Speaker 1: Bootleg cap podcast. We got a legend in here, man,
Speaker 1: you are a legend. Well, look I grew up watching
Speaker 1: you play basketball at a very high level. I'm thirty five,
Speaker 1: so that was like my era. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: lamar odom is here man? What's good? Bro? It's crazy?
Speaker 1: I just uh, just so randomly, Like last week, I
Speaker 1: was in Phoenix at my parents' house and I I
Speaker 1: pulled a lot of my old ship out of storage
Speaker 1: and I found the Slam magazine cover with you and
Speaker 1: a Darius Miles and was a cute rich on it
Speaker 1: that one brand, that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, a legendary cover. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was my idea too, for us to way each
Speaker 1: other's jerseys and put them on backwards. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a It's crazy because like when you go back
Speaker 1: and look at the roster of like those some of
Speaker 1: those Clippers teams you were on, just so talented. Man,
Speaker 1: just like it just didn't I guess it didn't work out,
Speaker 1: but fuck you guys. Had you guys were deep. If
Speaker 1: we had, if that team would have had like one
Speaker 1: we the mic in front of you, Yeah, if that
Speaker 1: team would have had like like one veteran Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was like respecting the league that we could have learned
Speaker 1: from because everybody was young, good habits. Yeah, we was
Speaker 1: just out there with hooping. Yeah, it's crazy. I was like,
Speaker 1: how crazy was it back? Did you guys, like when
Speaker 1: you were playing for the Clippers, did you like know
Speaker 1: much about Donald Sterling being like a shithead or was
Speaker 1: it like you know, I mean, I knew that he
Speaker 1: had the reputation that he wasn't going to pay anybody cheap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, even though you're young and you understand
Speaker 1: the business a little bit, at that point in time
Speaker 1: your career, I kind of knew that I was probably
Speaker 1: gonna be there long because I knew that I was,
Speaker 1: you know, good enough to be a max paid player
Speaker 1: and he wasn't going he was a cheap owner. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He knew the system on out of you know, not
Speaker 1: win games and still come up on a plus side
Speaker 1: as far as making money, because that's it was like
Speaker 1: all about the bottom line. Man. It's like, why would
Speaker 1: we spend money to win a championship? I'm making money
Speaker 1: at then every year, stay shitty and draft players. He
Speaker 1: had no love for the game or for the brothers.
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously yeah. I mean, I'm a Son's fan and
Speaker 1: we've been dealing with it. Oh, the cheapest owner in
Speaker 1: basketball for the last Well, I feel bad for the
Speaker 1: Suns fans because they ain't gonna never get with probably
Speaker 1: which I probably deserve, probably to change the mascot. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? You don't like the gorilla? Nah? Do
Speaker 1: you think there's like some racial connotations with the Sons gorilla?
Speaker 1: Come on, bro? And then the thing that's funny is
Speaker 1: like they kind of like slicked slid that one by
Speaker 1: for all these years, nobody like says anything about that. Okay,
Speaker 1: it is random gorillas in the desert. You can't find
Speaker 1: any well, that's what I was gonna say. You can
Speaker 1: probably find a cactus or in terms of like the
Speaker 1: animal chosen were in Phoenix, it's the Suns. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they say in basketball, bro, It's just like,
Speaker 1: come on, you think it's on purpose. But you know
Speaker 1: what's so really crazy about it is that it was
Speaker 1: a They just tried it because they wanted to get
Speaker 1: some They want to get the fans involved, right, and
Speaker 1: that's the reason why they kept it, because the fans
Speaker 1: loved it. But you don't think it was like Jerry Calandros,
Speaker 1: like not purposely trying to, I'm just saying though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not good representation because Phoenix is like the last
Speaker 1: city to recognize doctor King as a as all them
Speaker 1: already know. No, Phoenix has a gorilla. Okay, we do
Speaker 1: have some terrible histories, and it's just like how they
Speaker 1: change what they changed the Redskins and the Indian to
Speaker 1: the Commanders. Yeah, I think it's probably probably about that
Speaker 1: time as a woke young black man in America right now,
Speaker 1: and it's climate. I'm surprised Chris Paul hasn't said anything
Speaker 1: about it. You know what it is, man, The Son's
Speaker 1: gorilla is so popular in Phoenix. Yeah, I bet it is.
Speaker 1: I bet it is. It's like and that guy and
Speaker 1: the mascot is one like mascot of the year so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then there's a wild crazy gorilla. He ain't like
Speaker 1: tanged or nothing like that. No, he's a pretty chill gorilla. Nah,
Speaker 1: were jumping up off the roof and all that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a mascot. I've been I've not I've been watching
Speaker 1: it though I'm hip to it. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And you don't have forty two. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at todes. That thing's totally different. I'm
Speaker 1: forty three. I respect it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, like any chance you was there
Speaker 1: any any discussions where every thought you might end up
Speaker 1: on the Suns? No? No, And it was crazy because
Speaker 1: when I was playing, that's something that just just went
Speaker 1: over my head. The Gorilla. Yeah, I think I probably
Speaker 1: started paying attention to it a little bit more when
Speaker 1: I've seen Seas doing MC yeah said he was, He's
Speaker 1: he's he said, is a great DJ too. He's Yeah,
Speaker 1: does radio and ship. He's a legend and AZ for sure,
Speaker 1: shout out to said, and a Lakers legend. He made Yeah,
Speaker 1: did make the list? Did he make the list of
Speaker 1: top seventy five lists? I'm not sure he's on that.
Speaker 1: You you were on that right? Yeah? Well, first of all, congratulations,
Speaker 1: because that's a big honor to be, I mean, the
Speaker 1: most storied franchised. I'd rather have my number retired. You
Speaker 1: think that's coming. I don't know, Ship, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm I mean, I feel like I but
Speaker 1: you one thing at home, motherfucker. Get an individual Award
Speaker 1: and shoot, the reality showed the same season. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you patted myself on the back,
Speaker 1: but you got six Man of the Year the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I shot, I was shooting Chloe in Themore that year.
Speaker 1: D I forgot you guys had Chloe in the More.
Speaker 1: I definitely watched that, damn Yo. Just that whole like
Speaker 1: era of the Lakers was so wild to me because
Speaker 1: like I think, like you got traded for Miami, there
Speaker 1: was like a point in time where like Kobe was
Speaker 1: a little unhappy. I forget it was. I think it
Speaker 1: was the year before you guys got Palgasol, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember, like Phoenix Talk radio, everybody was like, yo,
Speaker 1: the Sons might try to trade for Kobe, and then
Speaker 1: it obviously didn't happen. But he probably was bluffing just
Speaker 1: to make things happen overnight because that Chris Paul trade,
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't going to Kobe would have never left LA.
Speaker 1: He wasn't right crazy. What was it like being on
Speaker 1: the team when the league shuts down the Chris Paul trade. Well,
Speaker 1: for me, I was happy because I was in the trade.
Speaker 1: You were supposed to get sent to New Orleans. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well year, what was that like, oh, seven oh eight,
Speaker 1: I was eleven. I think pal Gasol was in the trade.
Speaker 1: Ten or eleven. You were in the trade, powers in
Speaker 1: the trade. It doesn't happen. David Stern shuts it down.
Speaker 1: You're happy, though, because you want to stay in LA. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was that weird coming back to the team after like
Speaker 1: they just tried a trade or did you just kind
Speaker 1: of understand it was business? Nah? Shit, I ain't never
Speaker 1: going to I've been in LA since I was nineteen
Speaker 1: years old. But I just mean in terms of like
Speaker 1: that Chris Paul trade not happening. But you foind you
Speaker 1: obviously saying but you find out you're a part of
Speaker 1: the trade, it gets canceled. When you come back to
Speaker 1: the team, it's over with. There's underneath the bridge, knows
Speaker 1: under the water now. Yeah, I'm just happy to be
Speaker 1: back at that point in time. Yeah, would you? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you saw kind of like both extremes of playing
Speaker 1: in l A from the Clippers to the Lakers, how
Speaker 1: it was even though you guys were in the same building.
