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Speaker 3: It is week two of the twenty twenty four NFL

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Speaker 3: season and we are live from the Cowboys Club at

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Speaker 3: Star in Frisco. Welcome to Cowboys Crosstalk. I'm Bobby Belt

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Speaker 3: of one O five through the Fan. Tonight we've got

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Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Bag also joined

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Speaker 3: as always buy three time Super Bowl champion and six

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Speaker 3: time Pro Bowler.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton and our Cowboys legend.

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Speaker 3: This evening is I was gonna say full back, but

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Speaker 3: that's not That doesn't capture it the right way. I

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Speaker 3: don't think weapon Swiss army Knight, all around, uh, all around.

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Speaker 3: Stud Timmy Newsome joins us here tonight. Timmy, thanks for

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Speaker 3: joining us.

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Speaker 4: Wonderful to you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Yea, I'm gonna have to uh, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 3: be a little honest. I'm gonna have to own up

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Speaker 3: to my eavesdropping. While I was sitting here prepping, Nate,

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Speaker 3: I heard you were you were telling Timmy what a

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Speaker 3: big influence he was when you were watching him growing up,

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Speaker 3: and what a player he was.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just he was. He was everything. And when

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Speaker 5: you get here. Uh.

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Speaker 6: One thing I liked about these cowboys that when I

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Speaker 6: got here, they were all gentlemen. They treated you with respect,

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Speaker 6: and if you wanted help, they were always available to

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Speaker 6: help you. Yeah, that's one thing I can say about

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Speaker 6: these guys. Even Randy White, the mass up at all times,

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Speaker 6: he never took it personally. He hugs me every time

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Speaker 6: he sees me.

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Speaker 7: When you were growing up, yeah, yeah, college then right,

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Speaker 7: I grew.

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Speaker 5: It without about six months.

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Speaker 3: So Timmy, you know it's uh, we're about to use

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Speaker 3: the term fullback. And like I said, I adjusted a little, Uh,

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Speaker 3: went for for weapon instead. But uh, you know something

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Speaker 3: where there was a time a little bit ago where

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Speaker 3: people it seemed like we were thinking the full back

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Speaker 3: position was was kind of on its last legs, might

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Speaker 3: be dying a little bit. And it's made a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a comeback in recent years. San Francisco has

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Speaker 3: gotten a lot of use out of Kyle hughescheck the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys here, uh have used the full back pretty consistently.

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Speaker 3: Hunter Lifkey is a guy that they're really excited about.

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Speaker 3: Is it Does it gratify you a little bit to

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Speaker 3: see that, all right, people are recognizing the value of

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Speaker 3: this position again.

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Speaker 4: It does.

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Speaker 8: I think the thing that it gives teams is that

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Speaker 8: that fullback that can block into backfield can catch the

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Speaker 8: football and run it every now and then. So it's

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Speaker 8: a very utility kind of a position and I think

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Speaker 8: it's much needed and it helps in past protection as well.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about how, you know, we wanted to

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Speaker 3: come in here discuss a little bit kind of your trajectory.

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Speaker 3: So you had started playing college football at Winston Salem

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Speaker 3: State University. You were a sixth round picking the nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty Droft. Just talk about your first recollection coming in

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Speaker 3: just over even twenty years there, but coming in here

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Speaker 3: playing for Tom Landry and joining the Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I was not a fullback in college.

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Speaker 8: I was a tailback, and so I didn't block a

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Speaker 8: thought I was going to back up telling the doorset

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Speaker 8: that didn't happen because Landry didn't want it to happen,

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Speaker 8: and so they moved me to fullback and that's where

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Speaker 3: What was that transition like for you in terms of

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Speaker 8: The hard part was getting used to the blocking culture

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Speaker 8: and once I was able to do that, then I

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Speaker 8: other part was running. It's a very patient kind of

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Speaker 8: a hurry. You have to be very patient and once

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Speaker 8: you see the crease, you have to take it and

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Speaker 8: move the pile.

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Speaker 6: So you went from in high school from cornerback safety

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Speaker 6: to a running back. So did that end of that

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Speaker 4: It did. It helped me a lot.

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Speaker 8: So, you know, going from one to the other enabled

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Speaker 8: me to have that, you know, kind of gladiator mentality

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Speaker 7: Did you feel like you had to bulk up?

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what I did when I was in college.

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Speaker 8: I entered Winston Salem State University of one hundred and

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Speaker 8: eighty pounds and I left it two forty and ran

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Speaker 8: a four or five forty No way, Yes, yes, well

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Speaker 8: how'd you do that?

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Speaker 5: Ate a lot a lot of weights?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's such a when we talk about the

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Speaker 3: fullback position, the Cowboys have such a deep history at

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Speaker 3: the position. In terms of it, you just look at

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Speaker 3: the guy that you came in here and replaced, the

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Speaker 3: late Robert Newhouse, who is one of the you know,

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Speaker 3: famous for the giant the by paths that were just massive.

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Speaker 3: And then after you obviously came in Darryl moose Johnston.

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Speaker 3: When you got here, how much did you lean potentially

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Speaker 3: on Robert Newhouse to to kind of show you the

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Speaker 3: little bit more of like a competitive nature to it,

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Speaker 3: of like, okay, we're more competitors than we are guys

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Speaker 4: Not at all. I'll tell you a quick story.

