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Speaker 1: Jenna is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 1: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Nick.

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Speaker 1: So in a few minutes we'll call him and Sifa

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Speaker 1: tellus why he's ghostinger and maybe get her a second date.

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Speaker 1: But first let's find out more about the date. Jenna,

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Speaker 1: how long has it been since you heard from Nick?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Well, we went on our date about a week ago,

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Speaker 3: and I did text some asterwards and we had it

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Speaker 3: so constant, so it's been about a week. I'm probably

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Speaker 3: being dramatic. I do understand that. But if you kind

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Speaker 3: of feel like I need closure after this because it

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Speaker 3: was such a good date, in my perspective.

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Speaker 4: You're not being dramatic.

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Speaker 3: It is never okay to go somebody and after a

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Speaker 3: week of sitting there second guessing yourself, Shoot, you need answers. Yes, okay.

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Speaker 3: So he and I we met at the Swine Bar,

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Speaker 3: he suggested, and I thought it was so nice and it.

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Speaker 5: Was like through romantic, you know.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those vibes that had kind of

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Speaker 3: like load lighting and sort of brick on the wall

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Speaker 3: holes and the cozy little like benches for us little

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Speaker 3: and talked for venues where they kind of wrote like

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Speaker 3: the specialty wines that I honestly just like the single

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Speaker 3: Fiona Auto.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of like one of those passes where

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Speaker 3: you know, so I was gonna ask, like, what notes

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Speaker 3: of line do you like? And I was just kind

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Speaker 3: of like great, I like great. Was he was funny,

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Speaker 3: He was very cute. He ordered very confidently, which I

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Speaker 3: really liked.

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Speaker 5: I kind of just like.

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Speaker 3: Followed his lee order for us a bottle, and I

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Speaker 3: mean we ended up talking for like two hours about

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Speaker 3: I mean all kind of felt like our childhood pets

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Speaker 3: and roommate situations that we've had that has been terrible.

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Speaker 3: And we talked about, you know, places we want to travel,

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Speaker 3: just like all those kind of deep, nice things, which

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Speaker 3: is so great. And he was very funny, kind of

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Speaker 3: so it made me feel very relaxed because I was

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Speaker 5: It was a really great day.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the night we were outside

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Speaker 3: and he did kiss me, which was so great. It

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Speaker 5: And I just I don't know, I kind of walked.

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Speaker 3: Away feeling like you know, most guys on a date,

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Speaker 3: they just really talk at you, and I just feel

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Speaker 3: like he like talked with me and it was so nice.

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Speaker 3: So he was like no man explaining or anything. So

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Speaker 3: but of course, like replaying it back in my head,

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Speaker 3: this awkward thing happened that I'm just like has to

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Speaker 3: be the reason I'm getting ghosted. So for some reason,

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Speaker 3: I felt a why I did this. For like the

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Speaker 3: majority of the date, I kept calling him Rick.

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Speaker 5: What was his name again?

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Speaker 3: And his name is Nick, And I called him Rick

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Speaker 3: like several times. He was so polite, and he did

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Speaker 3: it wasn't like super long into the date. And he

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Speaker 3: of course I was mortified, and he was like he

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Speaker 3: played it off like it's not a problem, you know,

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Speaker 3: and and it's kind of funny. Became like an inside

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Speaker 3: oh Rick, you know, oh Rick and all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff. Soap.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like maybe that's three that I'm getting ghosted,

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Speaker 3: Like maybe he took offense to it.

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Speaker 5: And he was just trying to be nice. He did

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Speaker 5: choose to kiss me, but if he did a week afterwards,

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Speaker 5: and I did send him like a playful text afterwards

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Speaker 5: and kind of called him Rick in the text and

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Speaker 5: was like, you know, it's kind of like so nice

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Speaker 5: like the how to be the thing that pushed him

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Speaker 3: But I do need closure because it was a really

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Speaker 3: good date from my perspective.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever ghosted somebody after kissing them on a date.

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Speaker 4: I always find that so strange.

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Speaker 1: As far as like a pity kiss kind of you know.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, they want to kiss, like they're

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Speaker 5: It's like, might as well, why did I?

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Speaker 2: Well, I got clarity.

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Speaker 1: Kisses mean nothing or you're into it, and then you

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Speaker 1: like yeah, no, yeah, I didn't have to do that.

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Speaker 1: Jenna is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by

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Speaker 1: a guy named Nick. So we're about to call him

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Speaker 1: and see if I tell us why he's ghosting her

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Speaker 1: and maybe get her a second date. But before we

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Speaker 1: do that, Jenna, why don't you break down your date

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Speaker 1: with Nick again for.

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Speaker 4: Us real quick?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I went on a date with Nick. He

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Speaker 3: was really great to a wine bar, had an amazing time,

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Speaker 3: and we shared a kiss at the end of the night.

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Speaker 3: But he did let me know awkwardly halfway through the

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Speaker 3: date that I kept calling him Rick on us and

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Speaker 3: I put a Nick. It became mid inside Joe and

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Speaker 3: it felt fine. But now, a week later after him

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Speaker 3: ghosting me, I'm wondering a bit just because I call

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Speaker 3: him by the wrong name and she was offended.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, are you ready to see if that

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Speaker 1: is the reason he's ghosting you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Here we call him Rick too. Yeah, maybe we should.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call him right now. Here we go. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 4: I mespeak to Nick. Please, this is him?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Nick, how are you?

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Speaker 4: This is a radio show. It's called The Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Nick, I'm Nina, I'm Victoria and my name is Jewbel.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Wow? Did you said the radio? Yes? Have you you

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Speaker 4: ever heard of the Jewel Show before?

