1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for your coming back. Part two is underway. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Do you do anything in particular to help you get 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: into character when you play a role. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends on the character. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 4: It depends on where I need to go to find 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 4: this person's experience, to understand their mentality, to figure out 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 4: their trauma, or figure out their greatest passion. So whatever 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 4: research that is. And sometimes it's it's researching a person 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 4: as a character study. Sometimes it's researching personality types or 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 4: you know, whatever it may be. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just you know, because. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: You know your role, you was like really tough, you 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: like guys, you were like and so I mean I 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: read that, you know, to help you get into this 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: character you abstained. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: Well I was upstaining already. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: For you to play that. 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 4: Well, yes, yes, I actually had just decided to become 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: celibate and have been celibant for months at that time 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: with my ex husband, and I decided to become a 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: celibant before him, and then when we got together could 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: to find out he was celibate. 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: And then I got this movie and I was like, well, I. 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: Know exactly what she's doing right now is I'm literally 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 4: living this So yeah, wow, yeah, I know it's crazy. 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: It's crazy, the love you knowing. 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: What you doing? He dies? Now you do Anchorman will fail? 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Could you do those jokes now? 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: Which was. 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: I mean the same jokes that you told like come 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: black jokes? Yeah, I mean the comedy you know. 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: Like, oh, comedy shifted quite a bit. 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 35 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: People have gotten very very sensitive. 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 37 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's a it's you know, to me, 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: most of it. 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: I understand. 40 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: I understand some of it, but I also feel that 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: it's taken away so much of the artistry and the 42 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: things that we laugh about amongst ourselves at home. 43 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: Anyways. 44 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: It's kind of it's just gotten very very sensitive for me, 45 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: which I think is unfortunate because it takes away a 46 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: lot of the art. And comedy is art, it is 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: it's a very specific kind of gift. And I think 48 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: the best version of that is when you're talking about 49 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: real things, you know, and so yeah, exactly exactly so 50 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 4: to me, stuff in Akerman was funny as hell, you know, 51 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: but I noticed some people was offensive. I am very 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: inappropriate and you know, me and my sister laugh and 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: stuff that it's just wrong. We should not be laughing 54 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: at Maybe, I don't know, so I enjoy inappropriate comedy. 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: And you know, you've kind of done a lot of 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: different acting. Was there a particular genre that when you 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: were growing up says I kind of want to do this. 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: I want to do drama. No, I kind of want 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: to do comedy. Not I kind of want to do 60 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: a horror knock comedy, whether any particular genre or you 61 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: just says like, hey, I can do it all. 62 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm wide ranging, so hey. 63 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: Let me try a little bit of both. But I 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: do love horror movies, really, thrillers. 65 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: I've been in a lot of them. Really, I just 66 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: you know, I'll be looking at this. I'm like, but 67 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: How'm a die on this one? It's gonna be but. 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: One miss call? 69 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I just love them. I think that 70 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: growing up, one of the things that really made me 71 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: want to be an actress was the little girl who 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: played Jamie and the Michael Myers movie Okay and me 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 4: and her about the same age. I think she's about 74 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: a year older than me, And I just thought, does 75 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: nobody else realize this little girl is really acting? Like 76 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: if you go back and watch it now, her performance 77 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: stands up and it's unfortunate. 78 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 3: There's that there's not an award for that because she 79 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: acted her ass off. 80 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: But it's interesting because survival is one of the highest 81 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: things that we can feel and experience outside of love, 82 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: you know. And I think that figuring out, you know, 83 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: how a character is going to survive and all the 84 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: different things that you go through as you are in 85 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: a space of just literally trying to make it, I 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: think really interesting. 87 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: And I just kind of love that world. 88 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: And I like to be scared, and I like the 89 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: inappropriate things, as I said, And so yeah, I think 90 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: I always was just like I just want to get 91 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: a good screaming. I just want to be stabbing in 92 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: the chest and be climb upstairs. I just want to, like, 93 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: you know, just something crazy. 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: It just makes me havy. 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, you do, know, Megan, Like when we 96 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: do those horror movies, we don't really make it to 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: the end. 98 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: But see what Kai wheeling. 99 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: But I would say, But but for me, I actually 100 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 4: was excited about the diocese. 101 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. I mean, but not the first not 102 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: the first one. 103 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: You well, only one miscalled it. 104 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: I died in the first scene and they shot that 105 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: after the fact as. 106 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: A cameo for the beginning opening thing, and I. 107 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: Thought, well, this is really cool, right, yeah, but but 108 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: horror all things made equal. 109 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: You love the drama, you love the comedy, but it's the. 110 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: Horror and horror and the thriller. 