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Speaker 1: Music Lands Stories, we have a brand new episode, episode six,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it, hey, discos. Need a little more

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Speaker 1: Disgraceland in your life, just to touch to get you through. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland. The after Partie. Welcome to the Disgraceland

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Speaker 1: bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the

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Speaker 1: after party. This is the show after the show, the

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Speaker 1: to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are

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Speaker 1: talking about, among other things, Surge Gainsburg, Madonna, and of

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Speaker 1: course your voicemails. Texts, dms and more and as always,

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of rosa. All right, just goes. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into it this week in Disgraceland. Come with me, Come, come, come, come,

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Speaker 1: as we travel over to Paris, France in the late

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Speaker 1: one of their duets, their classic duet Bonnie and Clyde

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Speaker 1: infamous American Outlaws back during the Great Depression, just like

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Speaker 1: from Mark Whu len Kamaki. If I'm saying that wrong, Marku.

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Speaker 3: Man's keep it up, no matter what you call it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks dude, David allen Coe. You know this has been

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Speaker 1: great I know she's not from New York. I know

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Speaker 1: And I really tried to nail that in the Madonna episode.

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Speaker 1: Madonna immersed herself from the growing dance club scene of

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Speaker 1: the early eighties in Manhattan, and club culture, a culture

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Speaker 1: that celebrated and flaunted sex, was as big an influence

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Speaker 1: on Madonna as downtown. Her sexuality was hers to play with,

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Speaker 1: for me to explain the greatness and appeal of Madonna's Borderline.

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Speaker 1: The opening notes on the electric piano got me every

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Speaker 1: time I hear them. It's a simple, childlike sound and

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Speaker 1: in a new decade, onto something fresh, fully committed to

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Speaker 1: the promise of the unknown. The feeling is similar to

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Speaker 1: The single was Madonna's first big come on. Her flirtatious

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Speaker 1: It was electric. The casual touch from her hand pushing it,

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Speaker 1: mischievous laugh. Heart melting, the smile, the pout, the abandon,

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Speaker 1: the control. A total turn on. Madonna had made a

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Speaker 1: pass at America, and America was smitten. I love that

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Speaker 1: fucking song. Can you tell? It's so good? It's so, so,

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Speaker 1: so so good. And I love this Madonna episode and

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Speaker 1: I hope you guys do as well. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: It's coming up in your feeds this Friday. Hit me

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Speaker 1: up six one seven, nine oh six sixty six three

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Speaker 1: Twitter x YouTube TikTok at disgracelam pod. I want to

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Speaker 1: read you guys, this dm I got on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: the listener asked that she not be mentioned by name,

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Speaker 1: and she sent in some pictures too. But we released

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Speaker 1: a Sharon Stone episode recently and in the bad Lands feed,

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Speaker 1: and that's what this is in relation too. But this

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Speaker 1: and she's great, and I get why she doesn't want

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Speaker 1: her name mentioned. But I want to read this to

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Speaker 1: because the I'm just so jazzed by this message. Hey

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Speaker 1: like you've read my diary when it comes to your shows,

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Speaker 1: my connections to Scorsese, byork Jane's addiction, we're all tangential,

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Speaker 1: but today you hit home, hit home, all caps. She

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Speaker 1: became fast friends. She encouraged me to move out to

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Speaker 1: and I did just that, and she helped me out.

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Speaker 1: When I got there. Her career was taking off, and

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Speaker 1: she got me extra work on three of her films,

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Speaker 1: the first of which was Basic Instinct. If I have

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Speaker 1: about the day she shot the interrogation scene. I sat

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Speaker 1: behind her at the premiere and heard her gasp when

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Speaker 1: she first saw it. The listener sends, in these pictures,

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Speaker 1: they're so great, I wish I could share them with you.

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Speaker 1: They're from nineteen ninety and their candids of her with

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Speaker 1: Sharon Stone in her kitchen, which, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: candids of Sharon Stone in nineteen ninety are pretty fucking compelling. Myself,

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Speaker 1: Sharon and my ex at a New Year's Eve party

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Speaker 1: in ninety two, and that year she helped me get

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Speaker 1: me a small role in Sliver that ended up on

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Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. Oh well, I'm sharing this with

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Speaker 1: you because I know you'll appreciate and you could share

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Speaker 1: on the show, but please don't use my name. You

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Speaker 1: got it. I just wanted to wanted to share that

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Speaker 1: because we tried really hard here at Graceland and bad Lands.

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Speaker 1: We're all the same crew to tow the line between,

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Speaker 1: you know, what we find in our research, what happened,

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Speaker 1: and how to turn that into something that's that's that

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Speaker 1: adheres to the truth of the story, but is also entertaining.

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Speaker 1: And when we hear from people who were there in

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Speaker 1: on the right track, it just it's really validating, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt like that would be a

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Speaker 1: good share with you guys. So so there you go.

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Speaker 1: Apologize for any If that's perceived as self aggrandizing or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, that's not the point. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like everyone, I get psyched by bold face names

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Speaker 1: and candid photos of Sharon Stone. Can't help me. I

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Speaker 1: can take a quick break six one seven nine oh

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Speaker 1: six six six three eight, voicemail, text, hit me up

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Speaker 1: with anything that's on your mind at disgraced lampod on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: on x on YouTube, on TikTok, back in the flash,

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Speaker 1: all right, welcome back again. Six one seven nine oh six,

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Speaker 1: six six three eight. That's the number you can hit

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Speaker 1: me up at Disgrace lamb pod like we said on Instagram, x, Facebook, YouTube, wherever, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: and let's just recap this all right right now. Number

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Speaker 1: one in your feed, a brand new episode on Serge Gainsburg.

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Speaker 1: Number two coming tomorrow. A rewind episode on Madonna. Number

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Speaker 1: three over in the bad Lands Feed. We got a

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Speaker 1: new episode on Lawrence and Write. Number four next week

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Speaker 1: in the Disgrace Land Feed, a brand new episode on

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Speaker 1: me number six. Remember no one cares about the music

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Speaker 1: you love more than you do. And well that's a disgrace,

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Speaker 1: okay for my moment of bliss in honor of this

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