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Speaker 1: Ryan McNeill for me eleven year NFL O pro founder

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Speaker 1: Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, everybody?

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Speaker 3: I'm peanut to Himan and this is the NFL Player's

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Speaker 3: Second Acts Podcast. I got my guy with me, Roman

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Speaker 3: harp On, what's up baby? I'm good, I'm high, and

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Speaker 3: we got that energy going around. And yes, we got

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Speaker 3: all dvs on the set right now.

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Speaker 2: So I'm actually.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be a great one.

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Speaker 5: So first and foremost, thank you to iHeart for letting

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Speaker 5: us get their studio right here in western West midtown Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty fancy over here. It's nice studio, nice setup,

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Speaker 5: and I can't wait to have our conversation with our

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Speaker 5: guest today.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: So he is the product of the U or the

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Speaker 3: University of Miami. He won two national championships, played DB's

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Speaker 3: and Pro Bowl for eleven season, successful business man and

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Speaker 3: the CEO of a whole.

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Speaker 6: Bunch of companies, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the pod, Ron McNeilly, got you gotta say something?

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Speaker 1: Do up to you?

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Speaker 4: And your fingers are all flailing. Hey man, It's like

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Speaker 4: it's very detail.

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Speaker 1: It's very detailed. Nice and christ.

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Speaker 5: I just did it nice and Chris the two Thoumbds

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Speaker 5: kidnect Yes, you can't be all.

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Speaker 3: I didn't actually go, so I wasn't trying to make it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to think like I went there. I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to, like me saying, hey, I'm a cute

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Speaker 3: do something. I'm not really throwing it up. I just like,

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Speaker 3: thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah, I just appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it to you went there. I didn't

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Speaker 4: go there school.

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Speaker 5: How quickly did you get acclimated to the life of

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Speaker 5: football after you? I mean you had Dennis Ericson Jimmy

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Speaker 5: Johnson as your coaches, you had multiple multiple the blades,

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Speaker 5: had all kinds of teammates that were all so great.

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Speaker 5: Like you said earlier, you lost five games in your

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Speaker 5: whole college career.

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Speaker 1: So I would say probably when we first got on campus.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson was first coach when he left them with

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Speaker 1: the Dallas. Then then we got then Sir from Washington State.

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Speaker 1: But Jimmy Johnson tricked us all the freshmen from a

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Speaker 1: freshman He wanted us to come down from the facility

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Speaker 1: and watch the upperclassmen work out. It was the beginning

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Speaker 1: of fallball, right, and he's like, y'all just just watch.

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Speaker 1: And so we're watching them go through U drills and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: And you know, those who don't know, coach Jimmy Johnson

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Speaker 1: is a psychology major. We were looking and looking yo,

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Speaker 1: oh man, that's you know, Oh, he's big, he's fans.

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Speaker 1: And then he was watching us like purposely. It's like

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Speaker 1: ten nine eight seven, Hey, y'all want to get some

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Speaker 1: So everybody's been around you. I don't know. It's like

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Speaker 1: and he threw us in the fire first day and

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Speaker 1: the rest is like history. The older guys was like,

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Speaker 1: come on, y'all, get some of this. And drills from drills. Drills.

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Speaker 1: We had to run to east drill, uh not slow

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Speaker 1: the freshman drill and everybody else. Everybody we had to

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Speaker 1: keep the same pace, same intensity as the upperclassmen did.

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Speaker 3: That's cool, So I want to I want to know

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Speaker 3: about that was when football was like real. Y'all was

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Speaker 3: still hitting, especially like in the league, Like y'all was

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Speaker 3: still like thumping. Y'all was laying that Wood. I want

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Speaker 3: to know what was your welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 1: A couple of things. One, I'll say this so everybody

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Speaker 1: It's like, what was the what was the was he

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Speaker 1: with that being the case, got to Detroit thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: wasn't hearing the veterans hey carrying my shoulder pads, carry

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing and that rookie I'm pretty sure do though.