Speaker 1: Did you feel that like just the different like organizationally,
Speaker 1: did you feel the difference in terms of like management, culture,
Speaker 1: all that ship. Well, everything is different. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Expectancy, The expectations are crazy like the
Speaker 1: Clippers to this day. You know, if they had a
Speaker 1: better season in Lakers knowing then they had a great season. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also no one gives the Lakers trying to be
Speaker 1: the best team in the NBA. Yeah. So I think
Speaker 1: that's the difference in the town too. Yeah, La, it
Speaker 1: ain't no difference than Oh no, no no, if you live here,
Speaker 1: you know, nobody fucks with the clip. No they do,
Speaker 1: but not many people they do. Yeah, there's a there's
Speaker 1: a few Clipper shout that my man Clipper Daryl, Clipper,
Speaker 1: Darryl has something. I mean, I'm gonna be I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep it real with you. He's lost bets to me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep you know, shout out to my man
Speaker 1: Kadem Hardiston, Malcolm in the middle, like they were there
Speaker 1: when we was expected to lose. Uh. What's the old
Speaker 1: old comedian dude's name. Uh, that's always at the Clipper games,
Speaker 1: the old white dude. He had a sitcom. Fuck you
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about, Bro, I don't know my
Speaker 1: rookie year, Bro, We lost twenty games in a row
Speaker 1: by twenty, So I mean it was average getting blown out.
Speaker 1: You lost twenty in a row by twenty. That's a
Speaker 1: total fat? Is that a fat? Is that like a record?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Probably gott to be close to it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Now was that the year before? Was
Speaker 1: Michael allow conde arty with y'all? Yeah? Wow, that was
Speaker 1: his second year? Yeah, my rookie year was his second year. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's great. That's terrible. Was Alvin Gentry the coach one
Speaker 1: of our coaches? Oh man, that's that's that's like some
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Shit. I mean the Clippers low k here,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like before Chris Paul went to the Clippers,
Speaker 1: I looked at the Clippers as like the worst organization
Speaker 1: in all sports until they got Obama, right, because the
Speaker 1: owner a team is going to be a reflection of
Speaker 1: the owner. I mean even before he sold. I mean
Speaker 1: when there was Blake Griffin and CP it was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: they at least they're they're good. No yah, they were
Speaker 1: turning around because the product they had talent, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, some energy and Chris Paul was a veteran. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even though he had, you know, young Blake Griffin. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If if my team just had like
Speaker 1: a veteran presence, just the presence, not even the output
Speaker 1: on the court, right, I feel what I'm saying, just
Speaker 1: to tame us off the court, help us without practice
Speaker 1: happiting shit like that, that team would have been made
Speaker 1: noise in the playoffs. How crazy was off the court?
Speaker 1: Two thousand Clippers two thousand and one Clippers were y'all
Speaker 1: hitting the club all the time, all the time. I
Speaker 1: was like the kind of the leader. We used to
Speaker 1: go to the hotel. We used to get to the hotel,
Speaker 1: Me me downstairs. We would just be city. Y'all were
Speaker 1: in you guys just turn it out wow to the club.
Speaker 1: Average city. Who was like your number one, like a
Speaker 1: partner in crime, be me, Jeff mcguinnis demus Q. We was.
Speaker 1: We used to always hang tight off the court, even
Speaker 1: the dudes that didn't we really even like each other.
Speaker 1: I think I was kind of like the bridge, you
Speaker 1: kind of like bridged everybody that kind of blew damn.
Speaker 1: I can imagine Darius Miles, Tom I mean, were all
Speaker 1: in La now. Everybody got it like a little men
Speaker 1: I was in the pocket, all into the same shit
Speaker 1: everybody's been to, the sneakers and girls, same ship that
Speaker 1: we went too. Now, Yeah, but it was new. It
Speaker 1: was new to you back then. Yeah yeah, out straight
Speaker 1: out of high school or college wherever he was at
Speaker 1: a little Darius Miles got drafted out of high school.
Speaker 1: High school? Damn? So was he even eighteen or was
Speaker 1: he like he was a right, So you're just and
Speaker 1: I was nineteen twenty. I was twenty one. You guys
Speaker 1: weren't even old enough to drink. We was everywhere in
Speaker 1: the clubs. Are just doing hotel parties. Hotel parties? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, so in the club in the club, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't the NBA experience to party in your hotel.
Speaker 1: We was out. I can only imagine that era had
Speaker 1: to be so much more fun because you have so
Speaker 1: much less shit to worry about. The social media on
Speaker 1: that shit wasn't now, so you could you could fuck
Speaker 1: off and like truly fuck off and not worry about
Speaker 1: being on TMZ the next day or Twitter or whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck is. You can have fun. You can have
Speaker 1: innocent fun and not have to worry about being on
Speaker 1: because you can like not do anything. You could just
Speaker 1: be out at a club and like, I just saw you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw. They posted a video of Lebron
Speaker 1: gambling and they're trying to make it like a bad
Speaker 1: thing because he was playing blackjack. I'm like, who gives
Speaker 1: a fuck exactly, He's just you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch it back over everything. Now, do you
Speaker 1: find because you've been through so much, man, do you
Speaker 1: find yourself more calculated now? In terms of just like
Speaker 1: you got I'm older, I learned, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you've been through. I'm gonna make the same mistakes. Of course,
Speaker 1: you feel me that I made when I was nineteen,
Speaker 1: that i'd be insane. Yeah, I feel I try to,
Speaker 1: you know, at least get better every day. You have to, man,
Speaker 1: I feel me, like, look, just think about it. I
Speaker 1: got suspended twice for smoking wheed, so it's crazy. Probably
Speaker 1: cost me like thirty million dollars if I think about
Speaker 1: it because of the Did it affected your next deals?
Speaker 1: Because I was a free agent, you had a stigma.
Speaker 1: Oh this guy smokes weed, he's he's a troublemaker. But which,
Speaker 1: by the way, now we know it doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 1: They don't even test for we in the NBA. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you feel me. Yeah, now I'm about to
Speaker 1: get paid for selling, for selling dope, they call it dope.
Speaker 1: I hate that word. It's amazing. You got your own
Speaker 1: weed coming out, you feel me? What's the we called?
Speaker 1: It's Odham cannabis is with flight path and on the
Speaker 1: first two strings it's gonna be cereal milk and nice.
Speaker 1: Got some dope package. How would you guys hide weed
Speaker 1: back in the day when you're playing, Like, would you
Speaker 1: know if you were going to get pissed tested or
Speaker 1: was it random? Yeah, that's what I'm saying about the
Speaker 1: youth ship right right. I know that I'm getting tested
Speaker 1: mm hmm. So and you're still doing it, but you knew, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were just kind of hoping that. You know what, roulette,
Speaker 1: what's your career? Yeah, like, I know, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm young. I don't give a fuck it, Just like
Speaker 1: it was the time where I, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: like to sniff coke while playing No, no summertime, feel me.
Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. So during but during
Speaker 1: during your basketball years, so during the summer off season,
Speaker 1: you would play with the coke facts. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: mean at forty three, like, I don't even really I
Speaker 1: don't even really fuck with no hard drugs. Now you
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. But wow, I'm forty three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got so much shit out there. You got just
Speaker 1: fat and a ship like that high. So after fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes a high, is it worth Well? That's the thing
Speaker 1: about my liking is like, you got to keep doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like if you you don't have to, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna want to. No, right, because like you said, it
Speaker 1: doesn't last long. So if you do it and you're out,
Speaker 1: and you're out, you're having a night, You're gonna keep
Speaker 1: doing it. Facts. If it's around what year, how far
Speaker 1: into your career did you start fucking with coke? My
Speaker 1: son passed away in two thousand and six, so when
Speaker 1: you're in the Lakers. Yeah, do you think that that
Speaker 1: was a direct result of you dealing with the pain
Speaker 1: from losing your I don't know. I could have been.
Speaker 1: It just probably was. I just chose that time to party,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, made the wrong decision. That
Speaker 1: shit opened up a demon. Yeah, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I regret having to learn about myself in that way.
Speaker 1: I regret that I you know, that I had that
Speaker 1: strong urge of addiction that way you feel me. I'm
Speaker 1: such a hard I mean, that's something that you never
Speaker 1: get over either. Man losing a kid. Yeah, no, that's
Speaker 1: the opposite of our life cycle, right. We don't think
Speaker 1: that we're supposed to bury our children. Our children supposed
Speaker 1: to bury us exactly. Man's that's tough. That's definitely tough. Man.
Speaker 1: Have you ever because you know, obviously you've dealt with addiction.
Speaker 1: I know people who have done like ayahuasca retreats to
Speaker 1: try to like breakthrough. So I did. I did something
Speaker 1: that's something similar to that I did iber game. What's
Speaker 1: that It's a plant Medicine's supposed to be like the
Speaker 1: strongest psychedelic Yeah, psychedelic medicine. And I'm sorry. I did
Speaker 1: a lot of drugs in my life. And that ship
Speaker 1: was that shit was so strong. I was I was.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like and it was hitting me.
Speaker 1: I was like, God, please have this ship stop? Was
Speaker 1: everything visual? Yeah, I got to So, you know, plant
Speaker 1: medicine is really spiritual of course. Yeah. I know people
Speaker 1: who say that they're atheists and then they did d
Speaker 1: M T or they did ayahuasca, and now I believe
Speaker 1: in God because they're like so they say that the
Speaker 1: first vision that you're gonna see is probably like the
Speaker 1: closest person in your family. So over my eyes and
Speaker 1: I see my cousin Sierra, who I kind of like
Speaker 1: raised her. And I kept hearing my mother voice, my
Speaker 1: grandmother's voice, the women in my family, like my cousin.
Speaker 1: I kept hearing they voice and shit like that, and
Speaker 1: I got to see my son again. I got to
Speaker 1: see him like the age where he was, you know,
Speaker 1: he passed away, probably like the age like twelve or thirteen,
Speaker 1: and then like the age he would have been at
Speaker 1: that time. What that shit was, Tripper, Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the only time you did it. Yeah wow, it made
Speaker 1: me want to do it again. But that shit was
Speaker 1: so strong, I don't know if I want to even
Speaker 1: face those demons perve myself. Yeah, like what's the second time?
Speaker 1: Like if you saw if that's what happened the first time? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: know what? Every time I done shrooms, they never really
Speaker 1: like well, because you're a big dude man, So when
Speaker 1: you do, they never like really hit me or anything
Speaker 1: like that. I think it's because you just didn't eat enough,
Speaker 1: because you're you're a big guy. You gotta put them
Speaker 1: in like a milkshake or something. No not, I mean
Speaker 1: you could eat them. I have them in gummies. There's chocolate,
Speaker 1: they got gummies yeah yeah, or fire yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: you just gotta I love candy at shout out to
Speaker 1: the nerds. Yeah, no, you should fuck with some. I
Speaker 1: feel like psychedelics like low key for people who deal
Speaker 1: with addiction or just have like you know, shit, they
Speaker 1: need to work out. I feel like psychedelics is like
Speaker 1: the way to go man, and it's not addictive. It's
Speaker 1: a drug, but like, what is a drug. It's a
Speaker 1: drug according to the government. Yeah, whatever the fuck that means.
Speaker 1: Like you just said you used to get fined for
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Speaker 1: the name is? Hell, Yeah, and you have a pepsi here,
Speaker 1: not a guy. Very few people in this world are
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Speaker 1: from Jamaica, right, yeah? Making sure? I don't know where
Speaker 1: was at. I was out with Trogi p Henson one night.
Speaker 1: We go to some little spot a date. Yeah yeah, nice,
Speaker 1: what'd you think? I don't know nice? I see no stair.
Speaker 1: I had to pull up. I had to get a
Speaker 1: bottle of champagne. I got the opportunity to chop it up.
Speaker 1: When I see a Jones, me and a man one
Speaker 1: on one, that's amazing. And that night we was having
Speaker 1: dinner with Landers, Brad Pitt ForwArt with it. Come o
Speaker 1: er that night, my Duke, I got to see Prince
Speaker 1: Playter's Crib. What the fuck? So in the same night
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Speaker 1: called ghost Dog Fire. Uh Samurai, Yeah Forred Whittaker. He's
Speaker 1: like a black samurai. He like lives by the samurai
Speaker 1: code super Fire movie. With that being said, you saw
Speaker 1: Prince perform the same night at his house? Was nas
Speaker 1: at his house? Did you close the deal with Taraji
Speaker 1: p Henson that night? Was like you guys were together.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were with her, but look you
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Speaker 1: got in life. I've been to Elis when I was
Speaker 1: nineteen man, what about like back in the day before
Speaker 1: there's only fans, before there's I G chicks, there was
Speaker 1: like the chicks who would make it on like King magazine,
Speaker 1: right like the Glory of Aless what was that one girl?
Speaker 1: What's the rose now before her? Vita Gerra? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm guragu about that. I think because of who
Speaker 1: I because of who I am, where I live at,
Speaker 1: I have really access to everybody I was. I wasn't
Speaker 1: out like looking for somebody. Oh when I see him,
Speaker 1: if I bumped at it or whatever and I got
Speaker 1: to kick it to it, yeah whatever, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But I wasn't out like yo. If I
Speaker 1: see this one, I wasn't out, yo. Let me send
Speaker 1: this one the message through my manager of shit like that.
Speaker 1: I don't move like that, right, but some guys do that, right,
Speaker 1: they'll send like they'll send their guy to go have
Speaker 1: all the especially nowadays, you can't hit a girl up directly.
Speaker 1: You'll be on with the ig like that, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll just screenshot it every time I hit a girl.
Speaker 1: I when we're walking out verbiage, you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: and let me don't sound let me don't sound. Two
Speaker 1: thirsty or too aggressive because and get flipped. It definitely
Speaker 1: could get fliped. Hey tell me this. You've played with
Speaker 1: some great players, some amazing players. Who is your starting
Speaker 1: five teammates that you've played with throughout your career and
Speaker 1: and on the same team. No, no, no, throughout your
Speaker 1: whole career. You had to assemble a starting five. You're
Speaker 1: not on the team though, mm hm Grant, mm hmm,
Speaker 1: I am a soon, Kobe, of course, Lebron Pole. Wait wait,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about guys you played with your teammates, they're
Speaker 1: all play on the Lakers with all played with at
Speaker 1: one time throughout your career. And you played with that
Speaker 1: one time. It was all on my team one time.
Speaker 1: Lebron USA, Durant USA, Okay take the USA. Shout out, Kobe.
Speaker 1: Let's go through Miami, Kobe Dallas, Kobe Pal, Kobe Pal,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade, Yeah, Duck whisky fuck. Yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: great team. Kobe. You kind of well, you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: need a Kobe. You had Jason Kidd on that, Max,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade, Derkcardo. Oh, you had Vince on the Yeah,
Speaker 1: you put Vince over Jason Kidd. Yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: got time or not overall? Right, at that time, that's
Speaker 1: a hell of it. You play hard, that's all to say, though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you're the sixth man. Whatever you want to
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, that's crazy, that'd be that'd be a
Speaker 1: pretty wild Yo. What how crazy? Take me to the
Speaker 1: eighty two point game? Kobe night you were there eighty
Speaker 1: one or eighty one? Why do I say eighty eighty two?
