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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of My

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryan over there,

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Speaker 1: there's guest producer Josh t rocking it out and this

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Speaker 1: other words, there wasn't an emergency. It's like, man, what

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00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: a coincidence that the state senator had the first emergency

424
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: and happened to be standing next to the special phone.

425
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: That's right. They had a special bat phone, a red phone,

426
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: and I think an Alabama congressman was on the other

427
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: end at the police station, Congressman Tom Bevill, known as

428
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: the pork King really not just the Alabama pork King,

429
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: the poor King of Congress. And the state senator said,

430
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: what are you, pork King? What are you doing at

431
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: the police station? I've got an emergency? And he said,

432
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: are we really going to do this? Bit? I would

433
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: force whoever is on the other line to do it.

434
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was all just a big show to say, hey,

435
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 1: we did it first. Uh, they did it a week later.

436
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: They still have a big festival every year too, a

437
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: nine one one festival. I wonder if they re enacted

438
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: this famous phone man, if we could play those two parts,

439
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm the pork King. How great would that be? Forget

440
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: drunk history. Just put us up there. That's cool, um.

441
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: And when I say forget drunk history, I mean we

442
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: very much want to be on it. Are we still

443
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: pursuing that? No, I mean just by occasionally yelling out

444
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: of my window every now and then. Why not the

445
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: crickets are deafening. Yeah, I'm surprised no one said like, hey,

446
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: this is a natural fit. These guys are great storytellers

447
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: about history. They can get drunk with the best of them.

448
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: And we've been saying this for years. So uh No.

449
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: M Alaska about a week later did the same thing,

450
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: and we're the second city. And then throughout the seventies

451
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: and eighties it kind of started rolling out. But it

452
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: takes a while to get this kind of thing going.

453
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: It does because again, it's a local again at best,

454
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: regional system okay, and your local um city might not

455
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: have the money to put in a new telecommunications system

456
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: to be used for emergency services. UM and at first,

457
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, cities that were a little more flush with

458
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: cash because they had a larger tax base had the

459
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: money to roll these out. So as expected, aside from

460
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: hailey Ville and Nome, it was mostly like large metropolitan

461
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: areas that were starting to roll out there the nine

462
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: the earliest nine one one systems, but the Robert Wood

463
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: Johnson Foundation, which was the foundation based on Johnson and

464
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: Johnson's company, UM, they took early interest in this and

465
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: started handing out grants to rural areas to set up

466
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: their own nine one one systems. So ironically, hailey Ville, Alabama,

467
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: had it not jumped on it probably still wouldn't have

468
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: a nine one one system where it not for the

469
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation doling out grants to like, you know,

470
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: small towns around the country for their own Yeah, because

471
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: they're like you know what people call nine one one,

472
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: they go to the hospital. We're using Johnson and Johnson products. Yeah,

473
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: I'm not being overly cynical. I'm sure that you know,

474
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: nine one one is probably good for the band aid business,

475
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: I would guess so. And baby shampoo, Yeah, because if

476
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: you can't get if you can't get an ambulance to

477
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: that person, they're gonna croak. But if you get the

478
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: ambulance to them, right, you don't need band aids when

479
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: you're dead, No, that's it's just like a fact of death.

480
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: But if you survive, you're gonna need a lot of

481
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: band aids depending on what you've done to yourself. That's right.

482
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: Here's some stats for you. By nineteen seventy six, when

483
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: I was five years old, only seventent of the US

484
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: had nine one one. You want to know a surprising fact.

485
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy six, I was just born, Well, you probably

486
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: weren't covered by nine one one. Again, not until nine Well,

487
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: by seven, only fifty percent of the country, which is uh,

488
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's pretty late. I would have thought

489
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: we would have had a lot more of the country

490
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: cover by then, for sure, you would think so. And

491
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't until ninety nine, actually, chuck that um the

492
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: that nine one one officially became the emergency number for

493
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: everywhere in America. Bill Clinton said, let's do this. He said,

494
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: what about nine nine nine? And they went, Bill, please,

495
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: wrong country, Canada. Speaking of wrong countries, they are very

496
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: much the right country because they got on board within

497
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: one as well. That's absolutely true, because they were like, why,

498
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: why make things too difficult? You know, that's a great

499
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: question Canada, And I think the answer to that is

500
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: you shouldn't make things too difficult, just kind of go

501
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: with the flow, should do some more stuff. Here, I

502
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: was thinking, maybe another break. Okay, are you okay with that?