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Speaker 1: But then we had Tim Kayer came over from San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and Tim was like, when I was a rookie, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I don't like trying to hear that. And so

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Speaker 1: Benny didn't like the fact that I would tune Tim out.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, no, Tim, I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: Everybody cracking up, and I'm saying to myself, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: go one of two ways. I can accept it, be humble,

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Speaker 1: But it's my big brother, right. It's like, was like,

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Speaker 1: Moment's like calm yourself and refocus because they expected me

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Speaker 1: people who know me, I'm pretty serious about everything I

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Speaker 1: do right, focus serious, But Tim got under my skin

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Speaker 1: my first few months there, and I'll say this, throughout

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Speaker 1: I became as came out, let me show you what

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Speaker 1: you're doing wrong, rook. Do this, da da da da,

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Speaker 1: put your feet there, plant this way, and came tight.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm glad I shifted my mindset and my

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Speaker 1: focus to be receptive right to the process. It's like

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Speaker 1: all Rickids had to go through it. I'm not that

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Speaker 1: and I think that was my that was my Wellington

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Speaker 4: We do some research on this show.

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Speaker 5: You know, we try and look up guys, try to

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Speaker 5: learn a couple of things, right right, You know when

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Speaker 5: you look people name up. Some videos pop up every

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Speaker 5: now and then. Why don't you like talking about two teams?

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Speaker 5: Your experiences with two teams?

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Speaker 2: Simple years. I want to say the names you want

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Speaker 5: I'm I said no, I mean, I'm not gonna say I.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I said, I'm begrudgingly with Nina early. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but I'll say this because the first one took the

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Speaker 1: fun out of playing football so much. I come to

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Speaker 1: play the retirement. I'm being dead serious. What year was

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Speaker 1: this for you? This was? It wasn't ninety nine?

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Speaker 5: Okay? So what years league was that? That was like

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Speaker 5: six or seven? Yeah, that was probably like six seven, Okay.

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Speaker 5: Coach is important.

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Speaker 1: Coach is important, and it was so different that I

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Speaker 1: contemplated retirement and I want to have fun and not

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Speaker 1: that I'm the fun you know, gregarious guy. That's not me.

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Speaker 1: I'm focused, laser focused, serious boom boom, boom boom. Even

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Speaker 1: I wasn't having fun. It's like I'm looking around the

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Speaker 1: is not what I'm used to, This is not what

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Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah and so uh, and that's the

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Speaker 1: reason why I don't. I don't. I don't say that team.

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Speaker 1: And it was a situation where the positive from that

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Speaker 1: the bonds of some of the teammates got stronger in

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Speaker 1: misery mission love company, right company, and so we got stronger,

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Speaker 1: we knew each other better, went out to do other

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Speaker 1: charge I should I should have just set out, chill,

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Speaker 1: that to sign. And I think I signed, uh, probably

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Speaker 1: opposed to you know, being smart, because it wasn't gonna

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Speaker 5: And that then that second team went to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: We did ten and six, but we got lit up because.

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Speaker 1: We played the team the week before to get the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and so it was like, those aren't the plays that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna run. They're gonna be some different agains, the

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Speaker 1: same sus waiting all over again. They put out the

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Speaker 1: best team, big team next week. Everybody healthy, everybody, everybody

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Speaker 5: The formations, everything different, all right, Well for our viewers

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Speaker 5: The first team you talked about was the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 5: second team was the ten and six Denver Broncos with

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Speaker 1: All right, moving on, we don't have to talk about

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Speaker 1: those teams anymore now. No, Mike Shanahan's good coach. The

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Speaker 1: other coach I won't. Yeah, I didn't even mention his name, good, good, perfect.

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Speaker 3: I want to know you saw yourself as a businessman

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Speaker 3: playing football.

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Speaker 6: Where did that model come from?

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Speaker 1: My rookie yet held out. I think that was the

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Speaker 1: first year of the new collective bargaining a green right.

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Speaker 1: I think that was the first year of that. And

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Speaker 1: unfortunately Detroit they played hardball with their stars, their draft

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Speaker 1: picks and things like that, and they don't need more luckily. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: that's why they're better and so coming in. And I

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Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to be a long drawn

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Speaker 4: Okay, uh a long time, long time.

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Speaker 1: I think I gotta like And he threw me into

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Speaker 1: the fire too. I think he played New Orleans the

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Speaker 1: last preseason game, but last second to the last preseason game.

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Speaker 1: I remember having to tackle Big Lorenzo Neil one on

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Speaker 1: one in the flat. I was like, Hey, this is

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Speaker 1: this that could be my other Welmington NFL moment. You

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Speaker 1: got to go get him, and I did. He went down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he went down. Didn't I didn't knock him down and

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Speaker 1: I tackled him. So I'm gonna I tell everybody, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna knock your head off, but I'm a sure tackle.

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Speaker 1: Getting back to the question, I had to negotiate with

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Speaker 1: Chuck Smiant and Michael Hugh, and Michael Hugh went to

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Speaker 1: he was the Ivy League guy, but he and I

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Speaker 1: were adversaries all in water first, right, all the water first,

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Speaker 5: My best my best year of statistically, I didn't go then,

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Speaker 5: If it makes you, if it does anything for you,

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Speaker 5: Because I was pissed. Did they throw that in your

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Speaker 1: You know, they gave my bread. I ain't mad at it.

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Speaker 4: Hit the market.

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Speaker 5: So we're going to really change the subject because I

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Speaker 4: We got too many good dB We do, we do,

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Speaker 5: You talked about some of the uh uh your career goals,

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Speaker 1: time shift. So little Mikey is Michael now, little tweet

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Speaker 1: tweet just touch on. Everybody's grown up. And so the

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Speaker 1: thing I was always ask them, Hey, what do the

436
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Speaker 1: grades look like? And what sports you're playing? And so

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Speaker 1: grades were good, and uh, you know, the kids in

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Speaker 1: my family is like, my mama is making me play

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Speaker 1: such and such, my dad's making me play basketball? Whoa

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Speaker 1: whoa making you play? What kind of kids were raising

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Speaker 1: around here? And so they didn't have the love for

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Speaker 1: sports like we did growing up. And that's a problem

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Speaker 1: for me. And so you know, call around guys that

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Speaker 1: played in college, we're guys that played in pro with

445
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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, are the kids in your family,

446
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Speaker 1: you know, not as connected to sports. No all, they

447
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Speaker 1: want to sit around and play PlayStation and this and

448
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Speaker 1: this and this. I said, okay, So probably about five

449
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Speaker 1: six years ago, sat down with some mentors and advisors

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Speaker 1: and asked them one question, how can we make sports better? Right?

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Speaker 1: And we spent the whole weekend putting a ton of

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Speaker 1: things on the white board and two things came about

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Speaker 1: that one was a consensus, the other one was the majority.

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Speaker 1: The consensus was we had the leverage technology. Whatever we did,

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Speaker 1: we have a leverage technology. That was number one. Number

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Speaker 1: two was what medium or mechanism could we present to

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Speaker 1: the audience to get them to buy in, get them

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Speaker 1: to understand what we're trying to do. And that was LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: So we used that kind of LinkedIn model and the

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Speaker 1: best way we described sports ideas. Think of sports ideas

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Speaker 1: the LinkedIn for sports, but with data and A and

462
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Speaker 1: statistics built into the profiles. Our goal is to be

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Speaker 1: able to qualify and quantify everything and everybody in the

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Speaker 1: sports ecosystem, people, places, and things. We're starting with you

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Speaker 1: sports first. We'll build products and services on top of

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Speaker 1: that layer. The first one we'll star waits for sports

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Speaker 1: camps camp ID. So think of camp ID as the

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Speaker 1: yelp or angis list for sports camps. And so we'll

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Speaker 1: wash repeat that same methodology for other verticals in the

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Speaker 1: sports space, for coaches, for trainers, for tournaments, for venues,

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Speaker 1: you name it. So by the time we're finished, we'll

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Speaker 1: have the whole sports space qualified and quantified and make

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Speaker 1: it easy to navigate the sports space. Yeah, where did

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Speaker 1: that passion come from?

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Speaker 3: Because you get I mean, when I'm looking at now,

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Speaker 3: you got ot enterprises, overtime, camp I D, sport i D.

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Speaker 6: What did your passion for business or entrepreneurship come from?

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Speaker 1: My dad was an entrepreneur, okay, and so probably probably

479
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Speaker 1: got that from him SI at a young age. Yeah,

480
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Speaker 1: I probably got that from him. And then you know,

481
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Speaker 1: when we were younger, we all entrepreneurs selling something some

482
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Speaker 1: candy at the school, cutting lawns. I mean, I'm from Florida,

483
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Speaker 1: so it was a whole lot of lawns.

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Speaker 2: And they everybody got grass.

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Speaker 1: Everybody got grass, right, and so uh, my mom bought

486
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Speaker 1: me a gas powered lawnmower from Sears and Robot and

487
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Speaker 1: I made a ton of money.

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Speaker 4: That that's something you can make money in the summer.

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Speaker 1: If you want to work, you can make Williams. Williams

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Speaker 1: kind of cut your lawn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, right there used to be a thing.

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Speaker 6: People don't do that no more though everyone everyone has.

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Speaker 1: Like a long guy, a long guy, like that's just

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Speaker 1: the school. Things have changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was my own lawn guy the same My wife

497
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Speaker 4: fired me. Happened, like I got fired.

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Speaker 5: She's like, you're just not doing it, like nothing good,

499
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Speaker 5: but you're busy, and like I don't want no excuses.

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Speaker 2: So the fire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, that's it. And so with OT, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, you guys should be

503
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: UH around time we had OT magazine. You remember when

504
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Speaker 1: OT magazine was out, that was my magazine, so thiss

505
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: a lifestyle guide for professional athletes, and so sports ID

506
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Speaker 1: was born from that, not purposely. So we talked about

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Speaker 1: being a planner, talked about doing things the right way.

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00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: We were growing over in sports ID and a magaz

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Speaker 1: excuse me, on the on the magazine side, on OT side,

510
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Speaker 1: and we're looking for a bigger sales group agency to

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Speaker 1: UH to sell advertising for OT magazine. And then we

512
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Speaker 1: worked agreement with the group out of Chicago called Fox Associates,

513
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: did NFL background checks. Everything they tell us to do,

514
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Speaker 1: we did, UH did an agreement with them, and the

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Speaker 1: very first magazine they worked on for us, they did

516
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Speaker 1: fraud of us, and so we had to litigate that. Right,

517
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Speaker 1: So the litigation took maybe a year, slowed our growth down,

518
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Speaker 1: and so we won arbitration and mediation. We had to

519
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: mediate first, and then arbitration or arbortration in my favor,

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00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: and we got quite a bit of our money back,

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Speaker 1: probably nine dollar And so it's like, you had to

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Speaker 1: make a decision, what are you gonna do now. I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to do anything media related at the time,

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Speaker 1: and so I just started looking around. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I tell people all the time, I

526
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: embraced my inner geek, Right DB's I think are some

527
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: of the smartest players in sports, definitely on the football team.

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Speaker 1: And you guys can attest because we had to study,

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Speaker 1: not just hey, just run this dow now. We had

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Speaker 1: to study and we're going backwards and we're going backwards

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Speaker 1: at the same time, right as people, it's the hardest

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Speaker 1: job in sports. It's like, what do you mean it is?

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Speaker 1: Trust me? And so I just start poking around different things.

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Speaker 1: I know, I didn't want to be a franchise owner.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to coach. At the time, I said,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I would do is probably either commentate

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Speaker 1: or being in the front office. But I had this

538
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: entrepreneur bug. It was poking at me. I tried to

539
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Speaker 1: brush it off, try to you know, not think about it.

540
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: But God was like, yeah, naw, yeah, man, I want

541
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Speaker 1: you to do this, and so start going to meetup groups,

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Speaker 1: technology meetup groups, you know, clandestine with a little hoodie

543
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Speaker 1: on send in the back of room because I want

544
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Speaker 1: to listen and learn what developers talk about, how they talk,

545
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Speaker 1: what they think. And didn't know exactly what I was

546
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Speaker 1: going to do from there, but I want to have

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Speaker 1: that again in my pocket so when a time come

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Speaker 1: I can understand it. And then so you fast forward

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Speaker 1: about three years later, having the situations WROM when the

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Speaker 1: kids and my family. That kind of connected the dots

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Speaker 1: for me on the on the sports I D side.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and we'll be

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Speaker 3: back in a minute. So you work with a lot

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Speaker 3: of current player Excuse me, does it do you think

555
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Speaker 3: they understand the business of professional football?

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Speaker 1: I think more so now than when we came in.

557
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Speaker 1: They come in as business, businessman, business minded, having teams

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Speaker 1: already around them.

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Speaker 5: They think entrepreneur. Like I was on the campus earlier

560
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Speaker 5: this year. I was in l s U and I

561
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Speaker 5: had a kid that's a YouTube guy and puts a

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Speaker 5: whole bunch of stuff on.

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Speaker 4: Take already already. He was like, you know, man, what

564
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Speaker 4: do you think about Ira right right?

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Speaker 2: Twenty years old?

566
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Speaker 1: I love it?

567
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Speaker 5: Though I love it, I'm like, that's the best way

568
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Speaker 5: he grew money tax free. It's like I didn't know

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Speaker 5: about that un till like three years ago, four years ago.

570
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Speaker 5: And so for these like they're just so much more

571
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Speaker 5: hipping in tune to these things. Now, you asked them

572
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Speaker 5: to go holler at that girl over there. Now they

573
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: can't do that, but not directly, but I can.

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Speaker 2: It's just.

575
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Speaker 5: Like the things that they can do, this is what

576
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Speaker 5: they exactly don't feel comfortable being able to do exactly.

577
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Speaker 1: So we always talk about how do you make things

578
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Speaker 1: change or how do you change things? You got to

579
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: get early, you got to go early. And so for us,

580
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Speaker 1: the reason why we started sports that one of the

581
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Speaker 1: reasons why you started sports, I DA is kind of

582
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Speaker 1: demarketized data and information. Uh, we get you know, four

583
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Speaker 1: star five star. Who's who's the expert to say this

584
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Speaker 1: is a four star five star kid? I think I

585
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Speaker 1: probably come out now. I don't think we obviously we

586
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Speaker 1: didn't have star systems when I came out. I'm much

587
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Speaker 1: older than you guys. Probably I'll be maybe a one

588
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Speaker 1: star or no star. But the thing that Jimmy Johnson

589
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Speaker 1: and made his legacy on, he's a good evaluate of talent.

590
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: I remember Butch Davis, who was a crew coordinator at

591
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Speaker 1: the time, always coming down to four Pierce seeing me Ryan,

592
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Speaker 1: how you doing da da da da? And And I

593
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Speaker 1: think what helped I went to the Florida State football

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Speaker 1: camp the summer before, and I think they thought the

595
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Florida State was high on me and they wanted obviously right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it worked out. Uh And I tell people all

597
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: the time going to University of Miami was one of

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Speaker 1: the best decisions of my life and sports life. But yeah, kid, kid,

599
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: kids are different these days, peanut and uh and and

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Speaker 1: they get it and they understand branding. Some I think

601
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Speaker 1: go way way over to us, right, and so you

602
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: got to you gotta balance that out but I always

603
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: been an entrepreneur, entrepreneur minded, uh, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna ever change, even if I do go in

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Speaker 1: somebody's front office, even if I do start commentating and

606
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: things like that.

607
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: What's the driving force of your business philosophy? Solve small

608
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Speaker 4: problems for big.

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Speaker 1: Big markets. There we go. Yeah, uh, just I just

610
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Speaker 1: believe that sports is not rocket science. You know, we're

611
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Speaker 1: not curing cancer. But we were fortunate enough to be

612
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Speaker 1: accepted into a top technology accelerator having to be here

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. It was called the Farm and it's backed

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Speaker 1: by Boomtown Accelerators and Comcasts, So Comcasts is technically part

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Speaker 1: owner of sports.

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Speaker 2: I d.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that they made us do, even if

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Speaker 1: even though we had tons of sports expertise on our team,

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Speaker 1: we had myself Ray Farmer, former general manager for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. He's now a consultant for the l A. Rams.

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Speaker 1: Tory Durden went to more House, Georgia Tech engineering dual

622
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: Engineer degree at Harvard NBA James Perkins. He was a

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Speaker 1: retired PhD. I think he was the number third African

624
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Speaker 1: American to get a PhD from University of Pittsburgh. So

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Speaker 1: we had tons rob pleasure top back end architect and technology.

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Speaker 1: We had an established team, and despite all that, the

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Speaker 1: acceleraties wanted us to go continue to do customer discovery,

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Speaker 1: go out and talk to the customer potential customer user

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Speaker 1: all the time. And one of the things we kept

630
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Speaker 1: hearing was, hey, it's hard to find a camp, it's

631
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Speaker 1: hard to find a tournament, it's hard to find a team,

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Speaker 1: hard to find a coach, how to find a trainer.

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Speaker 1: And when you hear that, you know, you start seeing

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Speaker 1: the feelings of your user potentially use. And so what

635
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Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, we solve small problems.

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Speaker 1: That small problem for this mon this status family. It's

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Speaker 1: solved for them. But we got a huge market. The

638
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Speaker 1: youth sports space is a huge market and it's only

639
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Speaker 1: getting bigger because more kids are coming back to sports

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Speaker 1: to play. Right. It was a love of doing the

641
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: height of the concussions and then another low during the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: But now everybody started coming back and we just want

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Speaker 1: to make it easier for parents to be able to

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Speaker 1: navigate the sports space really really easy and do it

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Speaker 1: in a customized way for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I often look back at myself and I did

647
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Speaker 3: this thing when I retire, Like, what would you you know,

648
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Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant wrote that, like what would you wrote a

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Speaker 3: letter to yourself? Like what would I write myself or

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Speaker 3: what would I tell myself ten years from now as

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Speaker 3: a like as a child or my youth a thirty

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Speaker 3: three year old Ryan, you just retired. What does that

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Speaker 3: thirty three year old Ryan think about Ryan today after football,

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Speaker 3: with all his businesses and everything.

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Speaker 1: That's a damn good question. So probably a multitude of things.

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Speaker 1: But are you know, peel the onion back and say

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Speaker 1: don't be afraid?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know, you take chances, uh, believe

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Speaker 1: in yourself and then build a better good team. You know.

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00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: All my success individually stems from being a good teammate

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Speaker 1: and having good the teammates around, right.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and that's the one thing that I'm learning to do.

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Speaker 1: On the technical side, you and I Roman can go

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Speaker 1: out and watch kids play, and we can pick out

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Speaker 1: who's the fastest, the best, you know, and project three

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Speaker 1: or four years down the road what they're gonna look like.

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Speaker 1: Technology is a little different, right. So the one thing

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Speaker 1: that we've had trouble with and we finally of finding

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Speaker 1: a groove on is evaluating technical talent. Being a non

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Speaker 1: technical founder is tough. I can close my eyes and

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Speaker 1: listen to kids and tell you which kids gonna be

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Speaker 1: you know, good better and what I and whatnot. But

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Speaker 1: on the technical side, you know, when it has to

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Speaker 1: do with code and writing code, who's neat? Right?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: You created You're credited with the peanut punch. Right, It's

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Speaker 1: like it's been done before, but you've done it so

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Speaker 1: much and often and the result has been on a

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Speaker 1: positive side, right, And so that to me is really

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Speaker 1: really cool interesting. But from an evaluator, that gives you bonus. Roman,

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Speaker 1: you always get people in right positions and things like that,

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Speaker 1: and making up for your corner if it's corners, months

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Speaker 1: months money, So do something, do some knuckleheaders.

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Speaker 4: And I don't throw my hands up, like where was

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Speaker 4: the coverage at?

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Speaker 1: Don't do that?

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Speaker 2: You don't put them on blast.

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Speaker 1: I think it's right right, right, you.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: The camera followed Roman sideline. Okay, okay, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. And so it was tough to evaluate technical talent.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We tried on shore offshore, small firm, big firm, on shore,

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00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: big firm, wasn't a porty, you know, for we wasn't

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Speaker 1: a priority, right, and they will try specialized one and

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Speaker 1: two three person team. They didn't have capacity. We tried offshore.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times things get lost in translation. They

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Speaker 1: don't understand football. They think football soccer and things like that.

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Speaker 1: And you know tackle here is that. So we had

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Speaker 1: to go through that, and so I would say, knowing

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Speaker 1: what I know now, then I would say state of course.

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Speaker 1: You know it ain't easy, guys, when I tell you,

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00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: it's been tough as hell tough, it's been tough. But

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Speaker 1: we see the light at the end of the tunnel

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Speaker 1: and we'll be launching quite a few our products over

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Speaker 1: the next sixty days.

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Speaker 5: Well, Ryan, sometimes, you know, we like to throw unique

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Speaker 5: questions out there. Curveball, you can call it that. This

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Speaker 5: might even be a little screwball, yeah, you know, just

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Speaker 5: dancing up. There was no spem, so it's a knuckle

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Speaker 5: a knuckleball. Yeah, that's the little knuckleball screwballs.

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Speaker 4: Like they do in the cartoons. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 5: Mount Rushmore, yep, if you could have your Mount rush ooh,

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Speaker 5: four people of influence into your life? Oh Bill, you

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Speaker 5: two make you this version of Ryan who would that be?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that's another great question, Bro, that's another good question.

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Speaker 1: Ooh ooh so one. My mom love it. I mean

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Speaker 1: like she was number one fan, number one critic one

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Speaker 1: take you two and from f ball when you first

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Speaker 1: started right crying shoulder coach didn't know about football, but

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Speaker 1: she knew mindset stuff like that. So she was the

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Speaker 1: one that got you.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: This person, it's not a lot. It wasn't I never

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Speaker 1: met this person. It'd be my grandfather, my mom's father, right,

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Speaker 1: because I would hear all the things that he would

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Speaker 1: say and do and how people saw him and me

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Speaker 1: and things like that. The fourth person probably is my dad.

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Speaker 1: My dad played professional football. He played He went to

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Speaker 1: college here in Atlanta with Morris Brown. That's how he

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Speaker 1: and my mom met. Played in Canada, played pro in Canada.

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Speaker 1: But my dad wasn't even though he played. I get

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Speaker 1: my countryness or suddenness from him, you know, hunting, fishing

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Speaker 1: and just being a cool, calm collected cat. My dad

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Speaker 1: never really got really excited about too much. Never get

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Speaker 1: through hi, I never get too low. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a great quality. And then probably another person, probably my kids.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell y'all why being a bachelor, you know, you nothing,

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Speaker 1: you have to worry about nothing, But when you're responsible

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Speaker 1: for another life, it changes you and and it changed

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Speaker 1: and influenced me how I move even more so right

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Speaker 1: and cognisant that you not representing the family name past,

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Speaker 1: you represent a family name in the future. And so

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, in the Nut show in my

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Speaker 1: family would all say and done, it's my family and

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Speaker 1: it's really a lot less happening to do it football,

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Speaker 1: but influencing me and who I am, and obviously save

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Speaker 1: to Jesus Christ, that's it.

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Speaker 6: You off the hot seat?

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Speaker 1: How was that? Man? Man?

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Speaker 2: That wasn't even did you think we were.

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Speaker 3: Going to ask you to name the people on the

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Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore because it's like, oh Mount Rushmore, No, no, no, I.

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Speaker 1: Thought you was gonna say corners are receivers. I thought

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Speaker 1: you're gonna say corners are receivers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But that we didn't even hit you with the

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Speaker 4: double move you was good.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: But we might ask that question though, Yeah, that might

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Speaker 3: be a good one. If Mount Rushmore receivers or dbs

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Speaker 3: or lineman or linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Bet a be a good question. That'd be a really

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Speaker 1: good question, O nigga ahead. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate men still. Let Thomas take that well.

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Speaker 5: Man, Hey, thank you to all our viewers and listeners

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Speaker 5: out there where you always tuneing in. Give us a

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Speaker 5: five star rating of review. Click follow, leave a couple

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Speaker 5: them for you, and so uh appreciate that as always.

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Speaker 5: And also where you can now watch us now at

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Speaker 5: the NFL's YouTube channel or it make sure wherever you

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Speaker 5: pick up your iPad your podcast. That was iHeart radio

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Speaker 5: Apple podcast. Thank you for always tuning in. Tell a

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Speaker 5: friend to tell a friend to do what Peanut tell

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Speaker 5: a friends. Come check us out, man, Thank you man, Peanut,

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Speaker 5: get us out of here. Ryan, you're the best man.

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Speaker 4: Thank you man. Thank you so much more success than

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Speaker 4: your endeavor that going forward. We appreciate you. Blessing us.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, I'm peanut so trying. That's wrong. This is

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Speaker 6: the NFL Player's second XT podcast.

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Speaker 1: We out.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap