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Speaker 2: buying should be. Hello, Mark Medina, Hello Dan buyer. This

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Speaker 3: I'm jacked well, Dan Uh feeling as mutual I'm usually

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Speaker 3: uh having the honor of being able to connect with

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Speaker 3: you on the phone talking about different nowday storylines. Here

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Speaker 3: we're gonnaunpack it Eve with even more depth as well

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Speaker 3: as other sports.

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Speaker 2: This should be fun. This is what's great. You hear

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Speaker 2: Mark throughout the network. Are you still doing your Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle hit Oh yeah tonight and monsee Alanios and Steve

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Speaker 2: Hartman at four thirty. Oh wow, this is all Medina

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Speaker 2: all the time. But you know, I know you and

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Speaker 2: Bernie do your weekly hit and you guys talk a

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Speaker 2: lot about hoops. You'll talk hoops with with Steve Hartman

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Speaker 2: to ask the questions to Mark Medina that we really

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Speaker 2: Mavericks get it done in the NBA Finals? And who's

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Speaker 2: about all that, but coming up in forty five minutes,

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Speaker 2: all the questions that you wanted to know from Mark Medina.

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Speaker 2: You ready for that?

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Speaker 3: Is this hashtag Medina unplugged. Yes, there we go. They're perfect.

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Speaker 2: I had the segment called the market down for your

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Speaker 2: think I think Medina unplugged this pretty good. All right,

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Speaker 2: there's six point six seconds left in this Indiana Fever

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Speaker 2: Chicago sky game, But that's not the story. The story

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Speaker 2: again is Caitlin Clark and today we have a story

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Speaker 2: because it's against Angel Reese's Chicago Sky. And then there's

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Speaker 2: another story within this game. Now the Fever could be

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Speaker 2: a few seconds away from getting their second win of

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Speaker 2: the season. It's now seventy one sixty nine with six

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Speaker 2: point six seconds left to go. But the clips that

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Speaker 2: you're going to see after this game are the flagrant

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Speaker 2: foul or is the flagrant foul committed on Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be shown here, there, and everywhere,

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Speaker 2: And the conversation is already on social media. Mark on

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Speaker 2: the WNBA and is there a target on Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 2: You saw Caitlin Clark in person a week ago and

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that there is a target, but it's

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Speaker 3: You mentioned how I was at the Sparks Fever game

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Speaker 3: Kurt Miller was like trying to challenge the call, but

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Speaker 2: This is what it sounded like when the foul was

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Speaker 2: a seventy one seventy victory win number two for the Fever.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark eleven points, just two of nine shooting from

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Speaker 2: but the Fever get their second win. But again it's

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Speaker 2: much more bigger than the second win for the Fever.

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Speaker 2: Here's how the flagrant foul call sounded earlier in the day.

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Speaker 2: Carter and Clark. That was the call? Is that ESPN

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Speaker 2: So bo's got that? So there's the highlight on that one,

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Speaker 2: and it's a flagrant foul in the back court on

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Speaker 2: just an inbounds. You kind of laid it out. Mark.

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Speaker 2: This is to me, there's no doubt a message trying

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Speaker 2: all right, was it you know, was it a basket good?

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Speaker 2: There is no doubt there's a target on her back.

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Speaker 2: But what makes this bigger is is it fair or unfair?

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Speaker 2: Like that's life in the NBA. In terms of rookies

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Speaker 2: there's an added dynamic when you have someone like Angel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, I think you laid it out really well.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that these things have to be

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Speaker 3: mutually exclusive. I think that the WNBA and both teammates

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Speaker 3: and opponents can show appreciation for Kitlyn Clark for what

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Speaker 3: she means to the women's game and just all the

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Speaker 3: perks that come with it with increased viewership, the charter flights,

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Speaker 3: but they can also be competitors too. We want athletes

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Speaker 3: to be competitors. It's good for professional sports to have rivalries,

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Speaker 3: whether it's with specific teams, specific players. So I think, really,

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Speaker 3: when we're talking about the scrutiny with Caitlyn Clark early on,

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Speaker 3: I think the only thing that's quote unquote unfair is

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the Angel Reese sound from

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Speaker 2: And I think that there's underlying Kitlyn Clark themes in

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Speaker 2: all of this. But there is a learning pattern, a

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Speaker 2: growth pattern that Caitlin Clark is going to have to

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Speaker 2: but I actually think someone like Angel Reese is probably

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Speaker 2: someone who gathers double doubles. I think that's helped Angel

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Speaker 2: really physicality in the backcourt. Now, when you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: I think at some point her career she's going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very fair point. I think when we're

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Speaker 3: talking about physicality with Caitlin Clark, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: about how can she absorb the physicality Because she's a guard,

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Mitchel at eighteen to pace the fever today. But

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Speaker 2: here's here's where where I think people end up being

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Speaker 1: I'm a player.

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Speaker 6: I'm a basketball player. They don't give it in if

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Speaker 6: I'm a rookie. I mean, I want them to come

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Speaker 6: at me every day. I want them to come at everybody.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're not supposed to be nice to me.

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Speaker 6: I hope y'all know that they're not supposed to be

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Speaker 6: or because I'm a rookie. Like thank you, AT percented

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Speaker 6: me and AT have been cool since.

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Speaker 3: I've been really torn on this, Dan. I think that

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Speaker 3: minute's restriction, all of a sudden, it's a completely different team,

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Speaker 3: and it goes for the worst. And then Kawhi has

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Speaker 3: some more injury complications, and so I think that's the

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Speaker 3: dice scenario. You don't want to throw someone in that's

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Speaker 3: not fully healthy, and you can also disrupt team dynamics. Now,

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Speaker 3: what would be different than the Clippers example is that

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Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard is their best player. Sure, he's the number

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Speaker 3: one guy on the team. He changes how the offense

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Speaker 3: is where Porzingis is the third guy, no doubt. He

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Speaker 3: changes the offense, usually for the better, with floor spacing, passing,

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Speaker 3: additional shooting. But it still starts with Tatum and Brown,

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Speaker 3: and that's where this gets complicated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the hierarchy is there, Like if if you're you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're Derek White, you know you can shoot when

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Speaker 2: you can shoot. If you're you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: if you're Terrence Man, maybe you're not taking certain shots

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Speaker 2: now that you did in game one that you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: maybe in game two, you know, like that, Like those

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Speaker 2: are the just using as an example of guys who

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Speaker 2: are like, Okay, well they're gonna need me now, well

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Speaker 2: Coawi's back, Maybe I'm not. Maybe this isn't my shot,

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Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't. Like those are those are the questions

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Speaker 2: that you would have. I think Boston's got a clear hierarchy.

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Speaker 2: And if Porzingis is even in the middle. It's not

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Speaker 2: like Peyton Pritchard is going to completely change his game.

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Speaker 2: Just it's not going to happen. He's who he is

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Speaker 2: and that's all, you know. Bringing in Porzingis wouldn't wouldn't

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Speaker 2: change the wouldn't ruffle up the appple karts if you will.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the good thing that the Celtics have going on

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Speaker 3: is they've clearly been winning games fine without Porzingis. They

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Speaker 3: have Tatum and Brown, they have continuity, they have depth.

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Speaker 3: Derek White, as you mentioned, he's average career highs I

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Speaker 3: think in almost every statistical category this season. But on

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Speaker 3: the other hand, Dallas has I think been playing its

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Speaker 3: best basketball that ever has at this point in the season.

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Speaker 3: And that's something that's hard to stop because I think

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, game to game has its own identity.

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Speaker 3: We've seen in different series one team blow out another

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Speaker 3: team and then the script flips, so that momentum doesn't

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Speaker 3: necessarily always carry game to game. But what I do

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Speaker 3: think and carry game to game or serious series is

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Speaker 3: kind of the long term developments of just how well

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Speaker 3: the chemistry is, how well you know individual stars are

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Speaker 3: playing as well is how healthy a team is and

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Speaker 3: Dallas is as good as can be with everything.

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Speaker 2: I think the best matchup, honestly is Luca against the

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Speaker 2: Boston fans that like they.

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Speaker 3: Come about Kyrie against the Boston fans. You might be

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Speaker 3: a lighting sage again.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but if but if, if, Luke, I understand the

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Speaker 2: history and all that, but the way that Lucas spoke

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Speaker 2: to those people in the Twin Cities, my goodness. Uh

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Speaker 2: and apparently there isn't you know Minnesota and Ice when

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Speaker 2: you go to the Target Center. At least if you're

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Speaker 2: Luka danc He's Mark Medina, I'm Dan Bayer. We are

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Speaker 2: alive from the tyreq dot com studios. Let's get the

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Speaker 2: latest of what's happening on this Saturday. A little soccer,

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Speaker 2: a little dolf, and a little hoops.

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Speaker 5: My family's here, yeah, and let's start with those hoops.

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Speaker 5: Guys you were discussing. Caitlin Clark and and Chi and

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Speaker 5: her Indiana Fever pick up their first home win of

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Speaker 5: the year, so now two and eight on the season.

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Speaker 5: They beat the Chicago Sky today seventy one to seventy.

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Speaker 5: As far as the numbers, and I know Clark wuld

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Speaker 5: be the first to tell herself this this is not

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Speaker 5: where she wants to be, but certainly is continuing to progress.

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Speaker 5: Four of eleven from the field, two of nine from

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Speaker 5: three point range, eleven points to finish off the game,

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Speaker 5: eight rebounds and six assists. Major League Baseball we got

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Speaker 5: a ton of games coming up, including one our first

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Speaker 5: of the day, starting it just after three Eastern time

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Speaker 5: between the Blue Jays and the Pirates, and the Blue

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Speaker 5: Jays announcing that they're going to move their closer, Jordan

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Speaker 5: Romano to the fifteen day IL because of right elbow inflammation.

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Speaker 5: Some issues with the San Diego Padres as far as

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Speaker 5: their pitching staff is concerned, and in relation to the IL,

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Speaker 5: they have moved you darbish, their pitcher because of a

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Speaker 5: left groin strain and Joe Musgrove because of right elbow inflammation.

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Speaker 5: Both of them also are going on the fifteen day ILS.

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Speaker 5: Not the best of news days for the Padres. Here

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Speaker 5: in the NL West, NHL Rangers and Panthers, they're going

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Speaker 5: to be doing battle on the ice, said eight Eastern

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Speaker 5: this evening. It's an East Final to game six. Florida

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Speaker 5: is ahead in the best of seven series three games

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Speaker 5: to two, so they could clinch this thing tonight with

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Speaker 5: a win and move on to the Stanley Cup Final.

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Speaker 5: Third round of the RBC Canadian Open. Ryan Fox and

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Speaker 5: Robert McIntyre. They co share the lead at minus ten.

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Speaker 5: They will be the last on the tee here at

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Speaker 5: three twenty five Eastern time. So most of the golfers

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Speaker 5: have gotten on the course, some have actually already finished.

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Speaker 5: Rory McElroy is in the field and he is making

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Speaker 5: headway up the leaderboard. He is five under through nine

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Speaker 5: holes today, seven under for the tournament, three shots off

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Speaker 5: the pace. So Mark and Dan, as I get it

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Speaker 5: back to you, here comes Rory McElroy making a statement.

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Speaker 5: He's working his way up the leaderboard pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: I did a neutral yesterday. I couldn't get anything going,

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Speaker 2: and then now all of a sudden today. That's that's

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Speaker 2: what Rory does, like he maybe when the pressure is

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Speaker 2: off and it's just hey, all right, you know that

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Speaker 2: that's where he's likely gonna win his fifth major again.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna have to shoot a sixty four or sixty

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Speaker 2: five probably on Sunday, because he hasn't been the greatest

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Speaker 2: when he's been out there as a front runner as

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Speaker 2: of late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times with Rorder McElroy, he plays

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Speaker 3: his best when he previously played at his worst. Seems

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Speaker 3: like he needs those challenges to overcome to bring the

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Speaker 3: best out of him.

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Speaker 2: I usually play my worst after I play my worst.

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Speaker 2: Usually the consistency in my golf.

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Speaker 3: Game Dittoh, I play so poorly that oftentimes I don't

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Speaker 3: even truy. I haven't made it off the driving range yet.

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Speaker 3: I'm still then, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, get him up at Mark g underscore Madina. You

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Speaker 2: can find me at Dan Beyer on Fox. Hi, Brian

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Speaker 2: up at Brian Finley. Brian, are you gonna have some

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Speaker 2: questions for Mark that you always wanted to know?

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Speaker 5: And Oh, I am more than willing to include myself

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Speaker 5: in this conversation. So feel the pressure of Mark. Are

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Speaker 5: you ready for it?

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Speaker 3: I am feeling the heat. The feel the heat from

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Speaker 3: these lights and these mics.

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Speaker 2: The ex pose. Thank you very much, Brian. Let's get

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Speaker 2: a quick insight into this Lakers coaching search. Bo Benson,

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Speaker 2: resident Lakers fan here, just says, just hire JJ Reddick

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Speaker 2: and get it over with just I mean, is that

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Speaker 2: is that a fair assessment? Bo Benson?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, That's where I'm at at this point. Yeah, we

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Speaker 9: all know it's gonna happen, Like, just don't drag it out.

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Speaker 2: So is it gonna be JJ Reddick?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Bo, For what it's worth, you just got to

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Speaker 3: watch the NBA Finals, and watch once the NBA Finals

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Speaker 3: are done, I think that we'll hear news about a hire.

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Speaker 2: Took him long enough, you know it's only going to

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Speaker 2: be And by the way, the NBA Finals could go

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Speaker 2: June through June twenty third, so it could be June

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth where you're finally hiring your head coach. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Cavs haven't hired their head coach either, but they

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Speaker 2: fired JB. Bickerstaff later because they were in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers, it's been even longer for them in terms

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Speaker 2: of Chris purfetor technical producer, wants to weigh and on, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've got a question later Khan twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Oh, what are we.

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Speaker 7: Gonna do if they when they do hire JJ Reddick,

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Speaker 7: but then Bronnie James gets drafted by I don't know

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Speaker 7: the Phoenix Suns, Like is this how is this going

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Speaker 7: to split? Because clearly like JJ Redick isn't the coach

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Speaker 7: without lebron James. I would imagine, but lebron James wants

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Speaker 7: to play with Bronni I that would be this is

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Speaker 7: this is too many demands at once here and they're

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Speaker 7: splitting so wildly.

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Speaker 2: I I'm sorry to interrupt, but Chris Is brought this

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Speaker 2: into my mind. I have no ill will towards Bronni James,

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Speaker 2: and I hope that his career is amazing. But wouldn't

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Speaker 2: it be amazing is right before the Lakers are about

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Speaker 2: to pick him, some team just gives this whoever kind

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Speaker 2: of slides in and trades up, gives them a deal

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Speaker 2: that they can't refuse, just out of spite. Like that

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Speaker 2: would be amazing if that were to actually happen, Like

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Speaker 2: the Lakers are on the verge, they're about to have

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Speaker 2: the father son duo, and then here come the Washington

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Speaker 2: Wizards trading like eight second round picks and they just

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Speaker 2: slide up and grab Bronni jeans. How great would that be?

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Speaker 3: It would be fun Because as one of many in

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Speaker 3: our field we root for stories with for content. I

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Speaker 3: did present that theory to an NBA draft evaluator on

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Speaker 3: another team, and that person doesn't buy the idea that

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Speaker 3: a team's going to draft Browny with the hopes that

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Speaker 3: this convinces Lebron to come as well on a veteran's

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Speaker 3: minimum deal. They feel like there's just too many risks

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Speaker 3: with that and it's not worth that slim possibility of

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Speaker 3: Lebron joining on a huge discount, or even worth the

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Speaker 3: spite to.

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Speaker 2: That's all that I'm talking about. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: they're gonna lure Lebron just to make Lebron furious, like

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Speaker 2: that would be the only reason or to not do

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Speaker 2: the the Lakers a favor. Not that teams do the

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Speaker 2: Lakers a favor, but remember when Bill Simmons got so

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Speaker 2: mad because the Heat swing a deal to get Shabbaz

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Speaker 2: Napier's like, why is everybody helping them? And I think

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Speaker 2: it's it's one of the better moments in NBA history

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Speaker 2: because I do feel that way. I think we felt

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Speaker 2: that way with the Chiefs in the NFL draft, Like

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Speaker 2: why are the Bills trading for? Why they why they

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Speaker 2: let him get Xavier Worthy? Why are you doing deals

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Speaker 2: with the Chiefs? I feel the same way. So they

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Speaker 2: have a team actually do it out of spite would

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Speaker 2: be magnificent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. The other funny wrinkle to this

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Speaker 3: is I don't even think the Lakers are going to

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Speaker 3: maneuver to try to be in Lebron's good graces. I

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Speaker 3: don't think that they're they have any feeling that even

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Speaker 3: if Lebron opts out of his current deal, that that

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Speaker 3: means he's leaving. They just interpret that as okay, he

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Speaker 3: wants to negotiate along the contract to stay. And so

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Speaker 3: with that, I'm convinced that the Lakers will select Bronni

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Speaker 3: James only because they have the fifty fifth pick. But

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Speaker 3: it's not because this is a move to satisfy Lebron.

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Speaker 3: It is a move because it fell into their lap,

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Speaker 3: and why not. There's not too much risk in selecting

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Speaker 3: someone of Broady's caliber at number fifty five. But the

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Speaker 3: idea that they would trade up even to move up

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Speaker 3: higher in the second round, you're then giving up as

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Speaker 3: sets that then diminish your ability to have a quality

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Speaker 3: or at least better rush around Lebron. And they don't

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Speaker 3: feel like that's worth.

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Speaker 2: The marketing value would be worth him taking at fifty five. Yeah, Like, like,

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Speaker 2: listen again, if his name was Bo Benson, you're not

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Speaker 2: taking him at fifty five, Like you're not against I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying. I'm just saying if his name was Bo Benson,

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Speaker 2: like you're not taking him like you're taking him at

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Speaker 2: fifty five because he's Lebron's son, because he's I was.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say, I heard, if nothing else, that Bo did

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Speaker 3: a great job during the interview process.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, do you think that my name would pop up

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Speaker 9: there during the Taco bell commercial like yogicchuir No.

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Speaker 7: I just think it's sad in that regard, like because

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Speaker 7: Bronnie James like clearly had at least a little bit

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Speaker 7: of talent that I felt like if he went back

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Speaker 7: to college, it'd be great. But it just feels like

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Speaker 7: pushing him along to the stage that he's not ready

651
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Speaker 7: for for a bunch of teams who aren't interested in

652
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Speaker 7: him but are more interested in his father.

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Speaker 3: That it just it, it's sad.

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Speaker 7: It's sad in that regard, like like you were not

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Speaker 7: nurturing him at all.

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Speaker 2: It's just this is just bait out on a wire here. Well,

657
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Speaker 2: to Mark's case, there aren't gonna be other teams because

658
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Speaker 2: Lebron is probably going back to the Lakers, which is why,

659
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Speaker 2: like if you're JJ Reddick, like he's coming back, like

660
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Speaker 2: you're not you're not hiring JJ Reddick if Lebron isn't there, right,

661
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Speaker 2: I mean, like that's I mean, otherwise it'd be quite

662
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Speaker 2: an awkward podcast. I mean, you know, a lot to

663
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Speaker 2: talk about over the wine. But that's like, like it's

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Speaker 2: it's set up to the point like these these everything

665
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Speaker 2: seems to be in place where it's JJ Reddicks who

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Speaker 2: me the coach. To your point, Lebron will opt out,

667
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: but it'll only be a free agent to get a

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Speaker 2: new deal with the Lakers. And then when the draft

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Speaker 2: ends up happening, you know, five days after they hire

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick, then you take Ronny James, but heck, well,

671
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Speaker 2: no Bronni James is a Laker. And then we'll know

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Speaker 2: probably not Lebron's feelings because they'll be able to draft

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Speaker 2: him first before the actually free agent. So it's all

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Speaker 2: kind of set in place already, Like if they take

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Speaker 2: him at fifty five, I mean, Lebron's coming back to

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Speaker 2: the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And two other things unpack on that point when

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Speaker 3: it pertains to Browne. You know, the draft expert I

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00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: talked to, they have heard that he interviewed really well

680
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: with other teams. They express a lot of empathy as

681
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: well as admiration for the fact that he overcame the

682
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Speaker 3: cardiac arrests and was able to, you know, play basketball

683
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Speaker 3: and still be in a team concept. But the reality

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Speaker 3: is they felt like he improved as a shooter defender,

685
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Speaker 3: but he's not great at one particular skill, so that

686
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Speaker 3: makes it difficult as far as how you evaluate what

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Speaker 3: he can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, an he measured shorter, you know, like, I'm sorry,

689
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Speaker 2: any prospect that has those check marks of one year

690
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: in college needs to develop isn't as big has a

691
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Speaker 2: heart condition, does not scream second round pick, just doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He's Mark Medina. I'm Dan Byer, and that's too bad

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Speaker 2: for Bronni James. But we wish him, you know, all

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Speaker 2: the best, as he likely charged his course with the Lakers,

695
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: his dad and JJ Reddick. Shortly after the show, our

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Speaker 2: podcast will be going up. If you missed any of

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Speaker 2: Toda's show, be sure to check out the podcast. Just

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Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted. Right after we get

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Speaker 2: off the air Mark It Down what you needed to

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Speaker 2: know about Mark Medina next year on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Dan Byer, He's Mark Medina, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, NBA Insider. Who you're writing with Sports Kita,

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Speaker 2: Sports Kita. You're doing TV with CBS here in.

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Speaker 3: LA and Inspectrum Sports Nut, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Spectrum and look at that the triple threat right here,

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina. But now you're going to be in the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: We are turning uh, we're not turning the tables on

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Speaker 2: you because you're a frequent guest here on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio where we ask you questions about what's going on

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. Now, in our first ever installment of

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Speaker 2: Market Down, myself, Dan Bayer, Chris Purfett, Bo Benson, and

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Speaker 2: Brian Fenley, our crew here at Fox Sports Radio all

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Speaker 2: have questions for you about life in the NBA, and

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Speaker 2: I hope I have answers. Well, Sue, all right, do

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Speaker 2: we see any answer? Brian Fenley is eager to go.

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Speaker 2: Question number one?

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Speaker 5: Brian Fenley, Yes, Mark, is the Hulu show clipped that's

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Speaker 5: coming out? Is that going to document this upcoming next

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Speaker 5: season for the Clippers in their NBA Finals and winning

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Speaker 5: it all.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, because one I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen, and two I believe it's all about the

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Speaker 3: uh fun Donald Sterling Saga noted Clippers fan Brian Fenley,

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Speaker 3: what road trip when you were on the beat did

728
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Speaker 3: you load the most?

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Speaker 2: What one city were you like?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny. There's a there was a ranking among

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Speaker 3: certain writers on worst NBA cities, But I think it's changed.

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Speaker 3: It used to be Detroit, not because we had anything

733
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Speaker 3: that's Detroit. It's just that the airport was such a

734
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: far commute to the Palace at Auburn Hills. But save

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Speaker 3: they've gone downtown, it's been amazing. Same thing with Houston.

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Speaker 3: Downtown Houston there was not a lot of options and

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Speaker 3: the traffic was bad. Downtown's been revitalized. So as of now,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any cities I've had.

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Speaker 2: You should be a politician. Right off the I just thought, like, man,

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Speaker 2: Orlando's got a stink like right like, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: just like people go to Orlando not to see the magic,

742
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Speaker 2: they go for Disney, right Like that would be the

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Speaker 2: I would think that that would.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you say Orlando because how about this. I

745
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: was in the NBA bubble, you know, during the whole

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Speaker 3: COVID season, and that was outside of Orlando, but still

747
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: same location, same hotel from July twelfth to September ninth

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty. It's kind of sad. I know the

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Speaker 3: exact dates, but you never forget those things.

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Speaker 2: We may have more questions, Chris purfetto Benson. He does

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Speaker 2: money in on market Town.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I do with with the NFL clearly set to

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Speaker 7: overtake the the NBA and snatch the Christmas Day away

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Speaker 7: from them entirely. What what holiday does the does the

755
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 7: association look to try to take over next? Is it

756
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Speaker 7: Saint Patrick's Day?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 3: I think that the NFL has overtaken the NBA for

759
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five days out of the year,

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Speaker 3: so I'll need to sort through the counter. Oh wait,

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Speaker 3: that's every single day. So no, they have no dominance

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Speaker 3: over the NFL and anyway, no.

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Speaker 2: Holiday they can move to.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: I actually they should take over April first, because the

766
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: regular season is a joke anyway in the NBA, so

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Speaker 2: that would be fitting, like that would be their day

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Speaker 2: where they can highlight everything on April fool's day. Geez,

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Speaker 2: there it is the geez I'm on an anti rim

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Speaker 2: shot joke. Yeah, I fake lass and anti rimshot. I

771
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: want to ban from all shows. Yeah, they're lessening my jokes,

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Speaker 2: sending my jokes about I.

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Speaker 9: I have long had a conspiracy theory that Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 9: informed Lebron James and Anthony Davis that he was going

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Speaker 9: to sign with the Lakers, that he then turned around

776
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 9: and told the Clippers, Hey, I'm going to do this

777
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Speaker 9: if you don't get somebody to play with me here

778
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Speaker 9: in La with the Clippers. Uh how close am I

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Speaker 9: to being on the right track there?

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Speaker 3: Well, but the thing that humbles uh me and I

781
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: think others in the business is you truly don't know

782
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: what you don't know. So I can't confirm whether that's accurate,

783
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: but I can't also confirm it false.

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Speaker 9: That's all I mean.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I can tell you, though, Kawhi Leonard

786
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: did make it clear that his condition on coming to

787
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Speaker 3: the Clippers is that they get Paul George and so

788
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: a lot of times what Doc Rivers would say, even

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Speaker 3: in real time when they're you know, dissecting everything, was

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Speaker 3: that the Paul George Trade was also the Kawhi Leonards

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Speaker 3: signing like it was, it was packaged together.

