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Speaker 1: the sports, stay for the stories. Indiana routes oh Lord

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Speaker 1: thirty eight three in the Rows Bowl behind Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 1: winner Fernando Mendoza three touchdown. Indian earns its first Bowl

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Speaker 1: game since nineteen ninety one. The Hoosias the advance to

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Speaker 1: face Oregon in the Simmi Finals. Heisman Trophy winner for

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Speaker 1: Nando Mendoza threw four one hundred and ninety two yards

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns while the defense held Alabama till one hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety three yards. Man, Alabama ain't got no speed.

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Speaker 1: I ain't know. Their defense looks so slow. Their skilled

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Speaker 1: everything on offense, they was moving in mud. Indiana was flying.

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Speaker 1: It was all flying and trying to take off.

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Speaker 2: What you see, man, this is kind of the same

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Speaker 2: Alabama team we've seen all year. I mean, at times

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Speaker 2: they've looked good, but they had to fight and claw

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Speaker 2: to win the Iron Bowl. They had times throughout the

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Speaker 2: season where they look terrible. This is still a team

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Speaker 2: that lost to Florida State to open the season, just

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Speaker 2: a very inconsistent team. I think Ty Simpson at times

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Speaker 2: throughout this year we've praised on this show. We praised

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Speaker 2: his play, we praised his poise at times making big throws.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the same guy today.

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Speaker 2: And you got to give a lot of credit to

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Speaker 2: Signetti the way he has Indiana playing a lot of

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Speaker 2: heart flying around the field. They're determined, they're focused. Obviously

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Speaker 2: Mendoza has to feel extremely confident with the way that

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Speaker 2: he's playing football right now. You knock off Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: you go and smack Alabama. You're just looking at this

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Speaker 2: situation like next up. They almost seem to me like

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Speaker 2: a little bit of team of a fate of destiny

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Speaker 2: to do something for them in their pro that hasn't

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Speaker 2: been done ever.

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Speaker 1: And I think.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in that locker room is bought in. And since

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Speaker 2: the Penn State game, we really haven't seen them slip

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Speaker 2: up very much. You know, No, I think I've made

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Speaker 2: a lot of noise about was Mendoza deserving of the

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Speaker 2: highst man, was he.

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Speaker 3: The best player in the country and all that.

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Speaker 2: You put that to bed and put that to rest

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Speaker 2: because you have the trophy now his is sitting in

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Speaker 2: his room or in his house or wherever it is now.

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Speaker 2: You go out and solidify it, and you know how

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Speaker 2: you solidify that running the table and going under going

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Speaker 2: undefeated and winning the national championship and doing two things

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Speaker 2: that have never really been done in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: On the football side, yeah, I agree. A Ohl Signetti

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Speaker 1: also with at Alabama. Yeah, yeah, he was an assistant

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Speaker 1: on the coach Saban so both coaches. That was in

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Speaker 1: the old Miss Georgia game. Yes, with at Alabama. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the University of Crystal Baul he was at Miami. Signetti,

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Speaker 1: he was at my he was at Alabama. Dan Lanning

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Speaker 1: he at Alabama. Right, ain't an accident, It's not an accident. Uh.

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Speaker 1: What'd you see in this game? O Joe? Alabama looked

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Speaker 1: Alabama looked awful. Other than they looked awful. What did

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, the game was the game was one

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Speaker 4: upfront defense defense Indiana. They all over the place, made

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Speaker 4: Ty Simpson uncomfortable all goddamn day long.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if.

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Speaker 4: Indiana's defensive offense is moving that fast or just Alabama's

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Speaker 4: offense and defensive players were just that slow.

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Speaker 4: See the skilled players, they weren't effective, and almost to

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Speaker 4: a point, it's like, it's Alabama.

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Speaker 5: Did they really belong here? Where they? Did they really

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Speaker 5: belong in the playoffs? To begin with? With the way

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Speaker 5: they look tonight, I mean early earlier today.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, I understand Indiana hasn't lost all season long. They

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Speaker 4: the part and letting put everybody else everybody else, I'll

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Speaker 4: notice that we are serious. What you saw last year

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Speaker 4: from us, We are the real deal. What you saw

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Speaker 4: from us during the regular season, Yes, that is us,

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Speaker 4: and we can play with the best, and they proved

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Speaker 4: today in a thrashing of Alabama. It just it almost

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Speaker 4: it was a lopside of game on It was a

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Speaker 4: lopside of games to the point where it was like,

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Speaker 4: why is Alabama even out here?

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Speaker 1: Again? With I agree, I can't recall. And I've been

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Speaker 1: watching Alabama a long time. I remember when coach Bryant

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Speaker 1: And I told y'all earlier this year, I've never seen

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Speaker 1: an Alabama team look like this team. They're big, they're slow, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're slow. Alabama. I mean, their defense, there's nothing when

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Speaker 1: You look at the wide receiver groups special. You look

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Speaker 1: tell me one thing that's special about Alabama offense, defense

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Speaker 1: a special player, that's a special unit. Nothing. Nothing jumps

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Speaker 1: and alumni boosters probably saying that we showed Wes you

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Speaker 1: to took that job at Michigan. Leave us the hell alone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was bad. It was it was. It was bad.

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Speaker 1: And I think the thing is maybe, uh, people like, well,

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Speaker 1: well man, them days. No, it's not this Alabama. Those

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Speaker 1: days are never over. Yeah, it's just like Michigan. It's

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Speaker 1: just like Ohio State. There's still a standard. They're not

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Speaker 1: Bryant's not there.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, and you know we talked about the standard,

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Speaker 4: about Alabama having a standard.

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Speaker 5: When when when when coach coach saban coast there.

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Speaker 4: Well, obviously when coch saban Coast there, n I l

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Speaker 4: wasn't wasn't active. Everyone wanted to go to Alabama. The

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Speaker 5: The running backs filtered one after the other.

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Speaker 4: They're having one of the best defensive They all filtered

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Speaker 4: one after another going into the draft, So everybody wanted

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Speaker 4: so all the players are going all over the place.

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Speaker 5: So now everybody, everybody is good.

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Speaker 4: Everybody getting those five star, four star players now, so

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Speaker 4: now coaching comes into play even that much more because

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Speaker 4: you're not getting the best of the best.

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Speaker 5: Now makes it a lot easier.

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Speaker 4: When you got the best receivers, you got the best

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Speaker 4: over the place. Every team is sprinkled in some five stars.

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Speaker 4: So now other factors coming in play when it comes

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Speaker 1: I guess you ain't looked at Ohio State when they

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Speaker 1: When they had Zeke Elliott, when they had Vernon, when

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Speaker 1: they had Denzel Ward. And what's the one that got

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Speaker 1: he went to Uh he went to Detroit the defense Arnold. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he was from Ohio State. Kudah, Yeah, there wasn't no

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Speaker 1: one getting them down stuck players. Ohio State was getting

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Speaker 1: them because remember they went defensive player Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you they with Joey, with Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 1: they went with Chase Young, they were with Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me tell you someth Let me tell you

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Speaker 4: some go ahead. I think it was in I L

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Speaker 4: back then too, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: I mean he went to the front door, going to

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Speaker 1: front door. That's totally different, all right.

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Speaker 5: You see before I can get it out.

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Speaker 2: You see it, John, Yeah, it adds for all that's

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Speaker 2: one thing that it has done is create parody and

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Speaker 2: different teams getting into the playoff absolutely what we wanted.

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Speaker 2: We were tired of seeing the same teams in every year,

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Speaker 2: same national championships, same matchups.

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Speaker 1: So Georgia Alabama, Georgia Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Clemson Alabama, you know, same thing.

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Speaker 2: So it has added to where the talent pool is

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Speaker 2: definitely spread out. Now do the players have too much

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Speaker 2: I think Sark saying this the other day is like,

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Speaker 2: we're dealing with kids who are leaving, you know, before

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Speaker 2: to their agent, and their agent may be their roommate

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Speaker 2: know what's going on. There definitely needs to be some changes,

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna take It's gonna take a guy like

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to find some rules on how to

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Speaker 3: And I will say this as well.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm gonna say it, but even though

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Speaker 2: they would have put up a better fight today than

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Speaker 2: Alabama for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you gotta do it, get in the carvers

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Speaker 1: and play somebody.

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Speaker 3: That's very true.

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Speaker 1: You just got to play somebody. And I think that

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Speaker 1: Just God, you open up a restaurant, it can be

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Speaker 1: You see what happened with Texas Tech. You gotta have

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think Oregon's got transfer also. But

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Speaker 1: the right people. Is there everybody think what a yes,

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Speaker 1: he transfers from UCLA, so you see yeah quick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, what do you think Lane Kiffin's gonna

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Speaker 2: You think he's not going to poach your quarterback from somewhere?

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Speaker 2: First and foremost have guarantee you what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you know, Johnny is about to they about

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Speaker 1: to do away with spring ball because all guys are

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Speaker 1: for me? Pretty soon it ain't gonna be no spring

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Speaker 1: ball like you and I had to spring that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I see you come summer. Don't worry aboudy.

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Speaker 2: That's where you make a lot of your development though,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's where you grow a lot as a

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Speaker 1: But see, that's the thing, Johnny, You see how you

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Speaker 4: But yeah, absolutely, not only do they have their handful

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Speaker 4: The camera pan to Hey, the camera pan to him

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Speaker 1: The job is not The job is not going what

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can, you can. You can celebrate that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get to the job if you

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Speaker 4: time we seen the basketball school dominate like this the

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Speaker 4: entirety of a season. No, we have it the entirety

436
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Speaker 4: of a season and beat everyone. I'm not sure if

437
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: a lot of people, if they were gamblers, if they

438
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 4: were better and they bet on college football, how many

439
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: people had Indiana. To be in this position throughout the season,

440
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 4: how many to be able to make it, to be undefeated,

441
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Speaker 4: to be playing in the national championship in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Before Peyton Manning got the India and they were known

443
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Speaker 1: for basketball in the Indy five hundred. Right then Peyton

444
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 1: Manning come and then all of a sudden they got

445
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: excited about football, and he gave him a reason to

446
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: be excited. Yes, but this story I U football and

447
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: to be in this position one went away from winning

448
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: a national championship and had to go through the gauntlet.

449
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: Because it's a little bit more difficult now because now

450
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Speaker 1: you have twelve teams. You have to win multiple games

451
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: order to get to a national championship. Once you win,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, you win your division. You go to your

453
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Speaker 1: championship and said division you win that and normally, up

454
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Speaker 1: until a few years ago, you played for the national championship.

455
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: You ranked one or two, you play for the national championship.

456
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: It's not like that anymore, get a bye. So you

457
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: have to win three games to win a national championship.

458
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Speaker 1: After you go through your regular season, after you get

459
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Speaker 1: to your conference championship. Now you got to win three

460
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Speaker 1: games in order to be so we'll know the real

461
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 1: it ain't no ain't no more. Man, such and such

462
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: should have been in there, and if they had been

463
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Speaker 1: in there, they had done this. Now you win three games,

464
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Speaker 1: you're the chap.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you got. You got ample opportunity, you got

466
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: ample time.

467
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Speaker 1: You get.

468
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Speaker 4: Man, it's I'm sick of this camera. You got, you

469
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 4: got ample opportunity to be able to prove yourself and

470
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Speaker 4: your worth if you make it to the playoffs and

471
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Speaker 4: you make it to the National Championship. Hey, the fact

472
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Speaker 4: that Mendoza gets to come back home and play in

473
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Speaker 4: front of his home crowd, in front of the place

474
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Speaker 4: where he's from, you know, I mean, it's gonna be dope.

475
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Speaker 4: But listen, man, those are gonna happen. Hands full, and

476
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 4: the Hurricane gonna have their hands full. I know the

477
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: pressures on Carson Back. Oh yeah, I know, I know

478
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 4: the pressure, the pressures on him and all those interceptions

479
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 4: and for one of the turn offs, you can't turn

480
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: the ball over and they have to capitalize if those

481
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: opportunities visit themselves. Defensively, you got to catch some interceptions

482
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Speaker 4: for this game.

483
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Speaker 1: Now you can't, You're gonna have to. We saw what

484
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: happened on your Mendoz who put the ball on the

485
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Speaker 1: ground twice, and they adn't get neither one of them.

486
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Speaker 1: They end up going to getting points out of both

487
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Speaker 1: of them. I didn't understand, Organ, Okay, you're already backed up.

488
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Speaker 1: You take up the layer game penalty to get backed

489
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Speaker 1: up even further. And now that you let the guy

490
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Speaker 1: come in, they only rush two guys and you let

491
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Speaker 1: one of the guy block the punt. Yeah, I'm trying

492
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: to figure out, saying, hold on, you already backed up,

493
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Speaker 1: why would you take up.

494
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Speaker 5: The layer game?

495
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Speaker 4: Mhm mm hmm.

496
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Speaker 1: This game basically once it was seven to seven, that

497
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Speaker 1: was the last time this game was interesting.

498
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Speaker 4: I thought I'm gonna be I thought I'm gonna go

499
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 4: back and forth, especially after the interception and the Oregon

500
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: and I mean Organ got the ball and they went

501
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: right down the field, right down the field at will

502
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, okay, you know what, this is gonna

503
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: be a long night, and it's gonna be a scoring

504
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: fast excuse me, back and forth. Yeah, I was fooled.

505
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 4: I was letter. I was let a straight.

506
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Speaker 1: Orgon could get any pressure on Mendoza. Mm hmm, good,

507
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: he was penn port actors Rot Becker. Uh, those guys

508
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: are Cooper Jr. I mean he was just spreading it around.

509
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Speaker 1: You get a hey, you get a catch, You get

510
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Speaker 1: a catch.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

512
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Speaker 1: Hell they bought ponds and let him catch a pass. Yes,

513
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Speaker 1: uh beautiful. You know these are the both quarterbacks in

514
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Speaker 1: this game. Medoza's projected to be number one. More it's

515
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Speaker 1: projected to number two.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I mean I can see why. Yeah, I

517
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Speaker 4: can see why. And obviously I wasn't that high on

518
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 4: Mendoza obviously because you watch you watch Indiana play, But

519
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: I didn't know he was just good. Now that the

520
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 4: spotlight is on him, it's a pressous situation and you

521
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: have to show up when it matters most, and he

522
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: played phenomenal. He played phenomenal. So obviously if he's going

523
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Speaker 4: to the Raiders based on some of the throws I

524
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Speaker 4: saw make the night, well, you put some pieces around

525
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Speaker 4: the quarterback I saw the night At the next level,

526
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Speaker 4: he gonna be all right.

527
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Speaker 1: You better put some offensive line after right. Yeah.

528
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Speaker 4: That that that that's that's part of the pieces too,

529
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Speaker 4: the most important, the most important at that You got

530
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Speaker 4: to get him a receiver, just one, just wanted to

531
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Speaker 4: go a rock bow. Is he gonna be alright?

532
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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you. Yeah, this guy, we

533
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: were hoping for what we got last and at a

534
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Speaker 1: very interesting ball game. Excuse me, got to hick him.

535
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Speaker 1: It was interesting for about seventh minutes.

536
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Speaker 4: That's about it.

537
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: Seven minutes and that was it. And it was to

538
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: blow out from there, I mean once it got to

539
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Speaker 1: the half.

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Speaker 4: Thirty five seven and a half. Yeah he hey chat

541
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: and it was thirty five seventy to half at that.

542
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: At that point I tweeted, you know, it is it

543
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: okay for me to take a nap or where Oregon

544
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: have an opportunity to come back? And obviously it's it's

545
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: college football. Anything can happen, you know, Momentum shifts, the

546
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: pendulum shifts at some point and another team catches fire.

547
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 4: And you know, at no point did Orgon threat or

548
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Speaker 4: even have a chance to actually come back in this game,

549
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, it sucks. I thought it would

550
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 4: been similar to the situation of the game last night,

551
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: who was very exciting with Hell, you didn't want to blink,

552
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: You didn't want to leave your seat to even go

553
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: to the bathroom because you might miss something. That's what

554
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 4: I thought this game would be. After the way it

555
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 4: started out, even with the interception at the beginning of

556
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: the game and seeing the organ respond and go right

557
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: down and field and score. It just didn't happen. It

558
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: just didn't happen. Indiana looked very good most of these games,

559
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Speaker 4: especially games, is this magnitude when it comes to when

560
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: teams are of equal value and quality and skill, you know,

561
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 4: the games are winning the trenches. The games are one

562
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Speaker 4: up front, and that's exactly where Indiana dominated on both

563
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Speaker 4: sides of the ball.

564
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Speaker 1: Up front.

565
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Speaker 4: And so it's gonna be a good one. It's gonna

566
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: be a good challenge for the Hurricane, It's gonna be

567
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 4: a good challenge for for Indiana, you know, because I

568
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 4: think the winner of this game is going to be

569
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Speaker 4: whoever wins the battle of the trenches and also whichever

570
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 4: quarterback makes the leaks amount of mistakes, and that's who

571
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Speaker 4: wins the game. I would love for the University of

572
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: Miami to win, but I'm also cheering for you know,

573
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Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza in Indiana because you know, he is here.

574
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Speaker 4: He's he's a hometown Florida kids, So I'm excited I'm

575
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: excited for the game.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean watching move mendoz Are. Probably I've watched

577
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Speaker 1: him a lot more down to stretch. Excuse men, Indiana

578
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: got closer and closer, and it looked like they were

579
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: gonna be on a collision course with Ohio State in

580
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship. You knew they were gonna get

581
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: into the playoffs whether they won the Big Ten Championship

582
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: or not, because they had been ranked number two for

583
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: such a long period of time. Excuse me, I'm sorry, Chad,

584
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: I got the hiccups. But with that being said, watching him,

585
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, all right, But watching him, I guess

586
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State when he really needed to make throws? Watching him,

587
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: how just blessed Alabama? How they just blessed Oregon? Yeah,

588
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: the King's better be on their best behavior. Oh Joe, Yeah,

589
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: it is on a Joe Burrow type run. You remember

590
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: what Joe Burrow did?

591
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: I like, I like the comparison. I like the comparison.

592
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: Obviously that twenty nineteen Joe Burrow was elite based on

593
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: the numbers he put up that season going to the Natty,

594
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: winning the Natty, But the numbers he put up was unbelievable.

595
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: So you understood when it's certain times you can look

596
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: at a quarterback in college jump and you can tell

597
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: if what he does in college is going to be

598
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 4: able to translate to the NFL. And you knew watching

599
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, no matter where he went, as bad as

600
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: the Bengals might have been, he gonna have success wherever

601
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Speaker 4: he goes.

602
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Speaker 1: Well, you look at what he got and they got

603
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: one of his receivers that he had in college. They

604
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: got Chase to join it. Yes, you look at Chase

605
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: had like twenty touchdown. Jefferson had like seventeen touchdown. That

606
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: had Marshall, that had thatty Us Mass, that Clyde, It

607
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: was Hilarire, that had the best offensive line in football.

608
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: They had a defense with Queen and Stingley Jr. And

609
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: all those guys. From a talent standpoint, I you doesn't

610
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: have that, now, do I think? I you? If maybe

611
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: have the coaching advantage, Yeah, yeah, I like ed Orgun

612
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: or Gion, I like him, but Signatty is upper level.

613
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: You can make a case that he and Curbage smart

614
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: and he are the best two coaches in college football.

615
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Days in that. But to do that, what he's

616
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: done with that team. I mean, look, going to Ohio

617
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: State and take it over that. Come on, you're gonna

618
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: get blue chup guys, going over to Georgia and take

619
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: it over that you're gonna get guys, go take over

620
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 1: Alabama or something. You go, bro, that's in there.

621
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Speaker 4: That's I you Yeah. Is it safe to say coaching

622
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: he's done.

623
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: He's done more with less for sure. Mario fifty ball

624
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: and if Miami and Hurricanes are headed to the National

625
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Championship thanks to a thirty one twenty seventh victory over

626
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Speaker 1: the Old miss Revs. Oh cho, I'm surprised how the

627
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: game was this close. Yes, when you possessed the ball

628
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: almost forty two minutes, the other team have it for

629
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: less than nineteen minutes. Yes, you have the you're thirteen

630
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: of twenty one on third and fourth down and you

631
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: have to hold on for your life. The Caves dropped

632
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: so many interceptions O Joe four okay, okay, because remember

633
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: they dropped that one right before the half for Joe

634
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: gotta kick. Then they had one to dude. He bobbled it,

635
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: then he bought it. Well, I think youre gonna catch it.

636
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you catch it. Then he bought it

637
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: hit the ground, and then the dude barble one. Oh Joe,

638
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: this thing is pretty yeah, other DV pops it up

639
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: in there. He right did her then pick it up?

640
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: It went right through his hands on saying, but the

641
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: Caves are headed to other National Championship Game thirty one,

642
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: twenty seven over the Old Miss revs. A very very

643
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: good ball game. I can see why people like Carson back,

644
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: and then you can see why he has his critics because,

645
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: oh Joe, he was a mailst That game shouldn't have

646
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: been that close. He got Tony, he split the seams

647
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: on comfort to go ahead. I'm gonna let you go ahead.

648
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: Tell me what you thought. What did you like about

649
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: what you saw from the you.

650
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: Listen what I like from the you Obviously it was

651
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: an offense on It was an offense defensively. I would

652
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: have loved for him to add a little bit more

653
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: pressure on chamd Liers, but he was able to sit

654
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: back there comfortably on and deliver. I mean, channel Chamberlains

655
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: was what twenty three for thirty seven? He had he

656
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: had one TV for you for two seventy seven. I

657
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: didn't I thought this game would have been won because

658
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: of that god damn front that front four, that front four.

659
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: They weren't able to get home and disrupt Old missed

660
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: the way I thought they would have. Obviously, Lacy got loose.

661
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: Lacey got loose early, early, and was the first half.

662
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: He got loose, loose on a big one. They kind

663
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: of kept him in check after that. But this game

664
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: was won by Carson back even even though he will

665
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: have his critics because of what he was able to

666
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: do tonight and make some of the throws he that

667
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 4: he did make that were completed, he missed some that

668
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: could have that could have blew his game out the

669
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: water on wide open the Blewest game completely out the water.

670
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: He gonna look at film. They gonna go back if

671
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: they're playing a better team, honestly, if they're playing a

672
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: better team offensively, they lose his game because you had

673
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: to fight for your life, you know.

674
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: And you shouldn't now, not when you possessed the ball

675
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: like they possessed. They had the ball for over forty

676
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: one minutes, not that not that much.

677
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: And also some of them interceptions, some of those intercessions

678
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: that they should have had ye hoping if they got

679
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: the ball back. They could have turn those into points.

680
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. You look at the game early on,

681
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: you know he got Tony. Tony splits the seam. He

682
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: throws it up the rail like he's gonna throw him

683
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: into the corner. No, keep in front side. You see

684
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: Tony's looking for it like this, and he throws him

685
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: like that. He's like, bro, what are you doing? I mean,

686
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: he throws one, he got the guy wide open in

687
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: the flat. He al may lmils it on the on

688
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: the last drive. And then you look at at some

689
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: of the throws that he's missing and you're like, bro,

690
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: they talking about your top quarterback. And then you watch

691
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: him on the last drive, on the throws that he completed,

692
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I mean, saved him all. I don't.

693
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: I still don't know how he caught the ball back

694
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: here and still got a foot. I don't know how.

695
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: You know, you know what, for some reason they did

696
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: they call that play out. I'm not sure why. Because

697
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: the toe touchdown.

698
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: Because his his his heel the ball of his hit. First,

699
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: you think, so hey dead, did you think did you

700
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: think it like the the ball of his foot here?

701
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: And Dennis I thought, I.

702
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 4: Thought to me when I was watching when I saw

703
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: the replay, Unk, I thought it was toe touch first

704
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: and obviously that he'll has to follow one of the tote.

705
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, okay, yeah, I agree, Yes, yes,

706
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was a completed I thought it was

707
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: a completed play.

708
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: I thought so I was tripping. I was tripping because

709
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 4: the totu he wasn't tripping. But but listen, it wasn't complete.

710
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 4: But maloch I Tony to night Unk. You know down

711
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: here in Miami, we call him baby Jesus, that's that's

712
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: the nickname. And boy, he was every every every bit

713
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: of that tonight. He was especially a special player, he

714
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 4: being able to do some of the things that he done.

715
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: The screen passed. He took to the house, be a

716
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: having the vision to be able to maneuver through traffic

717
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: and get in the end zone. Man, goddamn brother Fletcher,

718
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: he told that ball tonight Unk.

719
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: You can tell the cuse they won't listen to me.

720
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Tell him you can't jump cut when you got your

721
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: cleat spatted because there's too much. If there's there's no

722
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: there's no traction underneath. Because when you slip on that

723
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: wet grass, your feet going out for money right fro

724
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: under you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but it was an unbelievable game.

725
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: Look the malaka to play with sensational uh keeling. Uh.

726
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm watching it in real time. Maryon Marion Marion.

727
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: Oh yo, help me understand this. DV has Maryon Man,

728
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: he's got him, man, he's trying to feel for him,

729
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: but he's trying to look at Carnson back. Marion turn

730
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: wheels and goes up and then he like starts chasing him. Bro,

731
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: you got him?

732
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: Man?

733
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: You you cannot clue that far down the field. I'm

734
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: looking at somebody these gout him like, Bro, I know,

735
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: damn well, yr dB coach a teaching that technique. You

736
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: have thirty yards down the field and you looking in

737
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: the backfield. When you got this man?

738
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 2: Man?

739
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I know you talked about you talking

740
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 4: about the dB from old Miss.

741
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I think it's last yes, yes, When when when Marion

742
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: roll he turns it up? Yeah, catches it. He has him, man,

743
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: because he starts on like an end route. Yeah, but

744
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: he's feeling for it and then he turns it up.

745
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: He looking in the backfield like what can you do

746
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: for I just want to know if the quarterback got

747
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: the ball and you twenty yards down the field, tell

748
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: me how what how do you impact the quarterback? You

749
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: can't sack it.

750
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing at all, but obviously wanting to see and

751
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: get it and get get a hint on it when

752
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 4: the ball is coming out. Is that number thirty two

753
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 4: with that Grave junior on that play?

754
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: I forget who it might have been on Joe, it

755
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: wasn't six.

756
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what it was, but obviously on one

757
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: of the players that stuck out to me on the

758
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 4: Old Miss defense even though they lost the game at dB,

759
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 4: was that young bull he wore you were number thirty

760
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: two Grave junior. Hey he gonna be a hell of

761
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: a player, hear me, Hey, he's gonna be.

762
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: A hell You're right. It might have been a Grave

763
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: junior it was, yeah, yeah, Even who was it? Who

764
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: was it that that got beat on on that that

765
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: broken play where Beck rolls out of pocket? I like TJ.

766
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Doughery to number six? Oh yeah, he nice, number six.

767
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're what they call a rover,

768
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: or he a miag or well or I don't know

769
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: what he is. All I know he can play. Yeah, yeah,

770
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: he can play.

771
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: They got a good they got a good defense. Grave

772
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: Junior stuck out to me on film to the point

773
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 4: where I had the tweet, well, goddamn, is he running

774
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: the routse? I mean, does he got He's running the

775
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: rouse for most of the dv's in the game. And

776
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: obviously he had he had he had a p I.

777
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: But he made some really really great plays. Uh and

778
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: and man the man out there, So I mean that

779
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: that that's that's some credit to him. Or even though

780
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: they did lose the game, this was that's one of

781
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: the better fourth quarters in college football I've seen in

782
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 4: a very long time.

783
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: It is overall, it was, it was it was a look,

784
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: the stakes are really really high, yes, sir, everybody, somebody

785
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: knows their season's end, and it's ending one game before

786
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: the ultimate golden which is getting to the national championship

787
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: and winning. So that's what hurts the most because you're

788
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: one step away and somebody knows that dream is ending tonight. Yes,

789
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: and so maybe you're a little candative. Maybe look, okay,

790
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: hey let's feel our way into it. I thought Miami

791
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: was doing good going down the field, end up having themself.

792
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what the guard right guard? How many

793
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: times you're gonna fall start? They told you in the huddle.

794
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: They're in the huddle, Hey, don't move, break bro, bro

795
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: where you going? And then the next play the ball

796
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: gets tipped and it's intercepting. Yeah, it's like like I said, O, Joe, see,

797
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: that's why b I couldn't do it. Did you not

798
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: let Mess your question? Did you know the snap count?

799
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: Did he not tell you because everybody else knew it? Yeah?

800
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: For this was a gamey oh, Joe, I'm looking at

801
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: old Miss. I don't know how Old Miss made it

802
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: this close. Because they look at this. I'm gonna see

803
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: something with Yoe, because I think they had like I think,

804
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: uh do you had like ninety plays? Yeah, to like

805
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: forty something maybe fifty oh shit, fifty one rush attempts

806
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: to twenty one rush attempts. So thirty seven and fifty one.

807
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: That's eighty eight sixty twenty eight more plays. Two. You

808
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: had the ball forty one minutes and twenty two seconds.

809
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: Old Mess had the ball eighteen minutes and thirty eight seconds.

810
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: And for and for the game to be as close

811
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: as it was. When you dominate time of possession, you're

812
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: crazy officient on thirty fourth down and for you to basically,

813
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, need a hell Mary to fall incomplete. You

814
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: let a team hang around. Now, you got away with

815
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: this one, but I'm not so sure the next team

816
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: that you play if you let them hang around as

817
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: long as this, I wouldn't tempt faith if I was them.

818
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: It might hurt you. Obviously, when they do play in

819
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: the National Championship Game, obviously it's going to be a

820
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: home game for the Hurricane because it's being played here

821
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: at the hard Rock Stadium in Miami. I'm hoping the defense.

822
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: I'm hoping the defense shows up a little better, more

823
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: so that front as opposed to the back end for

824
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: the Miami Hurricanes. I need Bain and then them young boys,

825
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: them young bulls on the front. I need them to

826
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 4: impact the game a little bit more, make their presence

827
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: felt a little bit more. Make whoever they play, whether

828
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 4: it be Mendoza or whether it be the quarterback from Oregon,

829
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: I mean more, whoever they play, make him uncomfortable. Because

830
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: both of them, if you allow them to sit back

831
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: and throw the way Chambers was able to throw to Night,

832
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: they surgical with that ball man. They are surgical with

833
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: that ball.

834
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: The problem that I think Miami is that the guy

835
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: had great mobility, and when you have a guy great mobility,

836
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: you're really you're really cautious. I don't want to I

837
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: just don't want to let him jump out the window

838
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: own me, because he kind of hurt Georgia with his

839
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: legs on some places, and these hurt teams with his legs,

840
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: and he has that ability. So they felt that they

841
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: matched up really well with their secondary and they felt

842
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: they could get enough pressure with four. Now they bought

843
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: some pressure early on and they got to him and

844
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: caused them to get an intentional grounding. But I thought

845
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: that I thought it seemed like to me the game

846
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: plan was, it's like less less containing, less containing. I

847
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: liked it. I liked the last play, Oh Joe, because

848
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: the right handed quarterback normally they rolled him right. What

849
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: did they do? They dashed him left yep, so not

850
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: every they got three guys on that one side. Now

851
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: we got one guy, so we got plenty enough time

852
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: to get him out there and let the guys get

853
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: down the field so they can throw it. But I

854
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: thought Miami did a great look. Penalties hurt Miami killed

855
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: some drives. They dropped some mental sceptions. They ended up

856
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: leading the points for Old Miss. But those opportunities when

857
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: you get those opportunities like that, and I was like, man,

858
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: you guys got the momentum. Man, you need to put

859
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: this team away. You need to get some separation right now,

860
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: there's not enough separation between you and Old Miss. And

861
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: you're like, you look at it, they're dominating this game. Yeah,

862
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm like dominating it and you look up and like,

863
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: hold on, wait a minute, they're still in this game. Yeah.

864
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they took the lead and

865
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: then took the Miami got it back, and then they

866
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: go back and get it again, and then Miami has

867
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: to take it again. I'm like, how do you guys

868
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: have the lead when you only have you have, you know,

869
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: basically a quarter or a half worth of a fewer players.

870
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: But that was This was unbelievable game on Yoe. This

871
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: was this was crazy. This is what this is what

872
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: you This is what you hope, This is what you hope,

873
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: this is what you want. I guess the money gonna

874
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: be coming in piling into the UUs and some of

875
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: them a love that, Hey, this is this is what

876
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: we expect now with yo a.

877
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely and and and another thing. This is good not

878
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: only in I L, but with players that are hitting

879
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: the portal. Guess where they're gonna want to come, right,

880
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: guess what you know? Players are gonna want to come

881
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: to Miami because you see what the pro is done,

882
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 4: You see what Chris Paul is done with the program.

883
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: And I think this is the resurgence to the Hurricanes

884
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: of old. I'm not saying they're the same two thousand

885
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 4: Hurricanes and the Hurricanes from the nineties.

886
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Eighties.

887
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great step in the right direction

888
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: for that program in general. And they got some they

889
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 4: got some really good players on that goddamn Malachai Toni

890
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 4: malakay Toni is supposed to be a senior in high

891
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: school man. He's supposed to be a senior high school man.

892
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: Just just watching what he's done and being being a

893
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: very very good friend of all his pops who was

894
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: from Liberty City to you might, I don't know if

895
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: you remember, uh Antonio Antonio Brown, not Antonio Brown that

896
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: played for the Cowboys, and not not our Antonio Brown,

897
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: but Antonio Dayli Brown. He played for Buffalo Bills. He

898
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: was short ran he ran four two. Okay, so he

899
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: played a little bit with with a command almost said

900
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: red but the commanders. But he was fast, boy, he

901
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: was fast. So seeing seeing his son out there man

902
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 4: shine and having fun man salute the daylight man and Malachi,

903
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 4: I'm whole. You want to come to the game, No,

904
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: I don't, oh Joe, I can get tickets to the

905
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 4: hard Rock Yo.

906
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: I would be traveling. I got we gotta go to

907
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: New York next week, and then I got to go

908
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: back to LA for three days next week to take

909
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: two episodes of Club Shay ship Man, and plus I

910
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: still got to travel for the Super Bowl. Not bro Well,

911
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. They know

912
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: me and Jordan it there port like, oh y'all, y'all.

913
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: Again, huh yeah, hey, but but listen, listen, I'm telling you.

914
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: I can get us free tickets. I can get us

915
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 4: free tickets in the game, so we can go watch

916
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: the game and we could.

917
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Do I wish I could like make myself magically appear

918
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: and not have to get the bank. Do you know

919
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: how far Miami is from Vegas? Yeah?

920
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: I know, but you already got to be on the

921
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 4: West coast anyway, you had to be on the East

922
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 4: coast anyway, so you might will come on down this

923
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 4: way early.

924
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: No, you just saying you got to.

925
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 4: You just said you gotta be okay, then you you

926
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 4: you already you can already be on this end. Miami

927
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: to New York is the two hour fly.

928
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: I know, Oh Joe, I need some rest, Oh Joe,

929
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: do you know how much we oh yo, think about it?

930
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: We got tonight Tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Yes, travel Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

931
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Said what, Well, I leave Monday, I take Tuesday Wednesday

932
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: and come back Thursday.

933
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you something. You heard that schedule?

934
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 4: You just ran off, right, Yes, you do understand. I'm

935
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 4: doing the same traveling you're doing, right, Yes, Hey, I'm

936
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 4: getting on the same flight, doing the same travel.

937
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: You want to come do it? You want to? You

938
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: want to? You want to be my guest, my guest

939
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: host one Club Shay show. You want to host the episode? Yeah?

940
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got we got, we got who

941
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 4: we got? Or you can't tell me who we got? Huh,

942
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: tell me who we got? So I could do my

943
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: homework so I know it to ask.

944
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: I'll bout I betta. Let you take the episode this

945
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: summer and see how you do. Okay, oh so just me? Yeah,

946
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: yeah you if you and the gas?

947
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 4: Okay, hey, can I ask you a question? Can That's

948
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 4: a question?

949
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: Now?

950
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: Now? Now does does does that come with pay? Is

951
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 4: that extra pays the host?

952
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: I mean I need to see. I need to see

953
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: if you could do it. Maybe you might want to

954
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: do one, maybe you might want to start.

955
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 4: Your own Yeah, hold on, hold on, I got to see.

956
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: How much homework, how much prep clup with you? Right right?

957
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: I think I'm ready for that un because you know

958
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 4: I can. I can flip the switch from the person

959
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: that everybody sees on night cab is completely different than

960
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 4: the person that to be on club. I get very professional.

961
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 4: I flipped the switch. I'm gonna put on it. I'm

962
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: gonna put on a nice polo and a jacket.

963
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you got. But you know, in an

964
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: interview everything can be ad lib. Yeah, there could be

965
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: some moments in there. You got. You gotta follow the

966
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: script'ma I'm gonna let it flow.

967
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not really good scripted unless it's a

968
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: TV show. I'm not really good scripted. So I'm really

969
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: good off the but it got to be a sequence.

970
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: You just can't be all over the place. Oh, I know,

971
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: one band, one sound, I got it maybe, But.

972
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: This was the unbelieve. Look mc kay's won their first

973
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: national championship in Miami. Yeah, there's a chance that were

974
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: I remember when they won the first when they beat

975
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Oklahoma, Yeah, and won the national championship. But they

976
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: went they went for two and the mall got batted down.

977
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: This was an eighty four eighty three season. Eighty four. Uh. Uh.

978
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: That was Bernie Kosar. Bernie Coosa was a freshman. That's

979
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: when they had Oklahoma. Nebraska had Turner give Mike Rogier.

980
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Mike Rogier had won the Heisman Trophy that year, went

981
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: over two thousand yards.

982
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

983
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: I think Dean stein Cooler was on that team. They had.

984
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: They were they were loaded. They were loaded. But the U,

985
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: the U sprung that upset coach Mehlenberger. They came out

986
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: of nowhere and from that point on they had you know,

987
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: had hot smell Meil Bratton. Uh fat yet that would

988
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: be that would be uh. That was the the beginning

989
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 1: of the U as we know it, you know, coach

990
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: and Ellenberger and then he leaves, he goes to I

991
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: think the USFL or maybe another school, and then income

992
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy and then income ericson.

993
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey they were body boy under Hey that you

994
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: team Jimmy had and coach oh.

995
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 1: Jes Jimmy Jimmy. Well, not only could Jimmy build a team. Yes,

996
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: he knew exactly what to say to the players because

997
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, I know you guys have seen the interview

998
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: with Mike where he said, I said, Mike, Man, why

999
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: you what forty one? He say, Man, that was Jimmy anyway,

1000
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: forty seven to him, I say, I said, Jimmy, let

1001
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: me get another number, man, forty seven that they need.

1002
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: He said, i'mnna give you some touchdown. I'm gonna give

1003
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: you some yards. He said, Mike, you know what I

1004
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: see when I see you in that forty seven. You

1005
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: can see a big ol' seven forty seven about the

1006
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: land in the end, so the score touchdowns might say yeah,

1007
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: you know what like yeah? He say, Man, I get

1008
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: the dollars about two or three years and we having

1009
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: a drink, he say, Mike, I can't believe you brought

1010
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: that story. Mike say what story? Jimmy? He say, that's

1011
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: sell im forty seven story. Jimmy knew how to sell,

1012
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy knew how to motivate. Jimmy was the perfect carrot

1013
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: and the stick. He knew that.

1014
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1015
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: And man, he had some playerboard. They ad who they

1016
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: got Jay Bugget, they got Danny Stuves, and they had

1017
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: test of Birdy. I still don't know how they lost

1018
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: that game to Penn State. I still don't know he

1019
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: lost fourteen. I don't know with that level of talent

1020
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: that they had on the field of that night. Yeah, yeah,

1021
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: they were supposed to lose that game.

1022
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: Hey, Jimmy, Jimmy had some players too, and when Dennis

1023
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 4: Erickson was there, Oh yeah, ya ya yea, yeah, Jimmy

1024
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 4: had some players too.

1025
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: Boy. But I still look, oh, miss, you ain't got

1026
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: nothing to hold your head down. This was uh boy.

1027
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: I think Lane Lane would have probably been sick had

1028
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: they won this game, because remember, oh Joe, He's leaving

1029
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: Old miss to go build a championship team, and lo

1030
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: and behold he built one already.

1031
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, he built one.

1032
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is is that he could have

1033
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: stayed there and done this and had no problems. He

1034
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: must win a national championship at l s U.

1035
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: And we also have to understand why he left. We

1036
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: have to understand, you know, because because because you know,

1037
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: money talks. Huh, yes, money talk.

1038
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: But they it's being reported that Old Miss was willing

1039
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: to match. You know. Hey, you know now he passed away,

1040
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm sure he left a pretty nice endowment.

1041
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I can tell you one thing. I think

1042
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: if if Old Miss was willing to match, when the

1043
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: Rumlings and him actually leave in L S you would

1044
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: have came about they would have matched it. Then what's

1045
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: the point of waiting?

1046
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, if you really want to stay you, you know,

1047
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: you don't even entertain that. Yeah. Yeah, it's like in

1048
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: a relationship with Joe, if you really want to stay

1049
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: with old girl, are you really out there entertaining others?

1050
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: You really? We don't even talk about about that.

1051
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: I'm with you when you're right now, I'm with you,

1052
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: right hey, hold on, hold on, hold on before you

1053
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: before you keep going, let me put my camera back on,

1054
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: back on my because I'm I'm on my laptop and

1055
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: I don't I don't like I don't like it being

1056
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: not clear. Hold on, need I need the people to

1057
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: see my face alright, there we go. See see how

1058
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 4: clear that boy?

1059
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, telling to mess your question. Yeah,

1060
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: was that past interference on the last play, oh.

1061
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: The very last play in the end zone in the corner. Yeah,

1062
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 4: that's a touchy one on that's a touchy one. That honestly,

1063
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: that's a touchy one because he's feeling for him and

1064
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: he has him the whole time was down, but he

1065
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 4: pulled him down a little bit. It's a call that

1066
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 4: can be called the ref one to be an asshole.

1067
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: He could have he could do it. He could have

1068
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: threw it. Obviously, it's not not a spot file. It'll

1069
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: be a fIF fifteen yards and I think even with

1070
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: the fifteen yards, I still don't think they get a

1071
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: touchdown because they needed to touchdown to win. But he

1072
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: could have called it if he wanted to.

1073
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I think that was more of a past

1074
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: interference than the one in Ohio state. Remember they called

1075
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: it one in the corner. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that

1076
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: was I'm not mistaken. I think that that gentleman of

1077
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: the dB. I think he in prisoned Ojo Chris Gamble

1078
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: sharp sharp he is, I think so. I think he

1079
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: got I thought I think He called him a one

1080
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: a severn.

1081
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Speaker 4: It's tough, ah,