Speaker 1: I Suck Good Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared and
Speaker 1: I heart radio podcast. Hey what's going on? Welcome to
Speaker 1: an all new episode of help I Suck At Dating.
Speaker 1: My name is Jared Haven, joined all the way from
Speaker 1: Montreal with the beautiful Vanessa Grimaldi. Oh, I love how
Speaker 1: you rolled yours. That's so European. It wasn't my best role.
Speaker 1: You just got back from Europe, didn't you. I just
Speaker 1: got back from Europe. I was in Paris and then
Speaker 1: I was in Italy with the family. Um, but feels
Speaker 1: good to be back. Three weeks vacation for me. I
Speaker 1: feel like ten days is a good vacation time. More
Speaker 1: than that, I just get like homesick. So I'm happy
Speaker 1: to be back. Yeah, three weeks you get really homesick.
Speaker 1: I've been there, and it's like, okay, after ten days,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Ten days, I'm kind of ready
Speaker 1: to go back home. M Also, obviously, Mark and Easton
Speaker 1: are in studio. Dean is um here. He's driving here,
Speaker 1: and that's important because we have a lot to ask
Speaker 1: him about as far as Paradise goes. Yes, I've asked
Speaker 1: him to share his location with me so I can
Speaker 1: give you all time updates of how far away he is? Okay,
Speaker 1: how far is Dean? I don't know. Yeah, he hasn't
Speaker 1: responded yet, but I've requested the location. All right. Well,
Speaker 1: he did text us approximately ten minutes ago saying he
Speaker 1: was thirty four minutes away. Ten minutes ago. Just about
Speaker 1: maybe about fifteen minutes ago. It's hard to get on
Speaker 1: my topic. That might be another hour. Okay, Well we'll see,
Speaker 1: so we'll find out the van is about twenty minutes
Speaker 1: away approximately. The question is does he have somebody else
Speaker 1: in the van with it? And we have some obviously
Speaker 1: breaking recent news from Bachelor in Paradise that involves our
Speaker 1: very own Dean Anglert, So we're gonna catch up with
Speaker 1: him later on in this podcast. But first we have
Speaker 1: some very special guests that are in studio rate now
Speaker 1: from the news show Marrying Millions, which UH premiered last Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Second episode is tomorrow night, ten pm on Livetime. We
Speaker 1: have Sean Laurdes and Megan Thomas in studio. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us, guys, appreciate it. So tell
Speaker 1: us about your new show, Marrying Millions, what it's about.
Speaker 1: Because you two are engaged, you're engaged before the show,
Speaker 1: but tell us a little bit about it. Well, one
Speaker 1: of the individuals on on the show is a millionaire
Speaker 1: and the other one is not is a millionaire, and
Speaker 1: I am the girl from the small town that met
Speaker 1: the man of her dream Megan. I am from a
Speaker 1: small town and I am not a millionaire either, So
Speaker 1: I certainly relate. I'm very I'm relating to you on
Speaker 1: that one. Um. So, the whole show pretty much centers
Speaker 1: around the story. Like you said, there's couples, one is wealthy,
Speaker 1: one is not or not not wealthy, but obviously not
Speaker 1: a millionaire. Um. And so the whole point of the show,
Speaker 1: from my understanding, is that it really gets down to
Speaker 1: the crunx crux of whether somebody is here for the
Speaker 1: quote right reasons, which is thrown around Bachelor all the time,
Speaker 1: right reasons, wrong reasons of whether somebody is dating someone
Speaker 1: just because of their money, right or a gold digger? Right?
Speaker 1: Are they a gold digger? A gold digger? And gold
Speaker 1: diggers can be guys, they can be girls, they can
Speaker 1: be and yeah, well, on the show, there's also someone
Speaker 1: who's an older woman dating someone who's basically her daughter's age. Right,
Speaker 1: there's six couples. So it's a docuseries and they follow
Speaker 1: six couples. You're one of the six couples. And um,
Speaker 1: there's also another couple, Jared, I want to see if
Speaker 1: you know your if your math skills are really good.
Speaker 1: There's another couple, Bill and Brianna. Bill is sixty, Brianna
Speaker 1: is twenty one. Guess well, can you calculate what the
Speaker 1: aged gap is? Yeah, they're thirty nine years good? Come on, guys,
Speaker 1: Come on. The Rhode Island Public School system did me
Speaker 1: no wrong? I barely passed. Um. So, Megan, is it
Speaker 1: something that you Um? Is that the reason why you
Speaker 1: wanted to do the show to kind of put an
Speaker 1: end to like the the idea that people think people
Speaker 1: marry for money. I wanted to the show. I actually
Speaker 1: kind of made Sean do the show, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, it'll be fun because we just like new experiences.
Speaker 1: We do things that the public doesn't really have access to,
Speaker 1: so we just like unique experiences. So I'm like, let's
Speaker 1: do this show. It sounds so fun. Yeah, totally. It's
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. Before we get asked to
Speaker 1: go on Bachelor, people are like, why would you date
Speaker 1: on TV. It's like, why not? You know, it's such
Speaker 1: an incredibly unique opportunity. Why would I ever say no
Speaker 1: to this if life has led me this way? Um,
Speaker 1: but you guys were dating before the show. So you
Speaker 1: guys have been together for how long? Five years? Just
Speaker 1: about five years? And then you got engaged last year? Correct? Perfect?
Speaker 1: And so now you guys now I know the show, uh,
Speaker 1: circles all around the drama, right, and it might be
Speaker 1: leading towards the idea, you know, whether you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna stay engage, whether you're going to break off the engagement.
Speaker 1: So you can't talk about wedding plans just yet, right,
Speaker 1: You'll have to watch. Okay, I love that line. It
Speaker 1: seems as though your relationship that was mostly the drama's
Speaker 1: mostly around family. That's right. Sean's dad is, you know,
Speaker 1: worried about securing the family's wealth, and so he's kind
Speaker 1: of the one that's hesitant about us getting married. He's
Speaker 1: on his third wife as well, that explains it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has a prenup about two inches high with his
Speaker 1: third one. He sent it to so long you wanted
Speaker 1: me to just have Megan sign it right at the
Speaker 1: bottom and without reading He's like, I'll just do it,
Speaker 1: like at least she'll, you know, have some drinks. How
Speaker 1: it works now, just you know, a little tipsy and
Speaker 1: just sign right here, honey. Don't worry about it. It's
Speaker 1: not like it's a pre nuptial agreement or anything. My
Speaker 1: mom says it ruined her marriage with my dad. Oh well,
Speaker 1: I wonder what was in the prenup though, because I
Speaker 1: know a lot of couples who um well, personally, I
Speaker 1: I've actually, uh, it's a subject that I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about too, because I'm in a relationship not nearly as
Speaker 1: close to what you guys are five years as a kid, Like,
Speaker 1: it's a very new relationship for me. But prenup has
Speaker 1: always been a subject that I remember, like years ago,
Speaker 1: I thought I would never sign a prenup because to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, well why would It's almost like a contract, right,
Speaker 1: So if this happens, then this is like these are
Speaker 1: the consequences to that. And then as I start talking
Speaker 1: to more people, it kind of just made more sense.
Speaker 1: Like my families, My parents are divorced, and I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are divorced as well, And
Speaker 1: it's not only about assets. I think it's it's about
Speaker 1: like other things too that come along with it. So
Speaker 1: is that something that's totally off the table for you guys?
Speaker 1: We you know, I want my Dad's very important to me.
Speaker 1: I want him to be at the wedding, but he's
Speaker 1: saying that he's you know, there there's no wedding without
Speaker 1: a prenup, and so we're struggling with that right now.
Speaker 1: We're just trying to make them both happy. Megan doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be labeled as a gold digger, you know.
Speaker 1: She's feels like if I sign that, you know, it
Speaker 1: means I just want everybody happy. It's hard to make,
Speaker 1: you know, it's impossible to make everybody happy. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm currently engaged right now, and it's tough with you know,
Speaker 1: you have your own family that's supporting and loving you,
Speaker 1: and then you also have your significant other, UM, who
Speaker 1: you want to make happy. And it's difficult, right because
Speaker 1: there's so many different personalities, there's so many people that
Speaker 1: you care about deeply. It's really hard to know what
Speaker 1: the right decision is. UM. But my question is, actually,
Speaker 1: because I'm a little naive within this subject, what exactly
Speaker 1: is a pre numb Because I know it's it's signed
Speaker 1: before you get married, right does it? Could do it
Speaker 1: after marriage? Okay, you can do it afterwards. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there. You can also put sunset clauses in it,
Speaker 1: I mean their meaning if you're successful in your marriage
Speaker 1: for ten years, it becomes null. You know, you can
Speaker 1: do that. There's a lot of things like that that
Speaker 1: that my dad was mentioning. We can, you know, make
Speaker 1: tell Megan that, like, hey, wasn't there something if the
Speaker 1: woman gains thirty pounds or something that you have to
Speaker 1: get it the worst, no way. And your death contract.
Speaker 1: He has something like that. I don't remember the exact
Speaker 1: details of it, but something alto Yeah, small print paragraph three,
Speaker 1: line four. Um, that's very interesting. So Megan, what is
Speaker 1: your apprehension was signing a pre nump? I also think
Speaker 1: it's like a contract, like a business agreement. You know,
Speaker 1: we're not even married yet, and you want you think
Speaker 1: that I'm going to like take the family's money. I
Speaker 1: think it creates this trust and I don't want to
Speaker 1: print up interesting, very interesting. I think from an outsider's perspective,
Speaker 1: it's tough because I can see both sides of it.
Speaker 1: Because I can obviously see your father's side, saying, hey,
Speaker 1: it's not that I think my future daughter in law
Speaker 1: is a quote unquote gold digger. But things happen right
Speaker 1: and you can't predict the future. But I also see
Speaker 1: because he was married three times, so I totally understand
Speaker 1: where he's coming from. And like I said, my parents
Speaker 1: are divorced too, So now I understand the value of
Speaker 1: a prenup. But it's it's not for everybody. It's not
Speaker 1: to say that everybody needs to do that. But enough
Speaker 1: for the heavy talk. We we know that this uh,
Speaker 1: this show is about real relationship, real love. We want
Speaker 1: to know, how did you guys meet. I was going
Speaker 1: to u c l A. And Sean had a position
Speaker 1: open at his foundation, the Lord has foundation, and so
Speaker 1: I went to go apply for this job and he
Speaker 1: was fifteen minutes late to the meeting, so I bounced
Speaker 1: back to school and then he kind of just chased
Speaker 1: me after that. I'm an interactive CEO. I like to
Speaker 1: meet the people we were hiring. She had an impressive resume,
Speaker 1: so I mean, I was like, this girl is straight a.
Speaker 1: She's the captain of this at her high school. She
Speaker 1: does this and this and and she's beautiful and she's
Speaker 1: gorgeous with brains. I wanted to I wanted to meet her,
Speaker 1: and uh when I went down, she was gone fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. So I looked her up and
Speaker 1: it took me a year and a half to get
Speaker 1: her on the first date. Oh, I got that's so cute.
Speaker 1: A year and a half. What where you're holding out
Speaker 1: for Megan? I mean he was intimidating I like he
Speaker 1: would have all these photos with actresses and fancy cars,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of like, who is this guy? Actually?
Speaker 1: See how you brought that up. I kind of want
Speaker 1: to get to one of those pictures, which I am
Speaker 1: fascinated by. So Sean, I may have looked you up
Speaker 1: on the old the old Graham before he came in,
Speaker 1: just to kind of familiarize myself with both of you guys.
Speaker 1: You have a few awesome pictures. You have a picture
Speaker 1: with you know, Barack Obama, Don Junior, you have a
Speaker 1: picture with Dali Lama and Jim Carrey, which is freaking awesome.
Speaker 1: But there's one picture that's so vague I have to
Speaker 1: ask you about it. It just was last July four
Speaker 1: or excuse me, two years ago. And it's a picture
Speaker 1: of Kiana Reeves with with Sean Jr. Your child, and
Speaker 1: it says happy four the July. Everyone, thank you Kiano
Speaker 1: Reeves for keeping Sean Junior safe. Hashtag babysitting Did Keana
Speaker 1: Reeves babysit Sean Jr. He's an awesome guy. I we
Speaker 1: bumped into him in the Malibu Mark Market. He's always
Speaker 1: there everyone I like see him. He's there like all
Speaker 1: the time, Malibu Market, the Malibu Country Mark. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: uh my mom saw him, loves him. We love him
Speaker 1: in the Matrix. You don't think I can bend time.
Speaker 1: He's point break Johnny. He's Shane Falcon. That dude's the man.
Speaker 1: And he uh, you know, he babysit him. He baby
Speaker 1: sat him for like that five seconds right there. You know,
Speaker 1: it was just you know, he was nice enough to
Speaker 1: hold him and take a picture from my mom. He's
Speaker 1: He's really awesome. That's awesome. I know I had to
Speaker 1: because I was just scrolling through and I'm a big
Speaker 1: Kiana Reese fan, and obviously that dude is going through
Speaker 1: a moment right now. He's the biggest name in the world. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I it was such a vague picture of just
Speaker 1: you and now I know your mother and your son,
Speaker 1: and it just said babysit And I was like, is
Speaker 1: this guy have Keanu rees as a babysitter right now?
Speaker 1: And he's coming on our podcast. It's real money. Lionel
Speaker 1: Richie is like his godfather though he's you know, like
Speaker 1: he we have. We're very blessed to have a really
Speaker 1: awesome group of friends and you know, we're you know,
Speaker 1: we we've met wonderful people and they're all very supportive
Speaker 1: of of our kids. Like I feel like their energy
Speaker 1: just transformed like we were. Lionel rubbed Megan's belly, you know,
Speaker 1: before he was born at Nobu. I feel like that
Speaker 1: good energy passed on. And now he's like an actor himself.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, he's doing so many things. He's
Speaker 1: got an agent in New York. He makes his own money.
Speaker 1: He's he's got a little bank account three now he's three,
Speaker 1: three and a half. He's three and a half with
Speaker 1: an agent. Like god, I gotta get on. I'm thirty
Speaker 1: and I'm just slacking right now. Um So, Sean, who
Speaker 1: was your hesitation going on the show. My hesitation was,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of a more of a private guy.
Speaker 1: And Megan came over and just asked me, you know,
Speaker 1: six times, let's do it. Please, please, please, please, pleace.
Speaker 1: So I just said, okay, you know, it would be
Speaker 1: good to get the foundation out there a little more.
Speaker 1: People need help with any kind of charity, you know,
Speaker 1: help with their lives or something, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to I would like them to come to our foundation
Speaker 1: and ask for help. We're looking for a new program foundation,
Speaker 1: the lord Is Foundation. What do we do a lot
Speaker 1: of youth empowerment and education. You know, we used to
Speaker 1: go to schools and talk to kids and not to
Speaker 1: give up on their dreams. And then I just said,
Speaker 1: you know, we can do a bigger impact. What can
Speaker 1: we do? So I teamed up with his holiness the
Speaker 1: Dalai Lama, brought him into you know, went down to
Speaker 1: India State at his home and uh, he was so
Speaker 1: generous and nice to fit me in because normally have
Speaker 1: to wait five years to work with him. But he's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I believe in your cause. And so
Speaker 1: he Uh, we rented out the stadium, the Forum Stadium
Speaker 1: for him and hosted him in Los Angeles and and
Speaker 1: gave five thousand tickets away to the inner city kids
Speaker 1: that haven't really seen the beach. You know, they they're
Speaker 1: that poor. So we bought my teamed up with another charity,
Speaker 1: bust them in with their parents, their teachers and principles.
Speaker 1: Five thousand tickets I gave for free, uh, which some
Speaker 1: people were like, oh, we need to charge for those.
Speaker 1: I'm like, now we're giving those for free. You know,
Speaker 1: it's awesome. And we busted and the Dollar Lama said
Speaker 1: it was this most youthful event he's ever done. That
Speaker 1: was something nice. But if you work with the Doali Lama,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna want to work with me.
Speaker 1: And we got you into the Dali Lama. You guys
Speaker 1: are on the same. Yeah, we got a bush bucket
Speaker 1: load of letters from the kids. It was so nice.
Speaker 1: One was terminally ill and she's like, you're not going
Speaker 1: to get you know, I'm not gonna be around when
Speaker 1: you see this letter. But I just want you to
Speaker 1: know that event changed my life. It was it was
Speaker 1: just touching on the right path. And yeah, we did
Speaker 1: an their event. The leaders of l a uh you
Speaker 1: know underneath the Endeavor space shuttle that was you know,
Speaker 1: all the head of the homeless shelters or like the
Speaker 1: head of the studios. You know, it was all like
Speaker 1: the who's who. And that's where Jim Carrey came. We
Speaker 1: invited him because he really wanted He was really funny. Actually,
Speaker 1: he saved me up on stage. I was trying to
Speaker 1: be funny up there and with all the creators saying
Speaker 1: something funny and then and then half of the room laughed,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of and then he just made
Speaker 1: a joke. Everyone laughed. I'm like, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Just give us Jim Carrey, though, I'm sure
Speaker 1: your joke is funny. Well, I think that's a great
Speaker 1: idea to do the show and get the exposure for
Speaker 1: your foundation. Now that you've done the show, what can
Speaker 1: you say has helped strengthen your relationship? Like, what are
Speaker 1: the key ingredients to making a healthy relationship work? Oh?
Speaker 1: Really easy. That one's communication. Megan's really big at communications.
Speaker 1: Her degree at u c l a. Is communications, so
Speaker 1: she's loves to communicate. I don't know what else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's a big one. Telling your partner everything
Speaker 1: and anything and not keeping anything from them because ultimately
Speaker 1: you're living your life with your partner. And your best friends,
Speaker 1: so you shouldn't keep anything from them. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of our listeners have difficulty talking about money, um,
Speaker 1: because in a lot of relationships, there's one part of
Speaker 1: the relationship that makes you know, one person that may
Speaker 1: make more money than the other. So how do you
Speaker 1: guys deal with that? I mean, for me, it was
Speaker 1: a big adjustment kind of getting used to Seawan's habits
Speaker 1: of spending, because I come from a place where I
Speaker 1: save up like every penny and he's, you know, he
Speaker 1: likes suspend a little bit more. But I think that
Speaker 1: as you grow with somebody, you just get used to it.
Speaker 1: And now we have the same bank accounts, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm attached to his bank accounts, so it's kind of
Speaker 1: very transparent about what we spend. And yeah, just trust
Speaker 1: each other, you know, just take a leap of faith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you live once goes by so fast. Why not just share?
Speaker 1: It's hard, I know, I know that couples, even married
Speaker 1: couples that still have separate bank accounts. Um. And so
Speaker 1: I feel like, even though it really seems like this
Speaker 1: materialistic thing, money does become an issue between people within
Speaker 1: a relationship, each to their own you know, there's everybody's different. It.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's one formula for success, but definitely communication. Uh,
Speaker 1: taking the leap of faith trust. I mean, we're we're
Speaker 1: we believe in a higher power to so we like
Speaker 1: to you know, God's like always there, so it's like
Speaker 1: He's it's everything. That's everything. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: we take everything with the grain of salt, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it's not we're not trying to
Speaker 1: be better than anybody. It's just that's we're both humble,
Speaker 1: so that I think that's what allows Yeah, we can
Speaker 1: connect on that level. It doesn't matter. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I took her to in one year, we went to
Speaker 1: um Bali and she wanted to be a yoga teacher.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let's let's go to the best place
Speaker 1: in the world to become a yoga teacher. And so
Speaker 1: she became a Yoga certified instructor so she can do uh.
Speaker 1: And we went to Bali for a month, and then
Speaker 1: after that we went to Thailand and then we went
Speaker 1: to Japan. Took her to the Ritz Carlton and Kyoto
Speaker 1: and that was like they have a really good experience
Speaker 1: there where you can dress up in komotos and so
Speaker 1: I mean, just you know, life, you gotta enjoy life.
Speaker 1: Can't just all be about making money. So I think
Speaker 1: that's another thing to to enjoy your life while you're young,
Speaker 1: not wait till you're retired and then go on vacers.
Speaker 1: You gotta think that you know experiences totally. Yeah. Important.
Speaker 1: You know I didn't ask you this one. Just one
Speaker 1: more of course before you guys go, um, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going to be a spoiler for the season,
Speaker 1: so no, you know, if you can answer it. What
Speaker 1: are your views about the prenupe. I know your dad's views,
Speaker 1: I know your Megan. I didn't think it was a
Speaker 1: big deal until I saw Megan got so offended with it,
Speaker 1: so I so I just took a step back and
Speaker 1: had to research a little more on why she got
Speaker 1: so upset. So it was it was interesting for me
Speaker 1: because my parents had it. It's pretty normal, yeah it um.
Speaker 1: I want Megan happy, you know, happy wife, happy life, right,
Speaker 1: but we're not married yet. I'm learning the same thing
Speaker 1: my friend. I found a bunch of the odd clauses
Speaker 1: people have put into prenups over the years, because you
Speaker 1: can literally do whatever you want like, for example, obviously
Speaker 1: who gets the pets, but you can also who gets
Speaker 1: the pool boy, who gets the gardener, who gets bananny?
Speaker 1: That sort of thing. One prenup said that the wife
Speaker 1: was fined five dollars for every pound she gained. That's
Speaker 1: what every pound, every pound, you know, from the pot,
Speaker 1: from the divorce. Why would a woman this one says
Speaker 1: that her husband could only watch no more than two
Speaker 1: football games per month. Screw that. You ripped that contract
Speaker 1: rate up and she could only watch two reality shows
Speaker 1: a week. In the deal, what religion their children will practice,
Speaker 1: whether or not their child will be a vegetarian? Um? Oh,
Speaker 1: for every time the husband was rude to his in laws,
Speaker 1: he had to pay ten thousand dollars. Well, that's such
Speaker 1: a vague thing dollars. And so supposedly justin timber Lake
Speaker 1: has a deal that if he cheats on Jessica Bill,
Speaker 1: she will receive five hundred thousand dollars. That seems like
Speaker 1: a low balling. Anybody else in that park with me,
Speaker 1: And you could even in the prenup determine how often
Speaker 1: you have sex. Okay, now that's a little too much,
Speaker 1: I thought, Just like a simple prenup of like who
Speaker 1: like if something, if you guys get a divorce, whatever, like,
Speaker 1: how are the assets divided? Not? If you're gonna gain
Speaker 1: a pound, you're gonna get find five dollars for every pound.
Speaker 1: That's just I've never heard that. I laugh at the
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollar justin timber Lake. If he cheats
Speaker 1: on Jessica Bill. If he cheats on Jessica Bill, which
Speaker 1: he won't, but if he does, that girl's getting at
Speaker 1: least twenty mill Okay, out of nowhere, there's five dred
Speaker 1: thousand dollar thing came in. Um, But Sean and Megan,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming into the studio today.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thanks for having us. Marrying Millions
Speaker 1: is on the second episode tomorrow night, Wednesday night at
Speaker 1: ten pm Eastern Time on Lifetime. If you didn't see
Speaker 1: the season premiere last week, I'm sure you can find
Speaker 1: it wherever TV shows are right now, so you can
Speaker 1: catch up on the season. Um, Sean Megan, where can
Speaker 1: everybody find you? You can add us on Instagram, Sean
Speaker 1: lordas s E A N Foundation. What's your foundations page?
Speaker 1: You can, we have a website. The it's just it's
Speaker 1: the Lorda's Foundation Worldwide dot org that abbreviated, so just
Speaker 1: tlf WW dot org. It's better to bind us on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and you know we have a staff there to filter things.
Speaker 1: But perfect great. And Megan my Instagram is at m
Speaker 1: E G G I R L L meg Girl. Perfect again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for coming in. We're really
Speaker 1: looking forward to keeping up with your engagement and relationship
Speaker 1: on Marrying Millions, which again is on Wednesday nights, ten
Speaker 1: o'clock on Lifetime. Thank you, thank you. I have Dean's
Speaker 1: location right there. Oh my god, he's in the other studio.
Speaker 1: Bring him in and talk to Hi about Paradise next.
Speaker 1: A great experience. How about I was going to intro you.
Speaker 1: You just came in. Go back at studio. The band
Speaker 1: made it hesitated. I was gonna I wasn't gonna go,
Speaker 1: and then you were laughing, and then the music hadn't
Speaker 1: stopped yet. It's a long time coming, not really, because
Speaker 1: you haven't missed that. You just missed one week. Last
Speaker 1: week's episode. Yeah, that was nothing. I hope everyone had
Speaker 1: a great July fourth. I hope you had a great
Speaker 1: July four, great Canada day. Oh yeah, that too that
Speaker 1: day that when is Canada Day? It was on July
Speaker 1: four this year. No, how was it what it was
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving? It's always like the first Monday of July
Speaker 1: or something. I'm embarrassed. We're right, yeah, we're right after Canada. Um.
Speaker 1: So Dean, let's just jump right into it. You uh,
Speaker 1: you got promoted last night. I'm being Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 1: I got promoted, promoted on Being Bachelor in Paradise. Second
Speaker 1: little trailer that was hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: So they showed the trailer for Bachelor in Paradise, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching it and I see the Blake drama, see
Speaker 1: Hannah Gee, and then all of a sudden, I see
Speaker 1: a guy on there with luscious, luscious, beautiful flowing hair
Speaker 1: and a stash. G Nope, I guarantee you that stash
Speaker 1: is going to go down in Bachelor history and no
Speaker 1: one is ever going to forget it. Because then later
Speaker 1: on I saw a ten second a ten second promo
Speaker 1: for Bachelor in Paradise and all it was was Dean
Speaker 1: combing his mustache and honestly, just take my money whatever
Speaker 1: I need to pay to watch this show. I'm watching
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about it. I was like, how
Speaker 1: how much must they be grasping for for something on
Speaker 1: the show? If they have, if they have, if my
Speaker 1: mustache is a point of conversation. At this point, there
Speaker 1: were like articles being written with my mustache and the headlines,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, there should be there should be more
Speaker 1: interesting things to discuss on The Bachelor in Paradise, spoilers
Speaker 1: or teasers than my glorious mustache. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think that's the number one headline. Is there anything
Speaker 1: interesting that you can tell us that happened? Um, well,
Speaker 1: I grow out my mustache. I'm not gonna get into
Speaker 1: the specifics of the mustache. It's not the last you'll
Speaker 1: see the must The mustache will be a very central
Speaker 1: point of my time on Paradise. Let me just say
Speaker 1: that there's anyone fall in love with the stash. I
Speaker 1: think every I think America has already fallen in love
Speaker 1: with this. I actually know that the Internet's reaction so
Speaker 1: far has been pretty brutal. Everyone like, rightfully so, that
Speaker 1: the mustache was ironic, right Like I wore the mustache
Speaker 1: ironically to go to Paradise, probably to sparing myself a
Speaker 1: little bit like part of me was like, I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk down there. No one's gonna be interested
Speaker 1: in me. But if I grow out a mustache, it's
Speaker 1: not my fault. It's the mustache. Oh my god and all.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just thought it was funny like,
Speaker 1: and well was actually the first the first time I
Speaker 1: saw Wells, he was like, it takes a really bold
Speaker 1: man to have that kind of mustache on national television.
Speaker 1: And my point was is like, yeah, I like people
Speaker 1: come in here, they try to like polish themselves up
Speaker 1: and put their best foot forward. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go down there looking as grungy as I
Speaker 1: possibly can. I eat the mustache and looks it was fine.
Speaker 1: I will say it was a little hot, you know,
Speaker 1: ninety degrees plus a hundred percent humidity with a two
Speaker 1: inch lip caterpillar, it kind of adds to the heat
Speaker 1: and the sweat a little bit. The conversations initially got
Speaker 1: off to a pretty rough start because you know, people
Speaker 1: come down, You come down and people are expecting to
Speaker 1: see you in some sort of way, and you don't
Speaker 1: really meet their expectations in that way. But I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a good icebreaker it's a well okay, and
Speaker 1: that's that was part of it too, my first icebreaker
Speaker 1: because I'm I don't know if Vanessa knows this, but
Speaker 1: Jared obviously does. When you come down the stairs, your
Speaker 1: first task is to like pull four or five people
Speaker 1: you might be interested in going on a day it
Speaker 1: with and like having a conversation to see if there
Speaker 1: might be chemistry to explore further. It's excruciating and everything
Speaker 1: everything I lead with I was like, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: this mustache. I live in a van. I don't really
Speaker 1: have a job. You're like George Casanda from Seinfeld when
Speaker 1: he does everything backwards. I don't have a job and
Speaker 1: I live with my parents. Yeah, my name is George.
Speaker 1: I'm unemployed and I live with my parents. And it
Speaker 1: works for him. My name is Dean. I live in
Speaker 1: a van, and yeah, my name is Dean. I'm unemployed
Speaker 1: and I live with a van. By the way, I
Speaker 1: have a mustache. Would you want to go to Dave?
Speaker 1: I don't use soap? It was, well, are you soap? Now? Oh,
Speaker 1: so we we've done that using sl February. Ever since
Speaker 1: the shingles out break, Detor Deodore I put theodor unjust
Speaker 1: my lift arm pit today because I want a test
Speaker 1: to see how much smell you? Right? A good God,
Speaker 1: let's just move on. I just want to see it's
Speaker 1: an interesting experiment. March. So there was another report that
Speaker 1: came out just yesterday which I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people were stunned by. Actually, before we get to that,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about how about the how's it smelling?
Speaker 1: I might need this third party opinion. Does anyone in
Speaker 1: the stream want to smell armpit? Read his hand very quickly.
Speaker 1: So I've been waiting for you to ask that for years.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, okay, before before we do this, I put
Speaker 1: the odor on one armpit. I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: East which armpit I want to see if you can
Speaker 1: guess which arm pit? Alright, so Eastern, smell the left one.
Speaker 1: Here we go, smell the left one. Left, that's that's there.
Speaker 1: Left arm alright, so okay, now smell the right one.
Speaker 1: Smell the right one. This is going like god fabric.
Speaker 1: All right, come to the microphone. Then what what what
Speaker 1: was your experience? You know, approaching from from far away,
Speaker 1: I thought I could smell it's obvious. It's not that
Speaker 1: clear when it is, So which armpit does Dean have
Speaker 1: a theodor or on he has on his left? It's
Speaker 1: my left. But but did you sense the hesitation and
Speaker 1: his voice? Do they both reek or were they both
Speaker 1: like me? Like? No, they both smelled really good. Actually,
Speaker 1: you've been using can we not? Can I get around
Speaker 1: of a place for that? Please? And Eason obviously for
Speaker 1: putting his mise on the line. I have an armpit fetish.
Speaker 1: It was actually quite fun for me, So yes, the
Speaker 1: point is what was the point of that? Again, I
Speaker 1: don't remember I used the other, but only on one armpit.
Speaker 1: And because your armpits you don't think smell, so you
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that's just like I don't think
Speaker 1: my armpits smell bad enough to where I need to
Speaker 1: introduce a new chemical to them to make them smell better.
Speaker 1: The only the only time my armpits smell is when
Speaker 1: I'm sweating. Well, I don't swear. I'm not really much
Speaker 1: of a sweater. We have this weird genetic disease. I
Speaker 1: don't sweat really, not really either, but I do smell
Speaker 1: like if I get in a hot like last night,
Speaker 1: I was at the backste Boys after party and I
Speaker 1: was like, I was gonna meet them. And then I
Speaker 1: smelled my arm pace and one smelled like I was
Speaker 1: wearing this one I was wearing a top that had
Speaker 1: a sleeve, and the other arm didn't have a sleeve,
Speaker 1: and I forgot to wear the it around on the
Speaker 1: arm that didn't have a sleeve, and that armpit smells
Speaker 1: like cardboard, like we know, like wet cardboard. Oh good god,
Speaker 1: that's a bad smell. Right, Thankfully I didn't end up
Speaker 1: meeting them. But that's not a good thing. We're getting
Speaker 1: track here, sorry to Paradise. Listen, all right, we have
Speaker 1: to quite on purpose. I have a quick question. There
Speaker 1: was another article on the news that reported something about
Speaker 1: you in a particular person down in Paradise that you
Speaker 1: may or may not be dating right now. I don't
Speaker 1: even know why I'm saying it. The headline says I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say her name, but says Bachelor Nations,
Speaker 1: Dean Angler and Blank are dating Mark. I can't say
Speaker 1: her name. I have been told to relate to you.
Speaker 1: Let's please not say her name. And I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if that's for legal reasons or why, but that's what
Speaker 1: I've been told, not by Dean. By the way, by
Speaker 1: people higher up the ladder than Dean because it's on
Speaker 1: the news. This is not a salacious good I understand
Speaker 1: still celebrity gossip. They're not going to get the name
Speaker 1: from us. He loses, not the National Enquirer by any means.
Speaker 1: If you know what I have. I have a question
Speaker 1: for Dean, because he didn't answer me on Instagram. Did
Speaker 1: you go to Europe with a specific person? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want a lot of my great friends. We did Greece
Speaker 1: for a couple of female a female friend. Not liberty
Speaker 1: to discuss any of this stuff, but I said I
Speaker 1: was in Europe for the Passion Net for weeks with
Speaker 1: a lot of great friends. I sailed on a boat
Speaker 1: in Greece for a while. I went to Spain, I
Speaker 1: like through the Dolomites in Italy. And that's all I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say about I'm very interested why we can't say
Speaker 1: her name because there's an article on E News, People
Speaker 1: magazine and US Weekly. He's all saying it. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna tell you guys what you can
Speaker 1: and can't do. All I'm gonna say is whether you
Speaker 1: say this person's name or not. I'm going to give
Speaker 1: the same cryptic answer, and that is I can't discuss it.
Speaker 1: Great cryptic answer. It was like, there was this weird
Speaker 1: I feel like someone's making a phone call. I think
Speaker 1: your phone's on or something like that, or someone maybe
Speaker 1: your computer is making noise. That's sorry. Um. The point
Speaker 1: is is that I think she's beautiful. I think you
Speaker 1: guys should just watch Bachelor in Paradise. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: to watch the mustache for a couple episodes. Maybe you
Speaker 1: want to see the mustache on a couple episodes. I
Speaker 1: don't know. The teaser is the mustache? All right? I
Speaker 1: have to ask one thing before ago, because this was
Speaker 1: widely talked about for quite a while. Uh, you recently
Speaker 1: said months ago about bachelor relationships and how you think
Speaker 1: they're all there. But it's just we've talked about them
Speaker 1: many times. Yeah, now put them on the spot. But
Speaker 1: we can just have a conversation about it, because I
Speaker 1: think people would be mad if we didn't at least
Speaker 1: address it. So now you went back on the show,
Speaker 1: So what changed your mind? What changed my mind to
Speaker 1: go back on the show. Well, obviously you went on
Speaker 1: Paradise for the experience and thinking I'll meet some people
Speaker 1: and we'll see what comes from it. But a couple
Speaker 1: months ago you said that all Batchelor relationships are fake,
Speaker 1: and you've kind of changed, you know, you've obviously it
Speaker 1: wasn't you. You didn't exactly mean it that way. Truth will,
Speaker 1: truth be told. I went on the show not looking
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship with anyone. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: whether I am in a relationship now or I'm not.
Speaker 1: But I went on the show with zero intention to
Speaker 1: leave the show in a relationship. Does that degrade the
Speaker 1: integrity of the show, Probably a little bit. Now it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Then I'll tell you why. We'll continue with you, and
Speaker 1: then I'll tell you why. I think it's a good answer.
Speaker 1: And I went and with the attention of just you know,
Speaker 1: like we all do. We go on the show, you
Speaker 1: gotta sit on the beach for a little bit, relax,
Speaker 1: have some drinks, hit me, some new people, hang out, whatever.
Speaker 1: I went on the show without without expecting to leave
Speaker 1: in a relationship, almost actually fighting it to leave in
Speaker 1: a relationship. Um, there's there's a couple of people down
Speaker 1: there that I've been in relationships with in the past,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it even before I went on
Speaker 1: the show, and I was like telling them, I was like, look,
Speaker 1: I have no intention of leaving in a relationship even
Speaker 1: before going on the show with anyone. Uh, because I
Speaker 1: know that I've said these things Batchel relationships are all
Speaker 1: fake blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I put
Speaker 1: my foot in my mouth every chance I possibly get,
Speaker 1: and I probably will do it many many more times. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think when I said that, I think, as
Speaker 1: we talked about just after it happened, that you know,
Speaker 1: that was coming off like a heated uh uh moment,
Speaker 1: and I learned some things I didn't like, and I
Speaker 1: was beside myself and I was upset, and I was venting,
Speaker 1: and I was being extreme and radical because of those things.
Speaker 1: So now, so yes, I don't think that all Bachelor
Speaker 1: relationships are fake. Uh. That does that answer your question? Yeah? Totally.
Speaker 1: The whole reason I asked it was because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people immediately assume that you have to
Speaker 1: go into these experiences, specifically the Bachelor experiences, with being
Speaker 1: in being like I am, I'm here only for a
Speaker 1: relationship and only for love. And I've always said that
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous and naive and really dumb. And I think
Speaker 1: you're a great example of somebody now that it may
Speaker 1: or may not have come out that you're in a
Speaker 1: relationship um of someone going in and being like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm going down and just being myself and
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens, and I'm not coming here just for
Speaker 1: love or anything like that, and then the life happens,
Speaker 1: and then you end up maybe finding someone and and
Speaker 1: developing feelings for someone. And I feel like that's a
Speaker 1: good example not only for Bachelor, but just for life
Speaker 1: in general, because sometimes it's always when you're least expecting
Speaker 1: it is when you find something great. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a cool example of it. I will say that
Speaker 1: there this was probably my best season of Bachelor since
Speaker 1: the first one. Of all of them, actually love the
Speaker 1: four that I've been on, this is probably my favorite
Speaker 1: for many many reasons. One because of that I went
Speaker 1: down the stairs this time Bachelor Paradise season six, my
Speaker 1: fourth time around, with the intention and understanding that like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be me with this ridiculous mustache, talking
Speaker 1: about myself as I always do, and see what comes
Speaker 1: of it. If something comes of it, great I'm not
Speaker 1: expecting it. In fact, I almost prefer for nothing to
Speaker 1: come with it. Um, And so I think that you'll
Speaker 1: see that side of me. For the first time in
Speaker 1: all four seasons. I stayed completely sober the entire time,
Speaker 1: which which is a challenging thing in those in that
Speaker 1: circumstance because you always you get bored a lot. All
Speaker 1: you want to do is drink. Your friends are all drinking,
Speaker 1: All you want to do is join them. Grant, And
Speaker 1: I wasn't down I'm not gonna say how long I
Speaker 1: was down there for, but I wasn't down there obviously
Speaker 1: as original cast, so I wasn't there the whole time. Um,
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to watch it back. Like obviously, you
Speaker 1: always have your reservations and your concerns about how they're
Speaker 1: going to edit you and what they're gonna do to you.
Speaker 1: But for the first time, I'm finally like, I don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about being drunk and saying something stupid
Speaker 1: on camera because I didn't get drunk and say I
Speaker 1: still said stupid things on camera, but I didn't get
Speaker 1: drunk and say stupid things on camera. Concerns about like
Speaker 1: last how did you feel laugh time when you love
Speaker 1: did you know you were screwed last time? When you okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you feel good this time? I feel better this time? Um?
Speaker 1: Good or bad? Obviously? Like like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship. After all of it, this is
Speaker 1: said and done. Well, apparently, People, magazine, US Weekly, and
Speaker 1: the news all know you are. So I've been authorized
Speaker 1: to ask you the question are you single? I think
Speaker 1: that you're just gonna have to watch this season of
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and decide for yourself. It's all said
Speaker 1: and done. That's fair enough. Great tease. Well, speaking of
Speaker 1: great tease, we have a wonderful guest coming up, Tina Wilson,
Speaker 1: who is the founder of Wingman, a new dating app.
Speaker 1: It's revolutionizing the world, except for Canada because they don't
Speaker 1: have it up there, but they have it everywhere else. Um.
Speaker 1: So we'll be talking to Tina Wilson, but first let's
Speaker 1: take a little break. Hello everyone, and welcome back to
Speaker 1: help I suck at dating up. Next on the phone,
Speaker 1: we have Tina Wilson, who is the founder of Wingman
Speaker 1: dating app. Tina, are you there? Hello, Yes, I am Hi.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. How are you guys? We're doing
Speaker 1: We're doing well. This is Jared right, Hi, this has
Speaker 1: been saying just walk up. It sounded like she didn't spoil.
Speaker 1: It's early. It's early somewhere. So we just told the
Speaker 1: listeners out there that you are the founder of the
Speaker 1: Wingman dating app. But do you want to tell everyone
Speaker 1: else a little bit more about it and how you
Speaker 1: came up with the idea. Yeah, I mean so, Wingman
Speaker 1: is an app where you are going to pass over
Speaker 1: control of your online dating experience. You're going to pass
Speaker 1: it over to those that know you bett, so your friends,
Speaker 1: your family, and these people are going to be your
Speaker 1: wingmen and wing women, and they're going to be navigating
Speaker 1: your dating journey. So they're going to be creating your profile,
Speaker 1: telling us the good about ugly. They're going to be
Speaker 1: introducing you to whoever they beeing appropriate on the app,
Speaker 1: and so they're making the matches happen while you sit
Speaker 1: back and let them have control. That sounds terrifying. Wow,
Speaker 1: it depends who your wing man is, right, I guess
Speaker 1: it does. So I agree with that. It does sound
Speaker 1: a little terrifying. So tell us a little more about
Speaker 1: how you came up with the idea. Well, I was
Speaker 1: I was in a long term relationship. I found myself
Speaker 1: single and everyone had gone online whilest I was coupled up,
Speaker 1: and I mean it was I went through all of
Speaker 1: the different apps and it was pretty bonkers, right, some
Speaker 1: of these experiences on there. There's a whole new vocabulary
Speaker 1: cat fishing and um, what's skitting and breadcrumbing, all these
Speaker 1: different things, And and for me, I just wanted a
Speaker 1: more kind of impactful way, something that was slightly more authentic.
Speaker 1: And and so having someone described your profile I kind
Speaker 1: of legitimizes who you are, endorses your your personality, and
Speaker 1: and then having a lens of somebody else that's not
Speaker 1: you know, recently single. You come to these apps with
Speaker 1: different maybe a different ends that you you know that
Speaker 1: you've built up um since being single, and and sometimes
Speaker 1: I think having a friend who is objective and maybe
Speaker 1: providing you with options like this is who you should
Speaker 1: go with? What about this person? Have you? You know?
Speaker 1: And making those those things which can sometimes happen in
Speaker 1: the world offline, right, And so that's something that I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring onto the platform so that it behaved
Speaker 1: as we do in the real world. So can your
Speaker 1: friend is your friend chatting with the person on the app? No,
Speaker 1: So so whatever you're from when you're if you invite
Speaker 1: your friend to write your profile, you have to approve
Speaker 1: what they've said about you, so they can't go too crazy.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to approve it. And then what
Speaker 1: happens is when they are looking through the dating feed,
Speaker 1: when they see someone they think would be a good match,
Speaker 1: they are sending your profile. They do like my friend Vanessa,
Speaker 1: and that person is saying yes or no. Right, It's like,
Speaker 1: I think my my friend would be a good match
Speaker 1: for you. Is it a yes or no? Now, if
Speaker 1: it's a no, you never know. If it's a yes,
Speaker 1: everyone's notified, like, hey, this person is interested in you
Speaker 1: and your friend made do a match, so you both
Speaker 1: have So both you and your quote unquote wingman have
Speaker 1: to have the app download in order to get matches. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you have to approve what they said. Correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, But it sounds to me like the the
Speaker 1: the Wingman caters more towards the female audience, right because
Speaker 1: as a guy, yeah, you have your friends that like
Speaker 1: vouch for you and stuff. Like that. But I feel
Speaker 1: like women typically are the ones that go to bat
Speaker 1: more for their other friends when it comes to dating, right, Like,
Speaker 1: my guy friends would never go to the length of
Speaker 1: creating a profile and talking me up to people digitally
Speaker 1: to then like set me up on a date with them. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I said. It was terrifying earlier because I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of some of my friends who would describe me
Speaker 1: in my profile and it probably wouldn't be the most
Speaker 1: flattering exactly. So that's why to me, at least, it
Speaker 1: sounds like the wingman. I'm sure obviously there are many
Speaker 1: many men that are wingman, but to me, it just
Speaker 1: sounds like the wingman typically would be a woman. But
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. No, you're absolutely right. So
Speaker 1: are female matchmakers are the ones that come on, but
Speaker 1: they bring their single guys on, right, So they bring
Speaker 1: their brothers, their cousins, their male friends from college. So
Speaker 1: they generally are the ones who kind of elevate them
Speaker 1: and give them a bit of a push, almost like
Speaker 1: this is what you should be doing, Like, let me
Speaker 1: suggest this to you in almost like a big sister approach.
Speaker 1: But I has almost come on with a twisted arm
Speaker 1: but they're kind of, you know, into it. But so
Speaker 1: there are there are men wingmen. Absolutely. I read one
Speaker 1: just the other day which was a guy who said,
Speaker 1: I'm putting my sister in law on here. She's been
Speaker 1: our third wheel for so long, Like I married us
Speaker 1: sister three years ago. Who knew I'd have to pay
Speaker 1: the check for both of them for this long? I
Speaker 1: thought by now she'd have found a boyfriend. Please. There
Speaker 1: has to be a guy out there to help her out.
Speaker 1: And it really rade me laugh because it's kind of
Speaker 1: something that someone might stay in the real world, and
Speaker 1: it came across like their whole band terous relationship came across.
Speaker 1: Really a fun right, I love this idea. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: honestly think it's genius. It's funny because you always see
Speaker 1: these new dating apps come out with different iterations of
Speaker 1: each other, and I always often sit and wonder, like,
Speaker 1: what could be the next what could be a new
Speaker 1: angle that you could come at this with. And a
Speaker 1: lot of apps are so so similar, but this is
Speaker 1: this is the one that sounds like it's really uniquely
Speaker 1: different than the other ones. It truly is, and it
Speaker 1: comes from a point of really being frustrated from my
Speaker 1: own experiences, right, and wanting to help people that are
Speaker 1: in my life, which is like, my mother is an
Speaker 1: amazing woman, right she would you know, she was a
Speaker 1: widow for many many years. Would she ever meet anyone?
Speaker 1: Probably not? Right, But if I was to write her
Speaker 1: a profile and say, hey, you know, it's my stepdad
Speaker 1: out there, like look if we're a rich one to
Speaker 1: my mom, like making a joke, even if she wasn't
Speaker 1: going to do anything, it kind of just gave her
Speaker 1: a joke along the way, like let her elevate that
Speaker 1: maybe it could happen. So I think, because it really is.
Speaker 1: We have people on the app from the ages of
Speaker 1: eighteen to seventy two, right, we have like a grandmother
Speaker 1: who wrote a profile for her grandson like he invited
Speaker 1: her to be part of his day in journey, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love that. Right, this guy is a
Speaker 1: really cool little like little dude. Yeah he still loves
Speaker 1: this man enough to let her write a profile, she
Speaker 1: must have probably made her days. She probably is talking
Speaker 1: about it to all of her friends and just almost
Speaker 1: like connects them. And also you get there, you know,
Speaker 1: you get there for me. If there was any way
Speaker 1: to kind of really describe it if like sex in
Speaker 1: the City in a way, like you have a lot
Speaker 1: of gay guys writing profiles for their straight girlfriends and
Speaker 1: vice versa, and those are the conversations that I feel
Speaker 1: like I was seeing sex in the city, whereas you know,
Speaker 1: the gay guys like she's got a hot body under
Speaker 1: that ugly jumper, don't let it put you off. Like
Speaker 1: some of the profiles they write are so funny and
Speaker 1: kind of on point. You really get an idea of
Speaker 1: the friendship group, of what you'd be walking into the
Speaker 1: date in this circle. So subconsciously, even though you're giving
Speaker 1: someone endorsement, you're also painting a picture of who that
Speaker 1: person hangs out with. They might be a little crazy,
Speaker 1: they might be a little boring, whatever it is, it's
Speaker 1: always done with the good intentions of helping that person,
Speaker 1: you know, elevate them to be, to find their best person.
Speaker 1: But vicariously, I feel like the wing people they kind
Speaker 1: of get to know, they love being part of it,
Speaker 1: They get into it. Lots of these people are in
Speaker 1: relationships they probably missed out on the dating scene, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they're the best adversates, right because friends really do
Speaker 1: know you so well or family that and so for me,
Speaker 1: when my friends wrote me a profile, I sounded really
Speaker 1: like excellent and amusing. But when I wrote my own profile,
Speaker 1: I was kind of so on the fence and be
Speaker 1: politically correct and not too self promotional and not to degress.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was tough to get a real authentic
Speaker 1: kind of view of myself aclass. So when my friends
Speaker 1: wrote it, they were really fun. It's funny because the
Speaker 1: same logic I think applies to a lot of people
Speaker 1: that go on the Bachelor to a lot of people
Speaker 1: will have their friends and I'm it then versus going
Speaker 1: through the process themselves just because it's easier. I guess
Speaker 1: it relieves the pressure or maybe like the well, it's
Speaker 1: hard to describe yourself to be like yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I'm a nice person, you know. It's it's weird where
Speaker 1: your friend can be like, no, he's a nice guy.
Speaker 1: Vouching for him exactly shows that you're not like a
Speaker 1: crazy person. He's just some friends or family who's going
Speaker 1: about you as well. I mean, if I had a
Speaker 1: grandma who was seventy two and made an account for
Speaker 1: me to help find a girlfriend, I would be still
Speaker 1: so yeah. On the flip side that if I was so,
Speaker 1: if I was looking to date someone and their grandmother
Speaker 1: was vouching for them, like, that's the that's the cutest
Speaker 1: damn thing I've ever seen. You first day would be
Speaker 1: church on Sunday. Rights, probably a crazy one. How long
Speaker 1: has that happen? Around? For almost two years? Right? So
Speaker 1: we launched it in Vada. It's kind of eighteen months ago, really,
Speaker 1: um and that was an iOS and we launched it
Speaker 1: last year on Android. It's in the US and and
Speaker 1: the UK, and yeah, we're just seeing such interesting things happen.
Speaker 1: I love to see people really helping their you know,
Speaker 1: going the extra mile and helping them. And then when
Speaker 1: you see the validation and things happening, I do like
Speaker 1: a little secret, secret Horai behind the scenes. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: sounds like a digital way of your friends signing you
Speaker 1: up for a blind date. Because my question is when
Speaker 1: your friend says no to someone you said that you
Speaker 1: don't get to see it. What if that? So? So
Speaker 1: what happens if you will wing man for Vanessa and
Speaker 1: you were like sending Vanessa's profile to whoever to say,
Speaker 1: ten other people and saying, you know, I think Vanessa
Speaker 1: big with Matthi when they say no. Vanessa never knows
Speaker 1: who you send yes the rejection. They never get rejection.
Speaker 1: You never get the rejection. Okay, so this is not
Speaker 1: a it's not a public dating app. It's not where
Speaker 1: random people get to see random people. It's so if
Speaker 1: I'm Vanessa's wingman, the only way people see Vanessa's profile
Speaker 1: is if I send it to them. They can, but
Speaker 1: Vanessa will be shown in the feed also so they
Speaker 1: can approach her. Also see the testimony that you've written
Speaker 1: about her. My main fear with this app is if
Speaker 1: if I was on it, right, Let's say I was
Speaker 1: begrudgingly looking for a relationship when one of my friends
Speaker 1: signed me up to be my wingman, my concern would
Speaker 1: be that my friends don't necessarily have my my type
Speaker 1: calibrated well enough, and they would be setting me up
Speaker 1: for dates that I wouldn't necessarily with people that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't nessily be interested in. It's all depending on the wingman, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and that's your choice, right, You seek the wing
Speaker 1: man goes rose and you're like, this is not for me.
Speaker 1: You just delete them off. People do do that you
Speaker 1: can get rid of. Yeah, You're like, he's a bad
Speaker 1: wing man, and you could and it's your choice where
Speaker 1: you have. The power still lays in your hand. It's
Speaker 1: just who you trust. I guess to be that person.
Speaker 1: Can I have multiple wing men? Like, can I have
Speaker 1: five best friends that then get put in a group
Speaker 1: chat with someone that I'm interested in potentially? Well, you
Speaker 1: can have up to five people looking for you. And
Speaker 1: so many people do feel those slots, but they're always
Speaker 1: just the with it. But they're so spread out. But
Speaker 1: there's usually two family, two friends, maybe a coworker or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a real mix. Sounds fine. It sounds
Speaker 1: like as a wingman, you get to like be on
Speaker 1: a dating app without looking to data, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like that sounds kind of fun. I would be,
Speaker 1: and you're helping your friend at the same time, and
Speaker 1: it's like a perfect idea to um, Like if someone
Speaker 1: is reluctant, because I know so many people who are
Speaker 1: either getting divorced or who have been single for such
Speaker 1: a long time and they don't have the courage or
Speaker 1: the confidence, so I go on a dating app because
Speaker 1: they've never done it or they haven't dated anyone in
Speaker 1: a really long time, so this gives them like that
Speaker 1: push to date and I hope that they could go
Speaker 1: on another day. But just to clarify, because I went
Speaker 1: on the I went on UM, I went to find
Speaker 1: the app. I'm in Canada. It doesn't it doesn't exist
Speaker 1: in Canada. It's not out there in Canada. But we
Speaker 1: all got to be launching their life in the year,
Speaker 1: but it's not there officially. No, okay, perfect, so later
Speaker 1: this year I can hope up my friends and family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, to your point that you just said
Speaker 1: that people when they are not maybe confident enough to
Speaker 1: get on the fact is you know how right they are, right,
Speaker 1: you know what's winging about them, and you know they
Speaker 1: deserve the best. It's just like sometimes as humans we
Speaker 1: need a little push, and I think that's it's up
Speaker 1: to your wings men and wing women to kind of
Speaker 1: puss you out and do that advanced. I'd be more
Speaker 1: on this app. If I was trying to find dates
Speaker 1: for Vanessa, then I would be on a date, trying
Speaker 1: to like find yourself. Yeah, find myself? Yea, like screw me?
Speaker 1: Who wants to da Vanessa? Yes, you might be a
Speaker 1: good wing that that would be really fun. If a
Speaker 1: lot of like to say, all of the Olive Hannah
Speaker 1: Bees rejects all jumped on Wingman and like for the
Speaker 1: second place finish, or they're like, all, we're gonna find
Speaker 1: you someone on this app. Now it would be funny,
Speaker 1: that could be really um so you said it's on
Speaker 1: iOS and android, right, Yes it is, yes, and and
Speaker 1: then I didn't hear the answer to Vanessa's question. It's
Speaker 1: just in the US, but it's it's branching out as well,
Speaker 1: so in U s UK. And then we're going to
Speaker 1: be opening up in different countries and kind of be
Speaker 1: one of them pretty soon. Do you have any do
Speaker 1: you have a social media presence? We all wing Man app,
Speaker 1: wing Man app, and we are really anything to do
Speaker 1: with crazy friends or animals is what you'll find on there,
Speaker 1: because everyone that's working on when Man seems to be
Speaker 1: obsessed by animals. Um, so there's always there's always those.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we kind of interact with with people that
Speaker 1: we are about dating, but we are also much so
Speaker 1: much more of like celebration of friendship, so we really
Speaker 1: do kind of push towards those other types of networks.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think one of my favorite things
Speaker 1: about this too. And It's one thing that I've talked
Speaker 1: about in the past is I think it's so important
Speaker 1: for your significant other or perspective significant other to meet
Speaker 1: your friends early on, because your friends are the people
Speaker 1: that you hold closest and dearest to you, right and
Speaker 1: obviously you want their approval and you want your significantly
Speaker 1: to approve of them. And so what's great about this
Speaker 1: is it just kind of knocks all those pins over
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, right. And also for the
Speaker 1: other person that like, let's say I'm dating you, I
Speaker 1: want to see, like what I vibe with his friends
Speaker 1: or how is he influenced by the group of friends
Speaker 1: that he's hanging out with. So it's a win win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just got to choose your friends out of the
Speaker 1: least delinquent out of all of them, which for me,
Speaker 1: don't let don't let them all the drunk or delinquency
Speaker 1: or anything like that. The good one, I don't know,
Speaker 1: drunk could be fun. All right, Well, Tina, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. If you're listening and you
Speaker 1: want to give them to try, go download it. It's
Speaker 1: on iOS and android, um check him out on Instagram's
Speaker 1: at Wingman. I would assume Yeah, it's a Wingman underscore app. Okay,
Speaker 1: check them out, give it a download if you're looking
Speaker 1: to day, if you have a friend that's looking to day.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's a fun thing. And then emails
Speaker 1: your stories because I think it'd be fun to share
Speaker 1: similar stories on the podcast here as well. Um, thank you,
Speaker 1: luck moving Forwida, Thanks yeah, thanks for Tina, thank you, thanks,
Speaker 1: take care bye, guys. All right, well, let's talk about
Speaker 1: I love that idea. Can we just talk about how
Speaker 1: much I love that idea? Yeah, let's talk about do
Speaker 1: you have any friends that you'd want to sign up
Speaker 1: for that? Oh my god. There's so many people that
Speaker 1: I know, like I said, that are either going through
Speaker 1: a divorce or have been single for a really long time,
Speaker 1: or just got out of got out of a long
Speaker 1: term relationship, and and they've tried the apps. And I
Speaker 1: mean I was on Riya and I didn't like. I
Speaker 1: went on Riot for maybe a month before my now
Speaker 1: boyfriend slid into my d MS on Instagram. I feel
Speaker 1: like Instagrams are great dating app. It is well for
Speaker 1: for people that it is it is. I've I've heard
Speaker 1: that before that people use Instagram as a dating app.
Speaker 1: I think for people like us, it makes a little easier.
Speaker 1: We have a little more exposure, I think, so it's
Speaker 1: like a little things are a little more accessible to
Speaker 1: us as a dating app solely for Instagram and also
Speaker 1: because of the show we curate, our Instagram is a
Speaker 1: little bit more so when we're trying to talk to
Speaker 1: someone on Instagram, I think we feel a little bit
Speaker 1: more confident because, well, there's a lot of people out
Speaker 1: there that they'll use Instagram, so they might have like
Speaker 1: one picture posted and profile is not really updated. And
Speaker 1: you go on a dating show, people will reach out
Speaker 1: to and hopes that you would go on a date
Speaker 1: with them, and obviously our marriage proposals or things of
Speaker 1: that nature. But I guess what's funny to Vanessa's point
Speaker 1: and the reason I asked that very first question I
Speaker 1: did with Tina was that I don't think I have
Speaker 1: a single friend I would sign up for wiman because
Speaker 1: all my as a guy, it's just like, none of
Speaker 1: my friends I think are of the caliber that the
Speaker 1: Wingman app would be looking for, like as a as
Speaker 1: a twenty year old guy that lives in l A
Speaker 1: formerly lived in l A. I don't think I have
Speaker 1: any friends that are looking to be in serious relationships,
Speaker 1: so it would almost make me feel guilty to put
Speaker 1: them on man. But well, if you have like divorcees
Speaker 1: or like um as a woman, you're like, you want
Speaker 1: your friends to be in relationships, et cetera. But it
Speaker 1: just it seems like it's more catered or tailored towards
Speaker 1: a woman. As a wingman, yeah, well, you're the one
Speaker 1: vouching for them. You don't want to be the jerk
Speaker 1: vouching for your friend who ends up cheating on the
Speaker 1: girl that you put them on a date together. Nobody
Speaker 1: wants me that guy or a girl. Sounds like a a
Speaker 1: cool idea, though it could be fun. We have some
Speaker 1: emails coming up. We got I got one I want
Speaker 1: to get in here before we go. That's from anonymous
Speaker 1: unmous good. Yeah, and it's it's juicy. My husband and
Speaker 1: I have been together for five years and we talked
Speaker 1: about having a threesome. My husband and his whole pilot
Speaker 1: crew got very drunk and my husband was left alone
Speaker 1: with one particular flight attendant. She came on to him.
Speaker 1: He said no, but asked if she would be interested
Speaker 1: in the threesome. She said yes, so we called me
Speaker 1: and told me what happened. Then my stomach dropped. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I find it to be a bad idea. She's a coworker,
Speaker 1: and I feel really jealous and uncomfortable that she came
Speaker 1: on to you. I still want it, but I can't
Speaker 1: help a wonder if a threesome would ruin our marriage
Speaker 1: or not. Should a threesome be out of the question
Speaker 1: at this point, so many feelings about want too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she says at the beginning that we have talked about,
Speaker 1: and then she says at the end, I still want it.
Speaker 1: It's just this woman makes me really uncomfortable. Wait, how
Speaker 1: long have you been married? For five years to five years?
Speaker 1: I think the challenging thing about this anonymous situation is
Speaker 1: that it's a is that it's a coworker, and it's
Speaker 1: someone that this guy is gonna have to see on
Speaker 1: a regular basis, on a regular basis, especially with the
Speaker 1: wife not around. Like that's reason enough I think to
Speaker 1: probably nix it with this person. But if you're interested
Speaker 1: enough with find someone else, a stranger that you're never
Speaker 1: gonna have to interact with again. That's my advice. I
Speaker 1: have you had a threesome? Jar yes, yes, yes, I've
Speaker 1: had three. I had a three C in college once
Speaker 1: when I was like night, it's nineteen okay, and that's
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say about it. Well, you three, if
Speaker 1: you want to have a threeesome, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Can we ask if it was two girls or one?
Speaker 1: I said, that's all i'm gonna say about it. Discussed before.
Speaker 1: I feel I've been open about it. The color of
Speaker 1: your sunglasses and it was not very red. Right now,
Speaker 1: there's two types of threesomes in this world that guys
Speaker 1: want to have, and I had the one that was
Speaker 1: less desirable than the one that most guys want to have.
Speaker 1: And if I remember, this was not a great experience
Speaker 1: for you, and it was a bad experience, but like
Speaker 1: you didn't feel you felt a little weird about it.
Speaker 1: It was to salvage of friendship. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: layers here, and you had a threesome to your frownship.
Speaker 1: We all knew each other, we were all we were
Speaker 1: all friends. It was a very communal effort. So you
Speaker 1: guys weren't going to be friends anymore until one day, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's all have sex together to say ave the friendship. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's exactly the conversation. To me, we were really drunk,
Speaker 1: we were nineteen. There's a lot at work here that
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable talking about, but we can talk
Speaker 1: about it whatever. I don't care. Well, I'm I'm kind
Speaker 1: of on Vanessa's page too, where yeah, threesome sounds awesome,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, when you're in love with someone,
Speaker 1: I think that creates a level of difficulty because then
Speaker 1: you're with that person and then you're trying to sleep
Speaker 1: with someone else while they're in the room with you,
Speaker 1: and it creates this awkwardness because you know, you were
Speaker 1: the episode of Entourage where Ian Sloan potentially want to
Speaker 1: have a threesome with Sloan's best friend, and the rule
Speaker 1: was that the guy can only have sex with his wife, right,
Speaker 1: and then he could like the other girl and the
Speaker 1: girl the two girls can interact, but the guy can
Speaker 1: only have sex with his wife. Could he have could
Speaker 1: he like make out with the other girl? Probably? But
Speaker 1: I think that there needs to be rules set if
Speaker 1: this is gonna be something you want to do, like
Speaker 1: set some rules, be like, hey, there's not gonna be
Speaker 1: any penetration between you and this other girl, like that
Speaker 1: seems to be the best route. And I stand by
Speaker 1: what I said earlier, where don't do it with someone
Speaker 1: that you work with, do it with if you want
Speaker 1: to do it with a stranger. But how do you
Speaker 1: ask a stranger if they want to freesome? Sure, there's
Speaker 1: plenty of ways. I think you just ask a stranger.
Speaker 1: You just go up on the side streak. Excuse me, lady.
Speaker 1: I mean I have a really good friend who was
Speaker 1: dating someone for a long time and basically did that.
Speaker 1: They were at a party and and she said that
Speaker 1: they were both interested in and they found some girl
Speaker 1: that they were both attracted to the aster and she
Speaker 1: said yes, And I think that's a lot better than
Speaker 1: doing it with someone you work with. I agree, because
Speaker 1: then it's, like you said, now, it's it creates an
Speaker 1: awkwardness because if the pilot sees this flight attendant and
Speaker 1: the wife isn't there is there like sexual chemistry now
Speaker 1: between the two of them when the wife's not there,
Speaker 1: as if I was the wife. But I feel super
Speaker 1: uncomfortable of that situation. And doesn't that open up doors
Speaker 1: to potentially like you have it once and then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's have another threesome and then it's like a constant
Speaker 1: chase for something more. I will be here. I think
Speaker 1: we should also speak directly to Anonymous and say that
Speaker 1: you should didn't want to do this solely because your
Speaker 1: husband wants to do it, right, like, you should definitely
Speaker 1: want to do on your own. And that seems to
Speaker 1: be like I'm sure that she's probably fighting herself, be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want this because I want to make my husband happy,
Speaker 1: But do I actually want this for myself. I think
Speaker 1: that's a question that she needs to address with herself.
Speaker 1: And there's other ways to spice up your sex life, Like,
Speaker 1: for example, if if Anonymous here doesn't feel comfortable about
Speaker 1: doing a threesome but she wants to do something for
Speaker 1: her husband to really spice up the sex life, there
Speaker 1: is other things that you can do besides having a threesome. Vanessa,
Speaker 1: I don't want to make this awkward for you, but
Speaker 1: I do see Nick post a lot on his stories
Speaker 1: about how he likes his significantly to wear wigs every
Speaker 1: once in a while. Is that a thing I'm just
Speaker 1: making up now? I'm pretty sure I saw it on
Speaker 1: his Instagram. Vanessa. Do you own any way? No, I
Speaker 1: don't own any ways. It couldn't be a way to
Speaker 1: spice things up for this person or for anyone else
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know that's I think that's I
Speaker 1: think we Ade quickly answered it. I would say, no
Speaker 1: flight attendant idea. Just throw that one out the door
Speaker 1: from us. I think a threesome in a committed relationship
Speaker 1: is the beginning of the end in my opinion, to
Speaker 1: be that's an unpopular opinion, but I think we'll bring
Speaker 1: up emotions that you don't anticipate, which actually you're kind
Speaker 1: of already feeling. And I think it's a bad idea. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't cross that anyways. Al Right, email us when you
Speaker 1: meet a stranger and you have a threesome with them,
Speaker 1: not with this flight attendant, because that's gonna make things
Speaker 1: messier than they probably already are. Anyways, that'll do it
Speaker 1: for this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating?
Speaker 1: Big thank you to all of our guests. Tina Wilson,
Speaker 1: be sure to check out her app Wingman on iOS
Speaker 1: and Android, and also Sean and Megan. The big thank
Speaker 1: you to Sean Lorda's and Megan Thomas. Be sure to
Speaker 1: check out Marrying Millionaires. Wednesday, Nights ten PM on Lifetime.
Speaker 1: Big thank you too. That's it. Actually, thank you guys
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Be sure to tune in
Speaker 1: next week. Actually, we're all gonna be together for next
Speaker 1: week's episode and Tahoe, but we gotta talk about that.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, Vanessa is gonna be in
Speaker 1: studio next year. Vanessa is gonna be in studio with
Speaker 1: her boyfriends, so you don't want to miss that episode.
Speaker 1: Be sure to tune in. We're gonna dive deep, deep
Speaker 1: into their love life. Thank you so much. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for listening to this week's episode. Be sure
Speaker 1: to tune in then because maybe we'll suck a little
Speaker 1: bit less. Follow help by Suck at Dating with Dean,
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