111 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: How do you I mean, I'm trying to figureut, how 112 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: do you how do you tap into that? How do 113 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: you like? Oh, let me go in? Here? Are you here? 114 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: Because, like I said, survival is one of the greatest 115 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: human emotions. You know, we're all doing that every single day, 116 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: and then in a heightened circumstance. I think that it's 117 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: interesting when you discover what you would and what wouldn't do, 118 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: or you discover what a character would and wouldn't do. 119 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: But my characters, the ones that I played, it ain't 120 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: ben No, like. 121 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: Hello, I wouldn't even do that. If he was in 122 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: the script, I'd be like, y'all come on. 123 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: So you were three striped with us? This three three 124 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: striped with Monique face. I love David and Orty, Mike Yep, 125 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: Anthony Anderson. 126 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: What's it like? More worker with more? I've had more 127 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: on here and and imprecious. Yeah, you know, TV is unbelievable. 128 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: I don't know your relationship with her, but I thought 129 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: she was unbelievable in all of her role, and I 130 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: think he had a. 131 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Good id to. I mean, I don't keep up with 132 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: all the thing anything. 133 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: Things with people are people, and honestly, people be miserable 134 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: and I'm just so please get your whole life. Just 135 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: stop projecting your things, go get help or just you know, 136 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: does somebody give you a hea love on you? 137 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: That's that. 138 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 4: And I'm saying that about people who say stuff about her, 139 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: not about her. I think that she's wonderful. I think 140 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: she has a beautiful heart. She has always been kind 141 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 4: to me and goes out of her way to love 142 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: on me and has always been consistent with me no 143 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: matter what I had going on. 144 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: That's it for me. I don't care about nothing else. 145 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: That's how you dudge the person about how they treat you. 146 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: Yes, that's it, and how they treat my mama if 147 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: they meet my mama. 148 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 4: But I don't care about all the other stuff because 149 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: that that's other people's stuff. 150 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: So you an Obama effect with Cat? What's it like 151 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: working with kat? 152 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: On said, Cat's sweetheart. He's a sweetheart. I see his interview. 153 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: I'm leaving it at that. I'm leaving it at that. 154 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: That's what I am gonna say. I'm sorry, but my 155 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: man is sexy to me very We just need to 156 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: be all the way clear on that. 157 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: You know what, I forgot all about that. I forgot 158 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: about that my pay Okay, okay. The TV shows that 159 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: you've been in the Game Star Molisha Lawen Order. 160 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: Cole Damn, Famous, j Jackson, Touched by an Angel, Carlem 161 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: Raising Dad with Bob Saget. Of all the shows, I mean, 162 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Lawn Order, Still Going Mosha was unbelievable. What was your 163 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: What was your favorite? What was your favorite show that 164 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: you were in? 165 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: Oh? I have to say Harlem, ruly yeah. 166 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: And it's because, well, first of all, it's the best 167 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: experience I've had as an actress in my entire life, 168 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: hands down. 169 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: I love Tracy Oliver, the creator of the show. 170 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: I love you know, Mimi Pharrell, Amy Kim Scott, I 171 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: mean just everybody who was apart everyone who's a part 172 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: of creating that show. And I love the girls and 173 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: that show very very much. I absolutely adore every single 174 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: one of them. Genuinely, they are my sisters. And to 175 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: have that relationship to come on to a set, you know, 176 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: I remember me and Grace Bryer's talking about some kind 177 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: of like horror stories and things that we've been through. 178 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: And we sat there on the couch and we barely 179 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: knew each other, and I was doing her show that 180 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: she was doing, and she afterwards, we sat and prayed 181 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: together and we just said, you know, I hope the 182 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: guy that we get to do a show together, because 183 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: we will cover each other and love each other. It 184 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: would be the best experience ever. Cut to a year 185 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 4: and a half later, she's cast as Quinn. I'm getting 186 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: ready to go in and test for Camille. And as 187 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to test, I meet sorry Jerry, who plays Tie, 188 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: and me and Jerry instantly, I'm like, oh, I love 189 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: this girl. I absolutely adore her. 190 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: And then I go to the bathroom and I'm running 191 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: my lines. A Shanika walks in and Shanicko goes, do 192 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: you remember me? And I said from where? She said 193 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: about four years ago, I was on FaceTime where you 194 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: were working on the show. 195 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: And it was that show that I had a bad 196 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: experience on, And she said, and I had a mutual 197 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: friend and he called me and I told you I 198 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: was a fan of yours and I loved you, and 199 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: I wanted to work with you. One day, you said, 200 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 4: let's place both of our hands on the screen. This 201 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: claim it in Jesus name, that we're going to work 202 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: together on something. And then we were both testing and 203 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: we both got it. And so it's just everything about 204 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: the writing. I love the character, I love how I've 205 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 4: grown as an actress. I love working with them. I 206 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: love everybody involved in creation, down to the crew. Everybody 207 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: in the crew. 208 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: I absolutely adore it. It's just been the best experience. 209 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't think. 210 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: I haven't heard you speak, but you've seen you a 211 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: very spiritual person. When did this come about? Have you 212 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: always been like this? 213 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: Well? I didn't grow up in the church. 