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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one and

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Speaker 1: tay in the show, I'm joined by my good buddy,

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Speaker 1: Josh further Hilliard. I knew I was gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is that today on the show,

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by my good buddy, Josh further Hilliard, and

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Speaker 1: he's sitting right next to me, which is why I'm

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Speaker 1: having a hard time saying this. But we're discussing his

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Speaker 1: successful Ohio Rut hunt, the Quality Dear Management Association, the

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Speaker 1: latest of my hunt for holy Field, and our Northern

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Speaker 1: Michigan deer camp. All right, welcome to the Wired to

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Speaker 1: Hunt Podcast, brought to you by Sitco Gear. And this

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Speaker 1: is a little bit of a different episode. Uh. Dan

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Speaker 1: Johnson is not with us, but I have another bearded

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Speaker 1: uh fill in. She's gonna handle Dan's role today. I

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Speaker 1: think my beer might give him a run for his

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Speaker 1: money right now. Right now. Yeah, it's going pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty good. Um with me today playing the

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Speaker 1: role of Dan Johnson, is Josh further Hilliard. And we

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Speaker 1: had to give him a chance here because in last

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Speaker 1: week's episodes, you guys heard me and Dan were talking

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Speaker 1: while Josh was sitting on the sidelines in the hotel

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Speaker 1: listening to us talk smack about him. So we had

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Speaker 1: to give you an opportunity now to actually be on

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Speaker 1: the podcast and to actually, you know, speak your own

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Speaker 1: mind now. So I appreciate that. Yeah, so we got

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Speaker 1: Josh here. Um. Have we told the story of why

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Speaker 1: I call you Further on the podcast? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have told it. Maybe once a

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Speaker 1: long time ago. You know what we did because you

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Speaker 1: are on the podcast a couple of years ago and

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Speaker 1: Dan asked if you had any like funny nicknames growing

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Speaker 1: up because I told you know, I told Dan that

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Speaker 1: you grew up together. He asked if he had any nicknames,

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Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, we call him Further. Um. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. This has really gotten some momentum across the

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Speaker 1: hunting community. Now everybody does refer to you as Further,

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Speaker 1: which I'm so happy about it. I'm gonna be on

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Speaker 1: like a one name basis in the hunting community, right.

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Speaker 1: You really the equivalent of like Kobe, well, I think

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Speaker 1: I told you to say that a guy facebook frond

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Speaker 1: me and uh, I got a message from his like,

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Speaker 1: so how did you get the nickname Further? Just like

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Speaker 1: out of the first thing. Well, for those that are

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Speaker 1: new who aren't familiar with who Further is, the short

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Speaker 1: version of the story is that in high school, Um,

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Speaker 1: we got the idea that we should call Josh Further

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Speaker 1: because his dad's name is Frank and we were like,

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Speaker 1: his dad was just a funny guy and we would

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Speaker 1: see him a lot when we were hanging out, and um,

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Speaker 1: well Josh was like a mini Frank, so he's a

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Speaker 1: Frank Further. So for sure we's called Further, but we

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Speaker 1: decided not to tell Josh why we were calling him Further.

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Speaker 1: So me and all my buddies for I don't know

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Speaker 1: how long it was, maybe a year, it was longer,

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Speaker 1: it's like, not until it was finally, So for all

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Speaker 1: that time we called him Further and Joshua get pissed.

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Speaker 1: He was like, why do you call me that? What

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Speaker 1: does that mean? I had no idea. Yeah, So so

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Speaker 1: that's where Further comes from. Um, so it's kind of

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Speaker 1: don't know right. That's what makes it so good in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, because you're right. It is not a clever,

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Speaker 1: funny reason for the nickname. And that's why it's so good,

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Speaker 1: because it's so stupid. So Josh and me are right

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Speaker 1: now sitting in a it's about maybe twenty yards long

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Speaker 1: my family deer camp in northern Chickin and right now

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Speaker 1: be a good opportunity to record a podcast. Um. And

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Speaker 1: we've got a cold beer in her hands. We just

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Speaker 1: ate some venison stew after the evening hunt got the

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Speaker 1: want to hear a little bit more about what Further

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Speaker 1: and he's doing some pretty cool things. I want to

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Speaker 1: And then also, so last week on the podcast, when

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Speaker 1: to talk about holy Field and my final week of

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Speaker 1: hunting him. Since we talked last time. UM, apologies Dan

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Speaker 1: but we have to talk about it. So Josh, you're

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Speaker 1: I'll say, well, this is Michigan, Dan, this isn't an Iowa. UM.

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Speaker 1: ones that be nice next year, right next maybe hopefully. UM.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the game plan. UM. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: real quick what you're doing these days? Because you used

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Speaker 1: We've done a lot of hunting together. We went eltcutting

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Speaker 1: But this year you actually got a little more involved

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Speaker 1: but it's it was so cool to see, like because

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Speaker 1: to see it all come together, to see to see you,

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Speaker 1: He says, I would recommend X y Z Company to

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Speaker 1: cute Man quizy here can you can I guess before? So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do as a regional director Quality Dear Management Association.

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Speaker 1: like your one minute spiel of here's at a high

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Speaker 1: kind of like the elevator, you know, the elevator speech.

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Speaker 1: So our goal is to ensure UM are hunting heritage UM,

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Speaker 1: conserving the white tail deer UM through a scientific approach,

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Speaker 1: UM through hunting based activities. UM. You know. The main

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Speaker 1: So we're conserving the white tailed deer in our hunting

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Speaker 1: heritage is our is our main goal? Cool? All right,

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Speaker 1: so you guys are doing that. There's a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: a sick moment on Chad's hunt. He was wearing Sita's

430
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: fanatic system. If you'd like to create a sick of

431
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: story of your own, or to learn more about Sitka's

432
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: technical hunting apparel, visit sick of Year dot com. So

433
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: let's go back to Ohio. You got down to Ohio

434
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: a day or two before I did because I was

435
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: still chasing the Holy Field and I kept pushing my

436
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: Ohio trip back because I want to try to kill him. Um,

437
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: so you got down here like as a day or

438
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: two beforehand. Talk to me. Let's walk through Ohio. Hunt

439
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: you out there? First day was pretty boring, right, Yeah,

440
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: I gotta think about this for a second. First day

441
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: where I set my first dad, you set the grassy

442
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: field stand, right, I don't think I saw a thing.

443
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't say a thing that night, but I got

444
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: down there just for the afternoon hunt. Um, and this

445
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: this stand has been all right, It's never been great.

446
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever I don't think either one

447
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: of us has killed anything out of that stand. But

448
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: the weekend before, let's let's mention this, because I think

449
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: I talked about a little bit with Dan. But the

450
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: weekend before I hunted that stand, I went down for

451
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: two days and a really nice buck came by and

452
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: I passed on him. Um, because it was still early,

453
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: and I had decided this year. You know, I talked

454
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 1: kind of jokingly. I had said, booner or bust this

455
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: year in Ohio because our friend Coco said that he

456
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: wanted to challenge me to shoot a boon or by

457
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: the time I was thirty, because that's when he shot

458
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: his booner. Um, it's obviously not gonna happen because I'm

459
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: probably not gonna shoot anything this year. But I thought,

460
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'll try to be a little bit more

461
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: piggy this year. UM. So I passed that buck. Then

462
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: you hunt it again. Didn't see anything there. But let's

463
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: back up again, because when you sent a picture to

464
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: the group, text like, oh I just passed this one. Yeah,

465
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: I said, if I see that buck, he's not getting

466
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: pass Maybe a little foreshadowing there, yes, And I said,

467
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: absolutely right, you should shoot that buck him, um, because

468
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot the booner because yeah, I'm

469
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: not on the booner or bus train. Okay, So day

470
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: one boring Day two? You said, did two? I came right, yep,

471
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: did two? You got there? Well, you got there late

472
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: that night. Late was that Tuesday night you got in?

473
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, but okay, Yeah, basically, let's let's fast

474
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: forward to your next exciting hunt. So that would have

475
00:24:52,440 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: been Wednesday afternoon. The morning it was slow, um. And

476
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: then I don't even think I saw anything that morning.

477
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: Maybe like one or two does filtered through. Um. The

478
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: afternoon came and it was getting close to dark, and

479
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: I turned behind me and looked up on the ridge

480
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: and there's a nice buck coming right down towards me.

481
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: And you were hunting the stand that I killed len

482
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: from up three two or three years ago. Now, that

483
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: really nice buck that we were chasing for a few years.

484
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: That was the second or third year we're hunting him. Um,

485
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: so that stand has a little history too. So you

486
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: you're sitting there and you see a nice buck come downhill,

487
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: see it coming down the hill. It's coming right to me.

488
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: So I'm scrambling. I grabbed my bow, try to get

489
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: my camera turned back around there and turned background. He's

490
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: still coming. He's still coming, And you spouted pretty far away, right, Yeah,

491
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: he's pretty far away. He's a couple hundred yards away.

492
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: But I had like a like a perfect lane that

493
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: I can see all the way to the back corner

494
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: of our property. Um, and it's just it's almost like

495
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: a perfect like haircut right through there where I can

496
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: see up to the top of this ridge. And he's

497
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: just coming on a string right to me. I don't

498
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: know what's worse when you see a buck and he's

499
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: like right there on top of you, like you just

500
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: turn there's a bucket twenty yards or like. And when

501
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: I say worse, I mean, like how you get over

502
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: excited right when he's just right there and then all

503
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: of a sudden, bam, you gotta go or don't have

504
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: any time to think about it? Yeah, or you see

505
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: him four hundred yards away, excuse me, you watch him

506
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: come for ten minutes and you're like, oh my gosh,

507
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 1: she's actually coming, has actually happened like that can be?

508
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: Did you get pretty ampt? Yeah? I got pretty ampt

509
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: because it is like the first good buck I've seen

510
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: all year, because you've been I've been a bunch of

511
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: public land in Michigan that's pretty heavily pressured, and I've

512
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: seen a handful of year and a half olds, but

513
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything that's really been like, oh, man, here,

514
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: so described this buck coming your way as he or

515
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: what you see at least as he's coming. Yeah. So

516
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: I see him, and I, you know, I media identified

517
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: that he was a shooter and a big body, and

518
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: he starts getting a little closer. Maco, Man, that looks

519
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: a lot like the buck that Mark passed, and I

520
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: put my bindos up on him one more time ago

521
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: that is guy saw the big curve like bladed, kind

522
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: of tall brow ton on what his left side? Uh yeah, yeah,

523
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: it's left side deer left yep, yep. And so he's

524
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: coming to me, and he's coming, drops down in this

525
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 1: little creek and he comes right back up and all

526
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's like on me like that. I

527
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: mean it's felt like forever. But then he was Boomi's

528
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: right there, and he gets to this point and he's

529
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: behind some thick stuff, a couple of trees and some

530
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: branches and a couple of bushes, and he's like twenty

531
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: yards and but he's right on the He's right on

532
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: the property line and where you clipped on. Yeah, yeah,

533
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: I was ready to go at the camera aimed where

534
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: I wanted him to go to, um, because I had

535
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: cell phone filming myself, and um, he just needed to

536
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: take a right or keep going straight, and I had

537
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: a shot at him, but he jumps the fence into

538
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: the neighbors and I on and atom and he just

539
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: didn't want anything to do with it. You just dropped

540
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: into the drainage. Again. I never saw him come out

541
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: of there, so I was I was bummed. I the

542
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: one spot he couldn't go. He want It just seems

543
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: pretty typical how that usually goes, as you know, really

544
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: excited and then I go, all right, that that sucks.

