Speaker 1: Talk talk. We're just too unapologetically black women with an
Speaker 1: opinion to talk back. Hey, y'all, it's me Tim Van.
Speaker 1: Welcome to a new episode of We Talked Back. I
Speaker 1: don't like that. She was like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know who I am, bitch? How was your Valentine?
Speaker 1: Can I introduce my mother for yourself? What's up? Y'all's
Speaker 1: a j hi girl? Are you sure you your motherfuck
Speaker 1: your self? Sometimes? How was your Valentine's? I do much
Speaker 1: chill out. I took myself out to dinner and I
Speaker 1: went to Um, you know, that's my first year with
Speaker 1: no Valentine, but it was cool. I took myself out
Speaker 1: to dinner and I hit up a few spots in
Speaker 1: the city, got a low tipsy, and took my ass home.
Speaker 1: That's it. I mean Saturday. Yeah, I did that on Saturday,
Speaker 1: actual holiday Monday. Um, and do ship I say anybody
Speaker 1: did an? Yeah? Well, um, I didn't. I didn't go
Speaker 1: nick knocking you guys, I didn't. It just wasn't in
Speaker 1: me this year. I think I've outgrown that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll try it next year, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Something about potentially getting shot by somebody this year was
Speaker 1: just not on the menu. But I did have sent
Speaker 1: me someone send me a hundred twenty four roses and
Speaker 1: balloons and cupcakes and ship, and then didn't come to
Speaker 1: see me. So I was in here with all that
Speaker 1: ship by myself. That's some bullshit. That's cock blocking, because
Speaker 1: how it is cock blocking is like what if you
Speaker 1: had other players? If you're not gonna be here, what
Speaker 1: a funk? Why are you? Why we got all this
Speaker 1: ship in the house and you were here? That's like
Speaker 1: the ultimate cock clock. Yeah I didn't. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think of it that way. You're right, Like it was
Speaker 1: kind of like a dog pissing on the territory basically. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my Valentine's Day. But it smells like a
Speaker 1: nice little rainforest in here. I guess thanks, that's still
Speaker 1: a good time. No, the flowers are beautiful and I
Speaker 1: do appreciate. Now. Oh I did it Valentine some company.
Speaker 1: I got some flowers of Valentine. I like flowers. Oh
Speaker 1: you know what I did get on Valentine's Day? My period? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: so you ain't about to have nobody up in there anyway. Nah,
Speaker 1: it was dead. It was dead. By eleven thirty that afternoon.
Speaker 1: I think if your period was on now, you probably
Speaker 1: would have give a fuck. You would have cared that
Speaker 1: you can't hand nobody else up in there. Uh, I
Speaker 1: would have brought another nigga up in here anyway, Like
Speaker 1: where you get all these flowers from? Not to you
Speaker 1: better step your game, basically, nigga. No, I'm joking. I
Speaker 1: don't even have anybody that I would have wanted, even
Speaker 1: the nigga who bought the flowers. Did I to want
Speaker 1: it here on Valentine's Day just because it just seems
Speaker 1: like a day for lovers, and since I'm not in love,
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, It's still a nice day, it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's beautiful. I never ever tripped over Valentine's.
Speaker 1: But if you wear somebody or even just smashing like
Speaker 1: niggas know, they'd better show up for whoever they fucking with. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem. It's gonna be a whole problem,
Speaker 1: even if you don't even I don't even want no
Speaker 1: goddamn happy Valentine's. They text him, you ain't send me
Speaker 1: ship at least till a buch of door dash meal
Speaker 1: or something good damn day, everything normal, bit the number
Speaker 1: you have reached. So, uh, it's Black History Month. I
Speaker 1: have a batty who talks back. We actually have two
Speaker 1: batties who talked back. But I'm gonna read about once
Speaker 1: you guys. So today's batty. Today's first batty is Moms Maybe,
Speaker 1: and she was one of the most successful entertainers of
Speaker 1: the black chitling circuit. She was Jackie Moms Maybe born
Speaker 1: Loretta Loretta Mary Aikin in eight and at the apex
Speaker 1: of her long career, she was earning ten thousand a
Speaker 1: week at Harlem's Apollo Theater. That's good money a week.
Speaker 1: Maybe Maybe focused on conventional topics such as family and
Speaker 1: others not normally covered by comedians of the era, white
Speaker 1: or black, such as infidelity, poverty, welfare, and inebriation. So
Speaker 1: he's talking about getting drunk and ship. You couldn't talk
Speaker 1: about that then. Her career spanning five decades, although white
Speaker 1: audiences did not know of her until the early nineteen sixties,
Speaker 1: Maybe Maybee played God Damn, I'm reading like agent. Maybe
Speaker 1: played Carnegie Hall in nineteen sixty two. Main Stream TV
Speaker 1: appearances in the nineteen sixties included variety of show appearances
Speaker 1: like Flip Wilson, Mike Douglas, MERV Griffin, The Smother Brothers
Speaker 1: Comedy Hour, This is Some Old Ship, and Rowan and
Speaker 1: Martin's Laughing In nineteen sixty seven. She was an inspiration
Speaker 1: for irreverent female comics of that era, including Phyllis Diller,
Speaker 1: and in her final years Maybee poked fund at the
Speaker 1: president and at government officials. Mom's maybe you are a
Speaker 1: batty who talks back. Thank you so much for making
Speaker 1: us laugh all those years. Okay, but now for the
Speaker 1: second batty who talks back. We got lu Nell on
Speaker 1: we talked back, lu Nell. Oh my god, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: This is exciting. She's so funny. Let's go to commercial
Speaker 1: so we can hurry up and get to it. Y'all listen,
Speaker 1: we got a super duper special guest on we talked
Speaker 1: back this week. We got the bad Girl of comedy,
Speaker 1: miss lu Nell. When we talked back, I'm talking actress, writer,
Speaker 1: comedy legend, number one movies wife, mother, She's done it all.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. We talked back with thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. We see that you called the
Speaker 1: bad Girl the comedy and the original back the original
Speaker 1: don't get it twisted. The original Bad Girl and you
Speaker 1: were talking to the Jazzmines brand and you said that
Speaker 1: you talk ship and you smacked the beach in the club.
Speaker 1: Why did you smack that beach in the club. First
Speaker 1: of all, you're asking me to explain why I have
Speaker 1: the name the Original Badgirl a copy. Okay. I didn't
Speaker 1: give myself that name. I don't give myself names. I
Speaker 1: was given that name by a comedy promoter in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area named Rick Sullivan, many many, many years ago,
Speaker 1: over twenty years ago, because at that time I was
Speaker 1: considered a bad girl. I would bar fight, I would
Speaker 1: go to jail. I was doing bad things. So that's
Speaker 1: why he gave me that name. But regardless of my
Speaker 1: personal activities, I still remain the funniest woman in the
Speaker 1: funniest kind of in the room. So that's how it come.
Speaker 1: I continued to work so our brand. We talk shit,
Speaker 1: We raunchy, and we say what the funk we feel
Speaker 1: all the time, and I get like how I get
Speaker 1: responses like how are you gonna ever find a husband
Speaker 1: talking like that? How are you gonna be taking serious
Speaker 1: what you're talking like that? So I just want to
Speaker 1: ask you being someone doing comedy for so long and
Speaker 1: being married for June, ye be celebrating the anniversary of
Speaker 1: twenty one years. Congratulations to that. How do you navigate
Speaker 1: that ship? Like? How do you navigate a world where
Speaker 1: people tell you like, oh, you're not lady like enough
Speaker 1: and you're not this enough to sustain? How you find
Speaker 1: a man that let yourself? How about that? Yet? That? Well,
Speaker 1: actually he found me. I didn't find him. I'm very
Speaker 1: much a fan of like who likes you? Quit trying
Speaker 1: to make people who don't like you like you. Mhm,
Speaker 1: See who likes you and see if you can like
Speaker 1: him back? You know. Number one? Number two, Um, my
Speaker 1: husband met me in a club, uh, at a show,
Speaker 1: so he very much knew how I was the minute
Speaker 1: he met me. Literally, And um, some men actually like
Speaker 1: and gravitate too bad girls obviously. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: look at my friend Natalie Nunne, she's got a mouth,
Speaker 1: she fights on television, and she has an amazing husband,
Speaker 1: a beautiful daughter, an amazing home life. You might say,
Speaker 1: how does Natalie have a man. Well, I'm sure he
Speaker 1: has to put up with a lot, but you know
Speaker 1: he can take it. You know, Um, I think that. Um,
Speaker 1: the old adage of being a nice girl, it doesn't
Speaker 1: work anymore because guys aren't really looking for that nice
Speaker 1: girl all the time, depending on the guy. UM my
Speaker 1: husband and I right now, though, my husband is ill.
