1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry So it's 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know. Wow. Uh, first of all, I 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: think we should go ahead and apologize to eight Stuff 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: you Should Know fans. And there were more than who 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: have already heard this. Yeah, we went to the World 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Science Festival. We were invited to the World Science Festival 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: in New York City, and we want to give a 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: little special shout out to Ben in the Ace Hotel 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: for putting us up while we were there. Yeah. We 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: did a live podcast short form on Washington Square Park 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: on a Sunday afternoon. It was kind of a neat thing. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, I hate everybody who came out to 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: see us. We appreciated the support. Yeah, actually I thought 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: I knew everyone by name. There were actual Stuff you 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Should Know fans. Yeah, I was gonna apologize to them directly. 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: There were some people who clearly were not familiar with us, 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: and we're just mind blown walking around glazed look in 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: their face. They look kind of defeated. I was like, oh, 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: you like Stuff you Should Know? Now. Yeah. I had 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: a couple of people come up and be like, hey, 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: what do you guys do? This is neat and said, well, 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: you just saw a short version of it. My friend, 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: if you want a lot more side stories and anecdotes, 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: then tune into the long version. Yeah, we had twenty minutes. 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: We had twenty minutes that boy, we had to get 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: down to business. Didn't and we did too. It's not bad. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about tire stores or anything like that. 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: We just talked about the Wow signal. Yeah, this is um. 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I think this is fascinating stuff because this is something 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: that even the most hardened skeptic hasn't been able to 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: fully debunk. Yeah, that's that's a good point. It's pretty 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: neat that you know they're they're upset, probably, so we 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: should say that. We keep saying the wild signal, and 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Chuck's talking about skeptics and everything. There is evidence of 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: a potential transmission from an alien civilization here on Earth, 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: and it's been here on Earth, printed out sitting in 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: the Ohio State University Archives since the nineteen seventies. Yeah, 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: and potential is the key word there. I think that's 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: where most skeptics head will pop off. But you got 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: you gotta say potential you and I did. Yeah, I 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: don't want anybody's head to pop off, you know. Um, 44 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: the thing is, like you said, Chuck, no skeptic has 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: been able to say, here's your explanation, dumb, dumb, And 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: they've tried. There have been plenty of explanations, but every 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: single one has been systematically addressed and reduced the rubble basically. Um, 48 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: so the whole thing finds its roots. Um, like I 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: said back in the seventies, but actually goes further back 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: than that. There's a lot of Um. There's been a 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: lot of talk starting in the twentieth century over aliens. 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Are we the other other people? Are we the only 53 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: life out there? Um? Are there other people on other planets? 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: And if so, can we communicate with them? And astronomers 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: started crunching the numbers and doing the math and said, 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: we basically have two things we can do here. We 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: can try to go visit aliens and look for them 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: in the flesh, expensive, expensive, and potentially impossible. It's like 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: looking for a needle in a haystack. Yeah, but also 60 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: it's the closest, um, the closest planet to us is 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: like a few hundred light years away. I believe four 62 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: hundred plus, right, which means that, um, we take four 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: hundreds something years traveling at the speed of light to 64 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: reach that planet. So we couldn't go find them. Instead, 65 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: we decided that we would try to listen out to 66 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: see if anybody was really leasing any transmissions out there 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: and find traces of alien civilizations that way. Yeah, and um, 68 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: did we do a show on set. No, we've talked 69 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: about it before, all right, the Search for Extra Oh yes, 70 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: did we? We did. I don't remember when it came in. 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: We definitely have talked about it before. Now that you 72 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: say that, I think with one of our south By 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: Southwest or comic cons might have had something to do 74 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: with Oh yeah, the UFOs SSETTI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. 