545
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: That's it wasn't It wasn't. And that was pretty much

546
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: that we had maybe a little bit of daylight left side.

547
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: I hope that he'd come back out, but um, didn't

548
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: happen that night, and I don't think I saw anything.

549
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: I saw a few does that night and not any bucks. Um.

550
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: So that was that night. We went back to our hotel.

551
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about our hotel real quickly. UM. We we

552
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: usually stay so we are cheap, and we are like

553
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: dirt bags. And so when we started hunting down in Ohio,

554
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't I've been hunting in Ohio for I don't know,

555
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: seven years now or something like that. Um, because I

556
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: started hunting down there a year or two before you did. Um,

557
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: me and Coco did. Um. So when we started going

558
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: to this area, the first thing we do is find

559
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: the very cheapest hotel we can possibly find. And it

560
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: happens to be on the outskirts of a somewhat large

561
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: city and unfortunately, is the closest hotel we can get

562
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: to where we hunt. It's like a forty minute drive. Yeah,

563
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: it's like thirty six to forty minutes, um, depending on

564
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: who's driving. UM, I'll say that I'd take I get

565
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: there in thirty six. Um, you know you're there. I

566
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: used to much more. I used to be the Gramma driver. UM.

567
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: I've come a long way. I'd like to think. Uh,

568
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: but so we we found the very cheapest hotel and

569
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: at the time we were like twenty four when we

570
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: started hunting there or something. Um, And I mean it's

571
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 1: it's pretty rough. It's the kind of spot that before

572
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: I ever opened up the door, I always peek out

573
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: the window and like look and just see is there

574
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: anyone out here? Could I get jumped? Um? Like there's

575
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: weird things going on a lot of the time, like

576
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: last year or two years ago. So like in the

577
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: middle of the night, I don't even remember what he

578
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: was saying, but there's a guy like standing outside of

579
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: the room just screaming. Well that happened, crazy thing when

580
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: you were and you were down there by yourself that night, right,

581
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: And I got there the next night. The first night

582
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: was by myself, and there's someone outside my door like

583
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: like like Tourette's but maybe on drugs or drunk or

584
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: something going on ladder yeah, um, and just yelling like

585
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: cuss words and like screaming. And I woke up and

586
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: like this guy come into my room. Um he didn't,

587
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: but then he did the next night when you were there,

588
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: I think, Um, so like that kind of stuff happened

589
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: or even this year we went there. I went there,

590
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: I guess this was by myself, and I went up

591
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: to the front desk and I had to wait like

592
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes before the receptionist came to the desk. Um,

593
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: and like there was a group of like six people

594
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: all waiting like there's no one here. I was calling,

595
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: no one's showing up. The guy comes in, he was like,

596
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there was a nine one one call back

597
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: on the back block. So you know, it's just like

598
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: stuff so always has pretty sketch, it's a little sketchy. Um. Now,

599
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: our buddy Coco code named Coco Um went there last

600
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: year that he had his incident that made his wife.

601
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: So last year he went and he got into his

602
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: room and he found bed bugs in his room and um,

603
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: and then he had to request another room. And then

604
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: the next room he went to have bed bugs too,

605
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: or something something like that. And then so they went

606
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: to a different hotel. So then this year we're all

607
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: going down there for vacation and Coco's wife said, hey,

608
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: you're not going to the dunghole motel. You gotta go

609
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: somewhere better. Now, I don't want you to bring bed bugs. Hum.

610
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: So Corey finds it. We really went up a lot

611
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: of notes there. So so Coco goes to this other

612
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: hotel and m he gets in there, he gets the

613
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: room and so but now he's paranoid about bed bugs.

614
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: So he checks the room, checks out aneth the bed

615
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: and doesn't. He find bad bugs in that the first room.

616
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: So he finds bad bugs in the first one there.

617
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: So he goes back to the front desk and they

618
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: give him a new room. He goes into that room

619
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: and it smells like cigarette smoke and there's like ashes

620
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: on the ground and stuff, and like you have to

621
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: sign like a two waiver like that you will not

622
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: smoke in these rooms and if you don't or if

623
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: you do smoke in then you get paid bucks. So

624
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: now he well, someone smoked in here, so let's go

625
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: back to the desk. Tells the guy, Hey, someone's been

626
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: smoking here. I need a different room. They put him

627
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: in another room. He goes in there, checks the bed.

628
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: There's not bed bugs, but there's I guess, like the

629
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: sign of past bed bugs, like dark spots all over something.

630
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: Somehow he ended up on four different rooms. Yeah, so

631
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: we he finally did get a different room that was

632
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: bed bug free, smoke free, signs of bed bug free. UM.

633
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: And so now we're at the new place and m

634
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: the next day. Now I got there and we're like,

635
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: you know what we are, we are thirty years old,

636
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Like we have real adult jobs. Now, maybe we don't

637
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: need to be at the Dandia's worst hotel. And it's

638
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: not like we moved that far. This this hotel is

639
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: like five dollars more night or like ten dollars a night.

640
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: And I was not like a big upgrade here, right,

641
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: it was a little bit nicer. We were ringing our

642
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: hands about the money. We're like, oh, man, I don't know,

643
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: should we really spend this much more? But you know,

644
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm happy we did it. I think it's a little better.

645
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm really happy we did. I think I changed my

646
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: luck down there. Yeah yeah, okay, So back to that,

647
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: enough about the hotel. UM. So you had that really

648
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: close call. We go back to the hotel room. It

649
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: was pizza night. We had our Marcos pizza and we

650
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: watched Bucks on DVD. UM and I record a podcast.

651
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I listened to you listened to us record of the

652
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: podcast and talk about you and Uh. Next day I

653
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: headed to UM this stand at the very back of

654
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: the property up on this ridge. How many times have

655
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: we hunted that one time? I've only I've hunted it

656
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: one other time, and you've never I've never hunted it.

657
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: So it's only been hunted twice ever in the history

658
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: of us hunting this property. And this is like our

659
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: fifth year hunt. I don't think I could find it

660
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: in the dark. No, you do not have that sense

661
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: of navigation. One time Josh got lost on a tech

662
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: acre property and he thought he would be we had

663
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: to go here. He thought he'd be smart by putting

664
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: up that orange surveyor's tape as he went along to

665
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: like map his route. Yeah, it's gonna just mark it

666
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: for the way in in the morning on my way out,

667
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be perfect of the morning the flags in. Well,

668
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: he got lost and he was only you know, like

669
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: it's a tech acre property and then his his his

670
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: family in laws, his in laws cabin, little cottage is there,

671
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: and um, so he got lost. He finally finds his

672
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: way out of there after how did you find your

673
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: way as you like walk up to the wrong house.

674
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Eventually I like ended up at something like little cabin

675
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: like on the other way I don't know what I

676
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: was doing. This is this is a this is a

677
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: while ago, like six months ago. So then the next

678
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: day he takes his wife out of your girl, and

679
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: then she sees, why is there this big circle of

680
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: So I don't think I'll ever live that one down

681
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: from right, she she still gives me a crap about that. So, so, yeah,

682
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: you're right, you could not make it to the backstand. Okay,

683
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: So I'm on the back ridge and you were on

684
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: the main ridge stand, right, my favorite stand. Yeah, because

685
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: what four years ago you killed a really nice buck.

686
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: There is to the day. I mean that morning I

687
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: sent you like a you know, I get those Facebook

688
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. Then and it was the buck I shot

689
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: four years ago from that stand on the same day

690
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: that I sent that to them. Repeat right, because November

691
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: is that right? Ninth nine? Okay, Um, so let me

692
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: let me tell about my starting the morning because I'm

693
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: sitting this backstand and I've been watching some doughs filter

694
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: through down the bottom. I'm kind of up on a

695
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: high ridge and then there's a pasture, high pasture behind me,

696
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: and then there's a low valley where there's another sort

697
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: of pasture there, and um, I've been seeing a good

698
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: number of doughs moving through. Um, we don't see many

699
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: deer on this property. I've talked about this in the past.

700
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a property. It's kind of frustrating to

701
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: hunt a lot of times because you'll you'll hunt for

702
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: days and days and you won't see more than like

703
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: a dough a day or two deer a day or something.

704
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: But if you are willing to put it in enough time,

705
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: and if you are in the right spot and get

706
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: a little bit lucky, you know, the one deer you

707
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: do see could be a really nice mature buck. So

708
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm sitting the back ridge and um, I've been seeing

709
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: this deer and then I hear little crashed to my left,

710
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: and I turned my head and I see a big

711
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: buck coming like he's like fifteen yards away. Like, oh

712
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm seeded. I'm not prepared. And I've immediately

713
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: flashed to what happened to me with Holy Field, like

714
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: two days beforehand, where Holy Feel surprised me. And then

715
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: he's booted. So I'm like, oh my god, this is

716
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: not happening to me again. I wasn't even messing around

717
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: my phone. I think I was just looking the other direction.

718
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: But he had come over a little rise and he

719
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: dropped over the rise. And then once he gets over

720
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: that rise withinside of me, he's like thirty yards away wherever.

721
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: And he was like coming on a trot right at me.

722
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: And I'm stuck seated in this tree. And what I

723
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: realized is that this tree we we we didn't have

724
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: a whole lot of great tree options on there, but

725
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: this tree did not have very much cover. So we

726
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: were high in the tree. It's it's a pretty high

727
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: tree stand um, but there's not much for cover. Um.

728
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh god, he's gonna spot me

729
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: up here. I'm gonna get busted um and a big

730
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: shooter is going to get away. Um. But so I

731
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: just stayed froze. Usually in this tree, I would have

732
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: thought to try to stand up. If I saw a

733
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: big buck coming, I try to stand up. So I

734
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: just seemed to blend in a little more and be

735
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: tight to that tree. Um. But I knew I I

736
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: couldn't move at all. But then I look at this

737
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: deer a little more. I'm like, oh, I know that, dear,

738
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: that's the deer that passed last week. Uh, really nice puck.

