WEBVTT - How the Wow! Signal Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry So it's

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you Should Know. Wow. Uh, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people come up and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you guys do? This is neat and said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you just saw a short version of it. My friend,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want a lot more side stories and anecdotes,

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<v Speaker 1>then tune into the long version. Yeah, we had twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>We had twenty minutes that boy, we had to get

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<v Speaker 1>down to business. Didn't and we did too. It's not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't talk about tire stores or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talked about the Wow signal. Yeah, this is um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is fascinating stuff because this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that even the most hardened skeptic hasn't been able to

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<v Speaker 1>fully debunk. Yeah, that's that's a good point. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>neat that you know they're they're upset, probably, so we

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<v Speaker 1>should say that. We keep saying the wild signal, and

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck's talking about skeptics and everything. There is evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>a potential transmission from an alien civilization here on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been here on Earth, printed out sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ohio State University Archives since the nineteen seventies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and potential is the key word there. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>where most skeptics head will pop off. But you got

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta say potential you and I did. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anybody's head to pop off, you know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, like you said, Chuck, no skeptic has

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<v Speaker 1>been able to say, here's your explanation, dumb, dumb, And

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<v Speaker 1>they've tried. There have been plenty of explanations, but every

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<v Speaker 1>single one has been systematically addressed and reduced the rubble basically. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so the whole thing finds its roots. Um, like I

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<v Speaker 1>said back in the seventies, but actually goes further back

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<v Speaker 1>than that. There's a lot of Um. There's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talk starting in the twentieth century over aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we the other other people? Are we the only

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<v Speaker 1>life out there? Um? Are there other people on other planets?

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, can we communicate with them? And astronomers

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<v Speaker 1>started crunching the numbers and doing the math and said,

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<v Speaker 1>we basically have two things we can do here. We

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<v Speaker 1>can try to go visit aliens and look for them

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<v Speaker 1>in the flesh, expensive, expensive, and potentially impossible. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a needle in a haystack. Yeah, but also

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<v Speaker 1>it's the closest, um, the closest planet to us is

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<v Speaker 1>like a few hundred light years away. I believe four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred plus, right, which means that, um, we take four

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds something years traveling at the speed of light to

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<v Speaker 1>reach that planet. So we couldn't go find them. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>we decided that we would try to listen out to

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<v Speaker 1>see if anybody was really leasing any transmissions out there

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<v Speaker 1>and find traces of alien civilizations that way. Yeah, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>did we do a show on set. No, we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it before, all right, the Search for Extra Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>did we? We did. I don't remember when it came in.

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<v Speaker 1>We definitely have talked about it before. Now that you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, I think with one of our south By

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<v Speaker 1>Southwest or comic cons might have had something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with Oh yeah, the UFOs SSETTI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a single organization, although there is the SETI

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<v Speaker 1>Institute now since the early nineteen eighties. But SET is

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different groups that um are. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>tinfoil hat wearing crack pots who are bounded determined to

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<v Speaker 1>find if there's life out there, but they're open minded

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<v Speaker 1>folks that say, if there isn't life out there, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get ahead of the game here and listen out for

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<v Speaker 1>him and see if they're trying to say something to

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<v Speaker 1>us right there. They're basically people who say the there's

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<v Speaker 1>just too many stars out there that have planets and

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<v Speaker 1>that have are potentially habitable to life for us. It

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<v Speaker 1>just it just it boggles their mind to think that

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<v Speaker 1>we are the only living beings. And they're scientists, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And to these scientists the much more logical conclusions that

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<v Speaker 1>were one of many um civilizations out there, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they have dedicated their their astronomical talents to searching for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this all started happening in the early nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and Earnest and uh, I think it actually started in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties and Earnest. But with the Big Ear it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the seventies, their steady program, that's right, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three, the Ohio State University Radio Observatory. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that laugh every time. Um, they have something called the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ear, or had something called the Big Ear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they needed a golf course, though, yes they did, so

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<v Speaker 1>they got rid of the Big Year. Even worse than that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Ear Radio Telescope Ohio State was demolished, not