Speaker 1: Is the amount of games that get played? The eighty
Speaker 1: one point game though against the Raptors, where he was
Speaker 1: just I mean a legendary night man. What was that
Speaker 1: was the reason why that coach it's not coaching anymore.
Speaker 1: Who was the coach? Sam Mitchell? Oh yeah, he's former
Speaker 1: the wolf back in the day. The whole time, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: double team, I wanted to play. He ain't even change
Speaker 1: the defense. He adn't change he ain't make no adjustment.
Speaker 1: Hm hm no, joon right, we just don't sit there
Speaker 1: and just let him just talk to your team. It's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Jalen Rose forever will be known as, I mean,
Speaker 1: an amazing guy, but also the guy who was guarding
Speaker 1: Kobe most of that game, gave him and we was
Speaker 1: down twenty five that game. Really, you know, it's crazy
Speaker 1: about that game, Like I don't seen Kobe like hit
Speaker 1: some like incredible shots shit that you can't imagine. And
Speaker 1: just that shit was just like basic Kobe in that game.
Speaker 1: Just well yeah, just well just basic. Everything was like
Speaker 1: well mostly two foot wasn't no one leg runners, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of fataways handing there, but it shit was
Speaker 1: just basic basketball. If you think about him, you always
Speaker 1: hear like people say, Kobe could could be difficult to
Speaker 1: play with because he held everyone extremely account Yeah he's
Speaker 1: you know, he's sick. Yeah, he's like a sick competitive guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't it was hard for him to
Speaker 1: get along with guys that you know, didn't want it
Speaker 1: as bad as he did. Right, You come from losing culture.
Speaker 1: You spent the year in Miami, decent team obviously with
Speaker 1: a young d Wade. You get to the Lakers, it's
Speaker 1: like Kobe have a chat with you, like a sh
Speaker 1: It's different now, No, But I knew Kobe before before
Speaker 1: the before we came into the league. Kind of was
Speaker 1: raised in the same au environment. So it came through
Speaker 1: up in the Adida circuit with Sonny with Carol, but
Speaker 1: playing with him is got to be different, right, because
Speaker 1: it's like yo, Yeah, but even before that he came
Speaker 1: to I remember I played against him in the NBA camp.
Speaker 1: The NBA had the best at top one hundred camp,
Speaker 1: and I remember in this true story, I remember he was.
Speaker 1: He came walking on we had at Princeton. I remember, Hm,
Speaker 1: I can't remember he came walking on on the campus.
Speaker 1: I remember we had on shades. This motherfucker had on.
Speaker 1: He had a briefcase with him. What was in the
Speaker 1: brief I don't know, homework, I don't know. But I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, motherfucker's seventeen years old, six
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. We got a briefcase with him. Like
Speaker 1: he just looked real serious, right, And do you feel
Speaker 1: like playing with him kind of helped make you kind
Speaker 1: of like force you to kind of grow up a
Speaker 1: little bit. No, It made me take my you know,
Speaker 1: my career. It made me Yeah, made me shoot for
Speaker 1: a championship. Yeah, you know, so practice at ten, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Eight practice over at twelve. I'm
Speaker 1: not leaving three every day, Damn you feel me? So, man,
Speaker 1: I could say he but see like he instilled that
Speaker 1: with me. He didn't have to say nothing. I got
Speaker 1: common sense. I'm like, this motherfucker's the bast motherfucking league.
Speaker 1: If this is what he doing to stay sharp, I
Speaker 1: think if I should, probably I could play. You know,
Speaker 1: I got the talent enough to hang out with him
Speaker 1: on my own. But if I just follow and take
Speaker 1: a little bit or what he doing, the habits the behave, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe some of that star that's a fall off on me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people have the talent, but it's
Speaker 1: the other ship. Always the other ship. Talently gonna take
Speaker 1: you so far. But but talent you could get off.
Speaker 1: But talent you can probably get away. You know, three
Speaker 1: to fifteen games, you get the talent, but if you
Speaker 1: want to forty fifty sixty games or the same ship
Speaker 1: being consistent, you're gonna have to work. Yeah. Yo, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this as somebody who has, like you
Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, obviously you struggle with addiction when
Speaker 1: you see guys who are former players that are in
Speaker 1: similar situations. I just saw. I'm trying to think, what's
Speaker 1: the name of the guy Delante west is? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I know Mark Cuban trying to help him out.
Speaker 1: He's still after that. Yeah, I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with Ben Gordon, but he seems to not be
Speaker 1: doing the greatest. But a lot of that ship is
Speaker 1: mental health. I didn't say to you, like I never
Speaker 1: really I ain't even really understood how mental health and
Speaker 1: using drugs is kind of like they all tied in
Speaker 1: to the same thing. Really, I never really understood that
Speaker 1: to like, you know about the age that I am now,
Speaker 1: But I think what shit is being truthful with yourself
Speaker 1: about you know, your situation mentally? Yep, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it takes like how they say it
Speaker 1: takes a village to raise a child, It takes you know,
Speaker 1: knowing who your friends are because a lot of us
Speaker 1: have enabled us around us, you know, especially a lot
Speaker 1: of these young black men and making a million dollars especial,
Speaker 1: anybody like that. Everybody just wants a piece, so they're
Speaker 1: not gonna nobody want to tell them, no, of course,
Speaker 1: not even if it's closer to your life. Because even
Speaker 1: if you get high and you get away with it
Speaker 1: that day, all that night, it's really closer to your life.
Speaker 1: You don't know it, right, what is the crazy you're
Speaker 1: really getting low? Yeah, man, Look, I think that that's everyone.
Speaker 1: If you're supplying livelihood for people, they're gonna look the
Speaker 1: other way if you're into some bullshit, because if you
Speaker 1: know how it is, if you're an addicts, the last
Speaker 1: thing you want to be told is the truth. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's a fact. What's the how
Speaker 1: crazy like drug use? WI is? What was like the
Speaker 1: craziest ship you've tried? Shit? Just I mean cocaine every
Speaker 1: which fall? Yeah, you feel me? So you've you smoked
Speaker 1: in this crack? Basically? Yeah? You know what's the difference
Speaker 1: because I'll be watching fucking snowfall. The high is the difference?
Speaker 1: Is it like that fire? What like smoking cracks? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because like man, people will literally give up everything to
Speaker 1: get more of it. It's got to be insane. And
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in like a good way, but
Speaker 1: the high has got to be crazy. It's intense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And for me, I'm gonna be honest with you, Like
Speaker 1: every drug that I did was always tied into sex too,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. So you would every which one, yeah, every
Speaker 1: which one? So when you were having sex, you obviously
Speaker 1: get the drugs involved. Always makes the sex better, Always
Speaker 1: addicted to sex addicted drugs the same way. Yeah, amen, sexist.
Speaker 1: I mean, look man, yeah, I feel me. Yeah. And
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Speaker 1: that that? You know, obviously you almost lost your life.
Speaker 1: It was very public. And think about that I did,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm admitting to you doing drugs you
Speaker 1: know in the hood that you would never do, right.