739
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: He's coming. But now I'm a little bit less nerve,

740
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm not as stressed because I didn't shoot him

741
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: last weekend. I'm not gonna shoot this weekend. But he

742
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: comes in and he walks right to like ten yards

743
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 1: and then he kind of looks around like he's gonna

744
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: spot me any second. He's gonna spot me any second.

745
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna spot mammy second. But he didn't. And he

746
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: walked by, and I'm looking at him like, oh, man,

747
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: like he looks a lot, he looks nice, and he's

748
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: right here. I could shoot him. And I came like,

749
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: I was like, grab my boat, don't grab my boat,

750
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: grab my boat, don't grab my bow. Grab my boat,

751
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: don't grab my bow. And he's I mean, he's wide,

752
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: he's got nice tie in length, he's got that mega

753
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: browts on on the one side, good solid body, um

754
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and just beautiful. And I got really cool footage of him.

755
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: Awesome encounter. But I was like, no, I mean, you

756
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: passed him once, you know, just stick with your gut. Um.

757
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: You made the right decision. I made the right decision

758
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: because he bounced off and he went down the hill

759
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, that was a cool encounter.

760
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: Um and uh so so that happened. He disappeared, He

761
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: went down that valley, and um, he went out the

762
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: other side because there was some noises on that other side. Um.

763
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: Now those dos I've been watching had been down that

764
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: valley and then they went to the creek, and they

765
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: followed the creek across the way, and then they went

766
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: up to the opposite ridge from me, which is the

767
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: ridge of Josh for sitting on. And these does went

768
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: out that ridge and I'd watched them go up that

769
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: ridge and go past Josh, so I knew what those

770
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: doughs had done. So now that buck goes that direction

771
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: down towards that valley, I'm like, if he goes down,

772
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: if he makes it to that creek, I wonder if

773
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: he'll hit that trail of all his doughs, I wonderful

774
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: go up that way. So I'm watching for him. But

775
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: he had disappeared. Now fast forward like five minutes, ten minutes,

776
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I spot that buck again. Um,

777
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: but now he's at the creek, and then a few

778
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: seconds there he's on the ridge and I'm like, holy crap,

779
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna go right up towards Josh, and like before

780
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: when I'm like seeing this in my binoculars and I'm like, okay,

781
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna go up the ridge. Now he's on the ridge,

782
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh man, he's like right there by Josh.

783
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: And I'm watching all this unfolding, and in my head,

784
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like it's like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh,

785
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like this is actually happening. Tell me

786
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: what happens from there from your perspective. So those those

787
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: does that you saw come up the ridge, I saw him.

788
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: They So this this ridge is it's basically a ridge

789
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: that runs out into it like a finger into the

790
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: corn field. Corn is still standing down here, and this

791
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: this ridge has like a grassy top and it's like

792
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: a shape of a funnel. So there's like a big

793
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: scrape down at one end that we've got a camera on,

794
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: and then it kind of just funnels down to the

795
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: edge of this the end of this finger. And so

796
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: those doughs and I think there's a spike. I think

797
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: there's a little spike horn with them. Um. They kind

798
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: of cut across the top of that ridge down into

799
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: this ditch and up into the corner at the far

800
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: end um of that funnel. Um. It's like, that's cool,

801
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: you know. And I had a couple of dolls that

802
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: had come down all the way past me that I

803
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: could have had a shot out of. Um. So I

804
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: had a couple of dos that had worked through the

805
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: couple of different dough groups. So that buck can I

806
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: see him come up, get to the top of the

807
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: ridge and he's he's right there. He's on that same

808
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: trail that those doughs were on. And he came a

809
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: little bit farther down that ridge, but quite close enough

810
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: for me to get a shot, and he dropped down

811
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: into that ditch. I was like, son of a he's

812
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: doing the same thing that he did the night before.

813
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: He's not gonna give me a shot. So I grunted

814
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: at him again, and this time I saw him stop.

815
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: He kind of turned his head and he looked back

816
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: at the corn and I grunted again. He did the

817
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: old circle and comes right back around. I go, oh,

818
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: here we go. And he came back up out of

819
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: this ditch and he was right on the edge of

820
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: about thirty yards and he just needed to take a

821
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: couple of steps and he got there and then he stopped.

822
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: He like on the footage, you can see like he

823
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: knew something. I wonder what, because your wind wasn't blowing there, No,

824
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: it could have been your wind, but well we had

825
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: the way the sun was my shadow and the tree

826
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: shadows were going right to him. So I don't know

827
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: if he caught my shadow when I when I drew

828
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: my bow back. Um, I'm not sure what it was,

829
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: but there was something. I mean, you can you can

830
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: see in the can all normal and then's like he

831
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: hit a wak. He hit something and just like boom,

832
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: and he just like held one leg up and then

833
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: put it down, kind of looking He never looked up

834
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: at me, but he kind of looked over. And I

835
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: wanted him to take another step or two to have

836
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: more because he was a little quartering to me just

837
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: the hair. Um. I would have liked to take another

838
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: step or two. I could have a perfect broadside shot.

839
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: But I didn't think he was gonna I wasn't gonna

840
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: take that chance. I thought he was gonna bolt. So

841
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I had it settled in right behind his shoulder and

842
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: touched off. He's right at thirty yards and you know

843
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: it hit hit good, sounded good. But man, I didn't

844
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: think I got much penetration. And he turned around and

845
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: um I could see blood coming out the other side, though,

846
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: says like, all right, it was a good hit, and

847
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: um he he died within fifty yards where I shot him.

848
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean he never made it off the top of

849
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: that ridge. I mean it was quick within seconds. And

850
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: what's cool is that when I watched the entire thing

851
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: happened to my been acutor, like even oh, I was like,

852
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: you know, hundreds of yards away, because all the leaves

853
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: are down off the trees, I could watch the strege.

854
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: So I just had my bianos up and I saw

855
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: him on the ridge and like, oh my gosh, he's

856
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna be with a range of josh and he second

857
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: and then he disappeared. And that must have been when

858
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: he dropped into that dish. And then I'm like, where

859
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: is he? Where is he? Where is it? So badly

860
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: wanted to see you get a shot at him. Something

861
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: like panic came like how did I miss him? How

862
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: did I lose him? And I'm looking, looking, looking, and

863
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this one little spot where I thought

864
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I was seeing him, and he just had blended in

865
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: with a tree. Maybe he's somewhere different now. So that

866
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: I made started making like long pans and my binoculus

867
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: farther down and then made a longer pan to the left,

868
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I was like, oh wow,

869
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: there he is, and he's like right next to your

870
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: stand then, and that I got to see the shot,

871
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: like I actually saw. I saw him get hit and

872
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: run and go down. I mean that was so cool.

873
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: A really quick yeah, really fast. So the time where

874
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: I first saw him and time he presented a shot

875
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: to the time he died. Quick, walk me through your

876
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: mental state. Man, it's been the last time I killed

877
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: a buck. It was four years ago in that same stance.

878
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it had been a while and a huntred,

879
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, pretty hard the last several years trying to

880
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, I had a couple of opportunities that slipped

881
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: through my fingers. Um but man, it just felt it

882
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: felt good to kind of get that confidence back. I

883
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I can do this, um and

884
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: uh made a good shot. Is really great to see

885
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: him go down, not having that worry of to hit

886
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: him bad, to hit him back, to hit him forward. UM.

887
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: So just a kind of a huge um confidence booster,

888
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: just to kind of remind myself that I know what

889
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing and I could use one of those. I

890
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: could use one of those right now. Yeah yeah, so

891
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I know that feeling. Guy, there's no better feeling. Yeah yeah,

892
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: that was awesome. And then he gave me the phone

893
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: call and we get to sell right and I was like, dude,

894
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw it happened. It was so

895
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: awesome to get a pack hunt a little bit longer,

896
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: just you know. And then I called you, I think

897
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: like a half really alright, you told you told me

898
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: all right, huntill eleven and then we'll get down. And

899
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: then like ten thirty, You're like, do you want to

900
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: get down now? Because I could see him that I could.

901
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: I was just looking at him, stands like all right,

902
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. So that was that was awesome.

903
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: It was It was so cool. That was part of

904
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: that and get to see that all happened, and it happened,

905
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: you know the second day, well, third third day down there.

906
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: It happens that. It usually doesn't happen like that. Usually

907
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't tail end of our trip or doesn't happen

908
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: at all for me. So it was nice and he's

909
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: a nice a nice nice but yeah, if we pulled this,

910
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: we got him back to the back to the truck,

911
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: and I pulled his job bone on him and he

912
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: was three and a half nice three and a half

913
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: year old. Um that was my goal coming into the years,

914
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: try to try to kill a three and a half

915
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: year old, no matter where I was, either Michigan or Ohio.

916
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: Um so I was. I was very happy with that. Yeah,

917
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: he should be awesome. Bucks. So now the pressures on me,

918
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: pressures on last time you killed the buck down there

919
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: was the last time I didn't kill buck down. So

920
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: I hope that's not what happens. We need a year

921
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: where we both kill. No, we haven't, and it's kind

922
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: of I've kind of screwed myself because I've not hunted

923
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: down there at all, but hardly at this year because

924
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: I've been so focused on Holy Field. So I've missed,

925
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, all, most of the best times of the rut.

926
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try to get some maybe a little

927
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: couple of days in late November, I don't have to

928
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: squeeze in like a little two day trips, and then

929
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: if that doesn't work out, then late season. But we've

930
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: seen I mean, we've seen deer down there in late season.

931
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: We've had opportunities at at nice mature bucks in the

932
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: late season down there. I mean you had You've had

933
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: a couple of opportunities. There's a buck that we were

934
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: chasing JJ that I had a chance down there, and

935
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: I yeah, I saw a jawbreaker and Glenn both in

936
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: late November one year, and I saw Glenn the next year,

937
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Um in January, like the last day of the season

938
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: or not that woululdn't be the last day of Ohio

939
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: seas and last day of Michigan season. Um, so yeah,

940
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: they definitely still and I think this year we've got

941
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: corn on that property. Um, that will help us a

942
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: little bit because there should be more late season food there.

943
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: So the dream is still alive for me. But man,

944
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: I was so stoked that you got done. And um,

945
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: it feels good to be tagged out. Yeah, that's a

946
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: good feeling because I have not had that feeling and

947
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: four years down there, so you've tagged out. We celebrated

948
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: that night and then we got talking about Okay, well

949
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do next? And then I in

950
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: my head, I was ruminating on what I should be doing. Like,

951
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, I decided I wanted to go down to

952
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Ohio because you know, we we had played on going

953
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 1: down the High and You're gonna be down there, Coco

954
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: was gonna be down there. Um. And that's just like fun,

955
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: the camaraderie aspect of it, and of course, like the

956
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: best chance to get a buck down there is during

957
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: those that first two weeks in November. UM. So I

958
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: wanted to get down there, but like I mentioned earlier,

959
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: been pushing it back, pushing it back, pushing back because

960
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: I was trying to kill holy Field. But then the

961
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: cell phone incident happened with holy Field, and I was frustrated.

962
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: And I've been hunting that property really hard. I hunted

963
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: it like ten days in a row or something. Um,

964
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: and I was like just stressing so much about everything

965
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: going on. I finally was like, you know what, I

966
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: need to just kind of clear my head a little bit.

967
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: I need to step away from this holy Field thing

968
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: for a couple of days and you know, enjoy a

969
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: little bit of time with my friends down there. Um,

970
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: hunt there a little bit, you know, just have fun

971
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. In the end, that's what

972
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: it's all about having exactly. So I cannot tell you

973
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: how happy I am that I did that either, like

974
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: it was such a good decision. Um, And who knows,

975
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: maybe I would have killed holy Field if I had

976
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: stayed at home those two days, but probably not, And

977
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't care because it was it was so cool

978
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: to be there for that experience of you. You probably

979
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: would have been right in front of you when I

980
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: called you to tell you I shot a buck down

981
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: something like that would have happened. So but after you killed,

982
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: now I knew Alre you killed. Coco already went home

983
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: because I don't remember what he went home, but he

984
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: went home early. So that was, well, do I want

985
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: to keep hunting Ohio or you know? Or should I

986
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: go back chase holy Field? So I was thinking that

987
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: in my head and then like we're sitting there, and

988
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: so do you want to go hunt on Holyfield? Now,

989
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, well maybe I should. Yeah, So we decided

990
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: that yeah I should. Well, and you know, historically the

991
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: last three years anyway you had shot deer down there

992
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: first and the next day or two after that has

993
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: been kind of dead um from after tracking on tracking

994
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So um, and it was supposed

995
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: to be cold at home, like record loads or something.

996
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: We had a big cold front hit at home as

997
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: we really cold. We had mucked up the Ohio property,

998
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: walking all over the place right through the core area

999
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: to get your deer out. So decided, yeah, time to

1000
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: go home. So I drove home that morning. The next

1001
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: story the next morning, drove home, got home in time

1002
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: for the evening hunt. So now I want to talk

1003
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: about the next five of days, the final days of

1004
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: the Michigan bow season. But before we do that, let's

1005
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: take a quick break for a word from our partners

1006
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: at White Tailed Properties. This week, with White Tailed Properties,

1007
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: we are joined by Steve Purviance, a land specialists out

1008
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: of northwestern Oklahoma, and Steve is going to be telling

1009
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: us about what steps to take once you've decided to

1010
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: sell a piece of land. The first they need to

1011
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: come up with an idea of exactly what category it

1012
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: falls in. You know, a lot of the sellers seems

1013
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: to be um that I get. Really, I would say

1014
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: a good half of them anyway, come from out the state.

1015
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe um airs the property that they really don't have

1016
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: lots to do with, or not on a lot um

1017
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they got it in a you know,

1018
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: in a wheel, and they really need to know a

1019
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: little about it. You know. Of course, once they call me,

1020
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: I can look, I can do some research on the

1021
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: computer on area photos and then of course I look

1022
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: at it. But they really need to know what it is.

1023
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, is it agg is it good grass that's

1024
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: really just gonna cater to to you know, local ranchers,

1025
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: or is it going to be a recreational piece with

1026
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: good hunting potentially fishing that would cater to a big wide,

1027
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: you know scale of people, you know, out of status,

1028
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: non residents, people looking for um for property to enjoy

1029
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: and invest in. So that's that's one of the first

1030
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: things they need to do. And then they need to

1031
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: find an agent UM, somebody local that really specializes in that.

1032
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 1: You know. Of course we specialize in the recreational land

1033
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: hunting UM. We can sell any of it and do

1034
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: you know every month, but we we actually specialize in

1035
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: the hunting land UM. But that's that that would be

1036
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: the first steps, UM to coming up with an idea

1037
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: of really what they've got to begin with. If you'd

1038
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: like to learn more and to see the properties that

1039
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: Steve currently has listed for sale visit white Tail Properties

1040
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: dot com backslash purviance. That's p U R B I

1041
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: n C. So now I want to talk about the

1042
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: next five days, the final days of the Michigan Bose,

1043
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: And this is where I need to play Dan. Now, yeah,

1044
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: now you're gonna play. So what Dan usually does is

1045
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: he'll say I got a question. I got a question.

1046
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: He'll say that, um or he'll say he'll he'll recommend

1047
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: doing Iowa tactics in Michigan. Alright, um he what else

1048
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: did he do? He'd um, He'd throw in a curse

1049
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: word or two. I'll try to keep it clear. You

1050
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: can you keep playing if you want. Um Or, he

1051
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: talked about his kids. I don't have you get a

1052
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: dog who he ate a whole whole corn con something

1053
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: a part of a corn cob. Today he's not the brightest. No,

1054
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: that's probably something one who Dan's kids would do too,

1055
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: So I think I think Mac would do that. So

1056
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: all right, so now you know your role, play your part.

1057
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: All right, So we're back in Michigan. I get back

1058
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: in time for the evening hunt. And one of the

1059
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: things me and Dan had discussed on last week's podcast

1060
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: was the fact that I felt like I've been doing

1061
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: like the same things for Holy Field and over to

1062
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: a degree and again. And I apologize that I've been

1063
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: telling this story for years and years. You you all

1064
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: have heard it so many times. So, um, I'll try

1065
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: not to repeat things too much. But I'm pretty limited

1066
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: on this property because of the fact that of it

1067
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: is like just the edge of the field, and then

1068
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: all the good covers on the neighbors that he typically

1069
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: is that where I see him, it's on this neighboring property,

1070
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: and then I just hunt the edges hoping it's going

1071
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: to come out. Um, but that hasn't been working. I've

1072
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: been seeing him, but who cares that you can see

1073
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: him if you can't shoot him. At this point, I

1074
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: don't want to get any video footage of them anymore.

1075
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: I want to get pictures of him anymore. I want

1076
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: to get an arrow on him. So I decided that

1077
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: these final four and a half days the season or

1078
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: five days or whatever it was, I'm just gonna do

1079
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: different things. I'm just gonna do things I haven't done

1080
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: the past. Um, and maybe I'll get lucky. Maybe that

1081
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: will throw him off, because maybe he kind of has

1082
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: got me pegged a little bit. Maybe he does know

1083
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: that I've been hunting in from some of these same locations,

1084
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: um more so than not. So Oh that first night,

1085
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: I UM, I had this idea that maybe I could

1086
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: hunt um the south side of this property because a

1087
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: few nights beforehand, when I had hunted their last, I

1088
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: had seen him coming towards the food plot, and I

1089
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: thought he was going to come into my food plot stand.

1090
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: But instead of coming in, like forty yards before coming in,

1091
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: he turned paralleled it and then walked straight south back

1092
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: behind me through this little tiny chunk of timber and

1093
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: then into the south cornfield. And I don't know what

1094
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: he did at for that point, but with that wind direction,

1095
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: what he could have been doing is he could have

1096
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: went down and then circled down wind of me down

1097
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: into that food plot. So I I hypothesized that maybe

1098
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: he was, you know, entering that way and checking to

1099
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: see if I was in there. So is he going

1100
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: into the south cornfield more times than I'm realizing and

1101
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: going down there and and and seeing if there's someone

1102
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: hunting him? So I thought, I don't know, I've never

1103
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: hunted down there in the south south cornfield because it's

1104
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: it's just like that little this this knob of timber's

1105
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: wide open timber. It's up towards the road. Um. I've

1106
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: never seen mature bucks in there, So I never hunt

1107
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: the cornfield there. I always hunt farther back in the property. UM.

1108
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: But I'm like, well, might as well just trying. So

1109
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: I grab a tree stand and um, hanging news tree

1110
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: stand there and it's um, it's downwind of my food,

1111
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: down wind of this timber. That's down wind of the

1112
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: food plot. Um. Long story, short hangingstand hunted. See a

1113
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: lot of doughs come out at last light. Holy Field

1114
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: shows up with a dough and they step out of

1115
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: the step out of the timber. It's just a little

1116
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: finger of timber. It's like a like a ten fifteen

1117
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: yard wide strip of timber. Really, they stepped out of um.

1118
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: But they were about a hundred yards down from me,

1119
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: and they stepped out and they were just feeding. UM.

1120
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: And it's like really close to last light. Now, I'm like, oh, man,

1121
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: if they if they follow the edge down, they're heading

1122
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: my directions. I said, they keep following the edge down,

1123
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: they gonna come right by me. But instead of staying

1124
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: close to the edge, they went out about sixty yards

1125
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: into the field and then came down maybe sixty seventy yards.

1126
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: So the final five minutes of shooting light or whatever

1127
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: it was past and they come walking all the way

1128
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: past me, right in front of me, but at like

1129
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: yards um, and by the time they got there it

1130
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: was too dark to shoot anyway. So UM, So I

1131
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: saw him. I saw where he came out, UM, and

1132
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: had another close call. That was exciting to see that

1133
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: what I thought might happen, it kind of did happen.

1134
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: At he he wasn't sent checking it like I thought

1135
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: maybe he would. Um. He was with a dough um

1136
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: coming out and she was just come out to feed.

1137
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: But they still kind of panned out, and it told

1138
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: me that, hey, maybe he does use this southern portion

1139
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: more than I thought. Um, because in the evenings I

1140
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: had only ever seen him during the evenings in the

1141
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: past couple of years up at the front front, the

1142
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: front and north part of the property. So that was Um,

1143
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: that was that first day. I'm trying remember what I

1144
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: did the next morning. Um. Shoot, when I do the

1145
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: next morning, I can't keep you straight with where you're

1146
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: You've been bouncing around. Yeah, I'm trying to keep, okay,

1147
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: I think I know it. So next morning I was

1148
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna hunt a betting area off that edge of that

1149
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: corn field is at the back of the property. Back

1150
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: and south of the property there's a big swamp and

1151
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: then there was a little bit high ground on the

1152
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: back side of where there's a great betting area in there.

1153
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: I was going to hunt a new stand I hung

1154
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: this year for the first time right there on the

1155
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: edge of this betting aar. Is that where you did

1156
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: some hinge cutting and stuff? Is it that area? I

1157
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: had done a little hinge cutting in the past down there, Um,

1158
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: And I hung a new stand there this summer. Kylie

1159
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: helped me hang it, actually, so she as a helper

1160
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: that day. Um. So getting that tree stand and someone

1161
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: speaking of this stand I had someone sent me an

1162
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Instagram message saying like, it's crazy how many times you've

1163
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: seen this buck um your egress and ingress. I'm really

1164
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: curious to hear, like how you're getting in and out

1165
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: of these stands without spooking this deer or other deer enough,

1166
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Because I've hunted so many times, I I think if

1167
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: I remember right, I think I've hunted twenty four out

1168
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: of the last twenty five days or something like that.

1169
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: I think sixteen of those have been all days since now,

1170
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: and all but three or four of those days have

1171
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: been hunting this small property for holy Field. And of

1172
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: that property, it's it's ninety acres, but more than half

1173
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: of it is open field. So I'm actually only hunting

1174
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: like forty acres of like huntable timbered or covered acres um.

1175
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: And I've hunted it, you know, like twenty days since October.

1176
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Hunted a ton, I mean, way more than I would

1177
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: ever typically do it, like usually you know, we talked

1178
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: about a lot i'd like to do this drone strike approach, um.

1179
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: But I hunted October one and then waited all the

1180
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: way to because I thought that is when he historically

1181
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: starts moving, and that's that pre run. I gotta be

1182
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: hunting him well. And what's interesting too, you don't have

1183
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways to access this place. It's

1184
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: a tough property to access because on the roadside is

1185
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: all open field, so you have to somehow get across

1186
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: open field um to to agree. So what I've started

1187
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: to do though is so first off, I didn't hunt

1188
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: any mornings all through October. Basically I didn't start hunting

1189
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: mornings till November, so that allowed me not to have

1190
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: to worry about that morning situation where you have to

1191
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: come in the morning and go across these fields and

1192
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: spook a bunch of deer. People probably have heard this,

1193
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: But my evening solution has been that I have convinced

1194
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: my wife by begging, pleading, and doing lots of dishes,

1195
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: to drive my truck or an a TV out to

1196
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: this property and pick me up for my evening stand locations.

1197
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: So she spokes the deer off the fields, picks me up,

1198
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: drives me back home, and that I think has made

1199
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: a huge difference. Like I never could have gotten away

1200
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: with what I've done without that. UM. So that's my key,

1201
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: my little secret to success on this property for my

1202
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: evenings for the mornings. Like I said, I just didn't

1203
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: hunt any mornings for a month because I knew would

1204
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 1: be risky. And then once November arrived. UM, for most

1205
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: of my morning stands I've been hunting have been these

1206
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: betting areas that are on the back of the property.

1207
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Like I said, on my property, it's mostly field on

1208
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: the front. But I have a neighbor whose um property

1209
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: is not fields it's just timber that runs along the

1210
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: southern edge of the farm that I can hunt, and

1211
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: I can hunt my neighbors to um. It's a small

1212
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: property there, but she's given me permission there and also

1213
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: permission to to hunt it or to you know, go

1214
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: through it. So what I've been doing to get to

1215
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: these morning locations. And instead of going across the wide

1216
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: open field, I go into the neighbor's timber and I

1217
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: walk all the way through her property all the way

1218
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: to the back of it, staying in that thick timber

1219
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: swampy stuff all the way the back of my property.

1220
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: And by that time now I'm in my cover. And

1221
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: then I do a big j hook all the way

1222
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: around the backs of the property to get to us.

1223
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: So I'm taking a very long roundabout way, and I'm

1224
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: doing this too to two and a half hours before daylight.

1225
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: So my my from what I can see from a

1226
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: lot of these deers that they feed out into my fields,

1227
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: that they cross the road, and they feed on fields

1228
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: across the road. So if I get in there early

1229
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 1: enough in the morning, like two hours before day most

1230
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: of these deer are still on other farms. They're not

1231
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: back on my farm. So I can do this long,

1232
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: roundabout way so I don't spook too many deer, and

1233
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: even if I do spook a deer or two, probably

1234
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: most of the deer still are in the area. So

1235
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: that's how I've been getting into these morning stands. So

1236
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: that's why I did this day. It took me a

1237
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: long time. I got to the stand, got set up,

1238
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: um maybe about an hour after daylight. And here man,

1239
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: maybe in that half hour after daylight, I hear a crack,

1240
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: like a loud branch cracking in this thick bedding cover

1241
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: in front of me. And this bedding area is thick,

1242
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: like really really really thick, impenetrably thick almost in areas.

1243
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: So what we had to do this summer when I

1244
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: hung the stand is I literally had to like I

1245
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: don't know how you describe it, um, like there's no

1246
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: student lanes through it at all into the stick stuff,

1247
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: Like it's just like a wall. So I had to

1248
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: go and just cut like a swath. I cut like

1249
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: fifty branches and trees. And did you cut it or

1250
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: did Kylie? No? I I did it. She's notoriously more

1251
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: andy than me, I will admit, um, but I am

1252
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: better at cutting tree limbs and branches and bushes and stuff.

1253
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: So I had to clear this like strip. So I

1254
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: cleared like a three foot wide maybe maybe four ft

1255
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: wide like hallway through this thick brushy stuff into the

1256
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: cover to this big trail that leads to there. There's

1257
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: just um, this trail that has got a bunch of

1258
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: rubs on it from the past, and there's scrapes along

1259
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: in the past that kind of runs right to the

1260
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: middle of this little bedding area. UM, so I knew that,

1261
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, if there's about coming through, he's probably gonna

1262
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: be coming through this, um you know, a little bits

1263
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: on the down wind section of it sort of but

1264
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: inside the cover. So I had that student lane and

1265
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: then and then um to my left and right though

1266
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: that was directly ahead of me, but to my left

1267
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: and the right was more open because now we're on

1268
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: the edge of the outside edge of it. So I

1269
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: hear this crack inside the thick stuff, and I'm like, man,

1270
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: that sounds like a deer, and I'm waiting and like

1271
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna grab my ball yet. I'm waiting, and

1272
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: then I hear and I was like, oh, I grabbed

1273
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: my bow. I get pumped and I'm like, all right,

1274
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: there's about coming. But this property has so many deer,

1275
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of deer. There's a lot of bucks

1276
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: on there, but them are young bucks. So I've had

1277
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: this happened many times in the past, heard a lot

1278
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: of bucks grinding over a few days beforehand, that the

1279
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: ten days beforehand. Um, it always been like a two

1280
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: year old or something like that. But he grabbed the

1281
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: bow just in case, and then I see white, and

1282
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: then it was just like instantly, as soon as I

1283
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: saw the white and the frame materialized, it was like, oh,

1284
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: holy Field, no way, Like he's right here. He's the

1285
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen him on the southern part

1286
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: of the property like this. Well, that's not that's a lie.

1287
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: That's a mistake because I'm sort of on the southern

1288
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: part where I had the cell phone incident, actually about

1289
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: eighty nine maybe a hundred yards away from more the

1290
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: cellphone incident was, so a holy Field materializes. He's in

1291
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: the thick stuff though, he's grunting making noise in there,

1292
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's but he's heading right my way

1293
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: on the holy up, He's heading right to my opening.

1294
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a shot at holy Field thirty

1295
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: yards and he's come my way, and then at forty

1296
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: he stops and he's he's just kind of looking around,

1297
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, man, come on, keep coming closer.

1298
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: And I'm um, for the first time this year, I'm

1299
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: holding my boat and I'm clipped onto the bow, just waiting.

1300
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: He needs to come like ten yards closer my way

1301
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: to get into this opening, and clipped on. I'm ready.

1302
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: I got the camera rolling pointed at the thing. My

1303
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: heart's beating a million miles a minute. I'm like locked in.

1304
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: But instead of basically where he was at, he could

1305
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: have turned right or kind of angled to the right

1306
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: onto my trail and into my shooting let, where he

1307
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: could angle to the left and kind of go the

1308
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 1: other direction, not quite the other direction, but a little

1309
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: bit farther away. And of course he chose the path

1310
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: that angles to the left a little bit and stayed

1311
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: at like forty yards. But because he stayed instead of

1312
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: going into my lane, he was behind all us really

1313
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: thick stuff, so we went across in front of me.

1314
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: At forty yards, I couldn't shoot him at all. He

1315
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: got right to the edge of the bedding cover and

1316
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: stopped and then the way my wind was rolling that day,

1317
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: if he went out of that bedding and into this opening,

1318
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: he would have went into my wind zone. And so

1319
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: I was like, please, don't go any further. So he stopped,

1320
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: and then another buck came running in like I don't

1321
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: know if it was a year and a half old

1322
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: or two and a half. Yield came running like sprinting

1323
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: past me, and he must have heard holy Field grunting

1324
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: or something. So he comes running in. Holy Field stops

1325
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: and stairs that buck, and that buck comes running by,

1326
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: and the holy Fields right about to step out of

1327
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: the cover. But I wouldn't be able to shoot him

1328
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: still because of where he's at. So I grabbed my

1329
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: bleat my can com like all rights, maybe if I

1330
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: can give him a come back my way. So I

1331
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: try the can call once, try, I can't call twice.

1332
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: He finally hears it, turns his head, looks at me

1333
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: and the stairs and stairs and stairs, and that buck

1334
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: comes running back, comes back past him, um runs past him,

1335
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: and holy Field looks at him, and he starts following

1336
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: that buck back, and so starts walking back that direction.

1337
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: And then this other buck that ran past and as

1338
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: holy Fields walking away now back the other way. He

1339
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: came sort of that second buck starts blowing. Um, he

1340
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: wasn't in my wind. I don't know what he was doing,

1341
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: but he started like freaking up, making all sorts of noise,

1342
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: and then holy Field just kept going that direction and

1343
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: they disappeared. And I don't know what what happened, but

1344
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: I was kind of like bummed out, like, well, that sucked.

1345
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: It was so close. If he'd been ten yards closer,

1346
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: would have been a great shot. And then this boot,

1347
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: this Bucks books or something the worst noise. Oh, it

1348
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: is the worst noise in the world. Um. So I

1349
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but I sat there saw another

1350
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: like four or five more bucks come cruising through, um,

1351
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: including um, well, let me try to think about all

1352
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: these days are mixing together. I talked about this on

1353
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: on the rut Rail episode that came out earlier this week.

1354
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: I am not like with it. I even talked about

1355
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: this last episode Dan like I've just because of how

1356
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: much I've been the tree and like getting up with

1357
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: three every day, I've just found like I can't talk straight.

1358
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm like having conversations with my wife and she like

1359
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: just like, why are you talking about like nothing I'm

1360
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: saying is making sense, so my mind is just not

1361
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: at so forgive me. Um. It's like the man's version

1362
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: of like pregnancy brainin yeah, yeah, I definitely have rut brain. Um.

1363
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, A bunch of other bucks come through, including

1364
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: a buck that they thought might have been holy Field

1365
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: coming back, but it ended up being his mini me. Um,

1366
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: he's got a buckets a two year old that someday

1367
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: might look like him. Um, he's got these tall Nate

1368
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: pointer with tall times. So when you see him like

1369
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: real quick, you're like, oh, that could be him him,

1370
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: and then you realize it's not him, but just enough

1371
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: to get you excited. Um. Fast forward through the day.

1372
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: One o'clock, I hear a crashing noise out of the bedding.

1373
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: Here again I pulled the buyoes. I see a little

1374
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: dough squirt out of there. At one in the afternoon,

1375
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, like, please pull him out of there,

1376
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: pull him out there. And every time I see a

1377
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: dough like by herself, I always imagine, Okay, holy Field

1378
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: is gonna behind her, but it's never him. But this

1379
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: dough squirts out of there, I'm like, holy Field is

1380
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna behind there, and then there he was, and he

1381
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: comes blasting out there after I'm like, oh, ship, grabbed

1382
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: my bow, spin around, turned the camera. She's coming like

1383
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: my direction. She's kind of trotting away with her little

1384
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: tail flicking, flapping, and they come just busting through though

1385
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: at like sixty sixty five yards and then like at

1386
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: that point, like sixty sixty five yards, she went from

1387
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: like that little trot to them like then she took

1388
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: off and she barrels off and then he barrels off

1389
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 1: behind and they go running off into the timber to

1390
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: my north and then that disappeared. What time is that?

1391
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: Like one o'clock one? Man, I can't believe how much

1392
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 1: action you've been seeing mid day my mid days, Like

1393
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: it's been crazy like every day, like like in our group,

1394
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I've nothing this morning, but man,

1395
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: this afternoon was crazy like midday with nuts. Yeah, this

1396
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: has been Um, I've had better action in the middle

1397
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: of the day during this run than I've had in

1398
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: the mornings. Um. Yeah, that day I saw like six

1399
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: bucks during the middle of the day. I mean the

1400
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: cell phone day. I had holy feel at a love

1401
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: clock in the afternoon and had like three or four

1402
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: other bucks cruising midday that day. Um, the next day

1403
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: I had five bucks come at midday. So yeah, I

1404
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: mean it's it's a true thing box that really has

1405
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: this increased midday movement. Um, so you know, let me

1406
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: take a let me make sure our fire is not

1407
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna go down here little uh. There's some logs in

1408
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: here because I don't want to get cold. So what

1409
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: am I talking about here? We're talking about midday. Yeah,

1410
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: So mid day holy Field butts out of there and

1411
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: um disappears. A couple of hours later. I decided to

1412
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: move to a evening stand location because he had moved.

1413
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 1: I saw him runoff way off north in the timber,

1414
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: and if he was going to come back out, he'd

1415
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: be coming up towards a food source with that dough

1416
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: Maybe you're a dome. So I moved to a stand

1417
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: that I had hung many years ago, but I hadn't

1418
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: hunted the last couple of years ago. That was right

1419
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: by where holy Field had come out the night before

1420
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: hunt that stand. Long story short, don't see him, see

1421
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of doughs. Some young bucks don't see holy

1422
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: Field that night. Next day, I want to hunt that

1423
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: same betting are again, but I want to be on

1424
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: the down one side of it. But because we've had

1425
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: a lot of these funky east winds that we don't

1426
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: get most years, I don't have a stand on the

1427
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: east side of or the start on the west side

1428
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: of that betting area. So I got another portable set

1429
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: and I snuck in like three hours before daylight and

1430
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: hung a new stand in the dark downwind of this

1431
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: betting area. Hunted it that was this is one of

1432
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: those days that the morning was loudsy didn't see anything.

1433
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: But in the middle of the day I saw five

1434
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: or six different bucks, but all um one or two

1435
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: year olds. And then I'm like, all right, I'm just

1436
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna stay hunting this stand for the evening because I

1437
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:04,879
Speaker 1: was only like, you know, fifty yards from the very tiny,

1438
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: smallest finger of corn that heads back, so I'm still

1439
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: close to food type to this bedding area. Maybe holy

1440
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: Field will come and kind of check this section between

1441
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: the bedding and the corn and then transitioned out into

1442
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: the corn. So I'm hunting there. He hadn't been seeing anything.

1443
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: It was raining all that day, and I said, all

1444
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: day through it, and about an hour before daylight, I've

1445
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: been watching some does about two yards down the corn

1446
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: field that had been come out to feed. And about

1447
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: hour before daylight, I see a big body out there

1448
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 1: pulled the buyos. There's holy Field, and holy Field goes

1449
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: walking across the field with these doughs and then goes

1450
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: walking right in front of the tree stand that I

1451
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 1: was hunting the night before. He's a mess. Yeah, So

1452
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: he walked in front of that tree stand twice out

1453
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: of the last three nights. UM, So that was frustrating

1454
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: to see him go right there where I've been the

1455
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: night before. Next morning hunt another tree stand near that

1456
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: bedding area, but again it was a third stand there.

1457
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: So all these three times i've hundred first sit in

1458
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: that stand, but all different sides of this betting year

1459
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: that now I've seen him around. UM, didn't see him

1460
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: that morning, so decided, well, I'm gonna go to that

1461
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: stand where he's been to out the last three nights.

1462
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: So I transitioned to that stand, um, and that night

1463
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: I see him. UM. What I see this was the

1464
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: he's all blurred together. UM. I guess this would have

1465
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: been the last night of bow season. This would have

1466
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: been November, and I'm sitting that stand and maybe an

1467
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: hour before daylight. I see movement in the CRP stuff

1468
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: behind me, glimpse back there, there he is. He's about

1469
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: nine nine yards away in the CRP, right in the

1470
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: edge of my property in the neighbors. You mean an

1471
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: hour before dark? Yeah, what I say, hour before daylight dark? Um,

1472
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: he goes, but he's kind of angling away and he's

1473
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: kind of bouncing. He's definitely like on a doz trail

1474
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: because he was like bounce, bounce, running with his nose down, bounce, bounce,

1475
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: then disappears in the timber. Um. So now I'm paying

1476
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 1: attention over here. I'm like, oh, man, at least I

1477
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: know he's in the general area. There's still lots of

1478
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: time left, and hopefully these doughs are gonna filter out

1479
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: past me and then he'll come. Um. Half hour later

1480
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: I've been watching. Half hour later, I see a body

1481
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: pop out into the corn, but he's like a yards

1482
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: down the field for me. Now the other direction, pulledland binoculars.

1483
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: And even even before pulling my binoculars, I knew it

1484
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: was him just from like his body, because I've seen

1485
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: that so many times, like, oh, there he is, pulled

1486
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: the boculars. Sure as there he was at like ninety

1487
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: yards trotting across the Cornfiel went straight across the open

1488
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: corn field, seeing if there's any doughs out there. There

1489
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: weren't any doughs, went all the way across, entered in

1490
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: the swamp and disappeared. And then that was. That was

1491
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 1: basically the end of the night, last night of both season.

1492
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: And then I'm thinking, man, I was getting your head

1493
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: up to go to a deer camp tomorrow for opening day.

1494
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: Do you have a question? Yeah, I can't stop real quick,

1495
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: but usually what you should say I got. I got

1496
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: a question for you. I'm not doing a very good

1497
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 1: job being down. He's gonna listen to this. How So,

1498
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: in your kind of rut cation marathon on your Michigan property,

1499
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: have you tallied up how many times you've seen him

1500
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: since X State when he started doing this. No, I

1501
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: need to, Um, but I can, I can, I can

1502
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: if you can help me here. I saw him the

1503
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: night of October thirty one. I saw him the morning

1504
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: of November four. I saw him the afternoon of number four. Um.

1505
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: I saw him the next day, November five, in the

1506
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: morning and the evening, then the then um so this

1507
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: is where it starts getting weird and then it was

1508
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: like the seventh or eighth is when I had the

1509
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: cell phone incident. But I mean, you've seen him seventy

1510
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: percent of the days that you've been out or for

1511
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: talking days. I mean, I wouldn't go that far because

1512
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: I started hunting so between the two and the fifteen, um,

1513
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: But I mean you're consistently. Maybe I've seen him a

1514
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: lot since since Halloween. So I saw him the first

1515
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: time on Halloween and then the last time I saw

1516
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: him was I just can't believe how visible he's been

1517
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: as a probably a five. I mean, yeah, I think

1518
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: he's I do think he's a five and a half

1519
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: year old, and yeah, I mean he's incredibly visible, and

1520
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: he's I think it's because he stays tight rough knock

1521
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: on wood, you know. I mean, he's the stupidest smart

1522
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: deer I've ever met my life, because he's so killable,

1523
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: but he stays just out of yeah range, just late

1524
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: enough for there's always something that's just a little bit

1525
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: that he is a step ahead of it. It's either

1526
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: it's either he is the the most unkillable, killable buck

1527
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: ever or he's just being hunted by the worst deer hunt. Ever,

1528
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: like I'm the one guy that can't kill this dear.

1529
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: Anyone else would be like, oh that's easy, let me

1530
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: come out there one day. I've managed to make it

1531
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: a significant challenge. Um. But yeah, but I don't know man,

1532
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: but you know you're good. Um. I decided, um to

1533
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: change my plans and to go out for opening a

1534
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: day a gun season, because if I had had a

1535
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: gun any one of these encounters, I would have killed him.

1536
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: And I've been just I've been debating inside of myself, UM,

1537
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: debating internally, do I want to only try to kill

1538
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: him with a gun or with a with a bow

1539
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: or with a shoot him with a gun and um.

1540
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: I went back and forth on it for a while,

1541
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: and then I kind of realized, you know, I'm not

1542
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: a I'm not a purist. I have nothing against hunting

1543
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: with a gun. I prefer bow hunting. I love bow hunting.

1544
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, just bohunting is awesome. I being close to

1545
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: deer and all that, But I've shot deer withly gone

1546
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 1: and I have nothing against I like it and with

1547
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: his deer. Now, I mean I have hunted. I've never

1548
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: hunted a deer so hard. I've never worked so hard

1549
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: for deer. I've never I know without a doubt that

1550
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: I have given it like everything I have. I mean, um,

1551
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: I feel very much at peace with myself at least,

1552
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: and that like I have done everything I can. I've

1553
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: I've I've struggled, like I've wanted to sleep in, I've

1554
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: wanted not to walk the long way. I've wanted to

1555
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: not hang a news stand, and every time that's happened,

1556
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: I've told myself, Nope, you gotta do it. And so

1557
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: like if any tiny small solace I can take out

1558
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: of this, I can at least say that I know

1559
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: I did it the very best I could. So because

1560
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: of that, at this point, I want to finish the job.

1561
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: I want to kill this deer, and whether I kill

1562
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: him with a bow or muzzload or a shotgun will

1563
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: not change that for me personally be satisfied. I think

1564
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,560
Speaker 1: part of why I was worried about out doing that

1565
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: using a firearms because I know that people would give

1566
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: me crap about it, um, And at first I was

1567
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: like that it's going to be a pain in the

1568
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: butt to deal with. But you know what, with all

1569
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: due respect to everybody out there, I don't care like

1570
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: that I have. You gotta hunt your own hunt. You

1571
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: need to do what makes you happy. You need to

1572
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: do what satisfies you and helps you achieve your own

1573
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: personal goals. And for me, with this dear, I will

1574
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: be just as happy and satisfy it and proud, and

1575
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: I will be probably like breaking down crying in happiness

1576
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 1: if I kill this buck with a bow or with

1577
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 1: a muzzleloader or whatever, um, and that will be just

1578
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: fine for me. Maybe that's not what you would do,

1579
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: and that's totally fine, but this is my hunt and

1580
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to hunt him the way I want to

1581
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: hunt him. So I decided that I will use a

1582
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: firearm if I can. Um, Well, the goal is to

1583
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: kill him, and it shouldn't matter what you use along

1584
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: the legal ethic goal whatever, you know, the goal is

1585
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: to kill that dear. And you know, um, a few

1586
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: years ago, remember the buck six shooter that was hunting

1587
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: right Um. So I've been hunting him with a bow

1588
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. The first year I was

1589
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: hunting him, second yar he disappeared. Third year and hunted

1590
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: all season for with the bow, couldn't kill him. And

1591
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: then mid December I've been hunting all the way through

1592
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: hunting my tail off, grinding and out during Muzzloer season,

1593
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: I killed him at forty yards with the Mussloder And UM,

1594
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: I had someone email me who like was blasting me

1595
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: about it, like I can't believe you would do that.

1596
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: I can't believe. Um, you know, I don't know. He

1597
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: emailed me, like repeatedly, Like he emailed me, and I

1598
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: ignored it. And then like a week or two later

1599
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: he emailed again like how it had been rubbing him

1600
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: the wrong way and he was thinking about it more. Um.

1601
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: And I've got nothing against the guy, Like I appreciate

1602
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: the guy fouling wird hunt. I appreciated him being a fan,

1603
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: but it really pissed me off, Like I'm like, who

1604
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: are you to tell me, like what I should or

1605
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing, etcetera, etcetera. Um, and it bothered me.

1606
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: So this time around, you know, I just I'm not

1607
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna worry about other people. Think it is my experience.

1608
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 1: It is my hunt. Um, and I appreciate people falling

1609
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: along with it. I'm trying to share the true experience

1610
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: of my hunt, what it is for me and what

1611
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm learning from it. And um, you know you can

1612
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: feel free to make different choices even your hunts, in

1613
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: your own hunts. This is what I'm doing in mind.

1614
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: So I had to go out there for gun season.

1615
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: Maybe I could get lucky in day one. Um, it

1616
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 1: ended up being a miserable day. I said, all day again,

1617
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: And starting like nine o'clock, it started raining and it

1618
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: was like I don't know, high thirties or something like that,

1619
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: and then raining, but it was a blowing rain. Even

1620
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: with even with my tree umbrella and my rain gear

1621
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: and everything. Um, I forgot, I wanted to forget. I

1622
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: didn't wear my rain pants. I just wore my rain

1623
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: jacket because I wanted access to all my pockets and

1624
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: stuff on my bibs. And I thought, what with my

1625
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: tree umbrella in a rain jacket on un zipped, I'll

1626
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: be able to stay dry enough. But I didn't think

1627
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: about the blowing wind, and so all the rain blew

1628
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: in underneath the umbrella and so just like everything got wet.

1629
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: My hands are wet, my hand warmer pocket was wet.

1630
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: So it was it was like the most miserable day

1631
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: of my season so far. It was long, cold, wet,

1632
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: didn't seem any deer didn't see holy field, and um,

1633
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: and that's it. So now I'm just crossing my fingers

1634
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: and toes that he can survive um handful more days

1635
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: and and I might make a couple targeted hunts during

1636
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: gun season. I'm not sure if I will or won't,

1637
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: depends on the conditions in the situation. UM, I might

1638
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: go in there after him again, UM, or I might

1639
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: wait until after gun season and then get back after

1640
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: him hard in the late season, um with the bow

1641
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: or muzzleloader, depending on the season. UM. But he just

1642
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, that's all dependent on whether or not he

1643
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: is alive. So there's nothing I can do about now.

1644
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: I just gotta hope pity. Well, you know, if he

1645
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 1: stays alive, this track record is good, that'll stick around there. Yeah, yeah,

1646
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: it's really good. Like my the last two years. By far,

1647
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: he's the most active all year during December on my

1648
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: property because those late season food plots. UM. So I

1649
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to happen. UM, I can

1650
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,839
Speaker 1: tell you that I have stressed more about it than anything.

1651
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: UM that last night of both season, I just sat

1652
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: in the tree and just like I don't know if

1653
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: you ever have you ever had this feeling, but like

1654
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: you just sit there and like you start like looking

1655
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: back on the season and thinking through everything and could

1656
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: I have done anything differently? And you know, all this

1657
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: work gone for nothing or blah blah blah blah blah blah.

1658
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: For the last four years, I haven't killed Okay, so yeah, um,

1659
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: but you know by the end of the night, you know,

1660
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: and I have to do this a lot personally. Um,

1661
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 1: And I've talked about this before. I have a tendency

1662
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: to to get really personally invested in like this kind

1663
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: of stuff. In myn It's a nice I get, you know,

1664
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: my wife always kids. Like every year, I'm like, I'm

1665
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: not gonna get stressed out this season. I'm just gonna

1666
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: have fun. But it never fails. I'm pretty sure you're

1667
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: saying that in September. Yeah, for sure, I'm just gonna

1668
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: have a good time. I'm not gonna get worked up

1669
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: about that. But every year I do like I'm very

1670
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: goal oriented, I'm very um, I'm very focused. So UM,

1671
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 1: I tend to to to to go all in and

1672
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: then um, I let it eat away at me if

1673
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: things aren't going well. And I think every year I

1674
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: get better at it and I deal with a little

1675
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: bit better. Um. But this year, you know, that happened

1676
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 1: to a degree. But I've had to have a couple

1677
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: like a little mini um what's the word, uh, interventions,

1678
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: Like a self intervention. So like after the cell phone incident,

1679
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I had a self intervention. I said, you know what,

1680
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: you need to just get step away because you're about

1681
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: to jump off the tree stand Um, so step away,

1682
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: get back to the on of it. I did that.

1683
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: It was a great decision, came back, had a bunch

1684
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: of really close calls and encounters with holy Field. It

1685
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: was great. It didn't work out. Um, and then after

1686
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: that last day of both season, you know, I was like,

1687
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, all right, it hasn't worked out. You've given it.

1688
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: You're all though. So you know, like I said earlier, Um,

1689
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: the odds are probably that he will get killed over

1690
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks because there's a lot of

1691
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: hunters out there. Um, he's been very daylight active. Um,

1692
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be killed. And that will be like

1693
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: heartbreaking for me. Like it's gonna be a very big bummer.

1694
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: If I get the neighbor sends me a picture or something,

1695
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: I find out, Um, but that's in the end. That's

1696
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: not what it's that's not what it's all about. I mean,

1697
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: I have to take, um, take like it's been such

1698
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: a cool three years getting to watch this deer and

1699
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: hunt this deer and live out this experience, and um,

1700
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: it has like tested me and pushed me farther than

1701
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: anything before. And um, I've learned a lot, I mean

1702
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: and and never I mean, gosh, I mean, if you

1703
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: take all the encounters I've had this past couple of weeks,

1704
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: it's maybe like a dozen. Maybe. Um. Last year I

1705
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: saw him twenty seven times in my own eyes. This year,

1706
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: maybe it's like twelve so far this year. The year

1707
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: before it was like five. Um, so what do is

1708
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: like twenty seven plus let's say thirteen, that's um forty

1709
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: plus another five. I've seen this here forty five times. Maybe,

1710
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: Um it's nuts. And I will probably because I don't

1711
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: own property, I don't have anything like that. I don't

1712
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: know if I will ever have an opportunity to have

1713
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: like this kind of thing with a deer again. Right, Well,

1714
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: you said it a couple of minutes ago. You you've

1715
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: done everything that you can do to try to kill

1716
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: this deer. And I think you even if he does

1717
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: get killed, you can lick yourself in the mirror and say,

1718
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I gave it one heck of a shot.

1719
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think there's really anything that

1720
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you could second guess that you did that. Man, if

1721
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: I would have done this, you know, you've been out

1722
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: there every day when the conditions have been poor, when

1723
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 1: it's been a struggle. So I mean, I think you

1724
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: can look yourself in the mirror and say, you know,

1725
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: I gave it my best shot and it works out awesome.

1726
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, you know, there's not a whole lot

1727
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: you can do about it. That's a that's hunting, right,

1728
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: So live and learn. And I certainly haven't maybe made

1729
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: all the right decisions, are done all the right things,

1730
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: but um, I never I always did everything to the

1731
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: best of my ability and thought process at the time.

1732
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: You know, I always had a thought process, I always

1733
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: had a plan. I always was, um, you know, being

1734
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: mindful and thoughtful about how I was approaching things and

1735
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: trying to take every little thing into account everything I've

1736
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 1: learned over the years, trying to be smart about exit

1737
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: and access, trying to be smart about when trying to

1738
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: be smart about what this dear is doing, how he's

1739
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: doing it, and you know, it's it's kind of been

1740
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: like like your master what's called. Um, I don't know,

1741
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: like you've got to write your thesis at the end

1742
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: of your like PhD program or whatever. Like this has

1743
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 1: been like the culmination of the last decade of my

1744
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: growth as a hunter has been this challenge and I've

1745
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: had to take everything I've learned to try to put

1746
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 1: it all together. Um. And I have not passed the

1747
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: test yet. UM, but I've swung the very best I could.

1748
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a swing in the mist or maybe I

1749
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: will connect and hit my home run. But UM, I

1750
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: know that I did what I could. So that's that's it. Well,

1751
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm pulling fund out. I've told you that before. I'm

1752
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: pulling for you. I appreciate it, man, hope it works

1753
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: out for you. I do appreciate it. And I gotta

1754
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: I gotta say thank you to everyone out there listening

1755
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: to again, just man. Like I've been posting like daily

1756
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 1: Instagram stories like updates throughout every day's hunt, and I'm

1757
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 1: getting like, I don't know, dozens, if not hundreds of

1758
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: messages like over the over the week or two, just

1759
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: people wishing me luck or sharing the thoughts or different things.

1760
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: And then all the emails and Facebook messages and all

1761
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: that stuff, just just tons and tons of support. I

1762
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: appreciate every following along, and I appreciate all of you

1763
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: that are so sick and tired of hearing me talk

1764
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: about this deer, but that you've stuck with me and

1765
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: you've still listened. UM. I promise, probably one way or another,

1766
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: within the next month, either someone else is going to

1767
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: kill him or I will, and you will never have

1768
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: to hear about holy Field again. So that's that. Um.

1769
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: We won't talk about holy Field again until next week.

1770
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: So I want to wrap it up real quick with

1771
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: talking about where we're at. Um. We're at deer camp.

1772
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: So that's where I took off after opening day of

1773
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: gun season. That was yesterday. Today it is the second

1774
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: day gun season. We're up here at our cabin um,

1775
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: and this place is where it all started from me.

1776
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: I've been coming up here since I was like two. UM,

1777
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: but Josh, you are newer. You started coming up here

1778
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: like four years ago or five years ago or something. UM,

1779
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: so as an outside perspective or newer perspective, how would

1780
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: you describe this place, Like why is it cool for you?

1781
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Or do is this play cool? Like it's supero it's

1782
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: like what like when Yeah, it's like when when you

1783
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 1: hear about people talking about Deer Camp for stupid songs

1784
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: like the second Week of Deer came, you know, this

1785
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: is like, this is like what you think about. It's

1786
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: like a cabin with no electricity, totally off the grid

1787
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the woods, like northern Michigan,

1788
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: like swamp, cedars, pine tree. I mean, it's just like

1789
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 1: the whole package. And it's just like everything that you

1790
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 1: would think of Deer Campus. This is it. It's been awesome.

1791
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: It's it's been a great time coming up here. But

1792
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: I think it's five years now. It's been five years

1793
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: and coming up here now, um, and thank you for

1794
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: having me. It's it's been it's been so much fun,

1795
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: hang on with you, hang on with your dad and

1796
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 1: your uncle and just it's been a lot of fun. Yeah,

1797
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: it's a it's one of my absolute favorite places in

1798
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: the world. And um, lots and lots and lots of

1799
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: good memories. There's I mean between between the wall here

1800
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: with all these racks, I mean, I can point to

1801
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: a dozen of these and tell you stories like there's

1802
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: a that setting antlers just above your head, Josh. The

1803
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: top left rack is the first deer I can remember

1804
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: being killed up here. When I was coming up here,

1805
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: I was probably six or seven, and I remember this

1806
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: buck It was an eight pointer that my uncle's shop.

1807
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: And what I remember, I'm so young that I don't

1808
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: remember much about it. All I remember is that this

1809
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 1: one moment, the guys, all the all the men had

1810
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: the deer hung off from the buck pole and they've

1811
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: skinned it out. And usually we don't skin them out here.

1812
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: Usually it's just hung on the buck pole and then whoever,

1813
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: you know, they take it home and they do whatever

1814
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: with it. But for some reason they decided to skin

1815
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: it out, and I guess maybe they butchered the deer.

1816
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. All I remembered is that the

1817
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: hide was laying down on the in the yard. The

1818
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: hide was laying down with with the hair down towards

1819
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: the grass, and then the inside of the hide pointing up.

1820
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 1: And what I remember is that I must I was

1821
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: drinking an orange high sea juice box and I was

1822
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: standing over it looking at it, Like I said, six

1823
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 1: or seven or something like that, and I remember I

1824
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 1: spilled a squirted orange high sea all over the inside

1825
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: of the hide, and I just remember being like petrified

1826
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: that I was going to get in trouble and I

1827
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: don't nobody must have been there, so I just remember

1828
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 1: squirting orange high sea all over it and like panicking.

1829
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I did though. I don't remember

1830
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: like how I tried to resolve the situation. All I

1831
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: remember was spilling orange high sea. Um. So that was

1832
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: that memory. And then my uncle many years later gave

1833
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: me that hide that's now the that's the one is

1834
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: hanging on the wall in my house. I don't know that. Yeah, um,

1835
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 1: that big seven pointer there is probably my most memorable

1836
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 1: night ever. Um. I just remember the snowy night and

1837
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: my grandpa shot that buck. And I was again maybe

1838
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: like nine or ten or something like that, and I

1839
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: remember that was the first year that I remember they

1840
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: brought me along for a track job. It's like me

1841
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: and my dad had been hunting and we came back

1842
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: into the house or back into the cabin and we'd

1843
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 1: heard gp grandpa had we heard the gunshot come from

1844
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: where he hunts. So I was so excited, Like whenever

1845
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: you heard a gunshot, I'd always look at my dad like, Dad,

1846
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: was that one of our guys? That one of our guys, Like,

1847
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, Mark, that was too far away. It's too

1848
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: far away. Then you hear another guns my dad, was

1849
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: that one? Was that one? He's like, oh no, when

1850
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 1: you hear one, that's when you hear what. You'll know what.

1851
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: You'll know it's close enough. And then maybe in our

1852
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: letter when you jump out of your chair like that

1853
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: was one, wasn't He's like, yeah, that was one of

1854
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: our guys for sure. And I remember running back to

1855
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: the swamp to get back to the cab and we

1856
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: get in here and GP comes in and he's like, oh,

1857
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 1: I got one Mark, And we had like this is

1858
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, this is like seven or something. Um So

1859
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: we had like big kerosene like Coleman lanterns or whatever,

1860
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 1: um like, not even like flashlets. We had the lanterns

1861
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: like that. And it was snowing. I don't remember exactly

1862
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 1: how much snow. It was fully coated snow. Remember walking

1863
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: across the fields and get to this creek and you

1864
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: get to the edge of the creek and my grandpad

1865
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 1: dragged him up to the edge of the creek on

1866
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: the other side though, and I just remember we got

1867
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: there and then he held up the lantern high enough

1868
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: that then the light shone across the creek and you

1869
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: could just see this big rack across the way and

1870
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: that was whoa, that is a big bug um. And

1871
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: then um, our friend Terry had shot a nice eight

1872
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 1: point that morning, so we had this big seven point

1873
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: and big and I mean these are big, big Northern

1874
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Michigan bucks um at least three and a half year old,

1875
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe four and a half year old bucks um. You know,

1876
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: impressive racks for this area. And I just remember those

1877
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: two deer sitting on the on the buck pole, and

1878
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I just stood out next to the deer hanging there

1879
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: for hours during the middle of the day. I would

1880
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: just stand out there and walk circles around it and

1881
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 1: look at it and touch it. And yeah, just a

1882
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: lot of cool memories up here. It's an awesome play. Um.

1883
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: We haven't seen tons of deer the last like ten

1884
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: fifteen years. The deer population is plummeted. But I think

1885
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: it's getting better this last few years. Things are improving.

1886
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: We've been seeing some more deer. We're getting some bucks

1887
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: on trail. Camera just pulled the cards here today and

1888
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: there's at least one mature buck, um, which is cool.

1889
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: There's at least one nice one here in camera that

1890
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: he was here in daylight on the eleven and the

1891
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: tenth I think, so that was only five six days ago,

1892
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: so there's a chance we might see him hopefully. I

1893
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll give it a shot. We got a

1894
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: couple of days and um, I'm just excited to be

1895
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: out there and to be here. It's the hunting, it's

1896
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: it's nice now that we've got, you know, the chance

1897
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: of seeing a shooter buck. That's cool, and it's nice

1898
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: to see some deer. And we've been doing some work

1899
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: the last few years of trying to make it better,

1900
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: doing some food plots and trying to figure things out

1901
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: a little bit better. But it's more so just the

1902
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 1: camaraderie and being up here with friends and family and

1903
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: eating lots of junk food. Yeah, oreos and milk and

1904
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: milk beer. I think the best part about up here though,

1905
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: is like you can sleep in like a touch longer. Yeah,

1906
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: But then like the coffee, Like your dad's always got

1907
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,600
Speaker 1: that coffee going in the morning, and man, it's the

1908
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: best part. Yeah. I think my big old like big

1909
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: mugs yea. And the fire has been restoked by you

1910
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: know once once we get up, because Dad gets up first,

1911
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: he's up real early. So by the time we're up

1912
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: and out of our sleeping bag, and that's probably about

1913
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 1: the fifth or six time he's been up. We won't

1914
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: talk about why, oh but uh, but yeah. I think

1915
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: one of my favorite moments is every day when you

1916
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: come in from the hunt. It's cold out and then

1917
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: you step in here and just that just like like

1918
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: a like a blanket of warmth gets wrapped around you

1919
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 1: here and that like the golden glow of the of

1920
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,520
Speaker 1: the propane lights. There's like Josh, Sai, there's no electricity.

1921
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: It's just had these propane um lantern deal lights out

1922
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: to call them um. And then the wood burning stove

1923
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: and he was just some country music playing on the radio,

1924
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: and and then you just have some good food and

1925
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: play cards and you know, it's just good stuff. So

1926
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: I think on that note, we will wrap it up. UM.

1927
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, Josh, any final final things you want

1928
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: to share, Um, yeah, I'll take advantage real quick. I

1929
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: would just say, you know, if if you know anybody

1930
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: out there that's expressed any interest in hunting or anything

1931
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: like that, take them along, get him out there in

1932
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: the woods. That's that's how I got into I mean, Mark,

1933
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: you took me when you know, we went a couple

1934
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 1: of times in high school, and then I really got

1935
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: into it, um after college. And I mean I'm sitting

1936
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: here today doing what I'm doing now a lot of

1937
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 1: it because you showed an I showed an interest in

1938
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 1: You took me out and got me involved in it.

1939
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: So I would just say, you know, be a mentor

1940
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: to somebody, take a take a new hunter out in

1941
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: the woods and and um, you know who knows where

1942
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,560
Speaker 1: it will lead him. But UM, i'd encourage everybody to

1943
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 1: do that. UM. And if you're interested in in starting

1944
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: a branch or getting involved um in Indiana, Michigan, Ohio

1945
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: or even if you're not in that area, get it.

1946
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: Get get a hold of me and I can get

1947
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 1: you in touch with the right people. And um, and

1948
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you. And if you do

1949
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: get in touch with him, please do not refer to

1950
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: him as Mr Hilliard. Please don't refer to him as

1951
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: Josh or Josh Hilliard or j h q dum, which

1952
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: is his Instagram handle. No, none of those things are

1953
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 1: the appropriate title to refer to him. You can just

1954
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: say what's going on in further further. All right, well

1955
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna shut this one down and um

1956
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll have some more good stories for next time.

1957
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: And that is going to do it for us today.

1958
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap it up without any of my

1959
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: occasional end of the podcast rambling. So that said, let's

1960
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: just give a big thank you to our partners at

1961
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 1: Sick of Gear Yetie Cooler's, Matthew's Archery, Maven Optics, the

1962
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: White Tailed Institute of North America, Trophy Ridge and hunt

1963
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: ra Maps, And finally, big thanks to all of you

1964
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 1: who have been listening today. I appreciate it. If you're

1965
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 1: going out in the woods soon do some hunting, I

1966
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: wish you all the luck in the world. Be safe

1967
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: out there, have a great time, and stay wired to hunt.