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<v Speaker 1>to build the golf course. But to expand an existing

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<v Speaker 1>golf course, we need another nine holes, right, we need

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<v Speaker 1>another clubhouse. Well, I think the Big Year had seen

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<v Speaker 1>its best days by that point, So don't feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for the Big Year. I still feel bad for the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Year. So nineteen seventy three, the Big Ears starts

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<v Speaker 1>scanning listening for stuff out in outer space, hence the name,

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<v Speaker 1>and UM what would happen is because it was seventy three, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it would print stuff out on a dot matrix printer

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<v Speaker 1>and UH student would uh student assistant would take that

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<v Speaker 1>print out of of what it was listening to and

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<v Speaker 1>take it to another volunteer, UM teachers, professors, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would just basically look at all these numbers. Yeah, page

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<v Speaker 1>by page by page. If you've ever seen the wild signal,

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<v Speaker 1>you it's just numbers ones, twos, maybe a three here there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the level of background noise in space exactly. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>A one is blip a radio transmission that was one

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<v Speaker 1>time the intensity of the normal background noise in space

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<v Speaker 1>on a particular frequency. Right, A one is nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>there's ones all over the place all the time. There's ones,

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<v Speaker 1>twos and threes. Yeah, very common stuff. Um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>this these these poor astronomers who were donating their time

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<v Speaker 1>to the bigger telescope. We're basically they were the the

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<v Speaker 1>They were analyzing the stuff with their eyes. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like a computer program they spit it into. They

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<v Speaker 1>looked at this computer print out sheet after sheet after sheet, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So for they would look at a whole night's scan

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<v Speaker 1>of deep space from a radio telescope, again with their

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<v Speaker 1>eyes going over sheets and heets of computer paper, dot matrix,

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<v Speaker 1>printer paper, and UM, that's what this guy named Jerry Aman,

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<v Speaker 1>who was an astronomer at Ohio State, was doing UM

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<v Speaker 1>on August eighteen, nineteen seventy seven. He was looking over

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff from three days before. Yeah, and so he's

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<v Speaker 1>scanning all the stuff and there's ones, twos, and threes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, he's watching uh, Love American Style

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<v Speaker 1>on TV and eating his TV dinner and he's bored

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mind love American stuff and he's bored

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<v Speaker 1>out of his skull. And then UM, well here's another

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<v Speaker 1>important thing to point out, because it was also nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three, that was the seventy seven. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have UM double digit print outs. It just

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<v Speaker 1>went one through nine and then started with the letter A, B, C,

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<v Speaker 1>D AS ten, eleven, twelve and so on, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's reading this stuff and he sees six e

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<v Speaker 1>q U J five, which means the transmission at its

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<v Speaker 1>peak of you peaked at thirty times louder than anything

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<v Speaker 1>they had ever seen before. Then the normal background noise,

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<v Speaker 1>and he circled it and put wow exclamation point on

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<v Speaker 1>the paper. And that's why it's the Wow signal, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a big deal. I mean, like, in

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<v Speaker 1>this whole huge ream of dot matrix paper filled with

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<v Speaker 1>ones and twos and maybe a three here there, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a you standing in the middle of this string which

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<v Speaker 1>was high. Yeah. I mean six alone would be like whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of significant. This thing went up to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you said, he circled it and wrote wow

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<v Speaker 1>next to him. It became the Wow signal, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>almost immediately they started investigating this thing. Sure, And there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of details to the Wow signal that

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<v Speaker 1>are make it even more impressive than just the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it peaked at you, started at six and ended

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<v Speaker 1>at five and peaked at you. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different aspects of the Wow signal that make people say,

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<v Speaker 1>what in the name of God is this? And we

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<v Speaker 1>will start getting those details right after this break. So, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about how the wild signal looks on

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<v Speaker 1>dot matrix papers six e q u J five, and

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<v Speaker 1>that means that at its peak it goes from six

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<v Speaker 1>times the normal background noise all the way up to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty times and then back down to five times the

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<v Speaker 1>normal background noise over what we know over seventy two seconds, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very significant. It turns out so um. The

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ear telescope, we should say a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about it was a crowds telescope. It was built in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties and it didn't move it um eavesdropped on

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<v Speaker 1>the electromagnetic radio spectrum UM coming from outer space. Eaves

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<v Speaker 1>dropped on it. But it used the rotation of the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth to move it. Yeah, it didn't pan its little

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<v Speaker 1>big ear back and forth. It wasn't a show off, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it just stayed fixed. The rotation the Earth very slowly

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<v Speaker 1>would pick up a new patch of Earth at the

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<v Speaker 1>rate of the Earth spin right. So um, the big

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<v Speaker 1>ears the sky at the rate of the Earth spin right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's just pointing out there in deep space,

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<v Speaker 1>and as the Earth rotates, it would move the big

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<v Speaker 1>ears field of reception I guess across any given point

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky over a seventy two second period. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just so happens that the six e q u

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<v Speaker 1>J five wild signal transmission was seventy two seconds, which

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<v Speaker 1>suggests something very important here, Chuck. It suggests that the

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<v Speaker 1>wild signal came from a fixed point in the sky

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<v Speaker 1>that was staying in one place, and the Big Year

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<v Speaker 1>just swept past it over the course of its normal

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two seconds. Yeah, And uh, I liken it to

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're driving through the desert listening to your radio. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>your signal, the further you are from that radio transmitter

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<v Speaker 1>or that radio station is going to be pretty faint.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as you get closer and have that direct signal,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna peak. And then as you drive further past it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get more faint again. And that's what shape

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<v Speaker 1>that this wild signal took. It took the shape of

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<v Speaker 1>a pyramid if you graph it out. And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Doppler effect because I always hear the Doppler

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<v Speaker 1>effect being explained by how an ambulance siren sounds far

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<v Speaker 1>away and then gets louder as it gets closer, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it gets, you know, weaker, the further way you get. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it also changed his pitch though, isn't that the Doppler effect?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. It's not just loudness. It's like er

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<v Speaker 1>er er. If you're in England, did you change pitch

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<v Speaker 1>just then? Yeah, you didn't hear any difference. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hear it go down in volume. You didn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>it go down in in tone? No? Wow? Did you really?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you tone deaf? I don't think so. It would

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<v Speaker 1>explain a lot as far as karaoke goes. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>sind karaoke? Did you recently? What do you say? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I got some songs here there? You can't You can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell us one of them? Is that too revealing? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me think of one of my karaoke songs. My

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<v Speaker 1>big move is always under pressure and someone's always like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll do it with you'll do the bowie part. I

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<v Speaker 1>might not do both parts. I recently sang um I

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<v Speaker 1>have a tiger. Oh, yeah, there you go. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a big problem though, with my karaoke stuff. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the songs that I pick are just slightly out

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<v Speaker 1>of the key that I can comfortably achieve. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're picking eighties rock, then yeah, but you would think

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<v Speaker 1>the Tiger that the the guy's not singing that high picture,

0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.520
<v Speaker 1>although I know he hits that high note and I

0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.440
<v Speaker 1>knew that, But from the start that guy starts out

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<v Speaker 1>like a little higher than I can go. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's not necessarily a treat for everyone around me

0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.040
<v Speaker 1>when I'm singing karaoke, because I accidentally every once in

0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a while I have a night where like every song

0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I pick is right in my wheelhouse and I'm nailing him.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, it's uh yeah, I woarrible

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I guess I think the key to

0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.160
<v Speaker 1>karaoke is to get your songs that you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can do and kind of stick to those. Well, I'm

0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a pro. Well you know, uh like

0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I did Foreigners Cold as Ice one time by accident

0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>because the song I wanted to do, I think, under pressure,

0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.200
<v Speaker 1>someone had done and I was they were calling me.

0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, well, I guess I'll just do this,

0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and the karaoke guy hit in Philadelphia said, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you're hope you can have a vice for your testicles,

0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.440
<v Speaker 1>but you didn't say testicles why? And then I remembered

0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:00.480
<v Speaker 1>how high that song was. It is. It's a disaster

0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that I have the Tigers not that far off. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and I should give a plug here to um. Sig

0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Gold's Request Room. If you're in New York City, you

0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.520
<v Speaker 1>should go to sig Gold's Request Room. It's on one

0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.200
<v Speaker 1>of those private karaoke twenty six. It's not private. It's

0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:24.040
<v Speaker 1>just a piano karaoke bar, not private room. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a back room with like a heavy curtain, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a sense that it's private, but it's not private. It's

0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.720
<v Speaker 1>just you just show up and but it's live. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy playing piano instead of a backing track. Yeah,

0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a guy named Joe McGuinty. He's a very good

0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:41.080
<v Speaker 1>talented musician. He's actually a friend of you, Mace, and

0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.640
<v Speaker 1>he used to play for the Psychedelic First and he

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<v Speaker 1>now he's one of the owners of Sig Gold's Request Room. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that place is gonna blow up now, I hope so

0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.880
<v Speaker 1>it should. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, Alright, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good segue or not segue, because that

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<v Speaker 1>leads to nothing. No, it leads to how do we

0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:05.240
<v Speaker 1>get on that Doppler effect? Yeah? Exactly, So, uh, let's

0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about set again. Let's bring this all back home

0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.840
<v Speaker 1>set or the different STIs around the world. Decided at

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<v Speaker 1>one point that UM, like you said, a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to find transmission might be to listen out for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we're gonna listen, UM, what would be the

0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:28.520
<v Speaker 1>most likely UM radio station that they would transmit? Well, yeah,

0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean like and of course it's not a radio station.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say that as a joke, but but that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first That was the first. Um. That wasn't the

0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:41.400
<v Speaker 1>first thing they thought of. Like if if you say, okay,

0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.040
<v Speaker 1>we can't go to distant planets to start searching for aliens,

0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.720
<v Speaker 1>there's just it's just too far away. We would all

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<v Speaker 1>die on the way there. Right, we're gonna wait for

0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:57.080
<v Speaker 1>them to come down and play a mood at Devil's Tower. Instead,

0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.920
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna look for traces of them. Yeah, how can

0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.360
<v Speaker 1>we find But that were listening wasn't immediately the thing.

0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.280
<v Speaker 1>They started thinking like in different ways that you could

0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:12.080
<v Speaker 1>find evidence of alien civilizations. And finally what they settled

0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 1>on was there, if you're an alien civilization, you are

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<v Speaker 1>probably familiar with the electromagnetic spectrum, So let's start looking there.

0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And they started looking at the electromagnetic spectrum to see

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<v Speaker 1>maybe where you would find some sort of evidence of

0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.720
<v Speaker 1>alien civilization. And they thought, how about the radio band. Yeah,

0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.080
<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of physicists from Cornell in the sixties,

0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Philip Morrison and Giesipicconi, who reckoned that, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find a common language. They're going to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>on what's like the most common language of the universe,

0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:58.360
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen Espanola, espaniola. Not quite uh. I'm sort of being

0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.359
<v Speaker 1>fun here with like saying, it's a radio stay and

0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a line. But hydrogen is the most abundant common

0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.720
<v Speaker 1>element in the universe, and there is a hydrogen line

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.360
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen frequency, so they figured this may be a good

0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.639
<v Speaker 1>place to start listening. Yeah, and and um, Hydrogen's protons flip.

0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:19.640
<v Speaker 1>They change spin pretty pretty much all the time, right,

0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And as they flip and change their spin, they admit

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, just a tiny teensy bit of electromagnetic radiation,

0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.359
<v Speaker 1>like a little glow right, and that the frequency of

0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that emission is at four hundred and twenty mega hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>Since hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe

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<v Speaker 1>and hydrogen is flipping all of the time, it's also

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<v Speaker 1>emitting this radiation all the time, which makes twenty mega

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<v Speaker 1>hurts the most common frequency on the entire electro magnetic spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hydrogen all the time. And again the city researchers

0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Philip Morris and just set be um and I know

0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it's Philip Morrison. I was just making a show, a

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.879
<v Speaker 1>tobacco joke. They have their hands and everything. Um. Since

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<v Speaker 1>these guys said they would probably transmit somewhere on the

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>radio spectrum, um, and they would probably be familiar with

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.880
<v Speaker 1>radio spectrums and electromagnetism, they would also probably know, just

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<v Speaker 1>like we just figured out, that the most common frequency

0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:33.280
<v Speaker 1>in the entire universe, no matter where you are, mega hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe this would be a really good place to

0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 1>listen out for alien radio transmissions. That's right, and the

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:45.240
<v Speaker 1>wild signal was broadcast at four point four or five

0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.280
<v Speaker 1>five six mega hurts right in the middle of the

0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.199
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen line, right on the most common frequency in the

0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.399
<v Speaker 1>entire universe. We found in nineteen seven radio transmission that

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:02.360
<v Speaker 1>was thirty times strong or than the normal background noise

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.640
<v Speaker 1>on that frequency. That's right, and that makes uh made

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 1>scientists go holy cow or wow. That even made skeptics go, oh,

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 1>but what's this all about? Exactly the shape of it,

0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about the pyramid shape, um, is exactly

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.399
<v Speaker 1>what you would expect. So that made everyone sit up

0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and go all right, well there's also that. And then

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.159
<v Speaker 1>the sharpness, I know is the third big reason that

0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't fit in right or it does fit

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in as an alien transmission. So there are tons of

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>like um, very powerful bursts here. They're radio transmissions like quasars,

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 1>emit um radio transmissions and UM satellites. There's well, there's

0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of natural ones. I mean the natural ones

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.959
<v Speaker 1>that are very messy. They get spread across the band,

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the electromagnetic pants. So um, if you got like a

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.639
<v Speaker 1>burst from like a quasar or something like that, you

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<v Speaker 1>found it through the big year, you're going to it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna turn up on say like channel fourteen forty four,

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it's going to spill over across the band. They're very messy.

0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.480
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that really makes the Wild signals

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<v Speaker 1>so significant is that it was um tuned. Basically, it

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>appears to have been tuned because it came through only

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>on the fourteen frequency. It didn't spill over, and the

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.959
<v Speaker 1>Big Year was listening to fifty channels. So imagine like

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 1>your radio is tuned, or you have fifty radios tuned

0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:41.159
<v Speaker 1>to and so on right up to fourteen whatever that

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:45.399
<v Speaker 1>goes to fifty channels out Um, the wild signal only

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.679
<v Speaker 1>came through on the fouency right then, So you've got

0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the sharpness, You've got the fact that it was right

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the hydrogen line, you have that

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.680
<v Speaker 1>pyramid shape, and everyone is wondering what the heck is

0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.880
<v Speaker 1>going on? And uh, right after this message, we will

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.199
<v Speaker 1>talk about a few reasons why I may not be

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>an alien transmission. All right, So we've made a bit

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>of a case that there's something hinky that happened on

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:29.640
<v Speaker 1>August seven, Right, Yeah, I think so pretty strong case. Um.

0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Of course, when you make a case like this, it's

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Basically, what

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.439
<v Speaker 1>we've ended up with is this is some evidence. So

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.199
<v Speaker 1>you can't make like a full claim that hey, this

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is definitely an alien trying to get in touch with us,

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 1>because all we have is that SEV burst. We haven't

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>been able to find it since then. Uh, and we've

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:56.440
<v Speaker 1>looked or listened, right, and just attending in an unexplained

0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 1>radio signal doesn't I mean, it's just it's not like

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the signal said, hey, we're broadcasting to you live from

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Kepler forty three B. We'll be seeing you guys in

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>a dr when we come down and take over your

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>planets can be a bad day for you. Um. Yeah,

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>So there's like you said, that it's not in and

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.239
<v Speaker 1>of itself approven alien signal. But um, there are a

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of really unexplainable things that support the idea that

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that's potentially possible. There are a lot of people who

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>have tried to put out explanations to the contrary. Right.

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>For one, they have gone back and listened to that

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.199
<v Speaker 1>same patch of sky over and over again more than

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 1>a hundred times, and no one's ever picked up the

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.440
<v Speaker 1>wild signal again. Yeah, and I have sure it would

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>be nice to go back to that same patch of

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>sky and hear it again. But if it takes a

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of energy to beam a signal like that from

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:57.400
<v Speaker 1>deep space it may have been a one off or um.

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Some people have theorized that maybe if you were an

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>alien civilization, it takes so much power to broadcast in

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>every direction, you might use more of a lighthouse sweeping method, um.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>And so it wouldn't be at that fixed point, you know,

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just out there moving across the sky, right and um,

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it just so happens that the big ear and this

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>lighthouse radio beacon crossed one another the same Yeah, it's

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>just the right time. Um. Yeah, that is a pretty

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>good counter explanation or counter argument to that one. Another

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>one was that it was, um, it was some sort

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>of transmission from Earth projected and reflected off of like

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a piece of space debris. There's a lot of junk

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>out in space. You've seen gravity. I've seen gravity. There's

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of space junk out there, and it can

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>reflect radio signals. Right. But there's some real problems with

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that explanation as well. Yeah, because I believe that from

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Earth we we don't transmit on the hydrogen line, correct, right,

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 1>it's protected, like you're not allowed to transmit on that

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>because people are listening out for aliens on that line.

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>So no bounce back. No, So even if you do

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>have one jerk whose sole purpose in life is to

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>mess with SETI scientists by beaming radio signals at twenty

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>mega hurts um so that they'll get beam back into space.

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Even if there was somebody transmitting and it it's supposedly

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>bounced off a space junk, there's still problems with that explanation.

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>To Chiefly, the space junk would have to be moving

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in the same direction at the exact same rate as

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Earth in order to give the illusion that it was

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>coming from a fixed point in outer space, because remember,

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the Earth would actually it would have to it would

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>have to be even more mind boggling and perfect than that.

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>It would have to be moving at a rate that

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>allowed the Earth to pass by it over the course

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 1>of seventy two seconds. It couldn't just be moving at

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the same rate or else the bigger exactly so um.

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Apparently Jerry Ahman was a skeptic of his own WOW signal,

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and even he was like this, no, that the space debriefing,

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just that probability of everything lining up like that

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>is just so um small that I hereby dismissed that

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>that's what he did and uh, here's the thing. A

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>few years later, I think in nine actually develop the

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>capability for this big year uh, and then other radio

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>telescopes to move on their own. UM. So, in other words,

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>if it would have locked onto that signal, it could

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>have locked on and then counteracted the rotation of the

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Earth and really listened to see how long that thing lasted. Yeah,

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>because we have no idea how long it lasted. We

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>know it lasted at least seventy two seconds, but no

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>more than twenty four hours because it wasn't there the

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>day before, and it wasn't there the day after when

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the Big Year went through and swept past the same

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the same patch of sky. UM. So the data believe me, Yes,

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they did UM. And like we said, they started listening

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>for it, specifically UM the very large array the v

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>l A in the mid nineties, and that is is

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>that in New Mexico. I think, uh, yeah, New Mexico

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>UM that has the power of twenty seven separate radio

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>antenna's UM a hundred times more sensitive than the Big Year.

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>And they specifically UM. This guy named Robert Gray, an

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>amateur astronomer, went looking for it, pointed it towards Sagittarius,

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>which is sort of the rough direction that the wild

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<v Speaker 1>signal came from. And again he's like, I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 1>anything since then. Um, well then, and that's another point

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people say it was nothing, is

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<v Speaker 1>that the that point out in deep space, out in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky. There's nothing there, right, There's no planet, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no star, there's no nothing. So what what is some

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly artificial radio transmission being broadcast from when there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but space out there? Pretty weird? It is very weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, every argument that's been made has been Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a counter argument to an irrational reasonable one.

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<v Speaker 1>So where are we saying that there that this was

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<v Speaker 1>an alien transmission? Not necessarily, but it is still potentially

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<v Speaker 1>a reasonable explanation given the the evidence that the Wow

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<v Speaker 1>signal presents. Yeah, I think, um, the way I like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it is what Jerry Aiman said, Um sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties he says, the best way I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of it is that it was a tug on

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<v Speaker 1>the cosmic fishing line. Doesn't prove that you have a

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<v Speaker 1>fish on the line, but it does suggest it if

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<v Speaker 1>you keep your line in the water at that spot,

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<v Speaker 1>you might get a fish. So I don't know necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>about that spot, but it was it was something that

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<v Speaker 1>we can't quite explain. And um, you know, keep the

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<v Speaker 1>very large array going, like, keep listening, keep watching the

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<v Speaker 1>skis skies. Um, you got anything else? Do we miss anything? Oh? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we could go on about ceti and all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for days. Maybe we will someday. I think the official

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<v Speaker 1>skeptics um line is that what did they finally say?

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<v Speaker 1>They like, it's a the Skeptics Club. Yeah, the Skeptics Club,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, uh oh, an interstellar radio source of unknown

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<v Speaker 1>origin is the official line. So the Skeptics Club A

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<v Speaker 1>big shrug of the shoulders essentially. Yeah, so who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Six e q U J five pretty remarkable. I'll bet

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<v Speaker 1>somebody has that tattooed on them somewhere. I bet he

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<v Speaker 1>spit oh yeah, totally, like on the back of their neck. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet Jerry Amin like spit his coffee all over

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<v Speaker 1>the paper too, you know, did a big spit take. Yeah, uh, classic, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like the Jerry Lewis of astronomers. Uh. If you

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<v Speaker 1>signal or anything like that, you can type some words

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<v Speaker 1>like six e q U J five in the search

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<v Speaker 1>bar at how stuff works dot com. And since I

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<v Speaker 1>said search bar, it's time for a listener mail. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call this purpose of life. We've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great responses from does the Body replace Itself? When

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<v Speaker 1>you went into that really nice philosophical um sidebar on

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<v Speaker 1>like why are we here? I thought it was interesting. Um. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>just finished my four month binge of all seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>write in about does the Body replace itself? Towards the end,

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<v Speaker 1>you discuss the purpose of life and why there can't

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<v Speaker 1>be just a one or a few species. Uh. If

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of life is two cycle carbon et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking as a geologist biologist, the Earth doesn't need life

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<v Speaker 1>for anything. The planet would be just fine with no

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<v Speaker 1>life and no carbon cycling. It would just look quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit different. Uh. Talking about the purpose of life

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<v Speaker 1>like this is an easy and common fallacy that implies

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<v Speaker 1>some need that's being filled. A life's purpose, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it, that is simply to replicate itself.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, at some point there was a molecule able

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<v Speaker 1>to replicate itself as it did that some copies were

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<v Speaker 1>better at replicating than others, and so on and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, it became more effective to be encased in

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<v Speaker 1>a membrane uh than to use d N A. Then

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<v Speaker 1>to use DNA instead of RNA, and so on and

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<v Speaker 1>so on. Everything a lot today shares the history of

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<v Speaker 1>ancestors that replicated and passed on their genes successfully. Life

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to live or die, or eat or breathe

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<v Speaker 1>or swim or fly or photosynthesize or procreate or think

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<v Speaker 1>or love, but it does those things because they help

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<v Speaker 1>it effectively copy and pass on the genes. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamental purpose of life. And though some may think

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<v Speaker 1>it's cynical or heartless, I find it beautiful and truly awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is Danny in Seattle. Thanks a lot, Danny Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>All the atheists and agnostics out there, right, I just

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<v Speaker 1>posted a thing. They have like seven percent more agnostics

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<v Speaker 1>and atheists than the rest of the country, really and

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<v Speaker 1>seven that's pretty significant, and less identify as Christian than

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the country. So there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>godless freaks. Well, thanks Danny for tossing your O pining

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<v Speaker 1>in about the purpose of life or the purposelessness of life. Uh.

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