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Speaker 8: I was struggling at fullback my second year and Robert

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Speaker 8: looked at me one day in the cafeteria. He says, look,

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Speaker 8: if you keep playing like that, you're going to cause

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Speaker 8: time for me to go, he said. So he said,

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Speaker 8: you how to take my job. And I thought he

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Speaker 8: was joking. He said, no, I'm serious, come to the

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Speaker 8: taught me how to block. He said, to look, when

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Speaker 8: you block, you run through the guy. Just like you

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Speaker 8: run the football, he said, you keep your feet moving

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Speaker 8: things that you have to do to be successful. And

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Speaker 8: that's exactly what I was able to do because of

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Speaker 8: his advice. So he was a wonderful person, a wonderful teammate,

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Speaker 3: Nicky, and your time covering the National Football League, have

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Speaker 3: you known a lot of guys whose thought processes come

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Speaker 1: I'm going to show you how to take.

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Speaker 7: I got a feeling that has faded away. No one

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Speaker 7: wants to help anybody take their job anymore. You know

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Speaker 7: that the money is too important.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely, this is It's kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: Reminds me of a I know a story you told

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Speaker 3: late last year while we were doing this, Nate, was

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Speaker 3: about the the late Larry Allen, who you had mentioned

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Speaker 3: that the first time you saw him on the practice field,

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Speaker 3: your first thought was, goodness, I hope this guy doesn't

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Speaker 5: Because he was special.

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Speaker 6: And you you saw how he moved into power and

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Speaker 5: I have never seen a big man move like that.

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Speaker 6: And uh, I reached so touch to BG, I said,

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Speaker 6: somebody about to lose their job.

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Speaker 5: I think I better get to wait down.

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Speaker 7: And well, whose job did he take?

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Speaker 5: I think somebody got hurt, somebody left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first first job he took was it was Eric.

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Speaker 3: When Eric got hurt, Eric will.

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Speaker 5: Somebody got hurt and he moved a right tackle.

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Speaker 6: And then the next year I think Kevin Gogan left

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Speaker 6: and yeah, so Gogan left and boom, right, god was

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Speaker 6: his job And I was like, yes, yes, yes, so

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Speaker 6: that that was.

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Speaker 7: That was the year Eric got in the in the

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Speaker 4: The first year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right before the right before the Bengals

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Speaker 7: Because he came in as a guard and it's like

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Speaker 7: out of necessity he had to play tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yes, had to play tackle, and then had the the

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Speaker 3: ankle injury that made it tough in the ninety four

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Speaker 3: u NFC title game there. So, Timmy, you know when

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Speaker 3: we talk about the fullback position, I know we'll hear

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Speaker 3: maybe a mobile quarterback is something that ooh that's.

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Speaker 1: A big benefit. Nate, you can maybe speak to this.

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Speaker 3: I've heard offensive lineman talk about sometimes having a mobile

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Speaker 3: guy back there is not as helpful as you think

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Speaker 3: because you think you've blocked somebody out of the way

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Speaker 3: or done your job, and then the guy's running right

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Speaker 3: into it and he's he's kind of getting out of

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Speaker 3: the pike. Is there any sort of like do you

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Speaker 3: have to have a feel like when you're blocking for

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Speaker 3: Tony Dorset and you're kind of lead blocking, do you

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Speaker 3: type of runner he is? There's just more Hey, here's

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Speaker 3: to be, and Tony's going to take care of things

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Speaker 3: behind that.

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Speaker 8: Well, the time, I would always block from the inside out,

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Speaker 8: So I would always take the inside shoulder of the

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Speaker 8: guy I was blocking and pushing him out because Tony

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Speaker 8: was a very good inside runner, and so I always

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Speaker 8: protected the most dangerous place that that defender could be,

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Speaker 8: and normally that was on my outside shoulder in his inside.

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Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 3: Is it something where you get feedback from guys like

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Speaker 3: Tony or the backs that are behind you, they say, hey,

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Speaker 3: can you change this up or could I have you

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Speaker 3: do this a little bit? Like are you guys in

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Speaker 3: communication with things like that?

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Speaker 8: No, it's prescripted during the week, and we practiced it

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Speaker 8: during the practice times, and so once we do that,

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Speaker 8: when we go into games and it's pretty much as

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Speaker 8: was previously scheduled to perform and do it in a

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Speaker 8: way that kind of makes sense to everybody. There's certain

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Speaker 8: improvisations that happened, but as a whole, we stick to

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Speaker 7: So with the Cowboys trying to institute the full back

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Speaker 1: Was there any Was there ever a moment where it's like,

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Speaker 8: His stare was the way he complained to you community.

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Speaker 7: What about you, Nate?

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Speaker 6: When I first got there, I was pretty quiet my

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Speaker 5: I'll be like, oh, my god, I'm going all right.

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Speaker 3: The transition that you went through here now into a

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Speaker 1: Su former Super Bowl champ and Pro bowler Newton Nate Newton.

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Speaker 3: is former Cowboys fullback Swiss army knife, all around offensive

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Speaker 3: weapon here, Timmy Newsom, Timmy, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you being here tonight.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about, you know, kind of

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's I think you hear a lot of different guys

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Speaker 3: Did you experience anything like that any sort of I mean,

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Speaker 3: I wish back in that day.

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Speaker 4: And so that's what I did.

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Speaker 6: believe it or not that I failed miserably. He put

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Speaker 5: Because I had a lot of shortcomings, you know. And

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Speaker 6: But it has always been things in place for guys

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Speaker 7: I think between what the Cowboys have done, what the

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Speaker 6: I got a job for you during the off season.

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Speaker 6: after their rookie year. They started working on.

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Speaker 7: Now, not to make you sound old, but there was

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Speaker 7: a computer science program in college to take.

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Speaker 4: Yes we were there.