503
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Are you sure? Yes? What about you listeners? Well, we'll

504
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: be right back, Okay, Chuck, Let's talk about how it

505
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: actually works. Yeah, in the early days, obviously it was

506
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: all landline telephones. So when your call got routed to

507
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: the switchboard, which was one switchboard that kidded to that,

508
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: they would patch you across phone lines that were dedicated

509
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: to nine one one to what's called a peace app

510
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: a public safety answering point. And at the time they

511
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: were a lot of times like in the fire department

512
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: or in the police station. Right, so they could just

513
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: turn their chair and be like, Sarge, dispatch some people

514
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: to this address. We've got a suspicious person staring at

515
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: oak trees right again? Right? And um, like originally, like today,

516
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: at nine on one, dispatcher is a highly trained, highly

517
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: skilled person. There's a lot of stuff going on. It's

518
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: like a flight attendant. Remember when we've learned like flight

519
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: attendants are actually trained to save your life in an emergency,

520
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: and they just hand out peanuts is like a side thing. Um,

521
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: this is basically the same thing with the nine eleven

522
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: operator call taker. They know how to do a lot

523
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: of stuff, but the earliest ones just knew how to

524
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: answer the phone, take down your info and then turn

525
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: around and send it off to the fire department or

526
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: the police department or you know, the paramedics or something

527
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: like that. You know, they'd be like, okay, I gotta

528
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: go all right, I'll see you buy right, and then

529
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: they would get off the phone, and that of all

530
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: to the call center. Um. That evolved to what was

531
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: called enhanced nine one one, which was in the nineteen seventies,

532
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: again driven by telecom advancing with A T and T

533
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: with new technologies. They developed a N I and a

534
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: L I automatic number identification and location identification A and

535
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: I just caller I D. That's what everybody calls caller

536
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: I D. Yeah. Remember those cute little boxes that you

537
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: can plug your phone line into it on your little

538
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: table show you in some little terrible readout. Basically dot

539
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: matrix readout yep, who was calling? Pretty neat and then

540
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: it was on your handheld cordless phone. Right, you could

541
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: look at it, and that was like, whoa, we're living

542
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: in the future, rich or the answering machine now is digital.

543
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: We don't need those tiny tapes. Yeah, it's true. That

544
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: was like a big revolution too. That was huge, amazing

545
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: because you could leave as long a message as you

546
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: wanted now, but you couldn't get that clever nobody's home.

547
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's home. Sure, you're still recording your outgoing message, right,

548
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: you could sing it, but they actually had that tape

549
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: you could buy that you could put. Yeah, there was

550
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: one that was like a whole mixtape of them, just

551
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: like gag answers. Boy, you don't remember that, not really.

552
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: There was a very famous ad that ran. It was

553
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: like delight your friends basically yeah, wow, yeah, it's pretty funny. Um.

554
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: So this enhanced nine in one system, the automatic number

555
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: and the automatic locator. That was a big deal because

556
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, if you were a call

557
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: taker for and a call came up on your little

558
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: computer screen, it said what the number was and what

559
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: the address was, and because everybody was calling from land lines,

560
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: you knew exactly where that person was who needed help.

561
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: It's right, saved a bunch of time. It was a

562
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: very huge life saving measure. Yeah. I mean when you

563
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: think about people in an emergency, could be everything from

564
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: crippling fear keeping you from even knowing where you are too,

565
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: haven't been hit on the head and not being able

566
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: to say where you are yeah, or you just can't

567
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: speak yeah. And so that really imagined that they spend

568
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: a lot of time sometimes just trying to get through

569
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: that first step of where are you right? So this

570
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: was an enormous leap forward, and in the seventies and

571
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: eighties it really kind of cemented how helpful in life

572
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: saving this nine one one system could be. And then

573
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: cell phones came along and the rest of us kind

574
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: of leapfrogged right over nine one one because the cell

575
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: phone carriers didn't have an I and a L I

576
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: when when you call nine one one still to this

577
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: day from a cell phone, it does not come up

578
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: what your number is or where you are in any

579
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: specific way. And so Congress, or at least that c

580
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: C said, um, hey, we need you guys to do

581
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: something like there's got to be something that you just

582
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: can't be like, you know, you have no idea where

583
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: this person is in the country. Because part of the

584
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: other thing about the automatic locator uh that that they

585
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: had originally with nine one one in the seventies and

586
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: eighties is it would route you to the closest um

587
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: public safety answering point, right, So that would be saving

588
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: time too, because the person you're talking to is in

589
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: the same area as you and knows the area you're

590
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: talking about and can more quickly dispatch people cell phones.

591
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Is not the case. Yeah, And Dave makes a good point.

592
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: Even if they could have located like where your cell

593
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: phone plan was or your phone was activated, you don't

594
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: have to live in the city where that is, right.

595
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: You can friends to have l A numbers that work

596
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: in the film industry here just because that stupid l

597
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: A three one O or three to three makes them

598
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: look like a more legitimate higher just so cool. It's

599
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: so cool and so dumb. But yeah, it would be

600
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: like you're in Atlanta, says you're in Los Angeles. Is

601
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: this a prank? Are you swatting me? Yeah? So um,

602
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: the so the FCC said, Okay, you guys need to

603
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: do something. So what they did was they came up

604
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: with UM, a triangulation where the closest cell phone towers

605
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: address comes up when you call. It's a start, it

606
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: is a good start. But if you're out in the sticks,

607
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: the closest cell phone tower might be miles and miles

608
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: and miles away. And even if it's not miles away,

609
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: let's say it's a football field a way. Well, if

610
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: you're in a dense um densely populated area and you're

611
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: bleeding out, sure it doesn't help. It does not help

612
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: at all, but it gets you a little bit closer,

613
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: and it helps to to transfer your collar to rout

614
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: your call to the closest peace app Okay, And then

615
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: the other thing that they have them do now, Phase

616
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: two of this enhanced wireless, enhanced nine on one is UM.

617
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: It gives your GPS coordinates, which is so nineties it's

618
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: ridiculous and it's like map quest. When who's ever waited

619
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: on a ride share, uh that thought you were down

620
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: the street from where you were knows how accurate that

621
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: GPS can be. Well, still, it's still great, but that's

622
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: way more accurate than what nine one ones working with. Well,

623
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: they're just working with longitude and latitude points. Right. Yeah.

624
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: One of the big, one of the big qualities. A

625
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: quality to have as a nine one one operator is

626
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: to be able to quickly translate longitude and latitude coordinates

627
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: GPS coordinates into like Google Maps to get an address

628
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: really fast and it smooth, sexy voice like Berry White

629
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: with fingers of fury, or like halle Berry with fingers

630
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: she uh. Did you see that movie The Call? She

631
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: played a call uh specialist in a movie, a thriller.

632
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: It was good, It wasn't great. Yeah, it was good. Okay.

633
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: Brad Anderson directed it. He's like a really quality director. Yeah,

634
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: I know that name, and it seems like this sort

635
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: of from what you're gonna call me out on that.

636
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you from what? From where? Oh, I

637
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: don't get what you mean from what? Like what other

638
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: what other movies is he directed? He directed a scary

639
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: movie called Session nine. Oh yes, okay, well, then this

640
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: guy is one of my favorites of all time. That's what.

641
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: It's one of the best horror movies ever made. Yeah,

642
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Brad Anderson because he has a

643
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: range of genres. Like one of his early movies is

644
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: this kind of spacey rom com called Happy Accidents. That

645
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: was great. Happy Accident, Yeah, really good with Mercy Thoma

646
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: and Vincent dina Frio. But it had This was a

647
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: rom com with a sort of a bit of a

648
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: sci fi twist to it. And he did Trans Siberian.

649
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: He's he's done. He did Next Stop. Wonderland was one

650
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: of his first little indies. But yeah, he does. It's

651
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: unusual for a director to tackle all these weird are

652
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: different genres, it's disparate genres. Well, you have me at

653
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: Session nine. Yeah. The Call Is is a good, you know,

654
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: Puckcorn movie. I highly recommend it. Okay, I'll check it out.

655
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: Halle Berry is a call center person. No, no, that's

656
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: all I'll say. Hey, she's quality quality actress. She is.

657
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: But the fact that I had never even heard of

658
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: this movie really made me suspicious. It did pretty well.

659
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't a massive hit, but it did like sixty

660
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: million bucks. But that's really surprising. Like I'm very aware

661
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: of movies, like I'll know what the movie is about,

662
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: and I have never seen it, not a preview. I'll

663
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: just kind of no, So I'm I'm surprised. Okay, I

664
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: recommend it I'll check it out. Yeah, I mean it's

665
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: no black coat's daughter, but that's a good one too.

666
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: So where are we now? We are now at texting

667
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: to oh wait, hold on, I wanted to drive this

668
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: home real quick. Okay, okay, drive it home. The FCC

669
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: rule that says you have to have a cell phone tower,

670
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: tell one it's address, the closest one to your cell phone,

671
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: and then give the GPS coordinates for wherever that cell

672
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: phone they think the cell phone is. That's the nine

673
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: one one system that's in place nationwide today. That's why

674
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: they ask you from a cell phone, who are you

675
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: and where are you, just like they did in the

676
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: early days, right, And this is a problem because, like

677
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: you said earlier, of nine one one calls in the

678
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: United States are made from cell phones, and nine one

679
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: one does not know where you are unless you tell them. Yeah,

680
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: but it's also um balanced out by the fact that

681
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: you have they want to help, well, you have that

682
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: cell phone right there and immediately. So yeah, yeah that

683
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: remember the old days, You're like, let me find a

684
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: pay phone, let me go knock on someone's door and

685
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: be and ask about their oak tree, and hopefully I

686
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: won't get shot Um, so people are calling right away,

687
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: So I would think that kind of counterbalances the clumsiness,

688
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: yes of location. I think you're right, Chuck. We'll see,

689
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: well you really swooped in there, I say, we'll see

690
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: as if there's some report coming out. And the thing is, though,

691
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: is there there people have figured out the people, the

692
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: powers that be who are concerned with nine one one

693
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: in its system are well aware of this major flaw,

694
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: and our work have figured out how to how to

695
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: update it. It's just now we're in the process of

696
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: rolling out updates. Well, and then privacy advocates are going

697
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: to be like, what you're gonna like locate every single

698
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: person with the cell phone and know where they are

699
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: at all times. And Amazon and Apple are like, dude,

700
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: we already know that. It's just one is the only

701
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: one who doesn't know where you are at all top,

702
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: which is a problem. It's funny. I saw um a

703
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: Wired article from that was like wringing its hands, like, oh,

704
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, privacy advocates are worried that they may be

705
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: able to track the movement of cell phone users based

706
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: on this information that now yeah, they're like, maybe I

707
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll have to see the future holds. Yeah,

708
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: so texting the one is the latest technology about ten

709
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: years ago, eleven years ago in Iowa in black Hawk,

710
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: they were the first jurisdiction to offer this service and

711
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: it's still kind of coming out. I think. Um, a

712
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: couple of years ago they all fifty states had text capability,

713
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: but UM, it's not everywhere in each state. Yeah, exactly,

714
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: and it's just text. I love day points out you

715
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: can't send emojis. Um, I can need help emogi, but

716
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: you can't send text and video and that kind of

717
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: thing would be super helpful, I think. Right, So this

718
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: is where we are in the next generation. It's literally

719
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: called next generation, and it's where nine one one finally

720
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: catches up to every other UM telecom company and device

721
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: manufacturer already is. And it basically uses all the information

722
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: from the Internet of Things that lets people know exactly

723
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: where you are, not just like what your addresses, what

724
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: floor of a building you happen to be sitting on

725
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: right now. UM, all of that information is now going

726
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: to be funnel to nine one one when you call,

727
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: because ninmon one is finally abandoning land lines landline telecom.

728
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: That's what they they're dealing with Currently they're going over

729
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to v O I P so nine one will be

730
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: using a secure internet connection in the near future. And

731
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: when they get to that point, um, they will be

732
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: able to accept video photos like this is the guy

733
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: that's that's attacking the lady, hurry up, that kind of thing.

734
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: And then they'll also be able to because they're setting

735
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: up a separate wireless broadband network just for first responders

736
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: called first net. Yeah, that's going to be a big deal,

737
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: and so nine one one will be able to say, hey,

738
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: here's a photo of the guy that there that you're

739
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: looking for. Um, And they can't do that now is

740
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: mind boggling as it is. They cannot do that. Yeah,

741
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, just to have a dedicated wireless network cuts

742
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: down on I imagine interference and potential hacking. Plus in

743
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: a disaster, if you're out there in the field, you

744
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: are using your own wireless device that's on the public

745
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: broadband right now. And so if the public broadband goes

746
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: down because there's so many people trying to use it

747
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: to find out what's going on in like an earthquake

748
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: or something like, the first responders suffer from that too.

749
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: So this separate broadband network just for first responders won't

750
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: crash in the event of a disaster. Yeah, And speaking

751
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: of first responders, uh, I think it's kind of time

752
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: we join certain people and saying call center employees are

753
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: first responders, are people saying they're not well. I don't

754
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: think they're generally thought of as first responders if you

755
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: work at a call center, because they just sit around maybe,

756
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: but they are literally the first and most important first

757
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: thing that happens in an emergency. And like you said earlier,

758
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: they are trained to and walk people through epr Heimlich,

759
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: how to deliver a baby, how to handle an active shooter, uh, suicide,

760
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: domestic abuse, um, if you're a kid and you're scared

761
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: because grandma fell over, like how to handle children? Like

762
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: they're really skilled. And I think it's a shame that,

763
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: Like I feel like the only time you hear about

764
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: call center responders is when there's a bad one and

765
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: you release those calls and everyone's horrified, you know, and

766
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: it is, it's awful. But those are clearly like the standouts,

767
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: I guess not standouts. The standouts are all the good employees.

768
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: There have been some doozies, for sure. Yeah, I've read

769
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: about one where somebody called in um of wildfire in Oregon, Oregon,

770
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 1: sorry Oregon, and uh, the nine one one operator said,

771
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: what you're seeing is probably just the play of light

772
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: on sunlight on the fog. It was like, how would

773
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: you even know that you're in a all center. I'm

774
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: looking right at this thing. It's a wildfire, and like

775
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: they didn't dispatch anybody, and um, like a half hour

776
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: twenty minutes later, somebody else called it in and by

777
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: this time it was like raging. Um. There was the

778
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: one lady drowning in her car too. That one was horrific.

779
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: I didn't hear about that one. She was in her

780
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: car that was going down and I think I don't

781
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: remember exactly what happened, but she was freaking out, and

782
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: I think the person was just sort of dismissive and

783
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: it was really kind of rude even But you know,

784
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: that makes the news, not the six and fifty thousand

785
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: calls a day that go through and our lives are saved. Like, no, no, absolutely,

786
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: it's absolutely true. It's a great point. Um. There are

787
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: plenty of stories of people like of them just like

788
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: straight up doing hero stuff, going above and beyond. You

789
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: should see halle Berry in this movie. One of the

790
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: things that can happen is as hard as much as

791
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: your trained to not let it happen. UH, you can

792
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: become emotionally invested in a call totally. And I've read

793
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: that some some operators are just find it leaving it

794
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: at the door, at least appearing to leave it at

795
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: the door. But others can suffer UM burnout PTSD UM.

796
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: And one of the big things that I saw that's

797
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: a huge psychological problem for nine one operators is that

798
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: there can very frequently be no resolution. They can be

799
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: on the phone with somebody who is like holding someone hostage,

800
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: and they're trying to talk them down, and all of

801
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, the cops come in. The line goes dead.

802
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: They if they're not good friends with the cops who

803
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: came in, UM, they may never find out what happened,

804
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: like no idea. UM, they're talking someone through who's been

805
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: shot or whatever to try to keep them alive and conscious.

806
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: They have no idea what happened to that person. They

807
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: have to take the next call, and that's a huge problem.

808
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: There's no closure. And then sometimes there is closure, like

809
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: if you're a nine one one operator, you probably have

810
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: been on the phone with somebody when they took their

811
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: last breath, when they were murdered, when they died, very

812
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: very scared. That kind of stuff takes its toll on people,

813
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: and that's a big It could be a big problem,

814
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: and there could be pretty frequent turnover among dispatchers' halle

815
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Berry movie, Oh yeah, I'm it's all there. Uh yeah,

816
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: because even if they don't get closure on the work site,

817
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: they could see it on the news that night be like, man,

818
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: that I took that call of this murder or whatever.

819
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Pretty bad. Sure, not a job for me. I don't

820
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: think I could hack it either. And then practically speaking,

821
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: there's like you have to be able to type really

822
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: really fast with a high level of accuracy while somebody's

823
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: telling you other information, like you might be taking info

824
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: in and you have to be chatting with you know,

825
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: a cop on I am who you're sending out while

826
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: you're also taking the description from the other person who's

827
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: going back and forth. Yeah, you gotta be able to

828
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: compartmentalize and multitask all. None of those things are my

829
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: special team though. If you're wondering, you pay for one.

830
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: If you have a phone bill cell phone bills included.

831
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: It's a little little surcharge there. So Uh, that's outrageous

832
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: to scream socialism everybody. Uh. And as far as those

833
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: statistics we talked about earlier about the racial bias, Um,

834
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: of course, if you were a fan of Public Enemy,

835
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: you remember the Great Great Song is a joke. Flavor flavor. Uh.

836
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: There was a study done by the a c l

837
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: U in two thousand thirteen, residents of Grand Crossing this

838
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: is Chicago study, Uh, African American neighborhood on the South

839
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Side waited eleven minutes for a cop to come after

840
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: a priority call. Um two and a half minutes for

841
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: the predominantly white neighborhood of Jefferson Park. Um in response

842
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: times in that were four and a half time slower

843
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: in the black community. And there's you know, like I

844
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier with the people calling on one on you know,

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Speaker 1: just an African American person living their life. There have

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Speaker 1: been cases where people ended up dead because of that

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Speaker 1: after escalation, and that's just like a pure tragedy for sure. Um.

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Speaker 1: There is there like when you have something this massive

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Speaker 1: and huge and it's involves people at like their worst

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Speaker 1: moment of their life. A lot of stuff is going

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00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: to kind of come out of it. There's a lot

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00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: to nine one one, a lot of legends and myths

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Speaker 1: and everything. But one of the things I saw that

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Speaker 1: everyone seems to know about is that if you call

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Speaker 1: nine one one and pretend you're ordering a pizza, they

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Speaker 1: will understand that you were in a position where you

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Speaker 1: can't talk, and they'll dispatch the police. Supposedly that's a myth,

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Speaker 1: but it makes total sense. Doesn't you've heard that before?

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Speaker 1: I was just just thinking of die Hard. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't remember that. There was that line where he's calling

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Speaker 1: the nine one one dispatcher. Well, I guess I don't

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Speaker 1: even think it was. I think it was an actual

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Speaker 1: cop on the other end, and she's like, calm down, sir,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's not an emergency whatever, And he said,

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Speaker 1: what do you think I'm doing ordering a pizza? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that might have been a reference to that maybe,

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Speaker 1: So so what are you saying again? The urban legend

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Speaker 1: is that if you like, let's say there's there's somebody

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Speaker 1: who's got a gun on you, if you can somehow

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Speaker 1: get it to the point where you're like, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: order a pizza, right, now you call nine on one

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Speaker 1: say hey, I'd like to order a pizzas my address

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00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and then nine one one will get

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Speaker 1: what's going on and send the cops out. Apparently that's

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00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: not true, okay, but there there is. There's another. There

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Speaker 1: was an urban legend I saw in the UK with

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Speaker 1: that if you um call and you don't say anything,

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Speaker 1: that they will send someone out, and I think that

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Speaker 1: is kind of widely believed over here in the US too.

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Speaker 1: Apparently in the UK that is true, but it's going

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Speaker 1: to send you through a series of prompts if you

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Speaker 1: don't respond um, and if you press five five it

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Speaker 1: will you will be confirming that yes, you there's an

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Speaker 1: emergency and you just can't talk right now, and they

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Speaker 1: will send people out. If you don't press five five,

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Speaker 1: then they won't. It'll just take it as like an

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Speaker 1: accidental call. Well, and that's the big benefit. I don't

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Speaker 1: even think we kind of brought up about texting to

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Speaker 1: nine one because you might think, like because because people

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Speaker 1: want to text, But there are plenty of cases where

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Speaker 1: you can't talk. You're maybe in a domestic dispute, or

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Speaker 1: if you're hearing you're hiding in a closet, or if

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Speaker 1: you're hearing impaired, or if you've been kidnapped and don't

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Speaker 1: want to use your voice out loud, or you're scared

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00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: child like, plenty of great cases to be made for texting.

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Speaker 1: And since text to nine one one isn't everywhere, the

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Speaker 1: FEC has a law that if you're telecom carrier doesn't

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Speaker 1: UM doesn't have text nine one one, they have an

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Speaker 1: immediate bounce back that says like, you can't do that,

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Speaker 1: you have to call nine one. Yeah, which is that's

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Speaker 1: pretty valuable. It is. And one last thing, if you

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Speaker 1: find an old phone that has a charge in it,

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Speaker 1: even if it hasn't been had service for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: you can dial nine one you will be connected. That

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Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Every single phone that is that is

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Speaker 1: in operation dials nine and one for free. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: like that. I do too, man, I love nine one one.

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Speaker 1: I think Kurvanni gets said there's no uh, no greater

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Speaker 1: display of humanity than seeing a fire truck go down

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Speaker 1: the street with its sirens blazing. Really it sounds like

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Speaker 1: something it's interesting. Uh. Well, if you want to know

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Speaker 1: more about curvanning get you can just type that into

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Speaker 1: the search bar how stuff works and who knows what

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Speaker 1: that will bring up. Uh. And since I said that,

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Speaker 1: it's time for a listener. Man, this is a response.

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Speaker 1: When we asked for examples of racism in today's military,

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Speaker 1: and we heard from a range of people. I have

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Speaker 1: to say, from this guy who the other guy to

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Speaker 1: the other guy. This guy said, I'll just tell you

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Speaker 1: what this guy said a minute. But other people have

921
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Speaker 1: said that, yeah, they've seen some pretty bad racist stuff

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Speaker 1: in the military, but they're isolated incidences, just like in

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Speaker 1: the real world. But this is what Matthew apple White says. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Start off, I'm a white guy. I can't speak on

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Speaker 1: everyone's experience while in the service, but during my four

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Speaker 1: years I saw more camaraderie between a mix of races

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Speaker 1: than I ever see in my real life. It seems

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Speaker 1: like this is the response that we got the most

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Speaker 1: the most. I think you're right. They thought us. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they taught us from the start in boot camp Marine

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Speaker 1: Corps that you're all nothing and you will all become Marines.

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Speaker 1: And with that in common, it gives the common ground

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Speaker 1: between any race or nationality. Uh. They might often refer

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Speaker 1: to African American Marines as dark green implying, yes, they

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Speaker 1: may have a different skin tone, but they're still green.

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Speaker 1: And over the years, in and out of training, you

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Speaker 1: learned that everyone endures the suck and the hard times together. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and no one is above another. In the end, you

939
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Speaker 1: learn to trust the man to my left and right

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Speaker 1: with my life, no matter what his skin color. And

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Speaker 1: ladies too, there are female marines. Uh. I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: said that. Yeah. Now saying all this, some some prejudice

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Speaker 1: from other people's upbringing do still remain, but most of

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Speaker 1: the time it is shot down very fast with harsh repercussions,

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Speaker 1: and it has kept to a minimum. I made many

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Speaker 1: friends from all walks of life that I would have

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Speaker 1: never even imagined being so close to. Without the common

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Speaker 1: ground we stood on are the hard times that we

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Speaker 1: endured together. And that is from an avid listener named

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Speaker 1: Matthew apple White. Thanks a lot, Matthew. Um, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you letting us know. Thanks to everybody who wrote in

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Speaker 1: to let us know. Virtually the same thing. Yeah, except

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Speaker 1: for the couple of standouts. Yeah. Um. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: want to get in touch with us, like Matthew did,

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Speaker 1: you can go on to stuff you should know dot com.

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Speaker 1: And I think our social links are there. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: but you can always get in touch with us via

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Speaker 1: email at stuff podcast at i heart radio dot com.

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