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Speaker 5: I have?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Cool, Well, this is a segment we do on the

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Speaker 1: show called a first date follow up. That's where if

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Speaker 1: you go out on a date with somebody and you

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Speaker 1: end up ghosting them, they can email us to give

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Speaker 1: you a call and ask why you're ghosting. So we

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Speaker 1: got an email about you from somebody. Oh boy, any

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Speaker 1: idea who might be emailing us to get hold of you?

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Speaker 4: Was it Jenna by any chance? Jenna?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is Jenna.

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Speaker 4: You got it right.

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Speaker 1: She told us about your date, says she liked you

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Speaker 1: a lot, but you can't figure out why you're ghosting

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Speaker 1: or would you mind telling us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very weird. She she moved the meats around.

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Speaker 2: She kept moving the meats around.

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Speaker 4: Giving the meats around.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean the chacuter reboard we ordered one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was very weird.

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Speaker 1: So she was just shuffling the meat around on the

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Speaker 1: security board, moving the meat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was almost like a little O.

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Speaker 2: Like she organized the crackers by size the meat so

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Speaker 4: It was it just it seemed very controlling to me.

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Speaker 1: So it was more than just like she was putting

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Speaker 1: you think it's a control thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it just seemed a little much.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she thought she was looking out for you.

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Speaker 4: You just didn't feel that. I did not. I just

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Speaker 4: I just I've seen how these things go. This was

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Speaker 4: just not a good sign. Wait, you've been in this

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Speaker 4: sit like this before, you know, with women.

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Speaker 2: Not Now. She's gorgeous, let me tell you, gorgeous, but

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Speaker 2: it just seems a little intense for me.

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Speaker 5: She's gorgeous, moves the meats, but she's intent.

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Speaker 1: You're worrying she's controlling because she wouldn't stop moving the

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Speaker 1: meat around on your charcuterie board.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like you took the words right out of my mouth. There, Oh,

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Speaker 4: thank you, that's exactly what I was thinking.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey man, thank you for being honest with us.

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Speaker 1: Now I'll let you know that Jenna is actually on

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Speaker 1: the phone and would like to talk to you. Are

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Speaker 1: you seriously Yeah, Jenna, Okay.

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Speaker 5: You ghosted me. We're a charcutery board.

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Speaker 3: That is very odd behavior.

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Speaker 2: It is not just a charcuteri board. This is what it's.

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Speaker 2: It's what it leads to, it's it's what it means.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean what it means?

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Speaker 3: It was just chaos and I was trying to like

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Speaker 5: And it's pairings that makes no sense to me.

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Speaker 2: It starts with the Arcuterie board, and then it leads

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Speaker 2: to just our lives. Like I'm just telling you. That's

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Speaker 4: It was just.

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Speaker 5: Leads, nick Nick. I lined up crackers. I didn't stealing

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Speaker 5: your social Security number.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you said I was one of the most beautiful

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Speaker 3: people you've ever seen and gone out with. And because

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Speaker 2: Life like you are very gorgeous, and that must lead

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Speaker 2: to you being so very meticulous and you know, very

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Speaker 2: well put together, because I mean, that's proof.

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Speaker 4: But it just starts there worse and you're welcome for that.

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Speaker 3: I look beautiful because I'm meticulous. We enjoyed the Arcuterie

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Speaker 3: board because I'm meticulous. So what the big thing is

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Speaker 3: for me is that you just disappeared instead of using

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Speaker 3: your words like an adult man should do.

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Speaker 4: Exhibit A right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean you said that we enjoy the securitiery board

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Speaker 4: I was just very uncomfortable. I was very confused.

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Speaker 2: You're already trying to control my feelings, and I am

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Speaker 2: a man myself.

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Speaker 4: I have my own opinions, and I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to control your feelings. You know what

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Speaker 5: you need?

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Speaker 3: You actually need therapy. You need to go to therapy

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Speaker 3: and talk this out with somebody, because you clearly have

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Speaker 3: emotional issues and you're emotionally allergic to organization, I.

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Speaker 2: Guess, and just like that, you think because of the

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Speaker 2: secrudery board, I don't agree that I need therapy.

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Speaker 4: You see how that sounds.

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Speaker 2: Is that your automatic, you know, result to everybody in

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Speaker 2: your life that they need therapy if they don't agree

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying everyone needs therapy that doesn't agree

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Speaker 3: with me. I'm saying you in particular need therapy. If

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Speaker 3: you go on to day with a beautiful, incredible woman

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Speaker 3: that you self proclaimed that I am beautiful. You were

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Speaker 3: the one that initiated the kiss, and then all of

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Speaker 3: and elevate the experience back to me.

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Speaker 5: Is a you problem and you need to go to

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Speaker 5: therapy for that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Hot women, I swear that it's the same crazy

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Speaker 2: thing that happens.

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Speaker 4: We're just so crazy.

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Speaker 3: We're just so crazy. You love when we take time

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Speaker 3: to look good and to show up and do all

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Speaker 3: that stuff for you, and go to your fancy wine

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Speaker 3: places and do all this stuff, and then I'm there.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I do not want to date someone.

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Speaker 1: I was just about to ask Nick, would you like

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Speaker 1: another date with Jenna? Will pay for it?

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Speaker 2: No, I really need to start looking for different women.

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Speaker 2: I can't do this, you know what.

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Speaker 3: And that's fine. Good luck finding anyone else who's willing

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Speaker 3: to move you or me. Because I foresee that you're

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Speaker 3: probably going to be touching your tallamie by yourself for

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Speaker 3: a while.

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Speaker 5: I don't worry about that. I'll go find somebody out.

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Speaker 5: Thanks you, you will first date fall up