446
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Speaker 7: It was one did we have computers?

447
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Speaker 5: Well?

448
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Speaker 4: Yes, how big were the computers?

449
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Speaker 8: Well, to be honest, there was this IBM key punch

450
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Speaker 8: twenty nine machine. So we used punch cars my first

451
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Speaker 8: year in nineteen seventy six, and then in nineteen seventy

452
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Speaker 8: seven seventy eight we went to this kind of little

453
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Speaker 8: terminal and there was this big mainframe in rollin North

454
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Speaker 8: Carolina that we tapped into and we would have these

455
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Speaker 8: printed reports.

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Speaker 7: Really, yes, So what got you interested in that in

457
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Speaker 7: the first place?

458
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Speaker 4: Well, I thought I was going to quit football.

459
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Speaker 3: Really was a Was that a thing where you just

460
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Speaker 3: you didn't have the You were curious about how sustainable

461
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Speaker 3: that was as a career.

462
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Speaker 1: Was it a What came about from that?

463
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Speaker 8: Well, playing at a small school, the coach is also

464
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Speaker 8: taught health and physical education, Right, so I figured, if

465
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Speaker 8: I'm going to quit football, I can't necessarily be taught

466
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Speaker 8: by the coaches.

467
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Speaker 4: That I quit put football. It just didn't feel.

468
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Speaker 5: Good, right.

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Speaker 6: You try to understand now, he was coming from defensive back. Yeah,

470
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Speaker 6: I heard your story a couple of weeks ago. He's like, man,

471
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Speaker 6: I ain't running no ball, I'm playing. He was a

472
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Speaker 6: shutdown corner. He was an all world cornerback.

473
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Speaker 3: Do you wish Do you wish you would have gotten

474
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Speaker 3: to stay on that defensive side of the ball or

475
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Speaker 3: regladuated the flip.

476
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Speaker 4: In hindsight, I'm glad they made the flip.

477
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Speaker 8: But the reason that I switched my major was because

478
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Speaker 8: I was disappointed that I wasn't playing corner.

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow, So I didn't think I was going to

480
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Speaker 4: play football very long.

481
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Speaker 8: So I'm in the registration line and in those days,

482
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Speaker 8: it took an hour and a half two hours to register,

483
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Speaker 8: And there was a guy in front of me who

484
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Speaker 8: told me about the business program in computer science, and

485
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Speaker 8: I said, hmm, that seems pretty nice, And so I

486
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Speaker 8: switched my major before I got to the registration desk

487
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Speaker 8: and stayed in it.

488
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Speaker 4: Loved it.

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Speaker 8: We had about two hundred and fifty students when I

490
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Speaker 8: started as a freshman. They were only like ten of

491
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Speaker 8: us left four years later in that program. So what

492
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Speaker 8: does a lot of your your work focus on today? Like, like,

493
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Speaker 8: what is the If you're just going to kind of

494
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Speaker 8: explain it to the general masses, how would you explain

495
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Speaker 8: the work that you do today? Well, the more technical

496
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Speaker 8: term is I'm a managed service provider specializing in unified

497
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Speaker 8: communications and collaborations products and services.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I know what that's Okay, I don't know. I

499
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Speaker 5: don't know what that means. But what are you doing

500
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Speaker 5: for real? Man?

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Speaker 10: You do?

502
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Speaker 8: But I still do a lot of computer programming. I

503
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Speaker 8: love computer programming, so I develop applications for businesses.

504
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Speaker 5: Okay, man, very cool. Now you went right over all

505
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Speaker 5: our This is a.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's funny when he was talking about registration

507
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Speaker 7: and you got no idea about it. When we were

508
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Speaker 7: in college and had to get classes, we had to

509
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Speaker 7: physically go through this room and pick cards yes of

510
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Speaker 7: a folder and say we want this class, and I

511
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Speaker 7: hope it.

512
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Speaker 5: Wasn't already full.

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Speaker 6: That's right, because then you had to go to because

514
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Speaker 6: then that cloud set cards what hours you want, and

515
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Speaker 6: you got. If you athlete, you got to try to

516
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Speaker 6: get it around to practice time. So if you get

517
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Speaker 6: there too late, in this card is my class is full?

518
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Speaker 6: But I do have a six o'clock Well we we

519
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Speaker 6: we're meetings sore. We just coming from practice at six o'clock.

520
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Speaker 6: Oh you're a football player. That was a strike against

521
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Speaker 6: It was it was.

522
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Speaker 7: A traumatic experience. Yeah, I remember, I hadn't thought about

523
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Speaker 7: that in ages.

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Speaker 3: You know, Timmy, did you find uh, did you find

525
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Speaker 3: that when you transitioned over to your business career then

526
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Speaker 3: after football? Did you find like it was tough? Like

527
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Speaker 3: some players will talk about this. I hear where they

528
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Speaker 3: say it's tough to turn off the competitiveness, it's tough

529
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Speaker 3: to turn off the football player the first few years,

530
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Speaker 3: Like you don't feel totally comfortable or did you feel like, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to move on to this part of my

532
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Speaker 3: life now.

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Speaker 5: You know, since I was.

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Speaker 8: Doing it while I was playing every all season, the

535
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Speaker 8: transition was not as difficult. The problem came when I

536
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 8: was doing it full time and I was missing football

537
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 8: enough to where I felt like I needed to be

538
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Speaker 8: doing something athletic. Yeah, that's the part I had to

539
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Speaker 8: get out of my system, and that took a few years.