Speaker 1: I didn't do drugs that night, though, really, So what
Speaker 1: was was it? Were you on viag or some shit?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I was. I was going to have
Speaker 1: sex that night, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: was preparing that night because you had cardiac arress. Right,
Speaker 1: I had everything. Yeah, I was under I had twelve
Speaker 1: strokes and six heart attacks. Jesus, And so what what
Speaker 1: brought that? On? The drugs that they slipped me? I
Speaker 1: guess oh they slipped you some shit. Yeah, and as
Speaker 1: a you know, as a drug addict, I was like,
Speaker 1: I wish you had told me what it was, because
Speaker 1: that had to be some good ship to lay me
Speaker 1: down for three days? Right. I woke up. I couldn't
Speaker 1: walk or talk nothing. No, I remember, dude, it was scary. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the scariest part for me was not being
Speaker 1: able to talk. That's got to be frustrating. You can't communicate,
Speaker 1: you know, that's got to be crazy. He was extremely humbling.
Speaker 1: I mean, just thinking about it, I'm two time NBA champion,
Speaker 1: Lamar old them feel me. I'm laying and see the sign. No,
Speaker 1: I can't even hold my biweles my geeyeh. Nurses coming
Speaker 1: and changed me every three or four hours. Right, the man,
Speaker 1: do you feel like that it sometimes, cause you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up in a family with a lot of
Speaker 1: drug addicts very close to me, and I almost feel
Speaker 1: like you almost have to hit a certain rock bottom
Speaker 1: before you kind of get woken up a bit or
Speaker 1: really truly evaluate your ship. Do you feel like that?
Speaker 1: That was kind of like a But for me it
Speaker 1: was confusing because I'm like, damn, I don't even do
Speaker 1: drugs that night. But I think for me that ultimately
Speaker 1: was wound up being like to you know, it's those
Speaker 1: gas station dick pills man. The way I think that,
Speaker 1: I think that was the one that shit that made
Speaker 1: me like, yo, you know, you could lose your life.
Speaker 1: I got too much to lift for. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: lose your life. Just live in a certain way. Man.
Speaker 1: My daughter's twenty four. That's crazy. You got some grown
Speaker 1: ass children. Man, it's wild bro. You do, man, you do.
Speaker 1: It's been dope just to see kind of like the
Speaker 1: redemption story. Man, I saw the story. Uh, when you
Speaker 1: were down bad obviously, you know you had to auction
Speaker 1: your rings off and the guy came up to you
Speaker 1: at the Laker game and he just gave him back
Speaker 1: to you. Right, crazy because it's a fan that all
Speaker 1: them wrapped up right many thousands of times. And they
Speaker 1: seen me at your first Laker game and he was like,
Speaker 1: lamar got him. I'm like, God, what we're talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was like, I gotta get some ships fucking back
Speaker 1: where it belong. Like, what are you talking about? It's
Speaker 1: like the fucking rings, bro, I'm like, oh ship. He
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna, you know, give you a a
Speaker 1: day where you could come get him. I went back
Speaker 1: the next day. Hmm, I ain't take them off since
Speaker 1: that shit's amazing. And the fact that man that for nothing,
Speaker 1: he didn't ask for nothing because he paid good money
Speaker 1: for the rings, like I mean, they ended up selling
Speaker 1: for like a serious This is my man, France. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call him France. Shout out to him. Shout out
Speaker 1: to France. Solid fucking guy. Solid for sure for sure. Yo.
Speaker 1: Obviously Kobe meant a lot to you. His death is
Speaker 1: probably the most like traumatic, unexpected. I didn't know Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 1: I'm a basketball fan tho, you know, and that ship
Speaker 1: really fucked me up for you, man, you know, was
Speaker 1: Kobe always there for you even through the low times
Speaker 1: because you you obviously had a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of low Yeah, oh yeah, sure, I take a short
Speaker 1: fucking mhm. Maybe talking about being an addict, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I was playing right, I
Speaker 1: never like gambled like heavy like that. What else I doing?
Speaker 1: I'm out the NBA. Yeah, I'm not making the money
Speaker 1: I used to make. I fucking pick up a gambling addiction.
Speaker 1: The worst? How bad? Was it? Really bad? So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why I got bad, really bad? Cut
Speaker 1: that whole that that's a straight line, or because she
Speaker 1: lets you fuck who you thinking's gonna be all sweet
Speaker 1: like that all the time? There? Oh yes, I've been there.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like that's all sweet all time. Remember the
Speaker 1: first time I was like, well, maybe get into heavy,
Speaker 1: I was in. I was in flawed at the hard
Speaker 1: rock me and my man leaning free car us a Dad.
Speaker 1: I started for like no bullshit, like twenty five hundred.
Speaker 1: I ranted all the way up to like sixty K
Speaker 1: that night, And it's to me, it was no better
Speaker 1: feeling th going upstairs, taking your money, putting it into
Speaker 1: safe You're like, gosh, damn, that's all it takes one
Speaker 1: of those nights. Unleast it unleast the same deeming like
Speaker 1: that cocaine untleast man. So make a long story short,
Speaker 1: I'm in a hole like I can't get myself out
Speaker 1: of it. I'm I don't got the money to pay it. Hm,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, That's what I'm like, the
Speaker 1: fuck i'm'na do? So everybody know Kobe was like an
Speaker 1: extra frugal motherfucker. Right. Uh, I'm like, I'm know, I'm
Speaker 1: I think I might have to make the call this motherfuck.
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, I know, I'm i'm'a get cursed out.
Speaker 1: What the fuck do you doing? That? Low called him
Speaker 1: after he cursed me out? What the fuck you doing? Ll?
Speaker 1: So you'll just have your people call my people. So
Speaker 1: he got you at your gambling hall? Facts? How deep
Speaker 1: were you in? Really deep? Can you give us the
Speaker 1: number north of six figures? Yeah? So when you're in
Speaker 1: like a gambling hole, is that like you're using bookies
Speaker 1: or you like, no, I'm not, I'm using my money
Speaker 1: to get out. I don't want to use no booky
Speaker 1: or what was your game? Blank? Oh? Yeah? See Roulette?
Speaker 1: I love Herlette like Roulette love her. Let you know
Speaker 1: what's fucked up about roulette is you'll fucking get to
Speaker 1: a table and you'll see, Like you always think that
Speaker 1: there's a strategy to roulette, but there isn't. Now there's
Speaker 1: ways you could play it. Increase your chance to play
Speaker 1: roulette at in Vegas lets. I play roulette everywhere I go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Roulette and craps. But what I do is,
Speaker 1: I'll bet. You know how you could bet the outside
Speaker 1: the thirds, So I'll bet two of the thirds at
Speaker 1: the same time, and if one of those hits, I
Speaker 1: win because they pay two to one, you know, So
Speaker 1: if I put ten on each one and one of
Speaker 1: the two hits, I win ten dollars in profit. If
Speaker 1: I lose, I triple up that bet on two, and
Speaker 1: you keep tripling every time you lose, and then it's
Speaker 1: it's a strategy. It works, but it's also if you
Speaker 1: get on a losing streak, you're like, you could be
Speaker 1: fucking asked out nless, You're like, yeah, I love roulette though,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, So you discovered gambling. Gambling fucking gets to
Speaker 1: the point where your six figures in the hole, I
Speaker 1: ain't got nobody call it but Kobe right, and Kobe
Speaker 1: saves the day. The cheapest me and now I know
Speaker 1: probably wow, and like, that's not an easy call to make.
Speaker 1: Could be called one of the greatest players of all time.
Speaker 1: I got Prid, one of my closest friends, and ask
Speaker 1: him for some money. Did he make you pay it back?
Speaker 1: He was a great businessman, you know that. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you had to pay it back of course? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean you did pay it back of course. Nice and
Speaker 1: interest nah nah wow. Shout out to Kobe save the
Speaker 1: day man. That's crazy. Where like, like for you? Would
Speaker 1: you say that at his death? You know, because I
Speaker 1: think it was very like like I said, dude, just
Speaker 1: for America. It was right before the pandemic too. How
Speaker 1: did I mean just for you? Man? Like, how did
Speaker 1: it hit you? Where were you at when you found
Speaker 1: out about the news? I was in Atlanta. I was
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and I know the man. So I was
Speaker 1: told me plicopy cras. I was like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just jumped out land on his feet. Yeah. I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was that bad. The funny my man that
Speaker 1: I was with, he started throwing up. Wow, he don't
Speaker 1: even know Kobe. This this is what I'm thinking to myself.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, he's throwing up him, you know, being
Speaker 1: it's cooky. It's like one of those things that I
Speaker 1: think probably because the way it happened, they don't even
Speaker 1: really seem like real. It's the way to me, it's
Speaker 1: the way it happened because it was now accident and
Speaker 1: his daughter them. We know that he's not here right obviously,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Right, but it just don't
Speaker 1: really seem real, you know, it's it's it's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: It's definitely. Yeah. Like I said, man, as a basketball
Speaker 1: fan and I'm a Laker hater, I grew up rooting
Speaker 1: against Kobe and that ship. I was like, well, I've
Speaker 1: watched this dude my whole fucking childhood. Like I played
Speaker 1: this motherfucker like like like I didn't know him, but
Speaker 1: I felt like I knew him, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a big loss, man,
Speaker 1: definitely crazy. Hey which ring for you met the most?
Speaker 1: Which year twenty ten because it was the Celtics. M
Speaker 1: they fucking shook our bus two thousand and eight when
Speaker 1: they beat us about forty or whatever. Yeah, they won't
Speaker 1: even was leave the fucking arena. That would have been
Speaker 1: the year that you beat my Phoenix Sons in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference finals or no, that was No, I think
Speaker 1: you weren't on the team. I think that was twenty
Speaker 1: twelve the Lakers beat the Sons in the West. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I don't think you're on the team. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was. Yeah, that was uh that even
Speaker 1: though we did beat the Suns one year in the playliffs,
Speaker 1: I mean the Steve Nash, right, I mean we also
Speaker 1: beat y'all when you guys were those eighty three one
Speaker 1: the eight the eight seed days? What was up three
Speaker 1: one area? Yeah, in the first round and we came back.
Speaker 1: Who did Steve Nash? Tim Thomas at the tree, Tim,
Speaker 1: I was there, la, Yeah, I was, I was out,
Speaker 1: I was ore. Yeah, yo. Tim Thomas was also solid
Speaker 1: on the Clippers for a little bit. But Tim Thomas
Speaker 1: was fucking beasts. He made some big shots for us.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, no, I don't think he was on
Speaker 1: the Clippers. He he hit a shot against the Clippers though,
Speaker 1: in the playoffs US. Tim Thomas in high school was beast.
Speaker 1: He was the same size. That's crazy. How tall are
Speaker 1: you six ' ten? Yeah, he was the same size
Speaker 1: in high school. That's crazy. Now for you outside of yourself,
Speaker 1: who's the greatest six man of all time? Michael Cooper? Okay,
Speaker 1: then Jamal Crawford. Jamal Crawford, Man, I'll say Michael Cooper
Speaker 1: first because impact the game, right. If Jamal Crawford is
Speaker 1: off that night, then true, he was a he was
Speaker 1: a real like streaky guy, of course, but when he
Speaker 1: was on full put fifty up for everybody he played for.
Speaker 1: He played, he played for the Suns a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Put fifty. Well, he's tough though, yeah. And then and
Speaker 1: then do we put Lou Williams in there anywhere? Because Lousa,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best six minutes. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: day and age. Yeah, shout out to Lou. Yeah. What
Speaker 1: about shout out to Louver for living with two women? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got the the double girlfriend thing going. Could you
Speaker 1: ever do that? I wish I would have did, as
Speaker 1: long as an NBA would have been made more sense
Speaker 1: than anything else than lying. Mmmmm. I wasn't mature enough
Speaker 1: to do it. If I could have did it. I
Speaker 1: feel like if you're a woman who dates an NBA player,
Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of have to know what
Speaker 1: you're signing. Up for right, How about if you're a
Speaker 1: woman that dates a man. Mmmm, you want to get
Speaker 1: real with it? I can't get real with it. You're married, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to my wife, shout to white people. But now,
Speaker 1: but in terms of like, yo, if somebody's on the road, uh,
Speaker 1: forty one dates a year, right, one would expect millionaires
Speaker 1: traveling the planet would have some wild situations that are
Speaker 1: almost unavoidable as a man. But I was messing with
Speaker 1: one woman at the time when I was playing the NBA,
Speaker 1: and she said, the difference between me and you, Lamar,
Speaker 1: is that you entertained the ship like men. We walk
Speaker 1: outside with our men the oosit you h hand on
Speaker 1: our dick like I'm gonna get laid tonight. Yeah. Women,
Speaker 1: imagine if you imagine what women walked outside like that,
Speaker 1: And there's all something that do walk outside like that,
Speaker 1: but not stereotypically that's true? Was there was? It? Was
Speaker 1: it like did you guys know like certain chicks in
Speaker 1: certain cities that like just everybody kind of ran through
Speaker 1: like the like, because I I swear to God, bro
Speaker 1: I know four or five bitches in Phoenix, Arizona, Scott
Speaker 1: Steele and they fucked every NBA All Star imaginable. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, did you know? I mean, there's some
Speaker 1: women that make they sam available like that, but you
Speaker 1: know some of them are probably gonna get married to
Speaker 1: one of them one of the NBA playoffs. He ain't
Speaker 1: gonna know they're trying. Did you ever see guys beef
Speaker 1: out over chicks? Most NBA players. When you see an
Speaker 1: NBA dude and ay, like they beefing for no reason,
Speaker 1: like how do not get out of control? It's probably
Speaker 1: mostly over all the time over. Did you ever beef
Speaker 1: with anybody over a chick? Nah? Was there somebody who
Speaker 1: you had, like some actual like, Yo, I fucking don't
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Speaker 1: get back to the interview. I mean, sometimes competition could
Speaker 1: be that intense. So who did you like not fuck with,
Speaker 1: like when you were playing, not not personally, I just mean, like, yo,
Speaker 1: for example, I'm a fan. I can't funk with Pat
Speaker 1: Beverley because what he did to Chris Paul, you know,
Speaker 1: when he fucking hit him in the back a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Because I'm a Sun's fan. I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: who did you like? Who was like your phone? I
Speaker 1: ain't never really have no like like if it was
Speaker 1: you know, if it was you know, beef, it was
Speaker 1: just beef off of we respected each other like, I
Speaker 1: ain't like, I don't funk. I ain't never really have
Speaker 1: that type of who is dudes where I'm looking to
Speaker 1: take your head off, even like even a dudes from
Speaker 1: this let me see that. You gotta have a Celtics guy,
Speaker 1: huh Tony Allen maybe yeah, yeah, okay, but okay, okay.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying like, I don't funk with him. It's
Speaker 1: like more of a like on a court, of course,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I don't with him. I ain't
Speaker 1: like off the court because Tony Allen was, but like
Speaker 1: poor piss, I ain't like poor piss. Yeah you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If he was off the pick and roll,
Speaker 1: if I could trip him or something like that to
Speaker 1: make him let him fall off, I would do it.
