Speaker 1: God like a father. He has two children. He has
Speaker 1: his he has Man, that's his son, and he has
Speaker 1: Satan and that's his son. And Satan is a jealous brother.
Speaker 1: A jealous brother. It doesn't like like Satan doesn't like
Speaker 1: the way God treats man. He's jealous of the relationship
Speaker 1: between God and man. So what he does is he
Speaker 1: goes about ways to show man ain't ship to God.
Speaker 1: He's setting him up right. It's like it's like if
Speaker 1: it was a father and two kids, right to two sons.
Speaker 1: And you know, um, he said a knife right here,
Speaker 1: he told his little he stold. He told his brother,
Speaker 1: stabbed a pillow, It's gonna make you feel better. And
Speaker 1: then he stabbing a pillow, getting the stabbed a pillow.
Speaker 1: And when the dad walks in, he like, Dad, look,
Speaker 1: she I told you he ain't ship and you just
Speaker 1: with the knife looking still. I genuinely believe intellect is
Speaker 1: more than the ability to process. I think it's like vision,
Speaker 1: even outside a quick wit, just vision, and you gotta
Speaker 1: have vision pass what you can see. Um. But but
Speaker 1: back to the I digress, right back to what we
Speaker 1: were talking about. Um, like if you don't have the
Speaker 1: economics so people like people from our community, right, like
Speaker 1: people from where I'm from, they don't really genuinely believe
Speaker 1: they could change their circumstances. That's the that's the trick,
Speaker 1: I mean, and from years and years of like and
Speaker 1: I hate using that term systemic opression because it's being
Speaker 1: thrown around by a whole bunch of oppressors right now.
Speaker 1: And racism was lost as many It's horrible. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the real deal. You know, somebody being at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the totem pole right where for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: you know, um, that group has really been ill afforded
Speaker 1: opportunity to change circumstances. Um. So it's like water memory
Speaker 1: of suffering, I mean, where it's like you already in
Speaker 1: a hole because of just generations of being in the hole, right,
Speaker 1: just literally just generations. I mean most people, like I said,
Speaker 1: why I grew up at right where I grew up at,
Speaker 1: they start off with bad credit. Yeah, so when they
Speaker 1: when they turned eighteen, a motherfucker will have bad credit.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my man Tommy Soto Mayor, who does
Speaker 1: a great job of talking about your mom and dad
Speaker 1: putting the electric bill in your name when you were
Speaker 1: five years old and you wake up one day with
Speaker 1: your own credit that it's already destroyed. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: happening for real. That's not that's not just an expression, right,
Speaker 1: that's a real thing. And so outside of just generations
Speaker 1: of being pushed in the hole, right, as as a
Speaker 1: black person in America, Um, you start off your own
Speaker 1: life being put in the whole. And you know when
Speaker 1: you grew up where we grew up at, right, there's
Speaker 1: so many opportunities. There's just this lack of opportunities. And
Speaker 1: like I said, if you and Watson Compton, there's these
Speaker 1: are very much urban communities right that that really have
Speaker 1: careers right in range like walking distance, there's careers and
Speaker 1: walking distance where we're from, where you could pretty much
Speaker 1: make a livable wage and take care of your family
Speaker 1: and start your kids off with an extra opportunity to
Speaker 1: even go further than you. But my whole life, I've
Speaker 1: never met anybody that worked in those facilities on Alameter
Speaker 1: all these you know, thousands of jobs that's available right there. Um,
Speaker 1: so we could talk like cryptocurrency, I knew I'd love
Speaker 1: to have on to talk about this. A guy who
Speaker 1: I bumped into a few times My first job out
Speaker 1: of college was waste management on else A gundoing Alameter
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's dad was I met him. I would love
Speaker 1: to get that guy in the podcast. Yeah, I met him.
Speaker 1: He's a dope though, and Russell Westbrook Pops is dope too.
Speaker 1: I don't know, um, But and I think what happens
Speaker 1: amongst black people, right, I think there's a definitely a
Speaker 1: a sentiment altogether that something is wrong. I think everybody
Speaker 1: agrees that the treatment of people that are isn't correct
Speaker 1: in America. But I think the issue is how they
Speaker 1: all see it. So, like, I definitely know black people
Speaker 1: that's been successful that feel like what's funny is like
Speaker 1: you should feel you know, you gotta pull yourself up
Speaker 1: by your bootstrap, as crazy as that's saying, Like it
Speaker 1: is people in our community right that feel just like that,
Speaker 1: And that I think is the problem. Like I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't truly believe people get the real way to
Speaker 1: oppress somebody is through economics. The brutality is nothing, Yeah
Speaker 1: you know, I mean economics is the true way to
Speaker 1: oppress somebody, to strip somebody of identity, opportunity. It creates monsters, right,
Speaker 1: So with that being said, no seilings, Gil Peter Us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just own some ship right now. So y'all just
Speaker 1: chill funk with it. It's crazy. But I think that's
Speaker 1: the problem. I think all the whole, like my whole,
Speaker 1: the whole black community is not on one accords. There's
Speaker 1: too many conversations, right, there's conversations about justice, m right um,
Speaker 1: their conversation. Like I was looking at the NBA last
Speaker 1: year right in the playoffs, Like we're in the playoffs
Speaker 1: this year, but last year they had all of these
Speaker 1: things on their jerseys and it was like, oh, justice
Speaker 1: or equality all this crazy ship, And I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: hard to make it work when the wealth of the
Speaker 1: black community don't understand. The problem is economic and opportunity. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reason, I genuinely believe the reason police treat black
Speaker 1: people bad, it's because they are Humanity treats it's poor
Speaker 1: bad historically. Yeah, you know, back in the day, it's
Speaker 1: easy because poor people can't defend themselves. So in America,
Speaker 1: black people are the face of poor people. And I
Speaker 1: think it's a problem, but I think it's a big
Speaker 1: problem that I don't know what how would you describe
Speaker 1: the term like leaders of black rhetoric play that card
Speaker 1: all the time and project out that message to the
Speaker 1: rest of the country all the time. Well it's a business,
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, I'm just saying it's not helpful. Well
Speaker 1: they weren't, I don't think. Remember we were just talking
Speaker 1: about good and evil being like a really you know,
Speaker 1: fine line. I think they start off with like the
Speaker 1: right intentions. I think they genuinely start off obviously to
Speaker 1: help people, and they start off to be like, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I can make a living helping people. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think along the lines, they start getting information
Speaker 1: that makes them believe it's something they can't fix, and
Speaker 1: then money becomes the main thing, Like it becomes a
Speaker 1: real business, and you start to get some disincentivized factors
Speaker 1: as far as fixing things, you know, because the reality
Speaker 1: is it at some point, if the problem that is
Speaker 1: your life's mission is no longer a problem, you've lost
Speaker 1: the mission, you know, to some degree. Well yeah, but
Speaker 1: but I think as you get in more doors, I
Speaker 1: think you have these beliefs. I think most most most
Speaker 1: brothers start off with a belief of what's going on,
Speaker 1: and they pit point it's so strong they pinpointed so
Speaker 1: well that they believe this is literally the problem, right,
Speaker 1: They literally believe this is the problem. And once they
Speaker 1: get through a couple of those economic and opportunity doors,
Speaker 1: that's not the problem. So then it becomes like, I
Speaker 1: have no idea what's wrong. I just know something it's wrong,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give my money, but I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: saying something is wrong. And I think as a whole,
Speaker 1: like my community, can't really all come together and realize
Speaker 1: the conversation is in economics and opportunity. That's the only problem.
Speaker 1: I don't give two funks about what no police motherfucker's doing.
Speaker 1: The problem is how people treat poor people. And in America,
Speaker 1: we are the face of poor people around the world,
Speaker 1: if you ask people, what's the face of poor people?
Speaker 1: Is going to be an African person with a fly
Speaker 1: on his eye, with a with a with a child
Speaker 1: to inflate the stomach. And again, because people are so
Speaker 1: horrible to each other, you know, they don't treat poor
Speaker 1: people correctly. The fact that we have wealthy and poor
Speaker 1: people is the biggest problem to me and humanity. And
Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy, but it's true because it
Speaker 1: should never be somebody with dirty bedrooms and two kids,
Speaker 1: and some you know, uh with two kids in the
Speaker 1: thirty bedroom house, and then somebody with thirty kids and
Speaker 1: the two bedroom house. There's no being a The verb
Speaker 1: of being a human being humane is literally just saying
Speaker 1: the welfare you know of other people. And I think
Speaker 1: we just do a horrible job at it as a
Speaker 1: as a as a as a world. We don't do
Speaker 1: great as we can. But I also think, because you know,
Speaker 1: back to the concept of capitalism, not the base, not
Speaker 1: the base for him, right, that that that's the definition,
Speaker 1: but that extreme form that we all know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. I think you start believing everybody has the
Speaker 1: same chance you had, and I think that's not true.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the one mistake human that's the
Speaker 1: one fatal flaw of human beings. To believe that we
Speaker 1: all are equal or we all started off the same,
Speaker 1: it's just not true. And so no matter what system
Speaker 1: we're talking about, right, whether we're talking about courts, like
Speaker 1: if I'm from where I'm from, right, and and we
Speaker 1: grew up in this jungle, it's a real jungle, right,
Speaker 1: Watching comps is a real fucking jungle, And you know,
Speaker 1: it's a sense of justice. It's already a justice system.
Speaker 1: Funk with America's talking about these it's already rules and
Speaker 1: least that come with real punishments. So America could have
Speaker 1: his overall sense. Right. But just like there's a federal law, right,
Speaker 1: there's a state law. Well, there is a neighborhood law,
Speaker 1: there's a community laws. So I say that to say
Speaker 1: when they say a jury of my peers, right, my
Speaker 1: peer is not somebody who lived in Orange County, you know,
Speaker 1: in Buena Park. Yeah, that that person is not my peer.
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest issue of me to go
Speaker 1: back to your route of economics. If you have the
Speaker 1: economic means, you have legal counsel that will fight it
Speaker 1: out over a motion of a change of venue exactly
Speaker 1: whereas if you don't, you've got the phone and in
Speaker 1: guy who's getting the same page check from the same
Speaker 1: office every two weeks, like he does anything else for
Speaker 1: a living, and it's not his fault. See the thing
Speaker 1: about like back to the conversation we had about capitalism,
Speaker 1: who was talking about slavery. I don't believe it's the
Speaker 1: white folk fault here that balls slaves. That sounds crazy
Speaker 1: but I think if you give any human being the
Speaker 1: opportunity to achieve or to to earn in a way
Speaker 1: that at that time is socially accepted, they're gonna take
Speaker 1: the opportunity. Like if like, if we had a society
Speaker 1: full of like where prostitution was cool, like nobody frowned
Speaker 1: upon it, right, everybody would be prostitutes, like women would
Speaker 1: like right now even in our community, right, Um, being
Speaker 1: a stripper, it's not a it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: It's literally has been washed out. It's not a bad thing, bro,
Speaker 1: It's it's generations of girls becoming strippers. It's generations of
Speaker 1: girls dressing like strippers, you know what what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I think that's where it's all being confused, that like
Speaker 1: the true oppression is in economics. It's only in economics, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like the brutality portion is always gonna be
Speaker 1: overrated no matter what, you know, if if if if
Speaker 1: I pitched to Yo Pops or like somebody from you know,
Speaker 1: Newport Beach. Hey, man, the police are killing black people.
Speaker 1: You know what, They're gonna show me. They're gonna show
Speaker 1: me how few was happening, because it's still only very little.
Speaker 1: I mean if it was three hundred motherfucker's get killed,
Speaker 1: that's very few. With billies and motherfucker's you gotta right.
Speaker 1: And they can show me crime statistics, which you know
Speaker 1: you still can't kill criminals. But it's also the problem.
Speaker 1: It's less care for criminals unless you're a rich criminal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it still goes back to poor and rich. So
Speaker 1: the oppressor, right, is using economic and opportunity to oppress. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't genuinely think it's done. I mean, just like
Speaker 1: with Satan, I don't think Satan thinks. Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: think Satan is like I just don't like Man, so
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take it out on them. I think
Speaker 1: Satan is jealous of God's affinity and relationship with Man,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to get a market share. Well, he's
Speaker 1: trying to enlarge his market share, right, He's like, why
Speaker 1: you like them? They ain't ship and PEPSI wants a
Speaker 1: foothold and and because no, no, so funny, So no, right,
Speaker 1: So I look at God like a father. He has
Speaker 1: two children. He has his he has Man, that's his son,
Speaker 1: and he has Satan and that's his son. And Satan
Speaker 1: is a of us brother, a jealous brother. It doesn't
Speaker 1: like like Satan doesn't like the way God treats man.
Speaker 1: He's jealous of the relationship between God and man. So
Speaker 1: what he does is he goes about ways to show
Speaker 1: man ain't ship to God. He's setting him up right.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like if it was a father and
Speaker 1: two kids, right to two sons, and you know, um,
Speaker 1: he said a knife right here, he told his little
Speaker 1: he stold. He told his brother, stabbed a pillow, it's
Speaker 1: gonna make you feel better. And then he stabbing a pillow,
Speaker 1: getting the stabbed a pillow, and when the dad walks in,
Speaker 1: he like, Dad, look, I told you he ain't ship,
Speaker 1: and you just with the knife looking stupid. But God
Speaker 1: the whole time is like you got this boy the knife.
Speaker 1: So that's to me, the dynamic of it. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what greed represents to me. It's like, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: people are like flawed, so like they already have their
Speaker 1: own issues, So when you exploit their issues for your
Speaker 1: own personal benefit, right, that's where it's sucked up. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what's happening. You have a bunch of
Speaker 1: people trying to have too much at the expense of
Speaker 1: people not having enough. Now, that may have not been
Speaker 1: their attention. I don't think nobody walked in like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get so much money that these niggas is gonna
Speaker 1: be broke, right. I don't think that was their intentions.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the oppressors of intentions. Initially. I
Speaker 1: think it was like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make sure i get God's glory. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get whatever the feeling I'm looking for. You feel me,
Speaker 1: and you know that's what I'm chasing because I don't
Speaker 1: feel worthy. I feel inadequate anyway. So I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be worthy. And then what happens along the way, right,
Speaker 1: just like with the people that run knows like black
Speaker 1: lives matter, what happens along the way is um you.
Speaker 1: You you start dealing with what happens to anybody. As
Speaker 1: you accumulate anything, you want too much of it, right,
Speaker 1: you start having problems. You start you start realizing it's
Speaker 1: probably affecting other things not correctly. Right. It's like like
Speaker 1: if you're a wealthy man and you realize, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get money and as you're getting money, you
Speaker 1: realize it's costing somebody else money. You start. Even as
Speaker 1: a drug dealer, that used to be my mind state,
Speaker 1: Like I used to be like yo um. I used
Speaker 1: to pride myself and selling the highest quality drug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't stepped on my I ain't cut my serne
Speaker 1: with no break fluid. Then I was only using and
Speaker 1: drops and all either I was only using andy. I
Speaker 1: was using the highest quality ship. I never had bad ship.
Speaker 1: I never cut it to make more money, and I
Speaker 1: prided myself in it. And what I used to tell
Speaker 1: myself us man, people was making a conscious choice to
Speaker 1: come by. I'm just the person selling it to him,
Speaker 1: and I'm selling them the highest quality ship. What I
Speaker 1: what I got lost with was once I realized they
Speaker 1: wasn't making a conscious choice to buy, then I knew
Speaker 1: it was wrong. And that's the time when human beings
Speaker 1: just start making other decisions. Because I made other decisions,
Speaker 1: I was like, that ain't right, man, Like this girl
Speaker 1: pregnant and I just sold her some shurn. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: not a rational decision because now you're not making a
Speaker 1: decision for yourself, You're making a decision for somebody that's
Speaker 1: not even on earth yet, you know. I mean, that
Speaker 1: hasn't even came into the world, that haven't came out
Speaker 1: your womb. That's not rational. That day I knew, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is different. When I was selling it
Speaker 1: to us, I didn't mind selling it to a sixty
Speaker 1: something year old lady in her fourty year old son.
Speaker 1: I thought that was rational. When when that pregnant lady
Speaker 1: came and bought Concern, I was like, that day, is
Speaker 1: it changed it. It's like, oh, they don't. This ain't rational.
Speaker 1: This is a real you know. Obviously I started reading
Speaker 1: more and it became more chemical. I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: that chemically dependent, like like me with white sugar, like
Speaker 1: refined sugar. I'm just as chemically dependent on it, maybe
Speaker 1: even more. But that was the time I made a
Speaker 1: decision to be humane. I made a decision to stop
Speaker 1: being oppressor, being the oppressor, because I was an oppressor
Speaker 1: at that point. No matter what a motherfucker say, as
Speaker 1: a D boy, my mind, not every D boy, because
Speaker 1: every D boy don't have the intellect to think what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. This is just how they make their living.
Speaker 1: They're not even It's like McDonald's like a chef and
Speaker 1: McDonald's flipping the burger. He don't, he's just making a living.
Speaker 1: Glasses had the intellect and division to understand that I
Speaker 1: became the oppressor and and once you know, now what's
Speaker 1: up to you once you can understand. So back to
Speaker 1: the point when we're talking oppressors and the reason a
Speaker 1: motherfucker can't save no money. They're not making a livable
Speaker 1: wage to even save money to change their circumstances. So
Speaker 1: they consistently do things to make themselves look better than
Speaker 1: they feel because they want you to treat them better.
Speaker 1: And it sounds crazy because you're like, well, you could
Speaker 1: just change your own circumstances and you will feel better,
Speaker 1: but they don't believe they can because of generations of
Speaker 1: economic oppression, right for fun being slaves and being hung.
Speaker 1: Let's say let's say a hundred thousand slaves was hung,
Speaker 1: could be more. It's millions of motherfucker's that wasn't paid
Speaker 1: to work, millions of motherfucker's that wasn't paid to work.
Speaker 1: That's e can coonomic oppression. To be denied the opportunity
Speaker 1: to vote on on things that change your economics, that's
Speaker 1: economic oppression, not the opportunity to go buy property and
Speaker 1: somebody else's bomb ass neighborhood that you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be worth something later. That's economic oppression. Fuck all the
Speaker 1: bullshit niggas are talking about. Fuck that this group of
Speaker 1: people that the NBA players are saying, Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: criminal justice for blah blah blah, police reform, man, don't
Speaker 1: funk what you do to them. I don't gonna fun
Speaker 1: how you reform. You can't reform the mind going into
Speaker 1: the job. That's what you have to reform. You have
Speaker 1: to stop. They have to stop seeing black people like
Speaker 1: the bottom of the fucking earth. And to make that happen,
Speaker 1: and to make that happen, they got to come up
Speaker 1: because I don't give a funk with nobody say you
Speaker 1: will never treat shock the way you treat little Boo Boo.
Speaker 1: Now you put your motherfucking hands on Shack. I don't
Speaker 1: get funk hot that nigga. Dark is the night that
Speaker 1: that motherfucker's skin dark as the night. If you do
Speaker 1: something to him, you have a world of ship as
Speaker 1: a police officer, as a as a precinct. It's gonna
Speaker 1: funk with your life because this man got it, and
Speaker 1: the world sees his value. That's why Look, look what
Speaker 1: happened with these with the with the whole Asian anti
Speaker 1: Asian ship. That's because people don't see them as the
Speaker 1: poorest people in America. They don't see them like that.
Speaker 1: Until six weeks ago, the biggest systemic issue involving Asian
Speaker 1: people was the fact that Harvard deliberately set a higher
Speaker 1: bar for admission for Asian people. Exactly what's ship, and
Speaker 1: they still jumped over that ship. It was funny, but
Speaker 1: in fact, I'm saying, because they value their dollars, mm,
Speaker 1: they don't have to do nothing for us because we
Speaker 1: don't got no fucking money. And then once we get money, right,
Speaker 1: we disconnect from the people who don't have money, because
Speaker 1: we'd be like man e mother gonna run us broke,
Speaker 1: because really we'll be lying about how much money we
Speaker 1: got in the first place. I think most of the
Speaker 1: rap contracts is a damn lie. I think most of
Speaker 1: the nigga is publishing the net worth is a damn lie.
Speaker 1: I know it's a lie because I know how you
Speaker 1: how you build up. Miss Charlotte Mayne argue about this
Speaker 1: all the time. That's a lie and if it's not
Speaker 1: a some assets that are not what they are commonly
Speaker 1: perceived to be. So, but that's my point of this conversation. Though, sure, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: so I was fired now I'm just think about it, though,
Speaker 1: think about it like the way you really oppress human beings,
Speaker 1: you deny them economic if that's is an opportunity entirely,
Speaker 1: that's the only way there's there. And there are great examples,
Speaker 1: I mean examples of people like I mean, I have
Speaker 1: a you know, a fair number of interaction with with
Speaker 1: people that I have known personally and whatnot. Who who
Speaker 1: came here from communist China back in the seventies and
Speaker 1: eighties when it was when it wasn't the communist China
Speaker 1: we're talking about today, the the fuzzy nights. Everybody's got
Speaker 1: some much like honestly, this communist trying to low key
Speaker 1: is worse. Nobody would ever say it. But if you,
Speaker 1: if you oversane, what they do more dangerous. It is crazy.
Speaker 1: Well I'll say this much though. I was actually when
Speaker 1: I was four, I was a ring bear in a
Speaker 1: wedding between two people named Lee different spellings and um
Speaker 1: the groom that it was like my dad's best friends
Speaker 1: his dad fled mainland China to Hong Kong, to the
Speaker 1: United States, and when the wow, what the funk? Not
Speaker 1: the great recept but whatever the term was that I
Speaker 1: think maw or his UH subsequent leader had put in
Speaker 1: at that time was he's like, you got to see
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall, They're gonna kill all of us.
Speaker 1: He fled literally with the clothes he had on, and
Speaker 1: they killed his whole family. Like there's not a single
Speaker 1: there's not a lead back there. So like but again
Speaker 1: you come here different landscape. You look at the Baltic
Speaker 1: States right now, they're doing very well, they're very free economically.
Speaker 1: The former Soviet republics, you know, I mean thirty years
Speaker 1: ago you're under the USSRS, Lithuania, Belarus, something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, not at all, not a thing at all.
Speaker 1: But we live in a constant, a constantly evolving landscape.
Speaker 1: And and this is a every landscape and time is unique.
Speaker 1: It's different from what was behind it, and what's coming
Speaker 1: in front of it right now is different than that
Speaker 1: they call, you know, an information age. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of readily available information two be distributed in ways that
Speaker 1: are easier than it has ever been before, and I
Speaker 1: do perceive a lot of that stuff is a crisis
Speaker 1: of information because I ain't that crazy and information age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then that's it's saturated an irony. There's no question
Speaker 1: about that. I would personally and again like this is
Speaker 1: all a matter of just I would like to see
Speaker 1: blank happened. It could There are people that can benefit
Speaker 1: from this conversation that I feel are missing out. And
Speaker 1: with that being said, I you might talk about the baseline,
Speaker 1: whether it's the most common or it's the lowest standard
Speaker 1: deviation on a on a earnings chart within the two
Speaker 1: or three zip codes and make up the watch area.
Speaker 1: And I think it's five nine zero to zero nine
Speaker 1: zero two zero two one nine zero five nine nine
Speaker 1: zero zero zero two nine two. How the hell did
Speaker 1: that one get down there? That's so strange. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: the twos, the nine zero two dot dot, that's all
Speaker 1: the Compton ones five is Compton is l A. That
Speaker 1: makes sense because you're like six six or zero zero
Speaker 1: six threes like West South South area nine zero four
Speaker 1: four is because nine zero zero one it's like city Hall.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Where is it? It's somewhere up there?
Speaker 1: Huh damn, huh. I believe, but I thought it was
Speaker 1: somewhere in that area. But I don't. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get lost yet. But yeah, the way you truly
Speaker 1: oppress of people is through economics. So I think as
Speaker 1: Brothers is coming up, they they start like, you don't
Speaker 1: hear them. You don't hear the brothers at the highest
Speaker 1: levels preaching reparations. Now, I'm not saying the conversation should be.
Speaker 1: I'm saying you we as a complete community, right my community,
Speaker 1: Black community gotta realize the thing is in economics. It
Speaker 1: ain't about you can't change them people mind if you
Speaker 1: broke it. Just it ain't no respect for poor people.
Speaker 1: It's just it's not it's around the world. I mean,
Speaker 1: the average human being in the black community don't treat
Speaker 1: poor people like it could be motherfucker's in the projects
Speaker 1: and they're gonna talk to a bum bad hm, which
Speaker 1: I think is a human being issue. Yeah. Well, not
Speaker 1: to get more like super mathematical on this, but and
Speaker 1: again this is not the numbers I'm gonna say are
Speaker 1: purely conversationally hypothetical. I didn't look up the numbers. I'm
Speaker 1: just throwing numbers out just so we're clear. If say,
Speaker 1: one in ten blackmails that grow up in nine double
Speaker 1: oh five nine hit it out of the park and
Speaker 1: some capacity they're going to leave, you know, and you
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna take with them, the how to
Speaker 1: information if they had it in the first place. Well,
Speaker 1: they they they bounced, so they went to college and
Speaker 1: got I'm saying that the earnings left if they had
Speaker 1: the information in the first place. Yeah, because I don't
Speaker 1: think I think se successful cases from where we're from,
Speaker 1: they kind of didn't know what happened. That's fair. I'm
Speaker 1: excluding that crowd. But but I'm saying, well, go ahead,
Speaker 1: so they shake, so they take the economics? Yeah, how
Speaker 1: to you take the money and the knowledge with you
Speaker 1: when you leave and you leave who behind? And A
Speaker 1: common talking point about various social evolution government programs and
Speaker 1: the and and the arc of progress in the greater
Speaker 1: Black community is the ratio on single mother households from
Speaker 1: six till today. Well, what I don't know if that
Speaker 1: is accurately reflective from a number standpoint of that dramatic
Speaker 1: of a shift in behavior so much as it is
Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers side, if you're economic
Speaker 1: outcome standpoint two, earning homes. You know, it's obvious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that also you're gonna have statistically less kids there,
Speaker 1: so on the aggregate. So with that, so like that
Speaker 1: per cent that was single parent households in sixty eight
Speaker 1: or whatever over to three generations two. Now, however many
Speaker 1: it is, what two or three, they might have incrementally
Speaker 1: more kids than that didn't it's going to have less.
Speaker 1: So you might be talking about not so much of
Speaker 1: a radical behavioral change among the community, but just simply
Speaker 1: a mathematical change. And that mathematical change would lead to
Speaker 1: because with the negative outcome correlation, everybody who leaves takes
Speaker 1: with them the value and the knowledge, and that is problematic.
Speaker 1: And like I was talking about on a podcast a
Speaker 1: while ago, the correlation between property value, property tax, and edgercation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get this gravitational circular situation. And now you know,
Speaker 1: we're in a time frame. It's it's different than nineteen five.
Speaker 1: And as far as being able to access knowledge and information,
Speaker 1: and there is a critical mass of people who have
Speaker 1: I mean, you can look at the last episode of California,
Speaker 1: I mean Mobile, Riverside, Palmer, all those places, a lot
Speaker 1: of places. That's why the demographics shift in South, particularly
Speaker 1: East Side South, it's so changed like Mexican movement. Well
Speaker 1: they had to move into somewhere, they had to move
Speaker 1: into a vacancy, so that was affordable. Yeah, well that
Speaker 1: was made afore because somebody else moved out, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's affordable or not, somebody whoever got the coin
Speaker 1: to get on because because nobody was seen in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, because nobody moved, because I need to get
Speaker 1: my family, the wattes, I'm gonna move to I E.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move to move out. It's like either you
Speaker 1: start making money, you're like, I want to get the
Speaker 1: other brand new track houses out there. Let's go. You're
Speaker 1: not moving from a ghetto to another ghetto. Yeah. At
Speaker 1: the time, yeah, you usually you didn't figured out something,
Speaker 1: and now you want more house for your money exactly,
Speaker 1: and used to get the same thing with like the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, Oakland and Richmond have changed demographically a lot. Pittsburgh, Oakley,
Speaker 1: places like that have changed demographically. That's the new I
Speaker 1: E of the Empire, the new of the bank. No, no,
Speaker 1: that's a good point, but it's still circles around the
Speaker 1: simple concept of no opportunity minus the gang banging. That's nothing.
Speaker 1: It's easy to get rid of gang bankers. I promise
Speaker 1: you it's easy. I know that sounds right. It's easy
Speaker 1: to get rid of gang banging. That's not hard, Like
Speaker 1: it's some kind of confusing that that's hard. That's not hard.
Speaker 1: People only of the people doing it don't have anything
Speaker 1: else to do. Yeah, I don't. I perceive gang banging.
Speaker 1: I perceive game bang as a symptom. And and I
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's a symptom, right, as much
Speaker 1: as it's the it's the economy. Has you nothing better
Speaker 1: to do to match the disease? And gang bang is
Speaker 1: a symptom. Yeah, I mean, wait a minute, no, the
Speaker 1: symptoms yeah, okay, okay, or symptoms it's another word I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah, I guess symptoms is the right word.
Speaker 1: It tells it's like a harpie is the bump. This
Speaker 1: gang banging is just it's not sure if you got
Speaker 1: if you got the flu, if you got the flu,
Speaker 1: it's not actually the snot out of this game bag. Sure,
Speaker 1: it's the virus is in your body. Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, the snotty knows is a symptom of the flu. Okay, sure,
Speaker 1: but if back to so back to the point we're
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, about you know, why people feel better,
Speaker 1: why they want to look better than they feel. They
Speaker 1: don't genuinely think they can change what's inside. Think about it, right,
Speaker 1: You're seeing a lot of sisters, right go out and
Speaker 1: get plastic surgeries that every last one of them, right,
Speaker 1: will lie and say, and not just the sisters, this
Speaker 1: is women. I take that back. You see a lot
Speaker 1: of women going to get plastic surgeries, right because whatever
Speaker 1: they feel, and and the and the first thing they'll
Speaker 1: tell you is, oh, I did this for myself. That's
Speaker 1: the last person you look at yourself the least. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anyone who believes that garbage assalone, God help you. But
Speaker 1: that's their life. But they don't realize And I genuinely
Speaker 1: think that for me to get a better man. No,
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that's not. That's my fear, that
Speaker 1: that's what that thinks, that's that's the thought of it.
Speaker 1: But I would be hard pressed to believe otherwise. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I hope that's not true because it But
Speaker 1: the point I'm saying is right is because this is
Speaker 1: the same thing, right, you want why because when that
Speaker 1: other guy pulls up in that five point oh, you
Speaker 1: feel a lot better being and that other guy's car
Speaker 1: that he bought. Yeah, because you can't the five point
Speaker 1: of references from an earlier. Um, you do feel better
Speaker 1: if you attract the man that has more money even
Speaker 1: though you don't have more money, And that's what you
Speaker 1: were saying. Or you can trap that son of a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I always say, gentlemen, spend as much money
Speaker 1: on the prenup as you do as the ring, if
Speaker 1: not more. Back to our regular schedule protract. I get it, though,
Speaker 1: I get it. Um, mind y'a, I'm not getting the
Speaker 1: pre nup. Yeah I'm not. You heard that somebody's in
Speaker 1: boxes about some problems. So but dig dig right, So
Speaker 1: I would say, Um, that's why to look better than
Speaker 1: we feel, because most most of us, even the wealthy
Speaker 1: of us, can't identify the true oppression from the oppressors.
Speaker 1: Like today, all day it was George Floyd, George Floyd's
Speaker 1: the one universe, George Floyd. You know, bro, this is
Speaker 1: not just about George. This is about but the problem is,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. If if if you can treat somebody,
Speaker 1: if you shot somebody with a gun, and you also
Speaker 1: scratched them with a key, and all you have to
Speaker 1: do is worry about the key scratch. Look I got
Speaker 1: your best interests. You see me patching up this he scratched.
Speaker 1: Feel me out did on your leg? Look I like you.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile you bleeding and everybody screaming about the key scratch,
Speaker 1: Like the bullet hole don't exist. The reality is the
Speaker 1: bullet hole is the economic oppression. That's where the oppression is.
Speaker 1: The oppression is in that lack of opportunity. It's not
Speaker 1: about police reform, it's not about none of that. It's
Speaker 1: literally about when you from Watts and Compton, it's an
Speaker 1: urban community, there are thousands of jobs on a lameter
Speaker 1: yea thousands of jobs livable wages four seven, eight nine
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month. The amount of just simply CDL
Speaker 1: jobs did exist between Slowsing and the ocean and the
Speaker 1: seventh ten and the one ten is extraordinary. And and
Speaker 1: that's the true oppression. The true oppression is the people
Speaker 1: who inhabit those communities that don't have those careers. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. The problem is in the fifties, right when
Speaker 1: they build Compton when they when they started Excuse me,
Speaker 1: they didn't build Compton in the fifties, but when Compton
Speaker 1: became what it was in the fifties, and now they
Speaker 1: had this fourth bond that this bomb mass set up
Speaker 1: where you could just walk to work, you can walk home,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was great. You could shop there,
Speaker 1: you could live there. Everything just like her she like
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier where her she built in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: You built the then you built the industry, and then
Speaker 1: you built the livabool you live. You built a community
Speaker 1: around that's there still that's in Competon and Watch right now,
Speaker 1: still there. The problem is that's said community. Compton and
Speaker 1: Watch don't have those thousands of jobs. That's why there's
Speaker 1: no gangs in Lakewood. Show me a place where's poor
Speaker 1: people that in l A where there's no gangs. City
Speaker 1: city was poor people people poor. It's like can ghetto.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a I'm gonna take a complete and
Speaker 1: utter cop out scam of an answer on this, and
Speaker 1: you know exactly what I'm gonna say. No, this is
Speaker 1: a chicken ship cop out answer. It's just trying to
Speaker 1: into interproving your point. Skitter Row and there's gangs, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a skid Row gang. Oh what are they
Speaker 1: as East Coast? First Street? First? But that's not the point.
Speaker 1: The point I'm saying is, which is that was a
Speaker 1: great cop out, and I'm glad I was able to
Speaker 1: top you because it's true. But I know a lot
Speaker 1: of them too. But they must be the most paid.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say they don't exist, but I
Speaker 1: know some dudes from there now. I talked to Coast
Speaker 1: with my boy and I was like, because I was
Speaker 1: trying to figure out he would answer me the question straight.
Speaker 1: I was like, we're I was like, we're exactly as
Speaker 1: East Coast original like geography. He's like, oh, we are
Speaker 1: first Street. We weren't here, weren't here, And I'm like
Speaker 1: from because it was built at What's funny is as
Speaker 1: gangs kind of became this thing that's so divisive. It
Speaker 1: was built to bring people together. It was a bunch
Speaker 1: of kids that created an idea to unite people. M
Speaker 1: and obviously anything you do to build unite people historically
Speaker 1: right whether so. The point I'm saying though, is um,
Speaker 1: I think that's where the oppressor is truly the hardest
Speaker 1: and that's where you become the oppressive. And could I
Speaker 1: play a white devil's advocate and this and this is
Speaker 1: gonna be gritty like because the devil a white devil's advo.
Speaker 1: You don't understand how crazy that sound. We'll go ahead.
Speaker 1: It's a great devil entang But I'm glad so you
Speaker 1: use the gunshot key scratch reference and I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: the other end of the observational spectrum gunshot reference on that.
Speaker 1: Let's say you and I have a as if track
Speaker 1: and field races were set up on the way boxing
Speaker 1: matches were. You and I are gonna raise a hundred
Speaker 1: meters on August one, and we're gonna start training tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And I got better shoes, and I got better weights,
Speaker 1: and I got a better coach and all the other ships,
Speaker 1: and thirty minutes before the race starts, you blow a
Speaker 1: hole in your kneecap and then blame the fact that
Speaker 1: you lost on my better coach and better shoes, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like what was Marino Valley in
Speaker 1: nineteen It was a horsetown. There's nobody there. By nine seven,
Speaker 1: it was would frames of a lot of houses waiting
Speaker 1: to be sold by two thousand seven. People I knew
Speaker 1: called it Murder Valley, you know, And that was the
Speaker 1: people that moved largely like out of a lot of
Speaker 1: the East Side neighborhoods to go kids over. Then they
Speaker 1: started gangs and along the same lines when you were
Speaker 1: not what's the word receptive two like, you know what
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month times ten years probably is exactly
Speaker 1: with some earnings behind it. It's probably about eighty grand
Speaker 1: if you go from twenty three to thirty three and
Speaker 1: whatever your vices are, that a month. Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: get that. Don't run that cop out, and you don't
Speaker 1: believe and you do not believe it is something you
Speaker 1: know what that is? That's the guy who stands in
Speaker 1: front of me pissing me the funk off at seven eleven,
Speaker 1: buying a lott of ticket and the blunt every day
Speaker 1: at the expense of not paying all of the bill whatever.
Speaker 1: You're still not gonna pay all the bills, right, so
Speaker 1: you still don't pay all the bills? Are you saying?
Speaker 1: You're telling somebody to choose instant comfort over ideal What
Speaker 1: is my what is my life? Theme? The universe exists
Speaker 1: on a one dimensional spectrum, discipline and consequences. But that
Speaker 1: that's not what that that the problem with that concept
Speaker 1: right now, and I I agree, g. The problem with
Speaker 1: that is right is you would have to convince people
Speaker 1: of what you're saying to even first off, that's my point.
Speaker 1: It's a crisis of information. But but it's not just
Speaker 1: information right. You have to be able to so like
Speaker 1: you just use the word receptive right to information. You
Speaker 1: have to believe these things are possible. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: they're possible. See like you said the White Devil's advocate
Speaker 1: or Satan right like like roughly, Satan doesn't believe in God,
Speaker 1: Satan knows God. Man believes in God. Satan knows God.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in either of them. You're missing the point.
Speaker 1: So you're feitl to get away. That's not the point
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what you're talking about. You know
Speaker 1: that you could turn that in the eight that's not
Speaker 1: even a matter of fact. You're not even gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Let's say this, you're not even gonna do it because
Speaker 1: that's gonna take you too fucking long. That that's but
Speaker 1: that's my point. That's a point. And let's say it's
Speaker 1: not eighty thousand. Let's say it's just sixty, so you
Speaker 1: don't want a red cent on that money the whole
Speaker 1: fucking time, which is impossible. But let's just say it's sixty.
Speaker 1: You grab a twenty two year old and tell him, hey, look,
Speaker 1: for fox sake, smoke the weed out of a pipe
Speaker 1: instead of a blunt every day. It's two dollars a day.
Speaker 1: By the time you're thirty two, you have the down
Speaker 1: payment on a house. It doesn't hurt anybody to tell
Speaker 1: them that they can do it with it what they please.
Speaker 1: I just feel like there is a significant the you know,
Speaker 1: like there's an expression if you repeat something enough, people
Speaker 1: start to believe it. I don't see the harm in
Speaker 1: repeating that concept enough until people start to believe it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not at some point if they start to believe it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might not change everybody's life, but it might change
Speaker 1: I agree, right. I think me and Sticks had this
Speaker 1: debate right about um being finance teaching financial literacy. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the vegan fucking sticks. Um. He wanted to
Speaker 1: teach financial literacy to a bunch of poor people, and
Speaker 1: I laughed him out of the room and and that's
Speaker 1: kind of what you're saying. So that's dope that two
Speaker 1: of you guys are saying that I'm gonna think about
Speaker 1: a little harder. But I'm gonna tell you again to
Speaker 1: keep dealing with a key scratch over a bullet wound. See,
Speaker 1: and keep blaming the shot in your foot on the
Speaker 1: other guy's coach. Well, it's not the shade of your foot, right,
Speaker 1: you have to admit somebody else's shooting you know, you
Speaker 1: shot your own foot. No, no, no, that's impossible. If
Speaker 1: you spend all your money everything you have any money,
Speaker 1: if you go today, before I left Vegas, it was
Speaker 1: seven twelve in the morning, I'm in line at seven eleven.
Speaker 1: You know what, the person in front of me was
Speaker 1: buying little tickets, tall cannon, same thing, lottle tickets, and
Speaker 1: exactly that's three dollars a day. That's ninety dollars a month. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's that's you know what's it's powerful. The seven twenty
Speaker 1: dollars a year, exactly dollars thousands and made dollars. So
Speaker 1: that's a thousand eighty dollars a month, thousand eighty a year,
Speaker 1: a thousand eighty dollars a year n eighty dollars a year.
Speaker 1: That's a situation where like pain is as behaviorally powerful
Speaker 1: as hope. But but it's not pain, right, that's where
Speaker 1: it becomes oppression. No, no, but the pain of oppression.
Speaker 1: So that means that means there is an aggressor. So
Speaker 1: it's not like self inflicted of course, like like if
Speaker 1: you look for a job every day, the oppression isn't
Speaker 1: self inflicted, but that but that's the But that's my point.
Speaker 1: Like pain is a symptom of oppression. So if you
Speaker 1: don't deal with the oppression, and I don't mean deal
Speaker 1: with it and that crappy way that every I don't
Speaker 1: want to reform the police. I don't go to fuck
Speaker 1: what then people do? I I'm saying, as an individual,
Speaker 1: you can empower yourself. No, you can't self up by
Speaker 1: your bootstraps. You cannot eye glasses can, Charlotte, man can,
Speaker 1: Hove can. There's a handful that can. But the man
Speaker 1: of most people. Again, this is where I told you
Speaker 1: me and your ideas head too, because head agrees with
Speaker 1: you our ideas. Everybody else is right. No, it's not
Speaker 1: y'all don't believe y'all believe everybody was gifted with the
Speaker 1: same things. That's probably the worst mistake human beings made.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that much, but I'm saying you have
Speaker 1: to believe so when so when you're saying no, not no,
Speaker 1: that's a long way from what I'm saying. Because I
Speaker 1: do agree discipline is for everybody, so you like you
Speaker 1: learned discipline. I'm not saying everybody can become a millionaire.
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating equality. I'm not advocating equality. I'll come
Speaker 1: on afocany of that. I'm advocating a mitigation of despair.
Speaker 1: I'm advocating and the eventual aggregate improvement of a community.
Speaker 1: But but but it starts right, It starts with addressing
Speaker 1: If you buy a lottery ticket every day, you're investing
Speaker 1: in hope. But when you don't have anything else, the
Speaker 1: only thing you know what you have the price of
Speaker 1: a lotto ticket. Do you do because you gave it
Speaker 1: to the cashier, you don't. So how did you get
Speaker 1: the lotto ticket? Hope? You hoped You walked up and
Speaker 1: hope that in the general director of the cashier, Andy
Speaker 1: handed you allow ticket. You're hoping that this is the time. See,
Speaker 1: you're still trying to apply intellect, and you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't understand that that's what you're doing. I understand that's
Speaker 1: what I'm doing because it's such a simple one plus
Speaker 1: one equals two things to you and to me, I
Speaker 1: think the same way. I'm like, it's one plus one
Speaker 1: equals that's not normal. You just don't and you head sadly,
Speaker 1: y'all don't believe that it is normal. It is normal.
Speaker 1: It's not normal to think this way. It's more people
Speaker 1: don't think this way. Most people do not think the
Speaker 1: way we think. Pete, you can most people don't think
Speaker 1: the way we think. But I'm not even saying think
Speaker 1: the way I think. I'm just saying, think a little
Speaker 1: bit better tomorrow than you're thinking today. It's hard. It's
Speaker 1: so hard because and what's hard about it is it's
Speaker 1: like me telling you to do something when somebody's hitting
Speaker 1: you upside the head with a hammer and he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that hammer. Make the sandwich. Now, that's
Speaker 1: too that's too extreme. You don't see. That's the issue,
Speaker 1: and that's the that's where separate, that's the severity of it.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not extreme this is the imagine, right
Speaker 1: you you and I don't. Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: black issue. I don't want to black issue. I hate
Speaker 1: like I love black So shout out to I love
Speaker 1: it show. It's a great show. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to go through the history of of what's going on
Speaker 1: because you know even further what's been happening to that
Speaker 1: specific group of people in this country. So it is
Speaker 1: that severe. It is somebody hitting you upside the head
Speaker 1: with a hammer, and then somebody else's were saying, make
Speaker 1: a sandwich. Let me ask you a question, And I
Speaker 1: have a similar I have this conversation a lot. You
Speaker 1: know who thinks like you, our good friend Malcolm. Of
Speaker 1: course he do because he from the junk, he from
Speaker 1: the ghetto, and we both not and we both have
Speaker 1: the intellect, right, we both were gifted the intellect to
Speaker 1: see pass what it was when I first met Malcolm
Speaker 1: so oh so um, Malcolm May's y'all listening to this ship.
Speaker 1: Malcolm May's dope actor. He was in a Snowfall. He
Speaker 1: was Kevin and Snowfall. He was a South Paul. I
Speaker 1: first met Malcolm. Malcolm was a fifteen year old prodigy
Speaker 1: at the sony lot for films just to scumback. So
Speaker 1: go ahead and now back to Malcolm that you're gonna
Speaker 1: tell me, because Malcolm is smart enough to understand what
Speaker 1: he's looking at. My bottom line. Okay, Like I could
Speaker 1: look at Malcolm, I can look at my friend Kai,
Speaker 1: same neighborhood, same high school. They're both doing just fine.
Speaker 1: Total different paths. Malcolm's path is so it's just an
Speaker 1: outlier that it's inapplicable to the human experience. Signed for glasses. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So the other guy I went to college, good job,
Speaker 1: doing fine, move out whatever. My question is this. And again,
Speaker 1: like when I stayed in Oakland, I stayed with a
Speaker 1: guy from East Ockland, a girl from I went to
Speaker 1: lock and another girl from Richmond that was sc grad,
Speaker 1: cal Grad, cal Grad, and they're very smart. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that to a Caligrad. It's hard to get. I
Speaker 1: couldn't get into Cow. I was a hamstring injury from
Speaker 1: getting I had to go in as a runner. That's
Speaker 1: because you're white. Yeah, you're gonna make everything time tougher
Speaker 1: for you because it's tough being white today. And I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not joking when I say it. That like
Speaker 1: literally white people position in this country is compromised based
Speaker 1: off of what happened in the past. One thing on
Speaker 1: the side, note, I want to do a whole podcast
Speaker 1: on my beef with the educational system, both high school
Speaker 1: and college. It's gonna be great. It's actually two pocket
Speaker 1: biggie yours with educational I would love to do fire.
Speaker 1: I've always wondered like the UM because I went to
Speaker 1: a lot of colleges. You know, I went to SMU
Speaker 1: and Dallas is a private schools like the USC of
Speaker 1: the South. I went to community college in Orange County.
Speaker 1: I went to every community college in the greater Oakland
Speaker 1: East Bay area because the Peralta schools apparently don't have
Speaker 1: five classes on the campus at a time, so I
Speaker 1: have four classes on four campuses. Joke. But like Merritt
Speaker 1: Laney all you know, Alameda, all those places that you
Speaker 1: know in the Arizona States, kind of probably somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: I always what I was like, Man, it was so hard.
Speaker 1: Like the two high schools I went to, we're both
Speaker 1: very high achieving high schools, but one of them was
Speaker 1: really hard. And I'm like, that was a great academic institution,
Speaker 1: but you know what, was hard to get a decent
Speaker 1: grade because the curve was competitive as a son of
Speaker 1: a bitch. So there were people who couldn't get into
Speaker 1: that half a decent college because I only got a
Speaker 1: three point five at Corontin mar High School. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you got three or five Corona More High School, you
Speaker 1: should probably back your way back the U haul truck
Speaker 1: in the m I t R fucking genius. There's also
Speaker 1: one on on the flip side, like if I went
Speaker 1: to Lock, I didn't do any fucking work in high school,
Speaker 1: I could probably show up and phone in at four
Speaker 1: a point oh and just escape. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like the opportunity. But that's a conversation from
Speaker 1: the time. But given that and and and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think maybe I've started to answer my question mare I
Speaker 1: think about but a lot of people that I know
Speaker 1: from those type of areas, Yeah, because over the years
Speaker 1: I know in a lot who just stayed there and
Speaker 1: got lost and I just fell out of touch with him.
Speaker 1: But I look at a pretty good number of guys
Speaker 1: and women that I know from down there aren't like
Speaker 1: superbly extraordinary, like, but they did their thing, and they
Speaker 1: did it. Well, they just just god the program out
Speaker 1: and it just worked out. Okay. Why is it that I,
Speaker 1: relative to you and Malcolm, have more confidence specifically like
Speaker 1: in the black individual in the inner city that you
Speaker 1: do the individual because I know them, like like how
Speaker 1: you know? Like how you know Satan? Forgive me? Don't
Speaker 1: you forget it either? Because how you know the oppressor?
Speaker 1: I know? Man, I know Man, I know my we
Speaker 1: know our homies. It's not like so even as close
Speaker 1: as because you know, most people don't notice, but you
Speaker 1: have a different your ship with black people. You like,
Speaker 1: you really kind of you know, you don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: It's like I funk with you, I don't funk with you.
Speaker 1: That's a great thing for especially in Southern California. Kid,
Speaker 1: you know that's kind of really not. You know, in
Speaker 1: northern california's normal. In Southern California, it's no. Southern California
Speaker 1: is not as it's less normal. So that's dope. But
Speaker 1: as close as you could get to them, you could
Speaker 1: never know. And I don't want to say, like I
Speaker 1: want to go shout out to uh Omar Johnson. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go Omar Johnson because that ain't what
Speaker 1: I do. Crap, that's not. But when you talk to them,
Speaker 1: like Malcolm, like I have, you start seeing things are
Speaker 1: damn and dark in people. And when I'm saying them
Speaker 1: and dark, I don't mean spiritual. I mean things are lost, pessimistic,
Speaker 1: not even not even pestive, like say spiritually pessive, like
Speaker 1: like broken well dark not like not not like evil dark. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like like like the light bulb that you see when
Speaker 1: you come up in here and we start talking into
Speaker 1: that light go up in my eyes and my eyes
Speaker 1: light up, or Malcolm eyes like because I know both,
Speaker 1: I've seen both our eyes like a Baron Davis his
Speaker 1: eyes like I know jay Z eyes, like I see
Speaker 1: the light when you don't see that light in people
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, And like Malcolm being from the
Speaker 1: Jungles somewhat grew up in the Nicholsons and Hunters and
Speaker 1: glasses confident watch you know it and it's something. It's
Speaker 1: not a light there, like the same flash light that
Speaker 1: I used to search my brain. It's not available for
Speaker 1: all my partners. And it's the fuck up thing to say,
Speaker 1: because it's a fun thing to have to admit. But
Speaker 1: I also understand my responsibility is to make sure everybody
Speaker 1: else know watch how you treat them, nigga, because if
Speaker 1: I'm not, if you're not going to shine a flash
Speaker 1: light up there, because that's really what we should be
Speaker 1: doing as human beings. God gave some of us the
Speaker 1: intellect to take the whole point of this exact episode exact.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I like, can you to distill
Speaker 1: this whole thing down at the one sentence? Can you
Speaker 1: cultivate what we're talking about through an information type of campaign,
Speaker 1: even if it takes an you can't truly make the
Speaker 1: change you need to make. Don't get me wrong. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like Kaepernick doing the rights campaign. Cask you
Speaker 1: this question, but let me let me get this. Just
Speaker 1: hold that question Kaepernick's rights campaign like he's teaching kids
Speaker 1: rights of like being a citizen. But if you believe
Speaker 1: the police, don't believe you have a right to live,
Speaker 1: what the funk are you talking about? So that lets
Speaker 1: me know maybe he is not where I'm from, because
Speaker 1: I would never be trying to tell my homeboys. Man,
Speaker 1: you know what, next time, tell that motherfucker you got
Speaker 1: the right that you can wait on the watch. I
Speaker 1: would never tell my homeboys that in life, because I
Speaker 1: understand we don't have the right to live. In some
Speaker 1: people's eyes, happen to be police. So I think being
Speaker 1: financial literate works for a few. It just don't work
Speaker 1: for the most the most need Like its industry what
Speaker 1: made America great? The greatest idea America ever came up with.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not saying they came up with it,
Speaker 1: but when they decided to industrialize the whole country, when
Speaker 1: when people started putting these factories everywhere, that was the
Speaker 1: greatest thing because so many people come into this world.
Speaker 1: Dim whoever knows why, who knows the trauma human beings
Speaker 1: is a piece of ship. I mean, so it's traumas
Speaker 1: a thousand things. And then you add oppression, you add
Speaker 1: you know, mistreatment because you poor people seeing a certain way,
Speaker 1: all these things that you don't know how people deal with.
Speaker 1: Like I've been called I've been called nigger before it
Speaker 1: right when I was younger. I never let it shake me.
Speaker 1: I've been punched in the Facebook, I've been doping and
Speaker 1: dropped to a knee. I never let it shake me.
Speaker 1: Certain things just ain't gonna shake me. But that don't mean,
Speaker 1: everybody deal with it the same way. Everybody don't deal
Speaker 1: with death the same way. I'm I'm driving on the freeway.
Speaker 1: I could see somebody then on the side, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna think about that, motherfucker, not another time. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's trauma, or maybe it's I'm just not letting it
Speaker 1: shake me. But you just don't know how things shake
Speaker 1: other people. And so what I'm saying is to get
Speaker 1: back to where we was at. People lights get dim
Speaker 1: for whatever thing. Whatever happened in this country for us
Speaker 1: is obviously tons of oppression, tons of oppression, tons of oppressing,
Speaker 1: tons of oppression, years and years of oppression, betrayal, betrayal
Speaker 1: from the first continent that we can't betrayal, oppression or
Speaker 1: trust and betrayal betrayal. So people a lot more people
Speaker 1: come with their lights them and then you got motherfucker's
Speaker 1: now who taking drugs dim in their own lights to
Speaker 1: get away from what they're trying to forget. I don't
Speaker 1: want to remember this, so I'm gonna funk with this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna dimn my light and
Speaker 1: then make decisions with that altered them light, the same
Speaker 1: decisions you would make because you know, if you thought
Speaker 1: about how they treated your people for years, maybe you
Speaker 1: would see you people differently. You're like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to remember that how they treat us, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: dimn my lights with this opiod. I'm gonna dimn my lights.
Speaker 1: And you forget exactly you didn't even forgot. Why are
Speaker 1: you trying to get away from this? And you start
Speaker 1: treating your people the same. Wait, most niggas that's banging,
Speaker 1: they're doing dirt off dope. They're not doing dirt sober.
Speaker 1: They're doing dirt off dope, whether it's alcohol, whether it's opioise,
Speaker 1: whether it's sharan. They're doing dirt off dope because they're
Speaker 1: trying to forget whatever oppression and didn't end up becoming
Speaker 1: the oppression. Yea, power is a funny thing that way.
Speaker 1: Power corrupts. If we title a podcast something different outside
Speaker 1: of what we do, this one with power corrupts. Historically,
Speaker 1: every it fucks Sugar. Everybody. My homie was like, what
Speaker 1: do you think happened to ships? I'm like, Sugar is
Speaker 1: a good dude, Like I didn't talked to like Pops
Speaker 1: cool because he's a cool nigga. Like Pops, what you
Speaker 1: think happened to in power? If you give them motherfucker,
Speaker 1: that's what happens in gangbanging, bro, you give a sucker
Speaker 1: nigga power. Like if you put a nigga on from
Speaker 1: the hood that never was nobody and now he has
Speaker 1: the force of a neighborhood behind him. Man, you don't
Speaker 1: know how that ship. Power is is the coldest drug
Speaker 1: out so especially somebody who's had power leveraged against them,
Speaker 1: you know, like that amplifies that outcome times a million
Speaker 1: if you've been I mean, the most obvious and universal
Speaker 1: example is like an abused child. You're only abused when
Speaker 1: you're small by and large. At some point you're going
Speaker 1: to grow enough to become bigger than somebody else and
Speaker 1: you're gonna beat the ship out of that person first
Speaker 1: chance you get. And that's that crosses all barriers. That's
Speaker 1: that's any kind of abuse, for the most part, any
Speaker 1: kind of abuse. I think what most pedophiles are. It
Speaker 1: was some craziness. It's in the same num, it's the
Speaker 1: same number. Um. But that's my point. So if if
Speaker 1: we focus right, if we focus on everything else right,
Speaker 1: so we can talk financial literacy. Yeah, they can stop
Speaker 1: taking that two dollars and buying that and all that.
Speaker 1: Let's deal with why he only got fucking two dollars.
Speaker 1: Let's deal with why the funk he always trying to drink?
Speaker 1: Not not saying because that's a hard and I get it,
Speaker 1: one is easier, it's effortless, it's it's a lot less effortless.
Speaker 1: But if we deal with why this motherfucker is getting
Speaker 1: drunk every day, If we deal with why this motherfucker,
Speaker 1: why his baby mama calling him a loser that got
Speaker 1: him popping opioids and his dick now even getting hard
Speaker 1: because he's so fucking i and fucked up? Why does
Speaker 1: he Why do people feel like their life have no value?
Speaker 1: That's been three pronged question. One of them all scrap.
Speaker 1: But like we we can't say. What you're saying is
Speaker 1: save the money. You're buying your medicine with you're saying,
Speaker 1: save the money you're buying your medicine, you're buying your
Speaker 1: fake medicine. It's real medicine, especially today, it's real medicine.
Speaker 1: You know that medicine, but even that's fake medicine. But
Speaker 1: that's real medicine. Because I ain't not a fake medicine,
Speaker 1: So it's real medicine, right, So you can't say, well,
Speaker 1: save the money you're buying your medicine with. That's and
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. Like it's not about money
Speaker 1: to me though, it's that's because you're white. No, because
Speaker 1: I mean you're going saying but like I'm going more
Speaker 1: into the psyche, like I don't think when I say
Speaker 1: the impact it would have on a person, because this
Speaker 1: is this is a psychological issue, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: greater than that, but like in that specific human being,
Speaker 1: at that specific moment, it's a psychological issue, not like
Speaker 1: you're psychologic you have something Obviously I'm not going I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is it. Listen, if you're buying something because you're unhappy,
Speaker 1: well you're sick. Sure, in this case you're sick. How
Speaker 1: are you sick psychologically? But but you don't have a disease.
Speaker 1: But but that's but sick is sick again. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. You feel make me say something
Speaker 1: that we're supposed to get banned. Last time, we didn't
Speaker 1: get banned. Don't make me get banned this time. Because
Speaker 1: it's a ton of people who are psychologically sick. And
Speaker 1: if you say that they're sick or something crossed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. That's I'm saying. The matter is
Speaker 1: it's an action in the response to how you feel
Speaker 1: and and and and in the microcurrency like being sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the micro cursor, sure, but like being sick, same thing. Sure. Sure.
Speaker 1: For sake of arguments, same thing. I'm saying it. When
Speaker 1: I advocate what we're talking about as a remedy, I'm
Speaker 1: not advocating the money as the remedy. I'm advocating the
Speaker 1: ownership and the control that you get from being able
Speaker 1: to say, like, all right, I'm getting bombarded by all
Speaker 1: this exterior ship that's sucking up my quality of life
Speaker 1: and I'm mad about it. The value that you can
Speaker 1: have and saying okay, well I did this little thing
Speaker 1: and now I have something. I have some element of
Speaker 1: control like people have eating disorders psychologically, it's a control mechs.
Speaker 1: I view it, you know, between the ears as at
Speaker 1: least from the reason why I'm saying is it's it's
Speaker 1: not so much that hey, it's always easier to do
Speaker 1: something yourself in the way for someone else to do it.
Speaker 1: That's a given this is a situation. It's very large
Speaker 1: and it's a very big gap. So that's a lot
Speaker 1: of work too. It's really simple work. It's simple, but
Speaker 1: it just it requires commitment. Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 1: It's not hard work, but it is a lot of it.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of simple work. Yeah, I just say, like, well,
Speaker 1: to what extent you said it's a small number of people.
Speaker 1: How vast could the impact of something like that be
Speaker 1: if it was put into practice? Uh, one in a hundred,
Speaker 1: one five, one in one, ten, one in ten thousand,
Speaker 1: one and twenty thousand. You think that if not are
Speaker 1: of not that are capable, but that not that are
Speaker 1: capable of but of their own you know, issues or whatnot,
Speaker 1: but that just literally numerically could be capable of it.
Speaker 1: You think there's nine people in the city of Compton,
Speaker 1: nine nine? You think there are nine people nine? Okay,
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying okay sarcastically. I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sound crazy, and I'm thinking, like, am I being a Bighain?
Speaker 1: I can't believe it? Maybe I think it's fifteen thousand.
Speaker 1: There's people, Well, okay, a lot of people are old
Speaker 1: and kids, So like taking age out of them. But no,
Speaker 1: if there's twenty thousand people, you're asking people to not medicate.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what what that medicine is giving you? You
Speaker 1: can get that from a different medicine. That's what I think,
Speaker 1: and that's why I do agree. It's very psychological, So
Speaker 1: we get that from a different medicine. It took me,
Speaker 1: me and Pete get that from a different medicine. I
Speaker 1: love when I'm able to refuse girls who trying to
Speaker 1: give me some pussy. That's the most powerful thing in
Speaker 1: my life. Awesome stuff like bro, like you think getting
Speaker 1: pussy make you feel special? Turning it down it's the
Speaker 1: most amazing, no question about that. Like the strip you
Speaker 1: feel is top tier because like you are, I feel
Speaker 1: like Popeye, like punk ass bitch can't control me with
Speaker 1: this pussy. You know. The greatest line was to be
Speaker 1: in hip hop history. This is really juven on childish.
Speaker 1: But sugar Free had a song, Oh man, wasn't it was?
Speaker 1: It was all one of those features ones. It's I
Speaker 1: quit suck about deck about deck Yeah, greatest because but
Speaker 1: I get why it's a power in it. But so
Speaker 1: so I know we finning up. We okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: work through this. So no, no, so no. I think
Speaker 1: the discipline is medication for when your light is on.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think when your light is dimned,
Speaker 1: that's not even a true medicine. It's like taking night
Speaker 1: wail for aids. Yeah, like but that's but that's but
Speaker 1: that's I don't think this is something else mean and
Speaker 1: dja here he thinks most people are stupid. I'm like,
Speaker 1: most people are not incapable of learning. They're literally distracted,
Speaker 1: and the brightest minds are the are the toughest to
Speaker 1: be distracted. Like intellag is not only vision around things
Speaker 1: you haven't seen, it's also h focus focus, right, so
Speaker 1: I think like you have to focus, and so it's
Speaker 1: hard to focus when things that feel so permanent, right, like, um,
Speaker 1: your mom on dope. I got one homey who took
Speaker 1: his mom being on dope and he turned around and
Speaker 1: so dope and changed his life. Like another homey who
Speaker 1: sold his mom is on dope, he end up doing dope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know the light that's going on, you just
Speaker 1: never no the lights. But the point before we get lost. Um,
Speaker 1: the medicine they take is the medicine they were taught
Speaker 1: to deal with the sickness that is oppression. Like, so
Speaker 1: you're saying, can we teach them? Can we provide and
Speaker 1: tell them this is the better medicine. The problem is
Speaker 1: it has no discipline, gives people that have intellect strength,
Speaker 1: because that's truly where you learn that, that's where you
Speaker 1: truly Floyd discipline. That's it's all about discipline, willing to
Speaker 1: go to the gym. That's why motherfuckerking with Floyd's who
Speaker 1: gotta who got a six pack for twenty years? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a different discipline that that that's again,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's novelty level stuff that's inapplicable to the
Speaker 1: greater population. So but what I'm saying is we can deal.
Speaker 1: We can we can start talking about changing the medicine.
Speaker 1: You know, because I do agree that it does make
Speaker 1: you feel powerful when you take your own ship. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm like that for real, because I know what happened
Speaker 1: in the Transatlantic slave trade. I know what happened in
Speaker 1: the South. I know I find my strength in controlling.
Speaker 1: I change everything I can change about my own life,
Speaker 1: and that's my focus. That's not normal. I find everything
Speaker 1: that's in my life, and I focus on that. I
Speaker 1: don't focus on what now one of them motherfucking people
Speaker 1: be doing. I'll see it, but I'm not focused on
Speaker 1: none of that ship And so to not be able
Speaker 1: to not be distracted by what the world thinks, that's
Speaker 1: how you have individual thought. Think about how few people
Speaker 1: have individual thought. I'm not distracted by nothing y'all saying,
Speaker 1: hold up, what's the question? That's what we're all thinking about.
Speaker 1: I don't care what none of y'all saying. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this and I'm gonna think myself. I'm gonna read.
Speaker 1: I'm allowed whatever light in me to light up that
Speaker 1: question and figure out all the paths to get to
Speaker 1: what I think. The average person don't got enough time.
Speaker 1: They are distracted, so they take other people's thoughts, not questions.
Speaker 1: What are they're distracted with? Yeah, I mean I perceived
Speaker 1: the sickness, Yeah, the oppression. Most people are genuinely so.
Speaker 1: But but they're not. But they're thinking about the distraction
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about it, you know what I mean? No, No,
Speaker 1: they are thinking about it like right there, Like you
Speaker 1: have a look on social media, bro. When um, whenever
Speaker 1: something happened like. This is one of the worst things
Speaker 1: I hate. I hate this, and I probably shouldn't be
Speaker 1: talking to a white person about this, but I hate
Speaker 1: this part. There's really nobody else left here. I know
Speaker 1: it's just us, it's just us um. But as the
Speaker 1: father of all humanity, I feel like everybody is a
Speaker 1: part of me. From the whitest white man to the darkest.
Speaker 1: They all my sons and the father humanity. It's just
Speaker 1: how I looked like when it starts right, this is
Speaker 1: how I feel. Let me fiti this, let me go
Speaker 1: in his own flesh, just unbelievable. Look so like most
Speaker 1: people when ship happened, like when whenever something happened, like
Speaker 1: let's say the police mistreat Let's say when these funked
Speaker 1: up as racist as police mistreat somebody, right, or it's
Speaker 1: a challenge of of of authority, brutal force. Somebody dies
Speaker 1: with brutal force. Right. The worst thing I hate when
Speaker 1: black people start sharing white people experience with the police.
Speaker 1: I hate when black people complain to white people about oppression.
Speaker 1: You've never heard me talk to you about man pete
Speaker 1: them police, you know. But I would never in my
Speaker 1: life complain to a white person about oppression. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna tell a white person my life matters. I'm I
Speaker 1: would never talk to you oppressor about being oppressed. He no,
Speaker 1: goddamn well he's oppressing me, So why the fuck am I?
Speaker 1: That's like talking to your rapists about, hey, you're raping me.
Speaker 1: You thought he didn't know, So just to have that
Speaker 1: will right. It's just different. Well, that's kind of relates
Speaker 1: back to our original case, Like you wouldn't advocate for
Speaker 1: the greater commercial mechanism to go out of their way
Speaker 1: to accommodate the people of Watts No, so I think
Speaker 1: that could work, but it required the wealthy of our
Speaker 1: community to do the same, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: they don't do the same. You don't ever hear rich
Speaker 1: black people talk about oppress. I mean reparations. I don't
Speaker 1: know one, well, the ones who benefit politically from it,
Speaker 1: But aside from that, which ones are wealthy that's doing it?
Speaker 1: All the ones that do it publicly? Which one is
Speaker 1: wealthy doing it? Maxine Lebron talked about that, Lebron, They
Speaker 1: never talked about reparation. No, let talk about police reform
Speaker 1: and all that bullshit Maxine has. There's that one wealthy
Speaker 1: Waters is very wealthy. Maxine got her husband's fealthy corrupt
Speaker 1: through his ship with her. But that ain't even what
Speaker 1: it is. That that ain't what it is. Trust me.
Speaker 1: You don't hear the wealthy elite of black Folds talking
Speaker 1: about reparations, and I think that's where the change needs
Speaker 1: to happen. If that was the conversation, we still should
Speaker 1: be going to hurt there exactly, got it, I'll throw
Speaker 1: under the butt. That's not the point. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, let's focus on economic oppression as the main problem.
Speaker 1: Now again, I'm not gonna go I'm saying I truly
Speaker 1: believe the solution is an industry. It's the only solution.
Speaker 1: Solution is an industry. It's an industry. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: what may America the great country economically. It was mhmm.
Speaker 1: I don't think you could ever heal I don't know
Speaker 1: if you could heal how human beings treat poor people.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could ever heal how human
Speaker 1: beings treat poor people. I don't even know if that's
Speaker 1: possible to heal that sickness. I don't know why human
Speaker 1: beings aren't being humane. I have no idea that that's something.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into that problem. That problem
Speaker 1: causes deep What I want to focus on is opportunity
Speaker 1: and economics for anybody who wants it, because that's what
Speaker 1: this country is supposed to be about. That's the idea
Speaker 1: of it. That's what capitalism that got so far out
Speaker 1: of control that they forgot it was because of here.
Speaker 1: You built the ship here. When you took it someone else,
Speaker 1: you became the same slaver you was in the fucking
Speaker 1: sixties seventeen hundreds, Like we're talking about the China were
Speaker 1: they're working for minimum change and they got cold heaters
Speaker 1: and and they have nuts. When you jump out of
Speaker 1: the window to kill yourself, you get caught and to
Speaker 1: take you back to work.