticizing officials get twenty five thousand.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a standard thing. Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: got twelve thousand, five hundred for criticizing officials. I wonder
Speaker 1: where that how that'll factor in tower little game here.
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you Todd. On a couple of
Speaker 1: phone calls here, we will hear from Urban Meyer from yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how we advanced this other than
Speaker 1: the owner, Shod Khan. You know, his opinion matters the
Speaker 1: most here, well aside from Urban's wife, but you know
Speaker 1: that that's for them to discuss. I'm talking the football
Speaker 1: side of this, with what happened with Urban Meyer back
Speaker 1: in Columbus at his steakhouse and sitting at the ball
Speaker 1: are and there's a woman who is, for the lack
Speaker 1: of better description, grinding on him. And Urban had this
Speaker 1: to say yesterday at his press conference. I just apologize
Speaker 1: to the team and the staff and for being a
Speaker 1: distraction is stupid, and so I explained everything that happened
Speaker 1: and owned it, and you know, just stupid. Should I'd
Speaker 1: have myself in that kind of position. He also followed
Speaker 1: up by saying this, I spoke to a bunch of
Speaker 1: leaders one on one and spooked all the players. They're good,
Speaker 1: they were focused on Tennessee. And I apologized again for
Speaker 1: being a distraction and coaching up a distraction. I just
Speaker 1: care about what the owner has to say. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the players are going to play differently react
Speaker 1: to this, but it feels like the owner, you know,
Speaker 1: you've you've given urban Meyer a great opportunity here, and
Speaker 1: you know he didn't fly back with the players. Now
Speaker 1: that might seem odd, but he's also back in Columbus,
Speaker 1: where I believe he was seeing family, grandkids, and you know,
Speaker 1: he probably said to his owner, Hey, you know, it's
Speaker 1: following a Thursday night game. I'd love to be able
Speaker 1: to see my family. And you know, we're going to
Speaker 1: give the guys a day off or two days off,
Speaker 1: and then I'll be back down to Jacksonville. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: you know, people were like, oh, he didn't fly home
Speaker 1: with the team. No, because his family is in Columbus.
Speaker 1: So he went from Cincinnati up to Columbus, which is
Speaker 1: going to take him probably less than two hours to
Speaker 1: get up there and be able to see his grandkids.
Speaker 1: He went out to the bar, people took videos at
Speaker 1: a couple of different angles of what was going on
Speaker 1: at the bar, But throughout his press conference he had
Speaker 1: his head down like he wasn't he was speaking really
Speaker 1: to the podium. And you wonder, if he's the Ohio
Speaker 1: State coach, does this happen in Columbus? Not that that
Speaker 1: makes it, you know, any better. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: here he is where he used to run Columbus, in
Speaker 1: his steakhouse, and is somebody going to put out a
Speaker 1: video of that? This is Urban Meyer, even though he
Speaker 1: had Ohio State gear on. This is Urban Meyer, who
Speaker 1: used to be your football coach, and now you're the
Speaker 1: head coach in Jacksonville? Yeah, mclub, Is this that comed
Speaker 1: away a time to maybe part ways early before things spin?
Speaker 1: Oppi's the football team hasn't look good. I guess it's
Speaker 1: always possible, But I'm that seems really really reactionary. Now
Speaker 1: do I have my downs about Urban Meyers an NFL
Speaker 1: head coach? Yess I do, But that was from the outset,
Speaker 1: not because of this. I think he's made some poor decisions.
Speaker 1: This is another poor decision. This is off the field.
Speaker 1: But what he had to say yesterday, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: very contrite. Yeah, Poling, I've got the menu at the
Speaker 1: restaurant Urban Meyer's Pinehouse in Dublin, Ohio, and it's a
Speaker 1: lovely restaurant. Black and Mah tacos. A pound of wings
Speaker 1: or fifteen dollars a pound pound. Yeah, they give you
Speaker 1: a whole pound of wings. Whatever that is, Todd Well,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say they're known for their grinders.
Speaker 1: That's all I just But if we were playing match game,
Speaker 1: the old game said that would be the winner. Everyone
Speaker 1: would have that across the dry rubbed, all six, all
Speaker 1: six levels would go. I went with grinder. You know
Speaker 1: he's gonna have everybody. I didn't think it was now
Speaker 1: we thought it. I just didn't think, alrighty, Jim nance
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