75 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: It's not a single organization, although there is the SETI 76 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Institute now since the early nineteen eighties. But SET is 77 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: a bunch of different groups that um are. They're not 78 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: tinfoil hat wearing crack pots who are bounded determined to 79 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: find if there's life out there, but they're open minded 80 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 1: folks that say, if there isn't life out there, let's 81 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: get ahead of the game here and listen out for 82 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: him and see if they're trying to say something to 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: us right there. They're basically people who say the there's 84 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: just too many stars out there that have planets and 85 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: that have are potentially habitable to life for us. It 86 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: just it just it boggles their mind to think that 87 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: we are the only living beings. And they're scientists, right, 88 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: And to these scientists the much more logical conclusions that 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: were one of many um civilizations out there, and so 90 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: they have dedicated their their astronomical talents to searching for that. Yeah, 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: and this all started happening in the early nineteen seventies 92 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: and Earnest and uh, I think it actually started in 93 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: the sixties and Earnest. But with the Big Ear it 94 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: was in the seventies, their steady program, that's right, nineteen 95 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: seventy three, the Ohio State University Radio Observatory. I love 96 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: that laugh every time. Um, they have something called the 97 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Big Ear, or had something called the Big Ear. Yeah, 98 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: they needed a golf course, though, yes they did, so 99 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: they got rid of the Big Year. Even worse than that, Um, 100 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: the Big Ear Radio Telescope Ohio State was demolished, not 101 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: to build the golf course. But to expand an existing 102 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: golf course, we need another nine holes, right, we need 103 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: another clubhouse. Well, I think the Big Year had seen 104 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: its best days by that point, So don't feel bad 105 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: for the Big Year. I still feel bad for the 106 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Big Year. So nineteen seventy three, the Big Ears starts 107 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: scanning listening for stuff out in outer space, hence the name, 108 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: and UM what would happen is because it was seventy three, Uh, 109 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: it would print stuff out on a dot matrix printer 110 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: and UH student would uh student assistant would take that 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: print out of of what it was listening to and 112 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: take it to another volunteer, UM teachers, professors, and they 113 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: would just basically look at all these numbers. Yeah, page 114 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: by page by page. If you've ever seen the wild signal, 115 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: you it's just numbers ones, twos, maybe a three here there. Yeah, 116 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: it's the level of background noise in space exactly. So, um, 117 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: A one is blip a radio transmission that was one 118 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: time the intensity of the normal background noise in space 119 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: on a particular frequency. Right, A one is nothing like 120 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: there's ones all over the place all the time. There's ones, 121 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: twos and threes. Yeah, very common stuff. Um. And so 122 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: this these these poor astronomers who were donating their time 123 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: to the bigger telescope. We're basically they were the the 124 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: They were analyzing the stuff with their eyes. Yeah, there 125 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: wasn't like a computer program they spit it into. They 126 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: looked at this computer print out sheet after sheet after sheet, right, 127 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: So for they would look at a whole night's scan 128 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: of deep space from a radio telescope, again with their 129 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: eyes going over sheets and heets of computer paper, dot matrix, 130 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 1: printer paper, and UM, that's what this guy named Jerry Aman, 131 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: who was an astronomer at Ohio State, was doing UM 132 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 1: on August eighteen, nineteen seventy seven. He was looking over 133 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: some stuff from three days before. Yeah, and so he's 134 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: scanning all the stuff and there's ones, twos, and threes, 135 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's watching uh, Love American Style 136 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: on TV and eating his TV dinner and he's bored 137 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: out of his mind love American stuff and he's bored 138 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: out of his skull. And then UM, well here's another 139 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: important thing to point out, because it was also nineteen 140 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: seventy three, that was the seventy seven. At this point, 141 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: they didn't have UM double digit print outs. It just 142 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: went one through nine and then started with the letter A, B, C, 143 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: D AS ten, eleven, twelve and so on, right exactly. 144 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: So he's reading this stuff and he sees six e 145 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: q U J five, which means the transmission at its 146 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: peak of you peaked at thirty times louder than anything 147 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: they had ever seen before. Then the normal background noise, 148 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: and he circled it and put wow exclamation point on 149 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: the paper. And that's why it's the Wow signal, exactly. 