1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Clay Travis here, and we got a lot of requests 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: for this, so I thought it made sense. We do 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: a lot on the Wins and Losses podcast where it's 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: a long form conversation, and one reason I like to 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: do it is because you're able to go back and 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: listen to it, and they're really kind of timeless. Well, 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: we've had the President of the United States on twice 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: and we've spent nearly an hour with him, right around 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: fifty minutes, and I thought, what if we have for 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: perpetuity those interviews, so you can go here what that 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: interview sounded like, and there's an easy way to find 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: them in the years ahead as a part of the 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Wins and lost His podcast. So we are putting together 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump from August of on our radio program, and 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: we're also putting Donald Trump from September of our radio program, 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: combining both of those. You can listen to them now 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: in one place, as many of you are doing, and 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: that podcast will begin now. Fox Sports Radio has the 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: our shows that Fox sports Radio dot com and within 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s are to 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: listen live. We are joined now by the President of 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, thanks for starting 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: your morning with us. We're excited to have you. Well, 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: thank you very much, Clay. It's an honor. You have 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: a great show. Well, I appreciate that. Now. I know 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: you're a long time sports fan. So there's a lot 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: of things I want to get into with you, but 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: I want to start. You've been a big supporter of 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady for a very long time. What were your 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: thoughts when he decided to move to Tampa Bay And 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: what do you think he's going to be capable of 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: down there? Will you be rooting for him? Well, I 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: think he's going to do a great job. You know, 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: he's a winner. He knows how to win. That's a 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: big thing. And he's just been a great quarterback with 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: a great coach. It's a great combination and a great 38 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: owner in Bob Kraft. Frankly, and he probably wanted to change. 39 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: He wanted to change, and I think, you know, he 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: had plenty of teams to go to, and then he 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: picked one with from what I understand, a good offensive 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: line and very good receivers. He looked at that closely. 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I think he probably had other choices where they had players. 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: I think his biggest thing is he wants to win. 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: And from what I know, and I know the ownership 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: of the team, they'll do whatever they have to because 47 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: they're fantastic people, the owners of the team at the 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Tom's own now and uh. I think he's going to 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: do well in Tampa Bay. I think he'll do well. 50 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: I think he'll I don't know why it would be 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: a surprise, but perhaps it will be. But I think 52 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: he's going to surprise a lot of people. I think 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: he's going to do great. We're talking to the President 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: of the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, What do 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: you hear about the NFL. I know there's been a 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: lot of talk. You mentioned that you talked to several 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: different owners, Bob Kraft in particular. How confident are you 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: that come September ten, with the schedule the opener between 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: the Texans and the Chiefs, that the NFL will be 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: underway and everybody out there who's an NFL fan will 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: be able to watch. Well. They want to open, and 62 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: they want to open badly, and they've been working with government. 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: I would say this, if they don't stand for the 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: national anthem, I hope they don't open but other than that, 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to see the open and we're doing everything 66 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: possible for getting them open. And they can protest in 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: other ways. They shouldn't protest our flag or our country. 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: Have you talked have you talked with owners about your 69 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: hope that they're going to stand for the national anthem? 70 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: The players, Uh, they know my they know my my 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: feelings very well. They've been expressed. I think it's been 72 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: horrible for basketball. Look at the basketball writings that down 73 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: down to very low numbers, very very low. People are 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: angry about it. They don't realize that they don't want 75 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: They have enough politics with guys like me, they don't 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: need more. As they're driving down going up for the shot, 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, they don't need it. And there was a 78 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: nastiness about the NBA the way it was done too. 79 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: So I think that they the NBA is in trouble. 80 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I think it's in big trouble, bigger trouble that they understand. 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: And frankly, ice hockey, which is doing very well, they 82 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: didn't do that. They respected the more as they respected 83 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to be doing, and they're actually doing 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: very well. As I understand it, I don't have much 85 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: time to be watching this stuff. Just so you understand, 86 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: it's just what I'm reading and what I'm seeing. But 87 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I saw he was with respect. I did not like 88 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: what baseball did even a little bit. And again, you 89 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: have to stand for your flag, and you have to 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: respect your flag and your country. You're making millions of 91 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: dollars a year to be playing the sport you'd be 92 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: playing anyway. If you didn't make they'd be playing it 93 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: on the weekends. And they got to They have to 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: respect their country. And if they don't, frankly, if the 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: NFL didn't open, I'd be very happy. If they don't 96 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: stand for the flag and stand strongly, I would be 97 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: very happy if they didn't open with without that. And 98 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: with that being said, i'd love to see them open. 99 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: We're talking to Donald Trump, the President of the United States, 100 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and President Trump. When you look at the n b 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: A and you just reference the n b A and 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: all of the political statements that they're making, it seems 103 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: like every time you send a tweet, a executive, a coach, 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: a player, somebody will come out and immediately fire back 105 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: at you. But yet the NBA is taking billions of 106 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: dollars from China. There are all sorts of human rights 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: violations going on in China right now, and none of 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: the players and none of the coaches will say a 109 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: word about that. Does it feel hypocritical that they will 110 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: rip the United States, they won't stand for the anthem, 111 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: they'll rip you as the president, but they won't say 112 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: a negative word about China at all. Well, I haven't 113 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: noticed them sending things back at me, but I will 114 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: say that, you know, I wouldn't be that surprised. Some 115 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: are very nasty, very very nasty, and frankly, very dumb. 116 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: But I haven't noticed that. But I will say this, 117 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the way they the way they catered to China, the 118 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: way they bowed to China, it's a disgrace, frankly. And 119 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: they make a lot more money here than they do 120 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: from China. But we have a system that allows you 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: to disrespect your system. And that's uh. Too bad for them, 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: Too bad for them. They don't appreciate what they have here. 123 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: But no that what they did with China, and what 124 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: China did to us with the with the China virus, 125 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: and and the rest of the world, by the way, 126 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: you know, I mean the whole rest of the world. 