1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:30,668 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio Football. Welcome to Good Morning Football. Oh Kyle, 3 00:00:30,788 --> 00:00:33,948 Speaker 1: A young terror read in a red convertible digging Viva 4 00:00:34,748 --> 00:00:38,148 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. That's where it's all happening, the center of 5 00:00:38,268 --> 00:00:41,948 Speaker 1: our university week with green toenails too. We get some 6 00:00:42,028 --> 00:00:45,348 Speaker 1: pain on them. Yeah, that's it. That's what we're doing 7 00:00:45,388 --> 00:00:48,108 Speaker 1: this week. It is It's Vegas. It's the NFL twenty 8 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:51,108 Speaker 1: twenty two Draft, presented by Verizon. You know, Kyle, I 9 00:00:51,148 --> 00:00:53,388 Speaker 1: saw your Monica Potter and con aaron I raised you 10 00:00:53,588 --> 00:00:56,588 Speaker 1: terror read in the Bigelbowski. Welcome to Good Morning Football. 11 00:00:56,668 --> 00:00:58,908 Speaker 1: We are presented by Ram Trucks. We are so excited 12 00:00:58,908 --> 00:01:01,308 Speaker 1: as a party here with Kyle and Matt Castle, who's 13 00:01:01,308 --> 00:01:05,508 Speaker 1: back all week? And look Resident General Andrew Scott Pioli. 14 00:01:05,908 --> 00:01:12,468 Speaker 1: What's up, Scotts Polioli. It's up, bread Rock. Let's do 15 00:01:12,508 --> 00:01:15,788 Speaker 1: this draft. I mean we're coming in hot today, exciting 16 00:01:15,868 --> 00:01:18,708 Speaker 1: two days away. Take me inside a front office. What 17 00:01:18,748 --> 00:01:22,108 Speaker 1: are you doing this morning, Kate? Right now is you're 18 00:01:22,188 --> 00:01:24,508 Speaker 1: trying to calm down right, There's been so much going on. 19 00:01:24,548 --> 00:01:27,348 Speaker 1: You spend so much time with the evaluation process. The 20 00:01:27,468 --> 00:01:29,948 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks really is about the strategy, not 21 00:01:29,988 --> 00:01:32,748 Speaker 1: the evaluation. There's two separate parts of the draft. So 22 00:01:32,828 --> 00:01:35,428 Speaker 1: you're making calls, you're receiving calls. You're trying to get 23 00:01:35,468 --> 00:01:37,708 Speaker 1: a bit of a better lay of the land as 24 00:01:37,788 --> 00:01:40,988 Speaker 1: how the thing might unfold. Because everyone thinks that they 25 00:01:40,988 --> 00:01:43,428 Speaker 1: know what's going on in someone else's draft room, they don't. 26 00:01:43,508 --> 00:01:46,908 Speaker 1: And you're relying on friends to give you enough truth 27 00:01:47,468 --> 00:01:49,268 Speaker 1: but not too much of an answer, because if they're 28 00:01:49,268 --> 00:01:50,788 Speaker 1: giving you too much of an answer, they're probably not 29 00:01:50,788 --> 00:01:54,028 Speaker 1: telling you the truth. So this is an interesting time 30 00:01:54,028 --> 00:01:56,068 Speaker 1: just to be strategued. We would be doing that. I'd 31 00:01:56,108 --> 00:01:58,828 Speaker 1: be getting the snacks, Twizzlers, Cheetos, all of that, Kyle 32 00:01:58,948 --> 00:02:00,588 Speaker 1: being a liquor aisle. We've been good here. It's a 33 00:02:00,628 --> 00:02:02,228 Speaker 1: good team and you're in the face of the operation. 34 00:02:02,668 --> 00:02:06,948 Speaker 1: It would be great. I'm just gonna hang out. We're 35 00:02:06,948 --> 00:02:09,068 Speaker 1: gonna go through some draft scenarios. We have a mock 36 00:02:09,148 --> 00:02:10,708 Speaker 1: draft on the show, but for now, it's time for 37 00:02:10,748 --> 00:02:13,628 Speaker 1: the lead black block in that red corvette with the 38 00:02:13,668 --> 00:02:15,668 Speaker 1: greenhail polish. We had to Vegas to talk to Tom 39 00:02:15,708 --> 00:02:18,348 Speaker 1: Pella Sero, setting a scene for us just two days away. 40 00:02:18,748 --> 00:02:21,668 Speaker 1: A beautiful site the Bellagio found hopefully will catch them 41 00:02:21,668 --> 00:02:23,868 Speaker 1: on one of these look ins here. But what is 42 00:02:23,868 --> 00:02:29,748 Speaker 1: the latest as prospects get closer to Thursday night? Okay, 43 00:02:29,748 --> 00:02:31,748 Speaker 1: I'd first like to mention that, based on the smell 44 00:02:31,828 --> 00:02:34,188 Speaker 1: that just wafted through here, somebody on the balcony above 45 00:02:34,228 --> 00:02:35,908 Speaker 1: or below me is having a lot better time than 46 00:02:35,948 --> 00:02:39,348 Speaker 1: I am. Right now, the prospects, their families, their agents 47 00:02:39,348 --> 00:02:42,868 Speaker 1: have begun to descend here upon Las Vegas, twenty of 48 00:02:42,908 --> 00:02:46,268 Speaker 1: them that will be attending the draft starting on Thursday night. Really, 49 00:02:46,308 --> 00:02:49,428 Speaker 1: their draft week kicks off tonight with a welcome reception. 50 00:02:49,548 --> 00:02:52,188 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, they'll do a youth football clinic for some 51 00:02:52,268 --> 00:02:56,188 Speaker 1: local kids. They will also be packing care Kids for Safeness, 52 00:02:56,188 --> 00:02:59,868 Speaker 1: which is a local organization for survivors of abuse. Then 53 00:02:59,868 --> 00:03:03,868 Speaker 1: on Thursday morning, breakfast with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. Maybe 54 00:03:03,868 --> 00:03:05,748 Speaker 1: they can rehear some of the hugs, make sure that 55 00:03:05,788 --> 00:03:08,828 Speaker 1: nobody gets injured on the stage. All the fun begins 56 00:03:08,868 --> 00:03:12,708 Speaker 1: in earnest round one right there behind me on Thursday night. Guys, 57 00:03:13,628 --> 00:03:15,788 Speaker 1: what's it called Thomas smell vision? I wish we had 58 00:03:15,828 --> 00:03:18,268 Speaker 1: that right now, so we can enjoy what you're enjoying. 59 00:03:18,508 --> 00:03:20,748 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I know you've been trying to pick 60 00:03:20,828 --> 00:03:22,548 Speaker 1: up the scent coming off the forty nine Ers right 61 00:03:22,588 --> 00:03:25,108 Speaker 1: now where they're going. John Lynch spoke to the media yesterday. 62 00:03:26,028 --> 00:03:28,948 Speaker 1: What did Captain America have to say about Deebo Samuel's 63 00:03:28,948 --> 00:03:33,828 Speaker 1: trade request? Where are we? What John Lynch had to 64 00:03:33,868 --> 00:03:37,148 Speaker 1: say was that he can't ever imagine trading Deebo Samuel. 65 00:03:37,268 --> 00:03:40,268 Speaker 1: He's just too good of a player that meshes with 66 00:03:40,308 --> 00:03:43,708 Speaker 1: what other people who know John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan believe, 67 00:03:43,788 --> 00:03:47,148 Speaker 1: which is the forty nine Ers will not trade Deebo Samuel, 68 00:03:47,188 --> 00:03:50,188 Speaker 1: will have no interest in trading Deebo Samuel. But what 69 00:03:50,308 --> 00:03:53,268 Speaker 1: we also know is the Deebo Samuel wants out. He 70 00:03:53,308 --> 00:03:55,908 Speaker 1: has refused to engage in contract negotiation with the forty 71 00:03:55,988 --> 00:03:57,588 Speaker 1: nine Ers. There are a lot of factors in that 72 00:03:57,668 --> 00:04:00,388 Speaker 1: Debo is not spoken to it. Among them in is 73 00:04:00,468 --> 00:04:02,708 Speaker 1: his role and the number of hits that he takes. 74 00:04:02,828 --> 00:04:05,028 Speaker 1: Is both a running back and a wider receiver in 75 00:04:05,068 --> 00:04:08,668 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers offense, And virtually every player in 76 00:04:08,708 --> 00:04:12,548 Speaker 1: the NFL is available for some price. Does some team 77 00:04:12,908 --> 00:04:15,348 Speaker 1: step up and offer that price? To the forty nine 78 00:04:15,428 --> 00:04:18,468 Speaker 1: ers if they're going to Ideally, this really would happen 79 00:04:18,548 --> 00:04:21,348 Speaker 1: sometime in the next twenty four hours, enough time for 80 00:04:21,468 --> 00:04:24,428 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel to work out a new contract, to also 81 00:04:24,508 --> 00:04:27,468 Speaker 1: take a physical and everything before you get to Thursday night, 82 00:04:27,508 --> 00:04:30,268 Speaker 1: because you would have draft picks exchanging hands. Meanwhile, a 83 00:04:30,268 --> 00:04:32,628 Speaker 1: couple other forty nine ers notes Nick Bosa's fifty year 84 00:04:32,668 --> 00:04:35,828 Speaker 1: option officially picked up. No surprise there, and Lynch also 85 00:04:35,868 --> 00:04:39,148 Speaker 1: said Jimmy Garoppolo should be throwing by the end of 86 00:04:39,268 --> 00:04:41,868 Speaker 1: June coming off of that shoulder surgery. And Lynch said 87 00:04:41,908 --> 00:04:45,548 Speaker 1: there is a scenario in which Garoppolo is on the 88 00:04:45,668 --> 00:04:49,148 Speaker 1: roster for his full twenty five million and change come 89 00:04:49,228 --> 00:04:52,508 Speaker 1: this fall. Guys, appreciate you, Tom Pede, go and enjoy. 90 00:04:53,188 --> 00:04:56,268 Speaker 1: We'll be in contact with each other will later on 91 00:04:56,388 --> 00:04:59,108 Speaker 1: throughout the program. Now let's stay right here in New York, gentlemen, 92 00:04:59,228 --> 00:05:02,268 Speaker 1: the Jets have some crucial dare I say, Kyle Pivotle 93 00:05:02,308 --> 00:05:05,188 Speaker 1: picks on Thursday Night in the time ten four picks 94 00:05:05,188 --> 00:05:07,188 Speaker 1: in the top forty. Actually, they need to add some 95 00:05:07,348 --> 00:05:10,308 Speaker 1: premium talent in the draft. And if you're thinking, well, 96 00:05:10,308 --> 00:05:13,188 Speaker 1: what's up with a quarterback? Situation. Come on, General manager 97 00:05:13,268 --> 00:05:20,068 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has that taken care of greatness. And I 98 00:05:20,148 --> 00:05:23,508 Speaker 1: see a young quarterback that really went through the ringer 99 00:05:23,548 --> 00:05:26,948 Speaker 1: to start the year. Seeing that, seeing his resiliency, his 100 00:05:27,308 --> 00:05:30,788 Speaker 1: perseverance through that and keeping it all together, it gives 101 00:05:30,788 --> 00:05:35,228 Speaker 1: you a lot of hope, a lot of hope here 102 00:05:35,228 --> 00:05:37,068 Speaker 1: in New York that the Jets can start stacking some 103 00:05:37,148 --> 00:05:39,228 Speaker 1: wins there. We want, I mean, Kyle and I want 104 00:05:39,268 --> 00:05:41,788 Speaker 1: this to happen. Come on from New York. We sort 105 00:05:41,788 --> 00:05:44,348 Speaker 1: of embraced New York, the state that East Coast in general. 106 00:05:44,428 --> 00:05:46,748 Speaker 1: Let's go. I know it's in Jersey. Calm down, all right. 107 00:05:46,788 --> 00:05:48,548 Speaker 1: They have the fourth and tenth overall picks. They could 108 00:05:48,588 --> 00:05:50,948 Speaker 1: add a couple players that can make that instant impact 109 00:05:50,988 --> 00:05:53,028 Speaker 1: that we'd like to see this season. When we start 110 00:05:53,068 --> 00:05:56,068 Speaker 1: the show Friday morning, guys, and we are evaluating and 111 00:05:56,108 --> 00:05:58,708 Speaker 1: grading the team picks like everybody does. What would an 112 00:05:58,748 --> 00:06:01,428 Speaker 1: a plus round for the Jets look like Peeley to me, 113 00:06:01,668 --> 00:06:04,588 Speaker 1: it's getting a pass rusher at number four, right, it's 114 00:06:04,588 --> 00:06:06,628 Speaker 1: such a quarterback driven league. Get a pass rush a 115 00:06:06,628 --> 00:06:09,428 Speaker 1: guy that can apply pressure. But then at number ten, 116 00:06:09,908 --> 00:06:12,228 Speaker 1: move back just a little bit and collect some more 117 00:06:12,308 --> 00:06:14,988 Speaker 1: draft currency, because the Jets have more than just a 118 00:06:15,028 --> 00:06:17,028 Speaker 1: couple of holes to fill. So if you get a 119 00:06:17,108 --> 00:06:20,468 Speaker 1: dynamic pass russure, but then again move back not too 120 00:06:20,468 --> 00:06:23,388 Speaker 1: far because where the other needs are the positions where 121 00:06:23,428 --> 00:06:26,068 Speaker 1: they needed wide receiver, offensive line. I think that they 122 00:06:26,068 --> 00:06:28,548 Speaker 1: could get a good player in the teams, but again 123 00:06:28,588 --> 00:06:31,148 Speaker 1: to collect more draft currency, not only for this year, 124 00:06:31,308 --> 00:06:33,788 Speaker 1: but maybe they can move back just a little bit 125 00:06:33,948 --> 00:06:35,788 Speaker 1: and get a one or two for next year. So 126 00:06:35,868 --> 00:06:38,268 Speaker 1: that to me, that would be an outstanding start for 127 00:06:38,308 --> 00:06:40,508 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. I love it, And I also 128 00:06:40,548 --> 00:06:43,068 Speaker 1: think that, you know, you definitely have the edge, but 129 00:06:43,188 --> 00:06:45,308 Speaker 1: I think cornerbacks of a position that they have to 130 00:06:45,308 --> 00:06:47,828 Speaker 1: address immediately because they've got a young secondary. They've got 131 00:06:47,828 --> 00:06:50,068 Speaker 1: four picks in the first two rounds, right, so when 132 00:06:50,108 --> 00:06:53,028 Speaker 1: you're talking about the first pick, I'd go with sas Gardner. 133 00:06:53,068 --> 00:06:54,988 Speaker 1: I love him. He's a shutdown corner. He's a guy 134 00:06:55,028 --> 00:06:57,308 Speaker 1: that can play, you know, man de man shut down 135 00:06:57,308 --> 00:06:58,988 Speaker 1: a half of the field match up on either one 136 00:06:59,028 --> 00:07:01,468 Speaker 1: on one receivers. And in this league and especially their 137 00:07:01,468 --> 00:07:04,588 Speaker 1: division with Miami and with Buffalo, the guys that they 138 00:07:04,628 --> 00:07:07,228 Speaker 1: have out there, they're gonna need that cornerback play. In 139 00:07:07,268 --> 00:07:10,228 Speaker 1: addition to that, I like Jermaine Johnson at ten because 140 00:07:10,268 --> 00:07:12,988 Speaker 1: I think that the top guys are gonna be gone. 141 00:07:13,188 --> 00:07:15,428 Speaker 1: But then you address the wide receiver position in the 142 00:07:15,428 --> 00:07:17,748 Speaker 1: old line in the second round, because again they have 143 00:07:17,788 --> 00:07:20,508 Speaker 1: two picks there. So I just think that that they've 144 00:07:20,548 --> 00:07:22,828 Speaker 1: got to hit way. But I think defense all the 145 00:07:22,828 --> 00:07:25,068 Speaker 1: way for Robert Slow, the way that he wants to 146 00:07:25,108 --> 00:07:27,468 Speaker 1: play that game. You saw it with the forty nine ers. 147 00:07:27,468 --> 00:07:30,828 Speaker 1: It starts with Chris front four. Everything's on the table. 148 00:07:30,908 --> 00:07:34,188 Speaker 1: We're talking about all defense. Scott very creative to trade 149 00:07:34,188 --> 00:07:37,188 Speaker 1: back and very pragmatic. I think that the Jets fan 150 00:07:37,268 --> 00:07:40,308 Speaker 1: base has just decided, like Sauce, are we riot, Like 151 00:07:40,348 --> 00:07:42,548 Speaker 1: we have to have this guy's and Rich Eisen has 152 00:07:42,588 --> 00:07:44,788 Speaker 1: been a huge part of that, like Sauce sauce software. 153 00:07:44,868 --> 00:07:46,908 Speaker 1: So if you're talking about the best case scenario, I 154 00:07:46,948 --> 00:07:49,628 Speaker 1: think they do get Sauce Gardner and listen, they got 155 00:07:49,748 --> 00:07:51,908 Speaker 1: to go against the fun Diggs. They gotta go against 156 00:07:51,908 --> 00:07:54,268 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill like they have to go against those guys 157 00:07:54,268 --> 00:07:56,268 Speaker 1: for a long time, a long time, and who knows 158 00:07:56,268 --> 00:07:59,028 Speaker 1: what New England's gonna do. Bring in a Cornery if 159 00:07:59,068 --> 00:08:00,388 Speaker 1: that guy is half as good as they say, it 160 00:08:00,428 --> 00:08:02,308 Speaker 1: can't go wrong. And number ten, this is we're talking 161 00:08:02,388 --> 00:08:04,788 Speaker 1: best case scenario is we can just wave want and 162 00:08:04,868 --> 00:08:06,948 Speaker 1: number ten they trade for Deebo Samuel and they end 163 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:08,548 Speaker 1: up in the draft, and the next headline the next 164 00:08:08,588 --> 00:08:10,548 Speaker 1: on the New York Course the next day is Sauce 165 00:08:10,628 --> 00:08:13,508 Speaker 1: and Debo. Let's roll. That's the best case scenario. But 166 00:08:13,508 --> 00:08:15,348 Speaker 1: I do actually kind of want to flip this for 167 00:08:15,348 --> 00:08:17,668 Speaker 1: one seconds because it's New York Jets and it's draft week. 168 00:08:17,868 --> 00:08:20,348 Speaker 1: I'm also kind of entertaining the worst case scenario. What 169 00:08:20,348 --> 00:08:23,268 Speaker 1: would be the f minus because so let's just say 170 00:08:23,308 --> 00:08:26,228 Speaker 1: it for like, because he was like, what would be 171 00:08:26,268 --> 00:08:28,908 Speaker 1: the Jets fans Nightmat four and they say we're gonna 172 00:08:28,948 --> 00:08:30,468 Speaker 1: shock the world and we're gonna build a defense and 173 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:33,228 Speaker 1: we're gonna draft Devin Lloyd the linebacker, and the Jets 174 00:08:33,228 --> 00:08:35,108 Speaker 1: fans lose their mind. And then what I like about 175 00:08:35,108 --> 00:08:37,868 Speaker 1: this is that then they have about forty five minutes 176 00:08:37,908 --> 00:08:41,108 Speaker 1: to fester before they get to the ten pick, and 177 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:43,348 Speaker 1: I have videotape to think. I think this one might 178 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:45,108 Speaker 1: go if they get to ten, and this is worst 179 00:08:45,148 --> 00:08:47,188 Speaker 1: case Devin Lloyd and if they get up there and 180 00:08:47,308 --> 00:08:49,548 Speaker 1: Roger Goodells. With the tenth pick in the twenty twenty 181 00:08:49,588 --> 00:08:53,468 Speaker 1: two NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Breest Hall, 182 00:08:53,748 --> 00:08:55,908 Speaker 1: running back Iowa State. It's gonna go like this roll 183 00:08:55,988 --> 00:09:06,148 Speaker 1: the boys child rating ladies, chetam on our first real up. Chet. 184 00:09:06,268 --> 00:09:08,588 Speaker 1: I think at this point of the drafts to the 185 00:09:08,588 --> 00:09:18,388 Speaker 1: biggest mock rate I've ever seen down six. I ends 186 00:09:18,428 --> 00:09:27,468 Speaker 1: on the feeling everybody's catching strays boomerous science. I got annihilated. 187 00:09:27,668 --> 00:09:31,508 Speaker 1: I think you need a trade and Roy right now, 188 00:09:31,588 --> 00:09:34,508 Speaker 1: and listen. We're positive in the show, and I hope 189 00:09:34,508 --> 00:09:36,228 Speaker 1: the Jets nail the draft. And I love Big Joe 190 00:09:36,268 --> 00:09:39,668 Speaker 1: and I love Arbat Sala. Don't rule out Jets fans 191 00:09:39,708 --> 00:09:42,988 Speaker 1: disappointment and apoplectic anger after that, because you've seen four 192 00:09:43,148 --> 00:09:45,188 Speaker 1: even when they're happy, I feel like you can play 193 00:09:45,228 --> 00:09:47,948 Speaker 1: that same sound. I've been at Radio City Music Hall 194 00:09:48,028 --> 00:09:50,908 Speaker 1: for those drafts. With those fans, you can do nothing 195 00:09:50,908 --> 00:09:53,428 Speaker 1: to make them happy orbset. That's the reaction that they give. 196 00:09:53,668 --> 00:09:55,948 Speaker 1: I don't see a Kyle Brady the moment for the 197 00:09:56,028 --> 00:09:58,668 Speaker 1: Jets in his draft. They need so much help, being 198 00:09:58,708 --> 00:10:00,588 Speaker 1: so much support that with those two picks in the 199 00:10:00,628 --> 00:10:03,028 Speaker 1: first round, whether the trader. They don't, They're gonna end 200 00:10:03,108 --> 00:10:05,148 Speaker 1: up walking. I can't see even if they get Stingy 201 00:10:05,228 --> 00:10:08,668 Speaker 1: and then they get Jamison as a wide receiver because 202 00:10:08,668 --> 00:10:11,548 Speaker 1: they need to support them to support Zach Wilson. I 203 00:10:11,588 --> 00:10:13,268 Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know that we're going to 204 00:10:13,308 --> 00:10:15,268 Speaker 1: walk away. This is one of those teams that isn't 205 00:10:15,308 --> 00:10:17,388 Speaker 1: going to have an F. I don't see them having 206 00:10:17,388 --> 00:10:18,948 Speaker 1: an F in this one because they need so much help. 207 00:10:19,108 --> 00:10:20,868 Speaker 1: All of those guys are talented, so many holes to 208 00:10:20,908 --> 00:10:22,468 Speaker 1: field they kind of can't miss, even though we don't 209 00:10:22,468 --> 00:10:24,228 Speaker 1: know where they're going to take. But Billy, I want 210 00:10:24,228 --> 00:10:25,748 Speaker 1: to go back to you. Do you think the Jets 211 00:10:25,788 --> 00:10:28,668 Speaker 1: should trade for Deebo Samuel? Real quick? I want to 212 00:10:28,668 --> 00:10:30,228 Speaker 1: go back here at the point you're making here and 213 00:10:30,268 --> 00:10:32,988 Speaker 1: everyone said this, they need so much so that's why 214 00:10:33,028 --> 00:10:35,828 Speaker 1: collecting additional currency. Moving back just a little bit, and 215 00:10:35,908 --> 00:10:39,268 Speaker 1: the difference between player number ten in this draft and 216 00:10:39,308 --> 00:10:41,588 Speaker 1: player number twenty, there isn't a great game. There's going 217 00:10:41,628 --> 00:10:43,908 Speaker 1: to be a corner and you you're talking about there's 218 00:10:43,948 --> 00:10:45,668 Speaker 1: going to be a good player. So moving back, do 219 00:10:45,748 --> 00:10:49,428 Speaker 1: they go get Deebo Samuel? It wouldn't be a bad idea. 220 00:10:49,948 --> 00:10:52,108 Speaker 1: It really wouldn't. But again, what are you going to 221 00:10:52,188 --> 00:10:53,948 Speaker 1: give up to get that? Now? The other thing is 222 00:10:54,348 --> 00:10:57,468 Speaker 1: will they be able to use Deebo Samuel the way 223 00:10:57,508 --> 00:11:00,228 Speaker 1: that the forty nine ers do? And again everyone sees 224 00:11:00,308 --> 00:11:03,108 Speaker 1: what Deebo Samuel is, But that was part of Kyle 225 00:11:03,148 --> 00:11:06,628 Speaker 1: and Mike McDaniel's brain child. They created that whole idea 226 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:09,748 Speaker 1: and that identity and his ability to have production. So 227 00:11:09,868 --> 00:11:11,748 Speaker 1: to me, just because a player can do something for 228 00:11:11,868 --> 00:11:14,068 Speaker 1: one team doesn't mean that they can do it for 229 00:11:14,148 --> 00:11:17,148 Speaker 1: any other better than anybody, and he must trust his 230 00:11:17,228 --> 00:11:22,308 Speaker 1: oc he would have, Okay, he might, but again, Robert's 231 00:11:22,628 --> 00:11:26,228 Speaker 1: greatest skill is on defense. So you know, I don't 232 00:11:26,228 --> 00:11:34,028 Speaker 1: know the answer to that. But the draft is in 233 00:11:34,068 --> 00:11:36,508 Speaker 1: two days. It's really happening. In the meantime, it is 234 00:11:36,588 --> 00:11:40,428 Speaker 1: time for You're on the clock. It's presented by Progressive Insurance. 235 00:11:40,428 --> 00:11:42,388 Speaker 1: Here's the deal with twenty twenty two drafts. Like I said, 236 00:11:42,428 --> 00:11:44,468 Speaker 1: two days away, we're gonna play out some scenarios, some 237 00:11:44,548 --> 00:11:47,108 Speaker 1: really important scenarios that are actually pretty likely with the 238 00:11:47,188 --> 00:11:49,668 Speaker 1: Lions at the second overall picks. Here's the deal. We're 239 00:11:49,668 --> 00:11:51,868 Speaker 1: gonna go around the table and assign roles in this 240 00:11:51,868 --> 00:11:55,028 Speaker 1: whole equation with the Lions, Scott, you will be eventually 241 00:11:55,148 --> 00:11:59,828 Speaker 1: making the pick playing the role of Lions GM. Brad Holmes. Okay, 242 00:11:59,868 --> 00:12:02,428 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes comes from the Rams organization has been through 243 00:12:02,468 --> 00:12:05,428 Speaker 1: the thing, great players has brought on. That's you. Matt, 244 00:12:06,188 --> 00:12:08,748 Speaker 1: you get to go for the oscar as head coach 245 00:12:08,908 --> 00:12:10,868 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell of the Detroit Lions. How do you feel 246 00:12:10,868 --> 00:12:13,348 Speaker 1: about that assignment? Yea, brother, Yeah, we're ready right now. 247 00:12:13,428 --> 00:12:16,068 Speaker 1: Let's go that is whole COVID and Dan Campbell and 248 00:12:16,108 --> 00:12:18,508 Speaker 1: Matt Cassel and then Kay Adam, you're going to be 249 00:12:18,628 --> 00:12:22,868 Speaker 1: Detroit defensive coordina. I know it's going to be that. Okay, 250 00:12:23,188 --> 00:12:26,028 Speaker 1: you're gonna be Aaron Glen. Aaron Glenn, beloved player matter 251 00:12:26,108 --> 00:12:30,668 Speaker 1: and guy diminutive but very smart. Should be right at 252 00:12:30,708 --> 00:12:33,628 Speaker 1: home for you. Now, let's see who is already off 253 00:12:33,668 --> 00:12:36,028 Speaker 1: the board in this hypothetical draft that we're doing. Remember 254 00:12:36,028 --> 00:12:38,908 Speaker 1: the Lions were at two. Okay, so Trayvon Walker ends 255 00:12:38,948 --> 00:12:41,668 Speaker 1: up being the number one pick to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 256 00:12:41,708 --> 00:12:45,188 Speaker 1: Trent Balki goes with his m of athleticism and upside. 257 00:12:45,228 --> 00:12:48,148 Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson was not drafted, nor was it Yekwanu or 258 00:12:48,188 --> 00:12:51,988 Speaker 1: Evan Neil. We are officially as the Detroit Lions on 259 00:12:52,188 --> 00:12:55,308 Speaker 1: the clock most of the best available players. Now we 260 00:12:55,348 --> 00:12:57,188 Speaker 1: can just jump right into this and make the pick, 261 00:12:57,388 --> 00:13:00,268 Speaker 1: or hopefully in this kind of crazy draft, we get 262 00:13:00,308 --> 00:13:03,828 Speaker 1: some phone calls and maybe some trade offers in the meantime, Sir, 263 00:13:04,388 --> 00:13:06,588 Speaker 1: does the room feel to you right now? What happens 264 00:13:06,668 --> 00:13:08,068 Speaker 1: right now is you have to look at what's on 265 00:13:08,108 --> 00:13:11,388 Speaker 1: the board, and I'm gonna say, Dan and Aaron, we 266 00:13:11,428 --> 00:13:13,548 Speaker 1: have to go defense. Okay, So, which is what we 267 00:13:13,588 --> 00:13:17,028 Speaker 1: talked about in all these other meetings. If we make 268 00:13:17,068 --> 00:13:21,148 Speaker 1: the pick, who's your guy? Adan Hutchinson? His motor never stopped. 269 00:13:21,148 --> 00:13:26,028 Speaker 1: It's right, it never stopped. It's all day long. Kneecap 270 00:13:26,388 --> 00:13:28,548 Speaker 1: I mean he'll bust your kneecaps. He'll get up after 271 00:13:28,548 --> 00:13:31,428 Speaker 1: you get said I love this guy, Well he eat kneecaps. 272 00:13:31,588 --> 00:13:35,388 Speaker 1: He might, and I heard he's a ton leader. I don't. 273 00:13:35,388 --> 00:13:38,628 Speaker 1: We're at three kneecap mentions. But I hope someone paid 274 00:13:38,628 --> 00:13:40,188 Speaker 1: the phone bill because this is usually when we do 275 00:13:40,268 --> 00:13:45,348 Speaker 1: this exercise, only when the phone maybe, oh okay, this 276 00:13:45,468 --> 00:13:49,868 Speaker 1: might be my parrole off who's callings? Whatever you like? 277 00:13:52,628 --> 00:14:00,108 Speaker 1: Lions Detroit. It's the Jets. Joe Douglas here, Gosh, we 278 00:14:00,228 --> 00:14:03,348 Speaker 1: gotta get our hands on this, Hutchinson. He's a sure thing. 279 00:14:03,908 --> 00:14:06,508 Speaker 1: We will trade you the fourth overall pick and the 280 00:14:06,748 --> 00:14:10,748 Speaker 1: sixty ninth overall pick, the fourth and the sixty nine 281 00:14:11,308 --> 00:14:13,908 Speaker 1: to move up two spots to the second. You, guys, 282 00:14:14,348 --> 00:14:15,988 Speaker 1: I don't know who you want to take, but you 283 00:14:16,028 --> 00:14:19,348 Speaker 1: could probably get them at four, and you also would 284 00:14:19,348 --> 00:14:22,628 Speaker 1: get our sixty ninth overall pick. Basically, we're throwing you 285 00:14:22,668 --> 00:14:27,428 Speaker 1: a freebee here, guys, what do you say, Hey, Joe, 286 00:14:27,508 --> 00:14:31,428 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That doesn't sound like Joe. I'm just 287 00:14:31,468 --> 00:14:33,668 Speaker 1: going to say, Lauren Parker code. Here's the deal. The 288 00:14:33,748 --> 00:14:37,148 Speaker 1: Jets get the second overall pick. You gentlemen would be 289 00:14:37,148 --> 00:14:39,908 Speaker 1: getting in the fourth and the sixty nine and mister 290 00:14:40,028 --> 00:14:44,908 Speaker 1: Glenn I forgot so, guys, take it away. What do 291 00:14:44,908 --> 00:14:47,348 Speaker 1: you think? Here's the first thing they told us who 292 00:14:47,388 --> 00:14:50,468 Speaker 1: they're gonna take. They want to take our guy. So 293 00:14:50,548 --> 00:14:52,588 Speaker 1: now we have to think about this. You know, if 294 00:14:52,628 --> 00:14:56,068 Speaker 1: we go back from two to four, our players not there. 295 00:14:56,908 --> 00:14:59,548 Speaker 1: But in return they're only offering pick number sixty nine. 296 00:14:59,868 --> 00:15:02,908 Speaker 1: It's simply not enough. Frankly, I'm insulted. I want to say, 297 00:15:03,268 --> 00:15:05,108 Speaker 1: Glenn will hang out in the You've been into room 298 00:15:05,108 --> 00:15:07,308 Speaker 1: and don't care about this, But the value of Aidan 299 00:15:07,388 --> 00:15:10,068 Speaker 1: Hutchinson as a shirting player. I want the four, and 300 00:15:10,148 --> 00:15:12,588 Speaker 1: I want the ten, and I want his leadership in 301 00:15:12,628 --> 00:15:15,148 Speaker 1: the building. That is the guy that we need to 302 00:15:15,188 --> 00:15:18,428 Speaker 1: help build this program, take us in the right direction. Look, 303 00:15:18,588 --> 00:15:20,308 Speaker 1: he's going to come off the edge and he's going 304 00:15:20,348 --> 00:15:22,828 Speaker 1: to be a dominant pass rusher for us for years 305 00:15:22,868 --> 00:15:25,188 Speaker 1: to come. This is a number two overall pick we're 306 00:15:25,188 --> 00:15:28,028 Speaker 1: talking about. Absolutely, it's just not enough currency. They're not 307 00:15:28,068 --> 00:15:30,548 Speaker 1: giving us enough in return. They're sitting there. They've also 308 00:15:30,588 --> 00:15:36,228 Speaker 1: had in Brad. We have another call. Wow, there's no 309 00:15:36,308 --> 00:15:38,828 Speaker 1: car Idea's the phonus from right eighty six. This has 310 00:15:38,828 --> 00:15:40,828 Speaker 1: got to be better here. We're gonna get something better here, 311 00:15:41,468 --> 00:15:45,588 Speaker 1: Lions Detroit, how you doing? It's the New York Giants 312 00:15:45,788 --> 00:15:50,148 Speaker 1: and new general manager Joe Shane. I want that second 313 00:15:50,148 --> 00:15:52,828 Speaker 1: overall pick. I'm gonna offer you the seventh overall pick. 314 00:15:52,868 --> 00:15:55,028 Speaker 1: But we're also going to give you two veteran players 315 00:15:55,028 --> 00:15:57,508 Speaker 1: that can help you guys right away, which you desperately need. 316 00:15:57,868 --> 00:16:01,548 Speaker 1: How about James Bradberry and Sterling Shepherd in addition to 317 00:16:01,628 --> 00:16:05,388 Speaker 1: the seventh overall pick. For your number two pick, we'd 318 00:16:05,388 --> 00:16:07,068 Speaker 1: have the number two pick in the number five pick. 319 00:16:07,108 --> 00:16:08,908 Speaker 1: We'd feel great there, and we're gonna give you a 320 00:16:08,988 --> 00:16:13,148 Speaker 1: Bradberry and Sterling, two pros and a top ten pick 321 00:16:13,508 --> 00:16:16,708 Speaker 1: for the number two What do you say, Joe, I'm 322 00:16:16,708 --> 00:16:18,668 Speaker 1: gonna give you a holler back? All right? That's this 323 00:16:18,748 --> 00:16:20,508 Speaker 1: is Joe's first draft, is jam so he's coming in 324 00:16:20,588 --> 00:16:23,308 Speaker 1: aggressive a couple of players. All you have to do 325 00:16:23,468 --> 00:16:27,148 Speaker 1: is slide back five selections from the second to the seventh. 326 00:16:27,468 --> 00:16:30,428 Speaker 1: What say you, Detroit Lion franch Trust. Well, here's the person. 327 00:16:30,508 --> 00:16:31,788 Speaker 1: The first thing we have to do is make sure. 328 00:16:31,868 --> 00:16:34,228 Speaker 1: Let's got to research people real quick. To look at 329 00:16:34,268 --> 00:16:37,348 Speaker 1: the contracts for Sheppard and Bradberry. Right, I believe they're 330 00:16:37,388 --> 00:16:39,988 Speaker 1: in the last year of the contract. So really they're 331 00:16:40,028 --> 00:16:42,548 Speaker 1: giving us one pick in two Hamson. Good thing were 332 00:16:42,588 --> 00:16:45,308 Speaker 1: competing in the NFC North. No, we're not. I don't 333 00:16:45,308 --> 00:16:47,468 Speaker 1: want veteran players. I want young players. I don't even 334 00:16:47,508 --> 00:16:49,108 Speaker 1: know that I want our quarterback this year. I don't 335 00:16:49,108 --> 00:16:51,028 Speaker 1: like it. And veteran players that are we only have 336 00:16:51,188 --> 00:16:52,668 Speaker 1: for a year or a year and then we've got 337 00:16:52,668 --> 00:16:54,428 Speaker 1: to pay and then we've got to start all over again. 338 00:16:54,428 --> 00:16:57,708 Speaker 1: They're potentially hit free agency. So yeah, I'm still Aidan 339 00:16:57,788 --> 00:16:59,988 Speaker 1: Hutchinson all the way. Coach, what do you think Ayan 340 00:17:00,028 --> 00:17:01,948 Speaker 1: Hudginson needs for breakfast? Dan Campa, what do you think 341 00:17:02,828 --> 00:17:05,628 Speaker 1: steak and eggs every morning? Steak and eggs, steak and eggs. 342 00:17:06,028 --> 00:17:09,428 Speaker 1: You know, let's just say quarterbacks. Quarterbacks too, all right, 343 00:17:09,468 --> 00:17:11,348 Speaker 1: So listen, we like this guy that much. And can 344 00:17:11,388 --> 00:17:13,228 Speaker 1: I ask you? Can I ask you, Brad? How much 345 00:17:13,268 --> 00:17:15,788 Speaker 1: does this the idea that he played at Michigan and 346 00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:18,028 Speaker 1: we're in Michigan does that play any role at all? 347 00:17:18,068 --> 00:17:19,748 Speaker 1: Or is that just cutesy stuff that's a little doll 348 00:17:19,788 --> 00:17:22,668 Speaker 1: up on top. It doesn't really to the football operation. 349 00:17:22,748 --> 00:17:25,628 Speaker 1: You just want to get the football the best football player. However, 350 00:17:26,188 --> 00:17:29,188 Speaker 1: as part of the relationships within your building, it's an 351 00:17:29,228 --> 00:17:32,508 Speaker 1: important thing. The president, you know, Rodwood is going to 352 00:17:32,548 --> 00:17:35,028 Speaker 1: be very happy. Yeah, Sheila is going to be very 353 00:17:35,028 --> 00:17:37,308 Speaker 1: happy if they have someone who's a Michigan person that 354 00:17:37,388 --> 00:17:40,108 Speaker 1: they can sell hold on though they might not get it. Wow, 355 00:17:40,508 --> 00:17:43,108 Speaker 1: maybe it is the Giants calling back impatiently. But why 356 00:17:43,148 --> 00:17:46,148 Speaker 1: don't you find maybe the Jets actually coming up. Brad Homes, 357 00:17:46,188 --> 00:17:51,628 Speaker 1: General manager, Blions Detroit. It's the Kansas City Chiefs and 358 00:17:51,748 --> 00:17:56,308 Speaker 1: Brett Veach. Here here's our offer, twenty ninth overall pick, 359 00:17:56,548 --> 00:18:01,428 Speaker 1: the thirtieth overall pick, and our offensive tackle Andrew Wiley, 360 00:18:01,428 --> 00:18:03,988 Speaker 1: who would start right away for you guys twenty nine 361 00:18:04,148 --> 00:18:08,028 Speaker 1: and thirty. But also Andrew Wiley, a day one starter 362 00:18:08,908 --> 00:18:12,108 Speaker 1: for your team for that number two overall pick. What 363 00:18:12,148 --> 00:18:16,308 Speaker 1: do you say? Two first rounders and a starting tackle. Gosh, 364 00:18:16,348 --> 00:18:20,748 Speaker 1: it sounds like a good offer from my side. They 365 00:18:20,868 --> 00:18:23,628 Speaker 1: always do talk. You gotta be careful with those Chiefs gms, 366 00:18:23,668 --> 00:18:26,028 Speaker 1: don't you, Brad Homes. You never know what is up 367 00:18:26,028 --> 00:18:28,348 Speaker 1: their sleeve. In this case, you're gonna have to move 368 00:18:28,428 --> 00:18:30,708 Speaker 1: way back from two to twenty nine. But you go 369 00:18:30,788 --> 00:18:33,268 Speaker 1: back to back picks and you get a quality starter 370 00:18:33,308 --> 00:18:35,708 Speaker 1: and Andrew Wiley. Does this do anything for you? I'd 371 00:18:35,748 --> 00:18:37,548 Speaker 1: say does it blow your hair back? But that doesn't apply. 372 00:18:37,788 --> 00:18:39,628 Speaker 1: What do you got, Brad Homes, What do you have? 373 00:18:39,708 --> 00:18:42,348 Speaker 1: Blow my hair back? Are we really going there early 374 00:18:42,348 --> 00:18:45,908 Speaker 1: in the home? That's hurtful, Brads, We already have pick 375 00:18:45,988 --> 00:18:48,188 Speaker 1: thirty two. We don't want to dominate the back end. 376 00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:50,588 Speaker 1: Of the first round. We really don't. So we've already 377 00:18:50,588 --> 00:18:54,708 Speaker 1: got that pick. Going back that far and again, Andrew Wiley, 378 00:18:54,748 --> 00:18:57,548 Speaker 1: we're talking about another player who's in the last year 379 00:18:57,588 --> 00:19:00,588 Speaker 1: of his contract. We are giving up first round picks 380 00:19:00,948 --> 00:19:04,348 Speaker 1: rent control. Right when you pick a first rounder or 381 00:19:04,748 --> 00:19:07,188 Speaker 1: a rookie player, you have rent control, so to speak, 382 00:19:07,228 --> 00:19:09,228 Speaker 1: on the player we're getting a game. I don't know 383 00:19:09,308 --> 00:19:11,628 Speaker 1: if you've got more. It's multiple picks though, so you 384 00:19:11,708 --> 00:19:13,628 Speaker 1: may you know, to take us take us out of 385 00:19:13,628 --> 00:19:15,708 Speaker 1: this for a second. We're talking about the Jets. You said, 386 00:19:15,708 --> 00:19:18,908 Speaker 1: acquire more. There's so many holes move down. Same kind 387 00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:20,628 Speaker 1: of thing with the Lions. Right, but you're saying that 388 00:19:20,628 --> 00:19:23,028 Speaker 1: that two spots more premium, we should get more. It 389 00:19:23,068 --> 00:19:24,788 Speaker 1: is too far to move back, right, Yeah, to get 390 00:19:24,788 --> 00:19:27,708 Speaker 1: it because the difference between player number two, three or 391 00:19:27,788 --> 00:19:32,468 Speaker 1: four versus twenty ninety two, there is a gap there. 392 00:19:32,548 --> 00:19:37,228 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not a great difference between two and ten. Okay, 393 00:19:37,508 --> 00:19:41,868 Speaker 1: what do you think We've got to make a decision. 394 00:19:42,188 --> 00:19:44,068 Speaker 1: I do not want to move back. I want Aiden 395 00:19:44,148 --> 00:19:46,628 Speaker 1: Hutchinson on my team. Like I said from day one, 396 00:19:46,748 --> 00:19:49,388 Speaker 1: this is a guy that'll come in ben immediate impact player. 397 00:19:49,748 --> 00:19:52,028 Speaker 1: I know I've I've lost my voice for for Dan 398 00:19:52,068 --> 00:19:54,108 Speaker 1: Campbell here. But at the end of the day, that's 399 00:19:54,108 --> 00:19:59,428 Speaker 1: hard to keep up. Final choice. Let's just make sure 400 00:19:59,468 --> 00:20:01,068 Speaker 1: we look at these trade offers. One more to ago. 401 00:20:01,148 --> 00:20:02,628 Speaker 1: This is a big deal. We never want to be 402 00:20:02,668 --> 00:20:05,228 Speaker 1: back here at two again. We have the trade offers in. 403 00:20:05,268 --> 00:20:06,908 Speaker 1: I think we can show them we're moving back to 404 00:20:07,028 --> 00:20:09,908 Speaker 1: the fourth, We're moving back to the twenty ninth, We're 405 00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:13,428 Speaker 1: moving back to the seventh. They're pretty solid, guys, I 406 00:20:13,428 --> 00:20:15,228 Speaker 1: mean some of them. I don't see a lot of 407 00:20:15,268 --> 00:20:18,828 Speaker 1: love at the table again, Jets. The Jets called that 408 00:20:18,908 --> 00:20:20,868 Speaker 1: does nothing for us, I guess not not even to 409 00:20:20,868 --> 00:20:23,068 Speaker 1: move back from two to four. Coach Glenn, you said 410 00:20:23,068 --> 00:20:24,508 Speaker 1: you would want the ten thrown in if you're gonna 411 00:20:24,508 --> 00:20:26,348 Speaker 1: move up to the four and ten, and we'll talk, 412 00:20:26,468 --> 00:20:29,828 Speaker 1: all right. They haven't called back the Lions offer Sterling Shepherd. 413 00:20:29,868 --> 00:20:31,908 Speaker 1: But here are GM Brad Holmes who jump right to 414 00:20:31,988 --> 00:20:33,628 Speaker 1: the ass Jeeves and said they're both in the final 415 00:20:33,788 --> 00:20:35,628 Speaker 1: year in their contracts. You believe. So that's just that's 416 00:20:35,668 --> 00:20:38,428 Speaker 1: not doing us anything, and so is Andrew Wiley. So 417 00:20:38,468 --> 00:20:40,148 Speaker 1: I feel like they're trying to fish shook. You guys, 418 00:20:40,188 --> 00:20:42,468 Speaker 1: do any of these on a one last lap around 419 00:20:42,548 --> 00:20:45,428 Speaker 1: appeal to you or are we taking the number two pick? Aaron? 420 00:20:46,108 --> 00:20:47,948 Speaker 1: What can you do with Aiden hutch Does he make 421 00:20:47,948 --> 00:20:50,428 Speaker 1: a difference on your defense? Is he dynamic enough to 422 00:20:50,428 --> 00:20:52,788 Speaker 1: make it? Absolutely? We're talking about a piece we can 423 00:20:52,828 --> 00:20:55,228 Speaker 1: build around. We're talking about that division with Aaron Rodgers 424 00:20:55,228 --> 00:20:58,468 Speaker 1: and company. A young piece, that kind of talent, a 425 00:20:58,668 --> 00:21:01,148 Speaker 1: safe bet in this draft where we don't know who's 426 00:21:01,148 --> 00:21:02,828 Speaker 1: going to go and the fact that we all agree, 427 00:21:02,868 --> 00:21:04,988 Speaker 1: I can't imagine most for an office are like, that's 428 00:21:05,028 --> 00:21:07,788 Speaker 1: the guy. Daden of itself. The removal of that headache 429 00:21:07,828 --> 00:21:11,068 Speaker 1: is great. Jonah, I'm been over here thinking about Jeff Okuda. 430 00:21:11,148 --> 00:21:17,428 Speaker 1: You guys, figure out somebody needs of banging my hand 431 00:21:17,508 --> 00:21:19,548 Speaker 1: on the table for this guy since day one. I mean, 432 00:21:19,828 --> 00:21:23,548 Speaker 1: he's a premier pass rusher in this league, did fourteen sacks. 433 00:21:23,748 --> 00:21:25,628 Speaker 1: He's going to be a guy that's not just good 434 00:21:25,668 --> 00:21:28,268 Speaker 1: on the field and impactful there, but as as we know, 435 00:21:28,348 --> 00:21:30,228 Speaker 1: he's a team captain. He's a guy that'll come in 436 00:21:30,548 --> 00:21:32,588 Speaker 1: and help with the culture and what we're trying to 437 00:21:32,588 --> 00:21:35,348 Speaker 1: build here, and we need strong leadership at that position, 438 00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:37,748 Speaker 1: and it really inside our building with our team, and 439 00:21:37,788 --> 00:21:40,308 Speaker 1: he's a total culture fit. But we've made the decision. 440 00:21:40,348 --> 00:21:43,388 Speaker 1: We know everyone here knows exactly what the is. No trade, 441 00:21:43,388 --> 00:21:45,428 Speaker 1: he stay with the number two, Tade, you know what. 442 00:21:45,548 --> 00:21:48,028 Speaker 1: Get on the phone, Hey, let's talk to Ken Fiori 443 00:21:48,068 --> 00:21:51,068 Speaker 1: at the league office. Given name Aiden Hutchinson. Aiden Hutchinson 444 00:21:51,228 --> 00:21:54,668 Speaker 1: going to the Detroit Lions with the number two overall picks. 445 00:21:54,708 --> 00:21:58,628 Speaker 1: Excuse me? Yes, um, I would have taken him. I 446 00:21:58,628 --> 00:22:01,908 Speaker 1: would have taken the number one. Yes. I don't like 447 00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:04,228 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. I love him, and I feel like I'm 448 00:22:04,268 --> 00:22:06,348 Speaker 1: in a minority, but he got some love at this table. 449 00:22:06,548 --> 00:22:08,828 Speaker 1: Kyle's in that draft room. He is hitting the ceiling 450 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:10,908 Speaker 1: the second day, passed on Evean Hudginson and that that's 451 00:22:10,948 --> 00:22:12,348 Speaker 1: the biggest value in the world to you to get that. 452 00:22:12,508 --> 00:22:14,948 Speaker 1: I'm hitting the ceiling and then he's he's a hitting 453 00:22:14,948 --> 00:22:17,348 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in there and you're hitting the table. Let's go. 454 00:22:21,868 --> 00:22:25,428 Speaker 1: Let's go to Green today, Shelley, Yeah, all right, let's 455 00:22:25,468 --> 00:22:27,588 Speaker 1: do it. The Packers are one of eight teams that 456 00:22:27,628 --> 00:22:31,348 Speaker 1: have multiple picks in the first round on the Thursday night. 457 00:22:31,388 --> 00:22:35,428 Speaker 1: General manager Bryan Gouda Kunst spoke yesterday about making a 458 00:22:35,508 --> 00:22:40,148 Speaker 1: trade on draft night. Who having more picks kind of 459 00:22:40,148 --> 00:22:42,868 Speaker 1: in the top three rounds and we've padded a while. Um, 460 00:22:43,548 --> 00:22:47,588 Speaker 1: I think it's there's probably temptations on both sides to 461 00:22:47,748 --> 00:22:49,388 Speaker 1: move around a little bit there or just to sit 462 00:22:49,468 --> 00:22:52,388 Speaker 1: and pick as well. So we'll kind of see what's available. 463 00:22:52,428 --> 00:22:53,548 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it's just going to 464 00:22:53,588 --> 00:22:55,668 Speaker 1: be how the how the draft falls. You gotta be 465 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,948 Speaker 1: careful of falling in love with players, right because you 466 00:22:58,988 --> 00:23:01,828 Speaker 1: start chasing things and getting out of whack value wise 467 00:23:01,868 --> 00:23:05,068 Speaker 1: and stuff. But um, so love for it to come 468 00:23:05,108 --> 00:23:06,228 Speaker 1: to you. But at the same time, and you have 469 00:23:06,268 --> 00:23:10,148 Speaker 1: to be realistic about where you're picking and where the 470 00:23:10,188 --> 00:23:12,628 Speaker 1: strength of the draft is, and if it makes sense 471 00:23:12,668 --> 00:23:15,508 Speaker 1: to move to a particular area to help your football team, 472 00:23:15,548 --> 00:23:16,748 Speaker 1: I think you have to be willing to do that. 473 00:23:19,628 --> 00:23:21,868 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're being realistic, you need a wide receiver. 474 00:23:22,028 --> 00:23:23,588 Speaker 1: The best one in the game is no longer on 475 00:23:23,628 --> 00:23:26,148 Speaker 1: your team. He plays for the Raiders. There's chemistry, There's 476 00:23:26,188 --> 00:23:28,468 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback who's got a time clock of winning 477 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:30,948 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, Kyle. They need help, they need help 478 00:23:30,948 --> 00:23:32,988 Speaker 1: on the outside. Who got the twenty second, the twenty 479 00:23:32,988 --> 00:23:35,348 Speaker 1: eighth overall do the Packers and me, I mean, I 480 00:23:35,388 --> 00:23:38,588 Speaker 1: know how you feel. Tell the gentleman, how I don't 481 00:23:38,628 --> 00:23:41,388 Speaker 1: know if that guy's draft and wide receiverre watching him. 482 00:23:41,428 --> 00:23:43,948 Speaker 1: So the puzzle pieces in place here, all right? You 483 00:23:43,988 --> 00:23:46,348 Speaker 1: know the history. Never mind Brian Gutenkunz is not all his. 484 00:23:46,628 --> 00:23:48,468 Speaker 1: They have not drafted a wide receiver in the first 485 00:23:48,548 --> 00:23:50,228 Speaker 1: round since two thousand and two. Is Javon Walker? Well, 486 00:23:50,228 --> 00:23:51,948 Speaker 1: you don't know if they also haven't drafted a running 487 00:23:51,948 --> 00:23:53,548 Speaker 1: back or a tight end on the first round since then. 488 00:23:53,588 --> 00:23:56,908 Speaker 1: It's just not what they do. So you have two picks, 489 00:23:57,308 --> 00:24:00,868 Speaker 1: you have a draft class flush with wide receiver talent, 490 00:24:01,108 --> 00:24:04,148 Speaker 1: and you just lost DeVante Adams. So there are three 491 00:24:04,508 --> 00:24:08,468 Speaker 1: massive tectonic plates coming together. And yet I still don't 492 00:24:08,468 --> 00:24:09,988 Speaker 1: think they're going to because you know what they always come, 493 00:24:10,188 --> 00:24:12,068 Speaker 1: always comes up for the Packers as an organization, as 494 00:24:12,068 --> 00:24:14,508 Speaker 1: a fan base, bring this up, they'll say, why don't 495 00:24:14,508 --> 00:24:16,348 Speaker 1: you need to draft the Packers receiver in the first round? 496 00:24:16,428 --> 00:24:19,348 Speaker 1: Because of this? These are our guys. These are all 497 00:24:19,588 --> 00:24:23,468 Speaker 1: killers year after year. These are building blocks. These are offense. 498 00:24:23,988 --> 00:24:27,788 Speaker 1: Seventh round, second, second, second, second, third. No first round 499 00:24:27,828 --> 00:24:32,468 Speaker 1: receivers there, none of them. And that is their adamantium 500 00:24:32,508 --> 00:24:34,508 Speaker 1: shield that they hold up against this idea that we 501 00:24:34,508 --> 00:24:37,308 Speaker 1: should draft a first round receiver. They may trade, they 502 00:24:37,348 --> 00:24:41,228 Speaker 1: may trade back. It's teams do things sometimes and where 503 00:24:41,268 --> 00:24:43,748 Speaker 1: they're just institutionally we don't believe in it in Scott 504 00:24:43,788 --> 00:24:46,188 Speaker 1: you know this, like, we think there are wide receivers 505 00:24:46,228 --> 00:24:48,348 Speaker 1: that we can mold and we have the best quarterback. 506 00:24:48,628 --> 00:24:51,388 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that not only will they not 507 00:24:51,468 --> 00:24:53,988 Speaker 1: trade up to get a wide receiver, that they may 508 00:24:54,068 --> 00:24:56,388 Speaker 1: not draft one with either of the first two picks 509 00:24:56,508 --> 00:24:59,148 Speaker 1: because it's not what they do. And they think we 510 00:24:59,228 --> 00:25:01,148 Speaker 1: have Aaron, we have a couple of guys that we 511 00:25:01,228 --> 00:25:03,548 Speaker 1: like in the building already, and we have Robertanian coming back. 512 00:25:03,548 --> 00:25:05,828 Speaker 1: We'll get a wide receiver even the second round. And 513 00:25:06,188 --> 00:25:08,108 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna happen anything as be possible. 514 00:25:08,308 --> 00:25:10,068 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna draft one. I just don't 515 00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:11,988 Speaker 1: think they do it. And Kyle, they don't need to. 516 00:25:12,068 --> 00:25:13,868 Speaker 1: And part of what you talk about the reason this 517 00:25:13,948 --> 00:25:17,468 Speaker 1: is there, they don't need to. That full screen of 518 00:25:17,548 --> 00:25:19,828 Speaker 1: me just saw how many times are those guys gone 519 00:25:19,828 --> 00:25:21,828 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. It's it's this is a personal 520 00:25:21,828 --> 00:25:24,868 Speaker 1: frustration for me. Yeah, we are littled into thinking that 521 00:25:24,948 --> 00:25:28,148 Speaker 1: they are title pounds. They've been to one with Rogers, 522 00:25:28,588 --> 00:25:31,028 Speaker 1: they went to two with five, they've been to three 523 00:25:31,108 --> 00:25:33,868 Speaker 1: and thirty some plus years. So as much as those 524 00:25:33,868 --> 00:25:36,028 Speaker 1: guys have worked, and I respect all the guys on 525 00:25:36,148 --> 00:25:38,668 Speaker 1: that screen, maybe you just take it. Maybe we can 526 00:25:38,708 --> 00:25:41,228 Speaker 1: get a Jamar Chase and a Justin Jefferson. League is 527 00:25:41,228 --> 00:25:43,108 Speaker 1: a lot different than when they drafted Donald Driver, you 528 00:25:43,188 --> 00:25:45,108 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like, maybe you break the 529 00:25:45,188 --> 00:25:47,308 Speaker 1: mold and maybe you win an NFC title game one 530 00:25:47,308 --> 00:25:49,468 Speaker 1: of these years. So taking one in the first round 531 00:25:49,588 --> 00:25:53,148 Speaker 1: where they're at is a good idea. But to move 532 00:25:53,268 --> 00:25:56,508 Speaker 1: up a great away additional capital doesn't make sense because 533 00:25:56,548 --> 00:25:59,708 Speaker 1: here's the difference. When you have an elite NFL quarterback, 534 00:25:59,788 --> 00:26:03,588 Speaker 1: let's talk about him, Brady Breeze manning all of the 535 00:26:03,668 --> 00:26:07,348 Speaker 1: true elite quarterbacks, which Aaron Rodgers is one. They are 536 00:26:07,428 --> 00:26:09,508 Speaker 1: part of the development of wide receivers. That list that 537 00:26:09,548 --> 00:26:12,268 Speaker 1: we just showed the second round picks. Those were good 538 00:26:12,308 --> 00:26:16,268 Speaker 1: players that became very good and or great receivers because Matt, 539 00:26:16,308 --> 00:26:18,748 Speaker 1: you know this too. Part of the development of wide 540 00:26:18,748 --> 00:26:22,388 Speaker 1: receivers comes down to not just coaching, not it comes 541 00:26:22,388 --> 00:26:25,148 Speaker 1: down to the quarterback helping those players develop. So when 542 00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:28,388 Speaker 1: you have someone as elite as Aaron Rodgers, yes he 543 00:26:28,548 --> 00:26:31,308 Speaker 1: may want that first round pick, maybe he wants them 544 00:26:31,348 --> 00:26:33,628 Speaker 1: to reach, but again, part of the reason he is 545 00:26:33,668 --> 00:26:36,828 Speaker 1: great is because he can help other players become better. 