150 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: And this is a big deal. I mean, like, in 151 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: this whole huge ream of dot matrix paper filled with 152 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: ones and twos and maybe a three here there, there's 153 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: a you standing in the middle of this string which 154 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: was high. Yeah. I mean six alone would be like whoa, 155 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: this is kind of significant. This thing went up to you, 156 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: and like you said, he circled it and wrote wow 157 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: next to him. It became the Wow signal, and um, 158 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: almost immediately they started investigating this thing. Sure, And there 159 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: are a lot of details to the Wow signal that 160 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: are make it even more impressive than just the fact 161 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: that it peaked at you, started at six and ended 162 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: at five and peaked at you. There's a lot of 163 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: different aspects of the Wow signal that make people say, 164 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: what in the name of God is this? And we 165 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: will start getting those details right after this break. So, Chuck, 166 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about how the wild signal looks on 167 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: dot matrix papers six e q u J five, and 168 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: that means that at its peak it goes from six 169 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: times the normal background noise all the way up to 170 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: thirty times and then back down to five times the 171 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: normal background noise over what we know over seventy two seconds, Yes, 172 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: which is very significant. It turns out so um. The 173 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Big Ear telescope, we should say a little bit more 174 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: about it was a crowds telescope. It was built in 175 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the sixties and it didn't move it um eavesdropped on 176 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: the electromagnetic radio spectrum UM coming from outer space. Eaves 177 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: dropped on it. But it used the rotation of the 178 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: Earth to move it. Yeah, it didn't pan its little 179 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: big ear back and forth. It wasn't a show off, No, 180 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: it just stayed fixed. The rotation the Earth very slowly 181 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: would pick up a new patch of Earth at the 182 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: rate of the Earth spin right. So um, the big 183 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: ears the sky at the rate of the Earth spin right, 184 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: and so it's just pointing out there in deep space, 185 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: and as the Earth rotates, it would move the big 186 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: ears field of reception I guess across any given point 187 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: in the sky over a seventy two second period. And 188 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: it just so happens that the six e q u 189 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: J five wild signal transmission was seventy two seconds, which 190 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: suggests something very important here, Chuck. It suggests that the 191 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: wild signal came from a fixed point in the sky 192 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: that was staying in one place, and the Big Year 193 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: just swept past it over the course of its normal 194 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: seventy two seconds. Yeah, And uh, I liken it to 195 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: like if you're driving through the desert listening to your radio. Uh, 196 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: your signal, the further you are from that radio transmitter 197 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: or that radio station is going to be pretty faint. 198 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: And then as you get closer and have that direct signal, 199 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: it's gonna peak. And then as you drive further past it, 200 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna get more faint again. And that's what shape 201 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: that this wild signal took. It took the shape of 202 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: a pyramid if you graph it out. And I believe 203 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: that's the Doppler effect because I always hear the Doppler 204 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: effect being explained by how an ambulance siren sounds far 205 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: away and then gets louder as it gets closer, and 206 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: then it gets, you know, weaker, the further way you get. Yeah, well, 207 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: it also changed his pitch though, isn't that the Doppler effect? 208 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: I think so. It's not just loudness. It's like er 209 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: er er. If you're in England, did you change pitch 210 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: just then? Yeah, you didn't hear any difference. No, you 211 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: didn't hear it go down in volume. You didn't hear 212 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: it go down in in tone? No? Wow? Did you really? 213 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Are you tone deaf? I don't think so. It would 214 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: explain a lot as far as karaoke goes. Do you 215 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: sind karaoke? Did you recently? What do you say? Um? 216 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: I got some songs here there? You can't You can't 217 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: tell us one of them? Is that too revealing? No? 218 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: Let me think of one of my karaoke songs. My 219 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: big move is always under pressure and someone's always like, oh, 220 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: i'll do it with you'll do the bowie part. I 221 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: might not do both parts. I recently sang um I 222 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: have a tiger. Oh, yeah, there you go. I have 223 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: a big problem though, with my karaoke stuff. A lot 224 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: of the songs that I pick are just slightly out 225 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: of the key that I can comfortably achieve. Well, if 226 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: you're picking eighties rock, then yeah, but you would think 227 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: the Tiger that the the guy's not singing that high picture, 228 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: although I know he hits that high note and I 229 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: knew that, But from the start that guy starts out 230 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: like a little higher than I can go. So it's 231 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: just it's not necessarily a treat for everyone around me 232 