Speaker 1: Clay Travis here, and we got a lot of requests
Speaker 1: for this, so I thought it made sense. We do
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Speaker 1: a long form conversation, and one reason I like to
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Speaker 1: listen live. We are joined now by the President of
Speaker 1: the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, thanks for starting
Speaker 1: your morning with us. We're excited to have you. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Clay. It's an honor. You have
Speaker 1: a great show. Well, I appreciate that. Now. I know
Speaker 1: you're a long time sports fan. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things I want to get into with you, but
Speaker 1: I want to start. You've been a big supporter of
Speaker 1: Tom Brady for a very long time. What were your
Speaker 1: thoughts when he decided to move to Tampa Bay And
Speaker 1: what do you think he's going to be capable of
Speaker 1: down there? Will you be rooting for him? Well, I
Speaker 1: think he's going to do a great job. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a winner. He knows how to win. That's a
Speaker 1: big thing. And he's just been a great quarterback with
Speaker 1: a great coach. It's a great combination and a great
Speaker 1: owner in Bob Kraft. Frankly, and he probably wanted to change.
Speaker 1: He wanted to change, and I think, you know, he
Speaker 1: had plenty of teams to go to, and then he
Speaker 1: picked one with from what I understand, a good offensive
Speaker 1: line and very good receivers. He looked at that closely.
Speaker 1: I think he probably had other choices where they had players.
Speaker 1: I think his biggest thing is he wants to win.
Speaker 1: And from what I know, and I know the ownership
Speaker 1: of the team, they'll do whatever they have to because
Speaker 1: they're fantastic people, the owners of the team at the
Speaker 1: Tom's own now and uh. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: do well in Tampa Bay. I think he'll do well.
Speaker 1: I think he'll I don't know why it would be
Speaker 1: a surprise, but perhaps it will be. But I think
Speaker 1: he's going to surprise a lot of people. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to do great. We're talking to the President
Speaker 1: of the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, What do
Speaker 1: you hear about the NFL. I know there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of talk. You mentioned that you talked to several
Speaker 1: different owners, Bob Kraft in particular. How confident are you
Speaker 1: that come September ten, with the schedule the opener between
Speaker 1: the Texans and the Chiefs, that the NFL will be
Speaker 1: underway and everybody out there who's an NFL fan will
Speaker 1: be able to watch. Well. They want to open, and
Speaker 1: they want to open badly, and they've been working with government.
Speaker 1: I would say this, if they don't stand for the
Speaker 1: national anthem, I hope they don't open but other than that,
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the open and we're doing everything
Speaker 1: possible for getting them open. And they can protest in
Speaker 1: other ways. They shouldn't protest our flag or our country.
Speaker 1: Have you talked have you talked with owners about your
Speaker 1: hope that they're going to stand for the national anthem?
Speaker 1: The players, Uh, they know my they know my my
Speaker 1: feelings very well. They've been expressed. I think it's been
Speaker 1: horrible for basketball. Look at the basketball writings that down
Speaker 1: down to very low numbers, very very low. People are
Speaker 1: angry about it. They don't realize that they don't want
Speaker 1: They have enough politics with guys like me, they don't
Speaker 1: need more. As they're driving down going up for the shot,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't need it. And there was a
Speaker 1: nastiness about the NBA the way it was done too.
Speaker 1: So I think that they the NBA is in trouble.
Speaker 1: I think it's in big trouble, bigger trouble that they understand.
Speaker 1: And frankly, ice hockey, which is doing very well, they
Speaker 1: didn't do that. They respected the more as they respected
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to be doing, and they're actually doing
Speaker 1: very well. As I understand it, I don't have much
Speaker 1: time to be watching this stuff. Just so you understand,
Speaker 1: it's just what I'm reading and what I'm seeing. But
Speaker 1: I saw he was with respect. I did not like
Speaker 1: what baseball did even a little bit. And again, you
Speaker 1: have to stand for your flag, and you have to
Speaker 1: respect your flag and your country. You're making millions of
Speaker 1: dollars a year to be playing the sport you'd be
Speaker 1: playing anyway. If you didn't make they'd be playing it
Speaker 1: on the weekends. And they got to They have to
Speaker 1: respect their country. And if they don't, frankly, if the
Speaker 1: NFL didn't open, I'd be very happy. If they don't
Speaker 1: stand for the flag and stand strongly, I would be
Speaker 1: very happy if they didn't open with without that. And
Speaker 1: with that being said, i'd love to see them open.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Donald Trump, the President of the United States,
Speaker 1: and President Trump. When you look at the n b
Speaker 1: A and you just reference the n b A and
Speaker 1: all of the political statements that they're making, it seems
Speaker 1: like every time you send a tweet, a executive, a coach,
Speaker 1: a player, somebody will come out and immediately fire back
Speaker 1: at you. But yet the NBA is taking billions of
Speaker 1: dollars from China. There are all sorts of human rights
Speaker 1: violations going on in China right now, and none of
Speaker 1: the players and none of the coaches will say a
Speaker 1: word about that. Does it feel hypocritical that they will
Speaker 1: rip the United States, they won't stand for the anthem,
Speaker 1: they'll rip you as the president, but they won't say
Speaker 1: a negative word about China at all. Well, I haven't
Speaker 1: noticed them sending things back at me, but I will
Speaker 1: say that, you know, I wouldn't be that surprised. Some
Speaker 1: are very nasty, very very nasty, and frankly, very dumb.
Speaker 1: But I haven't noticed that. But I will say this,
Speaker 1: the way they the way they catered to China, the
Speaker 1: way they bowed to China, it's a disgrace, frankly. And
Speaker 1: they make a lot more money here than they do
Speaker 1: from China. But we have a system that allows you
Speaker 1: to disrespect your system. And that's uh. Too bad for them,
Speaker 1: Too bad for them. They don't appreciate what they have here.
Speaker 1: But no that what they did with China, and what
Speaker 1: China did to us with the with the China virus,
Speaker 1: and and the rest of the world, by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the whole rest of the world.
Speaker 1: They stopped it from going in and spreading in China,
Speaker 1: but they didn't stop it from spreading in the US
Speaker 1: and in other parts of the world, including Europe, but
Speaker 1: other parts in the world countries. So Uh, I watched
Speaker 1: that whole thing with the general manager of the team
Speaker 1: was at Houston. Yeah, Darryl Moore, the general manager who
Speaker 1: said that he wanted to free Hong Kong. And speaking
Speaker 1: of Hong Kong right now, you've got I see the
Speaker 1: front page of the Wall Street Journal. The China went
Speaker 1: in and arrested a ton of pro democracy media members, uh,
Speaker 1: including Jimmy Lai, I believe, who was one of the
Speaker 1: most active participants in all of the Hong Kong democracy movement.