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Speaker 3: What would you say to I think in this era,

541
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Speaker 3: you know, we've got the nil era now in college football,

542
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Speaker 3: and you're getting a lot of guys who are making

543
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Speaker 3: a lot of money before they even get to the

544
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Speaker 3: NFL now, and a lot of people who are probably

545
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Speaker 3: feeling a little comfortable. And I don't need to I

546
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: don't even need to go to class right now, I

547
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Speaker 3: don't need to worry about this.

548
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Speaker 1: What would your.

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Speaker 3: Advice be to somebody who is going to the centil

550
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Speaker 3: air in terms of how you think they should treat

551
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Speaker 3: this time in school, Like, would you say, hey, you know,

552
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: don't don't get too comfortable thinking that this will always

553
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Speaker 3: be there for you, because that can disappear quickly.

554
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Speaker 8: Well, there's a business side to earning that money while

555
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Speaker 8: you're in college, and the college is there to get

556
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Speaker 8: an education, so you can make yourself a little bit

557
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Speaker 8: more available to understanding the nuances of trying to manage

558
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Speaker 8: that money. And that's what college is going to do

559
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Speaker 8: for a lot of these athletes, and it's going to

560
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Speaker 8: enable them to provide for their families a lot sooner.

561
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Speaker 8: But however, they've got to still create an environment where

562
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Speaker 8: they can intelligently manage the resources that they get.

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Speaker 4: Early on, Hold on.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, let me stop you right now, what y'all

565
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Speaker 6: just heard is thirty percent of the students athlete.

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Speaker 5: I'm that other half that's gonna blow every I'm yeah,

567
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Speaker 5: he's that.

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Speaker 7: You're buying teachers for everybody.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to pot cowboy baby house full of girls.

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Speaker 1: You're the seventy percent. That has Tom Behyden, I got you.

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Speaker 3: When we come back here on Cowboys Cross Sock, let's

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the Cowboys Week one victory

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Speaker 3: or the Cleveland Browns and maybe some other takeaways from

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Speaker 3: across the NFL. Along with Timmy News and we have

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton and Mickey smag No. That's next on the

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Speaker 3: s WBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

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Speaker 3: Crosstalk Bobby Belt from one five through fan I'm joined

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Speaker 3: by Mickey Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, former Cowboys

588
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: offensive lineman Nate Newton and our Cowboys legend this evening

589
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Speaker 3: and the sharpest man I think I've ever seen in

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Speaker 3: a mock turtleneck, Timmy, This way all right, so the

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00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: Cowboys we did get a a finally an NFL game,

592
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Speaker 3: and a manute it felt like, I know, we were

593
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Speaker 3: talking about this last week and ate the idea of

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Speaker 3: you know, boy, is it exciting where we're here for

595
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Speaker 3: the NFL season. When they kicked off, it was like, man,

596
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: this feels like about a year and a half since

597
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: they left the field against Screen Bay just forever, and

598
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Speaker 3: it was it was well worth it. We get a

599
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Speaker 3: lot of news, we get Dak Prescott's sign and his

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00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: extension on Sunday morning or a green to terms on

601
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: it anyway, and then the Cowboys go out there and

602
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: take care of business against the Cleveland Browns. Timmy, I

603
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: know you got a chance to watch again kind of

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Speaker 3: your just general thoughts, general takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Watching that first game, you know, I was.

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Speaker 8: Very much surprised to see how well the defense played

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Speaker 8: against Cleveland's offense. And then of course the offense played

608
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Speaker 8: well against Cleveland's defense in the sense that they were

609
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Speaker 8: able to score early and often. But the thing that's

610
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Speaker 8: most impressive to me is the special teams of the

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Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys. The kicker, the punter, the kick returner, all

612
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Speaker 8: of those guys they play at a very high level,

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Speaker 8: and that's going to put a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 8: opposing teams going forward.

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Speaker 7: Could you have to play special team? Oh?

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Speaker 8: Yes, play I play kickoff return, punt coverage, punt return.

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Speaker 4: I was even as a defensive back on punt return.

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Speaker 7: Really, Oh yes, what about you?

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Speaker 5: I play kickoff return, field goal, extra point. All right,

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Speaker 5: so when you yeah, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Just kind of go around real quick before we get

622
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Speaker 3: into more specifics about the game. The thoughts on the

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Speaker 3: new kickoff, which I'm excited about because it's going to

624
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Speaker 3: give you more kick returns, which is something we've heard

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Speaker 3: or saw the numbers this week we did get more

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Speaker 3: kick returns. I'm also, I think going to be immensely

627
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Speaker 3: frustrated trying to remember what exactly the rule is each

628
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Speaker 3: time I see the ball kicked and where it lands

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Speaker 3: and where it ends up going. But it looks like

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Speaker 3: early on the Cowboys bones Fossil his approach, at least

631
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Speaker 3: in this game, he wanted to see, all right, let's

632
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Speaker 3: bounce it a little se if you can take advantage

633
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Speaker 3: of Brandon Aubrey, see you know what we get in

634
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Speaker 3: terms of coverage, how much we want to bounce it

635
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Speaker 3: get it out of the end zone versus just kick

636
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Speaker 3: it out of the end So just a little bit

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Speaker 3: of experimenting, but overall just kind of go around here. Timmy,

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Speaker 3: what were your thoughts on the new kickoff role and

639
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Speaker 3: how it impacted the game?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I like the structure of it.

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Speaker 8: I think it's going to increase the number of opportunities

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Speaker 8: for the kickoff return team to score once they get

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Speaker 8: used to it, once they figure out how to manipulate

644
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Speaker 8: it and use it to their advantage. I think everybody's

645
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Speaker 8: going to settle down and use it in a way

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Speaker 8: that's going.