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: when I'm singing karaoke, because I accidentally every once in 233 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: a while I have a night where like every song 234 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: I pick is right in my wheelhouse and I'm nailing him. 235 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: But for the most part, it's uh yeah, I woarrible 236 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess I think the key to 237 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: karaoke is to get your songs that you know you 238 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: can do and kind of stick to those. Well, I'm 239 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm not like a pro. Well you know, uh like 240 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I did Foreigners Cold as Ice one time by accident 241 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: because the song I wanted to do, I think, under pressure, 242 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: someone had done and I was they were calling me. 243 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, I guess I'll just do this, 244 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: and the karaoke guy hit in Philadelphia said, well, I 245 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: hope you're hope you can have a vice for your testicles, 246 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: but you didn't say testicles why? And then I remembered 247 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: how high that song was. It is. It's a disaster 248 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: that I have the Tigers not that far off. Um 249 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: and I should give a plug here to um. Sig 250 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Gold's Request Room. If you're in New York City, you 251 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: should go to sig Gold's Request Room. It's on one 252 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: of those private karaoke twenty six. It's not private. It's 253 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: just a piano karaoke bar, not private room. But it's 254 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: a back room with like a heavy curtain, so there's 255 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: a sense that it's private, but it's not private. It's 256 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: just you just show up and but it's live. It's 257 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: a guy playing piano instead of a backing track. Yeah, 258 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: it's a guy named Joe McGuinty. He's a very good 259 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: talented musician. He's actually a friend of you, Mace, and 260 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: he used to play for the Psychedelic First and he 261 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: now he's one of the owners of Sig Gold's Request Room. Man, 262 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: that place is gonna blow up now, I hope so 263 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: it should. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, Alright, boy, 264 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: that was a good segue or not segue, because that 265 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: leads to nothing. No, it leads to how do we 266 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: get on that Doppler effect? Yeah? Exactly, So, uh, let's 267 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: talk about set again. Let's bring this all back home 268 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: set or the different STIs around the world. Decided at 269 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: one point that UM, like you said, a good way 270 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: to find transmission might be to listen out for it. 271 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: And if we're gonna listen, UM, what would be the 272 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: most likely UM radio station that they would transmit? Well, yeah, 273 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean like and of course it's not a radio station. 274 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: I'd say that as a joke, but but that was 275 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: the first That was the first. Um. That wasn't the 276 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: first thing they thought of. Like if if you say, okay, 277 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: we can't go to distant planets to start searching for aliens, 278 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: there's just it's just too far away. We would all 279 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: die on the way there. Right, we're gonna wait for 280 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: them to come down and play a mood at Devil's Tower. Instead, 281 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna look for traces of them. Yeah, how can 282 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: we find But that were listening wasn't immediately the thing. 283 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: They started thinking like in different ways that you could 284 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: find evidence of alien civilizations. And finally what they settled 285 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: on was there, if you're an alien civilization, you are 286 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: probably familiar with the electromagnetic spectrum, So let's start looking there. 287 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: And they started looking at the electromagnetic spectrum to see 288 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: maybe where you would find some sort of evidence of 289 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: alien civilization. And they thought, how about the radio band. Yeah, 290 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: there were a couple of physicists from Cornell in the sixties, 291 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Philip Morrison and Giesipicconi, who reckoned that, you know, they're 292 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: going to find a common language. They're going to broadcast 293 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: on what's like the most common language of the universe, 294 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: hydrogen Espanola, espaniola. Not quite uh. I'm sort of being 295 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: fun here with like saying, it's a radio stay and 296 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: it's a line. But hydrogen is the most abundant common 297 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: element in the universe, and there is a hydrogen line 298 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: hydrogen frequency, so they figured this may be a good 299 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: place to start listening. Yeah, and and um, Hydrogen's protons flip. 300 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: They change spin pretty pretty much all the time, right, 301 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: And as they flip and change their spin, they admit 302 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, just a tiny teensy bit of electromagnetic radiation, 303 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: like a little glow right, and that the frequency of 304 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: that emission is at four hundred and twenty mega hurts. 305 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Since hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe 306 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: and hydrogen is flipping all of the time, it's also 307 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: emitting this radiation all the time, which makes twenty mega 308 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: hurts the most common frequency on the entire electro magnetic spectrum. 