Speaker 1: For people out there who aren't paying attention, why should
Speaker 1: Americans care about what China is doing in in Hong
Speaker 1: Kong and maybe the threats to Taiwan as well well. Look,
Speaker 1: for years, Hong Kong was making a lot of money
Speaker 1: that we could have been made, that we could have
Speaker 1: been making in the New York Stock Exchange and our
Speaker 1: great exchanges. You know, we have the biggest exchanges. We
Speaker 1: have the Great Dollar, the dollar, which I've made stronger,
Speaker 1: much stronger, than it used to be. I hope people
Speaker 1: recognize that in the world of sports, our country is
Speaker 1: in good shape and we're coming back so strong. It's
Speaker 1: incredible when you look at the numbers that we're producing
Speaker 1: and putting up. We're coming back very strong. And we
Speaker 1: say millions and millions of lives by closing down and restarting.
Speaker 1: But I will say that with Hong Kong, we gave
Speaker 1: tremendous incentives and costs us a fortune to keep Hong
Speaker 1: Kong viable and going. And now what we've done, I've
Speaker 1: ended everything. I've ended all of that. There's no incentive whatsoever.
Speaker 1: We're not sending money through incentives back to Hong Kong.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make a lot more money because they're not
Speaker 1: going to be competitive. It won't be a competitive market,
Speaker 1: can't be with the government running it, so they're going
Speaker 1: to have a different kind of a deal. And we're
Speaker 1: not participating from the standpoint of we're not we're not
Speaker 1: spending you know, billions of dollars on making life comfortable
Speaker 1: with them for freedom. And that was okay, we do
Speaker 1: that if they were free, but they're not free. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a part, it's a part when you look, I mean,
Speaker 1: take a look at a map. It's attached to China.
Speaker 1: You know. So it's a little bit tough from certain standpoints,
Speaker 1: but we will do very well by not having a
Speaker 1: good competitor. I guess it'll be a competitor, but on
Speaker 1: a much smoiler scale. I know you have a good
Speaker 1: relationship with Chairman z over in China, but you mentioned
Speaker 1: the China virus, the virus that is obviously swept around
Speaker 1: the nation. You mentioned Hong Kong and the challenge to
Speaker 1: democracy there. Do you feel a bit disappointed in your
Speaker 1: friend Chairman z and how he has responded with China
Speaker 1: with the virus and also with Hong Kong. Well, I
Speaker 1: used to have a very good relationship with him. We
Speaker 1: made a trade deal. It was a great deal for us,
Speaker 1: you know. To look, China's ripped off our country for
Speaker 1: thirty years, like nobody ever, Nobody's ever done anything like
Speaker 1: what I've done, And we had a bunch of people
Speaker 1: sitting in the office that I'm in now that allowed
Speaker 1: it to happen. We're losing we were losing five hundred billion,
Speaker 1: six hundred billion, billion, not million billion dollars a year
Speaker 1: in trade with China. The deficit was massive, probably averaged
Speaker 1: two or three hundred billion dollars. Over many years, we
Speaker 1: we helped rebuild China. Look, if it wasn't for us,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have China as you know it today. We
Speaker 1: gave so much money so stupidly. How these people allowed
Speaker 1: it to happen. And I came in and I charged
Speaker 1: him tariffs and even more than that. And but I
Speaker 1: had a great relationship with presidents she I like them,
Speaker 1: But I don't feel the same way now. I've you know,
Speaker 1: every once in a while you will say, and you've
Speaker 1: had it, You've had it very well and play. I understand.
Speaker 1: I know you indirectly. I know you, and you have
Speaker 1: your likes and dislikes very strongly. So do I. But
Speaker 1: I didn't like what what took place. This is not
Speaker 1: trade this is this is a thousand times the trade deal.
Speaker 1: What happened with all of the death and all of
Speaker 1: the world, I mean, the world had to shut down.
Speaker 1: It's a disgrace what happened. You look at some of
Speaker 1: these countries in Europe, which is devastated. Look at what's
Speaker 1: going on in Africa with this horrible disease. So you know,
Speaker 1: I certainly feel I certainly feel differently. I had a
Speaker 1: very very good relationship and I haven't spoken to him
Speaker 1: in a long time. It's a different it's a much different.
Speaker 1: We have a much different relationship with China now than
Speaker 1: we did for years where they ripped us off and
Speaker 1: then I stopped that. They were having the worst year
Speaker 1: they had in sixty seven years because I charged them
Speaker 1: tariffs and we're making a lot of money. I was
Speaker 1: giving a lot of money to farmers. They were targeted.
Speaker 1: They were targeting farmers. I gave twenty eight billion dollars,
Speaker 1: that was the amount, and it came all out of China,
Speaker 1: and the farmers are doing great because of it. Otherwise
Speaker 1: they would have been all out of business. But you know,
Speaker 1: I treated them as you would do it. But I
Speaker 1: still had a good relationship. But once the once the
Speaker 1: plague came in from China, I go at the plague.
Speaker 1: But once the plague came in from China, the relationship changed,
Speaker 1: no question about it. It It would be it would be
Speaker 1: hard to believe that it wouldn't change. We're talking to
Speaker 1: the President of the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President,
Speaker 1: much less serious in terms of the plague. Although the
Speaker 1: virus is impacting many different parts of sports in America,
Speaker 1: including potentially college football. I know you're a big college
Speaker 1: football fan. You went to the L. S U Alabama
Speaker 1: game this past year, Joe Burrow against two of talking
Speaker 1: about low a great game. You went to the national
Speaker 1: title game where Clemson played against L. S U. Why
Speaker 1: is it important for college football to be played and
Speaker 1: what do you think you can do to help that happen. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, those those people, the people in that sport,
Speaker 1: it's just like incredible people. And you know, like some
Speaker 1: of the coaches like Nick Saban and coach Oh, how
Speaker 1: about coach O. He's amazing, he's central casting. Right, you're
Speaker 1: doing a football movie. You got to pick him as
Speaker 1: you coach, right, and did put him in the movie? Uh?
Speaker 1: And Lou Holtz is just a fantastic guy, a friend
Speaker 1: of mine who has been a supporter from the beginning.
Speaker 1: And you know, just just so many others. They're they're
Speaker 1: just great people and they want to play football and
Speaker 1: they know better than anyone else. The other thing is
Speaker 1: that somebody who's explaining I had actually a great one
Speaker 1: of the great doctors said, these people are so powerful
Speaker 1: and so strong, not lots of body fat, although you
Speaker 1: could take a couple of offensive alignemen perhaps and dispute that,
Speaker 1: but not a lot of body fat. Maybe none in
Speaker 1: some cases, you know, and they're very healthy people. They
Speaker 1: you know, people don't realize it's a tiny percentage of
Speaker 1: people that that get sick and uh, they're old. It
Speaker 1: just attacks old people, especially old people with bad heart
Speaker 1: diabetes or some kind of a physical problem, a weight problem.
Speaker 1: Is there wonderful that I'm of a perfect perfect physic
Speaker 1: osfestim and so great? Right, that's right? I was zero percent.
Speaker 1: Didn't have zero per somebody? Somebody said zero percent body fat?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice? But no, But this attacks older
Speaker 1: people very viciously, by the way it can be if
Speaker 1: it's the wrong person. But you know, these football players
Speaker 1: are very young, strong people and physically, I mean the
Speaker 1: physically an extraordinary shape. So they're not going to have
Speaker 1: a problem. You're not going to see people, you know,
Speaker 1: couldn't it be? Could it happened? But I doubt it.
Speaker 1: You're not going to see people dying. And many people
Speaker 1: get it, and they have like kids, they get it.
Speaker 1: They have the sniffles young kids. Almost none you have
Speaker 1: a serious problem with it. I mean literally, you look,
Speaker 1: I think I said, the state of California, almost nobody
Speaker 1: that's young had a like zero had a problem with
Speaker 1: meaning a serious problem with this disease. I mean, they
Speaker 1: get better very quickly, if they get it at all.
Speaker 1: So I think football's making a tragic mistake. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting when it opens. When I went to that game,
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I went to a couple of them,
Speaker 1: and I never really did the big time college football.
Speaker 1: I went to an ivy League school, it wasn't quite
Speaker 1: the same. But when I went to Alabama and I
Speaker 1: went to L s U. And you know, these stadiums
Speaker 1: are massive. You have no idea about that. There's much
Speaker 1: bigger crowds in the NFL. You know, in the NFL
Speaker 1: you have sixty and here we had I think a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen thousand people. And you go to see
Speaker 1: these games and it's it's it's brilliant football. It's great football.
Speaker 1: It's the atmosphere. There's nothing like it. And you can't
Speaker 1: have empty seats. You know, if I had five empty seats,
Speaker 1: for instance, they said, when I do a rally, sir,
Speaker 1: the reason I won't do them, because you can't have
Speaker 1: one seat and then seven around that seat, sir, have
Speaker 1: to be empty. Oh that'll look great. You know, you
Speaker 1: have one person and everything's very empty around them. You
Speaker 1: can't do that. Uh, And I don't think. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that college football can do it. But we'll have
Speaker 1: to see, you know, some sports I see. I think
Speaker 1: golf has not been hurt visually by In fact, I
Speaker 1: think golf looks more beautiful if you want to know
Speaker 1: the truth, you know, instead of a lot of people.
Speaker 1: You know, the cheering is good, and certainly I guess
Speaker 1: the income is good and all. But golf works. You
Speaker 1: know what works as UFC works very well. UFC. I
Speaker 1: watched that the other night, and they light up the stage,
Speaker 1: they light up the cage and it's, you know, really bright.
Speaker 1: They darken the arena, maybe put a little silk around it.
Speaker 1: Who knows, But that works, and other sports don't work.
Speaker 1: Basketball is not working. I think basketball is not working
Speaker 1: because of the way they treated our flag and our anthem.
Speaker 1: If you want another truth, but it doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: have anything. And I just I looked at it and
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it. And baseball I haven't I haven't
Speaker 1: made a ruling on that yet. In terms of my
Speaker 1: own I haven't had much of a chance to watch it.
Speaker 1: But some sports are working okay and some sports aren't.
Speaker 1: But I thought golf look really good for the p
Speaker 1: g A. I didn't miss the fans, and I think that,
Speaker 1: uh probably UFC was a very good one. I am
Speaker 1: not impressed. Somebody tell me hockey works okay, and but
Speaker 1: those sports are meant more for fans. I really believe that.
Speaker 1: I think they meant more for spans. I think basketball
Speaker 1: is going to need its fans back. From what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it looks very dull. I know. I know you're ready
Speaker 1: for the economy to be back rolling in. Sports are
Speaker 1: a big part of that, and schools opening are also
Speaker 1: a big part of that. I'm gonna ask you about both.
Speaker 1: But I also wonder do you ever think to yourself,
Speaker 1: I should play a trick on the media and say
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what I actually believe so they'll
Speaker 1: support it. Because it seems like every time you come
Speaker 1: out like you say schools should open, and the media
Speaker 1: immediately says, oh, schools can open. But if you had said, hey,
Speaker 1: we can't open schools I feel like the media would
Speaker 1: have said, oh, we gotta open schools. The president's crazy.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think about that because they talk about
Speaker 1: it all the time. Nobody else does. I say, Look,
Speaker 1: I could have had the wall built very easy. You know,
Speaker 1: we're building a wall. But it was getting it like
Speaker 1: was pulling teeth, and the Democrats opposed, etcetera, etcetera. Like
Speaker 1: you know, you watched that, and now it's being built
Speaker 1: up to two and fifties, two hundred and seventy seven miles.
Speaker 1: It will be done by the end of the year,
Speaker 1: a little bit after the end of the year. It's
Speaker 1: incredible the impact it said. Anyway, if I would have
Speaker 1: said I don't want a wall, they would have given
Speaker 1: it to immediately. If I this hydroxychloroquine, A lot of
Speaker 1: doctors swear by it, by my saying it's good. I
Speaker 1: took it for two weeks. You know, there's a little
Speaker 1: outbreak around Washington, and I said, let me have something.
Speaker 1: And I took it for two weeks and it was fine.
Speaker 1: You know, it was great. I didn't have it, I
Speaker 1: didn't get it, and I had no problem whatsoever with it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been around for a long time. It's
Speaker 1: a hilaria pill actually and lupus and it causes no problem.
Speaker 1: But as soon as I came out with it, they said, oh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, and they went crazy. They still are
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's number one all the time, which is phony.
Speaker 1: It's number one all the time and trending hydroxy you know,
Speaker 1: negative hydroxy stuff. If I would have said I don't
Speaker 1: believe in hydroxychloroque and it's terrible with zinc and with
Speaker 1: you know, the ZPEC is this remind said. If I
Speaker 1: would have said I don't believe in it, it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: it would be the hottest thing going right now. Uh No, No,
Speaker 1: I say it. I say it all the time. We
Speaker 1: could say it about a lot of different things, even religion.
Speaker 1: I when I held the Bible in front of a
Speaker 1: church that the the agitators and anarchists, you know they
Speaker 1: call them protesters, they tried to burn down a church
Speaker 1: and I held a Bible up in front of the church,
Speaker 1: and they said it was a terrible thing I did so,
Speaker 1: I said, I even affect religion negatively, Okay. I hold
Speaker 1: the Bible in front of a church that they tried
Speaker 1: to burn down the day before, and they say, isn't
Speaker 1: he a terrible human being? And I said, I've affected religion,
Speaker 1: hydroxy and just about anything else, maybe even your show
Speaker 1: after today, that will be the end. You've got these
Speaker 1: great ratings going. I see Clay, and you have the
Speaker 1: hell of your show. Maybe I will have destroyed your show.
Speaker 1: But you know the injuriesult Our country now is so sot.
Speaker 1: Our military has been rebuilt, our taxes have been cut
Speaker 1: way back, and regulations and what I've done for the
Speaker 1: vets nobody's ever done, nobody has ever even come close
Speaker 1: to doing. And you know so many other things We've
Speaker 1: done more than anybody, including even space force right space.
Speaker 1: So we've done a lot. But we have to fight hard.
Speaker 1: Probably I have to fight harder than a lot of
Speaker 1: other people. Last question for you, because I know you've
Speaker 1: got a ton of things to go. There's talk that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to announce his vice president either
Speaker 1: today or tomorrow. It seems like it's dragged on for
Speaker 1: some time. Who do you think he's gonna pick? Who
Speaker 1: should he pick? I know you like playing the political game.
Speaker 1: You weren't a politician for a long time. If you
Speaker 1: were sitting back on your couch watching television and following
Speaker 1: this election, what do you think he's gonna do? What
Speaker 1: do you think he should do? Well? I think that
Speaker 1: I would be inclined to go a different route than
Speaker 1: what he's done, you know, doing it the way he
Speaker 1: First of all, he roped himself into uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a certain group of people would he said he had
Speaker 1: to pick a woman. He said that, and you know,
Speaker 1: some people would say that men are insulted by that,
Speaker 1: and some people would say it's fine. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I will say this, people don't vote for the you know,
Speaker 1: this is history. This isn't necessarily mean this is history
Speaker 1: because we have a great vice president. Mike Pence has
Speaker 1: been incredible. Actually he's been a great vice president and
Speaker 1: done a really really good job and everything I've given him.
Speaker 1: And but people don't vote for the vice president. They
Speaker 1: really don't. They don't vote for the vice president. Like
Speaker 1: you can pick George Washington to be your vice president.
Speaker 1: Let's pick up Abraham Lincoln coming back from the dead.
Speaker 1: They just don't seem to vote for the vice president.
Speaker 1: Now in this case, you know, because Joe's got some
Speaker 1: some things going on. Let's not kid ourselves unless you
Speaker 1: I don't know where your politics are, but Joe's got
Speaker 1: some pretty big things going on, so you know, this
Speaker 1: is going to be a very very important pick, and
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see who he who he chooses.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. Also in the end, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna matter. Joe's gonna have to stand in
Speaker 1: his zone two feet and we're doing very well. Our
Speaker 1: poll numbers have really come up. You know, we got
Speaker 1: hit by We were unbeatable, and then we got hit
Speaker 1: by the China, by the China plague, by the China virus,
Speaker 1: and and obviously we got hit hard. And that affects
Speaker 1: a politician. You know, look at look all over the world.
Speaker 1: When you get hit it affects a politician. So we fought,
Speaker 1: and we've done a really good job with that and
Speaker 1: every other thing. And now the economy has come back
Speaker 1: so strong, and my poll numbers are are good. They're
Speaker 1: getting very good. I think they're gonna go even much higher.
Speaker 1: People appreciate what we're doing. So I don't know who
Speaker 1: he's going to pick. In theory it doesn't matter much,
Speaker 1: but maybe with him it probably matters much more than
Speaker 1: it normally does. For the obvious reason. I know I
Speaker 1: said last question, and I hit you with a sports
Speaker 1: question on your way out. The number one debate among
Speaker 1: sports fans for the last ten years probably has been
Speaker 1: who is better as a basketball player, Michael Jordan's or
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Which do you think no doubt in your mind? Well,
Speaker 1: I've seen him both. Michael Jordan's is plus he wasn't political,
Speaker 1: so people like him better. That is a perfect answer.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, President Trump, I appreciate you coming on. You're
Speaker 1: happy to have welcome to come on any time to
Speaker 1: talk sports with us. Thank you for the time this morning, sir,
Speaker 1: and good luck the rest of your term and maybe
Speaker 1: the next one to thank you very much. Great, thank you.
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Speaker 1: It's always fun to say, joined now by the President
Speaker 1: of the United States, Donald Trump. President Trump, appreciate you
Speaker 1: joining us. You're gonna be watching the US Open at all.
Speaker 1: Have you played winged Foot before? I'm actually a member
Speaker 1: of Wingfoot. That's pretty good any times. It's a great place.
Speaker 1: What do you think, well, the score of the winner
Speaker 1: at the US Open, given how challenging those conditions are.
Speaker 1: Last time it was plus five. Do you think someone
Speaker 1: will go under par or do you think it will
Speaker 1: be as the players are so good and they're so deep,
Speaker 1: so you would think so it was one of the
Speaker 1: higher scores. I guess that's right. It was plus five,
Speaker 1: which you don't see anymore. So let's see, I mean
Speaker 1: between the players and technology and everything else. But Wingfoot
Speaker 1: is great and the rough is very tough looking. If
Speaker 1: they hit the fairway, they'll be okay. If they don't,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in big trouble. But it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great open. What's the best store you ever had
Speaker 1: in around? You? Remember there? What's the best you've ever done?
Speaker 1: And Wingfoot, I'd say low seventies quite a bit. Low
Speaker 1: seventies would be what I what I've been remember there
Speaker 1: a long time and I could I could get it.
Speaker 1: I could do pretty well. But it's but it is
Speaker 1: just a great It's a great place. It's a wonderful place.
Speaker 1: I've I've enjoyed it for a long time. You've played
Speaker 1: with a lot of the top golfers in the world.
Speaker 1: Many of them will be playing at wingfoot. What's one
Speaker 1: of the most fun rounds you've had with the Tiger
Speaker 1: Woods or Rory McElroy And what's that experience like getting
Speaker 1: to play with a top golfer as a president. Well,
Speaker 1: the experience is terrible because you realize how bad you are.
Speaker 1: You know, there there is a big difference. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can be a good golfer and when you play
Speaker 1: with these top people, even anybody on tour. I always say,
Speaker 1: if there's anybody on tour, even somebody that you've never
Speaker 1: never heard of, I have a little expression. You know,
Speaker 1: the first team always take the tour player always because
Speaker 1: they're really good and they're they're better. You know, it's
Speaker 1: very hard to get on tour. It's very hard to
Speaker 1: stay on tour. So if you have the option, always
Speaker 1: take play the tour player. You'll very rarely do badly.
Speaker 1: I found that over the years. You've played a lot
Speaker 1: of golf over the years. But you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: very good. I'm an awful golfer. But every now and
Speaker 1: then you have a good round going and somebody sees
Speaker 1: you and like they pull you up and they say, hey,
Speaker 1: you can play through, And you know, you get nervous
Speaker 1: because you're like, if you get called up to get
Speaker 1: played through, you don't want to shank one. You don't
Speaker 1: want to hit a bad shot. When you're playing with
Speaker 1: the Tiger Woods or Rory McElroy, even as often as
Speaker 1: you have played, do you get nervous in the tea
Speaker 1: box team off with them? Yeah, I think a little bit.
Speaker 1: But know you're always a little bit nervous when you're
Speaker 1: in something that depends. I think the most nervous you
Speaker 1: get in golf is when you play in the club championships.
Speaker 1: That's our major, okay, I club you know, without strokes
Speaker 1: or anything, when you're playing in the club championship. To me,
Speaker 1: I think that's the most. I have friends that are
Speaker 1: very very good golfers, scratch players, and they almost can't
Speaker 1: play in the club championship. They don't play well and
Speaker 1: they just can't do it. It's the pressure, and I
Speaker 1: have I've had a lot of a lot of friends
Speaker 1: that just can't do it. I think that's our that's
Speaker 1: our major, right, and that's like a big deal. But
Speaker 1: you certainly get a little nervous. I play with Tiger
Speaker 1: a lot. Actually, he's a great guy, really a great guy,
Speaker 1: and it was amazing that he won the Master so recently,
Speaker 1: and you know, to me, it was one of the
Speaker 1: great achievements. But he's he's a wonderful person. Actually people
Speaker 1: don't know him. Uh, They're all good. You know. It's
Speaker 1: interesting when I play with golfers, I find them all
Speaker 1: to be very high quality. That's very rarely play with
Speaker 1: a tour player or something that that you don't like.
Speaker 1: I just find very nicely. Now nice Now you know
Speaker 1: they're playing with the president, so perhaps they're in good behavior.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but but this was before I became president.
Speaker 1: I just find golfers to be a very high quality
Speaker 1: group of people. You ever, I've played a few pro
Speaker 1: ams and you know, they announced your name, and you
Speaker 1: come up and you take a practice swing and there's
Speaker 1: people lined up, and I always think, I just don't
Speaker 1: want to kill someone, you know, by shanking one with
Speaker 1: people lined up really close to you. You ever hit
Speaker 1: somebody and have to sign a golf you know, like
Speaker 1: they always signed the golf gloves, you know, if you
Speaker 1: hit somebody down there. You ever had a bad pro
Speaker 1: am experience. I've had bad experiences, but not hitting people
Speaker 1: bad because I'll play badly or something, but not for
Speaker 1: hitting people. Proms are okay because usually you have three
Speaker 1: or four amateurs and the pro and there's always somebody
Speaker 1: to lips you up right if you're not playing well.
Speaker 1: But but pro ams are great. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. But no, gerald Ford was famous for hitting people, right.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly. Don't know what happened. He would
Speaker 1: always every time he played, he had a he had
Speaker 1: a propensity for seeing to do He's actually a good athlete.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a good golfer, but
Speaker 1: he was a very good athlete. But he had a
Speaker 1: tendency to do that. It's an easy transition there because
Speaker 1: gerald Ford was a huge University of Michigan fan, Like
Speaker 1: he would have them play Hell to the Victors I
Speaker 1: think instead of Hell to the Chief a lot of
Speaker 1: times when he would walk around because he was such
Speaker 1: a big Wolverine fan. You have been instrumental and your
Speaker 1: administration has been instrumental in helping to get big ten
Speaker 1: football back. Tell me about your call with Karen Kevin Warren,
Speaker 1: what the experience was like to help to make what
Speaker 1: became yesterday a reality. All these kids, all these schools,
Speaker 1: all these athletes, not just football, a lot of people
Speaker 1: not talking about it, but fall sports in the big
Speaker 1: ten back and able to now play. How proud of
Speaker 1: you are of that accomplishment and what went into it? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of it because it was dead, it
Speaker 1: was totally dead. And I told my people, look, we
Speaker 1: got a call. I say, who am I going to call?
Speaker 1: Who's the head of it? And was Kevin Warren who
Speaker 1: who really turned out to be very open about it.
Speaker 1: And I said, Kevin, look, we'll help you with testing,
Speaker 1: will help you, will get you everything that you need,
Speaker 1: but you've got to get it back for those states.
Speaker 1: Those states wanted. They're real football states, as you can understand,
Speaker 1: and you know, great teams and very unfair to players.
Speaker 1: It may be their last chance to show their you know,
Speaker 1: their skills to the NFL, and so they wouldn't get that.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you a group of people came together
Speaker 1: so fast once we started it because they they sort
Speaker 1: of gave up, although I will tell you didn't give up.
Speaker 1: The parents didn't give up, and the players didn't give up.
Speaker 1: They just wanted to play and enough with this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I called Kevin. He was open to it. We
Speaker 1: started talking real fast and hard and they ended up
Speaker 1: it culminated and getting it done. And we we have
Speaker 1: somebody Tim Pataki, who did a really fantastic job, a
Speaker 1: young guy who works at the White House. He did
Speaker 1: a great job. He really did that full time. Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna work on pack twelve. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: reason why they shouldn't be but now they're the only
Speaker 1: ones are just about and they should be playing. Now
Speaker 1: maybe you can't, I don't know. I mean, maybe you
Speaker 1: can't at this point. It's getting a little bit late,
Speaker 1: but they should be playing football. It's ridiculous. They may
Speaker 1: have a problem with their venues, who knows, you know,
Speaker 1: and some of them have a problem with governors. The
Speaker 1: governors had to come together and we had some governors
Speaker 1: that our Democrats and it wasn't easy, but we got it.
Speaker 1: We got it done, and you've got you can have
Speaker 1: some great football, big ten football. It's it's really terrific.
Speaker 1: We're talking to the President of the United States, Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and I know based on my background interacting with him.
Speaker 1: Tim Pataki did an incredible job. Who you just gave
Speaker 1: a shout out. He's an Ohio State grad over three
Speaker 1: d calls because some people out there, you know how
Speaker 1: it goes, and the media are going to say, oh,
Speaker 1: the White House had nothing to do with this, They
Speaker 1: had no impact. You guys were very helpful and impactful
Speaker 1: in making this a reality. I know that personally, but
Speaker 1: certainly the evidence reflects how hard Tim Pattack he worked
Speaker 1: and other members of your administration. And I understand now
Speaker 1: there has been contact between the White House and the
Speaker 1: Pack twelve to also offer the same amount of help.
Speaker 1: If the Pack twelve needs any assistance in order to
Speaker 1: be able to play this fall, well they I can
Speaker 1: tell you Big ten just needed some confidence in it
Speaker 1: and some backing. But we really were given a lot
Speaker 1: of backing. No without us. I'm not saying this for
Speaker 1: any reason. It was a terrible thing. You know. We
Speaker 1: did it that, We absolutely did it. If we didn't
Speaker 1: get involved, you wouldn't even be talking about Big ten
Speaker 1: right now. They had no chance of playing. They weren't
Speaker 1: going to play. And as soon as we did it
Speaker 1: for political reasons, a couple of people said, oh, they
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. They had nothing to do.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you when I don't have something to do,
Speaker 1: sometimes they get credit for something I shouldn't. In all fairness,
Speaker 1: that's okay too, I'll take it. But in this case,
Speaker 1: we we I mean Tim and his whole group and
Speaker 1: and me meant a lot of calls to a lot
Speaker 1: of people to get this thing done. And sort of
Speaker 1: sad when you do something and then you have a
Speaker 1: Democrat or you know, opponents saying well, they had nothing
Speaker 1: to do, and they know it's not true. We got
Speaker 1: it going, we got it started. We were able to
Speaker 1: show him the different testings, and they knew a lot
Speaker 1: about the testing anyway, but they just decided to go closed.
Speaker 1: And it was just not a good decision. And and
Speaker 1: Kevin Warrent did a fantastic job, by the way, gave
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. He got out and he just
Speaker 1: they just did a big reversal. And it's hard to
Speaker 1: do a reversal. You know, you make a decision and
Speaker 1: now you have to say the decision we're going to change.
Speaker 1: So it's it's really a hard thing to do. But
Speaker 1: Kevin was fantastic and some of the people we worked
Speaker 1: with were great. But no, we got that one open,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna try and we're gonna see what we
Speaker 1: can do. I hear there's a little flexibility in fact wealth.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to get people's hopes up too high,
Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of flexibility that we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can do it. When you look at the
Speaker 1: decisions that are being made in general, like Joe Biden
Speaker 1: ran television advertisements blaming you, I think it was in Michigan, Wisconsin, UH,
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania for their not being big ten football. Do
Speaker 1: you think that he will apologize now that you've helped
Speaker 1: to make big ten football reality, maybe start running ads
Speaker 1: praising you. Well, they did worse as they did. Work
Speaker 1: adds that I said horrible things about UH soldiers who
Speaker 1: had died, and that turned out to be a totally
Speaker 1: false story. It was made up. It's called disinformation if
Speaker 1: you know what that is in the sports world. They
Speaker 1: made up a lie and they went with it. It's
Speaker 1: a disgusting that was worse, but you know with and
Speaker 1: that was just a terrible thing to do. That's a
Speaker 1: real there's a real low lass. That's why I take
Speaker 1: off the gloves because you know, Joe is not equipped
Speaker 1: mentally equipped to be president. That I can tell you
Speaker 1: right now. He wasn't twenty five years ago. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think I can take the gloves of because when
Speaker 1: they did that, but they also did it in football.
Speaker 1: I hear somebody says it's too bad about football, though,
Speaker 1: what do you like football? So sure I do why
Speaker 1: they're taking adds in very important states, you know when
Speaker 1: you when you're talking about the states you mentioned are
Speaker 1: very important states, big powerful swing states. And he's taken
Speaker 1: adds that it's your fault that that Big ten isn't opened.
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta be kidding. And I put very
Speaker 1: light pressure on Big ten even before I started this
Speaker 1: heavy preyer yourself, and I said, you gotta be kidding.
Speaker 1: I got a hold of the ad and I said,
Speaker 1: what a lie. It's just a lie, and they do
Speaker 1: it was a lie. They made it up. They make
Speaker 1: up stores the worst campaign, most of this honest campaign
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And the ballots sending what do you
Speaker 1: see that these unsolicited ballots? What do you see the
Speaker 1: mess that they want? They wanted to be a mess.
Speaker 1: It's the only way they're gonna win. It's the only
Speaker 1: way they can win is to cheat, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: So that sounds that sounds See, football is a much
Speaker 1: nicer a much more genteel sport than politics, I can
Speaker 1: tell you, but I really believe that they want to
Speaker 1: do that. I know they want to do they want
Speaker 1: to make it a mess. But what happened. I saw
Speaker 1: the ad and that's actually what got me into gear
Speaker 1: because I said, oh, edny minute, I wanted to happen,
Speaker 1: but I really didn't think about getting involved. When I
Speaker 1: saw the end, I said, let's get involved to get
Speaker 1: it open. So that add is one of the reasons
Speaker 1: I got it open, because I just wanted to show
Speaker 1: that this was that was such a dirty thing to do.
Speaker 1: And uh, when everyone I was publicly record, as you know,
Speaker 1: Clay saying, you know you guys want to get to
Speaker 1: play and it, but you said it on my show.
Speaker 1: That's why who doesn't even pay much attention to politics?
Speaker 1: She said, wait a minute. The president came on your
Speaker 1: show last month before the big ten in the Pack
Speaker 1: twelve shut down. Instead, it would be a tragic mistake
Speaker 1: if they didn't play, and then they blamed you for
Speaker 1: the for the games not being played. Absolutely, it's a hud.
Speaker 1: And tell your wife I appreciate her good memory because
Speaker 1: some people don't remember so well. Your wife has the memory.
Speaker 1: You probably don't remember it, and she does and so
Speaker 1: your marriage, yeah, you know how marriage goes. She remembers
Speaker 1: everything I've ever done. It's not perfect, but it was
Speaker 1: such a bad it was so egregious and it was terrible.
Speaker 1: And because of that, I actually activated and and we
Speaker 1: got it done. So I'm very happy. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are really happy about it. I was gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this last time when you came on, but you
Speaker 1: came on in August and my nine year old son
Speaker 1: when I said, hey, you know, the President is going
Speaker 1: to come on Dad's radio show. I swear to god
Speaker 1: President Trump, the first thing he said was, wow, he
Speaker 1: knows Vince mcmah And that was his reaction. When the
Speaker 1: president is going to come on the radio show. He's
Speaker 1: such a w W E fan and his first reaction,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you can share that with Vince. That
Speaker 1: the first thought from my nine year old Um when
Speaker 1: you when you look you you mentioned Joe Biden in
Speaker 1: the debate over Big ten football and everything else. How
Speaker 1: excited are you? It's like a big sporting event for
Speaker 1: many people. On September twenty nine, when the first debate happens,
Speaker 1: are you prepping how do you get ready? It's almost
Speaker 1: like a sporting event, right, debate is considered in many
Speaker 1: schools to be a sport. How do you prep who's
Speaker 1: playing the role of Joe Biden in the White House?
Speaker 1: What's that experience like, And how's it different to be
Speaker 1: prepping as a president as opposed to a contender when
Speaker 1: you were doing it last time against Hillary. Well, I
Speaker 1: think in many ways it could be easier. But they'll
Speaker 1: make up stories like they did about Big ten and
Speaker 1: other things, and you know, they can hit you with
Speaker 1: different kinds of things. But we've done oh well, I
Speaker 1: mean until this pandemic came, and we had the greatest
Speaker 1: economy in the history of our country, and now we're
Speaker 1: building it back to a point where we're gonna have
Speaker 1: it again. All the states that you just mentioned had
Speaker 1: the best economy they've ever had last year, and now
Speaker 1: it's heading back to that again. You know, the stock
Speaker 1: markets doing great, a lot of things are doing great,
Speaker 1: and we're and we have vaccines coming very shortly. I
Speaker 1: mean literally in a matter of weeks, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: vaccines coming. So I really think that, uh, I think
Speaker 1: I think it would be a little bit easier I
Speaker 1: think I can't tell you who's going to show up
Speaker 1: with Joe because i've seen him where he's grossly incompetent
Speaker 1: that i've seen seen him where he's sort of normal.
Speaker 1: Like against Bernie, he debated normally. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he did, but he debated normally. But I've watched some
Speaker 1: of the other debates where he had the large number
Speaker 1: of Democrats, and I mean, he couldn't he couldn't put
Speaker 1: three words together. It was terrible. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know who's going to show up,
Speaker 1: do you. I saw what you said you would show
Speaker 1: up for Joe Rogan if he did a he suggested
Speaker 1: a four hour debate between you and Joe Biden. How
Speaker 1: do you think it would go if Joe Biden and
Speaker 1: you showed up for a four hour debate with Joe Rogan. Well,
Speaker 1: it was sort of done in jest at all, but
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, I think it's good. I think
Speaker 1: Joe has to be exposed and we'll see. Look with me,
Speaker 1: you know what you have, and we've done incredible deals
Speaker 1: with the even Big ten. I got Big ten. No
Speaker 1: other president would have gotten involved in that. As an example,
Speaker 1: there's no other president play that would have you understand
Speaker 1: that they would have Can you imagine Obama wouldn't have
Speaker 1: done it, just wouldn't have done it, and it just
Speaker 1: is not in the makeup and they can you imagine
Speaker 1: Biden doing it. He's a low energy person. I used
Speaker 1: to call Jeb Bush low energy, but I mean, if
Speaker 1: you compare the two, Jeb is extraordinarily energetic compared to
Speaker 1: sleepy Joe. So you know, I mean, Joe is not
Speaker 1: going to be doing that kind of stuff. And it's
Speaker 1: sort of fun because you know, I have this platform,
Speaker 1: and it's it's sort of easy to do when you
Speaker 1: have we have this great platform. You're president of the
Speaker 1: United States. We hear that football all over these incredible
Speaker 1: states and all of the people that are affected by it, everybody,
Speaker 1: even in the stands of people that work their stands, everybody,
Speaker 1: so many people, so many jobs, so many everything. And
Speaker 1: you have this platform and you go out and you
Speaker 1: use it and you use it for good. But I
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people would do that, And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, if they did it,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't know how to do it. I think you're right,
Speaker 1: and it's it's crazy to me that you get criticized
Speaker 1: for getting football back, right. I mean, like some of
Speaker 1: the media out there, they're upset because you got it back.
Speaker 1: And this goes to my mom. I mentioned my my
Speaker 1: wife earlier, but she said, hey, make sure you tell
Speaker 1: the president this for me. So she's a big supporter.
Speaker 1: Um and uh. And she said the other day, you
Speaker 1: know if President Trump went out on a boat, uh
Speaker 1: and uh. And you know, somebody's hat blew off, and
Speaker 1: he stepped out of the boat, walked on water and
Speaker 1: picked up the hat and brought it back to the
Speaker 1: to the fisherman. Uh. The New York Times front page
Speaker 1: would say that Trump can't swim. So, you know, it's
Speaker 1: funny kind of the way sometimes the media plays like
Speaker 1: you bring football back and are mad about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I have. The vaccine is way ahead
Speaker 1: of schedule. And now I'm being criticized on the vaccine
Speaker 1: because they're petrified that the vaccine comes in, you know,
Speaker 1: before the election. And I view it differently. I view
Speaker 1: it like, we're gonna save lives. It's you know, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great vaccine and we're going
Speaker 1: to save lives. Many great companies really close and probably
Speaker 1: have it, and they're in tests right now. But I'm
Speaker 1: being criticized for bringing it back too fast. And one
Speaker 1: of the doctors said, you know, it's a crazy world politics.
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to get a vaccine as fast as possible.
Speaker 1: President Trump gets it ready fast, and they're criticizing them.
Speaker 1: You know, it's wild. Do you expect a vaccine to
Speaker 1: be ready before the election by late October Halloween? It
Speaker 1: could be Uh, it will be right there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's right in that vicinity before a little or just
Speaker 1: shortly after, which is years ahead of schedule. You know,
Speaker 1: if you look at if you look at what was
Speaker 1: going on with vaccines, there was no chance if you
Speaker 1: go back to another administration, and I'm not just talking
Speaker 1: about Obama, if you go back to another administration, play
Speaker 1: there's no chance that this would have been to three
Speaker 1: or four years. Because I've energized the FDA and we're
Speaker 1: proving things faster and safely. It's all it has to
Speaker 1: be under present safe. But I've energized the FDA, which
Speaker 1: would have taken to three years, and we're going to
Speaker 1: have something in a matter of weeks. But it's amazing.
Speaker 1: This never happened until a few weeks ago when they
Speaker 1: started criticizing the whole concept of this vaccine only because
Speaker 1: I did it. If it wasn't me, it was somebody else,
Speaker 1: they'd say, Oh, this is unbelievable. The vaccine is going
Speaker 1: to be here so early. Uh, and it's people are
Speaker 1: very aware of what's going on. They see what's happening.
Speaker 1: This is all done by the Democrats. Are very upset
Speaker 1: that we've done such a good job with a vaccine.
Speaker 1: They're very upset that we've done such a great job
Speaker 1: with like the ventilators, when you had no ventilators that
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we started producing. You know, we've
Speaker 1: done a good job in the COVID. This was given
Speaker 1: to us by China. Shouldn't have happened. Should have never happened.
Speaker 1: They stopped it from coming into China, but they let
Speaker 1: it go to the world. The whole world is suffering
Speaker 1: because of it. It's a disgrace. But we've done a
Speaker 1: great job. But the new thing is the vaccine. And
Speaker 1: they're very very they're very angry, and you should they
Speaker 1: should be happy because we're talking about saving a lot
Speaker 1: of lives. But that's the world of politics, lay one
Speaker 1: of the world of politics. That's crazy to me, speaking
Speaker 1: of the way that the media has covered the coronavirus
Speaker 1: in general, um is they have praised Andrew Cuomo, who
Speaker 1: statistically has the worst death rate in the world President Trump.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not that he's writing a book about
Speaker 1: what a good job he did. You look at other
Speaker 1: states Florida, Arizona, Texas Republican governors, They've all done far
Speaker 1: better from a per capita perspective, and you would think
Speaker 1: that those guys have done awful jobs. All that matters
Speaker 1: is the difference between Republican and Democrat. I look at
Speaker 1: it like it's a scoreboard, like let's use data and
Speaker 1: actually use it. Like. It's wild to me that Andrew
Speaker 1: Cuomo is considered to be like the greatest governor in
Speaker 1: the history mankind. When you look at his record, it's
Speaker 1: it's awful. Yeah, he had a hard time. He had
Speaker 1: a hard time, and I mean I can tell you
Speaker 1: the story. I know the story better than anybody. I
Speaker 1: won't say it, but I thought he definitely had a
Speaker 1: hard time. A lot of people died, unfortunately, and one
Speaker 1: of the decisions, obviously was the nursing home, which I
Speaker 1: think needs to get looked into. But that seems to
Speaker 1: be a huge part of this is a huge majority
Speaker 1: of the deaths in many countries are coming out of
Speaker 1: nursing homes, and nearly fifty in the United States, and
Speaker 1: it's only point six percent of the population. Right, we
Speaker 1: have the nursing home. Look. It affects elderly people, especially
Speaker 1: if you have a heart problem or diabetes in particular,
Speaker 1: but other things too. But it turned out that they're
Speaker 1: vulnerable and young kids, if you have kids, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's incredible. Their immune system is stronger. Who would have thought,
Speaker 1: and the younger the better. But they have statistics where
Speaker 1: a certain state had many thousands of death, thousands of
Speaker 1: and not one death under eight think of it. Not one.
Speaker 1: Now my three kids are all back in school, which
Speaker 1: is why I've been arguing, we need sports, we need
Speaker 1: people back at work, and all three of my kids
Speaker 1: are back in person schooling, and I think that's important.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and thank you for helping to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Question for you, and this is a little bit interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know, in the grand scheme of things, Kim
Speaker 1: Jong un, there's been all sorts of questions about what's
Speaker 1: going on in North Korea, and I'm curious what you
Speaker 1: think about his health. But also roar is that he
Speaker 1: is a big American sports fan, that he loved the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls, Dennis Rodman, Michael Jordan's. Have you ever talked
Speaker 1: with Kim Jong n about the nineties Bulls and what
Speaker 1: did he say? What kind of conversation did you? Guy
Speaker 1: really does like Dennis Rudman. I will tell you it's
Speaker 1: it's sort of great. I always said Dennis would be
Speaker 1: better than some of these stiffs that they used to
Speaker 1: send over to get to know him. And they send
Speaker 1: these people over and they went to Harvard and they
Speaker 1: are great students and great everything, but they have no
Speaker 1: chemistry whatsoever. He really did like Dennis Rodman. Dennis good
Speaker 1: guy too, And they said, uh, we should maybe use
Speaker 1: him instead of somebody that graduated number one at Harvard.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should use Dennis. I thought about that, but
Speaker 1: we have I have a very good relationship with him.
Speaker 1: He does love basketball and he really does like Dennis. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so I always thought, like, man, if you could
Speaker 1: just bring him over here to go meet Michael Jordan's,
Speaker 1: like we might be able to get a great piece
Speaker 1: of cord, not to be based on how much he
Speaker 1: loved the bulls. Well, we've done well, we have a
Speaker 1: good relationship, and frankly, nothing's happened. If Hillary would have
Speaker 1: gotten in, or if you had a longer term Obama,
Speaker 1: you would have been in a war with them as
Speaker 1: sure as you're sitting there, and you would have had
Speaker 1: a war that would have been a really bad one,
Speaker 1: a lot of nuclear weapons, a lot of bad things
Speaker 1: would have happened. And we're right now. Just hey, whatever
Speaker 1: happened to that war, right and I have a relationship.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I mean, I'm not saying we
Speaker 1: did a great thing the other day with Israel. With
Speaker 1: Israel and Bahrain, you saw a new a And that's
Speaker 1: just the beginning. We have a lot of other countries
Speaker 1: that want to sign into that. You'll end up in
Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East. And people are even the
Speaker 1: New York Times is giving that one Rave reviews, which
Speaker 1: is shocking. They said, if you moved the embassy to Jerusalem,
Speaker 1: everything would fall apart. Instead, it seems like it might.
Speaker 1: It might actually have helped in a major way, which
Speaker 1: is a counterintuitive. Um. The last couple of questions for
Speaker 1: you here. Did you watch Tom Brady at all play
Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I did, I watched, But
Speaker 1: football's way down. Ratings was way down because people are
Speaker 1: not going to stand for this stuff anymore. Well, were
Speaker 1: there not respecting our flag and our national anthem? They're
Speaker 1: just not going to stand for Ratings were way down.
Speaker 1: I did watch Tom, and I like Tom a lot,
Speaker 1: and I think he'll be fine. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess it was a break in game. The other
Speaker 1: team is a good team, good quarterback. Uh and uh,
Speaker 1: it was an interesting game. What did you think? I
Speaker 1: don't you know. I think the big it's like a divorce,
Speaker 1: right Belichick and Brady, and which one's going to have
Speaker 1: a better post divorced life? And I liked the way
Speaker 1: that Cam played for the Patriots in Belichick. And if
Speaker 1: you were buying stock in Belichick right now or in
Speaker 1: Brady right now for this season, which one do you
Speaker 1: think is the better buy? Well, they're friends of mine,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, he's some coach. He's
Speaker 1: a very good friend of mine, and he's tough, and
Speaker 1: he endorsed me, and you know, he endorsed me the
Speaker 1: first time too, and he said he, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know some people don't want to get involved, Okay, they
Speaker 1: just so he doesn't care. He couldn't care less. He
Speaker 1: wants to do whatever's right. He's a tough guy, and
Speaker 1: and he's just a great Coach's remember when he said
Speaker 1: the field goal against Atlantic, go for the field goal.
Speaker 1: They were getting killed. They had a chance for a
Speaker 1: touchdown or a field goal, and he kicked the field
Speaker 1: goal and school like seven to three down. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he kicks a field goal, And I said, geez,
Speaker 1: that's not a good decision. It tended up to be
Speaker 1: a perfect decision because they had what tied and then
Speaker 1: they ended up winning the game. If he doesn't have
Speaker 1: that field god, now maybe they would have been a
Speaker 1: touch ten. You know, who knows what happens. But there's
Speaker 1: a case where you would have said that's too conservative, right,
Speaker 1: And but he is a great coach. I've watched him
Speaker 1: win games that other coaches just wouldn't win. But he's
Speaker 1: a great guy too, no doubt. Last question for you,
Speaker 1: does it seem as crazy to you as it does
Speaker 1: too many people in my audience that for high school
Speaker 1: football in particular, you've helped to get the Big ten back.
Speaker 1: We may end up with Pack twelve playing Mountain West.
Speaker 1: Other conferences could be coming back. But if you look
Speaker 1: at the data in different states for high school kids,
Speaker 1: whether they have a Democrat governor or a Republican governor,
Speaker 1: in many respects seems to be deciding whether high school
Speaker 1: kids should be able to play football or sports in
Speaker 1: the fall. In general, should it kids be able to
Speaker 1: play sports regardless of whether the governor is a Democrat
Speaker 1: or Republican. Well, it's too bad, it has to be
Speaker 1: that way. But if you look at these states with
Speaker 1: high crime, they're run by democrats. You look at the
Speaker 1: cities with high crime, they're run by democrats. And the
Speaker 1: Democrats tell you what their philosophy they're not working too well,
Speaker 1: and certainly their philosophies on law and order are working
Speaker 1: very badly. You look at all of the places that
Speaker 1: have problems. Uh, you know Portland, Look at that, it's
Speaker 1: run by these radical left Democrats. It's a disaster. We
Speaker 1: go and I could fix that up in half an hour.
Speaker 1: We'll send in the National Guard. They have to ask us,
Speaker 1: it has to be requested. But but all of these
Speaker 1: places are run by liberal Democrats, and so I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's sort of it should be easy. We're going to
Speaker 1: find out whether or not people agree with me. Last question,
Speaker 1: did you tell my producer Danny g that he deserved
Speaker 1: a raise when you called last time? Absolutely? I said,
Speaker 1: you got the president, but you really do. You have
Speaker 1: a great show and he's a nice guy. But I said,
Speaker 1: you got the president of the phone. You deserve a raise.
Speaker 1: I haven't done too many of these calls lately. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, sir. We'd love to have you back on
Speaker 1: anytime you want to come on. Keep doing good work,
Speaker 1: and thanks for the work you did for the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Like everyone, have a good time.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That is the President of the United States,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump.