1 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: All right. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Special special edition of splash It today. This episode is 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: from London, England. We're in Camden right now at the 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: World's End pub, So traveled over the pond to see 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: my dear friend Susan Slusier. We're both at the bar 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: right now. Susan, thanks for having me. We've been having 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: fun the last couple of days together all over the place. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: You're wearing me out. Man, You're the best host ever, 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: but I can't keep up with you. 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: Thanks a pie. 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 4: I got this place kind of nailed down. You know 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 4: how much I love my London time. 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: This is fun. We've got that. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 4: We've had a lot some technical things going on trying 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 4: to broadcast from a pub, but I cannot tell you 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: how great the staff here at the World's End is 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: letting us sneak in before they open and do this. 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: So we got to go a little quickly because they 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 4: got the kind of open and sell some beer here 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: pretty soon. And you know I'm going to do the 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: claimer fpee. We're we have no beers because it's not 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: opening time yet. Drink responsibly, everybody. Pubs are more than 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 4: just places to drink, their community centers, pub quizzes. 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: There's pubs are so. 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: Near and dear to my heart. So many of my 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: friends and I just like meet at pubs, and we 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: will meet one of them later. 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: I've got a British. 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 4: San Francisco Giants fan who's gonna explain to everybody why 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: he's a Giants fan from here and also why he's 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 4: a baseball player in Hertfordshire, England. So that's going to 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: be super fun. 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little London England flare today for a Giants 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: fan in London. I couldn't disagree with you more. Susan 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: pubs are for drinking, and that's what we've done the 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: last three days. So that was a really nice disclaimer. 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: You're the responsible one in this family. I'm not, and 38 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: we have it a blast. You've taken me to Christmas fairs, 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: We've drank mold wine, I've seen all the tourist attractions. 40 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: Now we're going to Richmond today after this podcast and 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: we're going to go see Ted Lasso in the Bar 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: and Ted Lasso So that's my favorite TV show, that's 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: your favorite TV show. 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: So I'm super fired up for that. 45 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: And I don't you know what everybody listen probably doesn't 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: care about, like our first world problems. I'm in London, England, 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: but it's so nice of you to host me. It's 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: just been so much fun so far. I don't even 49 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: want to go home at this point. This place is outstanding. 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: The people, like you just said, are so nice, like 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: and people are nice in San Francisco, but this is next. 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Level nice here with This is the hospitality in. 53 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: This place and everywhere we've gone, the Christmas Fair last night, 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: and everybody telling us where to go. 55 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this place is pretty cool. 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean, obviously I am a huge, huge fan. 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 4: But the World's End it's in you know, British Parlence. 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: It's my local. It's just a sort of a block 59 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: and a half tone. I guess that's telling everybody where 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: I live. But beautiful Camdon Town, everybody, if you if 61 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: you're in London, the World's End is just opposite the 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: Camden Tube station. You cannot miss it. It's iconic. It's 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: been around since I think the sixteen hundred's Charles Dickens 64 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 4: drank here. I mean, I think most clubs in London 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: say that. But it's super cool that I was great 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 4: and it's also got I think a lot of people 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: that know that my main thing is music, live music. 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: They have a live music venue underneath Underworld that is 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: super cool. I just saw a great band from Nashville 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 4: there the other day, Parker Barrow. Check them out playing 71 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: with a Canadian band who's incredibly fun. The damn truth. 72 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: So I love the World Dead, I love Underworld, I 73 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: love Camden. But we have Giants News, and I think 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: that's probably what people are gonna tune in. It's actually news, 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: it's not news, it's non news. That's all the buzz 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: right now. 77 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: FP. 78 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: We were talking about it beforehand. What are your thoughts 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: on this Giants out on Tetsuya Emi. 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that they are out. 81 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I know there's been reports, and I know 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: you reported it that Greg Johnson wasn't gonna go big 83 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: and long deals on free agent pitchers, and then there 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: were some other reports saying that they're out on this guy. 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: And I think we're all excited as Giants fans. I 86 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: know I am, because you know you watch the video 87 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: of this guy. His split is ridiculous, his fastball is sneaky, 88 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: it's got good life in the zone. He's kind of 89 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: got of a three quarter upshoot delivery, and his stats 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: last year were just incredible ten and five with a 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: one nine to two. 92 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean so for Nippon in the Japanese Professional League. 93 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: And I think when I hear reports and being on 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: the other side of things and be on the inside 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 2: and I don't have any information obviously I'm in London 96 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: with you, I'm always skeptical about things. I know you 97 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: talked to the owner and he said that, but I 98 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: don't think they were all in on Willie Damas last 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: year and they ended up signing. Oh, I thought we 100 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: went out. We've been having technical difficulties, but I just 101 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: had PTSD right there. 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: It's been hard to get on. 103 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: Wait, we're gonna have some glitches here doing this stuff 104 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 4: in the pub, Yeah. 105 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: We are. 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: But it's still fun because we're in a pub in 107 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: London and you just can't beat that. But like what, sometimes, 108 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: and this is no offense to you guys, the media 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: and the reporters, sometimes you hear things, you run with them, 110 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: and I react when this guy signs with somebody else. 111 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: And that's just kind of the baseball way of looking 112 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: at it, because I've been on the inside for so 113 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: long with you know, in DC with Mike Rizzo and 114 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: now being friends with Zach and Buster. 115 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Like they don't come up to me with information, but 116 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: like I'm privy. 117 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: To some things that maybe you guys aren't and just 118 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: based on experience, and I know nothing about what's going 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: on right now with this guy, what's reported and what's actually. 120 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: Happening, like trade rumors of the trade deadline. 121 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: I've talked to GMS and said, we've never even talked 122 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: to that player, talked about that player, and then it 123 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: never happened. So I freak out when I find out. 124 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: I think that's a line from Ted Lasso, if I'm 125 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: not mistaken. So I know Giants fans are really upset 126 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: right now based on some reports recently. But until that 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: signs with somebody else, and until that deal is inc 128 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: with somebody else, I'm not giving up hope that he's 129 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: a Giant. 130 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 4: Well here's my tick, as you kind of mentioned, and as. 131 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: What we put up a little bit early. 132 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: I talked to Greg Johnson a month ago, almost exactly 133 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 4: a month ago, and he was pretty specific in my 134 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: Q and A in the chronicle about things with a budget. 135 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: I'm putting it up here, you know, But they are 136 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: not necessarily looking for long term deals right now. This 137 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: was in the San Francisco Chronicle online on November fourth, 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: uh and he also was very specific in that Q 139 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: and A about saying pictures in particular, they're not looking 140 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 4: for long term deals. They have five long term deals 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: right now, only one is a picture logan Web. I 142 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 4: think if they do talk about long term deal's FP, 143 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 4: it's not. 144 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: Going to be for a picture. 145 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 4: I think it would be for somebody like Kyle Tucker, 146 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: somebody who's. 147 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: An everyday player. 148 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: And we know the rates that pictures break down, so 149 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: this isn't This is not an unusual tactic. I think 150 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: if they go out and get another starting picture, like 151 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: a big name guy, I think they go trade and 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: I think that they will have a lot of options there. 153 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: The to this spring the mind we have talked about 154 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: them before. One is very obvious. Freddy Peralta, the Giants 155 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: love the way the Brewers do things. They love Brewers. 156 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: Zach Nanazian has the Brewers background. Why wouldn't you? Freddy 157 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: Peralta is also Willia Domas's best friend. He's got a 158 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: year left on his deal. At the end of that 159 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: you talk to him about Hey, did you like your 160 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: time here? Let's talk about a deal that I could see. 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 162 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: And then the one that you and I think both 163 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: really like a lot is Joe Ryan. Joe Ryan would 164 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: be you know, I think he's he's a local guy, 165 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: he's from we're in and he's been fantastic with Minnesota. 166 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: Minnesota is obviously making a lot of changes. Go out 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: and get Joe Ryant. That's what I would do instead of, 168 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: you know, somebody who's kind of an onion. Now that 169 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: Japanese pitchers have had far more success than maybe some 170 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: of the some of the position players that have come 171 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: over that's been a little bit more hit and miss. 172 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: But I think that if you're going to give nine 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: figures to somebody and you're the Giants, I think it's 174 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: unlikely based on what Craig said, period, But I think 175 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: you do it for somebody like Kyle Tucker. 176 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, when you talk about trying that kind 177 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: of money, maybe you can get multiple additions instead of 178 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: this Japanese pitcher who I still can't say his name, 179 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,359 Speaker 2: So I'm letting you say his name because. 180 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Even though I'm a broadcast name, when he's in the 181 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: orange and black. How about that, okay, so you'll never 182 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: learn it. 183 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: Okay. 184 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: I think the one thing, like I always tell Giants 185 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: fans will never tell you how to feel because you're fans. 186 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: And I love the passion the intelligence in the Giants 187 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 2: fan base, but maybe the this is just a me 188 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: thing and being in baseball my whole life, that I'll 189 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: react when it's time to react, not before it's time 190 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: to react. And the Giants fans defense is a lot 191 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: of signings that didn't happen right with Aaron. 192 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: We can go down that road if we want. So, 193 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: there's there's a little PTSD and. 194 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: SCAR tissue there based on what has happened in the past. 195 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: But I also think it's important to remember that with 196 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: Yoshinobu Yamamoto and what he did for the Dodgers, that 197 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: every single Japanese pitcher that comes over is not going 198 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: to be that guy. That guy's got stuff plus in 199 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: tangibles and what I wait, what I do like about 200 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: the guy the Giants are talking to? 201 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I got to say his name. Hold on a second, 202 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: Tashi you uh Emi? Is that good? Not even close? 203 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: All right? 204 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: Then? 205 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: The right from Japan am I am? I no? 206 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: But but what I what I what I do like 207 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: about him as he said he wants to take down 208 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, and I think that's why we all got excited. 209 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, this guy said the right thing. I 210 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: don't want to go be a part of that. I 211 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: want to be the guy that takes them down. I 212 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: want like that. That's everybody in the Giants mentality, starting 213 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: with Buster and Zach and Tony and all the players. 214 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: You got to want be the team that takes them down. 215 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: But getting back to my get some more players for 216 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: that money. If it doesn't happen. I'm not saying it's 217 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: not gonna happen. I don't have any insiety information, but 218 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: get some more players and stockpile some really good players 219 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: in your lineup, maybe because you got Logan Web, you 220 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: got Robbie Ray, you got Landing Route. They were tenth 221 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: in the league in pitching last year with a three 222 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: eight two e r A as a team, so the 223 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: pitching is there, and I understand adding to your strength 224 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: and Buster wants pitching and defense. I get that, But 225 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: I think what we all got caught up in, and 226 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: I'll conclude myself as a Giants fan, is the way 227 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: that guy talks to what he said about taking the 228 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: Dodgers down. 229 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want that guy. 230 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: He's got long hair, he's got the mull, and he's 231 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: got a little bit of swagger on the mound. He's 232 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: got confidence, he's got moxie, he's got intangibles. And I'm 233 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: saying this. See in like ten minutes of a YouTube 234 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: video that I watched a week aldgo on his stuff. 235 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: His split's filthy, it just disappears, and he was making 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: Japanese hitters look terrible, like breaking down Swing. So I 237 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: got really excited about him, excited about his quote. But 238 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm not hanging my hat on Greg Johnson told you 239 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: in general, he's not going to spend that kind of 240 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: money in a long term deal on a picture. To 241 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: think about it came out, I'm sorry the article that 242 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: came out recently said it just kind of went in 243 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: that direction. So until I see that, I'm good. I'm 244 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: not freaking out yet. 245 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: And I'm going to give Andy Baggerley and Buster Only 246 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: from ESPN both credit for what for their work yesterday 247 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: and kind of breaking down these things further specifically with 248 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 4: in my because obviously I didn't ask Greg Johnson specifically 249 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 4: about am I that's Buster Posey and zach Manasian's job. 250 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,359 Speaker 3: I just asked about budget. 251 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: But he to me, he was pretty clear and to me, 252 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: and we're going to have to go to an ad 253 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: in a second here, so FP. But to me, they 254 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: need offense. If you're going to spend, you spend on offense. 255 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: And the position players are a better bet on long 256 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: term deal. But I don't even think to you know 257 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: a guy who I think is not altogether happy with 258 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: the Dodgers and would be maybe not a bad addition 259 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: on a shorter term deal, Cody Bellinger. And with that, 260 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: let's I know this is kind of your job, but 261 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: I'm just going to do it. We probably need an 262 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: ad here. 263 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 264 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: We're in London. 265 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 6: A unique holiday gift idea. 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The Korean 301 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 4: m VP was Cody Ponce, who George Kittle's brother in 302 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: law among other things, and had a fantastic season played 303 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: with the Pirates, so he has big league experience, went 304 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: to Korea and really honed his game. I absolutely think 305 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: they have to be talking to him. 306 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 307 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: And I certainly know uh. And I know this beyond 308 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: a reasonable doubt. They have talked to Zach Allan. He's 309 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: been a thorn thorn in the Giants side. 310 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 311 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,479 Speaker 3: He is a guy that they could add. 312 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: On, not a long term deal, very good, you know, 313 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: middle of the order type guy, but knows z NL West. 314 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: Meryl Kelly has destroyed the Giants in previous years, knows 315 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: the n L West. You know, maybe these aren't necessarily 316 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: the sexiest names. Uh, but when you've got Logan Webb, 317 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: you've got Robbie Ray, and you got some kids coming, 318 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: I don't know that you need another frontline starter. Look, 319 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: I would Freddy Baralta or Joe Ryan. Absolutely, I don't 320 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: think you have to go out and get in mine. 321 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: I really don't. Uh, And I still am saying the 322 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: need is for off eds everybody. It's not for pitching. 323 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: The pitching was good last year. I think it will 324 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: be good again. I think, you know, a certainly land 325 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: and Roup it's going to take another step forward. He's 326 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: going to be totally healthy, and they've got a lot 327 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: of other good options. So I don't I understand why 328 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: people are upset. I understand why Giants fans look at 329 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: this and go they're not spending money. They have spent money. Look, 330 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: they've got five long term deals. They went ownership approved 331 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: the Rafael Devers deal last year. I mean, this isn't 332 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: a team that is like, you know, sitting on their 333 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: wallet and not bringing it out for you know, to 334 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: pay for a round. This is this is a team 335 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: that has has spent pretty strongly. They're in a division 336 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: with the Dodgers. You are not going to outspend the dog. 337 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: Should they have offered show Hey a billion, Yes, they 338 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: should have. They would have wound up ahead of the 339 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: curve if they'd done that, And he said, yes, that's 340 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: the only but you know, nobody at the time would 341 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: have gone like, offer them a million. They offered what 342 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: the Dodgers offered. Maybe they should have gone up from that. 343 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: I think he would have gone to the Dodgers no 344 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: matter what. And you cannot outspend them, so they got 345 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: to be smart. I'm not making look with like the 346 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: Greg Johnson Q and A stuff. I'm just recording what 347 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: he said straight up. I don't really want to weigh 348 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: in one way or another whether I think it's smart 349 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: or not. I love it when owners spend. You know. 350 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: You know how long I covered the A's, I hate 351 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: to bring it up every time the A's didn't spend enough, 352 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: and they should have. They had the means. So this 353 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: is a team that could spend what they want. They 354 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: have the resources. I know the Chronicle and other outlets, 355 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: including The Athletic and the SS Standard have talked about 356 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: the fact that they now are partners with Sixth Street, 357 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: who have a you know, some investment. I don't get 358 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: the impression that that is holding them back from spending, 359 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: and certainly they've they've got they've got the whole bearer 360 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 4: to themselves everybody. You know, their ticket sales were up 361 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 4: all of that kind of good stuff. They're healthy, They're 362 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: healthy enough to spend if they want to, they could 363 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: spend more. So it is a choice ultimately, But if 364 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 4: it were me, I would spend on offense. 365 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: Do you remember the Dodgers signing photo. 366 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: Everybody was all up in arms saying he was unproven 367 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: and that man, that's a big contract. That's a big, 368 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: big check to write for a guy that's never played 369 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: in the major leagues in the States before, and there 370 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: was a lot of question around it. 371 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so in that. 372 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: Regard, I feel like that might be tough check to 373 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: write for the Giants and the guy that's not proven, 374 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: And getting back to Cody Ponds that that's a really 375 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: good option for those who don't know. Twenty nine games, 376 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty and two thirds innings. He was 377 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: seventeen and one in the Korean Baseball League with a 378 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: one eight nine y AR at two hundred and fifty 379 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: two strikeouts and one hundred and eighty and two thirds. 380 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: So I don't know how that equates or translates into 381 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: the big leagues, but the big leagues moves a lot 382 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: faster than the Korean League. 383 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: The big leagues a lot faster than the Japanese league 384 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: starting to catch up. The players are getting stronger, the 385 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: players are throwing harder. There's not the big gap between 386 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Asia and America as far as baseball players go that 387 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: there used to be. And I've talked to people with 388 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: the Giants about this, so they've done a lot of 389 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: scouting overseas. I think Buster and Zach went overseas to 390 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: check out some players together this year. So, you know, 391 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you lift up that rug and see what's 392 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: underneath the carpet and see, you know, if there's some 393 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: players that could help you win over there. So I 394 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: don't know, I haven't seen Cody Ponds pitch. I have 395 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 2: no idea, but those numbers that they stand out. 396 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's time for you to talk to 397 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: people about, you know, subscriptions and when we come. While 398 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: you're doing that, I am going to get my friend 399 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: Rob Jones scooted in here next to me in a 400 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 4: very pretty technically advanced two shots. So tell the people 401 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: people what they should do. 402 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: Well, I can't really see it right now because I 403 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: got my phone in front of my screen, but subscribe 404 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 2: it's really easy. Go to this, go to YouTube right now. 405 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Splash hit territory. Next goal is three thousand subscribers. Really easy, 406 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: you guys, We're at splash hit territory. On x We're 407 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: at splash hit Territory. We got a site on Instagram, 408 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: but go on YouTube and click because we want a 409 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: lot of followers. 410 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: We got to follow it right here. Kind of a stalker. 411 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: He's from London, England, and he's a Giants fan and 412 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: he actually plays baseball and he's friends with Susan. 413 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: So Susan, take it away with your buddy. 414 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my buddy, Rob Jones. He works at 415 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: the BBC. I don't want to brag too much about Rob, but. 416 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: He works at the BBC. 417 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: He plays baseball in Hertfordshire and he's a Giants fan. 418 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 4: So Rob, how the heck are you a Giants fan? 419 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: Tell the good people. 420 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 5: It was a happy accident. I've always loved on sports. 421 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 7: I never really saw baseball in this country because we don't, 422 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: but I played football. 423 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: I think cricket, I think broke me did a little 424 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: bit of everything. The first time my wife. 425 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 7: And I went on holiday to the States, the first 426 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 7: time I ever read the stage, I thought I want 427 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 7: to go and see American sports. This was two thousand 428 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 7: and one. We were going to September. I looked around 429 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 7: early in the year and baseball there's a lot of games, 430 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 7: so there's a lot of tickets available. I thought, let's 431 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 7: try this, and that was two thousand and one. This 432 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 7: was Bonds hitting seventy three home runs, so it was 433 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 7: easy to follow them that year. It was easy to 434 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 7: get engaged with the whole thing, and it was a 435 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 7: lucky accident of the year. I chose to look at 436 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 7: San Francisco. We had tickets for a game against the Dodgers, 437 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 7: so we knew there was a big rivalry to get 438 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 7: into and it just watching the games on bits of 439 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 7: highlights at the BBC were able to see the little 440 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 7: kind of highlight of packages that ESPN, for example, been around, 441 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 7: and looking at those it just tickled me, got me started. 442 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 5: I stayed with it. 443 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 7: We didn't actually go that year, and I did have 444 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 7: some years desperately trying to make the trip over to 445 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 7: Oracle Park. But in those years they reeled me in. 446 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 7: We had the two thousand and two World Series. Timing 447 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 7: was perfect and it's still with me. 448 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 5: As you can see, I thought I had to come 449 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 5: kit it out properly. Today. 450 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 7: I do have San Francisco Giant socks on, but I 451 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 7: will not show them to you. 452 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 4: That's okay, would that would take some contortion. Contortion by 453 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: the way they gave it. I'm going to do a 454 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 4: little more typical stuff. I have no idea what I'm doing. 455 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: They put a nice little fire behind us. If you 456 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: can see, this is such a nice pub. You've been 457 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: to this pub before. I'm guessing the world's end. 458 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 5: But of course everyone in London comes through the world's end. 459 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: About baseball here. It's so humbly when you come over here. 460 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: Susan took me to my first Premier League game the 461 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: other day between West Ham and Liverpool. I know nothing 462 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: about English football, but like you walk around, you tell 463 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: people like we're doing a podcast for the Giants and 464 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: nobody goes anything about baseball. Did it take you a 465 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: long time to learn the eight million rules and the 466 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: intricacies of the game And how hard did it to 467 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: learn for somebody that doesn't know anything about it? 468 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: Oh? 469 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely, and I still am. I've been playing for 470 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 7: more than twenty years and I'm a catcher now, so 471 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 7: I've been through outfield, shortstop and was sort of onto 472 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 7: catching generally I'm looking for something that requires less and 473 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 7: less running every time I do it. But yes, completely, 474 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 7: and we still have I mean our club in Hertfordshire, 475 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 7: you know, the Hearts baseball we are. It goes through cycles, 476 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 7: but we're growing. We have a great spurt at the moment. 477 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 7: MLB coming over to London has obviously done a lot 478 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 7: to help that. So the stadium you went to to 479 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 7: see west Ham, of course British baseball fans will have 480 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 7: attended real MLB games there twenty nineteen and then again 481 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 7: in twenty three and twenty four, so you know, we've 482 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 7: had a lot of teams come over now and that 483 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 7: really gets people to notice something that they didn't even 484 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 7: know existed. 485 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, mastering the rules is hard. 486 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 7: But when we have people come along, they may have 487 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 7: played cricket, they may have played another sort of ball sport, 488 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 7: so if they've got a little innate talent in them, 489 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 7: they're absolutely fine. And then the first time that you 490 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 7: get you know, you're out on a fly ball because 491 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 7: you ran and you're not supposed to the only way 492 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 7: you learn that is by doing it and getting it wrong. 493 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 7: My son plays, he did a lot of that this 494 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 7: last year. But that's how you learn. And you also 495 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 7: the fundamentals of it are quite straightforward, same as any sport. 496 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 5: You know, there's a long standing ta about that soccer and. 497 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 7: Football and find that it'slained the off side rule and 498 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 7: they also changed the off side rule every year, so 499 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 7: there's very few rules, but they still find a way 500 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 7: to mess with it. The fundamentals of the game. Simple 501 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 7: in football, simple in baseball. 502 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm under the impression Rob and you know, I wrote 503 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 4: a big story about the sort of the state of 504 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 4: British baseball as being as it's being played here. 505 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: A few years ago. 506 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 4: Juce Spent who's now working in the Yankees organization, was 507 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 4: the team of the British national the coach of the 508 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: British national team, and they went from ranks somewhere in 509 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: the fifties sixties in the world to making the WBC 510 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: beating Germany, and now they're ranks of seventeenth or eighteenth 511 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: and the world Jazz Chisholms played for them. I mean, 512 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 4: our friend Antoine Richardson's the coach with the team. Still 513 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: it's really I wouldn't say it's taken off, but there 514 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 4: are some British players playing in the big leagues and 515 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: not just guys from the Bahamas like Jazz. I'm a 516 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: big fan of the British baseball team, of course i am. 517 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: But it is your impression that people maybe know a 518 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: little bit more about it or are people still sort 519 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: of perplexed when you say you're a baseball fan and 520 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: you play baseball. 521 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 7: Oh both are true, but it is something every little 522 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 7: step that makes it. It gives people a chance to 523 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 7: discover it. That's what we're always trying to do is 524 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 7: get people to know that THESS know that they can 525 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 7: try it. And with anything, a successful British team, you know, 526 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 7: gb national team is always going to help that. And 527 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 7: when they won they played at the World Baseball Classic 528 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 7: in twenty three and that was a big moment when 529 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 7: they you know, won real games against real international serious 530 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 7: players GV one. Two European tournaments this year the women 531 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 7: won the European Tournament. 532 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 5: In I think July. 533 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 7: You know, all of that is a sort of great 534 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 7: boost for the game and that's the stuff that gets 535 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 7: you know, the BBC and other websites and newspapers they 536 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 7: see it. People see so much online now which also 537 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 7: cuts out that middle man. So it's not about media 538 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 7: coverage anymore. You can discover things that you never knew existed, 539 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 7: and that's what we do. 540 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: And you know, GB absolutely is a huge help in 541 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: doing that. 542 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: I've always thought that, like, really good cricket players would 543 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: make good baseball players and make ahead of a lot 544 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: more money. 545 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: Also, they hit a lot of file ball for that. 546 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: A couple of things. 547 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: I really like relegation in the Premier League, like the 548 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: Rockies right now should be relegated. 549 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't. 550 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: Play well, you go down a step and you're not 551 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: in the Premier League anymore. And the one thing I 552 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: don't like is that when a player gets tripped, they 553 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: look like they got shot by an elephant gun and 554 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: they're dead for about five minutes on the field. Rob 555 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: We don't do that in the States in baseball. We like, 556 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: we tape an asper into it, We run down the 557 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: first base. We don't sit there and lay on the 558 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: ground in the starfish for five minutes like the goalie 559 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: the other day. So those are just my instant takes 560 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: from watching my first Premier League game. 561 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm no expert. 562 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 7: I think that that's part of the great appeal of 563 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 7: baseball because I watched the NFL as well, which I 564 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 7: watched long before baseball, and they strangely seem to be 565 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 7: adopting now quite late on those English Premier League tactics 566 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 7: of falling in an impressive way, kind of being thrown 567 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 7: five meters when they've barely been touched. 568 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: Not mentioning Patrick Mahomes, it's yeah. These they sort of 569 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 5: spread across spools. 570 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 7: Baseball stays pretty pure and you don't have all that, 571 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 7: and that's a wonderful thing to watch a game where 572 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 7: you don't have all the nonsense. 573 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: Well, I hate to bring this to a clothes but 574 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 4: they are trying to get this pub open. I mean, 575 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: they've been wonderful to us, but they do need to 576 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: do their business here. Any final thoughts at. 577 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: All, No, I just want to that Rob, we're coming in. 578 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: It's cool. I love the accent, man. I could listen 579 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: to somebody with this accent talk all day long. You 580 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: could have, I don't know, read the menu here at 581 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: the World's end and I would have listened to you talk. 582 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: But that's good stuff. It's good to know that there's 583 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: Giants fans everywhere. And the one thing that I've really 584 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: realized since I've come back to San Francisco from the 585 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: East Coast. Is Giants fans travel man. 586 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: When we're on the road. 587 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter where the Giants are playing, They're always there, 588 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: and it's nice to know that there's some Giants fans 589 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: in London, England. 590 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: That's really really cool. Rob, Thanks for coming on today. 591 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, lovely to talk to you. 592 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: And Rob's family has come over to San Francisco numerous times, 593 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: so maybe the next time they come over, I'll let 594 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: people know and they can go say hi to them. 595 00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: At Oracle Park. 596 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: Family is a gorgeous and also has beautiful accents, So 597 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: it's a You guys are all Giants fans. 598 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 5: Right, Uh, we're working on some of them. 599 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, if there's a doctor, you need to just own 600 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: that kid. 601 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just saying right now, not telling you how 602 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: my parents, but that would be good parenting. 603 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: FB and I don't always agree, but I agree on 604 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: that well. 605 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: Advice is welcome. 606 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: All right, guys, thanks so much another episode of the books. 607 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: We'll see you guys later this week. Thanks for listening. 608 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Like I say on the way out, every single time, 609 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: swing heart in case you hit it.