214 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 4: When I was about twelve, I started going to a 215 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: youth group that my acting coach shout out to. Carnetta 216 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: Jones was my acting coach from age eleven to twenty six, 217 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: and she was a youth group leader was called God's Gang, 218 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: which is now the name of my production company. 219 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: And I had some friends. 220 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: There were two girls in school especially who looked out 221 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: for me when people would try to bully me. And 222 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: those two girls and one of their older sister and 223 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: a five year old girl. They were babysitting in. Another 224 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: friend of theirs left youth group that night and got 225 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: into a car accident, and their friend passed away. The 226 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: little girl who's about to turn six passed away. One 227 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 4: of the girl's older sister, oh, she passed away. To 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: that pray and then and then the girl whose younger 229 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 4: sister was it used to look out for me. She 230 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: got severe brain damage. And the other girl who used 231 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: to look out for me had to get reconstructive surgery 232 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: and all this stuff. But we went to this uh, 233 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: I forget what it's called. Would you kind of like 234 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: go out into the you know, woods and you camp 235 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: and stuff, and you you know, pray and blah blah. 236 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: And I remember that night her like calling out to 237 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: God and crying and saying why. And then she got 238 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: saved that night. And so I was just like, well, 239 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: how how do you go to God instead of away 240 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: from God when something like that happens? 241 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: Right? 242 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: And it just made me curious. 243 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: And because I had so much respect for her, and 244 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: because she looked out for me the way that she 245 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: had shout out to Alicia, wherever you are in the world, 246 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 4: I love you, she it kind of put me on 247 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: my path. 248 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: Her example did and so. 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 4: After that I became a Christian, and then I was 250 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: like a Bible stumper and like super religious and very judgmental. 251 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: I remember when my sister lost the virginity. I was fourteen, 252 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: she was sixteen, and I went to her. I was like, 253 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: I just don't want you to go to Hell. 254 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: I was that kid. None of my friends told me 255 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: when they lost their virginity. Everyone's like, don't tell Peggan. 256 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: You know. Of course I was the last lose my 257 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: virginity at nineteen. 258 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: And then at that time, you know, I kind of 259 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 4: you know, there's all these phases of getting to know 260 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: God and maturing. My prayer used to be like, please 261 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: let me look like one of the lead seekers from 262 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: in Vogue. He actually aswered the prayer, shout out to invoke. 263 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: But then, you know, as you get older, your prayers mature, 264 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: your relationship with God matures, You start to get perspective 265 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 4: and learn and and so mine has always been a journey, 266 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: you know, and in these last two years has been 267 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 4: especially a journey. But it's been it's such an incredible journey. 268 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: The place that I'm in now, where I just have 269 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: such a freedom in God and just such a trust 270 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: that God knows my heart and knows who I am 271 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 4: even better than I do. 272 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: And so yes, it's been a really, really beautiful thing. 273 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: It's a really beautiful journey. 274 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: The last two years where your faith has been tested 275 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: the most, for sure. 276 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 4: Not this past year. This past year, I'm like, Lord, 277 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 4: I knowed you're gonna do what you do and I 278 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: trust you and making sure that I was there to 279 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: give that to Jonathan. That's what I felt that I 280 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: was there to do. Yeah, my faith is never a 281 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: wavered in that, you know, in that instance, but going 282 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: through the divorce that shook me to my core. 283 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: I was just like, but Lord, you asked me to 284 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: be Celiban, I was you know, you told me to 285 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: marry I married that person. I try to do everything 286 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: to the best of my ability and know I didn't 287 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: do everything perfect, but I don't know that I could 288 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: have done anything different, if I'm being honest. 289 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: And so. 290 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: I was just like, why is this happening? 291 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: My greatest fear was for my husband to leave me 292 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: after ten years of marriage, the way that my dad 293 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: and my mom separated, and that's exactly what happened. 294 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: And it's just like, I. 295 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: Don't understand this and so it was a lot of prayer, 296 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: a lot of evaluation, a lot of learning about myself, 297 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: even it was a lot of. 298 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: Realizing the place that we both were in. It was 299 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of just like rediscovering God 300 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: and realize that sometimes. 301 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: The way that we see or understand things, it's not 302 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: that it's not true, it's just you do come into 303 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 4: different seasons. And I had to accept that if this 304 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: isn't something I've chosen, but it's something that God has allowed, 305 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: then God has allowed it for a good reason. 306 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: And I think that we both have grown from it tremendously. 307 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: I think that. 308 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: Now. 309 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: I think that at the time I was so mad 310 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: at a Devona, but now I think what he did 311 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: was very brave, and I think that it was a 312 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: very scary thing to know that the church and all 313 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: the people and everyone was going to be like, well, 314 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: this is. 315 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: Not what a man of God or a woman of 316 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: God does, you know? And and of course there are 317 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people who are like, well, Mage must 318 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: have done something, and I'm like, what you know? But 319 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: I think that I. 320 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: Think that in order to grow to the place that 321 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: we've grown, I think we absolutely were supposed to be 322 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: married for that amount of time, and I think we 323 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: got the best the benefit out of it. 324 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: And I think he taught me a lot and I 325 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: taught him a lot, and we took a lot, we 326 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: gave a lot. But we're still friends. 327 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: And you know, as he said that the love is, 328 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: you know, transitioned into something else, but it's still love. 329 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: And I don't regret anything. 330 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: And I'm super thankful for the time that we were married, 331 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: and I'm super thankful for what I learned. And I 332 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: think that I love now in a different capacity because 333 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 4: when your absolute worst fear happens, now there's nothing to 334 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: be afraid of anymore. 335 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: In that situation, You like, I prayed for this, I 336 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: was everything, everything God, everything you asked me to do, 337 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: I did. 338 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 339 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Did you feel at that moment that as the marriage 340 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: is starting to dissolve, did you feel like a failure. 341 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: No, I don't think so, because I I feel like 342 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: we had almost ten successful, full years of marriage. 343 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: I feel like. 344 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: I feel like I got so much from it that 345 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: has made me better and has helped me grow, and 346 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: I feel that he feels the same way. So I 347 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: don't feel like it was a failure by any means 348 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: I just didn't understand it. 349 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: So I was like, but this you say forever, it 350 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: means you know, and and that wasn't the case, you know. 351 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: But I think that part is the part that I 352 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 4: struggle with the most because I would have never gotten 353 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: a divorce under any circumstances. And I don't know, I 354 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: don't know if that's always the right thing, you know. 355 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: And it's not that anything bad was going on. Nobody 356 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: was cheating, nothing like, you know. And I won't get 357 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: into why we divorce, but I don't know if being 358 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: married for the sake of. 359 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: Just societal because society said you, well, because. 360 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: Of religion, you know. 361 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: I think I think you really have to have a 362 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: relationship with God and see how God is moving you. 363 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 4: And sometimes it's not going to make sense to anybody else. 364 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: And that's okay, it's not for it to make sense 365 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: to anybody else. 366 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: You just have to be in tune with prior to 367 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: being married to someone. A minister, yeah, you being in 368 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: being a woman of faith belief. Would you have felt 369 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: this way had you not grown through that about not 370 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: necessarily like being married? 371 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, I think that still would have been like, no, 372 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: you get married it's in the world. 373 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: Y'all better work it out. You figure out, you better 374 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: do something, and I think if you can, you should. 375 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: But again, I think that sometimes God moves us in 376 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 4: ways that it may seem contradictory to other people's perception 377 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: or how they see or read the word or literally 378 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: what it says. But I think that's why we have 379 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: to be very clear on having a relationship with God, 380 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: not just a religion with God. We have to be 381 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: very clear on hearing from God. And that's got to 382 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: be the compass period the relationship with God and not 383 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 4: the relationship where you not really hearing that and you 384 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: just want to do what you want to do and 385 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: you want a reason to do it or an excuse 386 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: to do it, but really knowing if that's what you're 387 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: hearing God to tell you to do. No matter what 388 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: anybody thinks or anyone says you got to move away, 389 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: God is telling you to And. 390 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: That's just that. 391 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: Outside of your closest friends, your support, do people or 392 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: did people know that you had such a close relationship 393 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: with God. 394 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 3: I think people see what they want to see. 395 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: If you go back to every Men's magazine that I 396 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: was on the cover of, and you realize that I 397 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: never wore a bathing suit, I never wore lingerie. And 398 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: then you look in those interviews from nineteen ninety nine, 399 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: two thousand and one, two thousand and four, two thousand 400 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: and you will always see that I always said I 401 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: am a Christian, I believe in God. I'm not to 402 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 4: do anything that would disappoint God. God is my compass. 403 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: I've always talked about God, and I think that sometimes 404 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: when people go, oh, well it's to cover a men's magazine, Well, 405 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: for me, that's not a conviction of mine. I don't 406 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: feel that God is concerned with what I'm wearing. And 407 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: so if that is not my conviction. It says in 408 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: the Bible, have he who has faith have it to 409 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 4: himself before God? Happy is he who does not condemn 410 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: himself and what he proves meaning, And then it goes 411 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: on to talk about if you don't really believe that 412 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 4: that's what God approves, then you are sinning. But if 413 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: you really believe that between you and God, then that's 414 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: that period. 415 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: That's what that is for you. And so that's the 416 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: tatoo I have he which even that is like. 417 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: Oh you should have PERI shit, But well, for me, 418 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 4: it's a reminder to not go too far down the 419 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 4: religious rabbit hole and stay in the relationship with God. 420 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: God, what do you say? And so for me, I 421 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: never had a conviction about that kind of thing. 422 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: My feeling was like, I want to get this, these 423 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: words that I'm saying about God and how much I 424 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: love God and how God is the head of my life. 425 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: I want to get this to the people who are 426 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: going to pick up this magazine because I'm. 427 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: Not going to get to them any other way, and 428 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 4: most of the other people in the church, they're not 429 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: going to get to them at all. So if I 430 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: feel comfortable and I don't feel like I'm doing something wrong, 431 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: then I'm just going to be authentically me and I'm 432 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 4: going to reach other people that other people don't just 433 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 4: by being who I'm called to be and being authentically that. 434 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Before you take a role, do you always pray on it? 435 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: Majority of the time, sometimes I just feel my spirit 436 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, good, I feel good about this. If 437 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, then I pray about it. If I've 438 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: ever felt the God's like no, that's not what I 439 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: want you to do, then I just want to do it. 440 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: Period. Even if I want to do it period, I 441 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: want to do it. 442 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 443 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's easy when you have that kind of 444 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: faith and you say you've been walking what since. 445 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: You were about nineteen, I've been saying since I was twelve. 446 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: Twelve, Yeah, Lusty Virginia in nineteen, So you've been You've 447 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: been on this role, been on this road for the 448 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: better part of two decades. 449 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 450 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: So the highs and the lows. 451 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: You never questioned, like, is God's will and whatever he decided, 452 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: whatever his with Yeah, I. 453 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: Think that, I think, I I think that I've I 454 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 4: have to accept that because you can't accept one thing 455 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: and not accept the y. And so I trust God 456 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: and and and even like you know, when when the 457 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: divorce happened, I was mad at God. 458 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: I was like, what kind of what? I was so mad? 459 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: But I was just like, but you never questioned me. 460 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 4: I did. 461 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: I didn't question if I was going to be okay. 462 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: I questioned, well, why why do it? What was the point? 463 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: And we are Yeah? And then also I was like, 464 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: you knew this was my worst fear, Like why you know? 465 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: And then you know, over the years and it's you know, 466 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: almost almost been like three years now, so over the years, 467 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm always revealed a lot more, And every time I'm 468 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: revealed a lot more, I'm just really ingratitude and thankful 469 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: that I married someone that was so wonderful and that 470 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: is so wonderful, and that we had that time, and 471 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: that we grew together and just all the things, and 472 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 4: so I don't believe that anything's in vain. That's probably 473 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: the only moment where I was just like, okay, Lord, 474 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: you know right. But now I'm like, okay, learn, thank you. 475 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: The days are warmer, the walks are longer, and one 476 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: easy way to help your dog shine this season is 477 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: with fresh, healthy food from Farmer's Dog Farmers Dogs make fresh, 478 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: real food and delivers it right to your door. Recipes 479 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: are developed by vet Nutrition. It's made from real meat 480 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: and veggies and proportion just for your dog, making it 481 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: easy to say goodbye to burnt brown balls. Feed your 482 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: dog real food with real benefits. 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Won't you 500 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: just sing them, memorize them like that? Have anybody given 501 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: you pointers to help you relax? 502 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 4: So it just the best advice I ever got was 503 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: from Lorenz. Tape on my Steed and I was nervous 504 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: about this scene. I was trying to get into it 505 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: and we'd already taken like two tapes. 506 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: And he just grabbed me. He was like sis. I 507 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: was like yeah, yeah. He was like fuck it, okay, 508 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean. He was like, 509 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: fuck it. And I realized that he was like, just 510 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: don't overthink it. Just it's in you. 511 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 4: It'll come out. Don't try to get there, don't try 512 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 4: to figure it out. Just live and breathe it and 513 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: it's just going to come right out of you. 514 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: And it did. 515 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 4: And so now I tell that, you know, when I'm 516 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 4: around younger actresses or actors, I'm like, fuck it, it'll come. 517 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: It's in you. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't 518 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: in you. 519 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: So I read that you said that I think you 520 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 2: about fourteen ten or fourteen, that you've been in your 521 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: family's provider from the time that you were like fourteen 522 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: to some degree. 523 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my mom managed my sister and I, 524 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 4: so you know, we went out and we did our thing. 525 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 4: My sister was in a big singing group isis at 526 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 4: the time in the nineties and two big hits, and 527 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 4: so me and her both you know, but at a 528 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: certain point in time, you know, as things fluctuate and 529 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: things are happening, you know. 530 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: And for clarity, my father has always paid child support. 531 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: Didn't go back and heat the boss pretty clear. 532 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: I's always paid a child sport. 533 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 4: But yeah, for a long time, a lot of the 534 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 4: income that was coming in the house was primarily yet 535 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 4: just working. 536 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: How did that make you feel? 537 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: I mean, because like I remember growing up and working. 538 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: I was making twenty five thirty dollars a week, working six, 539 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: you know, five and a half, six days a week, 540 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: and I remember coming home and giving my grandmother ten 541 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: dollars fifteen dollars. 542 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: It's not much, but it was. 543 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: And I looked at me, I said, like, man, I'm 544 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: nineteen years old, I'm a provider. And it gave me 545 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: a sense of accomplishment. Yeah, and to this day that's 546 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: what I am. I'm a provider for my family. Did 547 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: that give you a sense of accomplishment because you're a 548 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: child at the end of the day, he's still a child, yeah, yeah, yeah, 549 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: And a lot of the was coming into the home, 550 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: it's courtesy of you. 551 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: Well, I looked at it like. 552 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: My mother before that time had did everything on her 553 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: own with an older brother who had special needs, and 554 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: then me and my sister, and then ultimately when she remarried, 555 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: you know, my stepbrother, and then she adopted my younger sister. 556 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: When I was fourteen, I was four years from being 557 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: out of the house. 558 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: And so my mother has been such a provider for 559 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: everybody on every level that it was nothing for me 560 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: to want to do it for her. And then also, 561 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: you know, again she was doing the work, she was 562 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: managing us, and when me and my sister said, you know, 563 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: can you quit your job? We want to pursue this 564 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: full time, she had to have enough faith to be like, Okay, 565 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: I believe that my children can do it and we 566 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 4: can keep this household afloat. So, you know, even when 567 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 4: I was working, there was times when I wasn't working 568 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: and Lamayah was overseas touring with her group, and she 569 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: would come home and she'd bring her money home. And 570 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: so our household was just one of whoever's got it 571 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: is all of ours. We take care of each other. 572 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: We are, you know, a tribe, and we always protect 573 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: and take care of each other, you know, And so 574 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: there was definitely a sense of acomplishment, but it also 575 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 4: was a sense of like, uh, safety, and just knowing 576 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 4: that we always look after. 577 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: Each other and we always feel look after each other. 578 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: You is there any actors in Hollywood? No? 579 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: Before I get to that, you said, like the pay 580 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: because you hear a lot of you know, you hear Taraji, Yeah, 581 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: you hear a lot of black a Viola Davis who 582 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: have the egoch. We hear a lot of black actors 583 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: actresses talking about the discrepancy of pay yep. 584 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you experienced that? 585 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: For sure? For sure? It's interesting because. 586 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: You know, I remember talking to Jonathan about a project 587 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: and he asked me what my quote was and I 588 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: told him and he was like no, He was like 589 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: absolutely not no, And I kind of knew, but I 590 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 4: also was like, I know how much I've worked my 591 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 4: life to even get to that point, right, But the 592 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 4: discrepancy a discrepancy, And it actually disappoints me that people have, 593 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: you know, made fun of Taraji or whoever, like crying 594 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: and saying because because it's not right, and people don't 595 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 4: realize that. They're like, oh, well, you're an actress. You know, 596 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: you're rich and famous. You're wearing nice dresses and rings 597 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: and stuff. And I'm like, no, baby, doll, let me 598 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 4: explain something to you. We go to work sometimes fifteen 599 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: eighteen hours a day, and the energy, the work that 600 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: we do, the giving that we give of ourselves, everything 601 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: around it is a lot of work and then not 602 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: just that. You walk out of the house and you 603 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: work a lot more just walking down the street or 604 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: doing press for a project. And you see people and 605 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: athletes whatever is getting paid what they get paid for 606 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: their talent and for and their work ethic and everything 607 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: they bring to the table. Why do black actresses not 608 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: deserve that? And we are working very, very very hard. 609 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: I've retired my entire life. I have never not worked hard, 610 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: so especially in the real home of when it's being 611 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: compared to what other people were getting. I remember the 612 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: same show i'm talking to you about. You know, I 613 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: was the lead on that show, but I was number 614 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: two on the call sheet, and the guy who was 615 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: number one, who's a white gentleman, such a sweetheart and 616 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: incredible human being, he was like, this isn't right. 617 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: He was like, you should be number one on the 618 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: call sheet. 619 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, I know, you know, but 620 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: it's it's just there's so much of that that people 621 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: have to speak up and you know, and it's unfortunate 622 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: that they have to be somewhat of a martyr for 623 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: people to start paying attention. 624 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: And then it's like, Okay, don't just pay attention, y'all. 625 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: Do something about it, you know what I'm saying. And 626 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: so yeah, it is. 627 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: It is a big thing and it's really not right 628 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 4: and it's really not cool, and you know, and and 629 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 4: what I will say, you know, thinking about Tyler Perry. 630 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: Tyler Perry is the first person who paid me what 631 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: I should get paid. Wow, first person and did not 632 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: link at I. You know, he said how much she want? 633 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: I said, let me, let me talk to my team, 634 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: you know, really quick, and He's liked, just tell me 635 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 4: what you want. I was like, Tyler, I said, let me, 636 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 4: just because I wasn't quite sure what to ask for. 637 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: And then you know, I was talking to Johnathan and 638 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 4: he was like, you should ask for this and I 639 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I can't ask for that, and I 640 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: was like, I don't, like you know, it's like it's. 641 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: Almost a mentality. 642 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 4: And then going back to the child after syndrome too, 643 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: it's like I don't want to lose the job, you know, 644 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: but it's like you forget what an asset you were. 645 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes they make you forget. 646 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes they make you feel like you should be grateful 647 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: that we even offered you the job, and you should 648 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: take whatever we whatever we're offering as the police just says, well, 649 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, she's talented. There's a reason why we're offering 650 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: her the job, and let's pay her a fair wage. 651 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I asked Tyler and he said, I 652 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: was gonna give you that anyways. But I was like, 653 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: and then I started crying, and then I couldn't stop. 654 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: Were you crying? Let me see, I'm gonna let you. 655 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you tell me why you started crying. 656 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna tell you why I thought you 657 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: why I think you started crying. 658 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: Why did you start crying? 659 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: Because I felt valued. I felt like someone wasn't just 660 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: sitting there and telling me unvaluable. 661 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: They were actually showing me because actions obviously are much 662 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: bigger than words, and. 663 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: Because he was excited to do it for me. 664 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: And then he said, he said, I want to make 665 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 4: sure you and he named a few other people who 666 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: was like, you guys have been doing this all your 667 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: lives and you should get what you deserve and. 668 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure that you get it. And that's 669 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: the kind of person that Tyler is. 670 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: And so just that feeling of feeling valued and someone 671 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 4: not just saying it but proving it, that's exactly what. 672 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna say. You started crying for the very 673 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: first time. Somebody saw the value in Megan Good and 674 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: they paid you accordingly. Yeah, yeah, you good emotional thinking 675 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: about it, don't you? 676 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: I do, because I do feel I do feel that. 677 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: A lot of people see the value in me and 678 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: some don't. But a lot of people do see the 679 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: value in me. But it doesn't mean that they're going 680 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: to treat me as. 681 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: Compensate you accordingly, Yeah, yeah, you have this persona people 682 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: look at you as like the cute girl, the cute lady. 683 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: You try to live that down. What means you cut 684 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: your hair? I mean people saw you. Oh yeah, you 685 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: cut your hair because did you feel that you in 686 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: order for you to be taken serious? 687 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had this was a step. Well. 688 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 4: I had this long kind of hair that I wore often, 689 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: and I just think that people were like, oh, she's 690 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 4: you know, the cute girl, the pretty girl, the safety girl, 691 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: the girl next door, the love interest. And I just 692 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: realized in order for me to get out of that space, 693 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: I had to show up differently, and you know, and 694 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: so that's what I did, you know, And even then 695 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: it still was a hard box to break. Out of 696 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: you know, But I look at stuff like Harlem, and 697 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: you know, it's it ain't about the way I look 698 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 4: at all. It's about who this woman is and all 699 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 4: her quirks and all her truth and all of her 700 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: searching and figuring out and the roles that now I'm getting, right, 701 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: I'm getting to play in my forties. 702 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: That has been incredible. I think that. I think that's 703 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: the best part too, is like I truly am in 704 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: the second. 705 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: Act of my life and who I've lived many lifetimes already, 706 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: and I'm excited for what's going to come out of 707 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: me in this next year. What's going to come out 708 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: of me in every performance because of the things I've experienced. 709 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 4: What's going to come out of me when I have 710 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: kids with you know, all those things. What's going to 711 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: come out of me when you know I'm older woman, 712 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: when i'm you know, the sixties, seventies, All that's really 713 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: exciting to me. 714 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: So, yeah, you mentioned you in this new movie Divorce 715 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: in the New. 716 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: Black, A divorce in the Black, divorce in excuse. 717 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: Me, divorce in the Black. 718 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, hmmm, what because divorced the Black. So obviously, if 719 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: I'm having to guess you a divorce. You divorce, how 720 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: much having gone through that, were you able to fall 721 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: back on and says okay, okay, and boom, here we go. 722 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: All of it, all of it. 723 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 4: Because even though she's in a very different situation than 724 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: I was in, it's still that reality of expecting that 725 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: your life is going to go one way and then 726 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: suddenly realizing it's going to go a totally different way. 727 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: And then you are trying to figure out what you're 728 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: supposed to do and having to re kind of learn yourself, 729 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 4: but realizing that you've also changed and you've grown, and 730 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 4: then you're having to rekind of calibrate your mind to 731 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: not be sad and not you know, like you have 732 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: to go through the sadness. You definitely have to go 733 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 4: through the pain and the crying and the process, which 734 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 4: is a process. I think to some degree, you never 735 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 4: don't like not have it in some way, shape or form, 736 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: as long as you don't let it make you bitter, 737 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: you let it make you better. But the process that 738 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: she had to go through to go, Okay, now I'm 739 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 4: in this next phase of life and I'm gonna embrace 740 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: this and I'm gonna get excited about this and I'm 741 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 4: gonna figure out what I want and what makes me happy, 742 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 4: and having complete freedom after that to be like, Okay, 743 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: it's my world, what I want to do with it, 744 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: you know. And so I think many of the moments 745 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: that Ava had there's a scene where I'm running and 746 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: you know, it. 747 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 3: Was just like I was just so there. 748 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: I just I knew exactly where Ava was and I 749 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: was just so there with her, and I was pleased 750 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 4: to be able to gift her with the realist, truest 751 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 4: rosst emotion of what that reality was. 752 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: Is it easier to play a role when you're familiar, 753 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: not just a character, but you're like, I've been there, 754 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: I've done that. I actually know what a divorce is 755 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: going through in this very moment, I can see, I can. 756 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: Tell you what it's like. 757 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it is easier, although there 758 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 4: is your experience and their experience. 759 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you you might not have gone through the 760 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: reason why she got divorced, might not be the reason 761 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: why you got the divorced, So it has to be different. 762 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm reading that marriage gone wrong. 763 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the bestic violence, maybe financials, or whatever the 764 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: case may be. 765 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day is that big 766 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: d Yes. 767 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, And the only difference is how does this person 768 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: download and processing? 769 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: Yes? 770 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: Like, for instance, you know, with my character in Harlem, 771 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 3: it's the first time. 772 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 4: Where I go, Okay, she's a Gemini, so I'm going 773 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 4: to pursue all Gemini traits. 774 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: So if Megan, if you came at her like this, 775 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 3: Megan might. 776 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 4: Get indignant and be like, but a Gemini is actually 777 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 4: going to go wait a second and get introspective and 778 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 4: a totally different gear is gonna hit for them. And 779 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: so that's the only difference is even though I can 780 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 4: understand where the character's at distinguishing the difference between not 781 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 4: just Ava and Megan's journeys, but Ava and Megan's mentalities 782 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 4: and their bandwidth for pain and their how much did 783 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 4: they you know, hide from their family, how much did 784 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 4: they share with the dynamic between her mother versus her, 785 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 4: you know, all those things that would probably be the 786 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 4: only thing. 787 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 3: But do I think it's easier in general? 788 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: Yes, because you already have a leg up, because you 789 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: already have such a rich will to pull from. 790 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: Should we should we view divorce as bad? 791 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 3: I don't know anymore. 792 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: I don't know prior to. 793 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 2: You going through divorce? How did you view divorce happening 794 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: to you? How would you beautyful? 795 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: I felt like for any other reason besides domestic violence, 796 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I better figure that out. 797 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 3: But now I just I don't know. I think that. 798 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 4: What I experienced made me less judgmental about an experience 799 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 4: that somebody else is having that I don't know what 800 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 4: it is, and I can't say that that it's bad 801 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 4: or good for anybody. 802 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: All I can say is that it hurt a lot 803 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: for me. But I think that I think that it. 804 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 4: Also was a blessing to both of us in a way, 805 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 4: and not because it happened, but because if it had 806 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: to happen, and that was a part of our story, 807 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 4: we both got so much from it. 808 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: Did you feel you let people down? 809 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 3: Yes and no, because I think that. 810 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 4: I think I felt that I let people down a 811 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 4: bit with the weight, because you know, I never said 812 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: to someone, well, this is what I think you should do, 813 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 4: and I never pursued making the. 814 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 3: Book like look how I did it, guys, this is 815 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: what you know. It was never that. 816 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 4: It was always people asking it, inquiring, and me say, oh, 817 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 4: this is the spaces that I'm in this is what 818 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 4: God's telling me to do right now, and people being curious, 819 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 4: and from that coming a book talking about our experience, 820 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 4: not necessarily telling people to go do it, but saying 821 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 4: this is why it worked for us, and this is why, 822 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: you know, we believe in it. And I still believe 823 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 4: in the way, and I still believe that it worked 824 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 4: for us. I think that what didn't work for us 825 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 4: were the reasons why we ultimately, you know, divorce. 826 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: But I think that. 827 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 4: I think the weight allowed us to get the full benefit, 828 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 4: and I think it's the reason that we're still friends 829 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 4: to this day. 830 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: I think it's the reason that we walked into the 831 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: room with both of our divorce attorneys and you look great. 832 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: Look at you. 833 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 3: You've been working out. Yeah, you look great too. You 834 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 3: do this, you know, and they looking like y'all getting divorced, 835 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: and we're like, yeah, they're like, y'all just okay, you know. 836 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 4: And when people when they see us, you know, we 837 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,479 Speaker 4: see each other in the street, you know, people turns 838 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 4: up around us and I'm like, you know, it's just 839 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 4: like and it's genuine love. And I think a lot 840 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 4: of that really is because of the way and the 841 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 4: way that we got to know each other and the 842 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 4: quality of the human being and the trust that was there, 843 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 4: even if there, you know, was disappointment at the end, 844 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 4: I can look at Divan and say that's a good person. 845 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 3: Wow, And I'm thankful for that time. 846 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 2: Divorce in the Black will launch globally on Prime Video 847 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: July eleven. 848 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by, making good ladies and gentlemen. 849 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much, thank you. 850 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle price, 851 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: want to slice. 852 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 3: All my life? I grinding all my life, all my life, 853 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 3: grinding all my life, sacrifice. 854 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: That's a bay the price of one slice, that's a 855 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: police as well. 856 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: All my life. 857 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: I've done it all my life.