309 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Oh hydrogen all the time. And again the city researchers 310 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: Philip Morris and just set be um and I know 311 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: it's Philip Morrison. I was just making a show, a 312 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: tobacco joke. They have their hands and everything. Um. Since 313 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: these guys said they would probably transmit somewhere on the 314 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: radio spectrum, um, and they would probably be familiar with 315 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: radio spectrums and electromagnetism, they would also probably know, just 316 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: like we just figured out, that the most common frequency 317 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: in the entire universe, no matter where you are, mega hurts. 318 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: So maybe this would be a really good place to 319 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: listen out for alien radio transmissions. That's right, and the 320 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: wild signal was broadcast at four point four or five 321 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: five six mega hurts right in the middle of the 322 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: hydrogen line, right on the most common frequency in the 323 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: entire universe. We found in nineteen seven radio transmission that 324 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: was thirty times strong or than the normal background noise 325 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: on that frequency. That's right, and that makes uh made 326 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: scientists go holy cow or wow. That even made skeptics go, oh, 327 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: but what's this all about? Exactly the shape of it, 328 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: like we talked about the pyramid shape, um, is exactly 329 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: what you would expect. So that made everyone sit up 330 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: and go all right, well there's also that. And then 331 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: the sharpness, I know is the third big reason that 332 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: it just doesn't fit in right or it does fit 333 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: in as an alien transmission. So there are tons of 334 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: like um, very powerful bursts here. They're radio transmissions like quasars, 335 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: emit um radio transmissions and UM satellites. There's well, there's 336 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: a lot of natural ones. I mean the natural ones 337 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: that are very messy. They get spread across the band, 338 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: the electromagnetic pants. So um, if you got like a 339 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: burst from like a quasar or something like that, you 340 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: found it through the big year, you're going to it's 341 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: gonna turn up on say like channel fourteen forty four, 342 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: it's going to spill over across the band. They're very messy. 343 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: One of the things that really makes the Wild signals 344 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: so significant is that it was um tuned. Basically, it 345 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: appears to have been tuned because it came through only 346 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: on the fourteen frequency. It didn't spill over, and the 347 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: Big Year was listening to fifty channels. So imagine like 348 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: your radio is tuned, or you have fifty radios tuned 349 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: to and so on right up to fourteen whatever that 350 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: goes to fifty channels out Um, the wild signal only 351 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: came through on the fouency right then, So you've got 352 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: the sharpness, You've got the fact that it was right 353 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of the hydrogen line, you have that 354 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: pyramid shape, and everyone is wondering what the heck is 355 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: going on? And uh, right after this message, we will 356 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: talk about a few reasons why I may not be 357 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: an alien transmission. All right, So we've made a bit 358 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: of a case that there's something hinky that happened on 359 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: August seven, Right, Yeah, I think so pretty strong case. Um. 360 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: Of course, when you make a case like this, it's 361 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: like they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Basically, what 362 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: we've ended up with is this is some evidence. So 363 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: you can't make like a full claim that hey, this 364 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: is definitely an alien trying to get in touch with us, 365 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: because all we have is that SEV burst. We haven't 366 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: been able to find it since then. Uh, and we've 367 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: looked or listened, right, and just attending in an unexplained 368 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: radio signal doesn't I mean, it's just it's not like 369 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: the signal said, hey, we're broadcasting to you live from 370 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: Kepler forty three B. We'll be seeing you guys in 371 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: a dr when we come down and take over your 372 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: planets can be a bad day for you. Um. Yeah, 373 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: So there's like you said, that it's not in and 374 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: of itself approven alien signal. But um, there are a 375 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: lot of really unexplainable things that support the idea that 376 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: that's potentially possible. There are a lot of people who 377 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: have tried to put out explanations to the contrary. Right. 