127 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: They stopped it from going in and spreading in China, 128 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: but they didn't stop it from spreading in the US 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: and in other parts of the world, including Europe, but 130 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: other parts in the world countries. So Uh, I watched 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that whole thing with the general manager of the team 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: was at Houston. Yeah, Darryl Moore, the general manager who 133 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: said that he wanted to free Hong Kong. And speaking 134 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: of Hong Kong right now, you've got I see the 135 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: front page of the Wall Street Journal. The China went 136 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: in and arrested a ton of pro democracy media members, uh, 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: including Jimmy Lai, I believe, who was one of the 138 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: most active participants in all of the Hong Kong democracy movement. 139 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: For people out there who aren't paying attention, why should 140 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Americans care about what China is doing in in Hong 141 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: Kong and maybe the threats to Taiwan as well well. Look, 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: for years, Hong Kong was making a lot of money 143 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: that we could have been made, that we could have 144 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: been making in the New York Stock Exchange and our 145 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: great exchanges. You know, we have the biggest exchanges. We 146 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: have the Great Dollar, the dollar, which I've made stronger, 147 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: much stronger, than it used to be. I hope people 148 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: recognize that in the world of sports, our country is 149 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: in good shape and we're coming back so strong. It's 150 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: incredible when you look at the numbers that we're producing 151 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: and putting up. We're coming back very strong. And we 152 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: say millions and millions of lives by closing down and restarting. 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: But I will say that with Hong Kong, we gave 154 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: tremendous incentives and costs us a fortune to keep Hong 155 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Kong viable and going. And now what we've done, I've 156 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: ended everything. I've ended all of that. There's no incentive whatsoever. 157 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: We're not sending money through incentives back to Hong Kong. 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna make a lot more money because they're not 159 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: going to be competitive. It won't be a competitive market, 160 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: can't be with the government running it, so they're going 161 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: to have a different kind of a deal. And we're 162 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: not participating from the standpoint of we're not we're not 163 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: spending you know, billions of dollars on making life comfortable 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: with them for freedom. And that was okay, we do 165 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: that if they were free, but they're not free. You know, 166 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: it's a part, it's a part when you look, I mean, 167 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: take a look at a map. It's attached to China. 168 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: You know. So it's a little bit tough from certain standpoints, 169 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: but we will do very well by not having a 170 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: good competitor. I guess it'll be a competitor, but on 171 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: a much smoiler scale. I know you have a good 172 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: relationship with Chairman z over in China, but you mentioned 173 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: the China virus, the virus that is obviously swept around 174 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: the nation. You mentioned Hong Kong and the challenge to 175 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: democracy there. Do you feel a bit disappointed in your 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: friend Chairman z and how he has responded with China 177 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: with the virus and also with Hong Kong. Well, I 178 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: used to have a very good relationship with him. We 179 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: made a trade deal. It was a great deal for us, 180 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: you know. To look, China's ripped off our country for 181 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: thirty years, like nobody ever, Nobody's ever done anything like 182 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: what I've done, And we had a bunch of people 183 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: sitting in the office that I'm in now that allowed 184 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: it to happen. We're losing we were losing five hundred billion, 185 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: six hundred billion, billion, not million billion dollars a year 186 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: in trade with China. The deficit was massive, probably averaged 187 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: two or three hundred billion dollars. Over many years, we 188 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: we helped rebuild China. Look, if it wasn't for us, 189 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have China as you know it today. We 190 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: gave so much money so stupidly. How these people allowed 191 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: it to happen. And I came in and I charged 192 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: him tariffs and even more than that. And but I 193 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: had a great relationship with presidents she I like them, 194 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: But I don't feel the same way now. I've you know, 195 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: every once in a while you will say, and you've 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: had it, You've had it very well and play. I understand. 197 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I know you indirectly. I know you, and you have 198 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: your likes and dislikes very strongly. So do I. But 199 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: I didn't like what what took place. This is not 200 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: trade this is this is a thousand times the trade deal. 201 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: What happened with all of the death and all of 202 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: the world, I mean, the world had to shut down. 203 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: It's a disgrace what happened. You look at some of 204 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: these countries in Europe, which is devastated. Look at what's 205 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: going on in Africa with this horrible disease. So you know, 206 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: I certainly feel I certainly feel differently. I had a 207 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: very very good relationship and I haven't spoken to him 208 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: in a long time. It's a different it's a much different. 209 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: We have a much different relationship with China now than 210 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: we did for years where they ripped us off and 211 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: then I stopped that. They were having the worst year 212 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: they had in sixty seven years because I charged them 213 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: tariffs and we're making a lot of money. I was 214 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: giving a lot of money to farmers. They were targeted. 215 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: They were targeting farmers. I gave twenty eight billion dollars, 216 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: that was the amount, and it came all out of China, 217 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and the farmers are doing great because of it. Otherwise 218 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: they would have been all out of business. But you know, 219 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: I treated them as you would do it. But I 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: still had a good relationship. But once the once the 221 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: plague came in from China, I go at the plague. 222 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: But once the plague came in from China, the relationship changed, 223 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: no question about it. It It would be it would be 224 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: hard to believe that it wouldn't change. We're talking to 225 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: the President of the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, 226 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: much less serious in terms of the plague. Although the 227 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: virus is impacting many different parts of sports in America, 228 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: including potentially college football. I know you're a big college 229 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: football fan. You went to the L. S U Alabama 230 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: game this past year, Joe Burrow against two of talking 231 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: about low a great game. You went to the national 232 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: title game where Clemson played against L. S U. Why 233 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: is it important for college football to be played and 234 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: what do you think you can do to help that happen. Well, 235 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: first of all, those those people, the people in that sport, 236 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: it's just like incredible people. And you know, like some 237 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: of the coaches like Nick Saban and coach Oh, how 238 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: about coach O. He's amazing, he's central casting. Right, you're 239 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: doing a football movie. You got to pick him as 240 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: you coach, right, and did put him in the movie? Uh? 241 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: And Lou Holtz is just a fantastic guy, a friend 242 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: of mine who has been a supporter from the beginning. 243 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: And you know, just just so many others. They're they're 244 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: just great people and they want to play football and 245 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: they know better than anyone else. The other thing is 246 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: that somebody who's explaining I had actually a great one 247 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: of the great doctors said, these people are so powerful 248 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: and so strong, not lots of body fat, although you 249 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: could take a couple of offensive alignemen perhaps and dispute that, 250 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: but not a lot of body fat. Maybe none in 251 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: some cases, you know, and they're very healthy people. They 252 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, people don't realize it's a tiny percentage of 253 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: people that that get sick and uh, they're old. It 254 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: just attacks old people, especially old people with bad heart 255 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: diabetes or some kind of a physical problem, a weight problem. 256 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Is there wonderful that I'm of a perfect perfect physic 257 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: osfestim and so great? Right, that's right? I was zero percent. 258 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: Didn't have zero per somebody? Somebody said zero percent body fat? 259 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice? But no, But this attacks older 260 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: people very viciously, by the way it can be if 261 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: it's the wrong person. But you know, these football players 262 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: are very young, strong people and physically, I mean the 263 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: physically an extraordinary shape. So they're not going to have 264 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: a problem. You're not going to see people, you know, 265 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: couldn't it be? Could it happened? But I doubt it. 266 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: You're not going to see people dying. And many people 267 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: get it, and they have like kids, they get it. 268 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: They have the sniffles young kids. Almost none you have 269 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: a serious problem with it. I mean literally, you look, 270 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: I think I said, the state of California, almost nobody 271 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: that's young had a like zero had a problem with 272 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: meaning a serious problem with this disease. I mean, they 273 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: get better very quickly, if they get it at all. 274 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: So I think football's making a tragic mistake. And you know, 275 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting when it opens. When I went to that game, 276 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: it was incredible. I went to a couple of them, 277 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: and I never really did the big time college football. 278 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: I went to an ivy League school, it wasn't quite 279 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: the same. But when I went to Alabama and I 280 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: went to L s U. And you know, these stadiums 281 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: are massive. You have no idea about that. There's much 282 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: bigger crowds in the NFL. You know, in the NFL 283 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: you have sixty and here we had I think a 284 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen thousand people. And you go to see 285 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: these games and it's it's it's brilliant football. It's great football. 286 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: It's the atmosphere. There's nothing like it. And you can't 287 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: have empty seats. You know, if I had five empty seats, 288 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: for instance, they said, when I do a rally, sir, 289 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: the reason I won't do them, because you can't have 290 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: one seat and then seven around that seat, sir, have 291 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: to be empty. Oh that'll look great. You know, you 292 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: have one person and everything's very empty around them. You 293 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: can't do that. Uh, And I don't think. I'm not 294 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: sure that college football can do it. But we'll have 295 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: to see, you know, some sports I see. I think 296 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: golf has not been hurt visually by In fact, I 297 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: think golf looks more beautiful if you want to know 298 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: the truth, you know, instead of a lot of people. 299 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: You know, the cheering is good, and certainly I guess 300 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: the income is good and all. But golf works. You 301 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: know what works as UFC works very well. UFC. I 302 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: watched that the other night, and they light up the stage, 303 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: they light up the cage and it's, you know, really bright. 304 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: They darken the arena, maybe put a little silk around it. 305 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Who knows, But that works, and other sports don't work. 306 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Basketball is not working. I think basketball is not working 307 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: because of the way they treated our flag and our anthem. 308 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: If you want another truth, but it doesn't seem to 309 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: have anything. And I just I looked at it and 310 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it. And baseball I haven't I haven't 311 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: made a ruling on that yet. In terms of my 312 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: own I haven't had much of a chance to watch it. 313 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: But some sports are working okay and some sports aren't. 314 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: But I thought golf look really good for the p 315 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: g A. I didn't miss the fans, and I think that, 316 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: uh probably UFC was a very good one. I am 317 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: not impressed. Somebody tell me hockey works okay, and but 318 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: those sports are meant more for fans. I really believe that. 319 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: I think they meant more for spans. I think basketball 320 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: is going to need its fans back. From what I'm saying, 321 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: it looks very dull. I know. I know you're ready 322 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: for the economy to be back rolling in. Sports are 323 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: a big part of that, and schools opening are also 324 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: a big part of that. I'm gonna ask you about both. 325 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: But I also wonder do you ever think to yourself, 326 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: I should play a trick on the media and say 327 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what I actually believe so they'll 328 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: support it. Because it seems like every time you come 329 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: out like you say schools should open, and the media 330 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: immediately says, oh, schools can open. But if you had said, hey, 331 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: we can't open schools I feel like the media would 332 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: have said, oh, we gotta open schools. The president's crazy. 333 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Do you ever think about that because they talk about 334 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: it all the time. Nobody else does. I say, Look, 335 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: I could have had the wall built very easy. You know, 336 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: we're building a wall. But it was getting it like 337 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: was pulling teeth, and the Democrats opposed, etcetera, etcetera. Like 338 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, you watched that, and now it's being built 339 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: up to two and fifties, two hundred and seventy seven miles. 340 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: It will be done by the end of the year, 341 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: a little bit after the end of the year. It's 342 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: incredible the impact it said. Anyway, if I would have 343 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: said I don't want a wall, they would have given 344 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: it to immediately. If I this hydroxychloroquine, A lot of 345 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: doctors swear by it, by my saying it's good. I 346 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: took it for two weeks. You know, there's a little 347 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: outbreak around Washington, and I said, let me have something. 348 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: And I took it for two weeks and it was fine. 349 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: You know, it was great. I didn't have it, I 350 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: didn't get it, and I had no problem whatsoever with it. 351 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's been around for a long time. It's 352 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: a hilaria pill actually and lupus and it causes no problem. 353 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: But as soon as I came out with it, they said, oh, 354 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, and they went crazy. They still are 355 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's number one all the time, which is phony. 356 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: It's number one all the time and trending hydroxy you know, 357 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: negative hydroxy stuff. If I would have said I don't 358 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: believe in hydroxychloroque and it's terrible with zinc and with 359 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, the ZPEC is this remind said. If I 360 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: would have said I don't believe in it, it doesn't work, 361 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: it would be the hottest thing going right now. Uh No, No, 362 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: I say it. I say it all the time. We 363 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: could say it about a lot of different things, even religion. 364 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: I when I held the Bible in front of a 365 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: church that the the agitators and anarchists, you know they 366 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: call them protesters, they tried to burn down a church 367 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: and I held a Bible up in front of the church, 368 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: and they said it was a terrible thing I did so, 369 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: I said, I even affect religion negatively, Okay. I hold 370 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: the Bible in front of a church that they tried 371 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: to burn down the day before, and they say, isn't 372 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: he a terrible human being? And I said, I've affected religion, 373 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: hydroxy and just about anything else, maybe even your show 374 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: after today, that will be the end. You've got these 375 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: great ratings going. I see Clay, and you have the 376 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: hell of your show. Maybe I will have destroyed your show. 377 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: But you know the injuriesult Our country now is so sot. 378 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: Our military has been rebuilt, our taxes have been cut 379 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: way back, and regulations and what I've done for the 380 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: vets nobody's ever done, nobody has ever even come close 381 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: to doing. And you know so many other things We've 382 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: done more than anybody, including even space force right space. 383 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: So we've done a lot. But we have to fight hard. 384 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: Probably I have to fight harder than a lot of 385 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: other people. Last question for you, because I know you've 386 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: got a ton of things to go. There's talk that 387 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to announce his vice president either 388 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: today or tomorrow. It seems like it's dragged on for 389 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: some time. Who do you think he's gonna pick? Who 390 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: should he pick? I know you like playing the political game. 391 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: You weren't a politician for a long time. If you 392 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: were sitting back on your couch watching television and following 393 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: this election, what do you think he's gonna do? What 394 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: do you think he should do? Well? I think that 395 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: I would be inclined to go a different route than 396 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: what he's done, you know, doing it the way he 397 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: First of all, he roped himself into uh, you know, 398 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: a certain group of people would he said he had 399 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: to pick a woman. He said that, and you know, 400 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: some people would say that men are insulted by that, 401 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: and some people would say it's fine. I don't know, 402 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: I will say this, people don't vote for the you know, 403 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: this is history. This isn't necessarily mean this is history 404 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: because we have a great vice president. Mike Pence has 405 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: been incredible. Actually he's been a great vice president and 406 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: done a really really good job and everything I've given him. 407 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: And but people don't vote for the vice president. They 408 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: really don't. They don't vote for the vice president. Like 409 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: you can pick George Washington to be your vice president. 410 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: Let's pick up Abraham Lincoln coming back from the dead. 411 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: They just don't seem to vote for the vice president. 412 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Now in this case, you know, because Joe's got some 413 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: some things going on. Let's not kid ourselves unless you 414 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't know where your politics are, but Joe's got 415 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: some pretty big things going on, so you know, this 416 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: is going to be a very very important pick, and 417 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see who he who he chooses. 418 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. Also in the end, I don't 419 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: think it's gonna matter. Joe's gonna have to stand in 420 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: his zone two feet and we're doing very well. Our 421 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: poll numbers have really come up. You know, we got 422 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: hit by We were unbeatable, and then we got hit 423 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: by the China, by the China plague, by the China virus, 424 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: and and obviously we got hit hard. And that affects 425 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: a politician. You know, look at look all over the world. 426 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: When you get hit it affects a politician. So we fought, 427 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: and we've done a really good job with that and 428 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: every other thing. And now the economy has come back 429 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: so strong, and my poll numbers are are good. They're 430 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: getting very good. I think they're gonna go even much higher. 431 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: People appreciate what we're doing. So I don't know who 432 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: he's going to pick. In theory it doesn't matter much, 433 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: but maybe with him it probably matters much more than 434 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: it normally does. For the obvious reason. I know I 435 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: said last question, and I hit you with a sports 436 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: question on your way out. The number one debate among 437 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: sports fans for the last ten years probably has been 438 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: who is better as a basketball player, Michael Jordan's or 439 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: Lebron James. Which do you think no doubt in your mind? Well, 440 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: I've seen him both. Michael Jordan's is plus he wasn't political, 441 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: so people like him better. That is a perfect answer. 442 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, President Trump, I appreciate you coming on. You're 443 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: happy to have welcome to come on any time to 444 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: talk sports with us. Thank you for the time this morning, sir, 445 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: and good luck the rest of your term and maybe 446 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: the next one to thank you very much. Great, thank you. 447 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked the Coverage 448 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: with Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 449 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: It's always fun to say, joined now by the President 450 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: of the United States, Donald Trump. President Trump, appreciate you 451 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: joining us. You're gonna be watching the US Open at all. 452 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: Have you played winged Foot before? I'm actually a member 453 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: of Wingfoot. That's pretty good any times. It's a great place. 454 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: What do you think, well, the score of the winner 455 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: at the US Open, given how challenging those conditions are. 456 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: Last time it was plus five. Do you think someone 457 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: will go under par or do you think it will 458 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: be as the players are so good and they're so deep, 459 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: so you would think so it was one of the 460 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: higher scores. I guess that's right. It was plus five, 461 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: which you don't see anymore. So let's see, I mean 462 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: between the players and technology and everything else. But Wingfoot 463 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: is great and the rough is very tough looking. If 464 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: they hit the fairway, they'll be okay. If they don't, 465 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in big trouble. But it's gonna be 466 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: a great open. What's the best store you ever had 467 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: in around? You? Remember there? What's the best you've ever done? 468 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: And Wingfoot, I'd say low seventies quite a bit. Low 469 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: seventies would be what I what I've been remember there 470 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: a long time and I could I could get it. 471 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I could do pretty well. But it's but it is 472 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: just a great It's a great place. It's a wonderful place. 473 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: I've I've enjoyed it for a long time. You've played 474 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: with a lot of the top golfers in the world. 475 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Many of them will be playing at wingfoot. What's one 476 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: of the most fun rounds you've had with the Tiger 477 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: Woods or Rory McElroy And what's that experience like getting 478 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: to play with a top golfer as a president. Well, 479 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: the experience is terrible because you realize how bad you are. 480 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, there there is a big difference. I mean, 481 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: you can be a good golfer and when you play 482 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: with these top people, even anybody on tour. I always say, 483 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: if there's anybody on tour, even somebody that you've never 484 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: never heard of, I have a little expression. You know, 485 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: the first team always take the tour player always because 486 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: they're really good and they're they're better. You know, it's 487 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: very hard to get on tour. It's very hard to 488 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: stay on tour. So if you have the option, always 489 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: take play the tour player. You'll very rarely do badly. 490 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: I found that over the years. You've played a lot 491 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: of golf over the years. But you know, I'm not 492 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: very good. I'm an awful golfer. But every now and 493 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: then you have a good round going and somebody sees 494 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: you and like they pull you up and they say, hey, 495 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: you can play through, And you know, you get nervous 496 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: because you're like, if you get called up to get 497 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: played through, you don't want to shank one. You don't 498 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: want to hit a bad shot. When you're playing with 499 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: the Tiger Woods or Rory McElroy, even as often as 500 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: you have played, do you get nervous in the tea 501 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: box team off with them? Yeah, I think a little bit. 502 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: But know you're always a little bit nervous when you're 503 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: in something that depends. I think the most nervous you 504 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: get in golf is when you play in the club championships. 505 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: That's our major, okay, I club you know, without strokes 506 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: or anything, when you're playing in the club championship. To me, 507 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the most. I have friends that are 508 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: very very good golfers, scratch players, and they almost can't 509 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: play in the club championship. They don't play well and 510 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: they just can't do it. It's the pressure, and I 511 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: have I've had a lot of a lot of friends 512 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: that just can't do it. I think that's our that's 513 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: our major, right, and that's like a big deal. But 514 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: you certainly get a little nervous. I play with Tiger 515 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot. Actually, he's a great guy, really a great guy, 516 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: and it was amazing that he won the Master so recently, 517 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: and you know, to me, it was one of the 518 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: great achievements. But he's he's a wonderful person. Actually people 519 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: don't know him. Uh, They're all good. You know. It's 520 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: interesting when I play with golfers, I find them all 521 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: to be very high quality. That's very rarely play with 522 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: a tour player or something that that you don't like. 523 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: I just find very nicely. Now nice Now you know 524 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: they're playing with the president, so perhaps they're in good behavior. 525 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but but this was before I became president. 526 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: I just find golfers to be a very high quality 527 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: group of people. You ever, I've played a few pro 528 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: ams and you know, they announced your name, and you 529 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: come up and you take a practice swing and there's 530 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: people lined up, and I always think, I just don't 531 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: want to kill someone, you know, by shanking one with 532 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: people lined up really close to you. You ever hit 533 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: somebody and have to sign a golf you know, like 534 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: they always signed the golf gloves, you know, if you 535 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: hit somebody down there. You ever had a bad pro 536 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: am experience. I've had bad experiences, but not hitting people 537 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: bad because I'll play badly or something, but not for 538 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: hitting people. Proms are okay because usually you have three 539 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: or four amateurs and the pro and there's always somebody 540 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: to lips you up right if you're not playing well. 541 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: But but pro ams are great. There are a lot 542 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: of fun. But no, gerald Ford was famous for hitting people, right. 543 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly. Don't know what happened. He would 544 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: always every time he played, he had a he had 545 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: a propensity for seeing to do He's actually a good athlete. 546 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a good golfer, but 547 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: he was a very good athlete. But he had a 548 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: tendency to do that. It's an easy transition there because 549 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: gerald Ford was a huge University of Michigan fan, Like 550 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: he would have them play Hell to the Victors I 551 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: think instead of Hell to the Chief a lot of 552 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: times when he would walk around because he was such 553 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: a big Wolverine fan. You have been instrumental and your 554 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: administration has been instrumental in helping to get big ten 555 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: football back. Tell me about your call with Karen Kevin Warren, 556 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: what the experience was like to help to make what 557 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: became yesterday a reality. All these kids, all these schools, 558 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: all these athletes, not just football, a lot of people 559 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: not talking about it, but fall sports in the big 560 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: ten back and able to now play. How proud of 561 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: you are of that accomplishment and what went into it? Well, 562 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of it because it was dead, it 563 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: was totally dead. And I told my people, look, we 564 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: got a call. I say, who am I going to call? 565 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: Who's the head of it? And was Kevin Warren who 566 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 1: who really turned out to be very open about it. 567 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: And I said, Kevin, look, we'll help you with testing, 568 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: will help you, will get you everything that you need, 569 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: but you've got to get it back for those states. 570 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: Those states wanted. They're real football states, as you can understand, 571 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: and you know, great teams and very unfair to players. 572 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: It may be their last chance to show their you know, 573 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: their skills to the NFL, and so they wouldn't get that. 574 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you a group of people came together 575 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: so fast once we started it because they they sort 576 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: of gave up, although I will tell you didn't give up. 577 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: The parents didn't give up, and the players didn't give up. 578 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: They just wanted to play and enough with this stuff. 579 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: And I called Kevin. He was open to it. We 580 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: started talking real fast and hard and they ended up 581 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: it culminated and getting it done. And we we have 582 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: somebody Tim Pataki, who did a really fantastic job, a 583 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: young guy who works at the White House. He did 584 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: a great job. He really did that full time. Now 585 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna work on pack twelve. I mean, there's no 586 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: reason why they shouldn't be but now they're the only 587 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: ones are just about and they should be playing. Now 588 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: maybe you can't, I don't know. I mean, maybe you 589 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: can't at this point. It's getting a little bit late, 590 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: but they should be playing football. It's ridiculous. They may 591 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: have a problem with their venues, who knows, you know, 592 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: and some of them have a problem with governors. The 593 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: governors had to come together and we had some governors 594 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: that our Democrats and it wasn't easy, but we got it. 595 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: We got it done, and you've got you can have 596 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: some great football, big ten football. It's it's really terrific. 597 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: We're talking to the President of the United States, Donald Trump, 598 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: and I know based on my background interacting with him. 599 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Tim Pataki did an incredible job. Who you just gave 600 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: a shout out. He's an Ohio State grad over three 601 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: d calls because some people out there, you know how 602 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: it goes, and the media are going to say, oh, 603 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: the White House had nothing to do with this, They 604 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: had no impact. You guys were very helpful and impactful 605 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: in making this a reality. I know that personally, but 606 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: certainly the evidence reflects how hard Tim Pattack he worked 607 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: and other members of your administration. And I understand now 608 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: there has been contact between the White House and the 609 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: Pack twelve to also offer the same amount of help. 610 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: If the Pack twelve needs any assistance in order to 611 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: be able to play this fall, well they I can 612 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: tell you Big ten just needed some confidence in it 613 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: and some backing. But we really were given a lot 614 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: of backing. No without us. I'm not saying this for 615 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: any reason. It was a terrible thing. You know. We 616 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: did it that, We absolutely did it. If we didn't 617 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: get involved, you wouldn't even be talking about Big ten 618 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: right now. They had no chance of playing. They weren't 619 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: going to play. And as soon as we did it 620 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: for political reasons, a couple of people said, oh, they 621 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. They had nothing to do. 622 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you when I don't have something to do, 623 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: sometimes they get credit for something I shouldn't. In all fairness, 624 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: that's okay too, I'll take it. But in this case, 625 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: we we I mean Tim and his whole group and 626 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: and me meant a lot of calls to a lot 627 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: of people to get this thing done. And sort of 628 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: sad when you do something and then you have a 629 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Democrat or you know, opponents saying well, they had nothing 630 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: to do, and they know it's not true. We got 631 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: it going, we got it started. We were able to 632 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: show him the different testings, and they knew a lot 633 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: about the testing anyway, but they just decided to go closed. 634 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: And it was just not a good decision. And and 635 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Warrent did a fantastic job, by the way, gave 636 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. He got out and he just 637 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: they just did a big reversal. And it's hard to 638 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: do a reversal. You know, you make a decision and 639 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: now you have to say the decision we're going to change. 640 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's really a hard thing to do. But 641 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: Kevin was fantastic and some of the people we worked 642 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: with were great. But no, we got that one open, 643 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: and we're gonna try and we're gonna see what we 644 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: can do. I hear there's a little flexibility in fact wealth. 645 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: So I don't want to get people's hopes up too high, 646 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of flexibility that we'll see 647 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: if we can do it. When you look at the 648 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: decisions that are being made in general, like Joe Biden 649 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: ran television advertisements blaming you, I think it was in Michigan, Wisconsin, UH, 650 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania for their not being big ten football. Do 651 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: you think that he will apologize now that you've helped 652 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: to make big ten football reality, maybe start running ads 653 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: praising you. Well, they did worse as they did. Work 654 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: adds that I said horrible things about UH soldiers who 655 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: had died, and that turned out to be a totally 656 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: false story. It was made up. It's called disinformation if 657 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: you know what that is in the sports world. They 658 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: made up a lie and they went with it. It's 659 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: a disgusting that was worse, but you know with and 660 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: that was just a terrible thing to do. That's a 661 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: real there's a real low lass. That's why I take 662 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: off the gloves because you know, Joe is not equipped 663 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: mentally equipped to be president. That I can tell you 664 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: right now. He wasn't twenty five years ago. But you know, 665 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: I think I can take the gloves of because when 666 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: they did that, but they also did it in football. 667 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: I hear somebody says it's too bad about football, though, 668 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: what do you like football? So sure I do why 669 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: they're taking adds in very important states, you know when 670 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: you when you're talking about the states you mentioned are 671 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: very important states, big powerful swing states. And he's taken 672 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: adds that it's your fault that that Big ten isn't opened. 673 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: I said, you gotta be kidding. And I put very 674 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: light pressure on Big ten even before I started this 675 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: heavy preyer yourself, and I said, you gotta be kidding. 676 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: I got a hold of the ad and I said, 677 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: what a lie. It's just a lie, and they do 678 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: it was a lie. They made it up. They make 679 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: up stores the worst campaign, most of this honest campaign 680 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And the ballots sending what do you 681 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: see that these unsolicited ballots? What do you see the 682 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: mess that they want? They wanted to be a mess. 683 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: It's the only way they're gonna win. It's the only 684 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: way they can win is to cheat, in my opinion, 685 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: So that sounds that sounds See, football is a much 686 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: nicer a much more genteel sport than politics, I can 687 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: tell you, but I really believe that they want to 688 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: do that. I know they want to do they want 689 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: to make it a mess. But what happened. I saw 690 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: the ad and that's actually what got me into gear 691 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: because I said, oh, edny minute, I wanted to happen, 692 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: but I really didn't think about getting involved. When I 693 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: saw the end, I said, let's get involved to get 694 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: it open. So that add is one of the reasons 695 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: I got it open, because I just wanted to show 696 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: that this was that was such a dirty thing to do. 697 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: And uh, when everyone I was publicly record, as you know, 698 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: Clay saying, you know you guys want to get to 699 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: play and it, but you said it on my show. 700 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: That's why who doesn't even pay much attention to politics? 701 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: She said, wait a minute. The president came on your 702 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: show last month before the big ten in the Pack 703 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: twelve shut down. Instead, it would be a tragic mistake 704 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: if they didn't play, and then they blamed you for 705 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: the for the games not being played. Absolutely, it's a hud. 706 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: And tell your wife I appreciate her good memory because 707 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: some people don't remember so well. Your wife has the memory. 708 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: You probably don't remember it, and she does and so 709 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: your marriage, yeah, you know how marriage goes. She remembers 710 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: everything I've ever done. It's not perfect, but it was 711 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: such a bad it was so egregious and it was terrible. 712 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: And because of that, I actually activated and and we 713 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: got it done. So I'm very happy. A lot of 714 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: people are really happy about it. I was gonna tell 715 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: you this last time when you came on, but you 716 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: came on in August and my nine year old son 717 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: when I said, hey, you know, the President is going 718 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: to come on Dad's radio show. I swear to god 719 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: President Trump, the first thing he said was, wow, he 720 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: knows Vince mcmah And that was his reaction. When the 721 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: president is going to come on the radio show. He's 722 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: such a w W E fan and his first reaction, 723 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you can share that with Vince. That 724 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: the first thought from my nine year old Um when 725 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: you when you look you you mentioned Joe Biden in 726 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: the debate over Big ten football and everything else. How 727 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: excited are you? It's like a big sporting event for 728 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: many people. On September twenty nine, when the first debate happens, 729 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 1: are you prepping how do you get ready? It's almost 730 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: like a sporting event, right, debate is considered in many 731 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: schools to be a sport. How do you prep who's 732 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: playing the role of Joe Biden in the White House? 733 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: What's that experience like, And how's it different to be 734 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: prepping as a president as opposed to a contender when 735 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: you were doing it last time against Hillary. Well, I 736 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: think in many ways it could be easier. But they'll 737 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: make up stories like they did about Big ten and 738 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: other things, and you know, they can hit you with 739 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: different kinds of things. But we've done oh well, I 740 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: mean until this pandemic came, and we had the greatest 741 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: economy in the history of our country, and now we're 742 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: building it back to a point where we're gonna have 743 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: it again. All the states that you just mentioned had 744 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: the best economy they've ever had last year, and now 745 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: it's heading back to that again. You know, the stock 746 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: markets doing great, a lot of things are doing great, 747 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: and we're and we have vaccines coming very shortly. I 748 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: mean literally in a matter of weeks, we're gonna have 749 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: vaccines coming. So I really think that, uh, I think 750 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: I think it would be a little bit easier I 751 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: think I can't tell you who's going to show up 752 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: with Joe because i've seen him where he's grossly incompetent 753 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: that i've seen seen him where he's sort of normal. 754 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: Like against Bernie, he debated normally. I don't know what 755 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: he did, but he debated normally. But I've watched some 756 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: of the other debates where he had the large number 757 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: of Democrats, and I mean, he couldn't he couldn't put 758 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: three words together. It was terrible. So I don't know, 759 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know who's going to show up, 760 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: do you. I saw what you said you would show 761 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: up for Joe Rogan if he did a he suggested 762 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: a four hour debate between you and Joe Biden. How 763 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: do you think it would go if Joe Biden and 764 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: you showed up for a four hour debate with Joe Rogan. Well, 765 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: it was sort of done in jest at all, but 766 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: I would. I mean, I think it's good. I think 767 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: Joe has to be exposed and we'll see. Look with me, 768 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: you know what you have, and we've done incredible deals 769 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: with the even Big ten. I got Big ten. No 770 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: other president would have gotten involved in that. As an example, 771 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: there's no other president play that would have you understand 772 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: that they would have Can you imagine Obama wouldn't have 773 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: done it, just wouldn't have done it, and it just 774 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: is not in the makeup and they can you imagine 775 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: Biden doing it. He's a low energy person. I used 776 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: to call Jeb Bush low energy, but I mean, if 777 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: you compare the two, Jeb is extraordinarily energetic compared to 778 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: sleepy Joe. So you know, I mean, Joe is not 779 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: going to be doing that kind of stuff. And it's 780 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: sort of fun because you know, I have this platform, 781 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: and it's it's sort of easy to do when you 782 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: have we have this great platform. You're president of the 783 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: United States. We hear that football all over these incredible 784 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: states and all of the people that are affected by it, everybody, 785 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: even in the stands of people that work their stands, everybody, 786 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: so many people, so many jobs, so many everything. And 787 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: you have this platform and you go out and you 788 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: use it and you use it for good. But I 789 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people would do that, And 790 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, if they did it, 791 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: they wouldn't know how to do it. I think you're right, 792 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's crazy to me that you get criticized 793 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: for getting football back, right. I mean, like some of 794 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: the media out there, they're upset because you got it back. 795 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: And this goes to my mom. I mentioned my my 796 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: wife earlier, but she said, hey, make sure you tell 797 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: the president this for me. So she's a big supporter. 798 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: Um and uh. And she said the other day, you 799 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: know if President Trump went out on a boat, uh 800 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: and uh. And you know, somebody's hat blew off, and 801 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: he stepped out of the boat, walked on water and 802 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: picked up the hat and brought it back to the 803 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: to the fisherman. Uh. The New York Times front page 804 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: would say that Trump can't swim. So, you know, it's 805 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: funny kind of the way sometimes the media plays like 806 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: you bring football back and are mad about it. Well, 807 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I have. The vaccine is way ahead 808 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: of schedule. And now I'm being criticized on the vaccine 809 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: because they're petrified that the vaccine comes in, you know, 810 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: before the election. And I view it differently. I view 811 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: it like, we're gonna save lives. It's you know, I 812 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great vaccine and we're going 813 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: to save lives. Many great companies really close and probably 814 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: have it, and they're in tests right now. But I'm 815 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: being criticized for bringing it back too fast. And one 816 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: of the doctors said, you know, it's a crazy world politics. 817 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to get a vaccine as fast as possible. 818 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: President Trump gets it ready fast, and they're criticizing them. 819 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's wild. Do you expect a vaccine to 820 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: be ready before the election by late October Halloween? It 821 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: could be Uh, it will be right there. I mean, 822 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: it's right in that vicinity before a little or just 823 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: shortly after, which is years ahead of schedule. You know, 824 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: if you look at if you look at what was 825 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: going on with vaccines, there was no chance if you 826 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: go back to another administration, and I'm not just talking 827 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: about Obama, if you go back to another administration, play 828 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: there's no chance that this would have been to three 829 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: or four years. Because I've energized the FDA and we're 830 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: proving things faster and safely. It's all it has to 831 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: be under present safe. But I've energized the FDA, which 832 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: would have taken to three years, and we're going to 833 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: have something in a matter of weeks. But it's amazing. 834 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: This never happened until a few weeks ago when they 835 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: started criticizing the whole concept of this vaccine only because 836 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: I did it. If it wasn't me, it was somebody else, 837 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: they'd say, Oh, this is unbelievable. The vaccine is going 838 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: to be here so early. Uh, and it's people are 839 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: very aware of what's going on. They see what's happening. 840 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: This is all done by the Democrats. Are very upset 841 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: that we've done such a good job with a vaccine. 842 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: They're very upset that we've done such a great job 843 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: with like the ventilators, when you had no ventilators that 844 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we started producing. You know, we've 845 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,479 Speaker 1: done a good job in the COVID. This was given 846 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: to us by China. Shouldn't have happened. Should have never happened. 847 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: They stopped it from coming into China, but they let 848 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: it go to the world. The whole world is suffering 849 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: because of it. It's a disgrace. But we've done a 850 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: great job. But the new thing is the vaccine. And 851 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: they're very very they're very angry, and you should they 852 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: should be happy because we're talking about saving a lot 853 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: of lives. But that's the world of politics, lay one 854 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: of the world of politics. That's crazy to me, speaking 855 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: of the way that the media has covered the coronavirus 856 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: in general, um is they have praised Andrew Cuomo, who 857 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: statistically has the worst death rate in the world President Trump. 858 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not that he's writing a book about 859 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: what a good job he did. You look at other 860 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: states Florida, Arizona, Texas Republican governors, They've all done far 861 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: better from a per capita perspective, and you would think 862 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: that those guys have done awful jobs. All that matters 863 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: is the difference between Republican and Democrat. I look at 864 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: it like it's a scoreboard, like let's use data and 865 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: actually use it. Like. It's wild to me that Andrew 866 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: Cuomo is considered to be like the greatest governor in 867 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: the history mankind. When you look at his record, it's 868 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: it's awful. Yeah, he had a hard time. He had 869 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: a hard time, and I mean I can tell you 870 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: the story. I know the story better than anybody. I 871 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: won't say it, but I thought he definitely had a 872 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: hard time. A lot of people died, unfortunately, and one 873 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: of the decisions, obviously was the nursing home, which I 874 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: think needs to get looked into. But that seems to 875 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: be a huge part of this is a huge majority 876 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: of the deaths in many countries are coming out of 877 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: nursing homes, and nearly fifty in the United States, and 878 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: it's only point six percent of the population. Right, we 879 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: have the nursing home. Look. It affects elderly people, especially 880 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: if you have a heart problem or diabetes in particular, 881 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: but other things too. But it turned out that they're 882 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: vulnerable and young kids, if you have kids, I mean, 883 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: it's incredible. Their immune system is stronger. Who would have thought, 884 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: and the younger the better. But they have statistics where 885 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: a certain state had many thousands of death, thousands of 886 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: and not one death under eight think of it. Not one. 887 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: Now my three kids are all back in school, which 888 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: is why I've been arguing, we need sports, we need 889 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: people back at work, and all three of my kids 890 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: are back in person schooling, and I think that's important. 