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Speaker 1: You almost have to try to mess California up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what Gavin Newsom has done since he's been governor.

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Speaker 1: He's the first governor to ever lose population. They actually

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Speaker 1: at one point ran out of U hauls in the

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Speaker 1: state of California because so many people were leaving. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he's imposed restrictions on his own people while exempting himself

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Speaker 1: from those restrictions and going to the French laundry while

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Speaker 1: his people were suffering. He led the country in school closures,

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Speaker 1: locking kids out of school, while he had his own

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Speaker 1: kids in private school. In person, now, he's very good

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Speaker 1: at spinning these tales. He's good at being slick and slippery.

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Speaker 1: He'll tell a blizzard of lies to be able to

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Speaker 1: try to mask the failures. But the reality is they

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Speaker 1: have failed because of his leftist ideology. And the choice

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Speaker 1: for America is this what Biden and Harris and k

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Speaker 1: news want to do is take the California model and

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Speaker 1: do that nationally. In Florida, we showed the conservative principles work.

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Speaker 1: This country must choose freedom failure.

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Speaker 2: The Santus came out hot last night.

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Speaker 3: That was his opening remark about he's going to hit

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Speaker 3: you with a blizzard of lies the debate between Ron

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Speaker 3: De Santus of Florida and Gavin Newsom of California.

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Speaker 2: I was so excited about it.

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Speaker 3: What effect it will have, whether electorally or ideologically in America,

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm sure it'll be less than

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Speaker 3: I would hope. By the way, that a response to

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Speaker 2: He didn't respond to it, right, Yeah, I dodged it completely.

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Speaker 3: I know one interested observer along with the US and you,

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Speaker 3: was Kevin Kyleie, Congressman for the third Congressional district in California. Also, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: most articulate and thorough critics of Gavin Newsom and progressive

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Speaker 3: politics in California around and he joins us, Now, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: how are you, sir?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing very well.

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Speaker 2: How are you good? Good?

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Speaker 3: Did you force yourself to watch most or all of

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Speaker 4: That's a good term for it, having to listen to

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Speaker 5: But you know, I actually felt like it was important

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Speaker 5: airtime with a whole array of completely.

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Speaker 4: False and misleading statements. So I actually, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 5: On Twitter or x and trying to keep up fact

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Speaker 5: in life of California was understood for those watching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I followed your Twitter feed during and after the debate.

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Speaker 3: What stood out to you most in terms of misleading

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, where do we even start. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the governor has this way of sort of just asserting

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Speaker 5: the most absurd thing possible, Like, you know, Florida was

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Speaker 5: a lockdown state, when California by far had the worst

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Speaker 5: for the governor to stand up there and assert that

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Speaker 5: the governor of Florida shut down schools when actually Florida

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Speaker 5: California was fiftieth in the country and getting back.

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Speaker 3: To California was which is why my oldest is in

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Speaker 5: Absolutely worst in the country.

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Speaker 4: Fiftieth out of fifty.

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Speaker 5: And that's true, by the way, across basically everything with COVID,

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Speaker 4: In record numbers.

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Speaker 5: California has led the nation and UHUL rentals each of

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Speaker 4: This has never happened before.

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Speaker 5: In our history. We've gained population every single year. The

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Speaker 5: We have so much to offer. So we've run each

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to get hung up on

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Speaker 4: Kevin.

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Speaker 3: I know you have some pretty strong feelings about the

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Speaker 5: Sure, I mean, Newsom made some claims about how he's

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Speaker 4: Maybe the one true thing that he.

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Speaker 5: Said in the entire debate is that he has poured

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Speaker 4: Has gotten worse and worse.

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Speaker 5: California's homeless population has grown fifteen times faster than the

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Speaker 5: California at this point has half the unsheltered homeless in

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Speaker 4: And you know this has only gotten worse on Diston's.

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Speaker 3: Watch, indirectly back to the COVID thing. So the reason

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Speaker 5: Well, the statistics are very clear, which is that California

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Speaker 4: Did worse from a public health perspective, and.

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Speaker 5: Then we had the absolute calamity to our economy, to

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Speaker 5: hard to imagine a more consequential failure of political leadership

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Speaker 5: Newsom is desperate, desperate to rewrite history.

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Speaker 4: Simply try to put it through.

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Speaker 5: I call it the COVID memory hold, to pretend we

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Speaker 4: We didn't do these lockdowns and everything else.

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Speaker 5: But you know, we have forty million people who actually

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Speaker 5: change now who remember all too well what we had

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Speaker 3: Well, he was up there defending the end defensible, and

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Speaker 3: you've got to admire his pluck and even trying that.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Colley's the congressman third District California on the line,

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Speaker 3: what did you make of the exchange about pornography in schools, or,

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Speaker 3: as Gavy would put it, the book banning binge in Florida.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the interesting thing about this is that

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Speaker 5: you can ask the governor. He's talking about all of

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Speaker 5: these books that are allegedly banned, so you can ask them, Okay, well,

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Speaker 5: what grade level do you think kids should have access

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Speaker 5: be available in every grade level.

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Speaker 4: So this idea that we're banning books is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: The entire you know, issue is about what materials are

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Speaker 5: age appropriate for which age groups. But the larger point

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Speaker 5: is this, Gavin Newsom loves talking about this. This state

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Speaker 5: is than in this book the status that he is

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Speaker 5: very concerned about what kids in other states are reading.

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Speaker 4: He's not an all.

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Speaker 5: Concerned with the fact that our own kids in California

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Speaker 4: We have eight hundred schools.

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Speaker 4: Our eighth grade.

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Speaker 5: Our eighth grade reading scores are the very worst in

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Speaker 5: In fact, there was a lawsuit the state had to

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Speaker 4: By the way, I was.

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Speaker 5: A tenth grade English teacher in inner City, LA and Maya.

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Speaker 4: I saw this first hand. I've top tenth.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Well, maybe I'm more concerned about the genderbread person

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Speaker 2: But that is shocking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about an under appreciated problem nationwide, and

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Speaker 3: It's just amazing. I don't even want to go to

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Speaker 3: because I think on its face it's awful and immoral.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that they're not learning the very basics

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Speaker 2: How could you disagree with that?

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Speaker 3: Well, the only way you can disagree is put it

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Speaker 3: the way Gavin would have last night. Joe Getty is

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Speaker 3: against the rights of LGBTQ plus minus students, which is

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Speaker 5: He needs to take the basic failures of government and

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Speaker 5: And frankly, our whole governing class in California is to

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Speaker 4: The opportunities they need to succeed in life.

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Speaker 5: That they're not being taught the basics and try to

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Speaker 5: conceal all of that with this smoke screen of sort

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Speaker 5: of cartoonishly woke or progressive policies.

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Speaker 4: That's the playbook.

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Speaker 5: In California, and you know, it's what is enabling Newsom

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Speaker 5: to go out and somehow tout California as a model

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Speaker 5: for the nation because it's where sort of these uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, progressive policies have been taken to the utmost extreme.

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Speaker 5: But if you look at the actual results in places

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Speaker 5: like San Francisco, in places like Los Angeles, where they

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Speaker 5: tell you not even to where your jewelry when you

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Speaker 5: go outside, it's very clear that California is not some

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Speaker 5: model for the nation, like Newsom says, it's a warning

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Speaker 5: to the nation about the terrible consequences of these policies.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Kyleie, Congressman, third District, California. If you are not

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Speaker 3: familiar with Kevin, you are now You've got to follow

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Speaker 3: him on x or Twitter, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 3: One of the truly effective fighters for reasonable, realistic conservative values.

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Speaker 3: Kevin well done, is always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: That rising star right there, yeah, Armstrong and Getty