378 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: For one, they have gone back and listened to that 379 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: same patch of sky over and over again more than 380 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: a hundred times, and no one's ever picked up the 381 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: wild signal again. Yeah, and I have sure it would 382 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: be nice to go back to that same patch of 383 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: sky and hear it again. But if it takes a 384 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: lot of energy to beam a signal like that from 385 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: deep space it may have been a one off or um. 386 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Some people have theorized that maybe if you were an 387 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: alien civilization, it takes so much power to broadcast in 388 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: every direction, you might use more of a lighthouse sweeping method, um. 389 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: And so it wouldn't be at that fixed point, you know, 390 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: it's just out there moving across the sky, right and um, 391 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: it just so happens that the big ear and this 392 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: lighthouse radio beacon crossed one another the same Yeah, it's 393 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: just the right time. Um. Yeah, that is a pretty 394 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: good counter explanation or counter argument to that one. Another 395 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: one was that it was, um, it was some sort 396 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: of transmission from Earth projected and reflected off of like 397 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: a piece of space debris. There's a lot of junk 398 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: out in space. You've seen gravity. I've seen gravity. There's 399 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: a lot of space junk out there, and it can 400 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: reflect radio signals. Right. But there's some real problems with 401 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: that explanation as well. Yeah, because I believe that from 402 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: Earth we we don't transmit on the hydrogen line, correct, right, 403 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: it's protected, like you're not allowed to transmit on that 404 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: because people are listening out for aliens on that line. 405 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: So no bounce back. No, So even if you do 406 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: have one jerk whose sole purpose in life is to 407 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: mess with SETI scientists by beaming radio signals at twenty 408 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: mega hurts um so that they'll get beam back into space. 409 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: Even if there was somebody transmitting and it it's supposedly 410 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: bounced off a space junk, there's still problems with that explanation. 411 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: To Chiefly, the space junk would have to be moving 412 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: in the same direction at the exact same rate as 413 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: Earth in order to give the illusion that it was 414 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: coming from a fixed point in outer space, because remember, 415 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: the Earth would actually it would have to it would 416 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: have to be even more mind boggling and perfect than that. 417 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: It would have to be moving at a rate that 418 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: allowed the Earth to pass by it over the course 419 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: of seventy two seconds. It couldn't just be moving at 420 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: the same rate or else the bigger exactly so um. 421 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: Apparently Jerry Ahman was a skeptic of his own WOW signal, 422 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: and even he was like this, no, that the space debriefing, 423 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: It's just that probability of everything lining up like that 424 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: is just so um small that I hereby dismissed that 425 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: that's what he did and uh, here's the thing. A 426 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: few years later, I think in nine actually develop the 427 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: capability for this big year uh, and then other radio 428 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: telescopes to move on their own. UM. So, in other words, 429 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: if it would have locked onto that signal, it could 430 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: have locked on and then counteracted the rotation of the 431 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: Earth and really listened to see how long that thing lasted. Yeah, 432 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: because we have no idea how long it lasted. We 433 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: know it lasted at least seventy two seconds, but no 434 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: more than twenty four hours because it wasn't there the 435 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: day before, and it wasn't there the day after when 436 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: the Big Year went through and swept past the same 437 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: the same patch of sky. UM. So the data believe me, Yes, 438 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: they did UM. And like we said, they started listening 439 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: for it, specifically UM the very large array the v 440 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: l A in the mid nineties, and that is is 441 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: that in New Mexico. I think, uh, yeah, New Mexico 442 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: UM that has the power of twenty seven separate radio 443 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: antenna's UM a hundred times more sensitive than the Big Year. 444 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: And they specifically UM. This guy named Robert Gray, an 445 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: amateur astronomer, went looking for it, pointed it towards Sagittarius, 446 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: which is sort of the rough direction that the wild 447 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: signal came from. And again he's like, I haven't heard 448 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: anything since then. Um, well then, and that's another point 449 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: that a lot of people say it was nothing, is 450 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: that the that point out in deep space, out in 451 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: the sky. There's nothing there, right, There's no planet, there's 452 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: no star, there's no nothing. So what what is some 453 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: seemingly artificial radio transmission being broadcast from when there's nothing 454 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: but space out there? Pretty weird? It is very weird. 455 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: But again, every argument that's been made has been Uh, 456 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: you can make a counter argument to an irrational reasonable one. 457 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: So where are we saying that there that this was 458 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: an alien transmission? Not necessarily, but it is still potentially 459 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: a reasonable explanation given the the evidence that the Wow 460 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: signal presents. Yeah, I think, um, the way I like 461 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: looking at it is what Jerry Aiman said, Um sometimes 462 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: in the eighties he says, the best way I can 463 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: think of it is that it was a tug on 464 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the cosmic fishing line. Doesn't prove that you have a 465 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: fish on the line, but it does suggest it if 466 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: you keep your line in the water at that spot, 467 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: you might get a fish. So I don't know necessarily 468 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: about that spot, but it was it was something that 469 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: we can't quite explain. And um, you know, keep the 470 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: very large array going, like, keep listening, keep watching the 471 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: skis skies. Um, you got anything else? Do we miss anything? Oh? Man, 472 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: we could go on about ceti and all that stuff 473 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: for days. Maybe we will someday. I think the official 474 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: skeptics um line is that what did they finally say? 475 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: They like, it's a the Skeptics Club. Yeah, the Skeptics Club, 476 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: they said, uh oh, an interstellar radio source of unknown 477 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: origin is the official line. So the Skeptics Club A 478 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: big shrug of the shoulders essentially. Yeah, so who knows? 479 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Six e q U J five pretty remarkable. I'll bet 480 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: somebody has that tattooed on them somewhere. I bet he 481 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: spit oh yeah, totally, like on the back of their neck. Um. 482 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I bet Jerry Amin like spit his coffee all over 483 00:29:51,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: the paper too, you know, did a big spit take. Yeah, uh, classic, totally. 484 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: He's like the Jerry Lewis of astronomers. Uh. If you 485 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: want to know more about Jerry Lewis or the Wow 486 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: signal or anything like that, you can type some words 487 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: like six e q U J five in the search 488 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: bar at how stuff works dot com. And since I 489 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: said search bar, it's time for a listener mail. I'm 490 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna call this purpose of life. We've got a lot 491 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: of great responses from does the Body replace Itself? When 492 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: you went into that really nice philosophical um sidebar on 493 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: like why are we here? I thought it was interesting. Um. Hey, guys, 494 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: just finished my four month binge of all seven hundred 495 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: plus episodes of stuff you should know you wanted to 496 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: write in about does the Body replace itself? Towards the end, 497 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: you discuss the purpose of life and why there can't 498 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: be just a one or a few species. Uh. If 499 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the purpose of life is two cycle carbon et cetera, 500 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: speaking as a geologist biologist, the Earth doesn't need life 501 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: for anything. The planet would be just fine with no 502 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: life and no carbon cycling. It would just look quite 503 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: a bit different. Uh. Talking about the purpose of life 504 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: like this is an easy and common fallacy that implies 505 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: some need that's being filled. A life's purpose, if you 506 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: want to call it, that is simply to replicate itself. 507 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: That is, at some point there was a molecule able 508 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: to replicate itself as it did that some copies were 509 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: better at replicating than others, and so on and so on. 510 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Over time, it became more effective to be encased in 511 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: a membrane uh than to use d N A. Then 512 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: to use DNA instead of RNA, and so on and 513 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: so on. Everything a lot today shares the history of 514 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: ancestors that replicated and passed on their genes successfully. Life 515 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: doesn't need to live or die, or eat or breathe 516 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: or swim or fly or photosynthesize or procreate or think 517 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: or love, but it does those things because they help 518 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: it effectively copy and pass on the genes. This is 519 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: the fundamental purpose of life. And though some may think 520 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: it's cynical or heartless, I find it beautiful and truly awesome. 521 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: And that is Danny in Seattle. Thanks a lot, Danny Seattle. 522 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: All the atheists and agnostics out there, right, I just 523 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: posted a thing. They have like seven percent more agnostics 524 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: and atheists than the rest of the country, really and 525 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: seven that's pretty significant, and less identify as Christian than 526 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the country. So there's a bunch of 527 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: godless freaks. Well, thanks Danny for tossing your O pining 528 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: in about the purpose of life or the purposelessness of life. Uh. 529 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: If you want to chime in on this whole thing, 530 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: we can keep it going. You can tweet to us 531 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: at s Y s K podcast. You can join us 532 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: on Facebook, dot com, slash stuff you Should Know. 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