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Speaker 5: To make sense. Nate, what did you think, move it?

648
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Speaker 5: Take the kicker and move it back ten more yards.

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Speaker 1: That's Belichick.

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Speaker 6: Belichick said, if you want more turns, both move it

651
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Speaker 6: back ten more yards. And the strong legged kickers, well,

652
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Speaker 6: well well you can see the value of your stronger

653
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 6: legged kickers. But those that can't kick, and they're more

654
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Speaker 6: directional kickers, more precise, precision kickers. Now they can hit

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Speaker 6: it in these sweet spots and make you know, Because

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Speaker 6: is it a rule where you can but on that

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Speaker 6: as long as you're on that line, behind that line

658
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 6: or on that line, you can move that ball anywhere

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Speaker 6: you want. If I'm them, I'm kicking this thing from here,

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Speaker 6: cross the field over that way. I will put it

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Speaker 6: in a corner on the one and see what you

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Speaker 6: can do.

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Speaker 5: With Yeah, just use it to your advantage. But just

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00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 5: sit up and kick. Are we gonna kick it?

665
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 6: You can put it on the two yard he gonna

666
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 6: kick it still in the end zone, Come on, man,

667
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 6: make it.

668
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 7: Well when he gets jacked up, that's what happens, right. Yeah,

669
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 7: when he when they were trying to practice it in

670
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 7: preseason and it was like, okay, I want you to

671
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 7: land it between the five and the goal line, he

672
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 7: got all excited and he kicked it halfway through the

673
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 7: end zone. I think they need to put the touchback

674
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 7: back bring it out to the thirty five yard line, Yeah,

675
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 7: because otherwise, when they get a good kick returner back there,

676
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 7: why take the chance. I'm just gonna kick it through

677
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 7: the end zone now what they did on the one. Uh,

678
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 7: it's it's difficult to ask the kicker to hit a

679
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 7: line drive. Let it bounce inside that twenty yard line

680
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 7: and then roll and if the guy doesn't get to it,

681
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 7: then you get the ball at the twenty. You get

682
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 7: the ball the twenty yard line, and that's what he did.

683
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 7: I was asking Bones about it, and I said, so,

684
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 7: how difficult is that for the kicker to be able

685
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 7: to execute that? He goes, It's really hard. You got

686
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 7: to have a really talented kicker. Well, if you're thinking,

687
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 7: he grew up Aubrey grew up as a soccer player,

688
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 7: and they were used to placing the ball, not just

689
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 7: kicking it as far as you can, So that's something

690
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 7: that they can develop. The other thing I noticed, Bobby,

691
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 7: it was that everybody was wondering who was going to

692
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 7: do the reto.

693
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: Well, you knew Turpin was going to.

694
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Speaker 7: Do it right, And then in training camp they had

695
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 7: Deuce back there and they had other guys that could run.

696
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 7: But I was thinking, if you can anticipate where they're

697
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 7: going to kick the ball, I'm putting Turpin there, and

698
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 7: I want to put a guy that can block back there.

699
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 7: And if you noticed in the game, they had jan

700
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 7: Ye Thomas and he was a kick returner by the

701
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 7: way at Georgia Tech. But he's big enough as a

702
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 7: safety to be able to go and you get an

703
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 7: extra blocker instead of having two return guys. So I

704
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 7: thought that was interesting that he kind of manipulated it

705
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 7: that way.

706
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of it.

707
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: There's a big advantage of the Cowboys having there's special

708
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: teams and these kind of things in general, because you know,

709
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: Aubrey is such a strong legged kicker and he's a

710
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: real weapon for you. And then on the other flip

711
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: side of it, you know, Cavante Turpin is one of

712
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: the more electric returning guys.

713
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: In the league.

714
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: And then you've got the guy who's kind of masterminding

715
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: orchestrating at all is Bones Fossil, who is one of

716
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: the bigger, uh, you know, special teams gurus that we

717
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: have in the NFL. Today, one more special teams question

718
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: for you. Were you, like me kind of selfishly internally

719
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: looking and say, please kick the seventy one yarder?

720
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to think.

721
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: I know it was probably reckless, but kicking the seventy

722
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 3: one yarder.

723
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: I was standing next to.

724
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: Some Cleveland Beat reporters Mick when they were lining up

725
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: for right yeah, and they were I heard them talking,

726
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: They're going, there's no way you can make this. Why

727
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: why would you even fake like you're lining up for this?

728
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: And I was like, please, Mike, McCarthy kick this, Oh,

729
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: Cleveland can see he could do it.

730
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: They need to learn about Brandon Apa.

731
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 5: But you re hooping to it.

732
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: I I was hoping that they go ahead and just

733
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: try it.

734
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: What did they have to lose?

735
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: I would absolutely have it now.

736
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 7: And the Browns blew it because they put the return

737
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 7: guy back in the end zone.

738
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, totally totally ruined the set up there, all right, Timmy.

739
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: So uh watching the second half of game, I think

740
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: if there was one criticism I half of this game,

741
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: which is they really dominant performance overall for the Cowboys

742
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: again that second half, it's like you never got the

743
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: finish them off drive. If you want to just want

744
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: just all you needed really was one extended scoring drive

745
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: that probably would have put it away and made you

746
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 3: feel comfortable to go ahead and say, all right, let's

747
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 3: wrap this thing up today.

748
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: Never really got that.

749
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: You think that's just all right, that's first game rust

750
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: or maybe you're trying some things out, or just credit

751
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: to that's a really good Cleveland defense that made some

752
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: adjustments in the second half and was able to take

753
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: some things away.

754
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 9: Well.

755
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 8: I mean, let's face it, Cleveland had the third best

756
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 8: defense in the National Football League a year ago, so

757
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 8: they weren't chop liver, and so they came out that

758
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 8: third quarter, Dallas got a little bit conservative, and then

759
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 8: of course Cleveland was able to respond to those tough

760
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 8: situations and Dallas had to punt the football and change

761
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 8: a possession. But you know, you know, that's football, and

762
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 8: so hopefully in the future those things can be corrected.

763
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: I saw some numbers.

764
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: We've talked so much about the passing game, of the

765
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: passing game, the passing game, how that's the modern NFL.

766
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: Now this week there were only two passers that threw

767
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: for three hundred yards. It's the fewest that's done that

768
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: in Week one since two thousand and five. You had

769
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: seven guys that ran for one hundred yards. You had

770
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: more guys that ran for one hundred and twenty yards

771
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: this week than caught one hundred twenty receiving yards this week.

772
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: The efficiency, the per play efficiency, some of the metrics

773
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: said running the ball was more efficient this week than

774
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: it was to pass the ball, which that has never

775
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: been the case over the last decade of the NFL.

776
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: Do you think the running game is making a little

777
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 3: bit of a comeback, and if so, is Dallas equipped

778
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: to play the game that way this year.

779
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 8: Well, I certainly hope so, because the thing that's I

780
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 8: think going to be important is when you have a

781
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 8: special team kicker like we have, they can keep the

782
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 8: chains moving and the runner can protect the football a

783
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 8: little bit better and they not do more riskier things

784
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 8: in terms of trying to move the ball down the field.

785
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 8: So hopefully as the season progresses, they're running football a

786
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 8: little bit more. Rather third and eight, you're running run

787
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 8: or draw is something that nature, So yes, I think

788
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 8: that's going to vastly improve.

789
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 7: Do you think these coaches have figured out that without

790
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 7: enough work in in the offseason, they're they're limited to

791
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 7: what they can do, especially from an offensive.

792
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Line standpoint, in contact with the players.

793
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 7: They're limited in training camp and you're not playing guys

794
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 7: in preseason games. Is it easier to develop a running

795
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 7: game maybe than a passing game?

796
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: Was more efficient?

797
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 5: Right now?

798
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: When you don't know who your players are, we didn't

799
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 6: have CDN. You know, you don't know who your players are.

800
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 6: You're trying to jail. The most safe any should wait

801
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 6: is to run the ball. You know, uh, you know,

802
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 6: back in the old days, they said when you pass

803
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 6: two things can happen versus you know, when you just

804
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 6: hand the ball off, maybe one. So most coaches saying,

805
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 6: let's keep this game tight. You know, let's keep it tight,

806
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 6: eespecially if you have a defense. Let's keep this game

807
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 6: tight and let our defense help us win and play

808
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 6: field position if you have.

809
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 5: The punter and the pawnters to do it. That's what

810
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 5: the Cowboys did. Now what happened in the second half is, uh.

811
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 6: You got steal two rookie guys on the offensive line

812
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 6: that you still trying to work into this deal. So

813
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 6: it should get better as the season go on. Everybody,

814
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 6: don't don't get a chance.

815
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 5: To be to Carolina Panthers the first game. It just

816
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 5: don't happen.

817
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know they'll be taking on the team

818
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: that was lulled by the Panthers' nate really quickly. I

819
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: know we talked about the Tyler gut and Cooper Baby,

820
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: the young guys having seven overall, what did you think

821
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: of the line play, but more specifically those two young.

822
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 5: Guys quickly the left tackles gotta get technique. I try

823
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: to preach it all training camp.

824
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 6: I'm screaming technique, technique, technique, and uh, because he has

825
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 6: a long enough arm and has the quickest the quickest

826
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 6: feet in the world. Just use it to your advantage.

827
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 6: Quit leaning, g get and I'm coached to Lari is

828
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 6: doing that this in this past week on BB he

829
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 6: was more of a helper this week. Here he's gonna

830
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 6: have overs and unders. That's where God gonna be lined

831
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 6: up on him.

832
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 5: Now.

833
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 6: He had a few times where he went one on

834
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 6: one with guys, but he had an opportunity to step

835
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 6: to them and help, and then they will come to him.

836
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 6: This time, he'll they'll be lined up on his head,

837
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 6: so he'll get a full dose of a different look.

838
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 6: But every time a rookie gets through a game that's

839
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 6: a win without something major bad happening. They both got

840
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 6: through this game and now they's get a chance to

841
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 6: look at himsel it's like, oh, okay.

842
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 5: This is what I really need to work on, Timmy.

843
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: You know, this was the return of Ezekiel l Ed

844
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 3: which a lot of that is questions about, you know, Okay,

845
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: how much does he have left? How quick is he

846
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: has it? A big part of what the Cowboys talked

847
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: about is, hey, he's gonna be a big thing for us.

848
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: In the passing game because of the way that he's

849
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: able to chip help the tackles and the blitz pick

850
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: up stuff. There's one specifically in this game where I

851
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: know Zeke had had blocked something up where if he's

852
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: not there to to really take that, Dak is getting

853
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 3: absolutely destroyed.

854
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, how big a part of that was that

855
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: for you in terms of your game?

856
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: But like the blitz pick up and how important is

857
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 3: that aspect of the job and the technique that goes

858
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 3: into being able to take on that just straight bull

859
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: rush almost that's coming at you.

860
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 8: Well, it's vitally important, especially if an offensive lineman is

861
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 8: having some problems.

862
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: You know, Miles Garrett didn't do a lot of damage on.

863
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, survived it, and the guy the running backs,

864
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 8: they chipped him a little bit to help the uh uh.

865
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: Tackle to prevent him from getting that quick escape.

866
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 8: So it's going to be pivotaal to see if they

867
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 8: can continue to do that and also get into the

868
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 8: passing routes.

869
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: When we come back, Let's talk a little bit about

870
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: this UH finish up to tighten up some things from

871
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: the Cleveland game and look ahead to the New Orleans

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Speaker 3: by Mickey Spagnola from Dascowboys dot com, three time Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl Champion, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton, and our

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Speaker 3: Cowboys legend this evening former Cowboys fullback Timmy Newsom.

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Speaker 1: Timmy again, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Cleaning things up just a little bit before we heading

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Speaker 3: to New Orleans or heading to Dallas the eighteen T

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Speaker 3: Stadium for this first game against New Orleans. Anything from

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Speaker 3: the Browns game that you say, hey before you get

891
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Speaker 3: back home this week, Let's try to clean this up.

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Speaker 3: But let's let's make sure that this is a little

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Speaker 3: tighter as as we head into this game.

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Speaker 8: Well, obviously the third quarter was very somewhat of a lull,

895
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Speaker 8: and I think if they can figure out how to

896
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Speaker 8: settle that and increase the number of third down conversions,

897
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Speaker 8: then I think that would be helpful because that's fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's the thing that they didn't do very well, the

899
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Speaker 8: third down conversion.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if they can get one. Yeah, they went oh

901
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Speaker 7: for five in the second half.

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Speaker 3: It was forty nine yards of offense in the second

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Speaker 3: half for the Dallas Cowboys, So.

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Speaker 5: They've got to be able to convert on third down.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully.

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Speaker 3: Things a little bit citter for you in your experience,

907
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: how much were you working things out quote unquote, like

908
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Speaker 3: knocking off rus early in the season. Did you feel generally, hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty prepared week one or did you feel like

910
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Speaker 3: it took a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of the guy play almost six three season games. Yeah, yeah,

912
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Speaker 5: knocking off.

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Speaker 6: I came it was still playing five and it's barely

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Speaker 6: breaking it down for five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little bit of a different air

916
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Speaker 1: to that.

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Speaker 3: When you watch that, did you see a team that

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Speaker 3: looked rusty, that needs Repstell or is it just how

919
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Speaker 3: do you look at some of those struggles.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, the Cleveland coach was asked that in

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Speaker 8: his press conference about guys not playing in the preseason

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Speaker 8: and did that have an effect on what they did Sunday,

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Speaker 8: And he kind of dispelled it and said, no, that's

924
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Speaker 8: not it. We just didn't come out ready to play, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 8: And so I do think it's an impediment not to

926
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Speaker 8: play in the preseason. It's a very huge gamble, uh

927
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Speaker 8: to do it, but not to do it, then you

928
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Speaker 8: get whatever you strive for when you don't play in

929
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Speaker 8: the preseason, to get that rust off before that first

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Speaker 8: preseason game, and the team that manages that the best

931
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Speaker 8: are normally the team that's going to win that first

932
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Speaker 8: few get those first few games coming out of the blocks.

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Speaker 7: You know, when I think helped the Cowboys the most,

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Speaker 7: they played those guys in the scrimmage against the Rams. Yeah,

935
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Speaker 7: and they had two scrimmages and it's it's a more

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Speaker 7: controlled environment than actual games, but they played first against first.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I thought that really helped the Cowboys out a lot,

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Speaker 7: and they should do that more often because if you're

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Speaker 7: not gonna play anybody in three preseason games. You at

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Speaker 7: some point you got to play football, right when you

942
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Speaker 7: when you first got there. That that was five preseason

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Speaker 7: games that year because you went to London, right.

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Speaker 5: Did you play in every one of them? Yeah? We

945
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Speaker 5: played it.

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Speaker 6: We got you we got a series the first time.

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Speaker 6: Then we the first game, we got got a series.

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Speaker 6: In the next game, you get two series. In the

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Speaker 6: third game, you play all the way into the middle

950
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Speaker 6: of the third depending on how you playing. And then

951
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Speaker 6: the fourth game you just played just a little bit.

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Speaker 6: And then that that you know, a by the fifth game,

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Speaker 6: you just he was ready.

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Speaker 3: You know last week this game that the Panthers and

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Speaker 3: the same played. You watch this and you saw two

956
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Speaker 3: guys I think who looked rejuvenated. Derek Carr looked as

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Speaker 3: good as he's looked in years, to be honest. I

958
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 3: mean a couple of those throws. The first big touchdown

959
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Speaker 3: throw he had the game was beautiful, just with the

960
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Speaker 3: pressure coming in his face and the throw that he

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Speaker 3: made down. And then Alvin Kamara, who has had his

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Speaker 3: struggles the last couple of years, has not run nearly efficiently,

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Speaker 3: and I think people wonder man that physical running style

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Speaker 3: is he's starting to break down a little bit. He

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Speaker 3: looked really good in this game and looked really efficient.

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Speaker 3: Any concerns heading into this one for you guys for

967
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys defense, which one of those is more concerning

968
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Speaker 3: to you Derek Carr and what he's able to do

969
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Speaker 3: with Chris olave or or Alvin Kamara in that Saints

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Speaker 3: run game.

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Speaker 4: I would be concerned about Derek Carr.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He's a very streaky quarterback.

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Speaker 8: But if he's on, he's on, and he can throw

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Speaker 8: precision passes in a hurry, and so that's gonna be key.

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Speaker 8: The problem that New Orleans has is that there's a

977
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Speaker 8: hurricane growing in that part of the country, and so

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Speaker 8: they're going to have to revise their practices in some ways.

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Speaker 4: That's going to affect that preparation.

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Speaker 7: They already did today. They practiced earlier. Allen, the head coach,

981
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Speaker 7: basically was gonna keep all the coaches at the facility

982
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Speaker 7: and said, we're sleeping here. They don't want to take

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Speaker 7: a chance of going home and not getting back, and

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Speaker 7: they were going to adjust their practice schedule for tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: But they were worried about getting everybody to the facility

986
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Speaker 7: and it wasn't so much the wind and everything. It

987
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 7: was New Orleans will flood if they get that much rain,

988
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 7: right yep, and so you may not be able to

989
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Speaker 7: get back to the facility.

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00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: Understand this it they run.

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Speaker 6: Everybody know the zone run. Well, this is what I

992
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 6: was trying to say, Isaiah stand back today.

993
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 5: They don't run. They run a short.

994
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Speaker 6: Zone where he's trying to make a cut off of

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Speaker 6: the center or the backside guard, and they run one

996
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Speaker 6: where they're trying to get out to the tackle before

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Speaker 6: they make that cut.

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Speaker 5: Well, when they run that short.

999
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Speaker 6: Zone, I'm worried about what our middle gonna look like,

1000
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Speaker 6: you know, because they'll double the center, they'll double the

1001
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Speaker 6: nose and then they'll slip up to the linebacker. But

1002
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Speaker 6: it's but you'll go about four yards before they'll make

1003
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Speaker 6: that move. Alvin Kamar, he got that pack down. He

1004
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Speaker 6: has had a nice offseason. The only thing that happened

1005
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Speaker 6: to Alvin Kamara is he sat having too much fun

1006
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Speaker 6: during the off season and it cost him the last

1007
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Speaker 6: few years. He's finally set up back in he's ready

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Speaker 6: to run. They got two nice run backs. I can't

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Speaker 6: think number twenty one name. They got two nice running

1010
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Speaker 6: backs and number seven the quarterback slash legit guy.

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Speaker 5: So Williams, I am so worried that our older guys,

1012
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Speaker 5: Joe's up and the other guy, Jordan.

1013
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Speaker 6: I'm hoping they up to the task, and I'm hoping

1014
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Speaker 6: that Mazie wakes up and realize that that is not

1015
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Speaker 6: gonna be a nice slip because they're gonna run with

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Speaker 6: you two or three yards.

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Speaker 5: So that short zone, that loan zone, got me worried.

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Speaker 1: Maror' is the guy who is punishing.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys feel like I mean, you guys had

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Speaker 3: such a dominant run game and then obviously you know

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Speaker 3: the run game that you guys have door set and

1022
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Speaker 3: you leading for that. How much did you feel like, Man,

1023
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Speaker 3: if we can establish our ground game, if we can

1024
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Speaker 3: physically over prob these guys, we're just gonna take their will.

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Speaker 3: Because you'll hear defenders talk about that a lot when

1026
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Speaker 3: you're getting run on and run on and run and that.

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Speaker 1: Can be one of the most depleting.

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Speaker 5: Detroit.

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Speaker 8: Well, the thing is it's been Dallas's Achilles Hill for

1030
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Speaker 8: the past couple of years and not being able to

1031
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Speaker 8: stop the run. So if I'm New Orleans, I'm gonna

1032
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Speaker 8: come out trying to establish the run early, knowing that

1033
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Speaker 8: you've got a really good quarterback that can have precision

1034
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Speaker 8: passes downfield. And so that's what I think they're going

1035
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Speaker 8: to end up doing.

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Speaker 4: Big key.

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Speaker 1: Then this week night is that overshowing in Kendricks playing

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Speaker 1: like they did in week.

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Speaker 5: They don't have to.

1040
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Speaker 6: But more important, the middle of our defense. You know,

1041
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Speaker 6: we want to not call these names.

1042
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Speaker 5: We don't want to say Mazie has to play.

1043
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Speaker 6: If you look at if you look at the Saints

1044
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Speaker 6: defense there there inside, guys are very very active. They're

1045
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 6: moving there, they're eating up blocks to the point where

1046
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 6: you can see them holding the guard in the center.

1047
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Speaker 6: You got to be that guy. And I said it

1048
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Speaker 6: last week and I'll said again this week. He got

1049
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 6: twenty five snaps, twenty three snaps. He did an okay job.

1050
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Speaker 6: Your job is not to beat the man. Your job

1051
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 6: is to make the man. And the man was overshown

1052
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Speaker 6: and Kendricks because you did your job. Continue to do

1053
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Speaker 6: your job.

1054
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Speaker 7: My pet, peeve, this whole training camp is they gotta

1055
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Speaker 7: be able to stop the running. There is five and

1056
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Speaker 7: losses on the road last year.

1057
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Speaker 5: They gotta get the music and they gave up too

1058
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Speaker 5: much to run.

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Speaker 1: It's a big part of it now, Timson, thank you

1060
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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy got the Cowboys winning?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, absolutely so for Timmy days of them.

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton at Mickey Spagnola, I'm by Velp. This has

1064
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Speaker 3: been Cowboys Cross Talk. Will talk to you guys again

1065
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Speaker 3: next week.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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