891 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and thank you for helping to make that happen. 892 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: Question for you, and this is a little bit interesting. 893 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, in the grand scheme of things, Kim 894 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: Jong un, there's been all sorts of questions about what's 895 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: going on in North Korea, and I'm curious what you 896 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: think about his health. But also roar is that he 897 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: is a big American sports fan, that he loved the 898 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls, Dennis Rodman, Michael Jordan's. Have you ever talked 899 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: with Kim Jong n about the nineties Bulls and what 900 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: did he say? What kind of conversation did you? Guy 901 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 1: really does like Dennis Rudman. I will tell you it's 902 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: it's sort of great. I always said Dennis would be 903 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: better than some of these stiffs that they used to 904 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: send over to get to know him. And they send 905 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: these people over and they went to Harvard and they 906 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: are great students and great everything, but they have no 907 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: chemistry whatsoever. He really did like Dennis Rodman. Dennis good 908 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: guy too, And they said, uh, we should maybe use 909 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: him instead of somebody that graduated number one at Harvard. 910 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we should use Dennis. I thought about that, but 911 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: we have I have a very good relationship with him. 912 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: He does love basketball and he really does like Dennis. Uh. 913 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: And so I always thought, like, man, if you could 914 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: just bring him over here to go meet Michael Jordan's, 915 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: like we might be able to get a great piece 916 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: of cord, not to be based on how much he 917 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: loved the bulls. Well, we've done well, we have a 918 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: good relationship, and frankly, nothing's happened. If Hillary would have 919 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: gotten in, or if you had a longer term Obama, 920 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: you would have been in a war with them as 921 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: sure as you're sitting there, and you would have had 922 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: a war that would have been a really bad one, 923 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: a lot of nuclear weapons, a lot of bad things 924 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: would have happened. And we're right now. Just hey, whatever 925 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: happened to that war, right and I have a relationship. 926 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I mean, I'm not saying we 927 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: did a great thing the other day with Israel. With 928 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: Israel and Bahrain, you saw a new a And that's 929 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: just the beginning. We have a lot of other countries 930 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: that want to sign into that. You'll end up in 931 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East. And people are even the 932 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: New York Times is giving that one Rave reviews, which 933 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: is shocking. They said, if you moved the embassy to Jerusalem, 934 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: everything would fall apart. Instead, it seems like it might. 935 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: It might actually have helped in a major way, which 936 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: is a counterintuitive. Um. The last couple of questions for 937 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: you here. Did you watch Tom Brady at all play 938 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I did, I watched, But 939 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: football's way down. Ratings was way down because people are 940 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: not going to stand for this stuff anymore. Well, were 941 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 1: there not respecting our flag and our national anthem? They're 942 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: just not going to stand for Ratings were way down. 943 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: I did watch Tom, and I like Tom a lot, 944 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: and I think he'll be fine. It was, you know, 945 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: I guess it was a break in game. The other 946 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: team is a good team, good quarterback. Uh and uh, 947 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: it was an interesting game. What did you think? I 948 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: don't you know. I think the big it's like a divorce, 949 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: right Belichick and Brady, and which one's going to have 950 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: a better post divorced life? And I liked the way 951 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: that Cam played for the Patriots in Belichick. And if 952 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: you were buying stock in Belichick right now or in 953 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: Brady right now for this season, which one do you 954 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: think is the better buy? Well, they're friends of mine, 955 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, he's some coach. He's 956 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: a very good friend of mine, and he's tough, and 957 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: he endorsed me, and you know, he endorsed me the 958 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: first time too, and he said he, I mean, you 959 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: know some people don't want to get involved, Okay, they 960 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: just so he doesn't care. He couldn't care less. He 961 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: wants to do whatever's right. He's a tough guy, and 962 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: and he's just a great Coach's remember when he said 963 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: the field goal against Atlantic, go for the field goal. 964 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: They were getting killed. They had a chance for a 965 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: touchdown or a field goal, and he kicked the field 966 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: goal and school like seven to three down. Yeah, yeah, 967 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: and he kicks a field goal, And I said, geez, 968 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: that's not a good decision. It tended up to be 969 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: a perfect decision because they had what tied and then 970 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: they ended up winning the game. If he doesn't have 971 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: that field god, now maybe they would have been a 972 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: touch ten. You know, who knows what happens. But there's 973 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: a case where you would have said that's too conservative, right, 974 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: And but he is a great coach. I've watched him 975 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: win games that other coaches just wouldn't win. But he's 976 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: a great guy too, no doubt. Last question for you, 977 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: does it seem as crazy to you as it does 978 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: too many people in my audience that for high school 979 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: football in particular, you've helped to get the Big ten back. 980 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: We may end up with Pack twelve playing Mountain West. 981 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: Other conferences could be coming back. But if you look 982 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 1: at the data in different states for high school kids, 983 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: whether they have a Democrat governor or a Republican governor, 984 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: in many respects seems to be deciding whether high school 985 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: kids should be able to play football or sports in 986 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: the fall. In general, should it kids be able to 987 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: play sports regardless of whether the governor is a Democrat 988 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: or Republican. Well, it's too bad, it has to be 989 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: that way. But if you look at these states with 990 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: high crime, they're run by democrats. You look at the 991 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: cities with high crime, they're run by democrats. And the 992 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: Democrats tell you what their philosophy they're not working too well, 993 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 1: and certainly their philosophies on law and order are working 994 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: very badly. You look at all of the places that 995 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: have problems. Uh, you know Portland, Look at that, it's 996 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: run by these radical left Democrats. It's a disaster. We 997 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: go and I could fix that up in half an hour. 998 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: We'll send in the National Guard. They have to ask us, 999 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: it has to be requested. But but all of these 1000 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: places are run by liberal Democrats, and so I don't know. 1001 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: It's sort of it should be easy. We're going to 1002 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: find out whether or not people agree with me. Last question, 1003 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: did you tell my producer Danny g that he deserved 1004 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: a raise when you called last time? Absolutely? I said, 1005 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: you got the president, but you really do. You have 1006 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: a great show and he's a nice guy. But I said, 1007 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: you got the president of the phone. You deserve a raise. 1008 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: I haven't done too many of these calls lately. I 1009 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: appreciate it, sir. We'd love to have you back on 1010 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: anytime you want to come on. Keep doing good work, 1011 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: and thanks for the work you did for the Big Ten. 1012 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Like everyone, have a good time. 1013 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. That is the President of the United States, 1014 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump.