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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let's decide how this works on this show today,

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Speaker 1: but on fumes right now. Seaton and myself are on

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Speaker 1: fumes for different reasons. We're on fumes today. But we

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Speaker 1: had a great time, or so we were told last night.

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Speaker 1: But gangs all here are ready to go. On this Friday,

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Speaker 1: Brady Quinn will join us on loan from Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: We'll recap college football or get you ready for college

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Speaker 1: football recap last night with the Packers, Vince Vaughan, mister

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Speaker 1: Chicago himself. Vince will join us coming up a little

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Speaker 1: bit later on, and the former Bear wide receiver Tommy

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Speaker 1: Guaddle who worked for ESPN one thousand here in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: will stop by as well. Play of the Day, poll

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Speaker 1: question stat of the Day mclovin has the honors with

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Speaker 1: a poll question as well. Wonderful night last night. The

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Speaker 1: Danats got all dressed up. You would have been so

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Speaker 1: proud of them. But I will say that when we

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Speaker 1: got to the airport. If you've seen the movie Coming

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Speaker 1: to America where Eddie Murphy and our Senil Hall they

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Speaker 1: dress up, try to dress up as New Yorkers, well

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Speaker 1: set and I are at the airport and Todd comes

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Speaker 1: in and he's got everything Chicago on. He had his

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Speaker 1: Chicago Blackhawks hoodie on. You had a Chicago Cubs hat on.

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Speaker 1: All free stuff. By the way, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you had anything else Chicago related, Todd, but you walked

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Speaker 1: on the plane and everybody thought, boy, that guy's trying

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Speaker 1: really hard to act like he's from Chicago. I looked

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Speaker 1: like I just got off the boat, had the Cubs

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Speaker 1: had on the Blackhawk sweasher. If I had other Chicago

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Speaker 1: related stuff, I probably would have worn that as well.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, it's funny about events like last

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Speaker 1: night too, that when we go to them and you

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Speaker 1: meet all of these people, they're always like, wow, look

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Speaker 1: at you guys. You guys can clean up, And that's like,

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Speaker 1: how are we presenting ourselves on TV? Are we really

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Speaker 1: that sloppy that people are like, hey, look at you

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Speaker 1: got a tie on hopping guy? Yeah, forty three years old.

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Speaker 1: Seaton and I got to the airport and we looked

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Speaker 1: around for Todd and then they were starting to board,

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Speaker 1: and I go, is it a better story if Todd

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Speaker 1: makes it or does it make the flight? So we

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Speaker 1: were ready to get on and I didn't see Fritzie,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, oh my god, Todd is gonna miss

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Speaker 1: the flight to Chicago. That was I rooting for that? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was, yeah, right, honest, No, No, I thought, now

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Speaker 1: it's all about content. I thought it would have been

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Speaker 1: a better story there. You don't know me by that.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm sitting there like four hours before boarding. There's

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Speaker 1: no way to miss the fight, especially a night like last. Yeh.

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Speaker 1: But Seaton and I looked around. We didn't see you normally,

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Speaker 1: we can find you pretty easily normally. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until I was boarding the plane and I

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Speaker 1: saw this guy clearly going to Chicago. Based on the

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Speaker 1: way he's dressed. Todd looked like a guy who lost

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Speaker 1: all his clothing, went shopping at a gift shop at airport.

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Speaker 1: There's a Chicago blitz, Jersey. It was a great night

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Speaker 1: last night. My family surprised me. My children flew in.

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Speaker 1: Will Farrell, by the way, gave the introduction to my

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame speech, and this is what it sounded like.

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Speaker 1: Now we since we're not on TV today, just radio,

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Speaker 1: we'll post the video. You'll be able to see Will Ferrell.

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Speaker 1: But this is what it sounded last night before I

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Speaker 1: gave my Hall of Fame speech. Hi there, I am

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Speaker 1: extremely honored to speak on behalf of my dear, dear,

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Speaker 1: dear dear friend Dan Patrick as we commemorate his induction

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Speaker 1: into the Radio Hall of Fame. Dan, I'm so proud

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Speaker 1: of you. I told myself I wouldn't get emotional, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not, but I just know that when you, I

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Speaker 1: just know that when you started out in your business,

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Speaker 1: your one goal was to get into the Radio Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame and Gosh Darting, hold on, let me compose myself.

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Speaker 1: Gosh darted, you did it to him. It's the Radio

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and no one can ever take that

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Speaker 1: away from you. No one, and no one thought you

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Speaker 1: could do it. No, so many people would stop you

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Speaker 1: laughing last you Oh so embarrassed, pulled on one second.

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, so proudly congratulation Now, Will

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Speaker 1: when he does it for me. But he crushed it.

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Speaker 1: It was great and people there loved it that they

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Speaker 1: and he went one forty seven and I said, you

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Speaker 1: went one forty seven. He goes, I didn't have thirteen

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Speaker 1: Farrell who did a wonderful job with that Gastmi club. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was an unbelievable night. There were so many rounds

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Speaker 1: of applause, and there was a huge introduction to the

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Speaker 1: dan nets. Uh. Basically this is what happened last night.

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Speaker 1: Jack the intern would get a you know, a shout

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Speaker 1: out from somebody getting inducted, and the whole place would

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Speaker 1: go crazy with applause. Yeah. Then Todd Fritz seen O'Connor,

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Speaker 1: Paul passed and Andrew Pearloff for introduced and it is silent.

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Speaker 1: I heard a drop like tables away. I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: and I felt bad, but there was nothing I could do,

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Speaker 1: Like there was no applause sign where they would clap

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Speaker 1: you didn't clap. I looked nobody was copying. Me and

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Speaker 1: Todd were the only two people in the whole room

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Speaker 1: clapping for us. We had a clap for ourselves. We

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Speaker 1: started doing like a crowd. I know, I'm sorry. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think we think we're big, but we're not. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: because like Andrew said, like somebody else would be up there,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know, Kim Commando would be

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Speaker 1: like in Stacy posted everything the instagram, thank you so much?

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Speaker 1: Yeah please n then hey, all right, how about the danas?

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Speaker 1: And that's what it sounded like it This isn't being

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Speaker 1: you for the thunderservation. Then the whole table broke up.

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Speaker 1: but it kind of and I said, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd never be here without the Danas and you guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, you made radio fun again. And it sounded

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Speaker 1: just like that. Nobody said anything, did anything, Nobody applauded.

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Speaker 1: I felt bad. They would nuts you mentioned some program

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Speaker 1: director from thirty years ago dating and they're like yeah, Bill, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: classic rock that robs right. I know. Sorry, I'm sorry. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what the knight wasn't about us, Dan, it

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Speaker 1: was about you. It was completely yes, it was yes.

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Speaker 1: They were been deploying like call letters of stations, the

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Speaker 1: w p XO and Des Moines like they were getting

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Speaker 1: letter I know, Tallahassee's light Rock. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: Dennets had great seats. They were right up front so

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Speaker 1: It was like we had an understudy for Fritzie in

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Speaker 1: We were watching bits and pieces of the Packers and

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Speaker 1: Cardinals last night because the ceremony was going on if

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Speaker 1: watch on our phone, and I only saw at the

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Speaker 1: very end with the interception. But we'll recap that with

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Speaker 1: after the win last night. I was texting us some

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Speaker 1: and played really loose. When the Packers took a quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty draft, everybody thought that the franchise

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Speaker 1: They had receivers nobody had ever heard of except for

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Speaker 1: maybe their issues are gone. But for now the Packers

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Speaker 1: rolling Rodgers is happy. They have a good nine days

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Speaker 1: before they faced the Kansas City Chiefs. But that's a

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Speaker 1: big win. Last night. You don't have your two best receivers,

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Speaker 1: you beat an undefeated Cardinals team. Now it feels like

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Speaker 1: this is more about the Cardinals aren't who we thought

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Speaker 1: they were, instead of giving the Packers credit, because it's

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Speaker 1: not a good story if you give the Packers credit.

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Speaker 1: But you know, everybody has injuries. Cardinals had injuries. But

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Speaker 1: aj Green ran the wrong round. Now that's plain and simple.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened. Here is Kyler Murray on what happened

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Speaker 1: page and cost us, but you know, we'll be better

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Speaker 1: because of you know, I like what he said there

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Speaker 1: because aj Green clearly I think they checked at the

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury's college year as being a head coach where they've

426
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Speaker 1: gotten off to good start the Tech is Tech and

427
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Speaker 1: then started the fizzles the year went on, and I

428
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Speaker 1: think that's the concern, and that's the reservations that I've had,

429
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Speaker 1: is the ability to make those adjustments in the second

430
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Speaker 1: half the season to be able to be the team

431
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Speaker 1: that I think they're hoping they are at this point.

432
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Speaker 1: And now they're going to do that, presumably without JJ Watt,

433
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Speaker 1: who I think would have made a difference, you know,

434
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Speaker 1: in stopping the Packers rushing attack last night, and they've

435
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Speaker 1: got to do it with Cala Murray, who you know,

436
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: maybe he's got a banged up ankle injury. Now moving forward,

437
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: you know, DeAndre Hopkins is dealing with the hamstring injury.

438
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: Like the injuries aren't necessarily mounting up. It's just that

439
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: point the season where everyone's dealing with it and can

440
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: they sustained, can they overcome you know, dealing with that

441
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: because in past years that hasn't been the case. So

442
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: I think what we what we saw last night was

443
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 1: the Packers being the Packers with Aaron Rodgers. Even though

444
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: the odds are stacked against them, they still overcome. They

445
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: find ways of winning in a variety of ways. We've

446
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: known that about them for a while. It's just about

447
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: can they get back to another Super Bowl. For the Cardinals,

448
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: we're still asking the question, are they a playoff team?

449
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: Has Cliff Kingsbury at Steve times this, you know, this

450
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: team taken that next step and obviously last night was

451
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: not a step in that direction. How rough was this

452
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: past week for the Chiefs? It was rough? But at

453
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Speaker 1: the same time, you know, I think they're gonna be

454
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: able to just clean up some things and move forward.

455
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: I mean, defensively, they can't play much worse offensively, I

456
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: really do, truly, but they just can find ways of

457
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: not turning over the football. And it's not all on

458
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. You know, you saw plenty of issues with

459
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Speaker 1: their offensive line play last week. I mean that always

460
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: flies under the radar, but that group struggled mightily. I

461
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: mean there was constant pressure on Patrick Mahomes and it

462
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: gets to the point where he starts leaving clean pockets

463
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: because he's got that internal clock in his head thinking

464
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Speaker 1: that he needs to get outside the pockets to create something.

465
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Speaker 1: And this year, unfortunately, he hasn't been great what he

466
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Speaker 1: has left the pocket. So all those things are kind

467
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: of piling up on one another. I just think if

468
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: they can calm down, stop turning the football over. The

469
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: defense will eventually improved, and he can make the case

470
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Speaker 1: they improved a little bit last week. I mean, Dereck

471
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Speaker 1: Henry didn't have one hundred yards rushing, which I think

472
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Speaker 1: is an accomplishment nowadays in the NFL, given the streak

473
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Speaker 1: he's on. So I think if they could just you know,

474
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Speaker 1: make some subtle and little improvements along the way. This

475
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: is still like I'm if I'm there a sports book.

476
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the odds are for them to

477
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Speaker 1: win the NSC West. I'm still putting money on the Chiefs.

478
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: It's just hard to ever count that team out right now.

479
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: And it's a no win situation. On Monday Night, they're

480
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: supposed to beat the Giants. The question is by how much?

481
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Speaker 1: And you don't get style points in the NFL like

482
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: you do in college. But if this is a close game,

483
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: Giants somehow stay in it. You know, I think that

484
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: we're going to have, you know, those standalone games, Brady,

485
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: that's where everybody has an opinion about everybody or anybody,

486
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: and that might be one of those that even if

487
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs win, are they going to win ugly against

488
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: a team like the Giants, and it's a legitimate question.

489
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: But in the locker room right now, especially the way

490
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: the season's gone for the Chiefs, they could care less

491
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: by how much they win by. They could care less.

492
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just trying to get a win, right.

493
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: They've lost two of their last three, and they feel

494
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Speaker 1: like if they can get a win on Monday Night football,

495
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Speaker 1: Remember they've got to shore a week the following week

496
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Speaker 1: and they've got to take on the Green Bay Packers,

497
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: who will be well rested and and that's always gonna

498
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: be a tough battle. So they're just looking for a wind.

499
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: They're looking for a momentum. They're looking to make improvements,

500
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: and that's all they're focused on, you know what I mean.

501
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: And I know it's hard to believe that players and coaches,

502
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, actually have blinders on and they're not looking

503
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: ahead to the Green Bay game, because some people can

504
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: make this look like a trap game, right you hear

505
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: that phrase. Sometimes the Chiefs are in no position to

506
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: overlook anyone the way they've played the last few weeks.

507
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: So I think because of that, they'll find a way

508
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: of coming out in prime time, putting on a show

509
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: and then try to build some momentum on the shore,

510
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: we could take on the Packers. It appears as if

511
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is going to play this weekend against the Steelers.

512
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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I mean, we love the hero

513
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: and the guy who's injured, and he's going to try

514
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: to limp onto the field here or in this case,

515
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: with a bad shoulder. Is this smart? I mean, I

516
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: think if he feels like he can go out there

517
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: and play at a level higher than Case Keenum or

518
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff feels like he provides something more than

519
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: a healthy Case Keenan versus a less than one hundred

520
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: percent Baker Mayfield then show. But I think with probably

521
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: what he saw when Case Keenan went there on Thursday

522
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: Night Football a week ago, is you know, other people

523
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: can operate within the system and look pretty good. It's not,

524
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: like Kate said, like the world on fire. But Baker

525
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: hasn't done that either, And so given the circumstances of

526
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Speaker 1: where he's at with contract negotiations, given probably some of

527
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: the talk that's out there after that, I think he

528
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: wants to prove to the organization and team that he

529
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: can see this thing through and he can be the

530
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: quarterback that they're hoping he will be, and he can't

531
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: do that on the bench. So I think that has

532
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: to play a portion in his head and everything that's

533
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: going on away from the field and in those contract negotiations,

534
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: is he's got to be able to be out there

535
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: and prove it if he's going to get the contract,

536
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: if he desires You on Fox will have Michigan Michigan

537
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: State coming up this weekend. We haven't talked too much

538
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: about Jim Harball. You know, you know it's one of

539
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: those will wait till you show us this is a

540
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: big game. For how big is this game? For mission?

541
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: You can make the case this would be, you know,

542
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: maybe his first signature win since he's taking over a Michigan.

543
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he's facing an in state rival, one that

544
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: at times has gotten the best of him, and it

545
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: will be by far the toughest challenge this year. I mean,

546
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: they've only beat one team with a winning record and

547
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: that was Western Michigan, not even a Power five team.

548
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: So they've got to do that on the road in

549
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: a nasty environment. I mean, you and I have talked

550
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: about how nasty that environment is, and you know, I've

551
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: got extra security here in East Lansing walking around just

552
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: because of how nasty it is. And I don't think

553
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: many of the fans here at Michigan State appreciated me,

554
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: given some of their secrets away of how they go

555
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: about mooning their opponents. But I digress. Look, this would

556
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: be a signature win I think for Jim Harbaugh, and

557
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: really I think we're importantly building momentum towards like what

558
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: they need to be in the formula they need to

559
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: have in order to beat Ohio State, because that's look,

560
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: I know how High State lost Oregon in those teams

561
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: played right now, I think Ohio State wipes the math

562
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: with them. But even further from that, it's more about

563
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: like can you beat the champ? To beat the champ?

564
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State's the standard, and so Michigan still working towards

565
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: that right now. This would be a step in that direction. Yeah,

566
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: they've got Penn State in two weeks and then Ohio

567
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: State in four weeks. Speaking of Ohio State, big big

568
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: favorites against Penn State. Do you think James Franklin can

569
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: actually coach his way out of being a top candidate

570
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: for USC or LSU? Maybe at USC? And the reason

571
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: why I say that is because it's la. I mean,

572
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: they listen to every little thing the media says and does,

573
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: and they like the hot, flashy thing. And if he

574
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: starts to not be that, I do wonder if you know,

575
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: potentially that would lead them to look elsewhere. And you've

576
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: been an athletic director and Mike Bone who knows one

577
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: of the other hot names or coaches out there in

578
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle, who I would imagine, you know, since that

579
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: is going to go and defeated the rest of away

580
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: playing their schedule. They only got one ranked opponent left

581
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: and that's SMU. And so I think if you're looking

582
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: at USC, and if you look at the track record

583
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: of how they've got about hiring coaches, you know, I

584
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: think they've you know, kind of relied on either try

585
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: to be USC guys or they kind of want that

586
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: hot name, and the truth is that's not always what's

587
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: best for your program. So we'll see how this plays

588
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: out for James Franklin. That spreads big and I gotta

589
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: be outest with you. I think Penn State can keep

590
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: it close. I don't think they win this game, but

591
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: I think they can keep this thing close within that number.

592
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: But I do wonder what that'll do in the minds

593
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: of many of those you know, deep pocketed boosters out

594
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: there who are largely going to be helping to make

595
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: this decision at USC because because they seem to listen

596
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: to a lot of what's out there, more so than

597
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: maybe an LSU or somewhere else. Why do you think

598
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin was offended that his name was brought up?

599
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, Granted Carson Palmer said to me, sort of

600
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: a wild card name, but it was a wish list there.

601
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: But like to Land, took it as a flight. Why.

602
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been one of the most successful underrated

603
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: head coaches in the NFL over the past what fourteen

604
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: years he's been there. Now, I mean he is that

605
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: a losing season, He's won a Super Bowl. I mean,

606
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous when you think about it. And I

607
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: think it's even more ridiculous when you think about him

608
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: leaving the NFL level to go to Southern cow which

609
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: you know obviously needs a complete rebuild and you've got

610
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: to recruit, which is like a completely separate job as

611
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: it is, and he's not one of the better jobs

612
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: in professional sports, definitely in the NFL. With as patient

613
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: as that organization has been and as consistent as they've been,

614
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: They've had three head coaches in fifty years, why would

615
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: he leave that? I mean, I think there's a lot

616
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: of things besides his success and what he's been able

617
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: to accomplish there, the job that he's currently in, and

618
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: then kind of just thinking why does that make sense?

619
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's again. It's almost like, you

620
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are dating on these like

621
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: social media apps, right and and then so maybe there's

622
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people who like Mike Tomlin's profile, but

623
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: he's not liking a backer. He's not swiping right or

624
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: left or however that works. You know, he's good where

625
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: he's at, Like he doesn't he doesn't need he doesn't

626
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: need to go to Southern But but Brady, it's a

627
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: wish list. It's it's not like he was entertaining it

628
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: or reached out or third party. And it's not like

629
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: USC was reaching out. Carson Palmer just said, Hey, got

630
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot of names on there, and you know, a

631
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: wild card Mike Tomlin, and that's all like it's just hey,

632
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: we'd love to have Mike Tomlin and he should take

633
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: it as that you know, that's a compliment that they

634
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: knew they would want to have somebody at his stature. Yeah, well,

635
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: maybe he's he's that girl at the bar that you

636
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: go up and compliment. They don't want to hear it.

637
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: You know, they don't want that. They're not going to

638
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: take the compliment. You know that, I know that feeling

639
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: quite well, you don't I do? Okay? Yeah, I mean

640
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: do we need to go back to your University of

641
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Dayton days and talk about some of this? For me?

642
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 1: What else transpired there? Dude? I had no game whatsoever,

643
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: absolutely zero. So well I had a wish list. I

644
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: but you know, nobody had me on their wish list.

645
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. You have a lot more

646
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: game than the young men today, the generations zers that

647
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: are just texting. They can't even talked to someone. They'll

648
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: text across the room. I'm not sure what that's about,

649
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: but no, I could see your point of, you know,

650
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: maybe how he wanted to want about, you know, handling

651
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: it and saying that, yeah, it was a compliment. I

652
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: appreciate it, but I have no interest whatsoever. But I

653
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: think he's trying to bring to light the fact that like, hey,

654
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: his name should be mentioned more with the likes of

655
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: the great head coaches in the NFL in a you know,

656
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payne in it, Andy Reid, like he's got a

657
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: super Bowl. When Clay Hilton was fired, people ask Pete

658
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: Carroll he was interested in coming back to USC. So

659
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: but that makes sense, right because he had been there,

660
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: he had success there. I mean, we haven't seen bowl

661
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: he's a super Bowl winning head coach. Sure he didn't

662
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: get offended by it. Well, no, because he's been there before.

663
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, maybe he does want to take

664
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: that job out the ways of Seattle. But if we

665
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: haven't seen a head coach who went to the NFL,

666
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl or more for that matter, and

667
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: then went down to the college level again since what

668
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh and he took like a four year hiatus. Yeah,

669
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: so I just I just think it was really more

670
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: of a statement I think in my mind, and how

671
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: good of a coach Mike Tomlin's been and the fact

672
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: that hey, you're not asking these other great coaches in

673
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: the NFL if they want to go back to college,

674
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: you know in Andy Reid, Shampay and like I took

675
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: it him more as that, like, hey, like kind of

676
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: give my name out of your mouth for some of

677
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: these college jobs, Like that's beneath me. I'm one of

678
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: the best to do it. Like, I think you have

679
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: to admit, does he not have a Hall of Fame resume? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

680
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of famer right now. I

681
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: mean his his career mirrors Bill Kauer and Bill Koller

682
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: is a hall of famer. Hey, have fun this weekend.

683
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: Play nice by the way in East Lansing and you

684
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: can see Brady with the Fox Big Noon kickoff. It's

685
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: Michigan and Michigan sick. Yes, but just one of second

686
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: gratulations like getting inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. Man,

687
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: that's special stuff. You're my favorite. I'm not just saying

688
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: that because you have me on or or the show before. You.

689
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: Guys have always loved listening to you and learning from you.

690
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: So just you congratulations. You could have led the segment

691
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: with that. Brady didn't have to wait till the very end. No,

692
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: I forgot to wait because you know, at that point

693
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: I didn't want to like butter you up. I want

694
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: to try to get through the segment and then see

695
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: where it goes and then we can say it there

696
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: got in the closing remarks, you know, apology accepted, Brady,

697
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, Budd. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

698
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Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows

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Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio dot com and in the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for

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Speaker 1: Parker on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast. Let me bring in Vince Vaughan, Thank thank you,

709
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Will thank you? Is that acting, Vince or do you

710
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: think Will Ferrell really felt that way last night? Well,

711
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: I declare that he made it about you last night. Yeah,

712
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: it's sort of the focus for you that in that

713
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: streetch and he just really signed those hypings on you,

714
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: and and he actually would tilt his camera down and

715
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: then he splashed water on his eyes and then put

716
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 1: his camera back up on it to make it seem

717
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: like he was crying. So really emotional. Now, it could

718
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: have been real. There could have been round emotion there.

719
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Because it is a movie. It is a moving moment.

720
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: And I remember when the people did just people were

721
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: diving early on. When have you? When's the last time

722
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: you cried in a movie? The last time I cried

723
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: in the movie was that so Block ninety nine. I

724
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: think was the last time I cried in a movie?

725
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: The one I did was saller emotion that there was

726
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: some emotion that ran deep dim. I have got a

727
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: little bit of emotion, but not full crying in the

728
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: Freaky movie. Uh, the horror comedy that I did, there's

729
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: a touch of emotion. I don't know there was a

730
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: full on cry, but Ball would have been the last one.

731
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: And how about you? When was the last time on

732
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: year that the moment of honorability struck? Uh? It's been

733
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: a little while, but it happens a lot more often

734
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: than you would probably think. I'm I'm horrible. I get

735
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: you know. It's one of those where you get to

736
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: a point and then there's no turning back, and then

737
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: you just I just let it go. So it's happened

738
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and usually for you know, stupid reasons.

739
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's a compliment. I don't. I don't.

740
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: I think sometimes that's a that's appropriate and that's a

741
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: nice thing. You don't go. I don't think they're an

742
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: alcohol of fame unless you can access that through anyone's voluability.

743
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Is there is there a hoo.

744
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: I think you've got to be able to be president

745
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: at the moment. How much last night? Did you have fun? Yeah?

746
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: But I almost cried twice. What's good your emotion. It's

747
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: been a long journey, and that's a nice compliment to

748
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: be awarded and to be thought of that way. I

749
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: think it's the first of many hall of fames that

750
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: are coming for you. Is there a hall of fame

751
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: for actors? Well, they have a museum, but the Academy

752
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: I'll put up a museum recently. But I don't think

753
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: that there's a hall of fame as such. I mean

754
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: there's awards and things like that, but no, there's no

755
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: there's no hall of fame. But there's a hall of

756
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: fame for Eastern Kentucky basketball I going into that one. No, no, no,

757
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: not at all. I got no shot. You were probably

758
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: a better actor in Rudy than I was a basketball

759
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: player at Eastern Kentucky. Well that's a high bar. I mean, yes,

760
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: Rudy was. That's a couple went. So if that's what

761
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: you want to measure yourself against, and I guess that

762
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: makes sense because that's why you're a Hall of Famer.

763
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: You hold yourself to the platinum standard. It Did you

764
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: keep anything from that movie? Your letterman jacket from Rudy?

765
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not great at picking up keeping stuff.

766
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: As I got older, I kept some things, but I

767
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: don't think I kept anything from that. I did not

768
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: keep the letterman jacket. No, But you know, it was

769
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: an amazing one. One of the great things I remember

770
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: from Rudy was they led us on the sideline for

771
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: that great game. It was the last time that Notre

772
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: Dame played Penn State and Paterno and Notre Dame scored

773
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: and then they went for a two point conversion. Lou

774
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: Holtz was the coach, and they got and they went ahead,

775
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: and then there was a fifteen year oard penalty because

776
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: the film people ran out on the field with excitement.

777
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: A lot of the film people like, we're on the field.

778
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: He stepped on the field like no understanding of how

779
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: at all was but just felt the excitement in the

780
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: stadium A lot of the film people did. And there

781
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: was a fifteen they had almost cost the outcome of

782
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: that pivotal last last rivalry between those two teams, and

783
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: that was my thing that I took. That's what I

784
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: took with me nineteen ninety three. And yeah, you were

785
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: right around then. That's right, very good. But dud, did

786
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: you have any idea that that movie was going to

787
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: be anything? I mean, not that you had status at

788
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: that point, but still like are you looking around going

789
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: is anybody are you going to believe this or buy

790
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: into this? You know, it was so crazy because the

791
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: director in the writer were the people that didn't get

792
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: the Hoosiers. And I was a fan of that movie,

793
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: so I think that gave you a certain level of

794
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: confidence that this was a uh you know, that they

795
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: were quality and it was. That was a great sports movie,

796
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: but it was it was a strange story. You know,

797
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: it was an odd story to be telling. Um, But

798
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that you really evaluate at that point,

799
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: for me, I was so young and just happy to

800
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: be in a movie and doing stuff and working. I

801
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: wasn't really handicapping how how well it would necessarily do

802
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: as much as we were. I was just sort of

803
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: thrilled to be participating in it it. Now that the Cubs

804
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: have won the World Series? Is your is your being

805
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, a you know Chicago U sports fan? Is

806
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: it is it over for you as far as your

807
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: fandom because you've had your Bears and you had the

808
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: Black Honks, you had the Bulls, Cubs win, White Sox

809
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: have won. It's over right, Well, I mean it definitely

810
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: makes it. It's nice that had happened. You know, that

811
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: was of all of them, that was the longest and

812
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: the most you know, questionable. But I think the fun

813
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: thing with the Chicago sports outside of the Bowls a

814
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: little bit. The black Hawks with the three in a

815
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: row was for sure, But those eighty five Bears and

816
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: the personality of them and the way that they did

817
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: it was such an impact. We didn't go on to

818
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: win four or three or two. There could have been

819
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: a dynasty there. I mean, there was such great players involved.

820
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: We did go to a bunch of NFC a couple

821
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: of NFC championships after that, but that team was so

822
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: spectacular and when you're younger and that's your childhood team,

823
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: you just couldn't ask for a more exciting group of personalities,

824
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: more dominant, just unbelievable storyline. So you no, I'd love

825
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: to see if the Bears continue to win, but that

826
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: was such a unique Super Bowl. You know, that one

827
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: team was so pactful, and now, of course the dynasty

828
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: which we have with the Bulls, you know, you still

829
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: talk about that. That's still a measuring stick and I

830
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: like how Jordan sort of made that the measuring stick,

831
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: that record versus the conversation being him in an era

832
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: and how do you compare people from era to era.

833
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: But that that record and that team, you know, that

834
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: was threatened obviously by Golden State, who lost to Lebron,

835
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: but that that became when he said, I know the

836
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: best team of all time. So there's been you know those,

837
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: those those are unbelievable teams. To cheer for it, but

838
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I think you always want to see the team succeed

839
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: and to win. But it definitely, especially with the cub

840
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: Is finally doing it. It was almost like you couldn't

841
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: believe that it was happening. Do the Bears anger? You?

842
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: Are they hurt? Yet? I think as a kid, you

843
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: are angered by it, you know. You you know, Buddy

844
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: leaves those two together, they were terrific, and Buddy leaves

845
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: the organization, and then, you know, we lost a lot

846
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: of the guys that were there. Richard Dent went on

847
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: to San Francisco Leslie Fraser, who's a terrific coach now,

848
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: but it was a free safety. He was an All

849
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: Pro that year. He heard his at mee in the

850
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl in the game that was obviously

851
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: out of hand. But we just didn't hold on to

852
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: the personnel, you know, we didn't. It felt like it

853
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: was there. Then we just didn't hold on. We were

854
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: close a couple of times afterwards. But you would have

855
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: loved to seeing Buddy stay, you know, for another year

856
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: or two and hold on to a lot of those

857
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: guys and make a run. They had the pieces to

858
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: do it. You know. It's funny you look at you

859
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: look at Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys, and you know

860
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: just what a heck of a team they had. And

861
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: then Jimmy goes on to Florida to the Dolphins, and yeah,

862
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: they went another one in Dallas with Switzer, who you

863
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: know gets canted for that obviously, and with great college

864
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: coach as well. But you know, I wonder how much

865
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: we felt, well him and Jerry got to a point

866
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: where they couldn't work together. I wonder how much he felt,

867
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll just go do this again in Miami, not realizing

868
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: just how challenging that is. And he got to the

869
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: playoffs in Miami. He did well. But I wonder what

870
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: that Cowboys team could have done if they would have

871
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: been able to stay together. And I mean, could that

872
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: have been like what the Patriots are today if they

873
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: would have stayed together? You know, I think the beard

874
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: when you look at it, and Buddy was a terrific

875
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: coach who wanted his chance. I don't know that they

876
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: all of them at that time. I think, like any success,

877
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: they probably all felt that they contributed a lot and

878
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: could replicate it. He's Vince vonn actor filmmaker joining us

879
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Stan Patrick show, were you up for the Chandler being

880
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: a role on Friends? You know? It's funny. I really

881
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: wasn't anymore than the young actor was. I think that

882
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: show became so famous. When you were a kid, you

883
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: got a call for an audition, you were thrilled. So

884
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: I think I went to an early audition that I

885
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: don't believe I made it past the casting director on that.

886
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: So yes, I think I remember vaguely reading for it,

887
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: but it was nothing that was serious or close. But

888
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: years later they always talk about different actors that were

889
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: considered for different parts and that one gets blought up.

890
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: But but no, not. I mean, I believe I did

891
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: audition for it, but it was one of those you know,

892
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: early things, and no one knew why I was and

893
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: nothing that was that was down at a wire and

894
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: why everybody we always want a sequel, and sequels to

895
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: me or dangerous, especially when it's comedies like Old School.

896
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: How often are you asked about you're going to do

897
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: a sequel to Old School? Yeah? I think, yeah, we've

898
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: been asked about that one. Crashers, we we've talked about

899
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: it and we're close. But you know, the one thing

900
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: I'll say is sometimes a movie works and then they

901
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: think that the economics are there and they kind of

902
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: throw together another one because you know, why not. But

903
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: they do that more than have an original story for it,

904
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: so you know, we did. There was a good script

905
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: to Old School that Todd had developed years ago that

906
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: but just the timing wasn't right at that time. Was

907
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: my timing wasn't good, And then later on Todd was

908
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: timing wasn't good. So it's nice, I think if people

909
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: remember the movie finally, but it's always good if you

910
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: have an idea that stands on its own that really

911
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense versus just rushing into it. Especially comedies.

912
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: If you look, Dan, I challenge you with there's not

913
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: many great comedy sequels. What would you would what would

914
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: you suggest as a great sequel to comedies? Could you name?

915
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Could you name three? Well? Of course the movies. I

916
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: was in Grown Ups and Grown Ups too with Adam Sandler.

917
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: You know obviously that comes. Yeah, yeah, the Sam Man,

918
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: The Sam Man, definitely, Uh, Christmas Vacation. Yeah, that's a

919
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: great one. In fact, to get a few out of those, right,

920
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: there's a couple that work. So wait, Wedding Crashers two

921
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: is in play. Wedding Crashers two is coming to a

922
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: theater talking about it. The timing didn't work out this time.

923
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: We were actually going to maybe shoot it this year

924
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: and the su link just didn't work out. But um yeah,

925
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: that one has come close a few times. It may

926
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: it may end up landing at some point. All right,

927
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of interesting. There better better stories come

928
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: from old school or wedding crashers from the side. Yeah,

929
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: both they both had good stories. Like what for fun?

930
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: Like would anything now behind the scenes? Anything behind the scenes? Yeah,

931
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: um well I remember I had it. I went to

932
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: the house when I was uh in Maryland in the

933
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: on the Eastern Shore. We were outside of DC filming

934
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: lenning crashers, and um, we would have I would have

935
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: some of the castle and people would hang out on

936
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: the weekends and that sort of thing. And Christopher came walking,

937
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: came to hang out, and he was lovely. I really

938
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: enjoyed Walking. And he played the father um in the

939
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: movie and Para O'Donnell, who I liked quite a bactor.

940
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: He played the brother Todd in the movie. And two

941
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: things I remember is one like as a bonding thing,

942
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: he would he would he had a car and the

943
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: driver he would go to to Care and ask him

944
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: if he would like a ride to the set until

945
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Care would oblige and they would sit in a car

946
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't really talk. He would just sit in

947
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: the car with Karre. They'd sit in the back and

948
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: the driver would drive them to the set and back

949
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: front of the set and Kara would sit with him,

950
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't really have a conversation. And Walkin believed

951
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: this to be probably some good preparation for the scenes

952
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: as father and son, that there's some sort of connection

953
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: but not comfortable. But Walkin would come. Walkin came to

954
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: the house and I just remember there was jet skis

955
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: and people were jet skiing and it was fun and

956
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: I was encouraging Chris to participate, but he didn't swim.

957
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: He wasn't a swimmer, and so we put a life

958
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: jacket on him and we put him on a jet

959
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: ski and from behind and he was holding holding someone

960
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: on a jet ski to take him out, and I

961
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: just remember him pulling away, continuing to let us know,

962
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: as if we hadn't heard him or it needed to

963
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: be set again, that he just can't swim. It was

964
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: almost like that old dust and Els kit with the

965
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 1: synchronized swimming with a I think it was Martin Short

966
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: kept saying I'm a strong swimmer, and he just continued

967
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: to say, I don't swim, like a lot of different ways.

968
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: I can't swim. I'm not a swimmer. I don't swim.

969
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Let's just set up several eight times as he was

970
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: on the back, and they were getting like, that's fine,

971
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: you know, because you're you have a life jacket on

972
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: and you don't need to swim. You're gonna be okay,

973
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Well he's not going to go that fast. Okay, but

974
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't swim. I understand, I understand you

975
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: don't swim. And so they took him out and he

976
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: twirled around holding the waist as he was kind of

977
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: given a nice cruise and he came back safely without

978
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: a spill. So all was, well, when do you love

979
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: to have video? Then I have it in my head.

980
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: I guess it was just it was just his hair

981
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: was immaculate. He just got immaculate hair. He looked terrific.

982
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: He's a really funny guy, perfect guy. But I just

983
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: remember that was so interesting to me that he made

984
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: the decision to go on the back at the jet

985
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: ski was it was quite a convincing and for some

986
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: reason it became important he wasn't sure, and it became

987
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: important to all involved that he that he enjoyed the

988
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: afternoon as a passenger on a jet ski and eventually

989
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: the pros added up and he agreed somehow the skill

990
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: chips and Chris and he decided that that would be

991
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: a nice, a nice option, albeit making everyone, you know,

992
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: perfectly aware that swimming was something that would not be possible.

993
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: It was called a put um. I my guys told

994
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: me about North Hollywood and h you're the dad, like

995
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: you're playing dad roles, and my guys really liked it.

996
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: I liked that director Mikey Alfred. I was not a

997
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: skateboarder growing up, and I grew up like yourself in

998
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: the Midwest. It was so I'm called the skateboarding wasn't popular.

999
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: But some director came to me with this movie and

1000
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: sort of about his growing up. He was a skateboarder

1001
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: growing up, and he's got a haul. There's a whole

1002
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: thing with it, and he's terrific as I'm as Mikey

1003
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: eutphit and I just really liked him, and I'm really

1004
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: glad that I did the movie. But I like him

1005
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 1: quite a bit, and it was, you know, it's nice

1006
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: to see on filmmakers with a story that are wanting

1007
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 1: to tell a story sort of how we started at

1008
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: a younger age with Swinger. So I always am excited

1009
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: for people that are you know, write something, that are

1010
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: young and wanted to get something made and have that

1011
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: sort of drive. And you know, he had done a

1012
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: lot of different things, you know, starting with doing skateboarder

1013
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: videos and things of that nature. So he's a very

1014
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: talented Toronemacher, it's great to talk to you. Hopefully well

1015
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: we'll cross a path soon, but thanks again for joining us.

1016
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: Vince Well, congratulations, I'm happy for you, and then enjoy Chicago.

1017
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bud Buck, you soon, Hall of Famer. Be well, righty.

1018
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

1019
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Easter six am

1020
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio wapp.

1021
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: Tom Waddle's here, the former Bears wide receiver and he's

1022
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: a co host of Waddle and Sylvia on ESPN one

1023
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: thousand here in Chicago. If somebody described your personality as

1024
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: like a suction, excuse me exactly? What? Yeah? Todd read

1025
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: read the first line, and I say no. When Paul

1026
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: are Todd reached out to me and say hey, can

1027
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: you come into this morning say no? You could have

1028
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: said no. Okay, so Todd read it to waddle here.

1029
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: Your engaging personality is like suction, I continues, so he

1030
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: can hear the full limmer. So tonight we make a production.

1031
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: You've conquered the medium with zest. Your mic now stands

1032
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: with the all time best. Congratulations on Radio Hall of

1033
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: Fame induction. Okay, well, first of all, congratulation, very very

1034
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: very well deserved. It's it's overdue, by the way as well.

1035
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, thank you read me the first line again.

1036
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: Your engaging personality is like suction. Okay. So like I'm

1037
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: assuming that means that you're I don't know, you're drawing

1038
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: out my laughter, my appreciation, the listeners, the viewers. They're

1039
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: drawn to Yeah, and Patrick and they and once they're

1040
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: joined him there stuck, they want to just stay with

1041
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: him and follow him and tune into him forever, is

1042
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: what it's meant to be. I'm thinking toilet problems. To

1043
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you, when you say that, I'm thinking,

1044
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: like I got a backed up toilet or some pomp.

1045
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: I got some issues. I could see that now. It

1046
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: wasn't cool. Todd did that you've got a personality like

1047
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: a plunger. I can't believe how you guys, including mister

1048
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: wattles with Okay, okay, you got to thirty five minutes

1049
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: write another all right, all right, and you went into

1050
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: the Chicago Sports Hall of Fame last night. You know

1051
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: that's that's somebody with a roll of dex is just

1052
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: spinning it, you know, and like, no next. I retired

1053
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: in ninety five. Do you think they went all the

1054
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: way through the alphabet and not to W and they

1055
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: got battle. I don't if they went through the alphabet.

1056
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: I just think they went through a list of people

1057
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: that were worthy of the honor and they got to

1058
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: me when everyone else said no. So it's Curtis Conway

1059
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: not available. I don't think he was. No, Curtis Granderson

1060
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: was there, though I was in good company. AJ Prazynski

1061
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: was there. I mean, Kennis Parker was honored ned Colletti

1062
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: from the Dodgers and it's me. Okay, so that tells

1063
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: you know a funny story about the Measley six years

1064
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: I played in the NFL and was on the practice

1065
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: squad for two of those. Wait wait, wait, you got

1066
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: into the Chicago Hall of Fame Chicago sports Land Hall

1067
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: of Fame or Chicagoland Sports Hall of Fame and you

1068
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: only played four years six No, you were on a

1069
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: roster for Kay well technically still in the NFL. Damn Okay,

1070
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: two years on the practice four years you go into

1071
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: the Chicago sports Land Hall of Fame. I'll leave right now.

1072
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: I gotta believe that it has to be you know

1073
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: your radio host as well. Yeah, I had the very

1074
00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: popular I had the opportunity to segue from a league

1075
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: NFL career into twenty five plus years doing this awesome. No,

1076
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: your your NFL highlight, though, if you were gonna describe

1077
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: it to the audience that maybe didn't get to see

1078
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: those Chicago Bears one game or one incident, one moment,

1079
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: like the moment where you go yep in nineteen ninety

1080
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: one opening game against the Minnesota Vikings. Like, I had

1081
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: toiled on the practice squad for two years, my first

1082
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: two years, and by toiled, I mean I practiced every

1083
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: day against and with my teammates. They beat the crap

1084
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: out of me. They played on Sunday and I was

1085
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: in street clothes. That's that was life on the practice squad. Finally,

1086
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one. I got an opportunity to play,

1087
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: not because diff Kat trusted me, but because we didn't

1088
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: have any healthy bodies. So opening game of the season

1089
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: against the Vikings, and this is a true story. As

1090
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: part of the story told last night. You know that game,

1091
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: I really wasn't supposed to play. The only reason I

1092
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: was in uniform is because we only had three three

1093
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: healthy receivers. And then another guy got hurt. So like

1094
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: halfway through the first quarter, I heard this screech difcas

1095
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: like wattle and I come running over. I'm like, oh, hell,

1096
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: he caught me. I wasn't paying attention. And I go, yes, Coach,

1097
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: he goes, this is a true story. He goes, you

1098
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: gotta go in And I looked at him and I

1099
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: swear to you, Dan, I said why, And he says,

1100
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: because Anthony Morgan's coming off the field. I don't have

1101
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: anybody else. Get out there, and don't try to jump

1102
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: too high or run too fast or do anything athletic,

1103
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: because you can't do any of that stuff. Don't screw up.

1104
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: And like I'm running out on the field looking back

1105
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: at him, like what was that great motivation? Yeah? And

1106
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: I think one of the first plays I was in

1107
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: on and I walked into the huddle and Jim Harbaugh

1108
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: was my quarterback. And Jim and I, you know, he

1109
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: believed in me because he saw what I was doing

1110
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: in you know, practice the first two years, and I

1111
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: thought we had a good rapport. And I think when

1112
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: Jim saw me coming in the huddle, he was like,

1113
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And I think we had

1114
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: like a third Nate and I converted, you know, and

1115
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: Todd Scott, who was a cornerback for the Vikings who

1116
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: subsequently very shortly after that was moved from corner to safety,

1117
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: was standing over me just saying things like I was.

1118
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: I was blushing. I was like, I'd never heard things

1119
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: like this and was just berating me. And I slipped

1120
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: him in and I converted a third and eight to

1121
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: a first down. And then later I would say the

1122
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: most defining moment of my career. At the end of

1123
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: the first half, we ran a I mean, with the

1124
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: receivers we had, I don't know why the call was

1125
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: at well, we ran an all go route and Jim

1126
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: Harball hit me on a thirty seven yard touchdown pass

1127
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: I'd landed, bounced into the end zone, touchdown and this

1128
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: is funny too. What I my guys are coming over

1129
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: to celebrate with me, and this is the greatest moment

1130
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: of my life. I mean, I'd done nothing in the

1131
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: NFL until really this moment. I kind of puked a

1132
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: little bit on my face mask because when I landed

1133
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: on my elbows went into my stomach. So this is

1134
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: like the greatest moment of my football career at any

1135
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: at any stage. And I got a little vomit on

1136
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: my face mask, and everyone's like coming over to hug

1137
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: me and then running for the sideline because I smelled

1138
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: like barf. But that was it, you know, and then

1139
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: that kind of was the springboard for what ended up

1140
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: being a you know, a mediocre six year career. Listen,

1141
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: I am fiercely proud of what I was able to do.

1142
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: I you know, I was too small. I ran a

1143
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: four seven nine in a four a two forty yard

1144
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: dash at the Indianapolis Combine. You know, I think it

1145
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: was like the fifth leading receiver in college football. My

1146
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: senior year. I went on draft in twelve rounds. Runs

1147
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: a faster, absolutely, so that was probably the defining moment.

1148
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: But you know, I had a in the at the

1149
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: end of the ninety one season. We played in the

1150
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: posts that we played in the postseason against the Cowboys

1151
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: and lost. But I had like nine catches for one

1152
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 1: hundred and some yards in a touchdown. I got knocked

1153
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: out in that game twice. I spent the night in

1154
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: the hospital that night because of a concussion. So I

1155
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: don't even remember. This is the funny part. Did you

1156
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: have two concussions? Oh, I had many concussions in the

1157
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: same game. I hit my head early in the game

1158
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: and was kind of out of it, and then I

1159
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: had one later when it was Billy Bates, remember Billy

1160
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: Bates Tennessee, and he was the Cowboys safety, and I

1161
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: ran a little in rout and he hit me and

1162
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: I was just like blacked out. But then I went

1163
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: back in because in those days, this is ninety one,

1164
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: like this was the test. How many fingers am I

1165
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: holding up? And if you could get within two, Like

1166
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: if you he held up four and you said two,

1167
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: you're in. Like if he held up four and you

1168
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: said one, you had a sit. Like if you could

1169
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: get within two of the right answer, you went in.

1170
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: I went back in. I don't remember. I only had

1171
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns in my career, I had ten counting the

1172
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: one and against Dallas in the playoffs, but I don't

1173
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: even remember it. I don't even remember it. So that's

1174
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: the extent of my career, and that's how you get

1175
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: into the Chicago when Sports All of Fame. Everyone else

1176
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: says no, Tom says yes. I wanted to ask you,

1177
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 1: being a former wide receiver with aj Green last night

1178
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: with that play where you get to the line of

1179
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: scrimmage and it felt like heire missed the check the

1180
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: audible or like, how does that go wrong in a

1181
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: moment like that? Well, I can't. You know obviously that

1182
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: that's a situation where Aj Green's new to the team

1183
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: and I know we're in week seven or week eight,

1184
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: so that should all be cleaned up. But yeah, that's

1185
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: an inexcusable mistake that is made between quarterback and wide receiver.

1186
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: And my assumption would be it was more Aj Green

1187
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: than it was Kyler Murray. So you know, every one

1188
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: of these plays is important, especially at that moment. So

1189
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: AJ Green obviously because he looked like he was blocking,

1190
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was doing. Yes, but I wonder,

1191
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: though you get to the line of scrimmage, is it

1192
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: a look, is it a hand signal? You have to

1193
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: come out of the huddle with the thought that it's

1194
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: at least a possibility that he's coming to you, and

1195
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: to think that you know, he wasn't running all right,

1196
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: It's not like he ran a slant and they were

1197
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: looking to throw a back shoulder fade. I don't know

1198
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: what was going on. It was. I just don't know

1199
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: how you break the huddle and not know that it's pass.

1200
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, it's it's one of those, Yeah,

1201
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: I would. I tend to focus on what the Packers did,

1202
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: and my goodness, I mean, that's such a sign of

1203
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: good coaching. And I know he's got Aaron Rodgers, which

1204
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: makes Matt Lafore's job so easy. But you're without your

1205
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: top three receivers, you're without bokdr you're without your starting center. Defensively,

1206
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: you're without two of your your cornerbacks, you're without Zadarius Smith,

1207
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: your pass rusher. And you find a way to make

1208
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: the adjustments that are necessary to go on the road

1209
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: on a short week and beat a team that's seven

1210
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: and zero. It's a tip of the cap to that

1211
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: entire organization. I keep saying if why would Aaron Rodgers

1212
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: want to leave this division? Because you've got Detroit there's two,

1213
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: you got the Bears, there's two. You probably split with

1214
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: the Vikings, so you got five wins right away, and like,

1215
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: why would he want to leave to go to another division?

1216
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: I would think that, and I've started to believe that

1217
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: that it's more likely that there's a chance he's here

1218
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two as well. I mean, I know

1219
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: his contract I believe with the Packers goes through twenty

1220
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: twenty two. I'm with you, I don't And I think

1221
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: that finally, maybe what he's wanted to see, he's starting

1222
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: to see. I think the input is there. You're starting

1223
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: to see them, whether it's Randall Cobb or Whitney Merciless

1224
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: as I think it was just added to the roster.

1225
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: I think they're listening to him, and I think they should.

1226
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't think Aaron Rodgers should had final say,

1227
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: but when you have one of the top five quarterbacks

1228
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: in the history of the game and he has thoughts,

1229
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: he should listen to him. Yeah, but this is what

1230
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: I when. First of all, you've got to be careful

1231
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 1: giving them too much, no doubt, because if I say

1232
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: to you, I'm gonna let you weigh in on personnel decisions.

1233
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: You want to bring in Randall Cobb. I want you

1234
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: to tell that receiver right there, who's going to lose

1235
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: his job. That's part of my job in management. I'm

1236
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna bring in somebody. You go tell that guy he's

1237
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: just got cut. Something tells me Aaron would have no

1238
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: problem with that personality. He's ruthless. Yeah, he's ruthless. But

1239
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: do you listen. I think it's a fine line, like

1240
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give anybody final say on personnel decisions as

1241
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: a player, I'm just saying the voice should be heard.

1242
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: And obviously he didn't feel like his voice was being

1243
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: was being heard. So again, he's got a job. He

1244
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 1: does it as well as anybody I've I've ever seen,

1245
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: maybe outside of Brady and a few others. But yeah,

1246
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: I think his voice is heard, but I don't think

1247
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: you give him final say. But again, going back to

1248
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: the thought that, and this pains me to say, as

1249
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: a Bears fan and somebody who loves the team, I

1250
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: don't want to see him anymore. Like when he taunted

1251
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: the fans that taunted him. First my thought was I'm

1252
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: not mad at you man. You You're right, you have

1253
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: owned us. And I've always said if a fan is

1254
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: booing a player and the player boos back, you know,

1255
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: don't get red asked at the player. I mean, he

1256
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: has every right to boo you back. So why why

1257
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: why were people upset that? Like if people are flipping

1258
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: off Rogers, I could I own you. I still own you, Okay,

1259
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't need to say it, but because

1260
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: it's obvious, but it was a pretty cool moment. Though

1261
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: that's a that's a very benign taunt. From my perspective.

1262
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: It really is like he could have done some other

1263
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: things that he didn't do. I wasn't mad at him,

1264
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: you know. Look, I'm mad at my own organization. Like

1265
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm mad that we don't compete consistently with the Green

1266
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. I'm mad that they go from Brett Farve

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers. And I swear to you, Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: is going to be great. I swear to you that.

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Speaker 1: Like I've never seen the kid take a snap in practice.

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Speaker 1: You can't sell me on him being crappy because I'm

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Speaker 1: just scarred. Unless he went to the Bears, then he'd

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be good. Okay, what's the what's the level

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Speaker 1: of morale with Justin Fields? I think everybody's still very

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Speaker 1: excited and hopeful. Um, I mean, this is this is

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Speaker 1: a this is a failure of epic proportions in terms

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Speaker 1: of what's going on with their offense, Like their average

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Speaker 1: in two hundred and fifty four yards overall, in one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four passing yards and fourteen point four

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Speaker 1: points per game on offense. You have to try to

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Speaker 1: be that bad in twenty one in the NFL. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to be that bad. You know, it's alumni

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Speaker 1: weekend here for all the Bears people, so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the front office and everyone else will be happy that

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the flamethrower out. I'm hitting everybody with it now.

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Speaker 1: But the general manager has been there for seven years

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Speaker 1: and he's neglected the offensive line for the most part.

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Speaker 1: The coach has been here for four years and was

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Speaker 1: brought here to revolutionize the offense and develop quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 1: they've ranked bottom five pretty much in every meaningful statistical

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Speaker 1: category on offense. Did they draft Justin Fields to save

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Speaker 1: their jobs? This is what's so twisted to me. I

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Speaker 1: think if you have any doubt, if you're the ownership,

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Speaker 1: you don't give these guys a second opportunity, Like and

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Speaker 1: you knew that they were going to focus on a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But if you have any doubts about whether or not

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Speaker 1: the coach can develop a quarterback and the GM can

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Speaker 1: identify one, why are you giving them a second opportunity here?

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Speaker 1: And that's why I've always felt like there was more

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Speaker 1: job security with both the GM and the and the

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Speaker 1: coach than everyone else thought. I don't know why you

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Speaker 1: would give the same group that has proven to you

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Speaker 1: in the past that they weren't able to do what

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Speaker 1: they were hired to do and you've given them another opportunity.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt there is job security that's attached with

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. Problem now is is that you haven't

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Speaker 1: been able to protect him. The scheme is you know,

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Speaker 1: they finally modified the scheme what they did to that

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Speaker 1: kid in Cleveland in week three. They threw him down

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Speaker 1: a flight of steps. With what they were trying to do.

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Speaker 1: They had five man protections trying to keep Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: and Jadavian Clowney and others away from him. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was criminal. Now they made some adjustments, but they

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Speaker 1: can't protect him. And he's a kid that I think

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Speaker 1: he's tremendously talented. But he's coming from a system in

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Speaker 1: Ohio State where he dropped seven steps. He'd sit back

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Speaker 1: in the pocket and he'd wait for his receivers to

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Speaker 1: develop and routes down the field like it takes four

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Speaker 1: or five seconds for that to happen. Then he dropped

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Speaker 1: dimes on guys. You don't have four or five seconds

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Speaker 1: in the NF. You've got to throw people open, you do.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's something that I think he's he's learning

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Speaker 1: to do. And now with the problem here in Chicago

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Speaker 1: is they're forced to run a you know, a quick

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Speaker 1: passing game because they can't protect. Like second play of

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Speaker 1: the game they had against the box, they had like

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Speaker 1: an eight man protection. They get eight guys the block.

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Speaker 1: Five he got sacked in two seconds, Like how does

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Speaker 1: that happen? Like? But then he's also got to learn

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Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball and read things and

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Speaker 1: as you say, throw some you know, he's got to

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Speaker 1: make throws with anticipation. He's just at this point they're

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Speaker 1: fighting against different things. I don't know how they you know,

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Speaker 1: they fix this short term. I still think the kid

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Speaker 1: can be a dynamic quarterback, but right now there's so

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Speaker 1: many things working against them offensively. I find it interesting

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Speaker 1: the criticism of Patrick Mahomes as if he forgot how

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Speaker 1: to play football. But it almost feels like he needs

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Speaker 1: to change his approach to what he does because he's not.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like he's too confident, Like he shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: this confident. He should be a little more cautious in

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Speaker 1: what he is trying to accomplish. Tyreek Hill's not going

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Speaker 1: to beat somebody deep with these defenses, right Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kelsey is gonna be you know, kept in check the

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Speaker 1: best part. But you've got to keep scoring because that

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Speaker 1: defense is so bad. It's almost as if if if

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Speaker 1: he could have maybe some bald control drives keep the

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Speaker 1: defense off the field. Yeah, and you know, maybe your

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Speaker 1: best defense is your offense. They're not trying to outscore people,

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Speaker 1: but maybe taking time off the clocks, so your defense

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Speaker 1: when they are on the field. Maybe he's a little fresher. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. And listen, um, Andy Reid, if you're listening

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Speaker 1: right now, if you've grown tired of Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are tired of some of the turnovers. Call

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Speaker 1: me like I can, Bear's gonna have him, you know,

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Speaker 1: like Dan stopped. I know that that's that's infuriating as well.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I think he has been so great.

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Speaker 1: And Andy Reid is here. Oh there's Andy. Andy. Would

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Speaker 1: you like to trading what's taking? Stop asking him to

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Speaker 1: throw fifty times a game behind a porous offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Buy some defense? Yeah, no, anyway, But like, the one

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Speaker 1: criticism I would have is his and he hasn't had

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Speaker 1: to worry about ball security because he's been able to

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Speaker 1: do all of these crazy things and it's always gone.

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Speaker 1: I'll just focus a little bit more on not making

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Speaker 1: you know, that desperation throw as you're going to the

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Speaker 1: ground and because you're not always going to hit those things.

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Speaker 1: So look, they'll be fine. Their defense is awful, but

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes gonna be just fine. He's a Hall of Famer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am, Chicago Hall of Fame. Yeah, it's all right,

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Speaker 1: it's Hall of fame. How many hall of fames are

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Speaker 1: you in? Now? You've got to be in like ten. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm in Sportscasting Hall of Fame. Course, and then Radio

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. All right, I'm in three. High School

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Oh well that's three. Yeah, I now

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Speaker 1: we're tied. But we grew up not too far from

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Speaker 1: each other. I grew up Sharonville, Ohio, went to Mular

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Speaker 1: High School, and I went to I'm from Mason, yeah yeah, Mason. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My parents lived in Westchester before they moved to tennis

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Speaker 1: See and you went to Dayton, right, yeah, yeah, good

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Speaker 1: Midwestern guys, yes, cornfed, good looks. Yes. I think you

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Speaker 1: and I should be in the ruggedly handsome Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame as well. Do they have that? You know what?

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Speaker 1: I'm going into the suction Hall of Fame? That is

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Speaker 1: awfully gross. Yes, I'm going. Um hey Todd, yes, you

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Speaker 1: got the limerick I do. I'm not going to subject

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Speaker 1: Waddle to this though. Well we'll take a break and

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Speaker 1: uh tell Sylvia. He's Tom Waddle, former Bears receiver and

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Speaker 1: a co host of Waddle and Sylvia on ESPN one

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Speaker 1: thousand in Chicago. Great to see you, buddy, Good to

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Speaker 1: see