Speaker 1: And he's still petty as hell. He lebron every time
Speaker 1: he gets a chance. Yeah yeah, Paul Pierce. You know
Speaker 1: he had to get Ray Allen and KG you know,
Speaker 1: you know What I mean when that happened was that
Speaker 1: was like the eighth nine season they win the first year,
Speaker 1: did you guys like because that was I know everybody
Speaker 1: talks about Lebron going to Miami, but to me, the
Speaker 1: real first like super team of that. They've been doing
Speaker 1: that ship well, they've been doing it, but I'm talking
Speaker 1: about that era when Ray Allen and KG went to
Speaker 1: the Celtics and won it. They went from worst team
Speaker 1: to the best team. Yeah, that's how it happens. When
Speaker 1: your team get better and the only one day players
Speaker 1: that hate on it make your team better. Motherfucker get
Speaker 1: in the gym. Yeah, but I'm saying when when when
Speaker 1: the Celtics formed that trio and obviously that Rondo is
Speaker 1: a rookie, but like that was great for basketball, was great,
Speaker 1: Like you guys were excited for it. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna always be one too. Yeah, look at Larry Bird Magic. No,
Speaker 1: we had Larry Bird, Michel Parish, they had Magic Worthy,
Speaker 1: Kareem right. Those was like, oh my god, they got
Speaker 1: a super team. Those are super teams for sure what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but it was expected. If you're the GM
Speaker 1: of the Lakers, how do you fix this year, or
Speaker 1: just fix the team in general. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of assets, seems to be. Roba lincould put together a
Speaker 1: pretty shitty roster. But you know it's another hearing r there.
Speaker 1: If you had his job, what would you do differently?
Speaker 1: It depends on what my goal was. If the goal
Speaker 1: was to win, like right now, if I had to
Speaker 1: win more games right right now, then you probably have
Speaker 1: to make a drastic change. Then the drastic change they
Speaker 1: probably would have to make. The Probably people wouldn't probably
Speaker 1: even be get into fathom what the draft to change
Speaker 1: would be. Here's how I traded in Lebron. So you
Speaker 1: would trade le Bron? I'm saying I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Would I wouldn't do it? But saying if I went
Speaker 1: to the gym, if my responsibility was to make the
Speaker 1: team better right now, how would that make it? I mean,
Speaker 1: as you have to because you have to get better players,
Speaker 1: and you can get two to three players right now,
Speaker 1: So why not trade a d? Oh, you can trade
Speaker 1: a d They gotta trade, I would think because from
Speaker 1: Lebron you probably would get more for him because he's Lebron.
Speaker 1: He's going to change the culture to your for your
Speaker 1: organization for the next two or three years. Maybe you haven't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's got a small one. I feel like
Speaker 1: a D. I think teams would probably be scared to
Speaker 1: take a D because he ain't played eighty two games
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. And you brought up trade Lebron.
Speaker 1: I would never trade Lebron personally. I called him gard James,
Speaker 1: Lebron or Jordan? Who's the wold? You Michael Jordan? I
Speaker 1: think you're wrong, but that's not here. They got me wrong.
Speaker 1: I love Jordan's up there. You Jordan's my favorite. You
Speaker 1: didn't get to see Michael Jordan. Of course as a child.
Speaker 1: I have his posters all over my wall. But I
Speaker 1: still just think Lebron's better. He's been doing that at
Speaker 1: a high level way longer than Jordan did. Think about it.
Speaker 1: The year that Jordan came back and played with the Wizards,
Speaker 1: by the way, he still was putting up buckets, almost
Speaker 1: took him to the playoffs. I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I just think I used it. I don't know. For
Speaker 1: people that watched basketball the last twenty thirty years and
Speaker 1: really got to see Michael Jordans, I just think that
Speaker 1: the reasons why Michael Jordan is great like Lebron just
Speaker 1: can't live up. Yeah, but you too, But you could
Speaker 1: say the same thing about Jordan. Jordan wasn't as great
Speaker 1: as a pastor as Lebron Jordan. Oh, he couldn't do
Speaker 1: some things better. But I just Michael Jordan. I mean,
Speaker 1: Lebron's in what year twenty? Yes, he's an amazing player.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Did you play? Just something about Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: is the fact did you play? You know? And you
Speaker 1: know what. It's the six rings, It's the killer, it's
Speaker 1: the killer instinct, the man. You just can't really compare
Speaker 1: players strictly basketball all time Lebron or Kobe Kobe Bryant
Speaker 1: for the same reason why I'm picking Michael Jordan. You're
Speaker 1: putting Kobe over Lebron. Yeah, I mean, he's your one
Speaker 1: game I'm talking about for one game. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the goat list here, Kobe Brant. You put Kobe over
Speaker 1: len Cobe Bryant. And the reason why I'm I'm picking
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's I mean Kobe Bryant because Michael Jordan's he's
Speaker 1: the set the ball. Yeah, and Kobe Bryant was the
Speaker 1: only one that was chasing Michael Jordan's greatness, and it
Speaker 1: was obvious. Yeah, I don't know man from his Walk
Speaker 1: from the Fade away? Did you his win? Did you?
Speaker 1: Motherfucker had eighty one points? You got when you got drafted.
Speaker 1: Jordan was already retired, right, but then he did. He
Speaker 1: come back to the Wizards while you were already in
Speaker 1: the league. I got to play against Mike one year
Speaker 1: one time, and I had food food poisoning, oh ship.
Speaker 1: So when I went on the court, I seen two Mikes.
Speaker 1: You really get to performance this when he was on
Speaker 1: the Wizards. Yeah, in DC. Yeah, I mean, it still
Speaker 1: had to be pretty cool to say it was cool,
Speaker 1: you got it. It was cool to meet him though.
Speaker 1: I met him the first time I met him in
Speaker 1: Phoenix Great Place, and Mike Tyson was in the club
Speaker 1: sounds about it that same night. He used to live there.
Speaker 1: I was in the club with Mike Tyson and Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: Phoenix got some incredible white women, though they got a
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Speaker 1: Does that have to do with their nipples or their toes?
Speaker 1: The feet? You know, my friend Conway, the machine, he
Speaker 1: calls white women. He said he likes dusty feet. He's
Speaker 1: out like dirty fielt white pitches, dirty foot, white bitch.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so you, by the way, a scenario
Speaker 1: in which you, Mike Tyson, and Michael Jordan are in
Speaker 1: the same nightclub. Let me tell you something. Yo. So
Speaker 1: I'm in the club with my name Marich Taylor, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, mo, well, I can't stop looking at
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. Hmm. I was like, I can't stop looking
Speaker 1: at this fuck Like It's like he was glowing like
Speaker 1: you ever seen when Chappelle said about Rick James, they
Speaker 1: had like seen his aura, yeah, coming off like I
Speaker 1: could really his presence was that strong. You know what's funny.
Speaker 1: I went to a Simba concert like a few months ago,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden behind me was Lebron James
Speaker 1: and his wife And that was the same way. I
Speaker 1: was just like, damn, he's with his wife bother him
Speaker 1: like ship. His presence was like it was like it
Speaker 1: was coming strong. Did you party with Mike Tyson it
Speaker 1: all that night. I feel like that would be a
Speaker 1: legendary hanging back in the day, Lamar odom, I feel
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Speaker 1: this podcast? You got to make that happen. It's out
Speaker 1: here and he's got his He's got the weed ship
Speaker 1: going crazy. He's gonna try to talk you into smoking
Speaker 1: the toad though, the toad that's his ship. That's that
Speaker 1: d MT. No, it's not his ship, d m T.
Speaker 1: What's it's the it's it's pretty much the active chemical
Speaker 1: that that ship is crazy. But that ship you almost
Speaker 1: you actually you have to freebase it. Yeah, So it's
Speaker 1: it's like it looks like you're smoking right up my alley,
Speaker 1: Right up my alley, psychedelic freebase. I'm with it. Oh man, yo, Lamar,
Speaker 1: tell me about the craziest night of your life. That
Speaker 1: was not the night we all know about where you
Speaker 1: almost lost your life. Give me like peak partying, Lamar.
Speaker 1: Is it a bunch of women? Are you having a foursome?
Speaker 1: Are you? What's going on? I think the craziest not Oh,
Speaker 1: I think Chloe. She came into this motherfucker hotel room
Speaker 1: at the Roosevelt Okay, you and Chloe. No, I was
Speaker 1: at the hotel room with some other women. Oh, she
Speaker 1: came in to tell them she started beating a bitch
Speaker 1: ass at the Roosevelt. So you're in the room with
Speaker 1: just one or I forgot how many women. It was
Speaker 1: more than one though for sure it's possibly could have
Speaker 1: been more one. So Chloe finds out you're there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fuck you know? I did though,
Speaker 1: because he's a woman. How you know which hotel? Because
Speaker 1: she she probably knows people, bro, she's Chloe Corodection. She
Speaker 1: probably you know, slipped the guy at the front desk.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, so you're cheating on Chloe. She
Speaker 1: shows up. What happens next, I don't know. She just
Speaker 1: started fucking the girl up Jesus at the rose of
Speaker 1: her hotel. I had to like get her off the girl.
Speaker 1: I'm starting, I'm thinking about this girl press charges right GMZ.
Speaker 1: But you know I got to got the got hed
Speaker 1: off the girl. Did you guys end up like the
Speaker 1: girl never went to the police freak out. Oh, she
Speaker 1: was a real one. I can't I wish I could
Speaker 1: remember who it was. Mm hmm, I can't remember how
Speaker 1: many times? Because you know, you and Chloe had a
Speaker 1: relationship that I think was we got to watch it
Speaker 1: on TV. People love y'all. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: People loved y'all together. Were you like I mean, like
Speaker 1: you obviously you cheated, but like, how many times you
Speaker 1: get caught cheating by Chloe too? That's not bad. She
Speaker 1: seems like a forgiving person. She is. She wiped my
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the interview. Is there a I
Speaker 1: feel like we always hear about people who who are
Speaker 1: inside of that family and how like it comes with
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure because obviously it's the most famous
Speaker 1: family in the world. You know what I'm saying? Is
Speaker 1: there any truth to that? Like, once you kind of
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Speaker 1: terms of like obviously you have a lot more eyes
Speaker 1: on you, But do you feel that pressure isn't like
Speaker 1: Palatable's pressure. But I'm an athlete, championship athlete. If anybody
Speaker 1: the hell of the pressure with me, Yeah, I didn't
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Speaker 1: was he was playing the music for me, his new
Speaker 1: new new ship for me when I was recovering. Damn,
Speaker 1: I fucked with him for that. Yeah. Yeah, Kanye seems
Speaker 1: I mean, he seems like a pretty misundertood guy. Man,
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite artists ever though. I got Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I got all his I mean, nas is my
Speaker 1: favorite MC. But in terms of this listography, yeah ya, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love yeah man. I think, Yeah, it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: I listen to some of his ship now I realize
Speaker 1: how good it is. What what do you remember what
Speaker 1: your album? He was playing you while you're in the hospital.
Speaker 1: What year was it? I could ribe tell you. It
Speaker 1: was two thousand and fifteen. Oh, it was the Life
Speaker 1: of Pablo, That's what I was just to say. I
Speaker 1: think it was the Life of Pablo. Yeah, cause that
Speaker 1: came out twenty sixteen. Yeah, that's fire shit, all the
Speaker 1: new shit. That that shit woke my soul up cause
Speaker 1: I was really dead at that time. I think that's
Speaker 1: why I like, I kind of like a lost Chloe
Speaker 1: because of my mind. I couldn't really expressed myself how
Speaker 1: I was feeling, m expressed my thoughts, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, after not being able to talk, shit
Speaker 1: took me a little while alone how to talk and
Speaker 1: walk again. That's crazy, man. I can only imagine you
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Speaker 1: not like even if you write something down, you ain't
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Speaker 1: That's crazy man. Well, look you've you've you've had a
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Speaker 1: it was helpful? I don't get high, that's great, man,
Speaker 1: I don't think about h as fast as I think
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Speaker 1: I think we all know, like we I think weed
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Speaker 1: Like show me that guy. Yeah, I've never smoked in
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Speaker 1: So you don't even think about cocaine anymore. That's good, man.
Speaker 1: I know I don't do you do meetings? Nah, I
Speaker 1: just stay close to God, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A little kedemene sessions, Yeah, pray on it. I think
Speaker 1: I understand the risk and reward you feel me, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: You know, uh properly, that ship is beneficial. But I
Speaker 1: think that's what any drug honestly, he said, maybe not crack.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nah, yeah, it's yeah, uh well cocaine.
Speaker 1: I don't think that could beneficial about cocaine. Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: who I gotta get on. Zach Randolph, oh ze Bo
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Speaker 1: wouldn't he won't stop. And he's like I don't think
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Speaker 1: How good he was it? So it was pound pound
Speaker 1: pound pound and he's gonna finish. Yeah, fess and pound
Speaker 1: pound pound even like back to the Blazers days. He
Speaker 1: was good an all game long too. He coming with
Speaker 1: it and whatever his team, whatever team he owned, his
Speaker 1: team is they like looking to go to him like
Speaker 1: he probably like the leader. Yeah yeah inflicsively, did you
Speaker 1: guys ever get high together like on weed? Because I
Speaker 1: know he's a big pot smoker. Nah a z rappers
Speaker 1: zo Be blowing down them them tree Well ship. He
Speaker 1: got hit in Sacramento with like five pounds of weed
Speaker 1: or something Montreal. Who else's up rappers traveling with pounds
Speaker 1: of weed or not? Rappers a role? Players want to
Speaker 1: be rappers. Rappers want to be players. It's always been there.
Speaker 1: Huh did you ever try to have a go at rapping?
Speaker 1: I got my sixteen on my podcast? I mean I
Speaker 1: saw the freestyle that you put out like that was
Speaker 1: viral like ten years ago. No, oh no, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: That was the high freestyle that was Yeah, but this
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Speaker 1: the lights camera action guy. Damn. Okay, so we the
Speaker 1: hardest player at the guard was Zach Off. What about uh,
Speaker 1: the dirtiest player. And I don't mean dirty in like
Speaker 1: a bad way. I mean, like, you know there's dirty players.
Speaker 1: No Zach Randolph, he was a good dirty Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: every every possession. What was it like guarding Tim Duncan.
Speaker 1: I've never really guarded Tim Duncan a lot. He probably
Speaker 1: played the center of power probably a lot. You were
Speaker 1: pretty much at the three four four three or four Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, power was guarded. Tim Duncan was a motherfucker though.
Speaker 1: He was so patient, took his time and also like
Speaker 1: no emotion right, like you know, you don't like I
Speaker 1: feel like he's not this time to do to react
Speaker 1: to ship talking or talk ship back. Now he talked ship,
Speaker 1: but just he just he talked ship differently and like, yeah, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: get your ass up, Get your ass up? What about that?
Speaker 1: What about the biggest the best trash talker in your
Speaker 1: career that you played against, probably be Gary Payton. But
Speaker 1: when when I came into the NBA, like talking trash
Speaker 1: like they kind of like took that out the game
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, but they don't really just gea
Speaker 1: motherfuckers and one you can't get into, like you know
Speaker 1: how Larry Bird and used to be in each other's
Speaker 1: face talking ship, talking crazy ship. I can't do that
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, well, look you got your podcast. Uh
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Speaker 1: What oh man, I will to be a fly on
Speaker 1: the wall in the nightclub that Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: and Lamar Odem I was fucking time. That's fucking crazy
Speaker 1: not to mention the night where you're hanging out with
Speaker 1: Prince while. Yeah, listen tomorrow. I'm your a legend, man.
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