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Speaker 2: We've got like like thirty seconds, so this has got

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Speaker 2: to be quick. What dates you in the.

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Speaker 3: Bubble July twelfth to September nine?

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Speaker 2: What day did you say? What the bleep am I

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Speaker 2: doing here? What is this?

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Speaker 3: I think I think by three weeks it happened a

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Speaker 3: lot sooner for other people.

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Speaker 2: August eleventh, maybe around that time you're just like, man,

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Speaker 2: let me just go get out of here. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I do think that there should be a documentary on

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Speaker 2: how the heck they pulled that off?

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Speaker 3: Though, yeah, oh, without a doubt. If there is time,

804
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be now. But I can share

805
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Speaker 3: another funny story and it's worth it. But what we

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Speaker 3: consider for later on.

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Speaker 2: All right, he's Mark Medina, I'm Dan Beyer. Now the

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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics. Still the Boston Celtics. That's next. Mark Medina

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Speaker 2: has already teased us he has with his bubble story.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get it before the hour's over. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get this story that Mark Medena teased last hour. He

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even tell us in the break. It's that good.

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Speaker 3: Well, how about this, I'll share some teases. It involves

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Speaker 3: Charles Barkley and Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. We'll also be giving our first NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: that we feel ever happened. And we are going to

817
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: talk a little football because one NFL assistant coach had

818
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Speaker 2: some interesting things to say this week, and I'm curious

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Speaker 2: on if he was really talking the truth and if

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Speaker 2: he's not really giving a state of the NFL. Get

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Speaker 2: market on Twitter on X however you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: calling it Twitter. I'm still just calling it Twitter, and

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Speaker 2: I was trying to keep it straight and was going

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Speaker 2: to call it X and then just fell back to Twitter. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pose a question mark Medina, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's a legitimate question. And the people in Boston

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Speaker 2: and the people in New England may not agree with this,

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Speaker 2: but I feel that it is legitimate. Are the Boston

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Speaker 2: Celtics still the Boston Celtics, meaning that brand, that history,

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Speaker 2: that logo, everything that comes with it. Are they still

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Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics? And I say that, and I felt

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Speaker 2: this way for the last few years that I actually

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: believe the second biggest brand in the NBA. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: there's no argument. The biggest brand in the NBA is

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Speaker 2: the Lakers. It is just it is. But I felt

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00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: that the second biggest brand in the NBA has been

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Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors, and their emergence over the last

845
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: decade has been amazing. At one point, twenty thirty years ago,

846
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls were their biggest brand in the NBA,

847
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: maybe for even a time with Michael Jordan, they took

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: over the mantle from the Lakers. But I do think

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Speaker 2: that there's a legitimate question about Boston, who's won just

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Speaker 2: one title since nineteen eighty six and in the last

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Speaker 2: forty years, and one in eighty four. They won in

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Speaker 2: eighty six, but would be three titles, but just one

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00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: in the last thirty seven, thirty eight years. Do you

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Speaker 2: feel that the Boston Celtics are still the Boston Celtics

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Speaker 2: with that Celtics cachet.

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Speaker 3: No end Yes, I was strongly of the mind that

857
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: they were no longer the Boston Celtics. They once were

858
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: in the nineties in the early two thousands. In the

859
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: nineties they missed the playoffs six times early two thousand

860
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 3: and four. That changed with the title in two thousand

861
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: and eight. Now, I know that that's the only title

862
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: they've won since then, but we have to keep in

863
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: mind what they've accomplished recently. They've been in the Eastern

864
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: Conference finals six of the last eight years, and now

865
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: there has been understandable criticism. Okay, when are they going

866
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: to finally knock down that wall and hoist the Larry

867
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: O'Brien Trophy. But I think that there's been understandable explanations.

868
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: They first lose to Cleveland twice because there's this player

869
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: named Lebron James that's in the way. They lose in

870
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: the bubble against Miami in the East Finals. Well, Miami,

871
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: they're a great team, they're more mature, they're more equipped

872
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: for the bubble. They made some changes some coaching changes.

873
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: They get to the finals against the Warriors. The words

874
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: are just the better team. They have Steph Curry and

875
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: rayvond Green, Kway Thompson, Jordan Poole at the time was

876
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: playing well, Andrew Wiggins. Yes, they lost to Miami last year.

877
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 3: Miami was a number eight seed, but they did force

878
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: a game seven after be down three to zero. They

879
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: lost I think the game seven because Jason Tatum got

880
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: hurt first minute of the game. And so I think

881
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: that they are a respectable team now, but I think

882
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: that during that nineties and two thousands era, yeah, they

883
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: were a joke.

884
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: I get read. I understand respectable, but there is there

885
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: is a weight that comes along with certain franchises. Dallas Cowboys,

886
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: no doubt about it, Like win or lose. Whose we

887
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: are talking about the Dallas Cowboys, And I actually think

888
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: win or lose, we are talking about the Lakers. I

889
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: mean the Lakers. You know, could put some of their

890
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: down seasons up with that, but we are still talking

891
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: about them. We are still they are still a topic

892
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: of conversation and no matter what in the end, they

893
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: still are the Lakers. And I just don't get that

894
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: same sense with the Boston Celtics. And what really dawned

895
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: on me is this. I thought about this with the

896
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: Warrior season and even two years ago when they played,

897
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: but it dawned on me when we found out that

898
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: the Mavericks and Celtics were going to face each other

899
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals. So after Dallas ends up putting

900
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, I'm saying to myself, what's the bigger draw.

901
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: Is it Boston because of that brand or is it

902
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Luca in the Dallas Mavericks. And it may be a

903
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: Luca thing and not a Mavericks thing, but I think

904
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: that's also my point about the Boston Celtics. If you

905
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: look at their history, and you look at the names

906
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: that we associated with their history, Bird Michhale, Parish, DJ Ainge,

907
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: the guys that I watched when I was growing up.

908
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: And I even think in that eight team you have

909
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen. You've got those names there.

910
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: It's no disrespect to Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown, even

911
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: though I'm about to completely disrespect them and say that

912
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: they do not have the name level and the star

913
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: power to carry that Celtics legacy. And I think that

914
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: that's a big part of it too, you have. I

915
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: would even say with Kyrie, Dallas has the two bigger

916
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: stars coming in and playing in the series, just like

917
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Golden State had the bigger stars coming in. And so

918
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Celtics are the same old Celtics,

919
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: just like I don't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers are

920
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: the same old Pittsburgh Steelers, even though everybody loves them

921
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: year after year. The Dallas Cowboys are a different animal

922
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: like that, like they just truly are. The New York

923
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: Yankees are a different animal. The Lakers are that animal.

924
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Boston Celtics are, and that

925
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: that's why I don't think they're the same old Celtics.

926
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think I agree with you completely. With

927
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals draw, what's gonna draw the casual fans

928
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: or even the devoted NBA fans. I think it starts

929
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: with Luca because he's an MVP player. He has the

930
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: international draw as well Kyrie Irving. It's the redemption story. Hey,

931
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: he's showing what he was in Cleveland. He's a more

932
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: mature leader. And also the fact that he's facing his

933
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 3: former team and Boston fans will still love to Bill him.

934
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: I think those are the two drawing cards, and then

935
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: I think third, it's going to be Boston as the brand.

936
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 3: But to your point, Boston can't compare to the Lakers,

937
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: can't compare to the Warriors as far as that brand

938
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: cach show. I would say, even though they've been more

939
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: respectable than the Knicks, you know, up until recently, with

940
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: how they've been playing, the Knicks are a bigger draw.

941
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 3: I would say, even as we're talking here, I would

942
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: still choose Celtics over Bulls as a brand and respectability post.

943
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: MJ of course, yeahs since.

944
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: Jordan retired, they missed the playoffs six straight years. Yeah,

945
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: they had the run during Derrick Rose's time, but that

946
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: came to unfortunately a halt way too early because of

947
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: his injuries. And I think they've missed the playoffs seven

948
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: times the last eight years. Last two years play in tournaments.

949
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: So I guess when I'm looking at this, they would

950
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: rank fourth among the NBA teams as far as.

951
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Best Lakers Knicks in Golden State, you would have ahead

952
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: of them.

953
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: I would have Lakers Warriors and then this yeh, and

954
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: then Boston.

955
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not in no particular order, but those three teams. Yeah,

956
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: the Bulls part of it in the nineties. That was

957
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: my point of them taking over it. And it's funny

958
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: because they do mention the lack of championships and just

959
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: the one that they have in two thousand and eight

960
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: over this you know, thirty seven, thirty eight years span.

961
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: But that's what is also so intriguing about the Dallas Cowboys,

962
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: you know. And the Celtics have an ownership group that

963
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: people in the NBA know, they know with Grauspeck they

964
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: I mean, but that's not Jerry Jones. You know, there's

965
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: not that. I remember red Auerbach sitting there with a

966
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: you know, a cigar, but you know there's that lore

967
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: of that. Plus Bird and McHale were such you know,

968
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they were such villains. It's one of my

969
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: favorite things about growing up in the nineteen eighties when

970
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: I grew up to have the NBA have not one,

971
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: but two teams that you absolutely hated, and then they

972
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: always seem to meet in the finals. It was just

973
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: it was so unique, like you hated both the Lakers

974
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: and Celtics. Like I never took sides on any of

975
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: those of those teams. But when you're talking about championships

976
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: in this Battle for eighteen, it's this Lakers Celtics rivalry.

977
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: But really, if you're talking about notoriety and where you

978
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: are as a team, I just think that the Lakers

979
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: have won like that. The Lakers are just they're more

980
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: of a brain good or bad. For some reason, they

981
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: have stayed and I think it's because of the star

982
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: power and it has to be it. It has to

983
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: be from Magic, you know, over to Kobe and Shaq,

984
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: you know, Kobe carrying it over now Lebron being there

985
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: like there's always that star player there. And again to

986
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: not disrespect Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown by completely disrespecting him.

987
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: They don't have that right now.

988
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And as you're outlining this, I just remember when

989
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: the Lakers and the Celtics were going through their rebuilding stages,

990
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: there was a lot of people in the NBA at

991
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: the time that thought, hey, Boston's making the better play

992
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: of blowing up the Big Three because they're wearing down

993
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: and just starting over and criticizing the Lakers. Okay, why

994
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: are you giving Kobe Bryant that extension after he injures

995
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: his achilles They're just going to be bad. There's no

996
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: way out of it. But when you fast forward, both

997
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: teams went through some turbulent times. Both teams collected draft

998
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 3: picks along the way. The Lakers since then used that

999
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 3: draft capital, partly to get Lebron James to then get

1000
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 3: them that championship in twenty twenty. The Celtics haven't won that,

1001
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: and I'm a firm believer. As I was talking about

1002
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: my time in the bubble, that championship in twenty twenty

1003
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 3: was real. Yes, there are some advantages of not having

1004
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: to travel, the fact that the season was hit on

1005
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 3: pause from March and then resumed in July, but the

1006
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: challenge has vastly outweighed the positives as far as just

1007
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 3: being in the bubble, the times that we're in in COVID,

1008
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: not having that release with friends and family. So that

1009
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: championship was very valid, you know.

1010
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: With Golden State in where we are with them, that's

1011
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: where I find intriguing. I thought over the you know,

1012
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: Brian earlier mentioned the Clippers and the new show that's

1013
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: coming out on FX talking about the Donald Sterling scandal.

1014
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: I found that the Clippers were going to be so

1015
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: intriguing and they have been, but in such a unique

1016
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: way because we always just looked at them as the

1017
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Clippers of old, But now when you have Steve Balmer

1018
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: as your owner, it's a different How are you going

1019
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: to transition after Lob City? And they did a heck

1020
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: of a job trying to transition, just hasn't had the

1021
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: results that they would have hoped for. But now they

1022
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: got a new arena, it's being built, that's going to

1023
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: open up, So like that story is continuing. I wonder

1024
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: about where Golden State goes and how does that continue?

1025
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: Is it just the lightning in a bottle with Steph

1026
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: in Clay and then adding Durant and Steve Kerr. But

1027
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: once Steph Curry goes by the wayside, and maybe Steve

1028
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: Kerr looks to go and, you know, work somewhere else

1029
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: or do something else, does Golden State have that ability

1030
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: to keep that brand up because it is right now,

1031
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 2: like you don't want it to go by the way

1032
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls, as you mentioned, but I think I

1033
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: think it's the second biggest brand in basketball right now,

1034
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: and I'm just curious on how the Warriors end up

1035
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: transitioning from that spot.

1036
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: It's very tough because this recently, ever since show Lakeup

1037
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: became majority owner, this is a team that cares more

1038
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: about winning than how much money it takes to spend

1039
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: to win. But the problem is with the new CBA rules,

1040
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: not only are you paying even more taxes, but the

1041
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: bigger thing is it limits your ability to actually construct

1042
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 3: a competitive roster around your star players. And so as

1043
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 3: it pertains to the Warriors, they're trying to be cost

1044
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: savvy so that they aren't restricted with moves to have

1045
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: a good roster. And so with that, I don't think

1046
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 3: they're ever going to blow it up as long as

1047
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: Steph currys on the team. They feel as long as

1048
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: he's still there and he's playing a high level, they're

1049
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 3: still going to be of the mind that we need

1050
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: to make win now moves. But they've also experienced that

1051
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: they were trying to ride two parallel tracks of being

1052
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 3: in win now mode but developing young players on the

1053
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 3: fly at the same time. Hence the two timeline approach,

1054
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 3: and they discovered that you can't have it both ways.

1055
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: You have to lean one or the other. And so

1056
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: they're in win now as long as Steff's on the team.

1057
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: But unfortunately they have to be cost conscious at the

1058
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: same time because they're so above the luxury tax threshold.

1059
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 3: And if it weren't for that roles, I think Joe

1060
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: Lacup would say, I don't care, I'll spend because I

1061
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: want to win. So it's it's challenging set of circumstances

1062
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: they'll have to face, starring with whether they keep Klay

1063
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: Thompson and if so, at what price, at what moves

1064
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: they make so that they have a better roster around

1065
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: stuff and drama.

1066
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: On I feel like we just had a high school

1067
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: conversation of who's cool and who's not cool, like in

1068
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: middle school. Like this a minute, but it's true, Like

1069
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: I just I feel that way, and it just is

1070
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: magnified by this matchup in the finals. I think more

1071
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: people are excited to see the Mavericks than they are

1072
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: the Celtics, and it's not people will cheer against the

1073
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: like Laker fans do not want the Celtics to win,

1074
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: Like there's there's no doubt about that. They are going

1075
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: to cheer against Boston. They don't want Boston to get

1076
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: eighteen first. They want to be that team and plus

1077
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: it's Boston. But what's gonna bring the fans in that

1078
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: maybe wouldn't normally watch. I don't think are the Boston Celtics.

1079
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: It's people who want to see Luca, people who want

1080
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: to see that that newer team in. They want to

1081
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: see Kyrie. Kyrie's the second biggest star in this series,

1082
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: so Boston doesn't even have one or two, and so

1083
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: I just find it interesting. Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce

1084
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: provided that for the Celtics in eight, but from nineteen

1085
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: eighty six, the last time that they won it, until

1086
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, there wasn't a ton of star power.

1087
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: You know, they're and we you know, documented the bad

1088
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: breaks of the Celtics even then from two thousand and eight,

1089
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: he had Kyrie try to you know, Isaiah Thomas had

1090
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: a nice little run, but it's still not enough to

1091
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: grab you. And for whatever reason, Jason Tatum and Jaylen

1092
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: Brown aren't doing that either.

1093
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's fascinating because Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown,

1094
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: the Celtics knew right away these are going to be

1095
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 3: special players. Yeah, and they've you know, they gone went

1096
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: through some initial growing pains, but every time there was

1097
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 3: a fork in the road about okay, should we trade

1098
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: and break up this duo, They decide to continue to

1099
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 3: lean in. And I think in fairness, they've shown that

1100
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: they like each other. They can play well together, even

1101
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: though they'll always find ways to canntinue to be efficient

1102
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: and not so bald dominant. There hasn't been like personality

1103
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: tensions and so they do have a good thing going

1104
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: with that continuity experience. It's just that at some point

1105
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: it gets frustrated for both Celtic fans as well as

1106
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: other NBA fans that they get to these finals. They

1107
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 3: show that they can be a championship contender. But we've

1108
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: been having this conversation for the most seven years now

1109
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: and it hasn't happened.

1110
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: And I'll say this, I'm not I don't live in Boston.

1111
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not from Boston, but I was there when they

1112
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: won the eight championship over the Lakers. It was it

1113
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: was crazy. I think the Patriot success is also allowed

1114
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: them to revel in that when maybe the Celtics weren't

1115
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: doing what they normally did. And then the Red Sox

1116
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: even that run you know, four oh seven, you know,

1117
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 2: in them winning the World Series. The three World Series

1118
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: that they did probably covered up some of the wards

1119
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: that the Boston Celtics had, and I just don't think

1120
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: that the brand carries as much weight across the country.

1121
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 3: As all the Lakers, even in Boston. I know because

1122
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: my mom and Steptad I live in Cape Cod. The

1123
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 3: sports dynamic for Boston sports it starts with the Red

1124
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 3: Sox probably like one, two three, and then the Patriots

1125
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: and then the Celtics. So even though the Celtics are

1126
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 3: one of the NBA's most esteemed historical franchise, even in

1127
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: their backyard, they're not the number one show in town.

1128
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: We're here in LA it's Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, and then

1129
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: Dodgers USC and everything else is just depending on how

1130
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: good they're playing.

1131
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: I feel, Lakers Dodgers toggles. That was my biggest surprise

1132
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: when I came because when I moved out here from Wisconsin,

1133
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: the Bucks were really a city team. There were Milwaukee's team.

1134
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: They weren't a great that wasn't love throughout the state,

1135
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: even though I liked the Bucks. But when it came

1136
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: out here, it was so surprised at how much it

1137
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: was just Lakers, Dodgers, Lakers, Dodgers, And you're right, you

1138
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: know about the Red Sox. I think they've taken they

1139
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: they're taking advantage of their fans because they were buying

1140
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: in being like, oh, we're the Red Sox, and now

1141
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: there's some uneasiness in Boston for their lack of success.

1142
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: He's Mark Medina, I'm Dan Byer. We are a lot

1143
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: from the tirerac dot Com studios here. On a Fox

1144
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, you talked about some of the moves that

1145
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: the Celtics made to get to this point, bringing in

1146
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum and drafting of him and Jalen Brown. What

1147
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: move ultimately was the best move that either of these

1148
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: teams that are appearing in the NBA Finals made. We'll discuss.

1149
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: He's Mark Mada, I'm Dan Byer. That's next year on

1150
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Fox Sports Saturday alongside Mark Medina. I'm

1151
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: Dan Byer, hanging out with you. NBA Finals coming up

1152
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: on Thursday. But a lot more going on, including in

1153
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: about let's say eight minutes or so, more drama on

1154
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: the heels of today's Fever Sky matchup, where Caitlin Clark

1155
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: was knocked to the ground on a hard foul late

1156
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: in the third quarter on an inbounds play, not an

1157
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: inbounds under the basket just to full court inbounds from

1158
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: the other baseline, and Kennedy Carter was the one who

1159
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: received the flagrant one foul. The clip has been making

1160
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: its way via social media. Through this medium, we can

1161
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: just tell you it was basically a hipcheck that's in

1162
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: Katelyn Clark to the floor. But you're going to be

1163
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: surprised to hear what was said after the game. We're

1164
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: going to have that for you in about eight minutes

1165
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: or so, because this Caitlin Clark story is not going away,

1166
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: and this the treatment of Caitlin Clark story is not

1167
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: going away.

1168
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 4: Mark.

1169
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 3: It's quite a tease. I want to hear the audio now.

1170
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: This is red meat here.

1171
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: Eight minutes, eight minutes away. Brian Finley will be giving

1172
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: us an update of what's happening in just a little bit.

1173
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: But I do have to pay off this tease. The

1174
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: Mavericks and Celtics got to the NBA Finals. Their paths

1175
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: were different in terms of how they got there, just

1176
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: bracket wise, but in terms of putting this team together,

1177
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: these teams together, I find it so intriguing because with

1178
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: the Mavericks, I think we look at we look at

1179
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: the PJ. Washington acquisition, and we look at the Daniel

1180
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: Gafford acquisition, and then we kind of rewind and we

1181
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: even go to last summer with Kyrie and him re

1182
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: upping with the Mavericks, which then takes us back a

1183
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: little bit more further back and goes back to the

1184
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: deal that they acquired. My point is is both of

1185
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 2: these teams have made unique deals to formulate their team

1186
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: in this way. But if you had to take one

1187
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: deal Mavericks or Celtics in how they came about and

1188
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: got to this point, what is the deal that stands

1189
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: out to you the most. And by the way, I

1190
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: am including Luca and Jason Tatum's scenarios of being drafted

1191
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: as well. We are talking everything is on the board here,

1192
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: Mark Medina.

1193
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: Dan Byer. This is the ultimate example of the butterfly

1194
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 3: effect because everything has a domino reaction. I think, no

1195
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: doubt Luka Dontrich is an MVP player, He's an international star.

1196
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: But I think if I were to rank the most

1197
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: significant as far as what tilted everything, I think it's

1198
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving trade because no doubt there's been a lot

1199
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: made about the Trey Young trade and Kyrie Irving and

1200
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: who made out better. But at the time it worked

1201
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: out well for Atlanta too. I mean, Trey Young's been

1202
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: a good player, but as far as their playoff success,

1203
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: but then they hit a brick wall and then it

1204
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 3: was about, okay, how do they build the right rash

1205
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: around them? And Luca we clearly saw that he was

1206
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 3: a special player, but he was going through some growing

1207
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: pains of finding the right co captain with you know,

1208
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: Christos Porzinglis and Jalen Brunson, as well as the right

1209
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 3: supporting cast, and it took a few attempts for the

1210
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 3: MAVs to correct it. And the Hawks case, even though

1211
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 3: they did really well with seeing Trey Young, they've gone

1212
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: through so many peaks and then dips ever since that

1213
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 3: magical playoff run in twenty twenty one, where they're now

1214
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: now at a crossroads. As well as the original people

1215
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 3: around that front office aren't there anymore. But I think

1216
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: to answer your question about ky why I think that's

1217
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: the most significant is that there was a risk involved

1218
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: with them. Kyrie Irving is a tremendous basketball player. No

1219
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: one's disputing that. It was just the only problem was

1220
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 3: prior to his time with Dallas. They're always qualifiers that

1221
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 3: came along with that first, some leadership qualities in Cleveland

1222
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: and Boston and in Brooklyn, as well as just his availability.

1223
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: He had a lot of injuries, and with Dallas, he's

1224
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: been the perfect teammate for Luca as far as his

1225
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: on court fit, the leadership dynamic because lucas stoic, Kyrie

1226
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: can exert more of his influence and Luca wants that

1227
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: because Kyrie's wanted a high level. But I think that's

1228
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 3: really been that key because they made that deal with

1229
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: some risk and also showd that they need to make

1230
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: even more moves because last year they didn't make the

1231
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: playoffs and they knew if they're going to be successful

1232
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: they have to have the right supporting cast pieces for

1233
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: Luca and Kyrie to be at their best.

1234
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a great explanation. Even though I would

1235
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: take the seventy six ers moving up to get number

1236
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: one and allowing Tatum to fall if it would have

1237
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: been Listen DeAndre Ayton, I know is taken ahead of

1238
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: Luca in that draft. It seemed like it was a

1239
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, a great fit doesn't work out, Marvin Bagley

1240
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: doesn't work out in the Sacramento and Luca's there, but

1241
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: for the to have to have the seventy six ers

1242
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: be like, we want number one and we want Markel

1243
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: Foultz and then you do that deal. And I mean,

1244
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers could have had Jason Tatum in

1245
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: their run of things like that, That's the one that

1246
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: stands out to me. And I've said in the past,

1247
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: and I've said on this network that I felt that, like,

1248
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum will always haunt the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

1249
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: And I know his crunch time numbers were not good

1250
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: this year. They were bad this year, but in years prior,

1251
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: I felt he was very clutch. He was he was

1252
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: very good, and he was a seventy six ers killer

1253
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,959
Speaker 2: in a way, and I always felt that haunted them.

1254
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: I just I feel that that move, even though they

1255
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: had a bunch of first round picks and other stuff happened.

1256
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: I feel that it's almost the seventy six ers willingness

1257
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: to be like, all right, we're going to trade up

1258
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: for number one, and then Jason Tatum not falls in

1259
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: their lap, but kind of falls in their lap. And

1260
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: I think that that set the domino effect.

1261
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, same thing with the Kings with passing

1262
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: on Luca. I know Luca always remembers that, and it's

1263
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: a sore subject for Kings fans because Marvin Pagway the

1264
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: third just wasn't the kind of impact player they had

1265
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: hoped for for the Kings. They have since rebounded and

1266
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: you know, ending that playoff drout, but if they had Luca,

1267
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be a much different story.

1268
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: Obviously I would almost by the way, not to not

1269
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: to change the rules of this, but I think that

1270
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: the Drew Holiday acquisition of not only how they as

1271
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: a Bucks fan, I just take it very personally, and

1272
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: I've said this before, it was the right move if

1273
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: Milwaukee wanted to try to make it to that next level,

1274
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: but it came at the expense of Drew Holliday, who

1275
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: now basically goes to Boston free of charge. Like to

1276
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: have that fall in your lap. I think that's another

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Speaker 2: huge one. All Right, we're gonna get the secret of

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Speaker 2: the Bubble plus some WNBA drama. But first Brian Fenley

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Speaker 2: is going to give us the latest is we're live

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Speaker 2: from the tairaq dot com studio. So what's going on? Brian?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, So what we have as far as the

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Speaker 5: WNBA is concerned. Caitlin Clark can her Indiana fever picking

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Speaker 5: up their first home win of the year as they

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Speaker 5: get past Chicago Sky earlier today seventy one to seventy.

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Speaker 5: Clark her numbers, pedestrian, and you'll continue to improve on those.

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Speaker 5: Four of eleven from the field, two of nine from

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Speaker 5: three point range, eleven points, eight rebound, six assists, good

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Speaker 5: enough for the win. We do have our first Major

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Speaker 5: League Baseball game up and running on this busy Saturday,

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Speaker 5: and it's the Pirates are the three to nothing lead

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Speaker 5: against the Toronto Blue Jays in Toronto. In the second inning,

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Speaker 5: Pirates with one out, have a runner on first. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's the second inning here, looking to add on to

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Speaker 5: their scoring. And speaking of the Blue Jays there and

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Speaker 5: moving their closer, Jordan Romano. They have to the fifteen

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Speaker 5: day IL because of right elbow inflammation. San Diego Padres

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Speaker 5: had to do that as well. A couple of their

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Speaker 5: key pitchers are going to be out for some time.

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Speaker 5: You Darbish left groin strain and Joel muscrove right elbow inflammation.

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Speaker 5: They're both going on the fifteen day IL. NHL Rangers

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Speaker 5: and Panthers. It's a big game six tonight out East.

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Speaker 5: It's a Eastern final and it's tonight at eight. Eastern

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01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 5: Florida is ahead in the best of seven series three

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Speaker 5: games to two, So the question is can the Rangers

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Speaker 5: force a game seven. As we look at what's going

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Speaker 5: on in the PGA two or third round of the

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 5: RBC Canadian Open and Rory McElroy forcing the issue and

1308
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 5: his climb up the leader board, he's two shots off

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 5: the pace, has moved up twenty seven spots today. He

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Speaker 5: is in solo third and eight under. That's yeah, two

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Speaker 5: shots off the pace. Ryan Fox and Robert McIntyre are

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Speaker 5: tight for first. Both haven't even teed off yet. They

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 5: are moments away from doing just that. But as far

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Speaker 5: as Rory on his day six hundred through sixteen holes,

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01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 5: he is on a tear. Tommy Fleetwood part of a

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01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 5: tie for fourth, a four way tie for fourth there

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01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 5: within three shots. Elsewhere in the sporting universe, we do

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 5: know that the Champions League title is is being chased

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 5: after right down between Real Madrid and Dortmund, and as

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Speaker 5: of right now in the first half, there is no

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Speaker 5: score between those two. With that, let's get it back

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Speaker 5: to two guys. You put them on the court and

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Speaker 5: they're scoring in bunches. It's Dan Byer. It's Mark Medina

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Speaker 5: at True Star.

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Speaker 2: You just heard my computer make a sound because we

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Speaker 2: were listening in the last commercial break to all of

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Speaker 2: the WNBA sound that has been flying around. Do we

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01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: have it yet?

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Speaker 4: Bau?

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Speaker 2: Are we good? All right? I just because this stuff

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01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: is just coming in, and I know Brian you've heard

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Speaker 2: of it as well. He's Mark Medina. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Sunday. You heard Brian say, Fever beat

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01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 2: the Sky. Today we talked about the flagrant one follow

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: that was committed on Caitlyn Clark by Kennedy Carter. Bo

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Speaker 2: you've Borah, Chris, whichever one of you have got the

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: audio in front of you. Okay, Chris, you've got it.

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Speaker 2: What do we got here? Do we got Kennedy Carter

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: talking about Caitlin Clark. That's all right. This is what

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01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: Kennedy Carter, the guard for the Chicago Sky who committed

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Speaker 2: that flagrant one, had to say after today's game against

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever played before.

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Speaker 1: Bumping in with Caitlyn.

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Speaker 5: It seemed like she she turned to you a little.

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01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: Bit after the fever, Kalyn Clark questions, did she say

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Speaker 1: anything to you?

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01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 9: I don't know what she said.

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Speaker 5: What'd you say to her?

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Speaker 7: I didn't say any.

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01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: And that that's enough. Was Teresa Weatherspoon, the coach of

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Sky telling the reporter to stop asking questions,

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01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: which I've seen that in college. I haven't seen that

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Speaker 2: in the pros where they're like, I mean, in any

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Speaker 2: I've never seen. Usually head coaches and players aren't on

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Speaker 2: the the dais at a podium anyway.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: In the professional level, coach comes out and speaks, and

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 2: the players come out and speak. But man, they just there.

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 2: There is for some reason, the rest of the WNBA

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Speaker 2: just doesn't like Kitlyn Clark and they even want to

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: answer questions about it. Once she made the play that

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01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: everybody is absolutely talking about. There's no context to it.

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Speaker 2: You can't even defend yourself for it. I find that

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Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I've been to many NBA postgame interviews in which, you know,

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Speaker 3: we were asking about a certain scuffle or scrum and

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Speaker 3: players to not want to talk about that specific opponent,

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 3: So you know, this is what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: As the coach ever come in and said, oh, you

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Speaker 2: can't talk about this.

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Speaker 3: No, no, not the pro level. But what I'm saying is,

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Speaker 3: I've I've seen a witness player saying no, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to talk about that, about the opposing player and

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Speaker 3: our scuffle. So this is what professional sports is all about.

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Speaker 3: It's fun.

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Speaker 2: It sounds again. I don't think that I don't think

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Speaker 2: that they need to treat Caitlin Clark with kid gloves.

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: And I think that Caitlin Clark does need to, you know,

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01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: get stronger throughout her WNBA career. Not that that would

1380
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: have stopped her from being hip checked in the back

1381
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: court of the game, which seemed like an unnecessary foul.

1382
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: But you know, I saw somebody tweet on Twitter like,

1383
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, the Las Vegas Aces had to get their

1384
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: whole team around to try to convince people to that

1385
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: they aren't hating on Caitlin Clark. But this is a

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01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: real thing. I don't think it's It stinks right now

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: for Caitlin Clark, just like it probably stung for Michael

1388
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 2: Jordan when he was early in the league and Lebron

1389
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: James and even going through some of those you know,

1390
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: bumps in the road that maybe Lebron didn't really have

1391
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: many bumps in the road to deal with. But we're

1392
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 2: gonna look back at this and be like, yeah, I

1393
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: remember what they did to Caitlyn Clark. But like in

1394
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 2: the moment, it's just amazing to see how people just

1395
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: don't care and that they just want nothing in WNBA

1396
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: players don't want anything to do with This is such

1397
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: a crazy, crazy story because it does not end. It

1398
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: is not ending.

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Speaker 3: And Dan, how about this favorite coach Chrissy Sides was

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01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 3: lamenting that Caitlyn Clark continues to get foul, fouled hard

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01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: and not get enough trips to for a line. So

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 3: as a result the fever, they're gonna be submitting plays

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01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 3: to the league office to review. That sounds like an

1404
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 3: NBA parallel too.

1405
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: That does. But it's usually not for your for your

1406
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: point guard, right, It's usually for your you know, Giannastet

1407
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 2: kom Po, Shaquille O'Neal, Lebron James, like physically dominant athlete

1408
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: that nobody else can seem to guard, and so they're

1409
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 2: they're being you know, refed unfairly. You feel not in

1410
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: this case where it seems like people are taking blatant,

1411
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: cheap shots at Caitlin Clark.

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01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: And this is usually done in between playoff games, not

1413
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 3: the first two weeks of the regular season. So what

1414
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm begetting at Dana is I'm loving this heated competition,

1415
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 3: the back and forth of WNBA. It's a sign me up.

1416
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: This is this is crazy. I I actually think it's

1417
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: really good. I know it stinks for Kitlyn Clark now,

1418
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: and I think that she's you know, done fine in

1419
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 2: handling it. And I don't I you know, I don't.

1420
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of what Angel Reese does is

1421
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: because of Kitlyn Clark. And I don't think that Angel

1422
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: Reese as a standalone would be as popular without Caitlin

1423
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: Clark being that foil being that, you know, the opposite.

1424
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: I think that that's what really draws because of the

1425
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: history that they had in the championship game that you

1426
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: can't see me and then now this but it's just

1427
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: it all goes back to Caitlin Clark and again for

1428
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: people to deny that and to say that, geez, we

1429
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: should have been you know, these other players should be

1430
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: getting their flowers. Sorry, she's Hayley's comment. Yeah, you know,

1431
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: like and and I don't mind that this stuff is

1432
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: going on. It can as us continue to talk about it.

1433
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: It stinks for her, but it's nothing out of the

1434
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: realm of possibilities that we've seen to your point in

1435
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: the past. It's just amazing that this keeps on going

1436
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: and going. After a game again where she just had

1437
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: eleven points.

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01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and look, you know, I think that

1439
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 3: some of the criticism scrutiny has been over the top

1440
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 3: when it comes to anything that has sex overtones or

1441
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 3: you know, any commentary that, oh, Kaitlyn Clark's already a

1442
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 3: bus like that's overreactionary. But when it comes to the

1443
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 3: heat of competition and rivalries among players, I think all

1444
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 3: that's great for the league. I mean, that's what professional

1445
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: sports is all about. And I think the other good

1446
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 3: thing is Kaitlyn Clark. We clearly saw that there's frustration,

1447
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 3: but her postgame comments suggested that she's going to try

1448
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: to rise above it. She's going to try to work

1449
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: her way around it. She lamented about the idea that

1450
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: if she reacts, there'd be more consequence than a role player,

1451
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 3: you know, gain in trouble. But she seems to have

1452
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 3: the mental fortitude to figure these things out.

1453
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't say she cracked a little, but there was

1454
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: you know, like a little break where she kind of,

1455
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, was like, yeah, some of the stuff's being

1456
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: you know whatever. By Man, the story that just keeps

1457
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: on giving and giving. He's Mark Medina. I'm Dan Byer. Mark.

1458
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: Mandina's going to give us a story about the NBA

1459
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 2: bubble that we've been waiting for. Plus, we will submit

1460
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: our entries for what we felt were the worst NBA

1461
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: finals ever, because I think this one's going to be

1462
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: pretty good. He's Mark Medina. I'm Dan Bayer. That's next

1463
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Saturday. All right, we're gonna weigh

1464
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: in with our worst NBA finals that we can remember

1465
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 2: or in my case, can't remember. He's Mark Medina. I'm

1466
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: Dan Byer. Mark. Where can they get all your stuff?

1467
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: So it's Fox Sports Radio. You're NBA insider, you're hanging

1468
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: out with me today. You can listen here. Where can

1469
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 2: they read your stuff? And where can they see your stuff?

1470
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Speaker 3: Okay, where can they see my stuff? As you mentioned?

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radios, Radio, TV, Bucket, CBSLA. I'll go on

1472
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: Jim Hills Show a lot during the weekends, Spectrum Sportsnet

1473
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 3: occasionally FS one, writing it's been all over the map,

1474
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 3: but mostly it's been with sports. Kita and I can't

1475
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 3: share specifics, but here's another tease. I'm also working on

1476
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 3: a book project, but I'll have some details later on.

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01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: That's for another day. You and I have to pay

1478
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: off your Bubble story involving Draymond Green and Charles Barkley.

1479
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well, here's the quick setup in the Bubble. The

1480
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,440
Speaker 3: first week that you're there, we have to be quarantined

1481
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,520
Speaker 3: in our room, and we also have to have testers

1482
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 3: come to our door every day to make sure we're

1483
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 3: negative with the COVID tests. So into that experience, I

1484
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 3: was on a zoom call during an interview when the

1485
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: health people knocked on my door to get the test,

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01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 3: and I'm having the instinctual feeling out like you don't

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01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: want to abruptly end an interview. They'll come back later, right,

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01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 3: So I don't answer the door. I finished my interview,

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01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 3: I get a note from you know, people in the

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 3: Bubble the League saying, hey, when they knock on your door,

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: you got to answer it no matter what. So the

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01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 3: next day I'm doing an interview with Draymond Green about

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01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,959
Speaker 3: how he's going to be doing some work with TNT.

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01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the healthcare people knock on the door,

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01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: and so I have to tell Draymond Hey, the healthcare

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: people are calling. I got to get tested. Should I

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: call you back or what do you think?

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: Like?

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01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 3: No, no, just stay on the line. I'll keep talking.

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 3: So I answered the door and they had knocked on

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: the door as I was asking him about what's the

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01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 3: dynamic going to be like with you and Charles Barkley,

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 3: because you guys had some back and forth trash talking,

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 3: there were some personal insults. So when I answered the

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01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: door to get tested, I had Draymond Green on speaker

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01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 3: front with my tape recorder while I'm getting the COVID

1507
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 3: nose swab, and so I'm hearing Draymond Green, and the

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01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 3: healthcare workers are hearing this too. They're hearing Draymond Green

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 3: just randomly talk trash about Charles Barklay while they're giving

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: me the nose swab to make sure I don't have COVID.

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 2: How long did it take.

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01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: The COVID test was like ten seconds. They did the

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 3: whole you know, cute.

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01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: Time lasted like three minutes, like if he had three

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01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: minutes of material to lay in the Barkley that would

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01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: also have been bro.

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 3: He had three minutes of material. They only heard about

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01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: twenty seconds material of Oh I don't care about or

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01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 3: if Charles likes working with me or not. I could

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 3: care less whatever. It was really surreal. There's like, is

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 3: that Draymond on the phone. It's like, yes, tim On

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01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 3: talking about Barkley.

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: Yes, amazing. There's got to be a lot of bubble

1524
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 2: is the story? The book about bubble stories?

1525
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 4: Now?

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01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 3: Ben Golliver from the Washington Post had a great book

1527
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 3: about the bubble experience. This book project that I'm contributing to,

1528
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm not writing. I'm just harder. It's about something else

1529
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 3: involving in the NBA. But it'll be captivating. I'll share

1530
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 3: more details once I can.

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: Maybe FX will turn it into a TV show. Who knows?

1532
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: All right, all right, your worst NBA Finals? As we

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01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 2: go around the room in giving our nominee for our

1534
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: worst NBA Finals that we can, as I said, remember

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01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: or really don't remember.

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01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: I thought that was in two thousand and seven when

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs played the Cleveland Cavaliers. And to

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01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 3: be clear, here there are some captivating storylines. It's Lebron

1539
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 3: James's first NBA Finals, we see that he has plenty

1540
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 3: of work to do. It's the San Antonio Spurs, and

1541
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: they're excellent with Tim Dunkan, Monu GENOBOI, Tony Parker, but

1542
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: wasn't fun to want It was a four It went

1543
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: four games. The Spurs completely outplay the Cavaliers. And so

1544
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: when we're talking about professional sports, it's in the entertainment business.

1545
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 3: While we can appreciate, you know, a team's excellence, you

1546
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 3: also want to be entertained. And that wasn't entertaining whatsoever.

1547
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: I covered that NBA Finals and Game two was on

1548
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: a Sunday night, and it was a blowout, and I

1549
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 2: remember just spending I don't know, the entire fourth quarter

1550
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: on my phone, playing playing whatever game was on my

1551
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: Verizon phone at the time, a bubble Burst or whatever

1552
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 2: it was. I just it was so boring, and I remember,

1553
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: I remember this story, and this is how I knew

1554
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: the Cavs weren't going to win. Back then, the the

1555
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: format was two in San Antonio, three in Cleveland, but

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: the days were different, so it was Thursday Sunday and

1557
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: then you had a quick turnaround to Tuesday. But you traveled.

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: You traveled between Sunday and two day to Cleveland. They

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 2: were blown out in game two. The Calves were I

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01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: was actually staying at the Calves hotel and I get

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01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: back to the hotel after all my media responsibilities, and

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: Damon Jones and a crew of Calves are ready to

1563
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 2: go out like they're down O two after getting blown out.

1564
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,959
Speaker 2: They're going out on a what is now a Monday

1565
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 2: morning in San Antonio, being down two in the NBA Finals,

1566
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: when you then technically have a game the next day

1567
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, I knew that it was then it was over,

1568
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 2: and it was. The Calves were competitive, uh in one

1569
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: of the games. It was electric in Game three, but yeah,

1570
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 2: it was a sweep. It was a pretty bad series,

1571
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: all right. Any other nominees bo Benzon.

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 9: Oh nine Lakers Magic should have been Lakers Calves.

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01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true, Brian Finlay.

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01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, the one NBA Finals where there's an asterix and

1575
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 5: it's the twenty twenty Lakers in.

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01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 3: The Yeah, explanation point astro.

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 7: Chriserfets oh man, Uh, I don't want to think about

1578
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 7: Spurs Pistons if i'd kindly.

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01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 2: That's a tough one for you. But I'll also say

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01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: this in talking about worst NBA not of heartbreak. I'm

1581
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 2: pretty good in going back. I'm not Steve Hartman good

1582
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: and going back and remembering. But the one finals that

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01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: always kind of trips me up a little bit is

1584
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: two thousand and three Spurs beat the Nets in six games.

1585
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 2: I don't remember a thing. I don't remember one single

1586
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 2: thing from that series, completely out of my mind. Market's

1587
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: been fun. We'll do it again sometimes.

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 3: Such a blast.

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01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: And Hartman and Monciere next year on Fox Sports Radio