Speaker 1: And when you have a mate who's ill, you really
Speaker 1: start to realize what the vows mean better or worse,
Speaker 1: rich or poor sickness and in health. And my husband
Speaker 1: is sick, so he doesn't travel with me anymore. I
Speaker 1: don't have that support system that I used to have
Speaker 1: when he did travel with me and help me sling
Speaker 1: merchandise and do all that kind of stuff. I think
Speaker 1: that even a bad girl is not a bad girl
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, I still cook, I'm still
Speaker 1: a mother. I still went to the PGA meetings as
Speaker 1: much as I could. When my daughter was coming up,
Speaker 1: I wasn't as on the road as I am now,
Speaker 1: so I was able who make her first years up
Speaker 1: to like thirteen or fourteen pretty solid. It's just since
Speaker 1: then I've been traveling extensively and and doing a lot
Speaker 1: more film and television on location and out of town.
Speaker 1: I really don't um know how anybody else does it.
Speaker 1: I just know how it works for for me. And
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just got to be a certain
Speaker 1: kind of guy. You know, if I'm crazy and disrespectful,
Speaker 1: as long as I'm not that way to him, you know,
Speaker 1: then you probably don't. They probably don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it because it just comes with with the territory.
Speaker 1: Male comics or talk about their wifely in their comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the time. So I'm really not even trying to
Speaker 1: hear the ship. If you like me, you like me.
Speaker 1: If you don't, you know, I had the end of
Speaker 1: relationship because you know, I was being censored on this podcast,
Speaker 1: Like I really feel like I can't be my fucking
Speaker 1: self say what I want to say, and you know
Speaker 1: that I don't. I don't want to say as a
Speaker 1: character because we definitely ourselves, right. But if you can't
Speaker 1: handle me talking about past experiences like our podcasts about relationships,
Speaker 1: if you can't handle that type of ship, and you
Speaker 1: don't need to be with me, because I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: normal when I come home for you or when ware together, right,
Speaker 1: But if you can't handle me, just has been a
Speaker 1: strong man. A strong man is going to back his woman,
Speaker 1: a strong woman is going to back her man. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got men to do porn that are married and
Speaker 1: the women have to deal with that. And if this podcasts, uh,
Speaker 1: if this podcast or US Women are not for you,
Speaker 1: then there's a million podcasts that will suit you. You
Speaker 1: don't have to stay here listen to us and criticize us.
Speaker 1: Go over to Fred Hammond's podcast, go over to Karen
Speaker 1: Glugs podcast, go over to something else. There's more suited
Speaker 1: for you. But here, this is your platform, and anybody
Speaker 1: that want to say anything about it, you know you
Speaker 1: can go here. Middle fingers to my old life. I
Speaker 1: mean that. Um So, being a female in a male
Speaker 1: dominated industry, what do you feel like was your biggest
Speaker 1: obstacle as far as your career is concerned. I don't
Speaker 1: think I had many obstacles because my comedy speaks for itself.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're a female and you're not as
Speaker 1: strong as the men that you're performing with, that's when
Speaker 1: you run into a problem. But if you're a female
Speaker 1: and you're slaying consistently for years and you're in demand,
Speaker 1: and the people, because it's the people who make up
Speaker 1: who's popular and who's not, you can't really buy that
Speaker 1: if the people are writing with you, if you tap
Speaker 1: into it as that guys of how people feel male
Speaker 1: and female, because I don't do comedy directed only at females.
Speaker 1: I do comedy directed at people. You know. I talk
Speaker 1: about relationships. I talked about gaining weight, I talked about kids,
Speaker 1: talk about corona. I talked about all that type of
Speaker 1: stuff and that deals with people, not just females. But
Speaker 1: of course I have to speak from a female perspective
Speaker 1: because out of every hundred comedy shows, you might see
Speaker 1: seven females. You know, you have comedy shows that will
Speaker 1: have like five men on them and no female. You have.
Speaker 1: Females are the biggest ticket buyers, and the audience about
Speaker 1: ticket for themselves, about ticket for their man sometimes, but
Speaker 1: people don't support a comedy show with five females on it.
Speaker 1: But see, you have to have the right type of female.
Speaker 1: No nobody wants to hear about your crams and your
Speaker 1: minstrel cycle and your nails and all. I should talk
Speaker 1: about from real it talk about the fact that we
Speaker 1: have a generation of men growing up coddled and not
Speaker 1: getting taught right, and that these these niggas out here
Speaker 1: can't even Let's talk about that for a second, because
Speaker 1: listen our podcast We do talk to it about men
Speaker 1: a lot, right, but we also want to make women accountable,
Speaker 1: so we always say, like, who raised these niggas? Oftentimes
Speaker 1: it's a black woman. Fortunately, well, it's a black woman
Speaker 1: who stretched the stretched then and the man may have
Speaker 1: left them holding the bag. And the society has um
Speaker 1: made it the norm to have a single family, single
Speaker 1: and it made the double occupancy. The government has made
Speaker 1: it financially feasible to not have a man in the house.
Speaker 1: You can go back and watch this movie called Claudine
Speaker 1: and that that was in the in the seventies and
Speaker 1: and and you can see how that has happened. I
Speaker 1: think that men need to raise their male sons in
Speaker 1: the way that they were raised, you know, uh, if
Speaker 1: they want, if they have a The reason we even
Speaker 1: have gangs is because of the guys in gangs came
Speaker 1: from a single parent household. They don't have the male
Speaker 1: bonding that they need. A mother can teach your son
Speaker 1: a lot of things, but you can't be their daddy, period.
Speaker 1: And it really takes a man to raise a man.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of women who do a good jobs
Speaker 1: with their sons, but in some areas they're gonna be lacking.
Speaker 1: We don't know unless you're I don't know how to
Speaker 1: raise a male child. I don't know what balls are
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I don't know what how to take
Speaker 1: care of little penises and ship, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't know how to shave a faith.
Speaker 1: A man teaches a young man that I truly believe that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a shame to have. And then and
Speaker 1: then when it comes to men of means, unfortunately, these
Speaker 1: women are out there having children without the supporter of
Speaker 1: their man, or even unwed because uh, I just don't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. There's not enough money. I wouldn't care if
Speaker 1: us share impregnated me. There's not enough money for me
Speaker 1: to have a baby with a man simply for financial game,
Speaker 1: you know, which a lot of chicks are doing these days.
Speaker 1: But that baby is not gonna stay a baby forever.
Speaker 1: It's gonna grow up. It ship gets more complicated, not
Speaker 1: less complicated. To the school things you gotta attend to
Speaker 1: their parent teacher meetings that you need to show up for.
Speaker 1: There's you know, events and athletics and all this ship
Speaker 1: that I can't stand. I had one. Now you talked
Speaker 1: about you said something about like the system, how the
Speaker 1: system is set up for the single moms or whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you think that system was established because the men
Speaker 1: were leaving? Because I don't. I don't think the system
Speaker 1: was established because the men were leaving. I think the
Speaker 1: system was established because the men weren't. No, I don't
Speaker 1: mean because they just weren't there in the first Clay.
Speaker 1: I think the system. I think it was set up
Speaker 1: to help destroy the black household. Literally. I think that
Speaker 1: they have made it financially better for a woman in
Speaker 1: a certain bracket to be with yeah, or the women
Speaker 1: escape scapegoat for men in that case, because like I said,
Speaker 1: were they leaving the household or were was it to
Speaker 1: where they just couldn't be there? Because I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe they weren't there in the first place, so they
Speaker 1: left on their own accord, and then the system came in. Well,
Speaker 1: a man can leave, A man can't get up and
Speaker 1: leave physically, they can do that. A woman can't leave.
Speaker 1: We got to have it, Yeah, we have to have it,
Speaker 1: so it's easier for them to believe. I think what
Speaker 1: you really need to do is try to work on
Speaker 1: these relationships first before you jump up and try to
Speaker 1: have a baby. Even when you do get married. You know,
Speaker 1: why don't you enjoy each other for a while before
Speaker 1: you get married and automatically start spending out these kids,
Speaker 1: because that is a big stressful you know, that's a
Speaker 1: big undertaking raising the child when you want to raise
Speaker 1: the child. You know, I'm very um, I'm very uh
Speaker 1: pro equipping. I'm very pro on that's fine. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll suck you up and I'm very pro pop up
Speaker 1: at the school type thing. Like to be a scary,
Speaker 1: unpredictable parents. What will keep these kids a little bit
Speaker 1: in mind? You never know when my mama's gonna show up.
Speaker 1: My mama might be and you know, looking through the
Speaker 1: fans and me at school, fear is what raises good kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but neither one of us. I've got kids right now,
Speaker 1: I always be teasing my friends that got kids. I
Speaker 1: feel like, man, funck y'all black mama's. I can't stand
Speaker 1: y'all ass because because they only do kids what was
Speaker 1: done to them? Right, So I've okay, So I've every
Speaker 1: every nigg I haven't been with got kids, right. So
Speaker 1: I feel like when you tell a kid like you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm really disappointed in you. If your goal
Speaker 1: is to make that kid cry, you could tell them
Speaker 1: some ship like that and they're gonna cry. Like you
Speaker 1: don't have to put your hand on a little person
Speaker 1: who I have the life experiences as you do as
Speaker 1: an adult, and you're doing the same funked up ship.
Speaker 1: But because you're a certain age is okay, But you
Speaker 1: get to beat this kid because they're doing it. I
Speaker 1: don't believe in that. Well, the fact that you every man,
Speaker 1: you want to every children majority majority, majority, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't choose to live with your baby mama's in
Speaker 1: my life. So my husband did have children, they were
Speaker 1: grown when we got married. My baby daddy don't have
Speaker 1: no children. It's just he and I, so I don't
Speaker 1: have to deal with a baby mama. And the reason
Speaker 1: my husband had daughters because his wife left and she's
Speaker 1: the one who went out on a drug binge and
Speaker 1: left him with the children. So he raised three girls
Speaker 1: by itself, So that was sort of a different situation.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't want to some of them.
Speaker 1: Some guys have really great kids, a lot of them,
Speaker 1: a lot of them don't. And to be dealing with
Speaker 1: younger kids even the little ones, even these little humans
Speaker 1: that'd be badest hell sometime they need. Yeah, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a really um a spurt and really bad kids out
Speaker 1: here entitled. These kids be entitled as hell man. They
Speaker 1: think the world owed him something. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: the crazy I know. When my daughter was coming up,
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, I will not ever buy
Speaker 1: you a video game. If you want to play video games,
Speaker 1: go over when your friends houses and play, but you
Speaker 1: won't get one because A they're expensive. Be These kids
Speaker 1: lose interests in about two weeks. And see you're fucking
Speaker 1: seven years old. I want you to go outside and
Speaker 1: get some air and bounce the ball, draw a hopscotch,
Speaker 1: get the funk from because these kids are raised now
Speaker 1: and from birth, there's a camera shoved in their face
Speaker 1: from birth, like in the birthing room sometimes. And then
Speaker 1: you got parents putting a little emojis and ship on
Speaker 1: these kids. They don't need to think they're a bunny,
Speaker 1: or that they're a deer or I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Ready for a metaverse? What do you think about what's
Speaker 1: going on with Kanye What do you think about his
Speaker 1: antics with Kanye West? Well, I think it's really sad actually,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I remember the college dropout Kanye, and
Speaker 1: that's the Kanye that I really liked. But I think
Speaker 1: that everything stems back to when MS Donne passed away.
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's probably ever grieved that or
Speaker 1: had therapy for that. You know, he may have guilt.
Speaker 1: He has his mother already had money, but she surely
Speaker 1: had more money when Kanye started making money. So with
Speaker 1: that excess Kanye money, she wouldn't had all these surgeries
Speaker 1: and then subsequently bad. He may have guilt about that.
Speaker 1: So I think that he really did want a family,
Speaker 1: really did love Kim, that really wanted to be with her.
Speaker 1: He wrote a song and then he lived his song,
Speaker 1: and then you know that that you know, what do
Speaker 1: you say about and soon they get what to take?
Speaker 1: You ask for a white girl? And then what did
Speaker 1: he do? And I don't think that whether he had
Speaker 1: a white or a black, I think he just needs
Speaker 1: some therapy, some hugs. You need a hug, and that
Speaker 1: he needed to just cool out for a while, go
Speaker 1: to Cabo, relaxed, spend some of your money. Because to me,
Speaker 1: the best thing he's done since college drop out is
Speaker 1: that choir, believe it or not, his choir is bomb ass.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know they sang a DMX funeral and
Speaker 1: I cried from the moment they open their mouth. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I just think that. Um it's first of all, I'm
Speaker 1: confused about white Kim, who already had two beautiful children,
Speaker 1: had to have two more? Why did she have to happen?
Speaker 1: She can shoot like you had if y'all marriage is
Speaker 1: really she had so much money, your marriage is really
Speaker 1: feeling like that, like she just how old is the
Speaker 1: last child? So now you just had his last baby
Speaker 1: is saragate? I believe the last three of the years
Speaker 1: to be a surrogate, right. I don't think she had
Speaker 1: she don't even the last two. She was pregnant twice, y'all? Sure,
Speaker 1: I think she was pregnant once. Well, I don't really
Speaker 1: know because I don't I don't follow them like that.
Speaker 1: But um, I think there's something sinister about why have
Speaker 1: two more kids with a man who obviously has mental issues.
Speaker 1: I don't think everything is for the bag because Kim's kids,
Speaker 1: their kids, and their kids will never need a dime
Speaker 1: if they never work. They've got so much money, they're
Speaker 1: going to continue to make money, their money. I think
Speaker 1: that she did love him, but then she fell out
Speaker 1: of love because he went, you know, for the next
Speaker 1: time and they weren't always to you. I'm like indifferent
Speaker 1: because the ship he is doing to her publicly online,
Speaker 1: Like I've seen that before personally, so I know, like
Speaker 1: narcissistic behavior when the fun I see it, right. But
Speaker 1: then the other side of that, he's in the industry.
Speaker 1: The first thing he was saying about um, the oldest
Speaker 1: daughter is like, my daughter, never be a strip of
Speaker 1: my daughter, Never do this in that looks like he's
Speaker 1: concerned about his children in this industry. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And we already know the tell me no,
Speaker 1: I'm a whole conspiracy theorist shoy. So yeah, but let's
Speaker 1: let's I want to let's get back to you because
Speaker 1: I want to talk more about you. And I saw
Speaker 1: that you started at MS Wiz Club and Long Beach
Speaker 1: that's a like an old school club and Long Beach
Speaker 1: Comedy Club. And Robin Harris was your mentor. He became
Speaker 1: your mentor. What was that like and how did he
Speaker 1: change your life as far as comedy is concerned. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: there was a club in Long Beach Commiss Wiz. This
Speaker 1: since burned down, but some people do remember it. That's
Speaker 1: the first place I ever went on stage to do
Speaker 1: stand up comedy. And it wasn't because I wanted to
Speaker 1: be a comedian. I had a roommate who was dating
Speaker 1: a comedian who around the club, and he would be
Speaker 1: around the house and he thought it was and he said,
Speaker 1: if you ever want to stand up, come to my club.
Speaker 1: I'll put you on the minute you walk in. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to be no stand
Speaker 1: up comedian. But then I did start thinking about some
Speaker 1: things that happened to me that are funny, because if
Speaker 1: you know anything about my comedy, you can't quote a
Speaker 1: joke that I tell because I don't tell jokes. I
Speaker 1: tell stories because like Cosby used to do, or Richard
Speaker 1: or stuff like that. And um, I wouldn't say that
Speaker 1: Robin was my mentor. He was the first person I
Speaker 1: met on the very first day I did stand up.
Speaker 1: When I got off the stage, I met Robin here
Speaker 1: and he told me to go to the comedy at
Speaker 1: Theater that's where he hosted, and and it's sort of
Speaker 1: snowballed after that, but I would say that it was
Speaker 1: what you call it, it was like a sign. I'd
Speaker 1: say that it was a sign that I met him
Speaker 1: the first might I ever did comedy. It's just like
Speaker 1: when I got my residency in Las Vegas, George Wallace
Speaker 1: brought me out on stage. Well, George Wallace had been
Speaker 1: in Vegas for you know, twenty years and been he's
Speaker 1: like the king. A lot of faith for him to
Speaker 1: bring me out on my first night. I take that
Speaker 1: as a sign. So I wouldn't say Robin was my mentor,
Speaker 1: but he definitely was an inspiration for me. He definitely
Speaker 1: was an inspiration for me because he didn't have the
Speaker 1: Hollywood looks, he wasn't slam and yet he was still
Speaker 1: the funniest one in the room. And I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not um, a little red bone, I don't have
Speaker 1: long hair, I'm not slender anything like that. But I slay.
Speaker 1: So this is when your talent over comes your your look.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There's a bunch of ugly
Speaker 1: male comedians out there that are killers. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that we should be held to the same standard.
Speaker 1: But your your your product, your comedy should speak for itself.
Speaker 1: No matter what you look like. They've had comedians that
Speaker 1: got cerebral policy that are killers on um on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: I yeah, guys, that Robin Harris died at thirty six
Speaker 1: years old. Because we were kids, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize he was that young when he died.
Speaker 1: And I saw your your piece on it, and you
Speaker 1: were saying like, yeah, if you eat color greens and neckphones,
Speaker 1: all this ship. Everybody else had all this nice ship
Speaker 1: to say about that man. You're like, yeah, what then
Speaker 1: you being gonna happen, You're gonna have a No, it's
Speaker 1: very well. No, there was there was a place in
Speaker 1: the Long Beach that he used to like to eat
Speaker 1: like after the show. So we're talking about one o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, roused like this, you know, and uh
Speaker 1: like totally and this also you gotta remember there was
Speaker 1: no bottled water. Then, there was no veganism. Then there
Speaker 1: was no soy nothing, There was none of this back then.
Speaker 1: He just ate what we what we were brown up,
Speaker 1: you know, but it was unhealthy. You mixed some Hennessy
Speaker 1: with all that and late nights and you know you
Speaker 1: might stroke out. It was a terrible loss for the
Speaker 1: comedy community, and I do suggest everybody check out that
Speaker 1: uh Fat Tuesday p h A T not f A
Speaker 1: T p h A T Fat Tuesday documentary on Amazon
Speaker 1: Prime and to give you a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of history things for what I didn't know. They call
Speaker 1: it hip hop comedy. That's interesting, but it is, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it sort of came in the same era and
Speaker 1: everything was between the clothes and the music and the
Speaker 1: comedy all sort of like hit at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. It was very exciting. What is your
Speaker 1: take on these young comics or comedians coming up in
Speaker 1: the social media era where they just jump on go
Speaker 1: viral and then now they're instant comedian and they didn't
Speaker 1: have to get it out the mud like some of
Speaker 1: the greats that you came up with. What's your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that? Well? At first, I was extremely resentful because
Speaker 1: we have had to go through a lot to get
Speaker 1: the spot that we're in, and it seems like they
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and did videos on Instagram. Now
Speaker 1: they're booked in the same club it took me twenty
Speaker 1: years to get booked in and they're standing next to me.
Speaker 1: I was very, very resentful. And I said it. Now
Speaker 1: I have changed my mind since then slightly. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't think that everybody who's doing comedy that came from
Speaker 1: Instagram is a comedian. I do think that a lot
Speaker 1: of them have a good future at being a comedic
Speaker 1: actor or actress. I don't think that everybody has the
Speaker 1: jobs or the we're thought to do stand up comedy,
Speaker 1: even though they sell the club out. A lot of
Speaker 1: times these people from Instagram sell the club about the
Speaker 1: people come and they're disappointed because they weren't really as
Speaker 1: funny in person as they were when they had their
Speaker 1: edited content on social media. I do enjoy just hilarious.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy Country Wayne, And you know, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna stop right there because there's some others that I'm
Speaker 1: still still trying to check out. And unfortunately I can't
Speaker 1: speak on all of their comedy because I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Because we all work at the same time. Every comedian
Speaker 1: works on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday night, So how can
Speaker 1: I go see you even if we're in the same
Speaker 1: town if we're both on stage at the same time.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you're on a Sunday, if you have one
Speaker 1: show and they have two shows. You can get over
Speaker 1: to where they are and maybe catch the second show,
Speaker 1: but that's rare. I'm dying to see what be Stramone
Speaker 1: does on stage. She seems to be killing it. I'm
Speaker 1: dying to see, you know. I didn't know Country Wayne
Speaker 1: personally until we worked together, and I wanted to see
Speaker 1: what he does on stage. And now I have theeings
Speaker 1: and he's really, really, really good and very spiritual, more
Speaker 1: so than Jesus is popping. That's just about what he says.
Speaker 1: He really has his Bible with him. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: really rounded guy, doing really good with all his kids
Speaker 1: and baby Mama's. I don't think they got a word though,
Speaker 1: make a slave out of him. I wouldn't say a slave.
Speaker 1: He's a very high I probably slave, but that's what
Speaker 1: he is. So I didn't I didn't really feel it
Speaker 1: in the beginning. But I take issue with them being
Speaker 1: called comedians. I would say, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: comic actor or internet comedian or striving comedian or you
Speaker 1: know something like that, but um, you know, that's just me.
Speaker 1: They don't. Here's the other thing. They don't give a
Speaker 1: funk what I think. See. I used to give a funk,
Speaker 1: like what Paul Mooney thought of me, or what what
Speaker 1: Robin Harris thought of me, or what even d L
Speaker 1: thought of me or d Rade there. I used to
Speaker 1: give a funk. I still do, but the social media
Speaker 1: influences social media, to me, they don't care what I think.
Speaker 1: They don't give a funk about us, and that's that's
Speaker 1: sort of hurtful because you know, like that, you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't even hire women for this club. We came
Speaker 1: through the Lord, so we came through and then made
Speaker 1: the way, but they don't really give a funk about us,
Speaker 1: and so subsequently a lot of us don't give a
Speaker 1: funk about them. But I think that, you know, there
Speaker 1: are social media people out there who do look up
Speaker 1: to some of us, maybe not me, but some of us.
Speaker 1: And then that's always good because you know, we haven't
Speaker 1: been out here bust and asses for the hell of it,
Speaker 1: and not for the money, because we did comedy before
Speaker 1: there was any money. We did comedy before there was
Speaker 1: any money. I did comedy for free for years because
Speaker 1: it's in me. It's something I had to get out,
Speaker 1: it's something that it's part of me. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't think you should do comedy unless you feel like
Speaker 1: you would die if you don't do it. You feel
Speaker 1: me No, I do, I do. So let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. I signed up for a amateur comedy night
Speaker 1: here in Charlotte right before the pandemic. And then stop
Speaker 1: why because I man, and I have jokes all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm always telling jokes. I'm always making people laugh. My
Speaker 1: mom always not made up jokes, stories, stories, It's just
Speaker 1: with off the dome. I don't tell. I don't like
Speaker 1: write jokes out and be like, hey, I just you know,
Speaker 1: flew in from Vegas and boy, my arms are tired. No,
Speaker 1: none of that. Ship. It's just like I tell stories
Speaker 1: that are true, and usually it would be like ship
Speaker 1: that's dark, but I'll make it funny. Right. So I
Speaker 1: wrote some stuff about growing up with parents that are
Speaker 1: were addicted to drugs and in the eighties. You know, everybody, mama,
Speaker 1: half of us, Mama and daddy was smoking crack in
Speaker 1: the eighties, right, So yeah, So I made some jokes
Speaker 1: about it and I thought it was real funny. But
Speaker 1: then I didn't go because I didn't want to offend
Speaker 1: my family. I didn't want to fend my parents and
Speaker 1: the people who I love who the jokes were about,
Speaker 1: so I didn't tell them. So what would you say
Speaker 1: to someone who wants to use their life experience that
Speaker 1: maybe dark, but you find a way to make it humorous.
Speaker 1: How do you apply that without hurting people? Hear some
Speaker 1: people you're going to it's it's if you're married to
Speaker 1: a painter, at some time, you're gonna get some paint
Speaker 1: on you. If you're working with a sculptor, at some point,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some clay on you. If you have
Speaker 1: a comedian in your family, you're gonna probably get some
Speaker 1: you know, material that you can identify. It applies to
Speaker 1: you on stage. And even if you're in a relationship
Speaker 1: with a guy that is gonna end up on stage. Now,
Speaker 1: it's how you treat me that determines what I say
Speaker 1: on stage. If you treat me like a queen, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest talking my my man is really amazing.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I got this guy found her up.
Speaker 1: Or if you treat me like a deck then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be on stage talking about the ship you did.
Speaker 1: So that's really on them what you say. Um, you
Speaker 1: have to have a certain fucking attitude I'll talk about
Speaker 1: my daughter with my daughter backstage, I'm talking about my
Speaker 1: husband with them looking right at me. You have to
Speaker 1: have you have to be able to turn that off.
Speaker 1: And they're either gonna get with the program or they're not. Now,
Speaker 1: for a lot of seven brothers and sisters, and for
Speaker 1: a long time, they didn't. They didn't support me and
Speaker 1: what I was doing. They didn't like it. They didn't
Speaker 1: like the language that I used because you know, at
Speaker 1: this particular time, nobody in my family when one of
Speaker 1: my older brothers had a mouth like me, nobody and
Speaker 1: my mother very delicate and sedat, and she didn't support
Speaker 1: me in that either. Well fuck that and fuck you too,
Speaker 1: because this is what I'm doing. But you want to
Speaker 1: know something, that's all chance now and and and they
Speaker 1: will get on your side if you would come successful.
Speaker 1: If you don't become successful, that's when they be like,
Speaker 1: see all that ship talking ain't got you nowhere. You
Speaker 1: ain't doing it. We talk about you. It's like your
Speaker 1: story too, so I can't talk about it. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel. It's your story to tell you just and
Speaker 1: you know, of course, nobody wants to hurt people's feeling,
Speaker 1: but it's just like being at war. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: some casualties, you know, So I just, you know, I
Speaker 1: would say, if it's your truth and you feel like
Speaker 1: you need to share it because it's other people's truth,
Speaker 1: then you just go ahead and do that and deal
Speaker 1: with fallout because I feel like it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so funny ship. I mean, nothing's funny about smoking, cracking,
Speaker 1: the devastation that drugs us to the family. But you
Speaker 1: can find some ways to make that ship. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But also you have to think also about your comedy,
Speaker 1: because comedy is not exclusive to black people. So can
Speaker 1: you take that same material and do it in Can
Speaker 1: you take that same material and do it in front
Speaker 1: of a Latin audience? Can you take that material and
Speaker 1: do it in front of a gay audience? Because when
Speaker 1: you do comedy, you have to do comedy for all
Speaker 1: those people. Feel more comfortable with them, you feel more
Speaker 1: comfortable with your people. And the Latin community. I'm very
Speaker 1: into and and I really, uh really support Latin comics,
Speaker 1: and I just uh in any of the ethnicities are
Speaker 1: actually way funnier than a lot of the white comics.
Speaker 1: I see. If you go on you know, Persian Night
Speaker 1: that ship is funny too, you know, because everybody you
Speaker 1: know talking about terrorists and ship like that, and they
Speaker 1: know it, so they make fun of that, and that's funny.
Speaker 1: And you go to Latin Nite, that's hilarious. If you
Speaker 1: go to gay nights something. Because when you go do comedy,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't just go see black comics. You should go
Speaker 1: see every body so that you can sort of gauge
Speaker 1: and you know, be able to look at your audience
Speaker 1: and between the between the walk from backstage to the microphone,
Speaker 1: you should be able to read the audience just that quick.
Speaker 1: And if you're scripted you do the same comedy in
Speaker 1: Mississippi as you do in New York and you do
Speaker 1: in Chicago. That don't always work. But if you freestyle
Speaker 1: a lot, then you can adjust your ship to the
Speaker 1: audience that you're performing in front of. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Does that make sense? Like you can't go
Speaker 1: to you can't go to Chicago and talk about h
Speaker 1: C transit. You have to talk about the L train.
Speaker 1: You can't, you know, you have to talk about what's
Speaker 1: in the city. Have you ever gone on stage and bomb,
Speaker 1: like totally bomb, like damn, I've never been booed in
Speaker 1: my life. Whether somebody wants to believe it or not,
Speaker 1: it's the true. But I've got the silent treatment before.
Speaker 1: You know, one of these, you know, one of those,
Speaker 1: but that was really only after doing like a big
Speaker 1: show with like thirteen or fourteen comics on and you're
Speaker 1: like number thirteen and they've been sitting there watching comedy
Speaker 1: for like four hours, like we're tired, you know, But
Speaker 1: I don't. Really, I don't. I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of bad experiences, but I've had something. But
Speaker 1: I've never been booed ever. Do you think that's the
Speaker 1: writer passage for a comedian or a comic to just
Speaker 1: have one, at least one show where you funked up?
Speaker 1: Kind of it teaches you some humility. I think you
Speaker 1: better stay humble at the gate period, because the one
Speaker 1: of the worst shows I've ever done was trying to
Speaker 1: be cocky and be like, let me show you how
Speaker 1: to step mother's like yeah, and then you go out
Speaker 1: and then it don't work for you because God will
Speaker 1: put this hand down fucking fuck your shut up. I
Speaker 1: tried to never be like, you know, like I might
Speaker 1: be happy after I've done something really great. But I
Speaker 1: don't go back and say I killed that ship. I
Speaker 1: I just don't do that. That's just me because it's
Speaker 1: an unattractive trait. Cockiness is an unattractive trait that makes
Speaker 1: me sick of people. You know, you let a comedy
Speaker 1: speak for itself. I do. That's just me, though. You know,
Speaker 1: the people who probably should be listening to the podcast
Speaker 1: and getting the gyms may not be that. You know.
Speaker 1: That's just like when when when grown folks have a
Speaker 1: discussion about gun play and stuff in the streets. Well,
Speaker 1: the people with the guns and in the streets ain't
Speaker 1: sitting home looking at that podcast, so they didn't get
Speaker 1: the memo. You know. But I hope that whoever's watching
Speaker 1: and listening does at least consider some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that we're talking about. You know, you gotta make your
Speaker 1: decision for yourself, right, I think I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: do girl. You won't never tell me that, okay, but
Speaker 1: but I just always in. But what is the what
Speaker 1: is the goal? What do you want? What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Want to make people laugh forever forever? Comedians
Speaker 1: don't retire, they die, right, you know that, right? I
Speaker 1: didn't retire here didn't retired. Paul Mooney didn't retire that,
Speaker 1: Gregory didn't retire. Jump Rivers didn't retire. We don't retire.
Speaker 1: We're work until we die. But I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: If I could spend my life making people laugh, I'm
Speaker 1: okay with it. What if somebody offered you a broadcast
Speaker 1: uh position, because you're doing broadcasting, now, what would you
Speaker 1: go into that? Days more? Absolutely? Absolutely, just if I
Speaker 1: could just bring joy to people, that's all it. It
Speaker 1: ain't even about money for me. I just want to
Speaker 1: see people smiling, man, I like, and I just want
Speaker 1: to use my truth to do that. You won't be
Speaker 1: able to see him smiling on big stage. Get to
Speaker 1: hear them, because when I'm when I'm in the dressing
Speaker 1: room and I like, if I'm headlining and I got
Speaker 1: my host and my feature out, I'm not really listening
Speaker 1: to the material too much. I'm listening to see if
Speaker 1: I hear the laughs. Are they laughing at this motherfucker?
Speaker 1: That's That's what I wanted up And then also I
Speaker 1: do try to listen. You know, some rooms you can't
Speaker 1: hear the stage, and other rooms have the monitory to
Speaker 1: watch the show. It's always helpful to watch the comments
Speaker 1: ahead of you because you may have material that's similar
Speaker 1: to theirs. You don't want to go out looking like
Speaker 1: a hack because that's subject has already been preached. So
Speaker 1: then maybe you want to change your set and not
Speaker 1: do that and do this instead. Has already talked about that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It pays to listen. And
Speaker 1: then when when I see younger comments coming there, they
Speaker 1: like they want to go do multiple rooms in a night.
Speaker 1: Well that's fine, but you are on a show with
Speaker 1: like George Lopez, you should probably stay and watch the
Speaker 1: person who's in the position trying to get to to
Speaker 1: see what they did. Why did this joke? Were good
Speaker 1: in this room? What does this room like? Do they like?
Speaker 1: Are they couples? Are they single? Are they black? Are
Speaker 1: they white? Are they drinking? Are they sober? Are they happy?
Speaker 1: Are they grumpy? You know all that shi It has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with what you do and how
Speaker 1: you're gonna be received. So you will will have like
Speaker 1: like what you're gonna say playing and then switch it
Speaker 1: up right before you go out there. I really only
Speaker 1: have about four things planned, and I have thirty years
Speaker 1: worth of material in my head though, See, so I
Speaker 1: can pute from anything. You know, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about pregnancy, I got that. I want to talk about divorce.
Speaker 1: I got that. I wanna talk about crack. I got
Speaker 1: that I want to talk about wait, I got that.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to talk about interracial relationships. I
Speaker 1: got that. I don't even see my man. Somebody in
Speaker 1: my team is married to a white woman. I talked
Speaker 1: about him every single day. I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to fund y'all live together. You got the black
Speaker 1: guy going through the house turning to heat up. You
Speaker 1: got the white girl going through the house turn to
Speaker 1: get down. Our fucking day, the thermostat is up there,
Speaker 1: down I'm so cold. Yeah, but I'm burning up. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm seazing. But as I didn't here, I know you
Speaker 1: you on the Cat Williams um shore and he named
Speaker 1: it world War three? War three right now. Cat Williams
Speaker 1: is one of the most funniest, but he's also like
Speaker 1: one of the more to me, one of more conscious
Speaker 1: entertainers in the industry. Why why why is it world
Speaker 1: War three? Does he think that we're about to go
Speaker 1: to war? No, we're at war. If you haven't noticed, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're dealing with chemical warfare, spiritual warfare. We're dealing with
Speaker 1: spiritual warfare, racial warfare. We're in it now. We're it's
Speaker 1: not coming. We're in it now. You know, we're at war.
Speaker 1: They're killing our brothers in the street with no repercussion.
Speaker 1: If you look at the poor the girl Shakari that
Speaker 1: got busted for smoking weed for the Olympics right after
Speaker 1: her mother died. But now they got a white girl
Speaker 1: that testifies mother, but they're gonna let her. That's people.
Speaker 1: Black people are definitely not at the bottom at the
Speaker 1: Automa to totem pole. These motherfucker's work around the clock
Speaker 1: to figure out ways to funk us up, and we
Speaker 1: just be chilling. I'm just trying to figure out, like
Speaker 1: what's the what's the attack? Like why, Like black people
Speaker 1: got to realize like we're super special, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I don't know it's wicked. Well, you
Speaker 1: would need to get a white politician on or somebody
Speaker 1: white to answer that question. I think that a lot
Speaker 1: of it has to do with jealousy. White men are
Speaker 1: obviously jealous of Black men and their sexual progress. You know,
Speaker 1: you know anything, all right, Okay, It may not be
Speaker 1: in public, it might be behind the building. But you know,
Speaker 1: very few white men can pull her sister away from
Speaker 1: a brother, But but a brother can pull your bit
Speaker 1: any day. Because we're superior. They're very upset the fact
Speaker 1: that we're the first people that we're superior. We can
Speaker 1: do different things to our hair. And there I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me touch it? Can I touch it? And then
Speaker 1: they were and then they pat you on the head
Speaker 1: like a dog or running hand over your head like this.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna get sucked up. You know that we're
Speaker 1: super talented. Anything we put our mind to, we can excel.
Speaker 1: Uh King Richard the movie Venus and Serena. They didn't
Speaker 1: see black girls from Compton coming over. They came dominated
Speaker 1: at the top of the game Tiger Woods. They didn't
Speaker 1: think that nigger was gonna be on the golf course
Speaker 1: doing it like that. But look what happened. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we got some swimmers, We got you know,
Speaker 1: anything we do, we excel in. And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of rage and jealousy comes behind that from from
Speaker 1: maybe the white men in power, because that's that is
Speaker 1: their power, being in power. Money is the power play
Speaker 1: that they got because we already know black like black
Speaker 1: women like we may not we'd be on the forefront,
Speaker 1: you know, but what white women may be in the
Speaker 1: bedrooms and they pillow talking what they meant and telling
Speaker 1: them what then to do like the women the men
Speaker 1: to me and do what I tried. Listen, I tried
Speaker 1: that ship one time. I'm not doing that no more.
Speaker 1: My eyebrows burnt right off my face at her. I'll
Speaker 1: do it once a year for a birthday or something.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. My ass is as it was
Speaker 1: when I was. Now, you said you would take a
Speaker 1: COVID test in that ass this morning. Now I saw, yeah,
Speaker 1: But look at that. That's that's that's why I'm is
Speaker 1: very tiny. That's nothing but like that as opposed to
Speaker 1: something that's like this. Yeah, but if you could do it,
Speaker 1: then you got skills. Because I I wish I could
Speaker 1: do it, but I can't do it. No. I had
Speaker 1: a friend who said she right. I got a girlfriend
Speaker 1: said she that ship does not feel good. It's just
Speaker 1: the act of it, the nasty ass act of it
Speaker 1: feels good to them. Yeah, I don't know why I
Speaker 1: need I would want to suck me in my dirty
Speaker 1: asshole and I got a fabulous pussy that's like just
Speaker 1: this far away. I feel like I'm you're a woman
Speaker 1: in that. I don't feel like anything a man does
Speaker 1: with a woman, I don't think so, because do you
Speaker 1: think about that is gay? Well, nobody asking me to
Speaker 1: stick these in? I do it, but I'm out of
Speaker 1: jig with a deal though before. But they're fucking they
Speaker 1: got something latent. I don't know. They always say, well,
Speaker 1: it's the prostrate and that's very sexual. Nigga, Really, how
Speaker 1: did you know that? I'm not into the ass flay
Speaker 1: but that's just me. Anybody or whatever you do in
Speaker 1: the bedroom and make you and your partner happy, go
Speaker 1: for it, but don't don't come at me with that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm not hold on. Let's say some bills stories so so,
Speaker 1: because we've all been a dumb bitch at least, so
Speaker 1: we have this segment on our show called Dumby Story right,
Speaker 1: and we share our stories of like making bad choices
Speaker 1: when it comes to men and relationships, or getting played
Speaker 1: by a nigga or something like that. Can you share
Speaker 1: with us a time where like a nigga played with
Speaker 1: you or you made a bad choice behind the man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a thirty year bad choice that I was
Speaker 1: working on and off for like thirty years, and and
Speaker 1: and he was the best lover I ever had. That
Speaker 1: was probably the reason. But he taught me a lot,
Speaker 1: and you know, he spoke, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: so empowering, and you know, he did a lot of
Speaker 1: really nature guy and you know, camping and all that.
Speaker 1: Ship and uh. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it took me thirty years and finally cut this motherfucker loose,
Speaker 1: you know, and never funk with him again. And I
Speaker 1: don't think I wasted my time with him, but it
Speaker 1: certainly wasn't productive, I'll say that. And it was just
Speaker 1: really a sex sex thing. And I feel like he
Speaker 1: felt freer with me than probably anybody else, and I
Speaker 1: felt free with him as well. And that was the mac.
Speaker 1: But but when you put your feet on the floor,
Speaker 1: you know, can we still get along with our feet
Speaker 1: on the floor when they're not up in the air.
Speaker 1: So it See, that's the thing I nigga play with Gemini.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fucking motherfucker Geminis. I believe that motherfucking asked Gemini.
Speaker 1: But see, ladies listening to that nigga will play with
Speaker 1: you for thirty whole years if you we'll be letting
Speaker 1: these niggas. These niggas ain't doing. But you know, everything
Speaker 1: is a learning is span. Some people learned lesson earlier.
Speaker 1: You know, you grow and mature. You know that there's
Speaker 1: people that could have pulled you when you were seventeen,
Speaker 1: that couldn't couldn't come in the room with you. Now
Speaker 1: we all sort of evolved as we get older, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And for me like I me
Speaker 1: and these younger motherfucker's girls, they liked me for some reason.
Speaker 1: I body like you. So I've often been and the
Speaker 1: guy that the guy that the gemmi excuse me, was
Speaker 1: older than me. So you know, I finally had an
Speaker 1: older guy, older man, teach me this and show me that.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I don't really
Speaker 1: like guys that are my age because they start slowing
Speaker 1: down and I'm just up. And so because I have,
Speaker 1: you know, a young spirit and I'm out of you're
Speaker 1: doing this, a lot of younger guys um that they're
Speaker 1: attracting to me. So uh, you know, we we we saw,
Speaker 1: we saw that expanty, that savage expanty. Shoot yes, man,
Speaker 1: that was a business. Still, Uh, I wouldn't have done
Speaker 1: it for like Rainbow, you line, excuse me, but it
Speaker 1: was Rihanna, So I feel like I put some legitimacy
Speaker 1: to it or else I would have never because I
Speaker 1: have four brothers and they followed me on Instagram. I
Speaker 1: don't want to put my ass up there for my
Speaker 1: brother to see. I wish I could have blocked them,
Speaker 1: but it paid very well. And this is Rihanna and
Speaker 1: this is Lara, and I tried to do it with
Speaker 1: some class and some style. I even shot uh six
Speaker 1: page red for Penthouse, but I didn't bust it open
Speaker 1: like that? Was that a misconception about? Because I mean,
Speaker 1: based on your comedy content, like people would think that
Speaker 1: you're busting wide open, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that is and we know you don't like hugging strangers, right,
Speaker 1: So what's the what's the misconception about? Well, no, I
Speaker 1: love hugging strangers. You know, I love hugging people. I
Speaker 1: have severe allergies, though, and I'm allergic to some people's
Speaker 1: perfume or the makeup. And they kissed me or hugged me,
Speaker 1: then twenty minutes after they leave. I'm starting to wheeze
Speaker 1: and my eyes are starting to sweat swell up, and
Speaker 1: I have to put an epipin in my leg. I
Speaker 1: started doing stopped doing that before quarantine started, just because
Speaker 1: you know, twice a year, I would have a horrible
Speaker 1: for the allergic reaction and then I have to go
Speaker 1: to the hospital if I'm not around my epipin, And
Speaker 1: then they don't know that I have done shows with
Speaker 1: my eyes swollen shut before and I still did the show.
Speaker 1: I didn't cancel, and then I took it off and
Speaker 1: showed the people so they didn't think I was just
Speaker 1: trying to be cool and were my shades for the
Speaker 1: whole show. I let him know that I'm here for you,
Speaker 1: doing the show for you because you paid to see me,
Speaker 1: and here I am. But I'll let you know that
Speaker 1: I'm struggling right now, but I'm still here to do that.
Speaker 1: Um uh. The meeting Greefs now, we don't do them.
Speaker 1: Also because she I was on tour with Cat fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago. So that's why it's so wonderful for all
Speaker 1: of us to be back together again now fifteen years later. Now,
Speaker 1: when Cat used to do theaters, we would do meet
Speaker 1: and greets. But if you do a three thousand and
Speaker 1: see theater and two thousand five people want to picture,
Speaker 1: Now you're there two and a half hours after the
Speaker 1: show has ended. Security wants to go home, they want
Speaker 1: to close the play. They gotta pay extra money. And
Speaker 1: so we had to stop doing that before and it does.
Speaker 1: But now we're doing arenas and ship so we don't
Speaker 1: we don't come in contact. You know, I know you've
Speaker 1: seen the actress A J. H. A J. Johnson interview
Speaker 1: on another show and she was talking about how she
Speaker 1: did a threesome for her fiftieth birthday. So is that
Speaker 1: a misconception? We can't count on Lunell to have had
Speaker 1: done a threesome sometime in life. There that I see.
Speaker 1: I came up through the seventies. Now this was before
Speaker 1: crack and before you know, I was even out there,
Speaker 1: you know, before the AIDS epidemic even hit. You know,
Speaker 1: I've lost twenty five friends to AIDS. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not just about COVID. AIDS is still out there. Gonna
Speaker 1: Rea is still out there, her pies is still out there.
Speaker 1: You need to be safe, period. You shouldn't put nobody's
Speaker 1: raw dick in your mouth, in your ass, or your
Speaker 1: pussy until they put a ring on it and you
Speaker 1: don't lock down and said this, but even at that rate,
Speaker 1: that's what I was saying. I preach about condom six
Speaker 1: all the time on this show, but some people don't
Speaker 1: like a lot of people don't like it. They like
Speaker 1: it raw, that's it. Well, that's fine if they like
Speaker 1: taking penicell and they're like taking pills and they're like
Speaker 1: going to the doctor. Fuck raw. As much as you
Speaker 1: want good okay on me personally, I don't want to suck.
Speaker 1: All it take is one you have to trust for
Speaker 1: you went if you know what you're doing in bed,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter if you had a sock on your dick. Damn.
Speaker 1: Teach me how to do that, because I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with no. Well, it could save it.
Speaker 1: One of my friends right now, he told me that
Speaker 1: he was working with an older woman one time and
Speaker 1: she was blow drying her pussy. She was blow drying pussy, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: these young girls don't know about that. He said, her
Speaker 1: pussy was so fucking warm, and so I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I never blow dry my pussy before I sucked. Somebody
Speaker 1: now to get it, get a little hot box going on.
Speaker 1: I think that's the exception. I think that's exception, not
Speaker 1: the rule about no blow drying like she got going
Speaker 1: on down there. Yeah, to make sure she's got no
Speaker 1: extra moisture. Well if if she if you're with any man,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm a big believer that there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as vaginal dryness. I mean, if you were
Speaker 1: to write, motherfucker, pussy gonna get wet if you kiss
Speaker 1: mom somebody and they're messing with you and your pussy,
Speaker 1: don't get wet. Listen to your pussy. That's your pussy's
Speaker 1: way of saying, we don't want to him, right that
Speaker 1: part you may want to, but we don't want to
Speaker 1: listen to your pussy, lady. Right. If he got a
Speaker 1: spit started, it ain't for you. Don't spit on me,
Speaker 1: nasty motherfucker? What is that? What is that? But yeah?
Speaker 1: But but I do, I do. I do like to
Speaker 1: hug folks, and I did a lot of that, but
Speaker 1: I just can't do it no more. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you this one takeaway that our listeners can get
Speaker 1: from you about life and being a comedian and your future.
Speaker 1: Where would you get them one piece of advice being
Speaker 1: a woman, well about life, about being a comedian, because
Speaker 1: that's true different Okay, well maybe that part was with me,
Speaker 1: but whichever when you choose. Okay, Well, as far as
Speaker 1: being a comedian, I would say, don't ever ever believe
Speaker 1: your own publicity or drink the kool aid or think
Speaker 1: you're the ship, even if you are, because there's some
Speaker 1: little comedians and naxis Mississippi that could probably wipe the
Speaker 1: floor with you, and you just don't know who they are.
Speaker 1: They got comedians in Africa, they got comedians in Jamaica,
Speaker 1: they got comedians in the South. They got comedians here
Speaker 1: on the East Coast where I am. The East Coast,
Speaker 1: comedians are way more intelligent and have way more highbrow
Speaker 1: type of comedy than we do when I'm from the South.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about neck bones and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but they could be talking about Wall Street and ship
Speaker 1: that we don't even know about. So I just say,
Speaker 1: you know, like Kendrick says, sit down, bitch, be humble.
Speaker 1: You know, don't ever ever ever think that you're the ship,
Speaker 1: because there's somebody out there that is batter than you,
Speaker 1: and they're coming for your spot period. As far as
Speaker 1: life goes, I would say, just try to you know,
Speaker 1: try to be nice. But if somebody's not being nice
Speaker 1: back to you, that ass up. Don't take no ship.
Speaker 1: Offer nobody, especially racially these days, don't. If somebody rapes you,
Speaker 1: don't wait for a teen years to tell it. Tell.
Speaker 1: If somebody hurts you, don't wait to tell that. Tell
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody steals your material, tell about that.
Speaker 1: That's what these platforms are far and and and if
Speaker 1: somebody is just an asshole, you can tell that too.
Speaker 1: Because the day of not saying something about somebody who's
Speaker 1: sucked up so you don't lose your job, that ship
Speaker 1: is over. Tell the truth, get another job. Yeah, over everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm not you know, I'm not Miss Cleo.
Speaker 1: I can't be a still safer for everybody. But this
Speaker 1: is just what I find words for me. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons that I even God in comedy is just
Speaker 1: to tell to purge some stuff out of me from
Speaker 1: the comedy is my church. I don't get to go
Speaker 1: to church. I'm always lying on a Sunday and doing
Speaker 1: showing the Sunday. And I love church well. I love
Speaker 1: music mhm and some of the words because I've been
Speaker 1: doing a deep dive into this thing now and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: Jesus didn't right the Bible right, some white man did.
Speaker 1: And so we had a religion before we came over
Speaker 1: here from Africa that didn't include Christ. The blond white man.
Speaker 1: I would like to know more about, you know, the
Speaker 1: RBA that the gem and I taught me religion and
Speaker 1: some of our black ancestral stuff. You can go to church.
Speaker 1: I love church. I love the feeling. I can get
Speaker 1: the word you take from what you what you want
Speaker 1: and leave the rest. But you know, uh, everybody that
Speaker 1: dies is I go to heaven. Some people are assholes.
Speaker 1: And then oh he was a good man. No it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Uh he you know, first accepted Christ when he was said,
Speaker 1: you don't know he didn't you know, tell the fu
Speaker 1: truth about about about people and and just trying to
Speaker 1: try to be a good person. But just don't take
Speaker 1: no ship, you know, and they don't have to be.
Speaker 1: There's also a way to cuss people out without cussing too,
Speaker 1: because I have a Bachelor of Arts degree UM in
Speaker 1: English literature from cal State Hayward. And people don't know that.
Speaker 1: And I can write a letter on your ass that
Speaker 1: will rip their asster shreds without using any cuss words periods.
Speaker 1: Do it and I like it. Yeah, you don't have
Speaker 1: a channel yet. Definitely relationships and relationship for me, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. I can speak Karen's language anytime she's ready.
Speaker 1: Where's the next show? Friday night in New Orleans, Saturday
Speaker 1: night in a little w y'all, New Orleans. She's gonna
Speaker 1: be at the Lakefront Arena. Just in case you didn't know,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be at tomorrow, bitch. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the World War Three Comedy Tours, a hundred city tour.
Speaker 1: We've done like maybe thirty five shows. So and I
Speaker 1: think the cat's gonna take off during the summer, and
Speaker 1: we we're booked up till May. Right now. At the
Speaker 1: end of May, we may take a little break and
Speaker 1: then do some more stuff in Now, y'all come into Charleston.
Speaker 1: I'm in Charleston, South Carolina. I'll see you if you're
Speaker 1: gonna be there. In April, I'm going to that show
Speaker 1: with some city. I don't know what city is gonna be,
Speaker 1: but just hit me in the d M S ladies
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Alright, I'm gonna I know. I got to
Speaker 1: go see the Tina play for free. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh that was good. Yeah, it was you know, anytime
Speaker 1: get to see. First of all, thank god Broadways back open.
Speaker 1: If you're into that. I love live performance period. My
Speaker 1: daughter is a dancer. If you've done your deep dive,
Speaker 1: you know about my daughter. And uh and uh so
Speaker 1: I was very tuned into the dancers and shows work
Speaker 1: their ass off because it ain't easy being an I cat.
Speaker 1: If you knows it ain't easy being an I cat.
Speaker 1: You dance shows. They don't have no slow songs that
Speaker 1: they might start slow, but it ain't like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so they really worked their ass off last night
Speaker 1: and it was good to see. I I thank you
Speaker 1: for um, you know, this opportunity. And I hope that
Speaker 1: the people who watch this do comment and trying back
Speaker 1: to you about the feedback, whether they thought it was
Speaker 1: good or bad or indifferent. And uh, I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of funks left, but I got two or three.
Speaker 1: I give a funk more people. Thanks some. I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit, but I just hope that you know, you
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed that the viewer is enjoy the podcast and
Speaker 1: support your your show. Thank you so much for that.
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Okay, at lue Nelle on Instagram. Everybody,
Speaker 1: if you watch this, hit me in the dam to
Speaker 1: tell me that you that you watched the sisters at
Speaker 1: Lunelle l U l l Okay, Oh my god, man,
Speaker 1: I love lu nell She's so dope man too. Lunelle
Speaker 1: is a damn fool. You gotta follow her on Instagram
Speaker 1: and why she's got damn lives girls, and you know,
Speaker 1: we always be talking about how we need to get
Speaker 1: on live more often, and she can do it. Lunella
Speaker 1: is sixty two. If she can do we definitely can
Speaker 1: get on there. We're gonna start this week coming in.
Speaker 1: I love her. What's her Instagram against at Lunelle at
Speaker 1: Lunella Instagram. Okay, so, and Lunelle, I hope you send
Speaker 1: us those tickets like you said, it's the World War
Speaker 1: three tour that she's gonna be on you guys, So
Speaker 1: y'all go check that out. Yeah that's dope, all right, y'all.
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