546 00:26:37,108 --> 00:26:39,548 Speaker 1: So to me to give away additional the Packers are 547 00:26:39,588 --> 00:26:42,428 Speaker 1: a good football team. They're not just a wide receiver away. 548 00:26:42,628 --> 00:26:45,068 Speaker 1: I'm sorry they're not. So to start giving away more 549 00:26:45,148 --> 00:26:47,948 Speaker 1: capital that they can use as more opportunities to get 550 00:26:47,948 --> 00:26:50,908 Speaker 1: their entire team better, I'm not into the idea than 551 00:26:51,108 --> 00:26:53,508 Speaker 1: trading up. Right. Well, they're sitting at twenty two and 552 00:26:53,548 --> 00:26:56,068 Speaker 1: they have twenty eight, right, and so while those upper 553 00:26:56,188 --> 00:27:00,028 Speaker 1: tier wide receivers, whether it's Jamison Williams or Garrett Wilson 554 00:27:00,028 --> 00:27:01,988 Speaker 1: and those guys might be off the board, you still 555 00:27:01,988 --> 00:27:05,908 Speaker 1: have guys like Han Dotson Traylon Berg's who are good 556 00:27:05,948 --> 00:27:08,068 Speaker 1: players that I think if they stay put, they'll still 557 00:27:08,068 --> 00:27:09,788 Speaker 1: be able to get those guys. And as you've pointed, 558 00:27:09,948 --> 00:27:13,908 Speaker 1: the history is the history, right. They haven't drafted a 559 00:27:13,988 --> 00:27:16,148 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round for twenty years, and 560 00:27:16,188 --> 00:27:17,548 Speaker 1: they would have to give up a lot to get 561 00:27:17,628 --> 00:27:21,348 Speaker 1: up into that top you know, yeah. But at the 562 00:27:21,468 --> 00:27:23,188 Speaker 1: other part, this is the other point that you have 563 00:27:23,228 --> 00:27:25,708 Speaker 1: to make as a quarterback. The clock is ticking for 564 00:27:25,748 --> 00:27:28,228 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And when you look at that wide receiver 565 00:27:28,388 --> 00:27:31,388 Speaker 1: position for the Green Bay Packers, it's Sammy Watkins, it's 566 00:27:31,468 --> 00:27:35,148 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, it's Alan Lazard, and so they need they 567 00:27:35,148 --> 00:27:37,508 Speaker 1: don't have a primary number one. And that's what he's 568 00:27:37,508 --> 00:27:39,788 Speaker 1: always been able to develop and have. But does he 569 00:27:39,828 --> 00:27:42,708 Speaker 1: have the time to develop one of these guys like 570 00:27:42,908 --> 00:27:46,348 Speaker 1: John Dalson over the next few season? Is right, it's closing. 571 00:27:46,468 --> 00:27:48,948 Speaker 1: You didn't lose a wide receiver. You don't need a 572 00:27:48,988 --> 00:27:52,868 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You need what you just said, a number one. 573 00:27:53,028 --> 00:27:55,068 Speaker 1: And I think if I think they are one wide 574 00:27:55,068 --> 00:27:57,628 Speaker 1: receiver away, who was the one seed in the NFC 575 00:27:57,748 --> 00:28:01,748 Speaker 1: last year that I wonder about there to defense? I 576 00:28:01,908 --> 00:28:04,948 Speaker 1: you know, I it's a weekend NFC. It's so facto 577 00:28:04,988 --> 00:28:07,268 Speaker 1: a simple map to say that they're not going to 578 00:28:07,308 --> 00:28:10,588 Speaker 1: contend or that they should. I mean, losing Devanta Adams 579 00:28:10,628 --> 00:28:13,068 Speaker 1: a huge setback, something that absolutely has to be addressed. 580 00:28:13,228 --> 00:28:14,748 Speaker 1: And I think that if you have a guy that 581 00:28:14,868 --> 00:28:17,628 Speaker 1: you like, and I'm talking a guy that Aaron likes, 582 00:28:17,788 --> 00:28:19,428 Speaker 1: I don't think it's as easy as let's look at 583 00:28:19,428 --> 00:28:21,868 Speaker 1: the metrics from combine and pro day. Who's going to 584 00:28:21,948 --> 00:28:26,868 Speaker 1: work with Aaron Rodgers. He's a specific, particular genius at 585 00:28:26,908 --> 00:28:29,468 Speaker 1: his position. He is a master, and I don't necessarily 586 00:28:29,468 --> 00:28:31,628 Speaker 1: it's whatever guy falls, he'll develop them. I don't think 587 00:28:31,628 --> 00:28:33,228 Speaker 1: that's how Aaron Rodgers work. I don't think that's how 588 00:28:33,228 --> 00:28:35,228 Speaker 1: he's ever worked. And so it needs to be if 589 00:28:35,228 --> 00:28:38,308 Speaker 1: they see that guy, the window is right now. I 590 00:28:38,308 --> 00:28:40,308 Speaker 1: can't believe you're saying that they have so many needs 591 00:28:40,308 --> 00:28:43,068 Speaker 1: to fill well, because they do. Because I think every 592 00:28:43,148 --> 00:28:46,988 Speaker 1: time that I've looked at it and was a part 593 00:28:47,028 --> 00:28:49,748 Speaker 1: of making decisions, when you think that you're one player away, 594 00:28:49,948 --> 00:28:52,428 Speaker 1: or a team that thinks that they're one player away, 595 00:28:52,748 --> 00:28:54,628 Speaker 1: it's usually a mistake, and I've been a part of 596 00:28:54,628 --> 00:28:57,348 Speaker 1: those mistakes. We need just I mean, I remember again 597 00:28:57,388 --> 00:28:59,068 Speaker 1: this a long time ago in Cleveland, we thought we 598 00:28:59,068 --> 00:29:02,708 Speaker 1: were one wide receiver away from being that team that 599 00:29:02,868 --> 00:29:05,228 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs in nineteen ninety five to ninety six. 600 00:29:05,268 --> 00:29:07,428 Speaker 1: We went out and signed Andre Riisen, made him the 601 00:29:07,468 --> 00:29:10,188 Speaker 1: highest po while receiving the National League We were not 602 00:29:10,268 --> 00:29:13,988 Speaker 1: one player away because in every season, your team change 603 00:29:15,708 --> 00:29:18,268 Speaker 1: you're sitting at twenty two. They're at twenty two, all right, 604 00:29:18,428 --> 00:29:20,388 Speaker 1: and they know there we do want to receiver, want 605 00:29:20,388 --> 00:29:22,508 Speaker 1: to get one of these guys. One goes at eleven, 606 00:29:22,588 --> 00:29:25,188 Speaker 1: one goes to twelve, one goes at fourteen. The run starts. 607 00:29:25,508 --> 00:29:27,228 Speaker 1: Do the Packers not say we gotta get up there, 608 00:29:27,268 --> 00:29:28,668 Speaker 1: we gotta get up there, we want a wide receiver? 609 00:29:28,828 --> 00:29:30,628 Speaker 1: Or do you have to pivot on the fly? What's 610 00:29:30,668 --> 00:29:34,068 Speaker 1: that like? I'm a believer in letting the draft come 611 00:29:34,108 --> 00:29:37,068 Speaker 1: to you. You sit, you be patient, and if you 612 00:29:37,148 --> 00:29:39,988 Speaker 1: have have to move up one or two spots, yes, 613 00:29:40,228 --> 00:29:43,228 Speaker 1: given nine, six, the fifth, that's for different goaluations to 614 00:29:43,268 --> 00:29:46,028 Speaker 1: go up to four. Packer situation is I'm like, I 615 00:29:46,068 --> 00:29:49,428 Speaker 1: want to take Gooty and say, girl, girl, sith, don't look. 616 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:51,748 Speaker 1: I really want to shake him and say you have 617 00:29:51,828 --> 00:29:54,428 Speaker 1: all of these assets, Kyle, were are you on this? Like? 618 00:29:54,988 --> 00:29:57,508 Speaker 1: Move up? What are you doing? You're gonna waste Aaron 619 00:29:57,588 --> 00:29:59,548 Speaker 1: Rodgers if you don't go ahead and make moves like that, 620 00:29:59,788 --> 00:30:01,668 Speaker 1: and you look at you're talking about one player away, 621 00:30:01,708 --> 00:30:04,188 Speaker 1: where the Ram's not one player away. They were one player. 622 00:30:04,948 --> 00:30:07,188 Speaker 1: We're bold got their player and won a Super Bowl, 623 00:30:07,988 --> 00:30:10,508 Speaker 1: and really they might be one play away, right because 624 00:30:10,508 --> 00:30:12,508 Speaker 1: you talk about it, like you said, they were the 625 00:30:12,788 --> 00:30:15,948 Speaker 1: number one seat in the NFC last year. So and defensively, 626 00:30:15,948 --> 00:30:17,508 Speaker 1: when you talk about the defense, they had a ton 627 00:30:17,548 --> 00:30:19,468 Speaker 1: of injuries on the defensive side of the ball last year, 628 00:30:19,628 --> 00:30:21,468 Speaker 1: and that could happen at any point to any team. 629 00:30:21,628 --> 00:30:23,668 Speaker 1: But this is a solid group on the defensive side. 630 00:30:23,708 --> 00:30:25,668 Speaker 1: It's a solid group. They've got their running backs. But 631 00:30:25,788 --> 00:30:27,868 Speaker 1: where they're they're missing right now is they need one 632 00:30:27,948 --> 00:30:31,588 Speaker 1: more primary go to wide receiver for Aaron Rodgers to 633 00:30:31,668 --> 00:30:34,108 Speaker 1: go and do his thing, because again, he'll make him better, 634 00:30:34,268 --> 00:30:36,388 Speaker 1: but he'll also make him a leap even if he's 635 00:30:36,428 --> 00:30:39,468 Speaker 1: the middle of the tier final wild. I think you 636 00:30:39,548 --> 00:30:42,188 Speaker 1: have two years with Aaron Rodgers to win a Super Bowl. 637 00:30:42,228 --> 00:30:44,068 Speaker 1: After that, you were into the great unknown after thirty 638 00:30:44,068 --> 00:30:46,108 Speaker 1: five years of Hall of Fame play. You need some lightning. 639 00:30:46,228 --> 00:30:48,788 Speaker 1: Take a shot. Please break your mold and take a shot, 640 00:30:48,828 --> 00:30:56,268 Speaker 1: get some lightning, win a Super Bowl. Welcome to your 641 00:30:56,308 --> 00:30:58,588 Speaker 1: Morning Football. You've been watching all springing and we've interviewed 642 00:30:58,668 --> 00:31:02,188 Speaker 1: dozens and dozens of draft prospects over the past few weeks. 643 00:31:02,868 --> 00:31:04,908 Speaker 1: None of them have been quite like our next guest. 644 00:31:04,948 --> 00:31:07,388 Speaker 1: He's an incredible football player in All American the first 645 00:31:07,388 --> 00:31:10,748 Speaker 1: Team Big Ten. He's also an inspiration to all of us. 646 00:31:10,828 --> 00:31:15,548 Speaker 1: Please welcome Ohio State defensive tackle Haskell the Rascal Garrett. 647 00:31:15,548 --> 00:31:21,388 Speaker 1: What's up a morning, Good morning, Good morning everybody. It's 648 00:31:21,428 --> 00:31:23,788 Speaker 1: great to see you. You're in Las Vegas. We're in 649 00:31:23,788 --> 00:31:27,308 Speaker 1: New York. It is all kinds of Vegas action this weekend, 650 00:31:27,308 --> 00:31:29,748 Speaker 1: of course, but we never met you before. And I 651 00:31:29,748 --> 00:31:31,468 Speaker 1: think a lot of people watching need to hear this. 652 00:31:31,548 --> 00:31:33,428 Speaker 1: We have to jump right into this because Haskal, you 653 00:31:33,468 --> 00:31:38,268 Speaker 1: went through something pretty important. It was August thirtieth, twenty twenty. 654 00:31:38,508 --> 00:31:41,908 Speaker 1: You were in Columbus and a few hundred feet from 655 00:31:41,908 --> 00:31:44,988 Speaker 1: away from your apartment on that night. What happened and 656 00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:49,028 Speaker 1: how did it change your life? Yeah? You know, it 657 00:31:49,148 --> 00:31:55,948 Speaker 1: was a Columbus as a late night and just gosh, 658 00:31:56,028 --> 00:31:58,508 Speaker 1: I was going I was out, you know, going to 659 00:31:58,508 --> 00:32:01,228 Speaker 1: get my phone from my car. We had been hanging 660 00:32:01,228 --> 00:32:04,948 Speaker 1: out with our teammates or that night and walking to 661 00:32:05,108 --> 00:32:09,348 Speaker 1: my car and grab my phone. I was I was 662 00:32:09,388 --> 00:32:11,028 Speaker 1: on the other side of the street and I saw 663 00:32:11,068 --> 00:32:13,908 Speaker 1: this couple arguing. You know, I just didn't think anything 664 00:32:13,948 --> 00:32:17,548 Speaker 1: of it. I wasn't gonna say anything was walking past 665 00:32:17,668 --> 00:32:21,028 Speaker 1: walking and I turned and looked over and I saw, 666 00:32:21,428 --> 00:32:25,308 Speaker 1: you know, this man hit his girl. Wife. I don't know, 667 00:32:25,548 --> 00:32:28,508 Speaker 1: but you know I saw another man hit a woman. 668 00:32:29,468 --> 00:32:32,268 Speaker 1: And one of our core values that the our state 669 00:32:32,428 --> 00:32:36,788 Speaker 1: is titled nine respect women. So immediately my instincts started 670 00:32:36,828 --> 00:32:39,908 Speaker 1: to go help that that woman. So I went over there, 671 00:32:40,028 --> 00:32:43,268 Speaker 1: I intervened and when I pushed him, pushed him off 672 00:32:43,308 --> 00:32:46,668 Speaker 1: away from her and looked towards her, and then when 673 00:32:46,708 --> 00:32:49,708 Speaker 1: I looked back, everything just went black. And next thing 674 00:32:49,708 --> 00:32:52,628 Speaker 1: I knew, I was picking myself up, you know, in 675 00:32:52,708 --> 00:32:57,068 Speaker 1: a puddle of blood, and I hit a fight or 676 00:32:57,068 --> 00:32:59,388 Speaker 1: flight moment. It was either I didn't have my phone. 677 00:32:59,828 --> 00:33:03,068 Speaker 1: It was either you know, lay here and die or 678 00:33:03,508 --> 00:33:06,148 Speaker 1: learned back to a part and get help from Pete, 679 00:33:06,348 --> 00:33:10,028 Speaker 1: my roommate. So I picked myself up with all the 680 00:33:10,308 --> 00:33:14,188 Speaker 1: energy and you know, all the strength I had and 681 00:33:14,388 --> 00:33:17,748 Speaker 1: ran home. I told my roommate at the time, Pete Warrenant, 682 00:33:18,028 --> 00:33:20,068 Speaker 1: you know, I need hope, called the ambulance. I think 683 00:33:20,108 --> 00:33:30,748 Speaker 1: I've been shot. So yeah, it's incredibly traumatic. Incredibly you 684 00:33:30,788 --> 00:33:32,508 Speaker 1: don't even have to be open about that, and I 685 00:33:32,548 --> 00:33:35,908 Speaker 1: appreciate so much you sharing that story. Incredibly courageous. I 686 00:33:35,908 --> 00:33:38,108 Speaker 1: think the word that I was looking for. And what's 687 00:33:38,148 --> 00:33:42,028 Speaker 1: also remarkable is that you picked yourself up in more 688 00:33:42,068 --> 00:33:45,788 Speaker 1: ways than one because you less than two months after 689 00:33:46,068 --> 00:33:49,508 Speaker 1: this shooting where this happened, you played in the game, 690 00:33:49,828 --> 00:33:52,908 Speaker 1: and in that game you recorded your first college sack. 691 00:33:53,708 --> 00:33:56,788 Speaker 1: I would love to know what it took inside for 692 00:33:56,868 --> 00:34:00,068 Speaker 1: you to get there. I'm talking determination, will, discipline, all 693 00:34:00,108 --> 00:34:02,548 Speaker 1: of that, and then what it meant to get a 694 00:34:02,588 --> 00:34:06,028 Speaker 1: sack in that game just fifty five days after the incident. 695 00:34:07,548 --> 00:34:10,308 Speaker 1: You know, I had to go through an immense amount 696 00:34:10,308 --> 00:34:17,748 Speaker 1: of surgeries, bone graphs coming back. I was determined. I've 697 00:34:17,828 --> 00:34:20,188 Speaker 1: been going through trials and tri relations my whole life, 698 00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:23,148 Speaker 1: so this was just another another way of God telling me, 699 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:25,348 Speaker 1: you know, you're my best soldiers, so you're going to 700 00:34:25,428 --> 00:34:27,068 Speaker 1: go through this and be an example for the rest 701 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:32,988 Speaker 1: of everybody. And it was also my teammates that helped 702 00:34:32,988 --> 00:34:35,508 Speaker 1: me get back on the field, and most importantly, my family, 703 00:34:36,028 --> 00:34:39,948 Speaker 1: my brothers and sisters, Olivia had done and Francis being 704 00:34:39,988 --> 00:34:42,908 Speaker 1: there for me, you know, my extended family getting me 705 00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:45,708 Speaker 1: back and say hey, you can do this. You've been 706 00:34:45,748 --> 00:34:49,508 Speaker 1: trading your whole life for this moment. I had been 707 00:34:49,868 --> 00:34:53,948 Speaker 1: in the rotation for years, and finally I wasn't about 708 00:34:53,988 --> 00:34:58,388 Speaker 1: to let something like this distract me or get me 709 00:34:58,428 --> 00:35:01,748 Speaker 1: off course from what was destined for me. And that 710 00:35:01,828 --> 00:35:05,508 Speaker 1: was the starting defensive tackle for the Ohuse So I 711 00:35:05,588 --> 00:35:11,268 Speaker 1: was more determined, more than ever you know has called 712 00:35:11,628 --> 00:35:14,548 Speaker 1: this story is amazing. As a former GM, you know, 713 00:35:14,748 --> 00:35:16,628 Speaker 1: we know you were an All American, We know you 714 00:35:16,748 --> 00:35:19,668 Speaker 1: led Ohio State in SAX. But when you GM's making 715 00:35:19,668 --> 00:35:22,308 Speaker 1: decisions or head coaches making decisions about who they want 716 00:35:22,868 --> 00:35:25,148 Speaker 1: they look for someone, as I'm listening to you and 717 00:35:25,228 --> 00:35:27,828 Speaker 1: watching you, it's like, it's exactly what Ryan Day told 718 00:35:27,828 --> 00:35:31,428 Speaker 1: me about you, is that you just ooze of gratitude. 719 00:35:31,748 --> 00:35:34,228 Speaker 1: So over the last two seasons, you unveiled a charity 720 00:35:34,268 --> 00:35:38,588 Speaker 1: called Beat All Out Odds Foundation, And again we know 721 00:35:38,628 --> 00:35:41,548 Speaker 1: about the football part, but tell us how from a 722 00:35:41,548 --> 00:35:46,988 Speaker 1: football perspective you've changed since this shooting. You know, from 723 00:35:47,268 --> 00:35:49,908 Speaker 1: from a perspective, I just I wanted to get back 724 00:35:49,908 --> 00:35:53,108 Speaker 1: and I wanted to shed light. I knew, you know, 725 00:35:53,228 --> 00:35:55,148 Speaker 1: God's plan for me and what he was doing for 726 00:35:55,228 --> 00:35:58,428 Speaker 1: me and how he was working through me, and so 727 00:35:58,588 --> 00:36:01,428 Speaker 1: just getting out there, not only being the best on 728 00:36:01,468 --> 00:36:03,548 Speaker 1: the field, but off the field in the community. I 729 00:36:03,668 --> 00:36:07,788 Speaker 1: graduated my senior year with a sociology degree, and so 730 00:36:07,828 --> 00:36:09,508 Speaker 1: I wanted to come back and not only be a 731 00:36:09,548 --> 00:36:12,508 Speaker 1: great football player, will also give back to the you know, 732 00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:15,588 Speaker 1: the Columbus community, be there for kids, you know how 733 00:36:16,548 --> 00:36:19,188 Speaker 1: the others were there for me. I wanted to shed 734 00:36:19,308 --> 00:36:23,868 Speaker 1: light where light isn't shed and you know, give inspiration 735 00:36:23,948 --> 00:36:26,428 Speaker 1: the kids that sometimes you know, you just need to 736 00:36:26,508 --> 00:36:32,668 Speaker 1: extra push. Paschal, I got nothing but love, nothing but 737 00:36:32,788 --> 00:36:36,308 Speaker 1: respect for your story. Man, You're an incredible individual. But 738 00:36:36,428 --> 00:36:38,508 Speaker 1: let's get to something a little bit different. You played 739 00:36:38,588 --> 00:36:41,948 Speaker 1: high school football in Vegas, and you live in Vegas, 740 00:36:42,028 --> 00:36:45,628 Speaker 1: and we know that the Vegas is hosting the twenty 741 00:36:45,908 --> 00:36:48,868 Speaker 1: twenty two draft. How close do you live from the 742 00:36:48,948 --> 00:36:51,348 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Strip And what does it mean to have 743 00:36:51,388 --> 00:36:55,948 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft to be taking place in your own hometown. Oh, 744 00:36:56,268 --> 00:36:59,908 Speaker 1: it's so special. It's coming full circle. I live about 745 00:37:00,748 --> 00:37:04,908 Speaker 1: ten fifteen minutes whom it should in summerland of La Vegas, 746 00:37:05,548 --> 00:37:08,908 Speaker 1: and it's just it's so special to be in my 747 00:37:08,988 --> 00:37:11,508 Speaker 1: backyard and to be at home, and to be in 748 00:37:11,548 --> 00:37:14,468 Speaker 1: front of you know, the fans that we're there and 749 00:37:14,588 --> 00:37:18,228 Speaker 1: Bishop Gorman rooting us on won three national titles there 750 00:37:18,348 --> 00:37:24,708 Speaker 1: and just oh, I can't explain or express how how 751 00:37:24,788 --> 00:37:28,668 Speaker 1: humbling it is and how excited I am to be 752 00:37:28,748 --> 00:37:31,748 Speaker 1: in front of all of my family and friends during 753 00:37:31,788 --> 00:37:36,708 Speaker 1: this time. Shout out to Bishop Gorman from the four 754 00:37:36,708 --> 00:37:38,388 Speaker 1: of us here at the table and listen to hash School. 755 00:37:38,428 --> 00:37:40,788 Speaker 1: This is usually when we give the prospect the floor 756 00:37:40,908 --> 00:37:44,028 Speaker 1: to explain why NFL teams should draft them. But you've 757 00:37:44,068 --> 00:37:46,588 Speaker 1: already done it. You nearly lost your life because you 758 00:37:46,628 --> 00:37:49,148 Speaker 1: stood up for someone and you battled back to become 759 00:37:49,188 --> 00:37:50,788 Speaker 1: better than ever. And you're one of the best football 760 00:37:50,788 --> 00:37:53,028 Speaker 1: players in the country and an incredible guy. And any 761 00:37:53,028 --> 00:37:55,028 Speaker 1: team who drafts you will be very lucky to have you, 762 00:37:55,068 --> 00:37:57,588 Speaker 1: and we're just lucky to meet you. Man. Thank you 763 00:37:57,668 --> 00:38:05,868 Speaker 1: so much. Please welcome from the University of Georgia. Pass Rusher, 764 00:38:05,948 --> 00:38:09,268 Speaker 1: Edge Rusher Dominator Treyvon Walker, Treyvon, good morning, how are 765 00:38:09,268 --> 00:38:15,388 Speaker 1: you man? Great. We're thrilled to talk to you because 766 00:38:15,388 --> 00:38:17,908 Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about you, and I know 767 00:38:17,948 --> 00:38:19,628 Speaker 1: you're a guy who's all about work and you're all 768 00:38:19,628 --> 00:38:22,268 Speaker 1: about family. But there's a lot of hype right now 769 00:38:22,308 --> 00:38:25,708 Speaker 1: and the rumors are swirling. There's odds even coming out 770 00:38:25,748 --> 00:38:28,628 Speaker 1: that's saying the Jacksonville Jaguars with the number one overall 771 00:38:28,668 --> 00:38:31,668 Speaker 1: pick are going to take you. How do you feel 772 00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:36,188 Speaker 1: about that? I feel great about that, truly feel like 773 00:38:36,228 --> 00:38:38,948 Speaker 1: it's a blessed just to be in a position that 774 00:38:39,068 --> 00:38:42,628 Speaker 1: people talk about me being number one, coming from a 775 00:38:42,628 --> 00:38:45,548 Speaker 1: lot of people really sleeping on me. So just to 776 00:38:45,588 --> 00:38:47,268 Speaker 1: be able to be in this position, to be able 777 00:38:47,308 --> 00:38:49,988 Speaker 1: to a lot of people saying I may number one, 778 00:38:49,988 --> 00:38:53,788 Speaker 1: it is truly a blessed. I love it. You know, 779 00:38:53,828 --> 00:38:56,388 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, you're gonna be with your family, You're 780 00:38:56,388 --> 00:38:58,468 Speaker 1: gonna stay in Georgia. You're gonna be surrounded by your 781 00:38:58,468 --> 00:39:01,068 Speaker 1: loved ones and people that you trust. Play this out 782 00:39:01,108 --> 00:39:05,028 Speaker 1: for us, Trayvon number one, Jacksonville decides that they're gonna 783 00:39:05,028 --> 00:39:07,868 Speaker 1: take a Hutchinson, They're gonna take your Kwanu or Evan Neil, 784 00:39:07,988 --> 00:39:10,188 Speaker 1: and you don't end up being the first overall pick. 785 00:39:10,268 --> 00:39:13,908 Speaker 1: How would you feel about that? I wouldn't bothered me. 786 00:39:14,188 --> 00:39:17,148 Speaker 1: It wouldn't bothered me too much because mainly, like I said, 787 00:39:17,268 --> 00:39:21,348 Speaker 1: just blessed me in this position and coming from college, 788 00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:23,148 Speaker 1: who got to the NFL to be able to pay 789 00:39:23,468 --> 00:39:25,348 Speaker 1: you able to get paid to do something I love 790 00:39:25,428 --> 00:39:29,268 Speaker 1: to do. I really can't complain about that, something that 791 00:39:29,308 --> 00:39:32,548 Speaker 1: I always joined the whole life just to be able 792 00:39:32,548 --> 00:39:37,188 Speaker 1: to play the n It's truly blessed. M Now, the 793 00:39:37,268 --> 00:39:41,068 Speaker 1: higher you're expected to go, the more nitpicking and critiquing 794 00:39:41,068 --> 00:39:43,028 Speaker 1: that happens. So I want to talk about some of 795 00:39:43,028 --> 00:39:45,188 Speaker 1: those people that you just said are sleeping on you 796 00:39:45,228 --> 00:39:46,868 Speaker 1: and give you a chance to sort of address some 797 00:39:46,948 --> 00:39:49,108 Speaker 1: of that. Forty eight hours until the draft. You have 798 00:39:49,148 --> 00:39:51,588 Speaker 1: such an incredible impact on the field, and you do 799 00:39:51,628 --> 00:39:53,428 Speaker 1: it on these big stages. You're about to enter the 800 00:39:53,428 --> 00:39:55,788 Speaker 1: biggest stage. So how do you want to respond right 801 00:39:55,828 --> 00:39:58,468 Speaker 1: now to anyone who says that your stats might not 802 00:39:58,548 --> 00:40:00,908 Speaker 1: be as overwhelming as they'd like to see from a 803 00:40:00,948 --> 00:40:03,748 Speaker 1: guy who should and I hope goes to number one. 804 00:40:04,908 --> 00:40:06,748 Speaker 1: People like that. I just have a little note that 805 00:40:06,748 --> 00:40:10,308 Speaker 1: everybody's tied to their own opinion, Like everybody can't have 806 00:40:10,428 --> 00:40:12,588 Speaker 1: their own view on things. There's nothing wrong with that, 807 00:40:13,028 --> 00:40:15,388 Speaker 1: but me, I just know on the heartwork I know 808 00:40:15,468 --> 00:40:18,028 Speaker 1: I am. It's I want to be the best, and 809 00:40:18,108 --> 00:40:20,748 Speaker 1: I am the best. So, like I said, everybody's been 810 00:40:20,748 --> 00:40:25,228 Speaker 1: tied to their own opinion. Yeah, Trey Vonnie said, they 811 00:40:25,268 --> 00:40:27,428 Speaker 1: might have been sleeping on you, but you've got everybody 812 00:40:27,468 --> 00:40:30,628 Speaker 1: wide awake right now. I want to go back here. 813 00:40:30,748 --> 00:40:33,908 Speaker 1: So your defense just absolutely dominated the fourth core of 814 00:40:33,948 --> 00:40:38,108 Speaker 1: the National Championship game against Alabama. What will be your 815 00:40:38,228 --> 00:40:41,148 Speaker 1: lasting memory of that game and how much did it 816 00:40:41,148 --> 00:40:43,748 Speaker 1: mean to you to bring home to your home state 817 00:40:44,028 --> 00:40:50,308 Speaker 1: it's first national championship title since nineteen eighty. I had 818 00:40:50,348 --> 00:40:52,548 Speaker 1: to say one of my last memories from that game, 819 00:40:52,668 --> 00:40:54,908 Speaker 1: I really can't sin remember right now. My head is 820 00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:58,628 Speaker 1: one of my teammates, Julia rod Chester, just breaking down 821 00:40:58,628 --> 00:41:01,708 Speaker 1: in tears. Everyone knows he's one of the oldest players 822 00:41:01,748 --> 00:41:05,468 Speaker 1: on the team. He lost Obama's in the championship a 823 00:41:05,468 --> 00:41:07,668 Speaker 1: couple of years back, and just getting here for him 824 00:41:08,588 --> 00:41:11,268 Speaker 1: to win for my state, for the university, it really 825 00:41:11,308 --> 00:41:12,828 Speaker 1: means a lot to be able to do that for 826 00:41:12,948 --> 00:41:15,308 Speaker 1: my own hometown state. That's why I say it at 827 00:41:15,308 --> 00:41:19,308 Speaker 1: the University of Georgia and came here like everybody bought 828 00:41:19,348 --> 00:41:23,028 Speaker 1: in the commons real amongst the team and everything he 829 00:41:23,108 --> 00:41:26,548 Speaker 1: paid up and just winning the Nasal championship for the 830 00:41:26,628 --> 00:41:29,548 Speaker 1: University of Georgia, it was true little blessing, something that's 831 00:41:29,748 --> 00:41:31,868 Speaker 1: never going to be for gutting and its history. It's 832 00:41:31,908 --> 00:41:36,188 Speaker 1: in the history books. That's that's really cool, Trey Von. 833 00:41:36,348 --> 00:41:38,508 Speaker 1: So go back to that game. There was a play 834 00:41:38,508 --> 00:41:41,788 Speaker 1: from that National championship game that everyone buzzing. But it 835 00:41:41,868 --> 00:41:45,228 Speaker 1: wasn't your game ceiling sack. It was at Chase down 836 00:41:45,228 --> 00:41:47,788 Speaker 1: the Alabama receiver. I mean, walk us through this play 837 00:41:47,828 --> 00:41:50,188 Speaker 1: we're gonna show right now, walk us through. Tell us 838 00:41:50,228 --> 00:41:53,908 Speaker 1: not only what that says about your game physically, but 839 00:41:54,108 --> 00:41:58,988 Speaker 1: mentally and emotionally. Look at that right here. It was 840 00:41:59,028 --> 00:42:01,308 Speaker 1: really nothing too special about just play other than me 841 00:42:01,388 --> 00:42:05,748 Speaker 1: just going covering down to the football. Obviously, as I'm 842 00:42:05,788 --> 00:42:08,468 Speaker 1: covered down to the football, coming people missing tackle over 843 00:42:08,588 --> 00:42:11,508 Speaker 1: Randon or whatever, and I just see everything opened up. 844 00:42:11,748 --> 00:42:13,948 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at nothing but him in my view, 845 00:42:13,988 --> 00:42:18,228 Speaker 1: and I gotta get this ball out or just get 846 00:42:18,268 --> 00:42:20,308 Speaker 1: him down. I'm not a little scog. The huge score 847 00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:24,108 Speaker 1: definitely tank the whole momentum of the game. But I know, 848 00:42:24,228 --> 00:42:28,948 Speaker 1: Kirby Love that really definitely just one of those guys 849 00:42:29,468 --> 00:42:34,868 Speaker 1: job covered down and in the game. See see we 850 00:42:34,908 --> 00:42:36,268 Speaker 1: have Scott Pielly here at the table, one of the 851 00:42:36,268 --> 00:42:38,948 Speaker 1: premiere talent evaluators of this generation, and he's blown away 852 00:42:38,948 --> 00:42:40,348 Speaker 1: by the play and you're like, it's not that big 853 00:42:40,388 --> 00:42:42,268 Speaker 1: of a deal. It's just me playing football. And that's 854 00:42:42,348 --> 00:42:44,748 Speaker 1: really how you act out there. It's incredible. Yeah, I 855 00:42:45,108 --> 00:42:48,148 Speaker 1: wonder this traym A few years back, Miles Garrett was 856 00:42:48,148 --> 00:42:49,668 Speaker 1: coming out of Texas saying am he ended up being 857 00:42:49,708 --> 00:42:51,668 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick to Cleveland and he was 858 00:42:51,708 --> 00:42:54,748 Speaker 1: asked what quarterback would you like to sack when you 859 00:42:54,828 --> 00:42:56,948 Speaker 1: get in the league, and he said Ben Roethlisberger. He said, 860 00:42:56,948 --> 00:43:00,508 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, Who would it be a dream for you? 861 00:43:00,668 --> 00:43:02,788 Speaker 1: A dream come true if I could sack this guy 862 00:43:02,908 --> 00:43:09,188 Speaker 1: someway almost ever be Tom Brady used to go watch 863 00:43:09,308 --> 00:43:12,108 Speaker 1: this side grew up, so it'll be a very special 864 00:43:12,148 --> 00:43:16,028 Speaker 1: moment just to get that sack on Tom Brady. It's 865 00:43:16,068 --> 00:43:18,788 Speaker 1: a great answer. And the guy's got seven Super Bowls 866 00:43:18,868 --> 00:43:20,548 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you grew up watching them like I 867 00:43:20,548 --> 00:43:23,188 Speaker 1: feel like we all did. And in the meantime, something 868 00:43:23,268 --> 00:43:25,748 Speaker 1: I let's shift. Here's just a little bit. National championship 869 00:43:25,788 --> 00:43:28,428 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. You've talked about it for months now. What 870 00:43:28,588 --> 00:43:30,548 Speaker 1: needs to be talked about more, Trey Vonn was that 871 00:43:30,588 --> 00:43:35,868 Speaker 1: you won seventy one straight high school basketball games at 872 00:43:35,988 --> 00:43:40,148 Speaker 1: Ups and Lee High in Thomaston, Georgia, and you're smiling 873 00:43:40,188 --> 00:43:42,308 Speaker 1: already wait to see us smile. Well, we're gonna run 874 00:43:42,348 --> 00:43:45,228 Speaker 1: some clips of you dunking and warm ups. Tell us 875 00:43:45,268 --> 00:43:47,668 Speaker 1: about being a high school player and some of the 876 00:43:47,788 --> 00:43:52,668 Speaker 1: rockets that we're seeing here. I mean, yeah, in high school, 877 00:43:52,668 --> 00:43:54,588 Speaker 1: I was just one of those guys. I always played 878 00:43:54,628 --> 00:43:58,148 Speaker 1: basketball brow enough, but I really can't say basketball. I 879 00:43:58,188 --> 00:44:00,828 Speaker 1: really used to be my true love, one of the 880 00:44:00,868 --> 00:44:05,668 Speaker 1: first loves for me, and just I loved anything I 881 00:44:05,668 --> 00:44:07,948 Speaker 1: can do to be Adams, I'm going to do it. 882 00:44:08,148 --> 00:44:10,828 Speaker 1: I always stuck with basketball, played it all the way through. 883 00:44:10,828 --> 00:44:17,228 Speaker 1: I'm my sire. It's an amazing, amazing collection of dunks 884 00:44:17,308 --> 00:44:21,348 Speaker 1: and listen, Trayvon, we are unbelievably excited to meet you. 885 00:44:21,468 --> 00:44:23,228 Speaker 1: We've been talking about you so much. I know it's 886 00:44:23,228 --> 00:44:25,468 Speaker 1: only a couple of days away from your from your 887 00:44:25,548 --> 00:44:27,828 Speaker 1: dreams coming through and if you do go number one 888 00:44:27,828 --> 00:44:30,308 Speaker 1: overall to Jacksonville, we will have a party for you. 889 00:44:30,348 --> 00:44:32,108 Speaker 1: And wherever you go, that's where you wound up. Man. 890 00:44:32,188 --> 00:44:35,148 Speaker 1: But so glad you came here first. Tray Von. You're great, dude, 891 00:44:35,268 --> 00:44:38,508 Speaker 1: good luck. Thank you all so much for having me,