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At that I'll 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.240 tell you what's cooking today in a variety of ways. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.720 Tom Berduccio's Sports Illustrated Major League Baseball Network analyst. He's 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.600 been busy this week. This was supposed to be a 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:37.000 quiet week getting ready for the conference title games. Baseball's dominated, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.840 and not necessarily in a good way. Chris Simms from 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.880 NBC Sports on the two teams that will play in 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.800 the Super Bowl. He'll join us coming up a little 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.560 bit later on. The Mets have fired Carlos Beltron, the Astros, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:53.640 Jose L Twove denies allegations. We'll talk about those allegations 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.760 coming up, and of course the Titans at the Chiefs, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.160 Packers at the Niners coming up this weekend. 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It can last a couple of days, maybe 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.840 a couple of weeks, but normally there will be another 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.440 scandal or big story that comes along and then we 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.880 jump on that one. But Major League Baseball was probably 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.440 hoping this Segin stealing scandal wouldn't last this long. Statements 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.440 were made, They handed down suspensions. Current managers lost their 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.519 jobs j hensch Alex Cora, Carlos Beltron, and now we 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.720 moved to the next phase of the scandal. So right 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.840 now unproven accusations that the Astros players use electronic buzzers 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.800 to tip pitches. You might say these are just conspiracy 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:50.280 theorists to random people on Twitter, but that's exactly who 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.640 has been filling in the details from the start of this, 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.839 if you think about it, and this hasn't been Major 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.360 League Baseball. So now we wait to see what happens next. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.880 Be asterisk next to the Astro's championship seems to be 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.120 growing larger by the day, and maybe maybe there's not 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.360 much more to this and things will start to slow down. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.080 Right now, it feels like the sign stealing scandal still 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.560 has plenty of legs. We're gonna talk to Tom Berducci 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.920 about this because the whole buzzing letting you know what's 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.919 a fastball and an off speed pitch? Did Josel Tuve 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.400 getting wired up? Did some of the other players have 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:31.360 wires on them? The Astros can't say, hey, come on, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.080 you can't think that we would do that if you 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.800 did something as blatant as bang the drums slowly. Then 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.919 I have to at least consider this. I don't know 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.599 if you're gonna go, hey, we'll cheat there, but oh, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.359 we wouldn't do that. You don't get the benefit of 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:51.280 the doubt. You lost that, I know, Josel. Tuove said, 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.919 through his agent, Scott Borres, he vehemently denied this. I 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:59.680 would assume that he would vehemently deny this. Now, he 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:04.600 did benefit from cheating. If you're gonna be able to 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.680 look from centerfield and get this, you know the signals, 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.160 you're gonna know what a pitch is off speed, fastball, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.359 you benefited from it. And then there's the video that 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.720 came out where he's saying, please don't rip my jersey 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:21.560 after he hit the game winning home run off Roldis Chapman. Now, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.920 maybe it's just a coincidence. Maybe God, I hope not. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.080 I hope it's real because the players have got off 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.240 Scott free on this And the reason why they have 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.320 is the commissioner does not want to take on the 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.320 players union. That's really what it comes down to. There's 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.320 no managers union. He fired three guys. He waited till 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.440 Carlos Beltron well, he didn't. Wait. But Carlos Beltron goes 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.880 from being a player on the Astros to a manager 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.279 with the Mets and retires undefeated as the manager of 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.839 the New York Mets. Because you can punish him, the 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.479 Mets chose to punish him. I don't know if Major 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.440 League Baseball it felt like they had moved on. They 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.359 weren't going to punish Carlos Beltron. But the players, the 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.760 players are the ones who cheated. Yes, was it under 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.800 the watchful eye or maybe not so watchful eye of 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.679 the front office and the manager. But feels like there 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:15.240 might be something to this. Yes, kind of sounds like 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.200 like a future Jeopardy question, like this guy was the 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:24.520 only manager to never win? Or lustry? Who is Carlos Beltron? 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:31.560 Alex thank you USA Today had a column, and part 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.560 of the column read in the wake of his firing, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:38.000 alleged relatives would be online sleuth. Aggrieved fans and players 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.920 themselves let virtual torches and marched into the online Square 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.359 of Grievances to tweet wild but highly unsubstantiated claims of 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:52.120 further cheating by the Astros. Does Baseball have further specific 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.840 details corroborated or not of the Astro's cheating, yet lacked 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.480 either a preponderance of evidence or the stick for an 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.320 ugly protracted fight against some of the game's biggest superstars, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.400 and the Astros on field, rivals and fans across the 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.080 world put this behind them without a pound of flesh 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:16.520 belonging to blue chip names like Bregman, Altoba Springer. It's 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.840 quite possible that there's so many pissed off parties around 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.400 the game that further details or at least some degree 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:28.400 of specificity regarding the players did what emerge, and that 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.640 might provide relief to the Astros themselves. Without it, they 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.240 all might as well go up to the plate with 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.600 a waste management receptacle around their waist, as that's how 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:43.800 millions of people will remember them. Yeah, you can't say 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.200 give us the benefit of the doubt in a situation 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:50.840 like this, can't. Now. Is it a wild accusation, unfounded? Yes, 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.920 But keep in mind. Do you remember that there was 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.680 a guy who was on Twitter said John Boy was 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.600 his handle, and he's the one that said I got 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.200 video and you can hear the drum being banged during 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.440 a game. Put it together for everybody, you know, he 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.480 was the sleuth here. Easy to consume this. You see 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.080 it in real time, you hear it in real time, 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.040 and you go, oh my god, they did do that. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.400 Oh yeah, but they only did it a little while. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.600 This always goes back to when somebody says, you know, 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.440 I cheated, I used steroids, but you know I only 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.560 got I only did it to get healthy and then 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.640 I stopped. Oh okay, you know they helped you. And 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.640 then now you started, you say, oh, I got a 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.520 conscience here. This is just to get back to help 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.480 my team. Okay, we only cheated for a little while, 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.240 and then you stopped. Did you stop because somebody said stop? 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.400 Apparently he didn't because your manager lost his job if 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.880 he broke two monitors and you still managed to continue 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.920 to teat. And now we're gonna go with it. But 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:57.080 they wouldn't do buzzers. You don't get the benefit of 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.240 the doubt here. But Baseball, I don't know if this 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.439 commissioner gets to the point where it looks embarrassing if 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.600 he doesn't take on these players in the players union. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.000 And that's a powerful union to take on, maybe the 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.880 most powerful union in all the sports. But I can't 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.920 keep you know, punishing these managers when the players were 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.480 doing it as well, and they benefited from this as well. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.280 But we'll talk to Tom Bernucci about this. Does this 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.520 get bigger? Yes, you know as odd yesterday afternoon, early afternoon, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.320 the buzzer story started swirling very hot on Twitter. But 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.880 that's the first a lot of us had heard of it. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.199 By four or fifteen. Joel Sherman of MLB Network. MLB 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.600 Network said MLB explored wearable devices during the investigation to 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.400 astros but found no evidence to substantiate it. It's odd 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.440 that they investigated that option of devices on your body 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.240 a month ago and we're just finding out that they 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.160 were looking into it. They put out the statement again, 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.360 this gentleman works for MLB network, this reporter, he has 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.760 a direct pipeline to MLB, and they jumped on the 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.080 story and said, we already looked at the nothing to 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.400 it within hours of it becoming a rumor. Well, I 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.440 think that there were rumors already there and then it's 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.880 surfaced and now you have to address it. I think 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.319 that that's really what this came down to. This has 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.160 sort of been there simmering for a little while for Duce. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.920 You'll know the timeline of you know, the possibility of 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.640 the Astros doing this is McLevin ready with his Titans 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:30.079 uniform or whatever he's wearing, paying off the bed. Let 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:37.199 me see you. Wow, mclove that's great. It's like Harry 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.440 Hamlin just walked in MS. It kind of looks like 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.400 he's in Monty Python's Holy Grail. He looks like one 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.000 of those guys. So mclovitt has a wig on and 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:51.920 then he's in a Clash of the Titans. Outfit, Julie, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.520 we assess your outfit, mclovin. So I went a line 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.400 and bought it outfit. I was supposed to be Haydes 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.839 from the movie Class of the Titans Tighten, a well 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.679 known movie from two thousand and ten, a remake of 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.439 a seventies movie, but they didn't include the cool looking 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.120 wig and beard. They just had the tunic and like 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.840 the old school. So I had to take my wig 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.000 from what I dressed up as a soccer player Felini. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.640 It's an Afro wig. So the whole thing is not working. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.280 But I'm supposed to be a Titan. Your hair looks 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.040 like Dan Marino's when he was at Oh, that's pretty good. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.080 When he was in college. You have a damn Marino 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.520 look just to your hair. I was kind of looking okay, 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.160 not like a horse shack from Welcome Back Carter, Like, okay, 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:33.960 I could say a little bit of that. But yeah, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.360 this was Remember when I dressed up as Felini for Halloween. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.400 Want So that's the only way we could find if 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.319 if I had the right wig, this will look tighten 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.400 like right now, it's I don't know, it's like a 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:49.319 middle medieval nerd. It looks game Yeah, tighten your secondary 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.559 figure in Game of Thrones. Well that's the time with Titan. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.360 What does the Titan look like? It's like a hoya. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:54.800 I mean, at the end of the day, we don't 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.760 really know what air their mascots a squirrel. We were 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.960 very confused by this. Hey, watch what you say about 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.360 my Titans double or nothing? And you have to dress 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.880 like this next? No, you know, because I picked the 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.480 Chiefs to win the Super Bowl, so I can't go 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.560 against the Chiefs even with my Titans. There is the 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.800 point spread still around seven seven and a half. Yeah, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.680 green Bay's a seven and a half point underdog. I 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.800 saw it come down to seven. Okay, but green Bay's 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:25.880 good bad. They're long eyes to win the super Bowl, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.199 they're seven to want to win the Super Bowl. I 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.320 feel like that'll take Chiefs one the favors favorites. I 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.240 pleased to win the Super Bowl, I think right now. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.360 But if you're looking for that matchup, if we put 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.520 that this out of the poll question, the matchup that 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.400 you want to see in the Super Bowl, does anybody 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.000 vote for anything other than Chiefs and the Packers? Aside 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.880 from if you're a nine Yer fan or a Titan fan. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.480 Feels like you would say, I want to see Aaron 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.480 Rodgers against Patrick Mahomes. What Andy Reid a former Was 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.280 he a former assistant in Green Bay? Two? Yeah? Okay, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.439 first super Bowl match up? Are you gonna ready to 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.280 get here? But that might be a downside though you'll 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.959 hear about that. I'm okay, I don't all I'd want 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.760 to do. Every time we go to the Super Bowl, 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.680 people say, oh, you know, what are you? Who are 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.800 you rooting for? You said, just a good game because 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.240 we put so much time and effort. Last year wasn't 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.120 a good game at all. Close but not a good game. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.880 You want you want the hype to build, but you 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.120 wanted to live up to the hype and we spend 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.040 all week there at the super Bowl, have great gafts, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.040 you talk about the game, and then you want the 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.040 game to pay off. And there was a long stretch 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.480 where the Super Bowl didn't pay off, where the games 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.640 weren't good, they weren't competitive, and then we had a 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.360 great run there, you know, beating the rams of Patriots 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.920 with that win. It was it was a boring super Bowl. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.560 That's all I'm hoping for Kansas City. If Kansas City, 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.199 green Bay great. I just want it where it's competitive, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.840 where it's fun, and I would I would imagine people 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.840 would be okay if you said Kansas City and Green Bay. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.120 What other poll questions do you have Carlos Belti we 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.240 debated yesterday, do you think he ever deserves to work 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.400 as a manager again in baseball? Or and you could 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.760 extend it as any player involved in the scandal deserved 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.600 to be a manager down the road. Well, the only 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.920 thing I would be concerned about here is you cheated once? 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.920 Does that mean you learned your lesson and you wouldn't 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.320 cheat again. Carlos Beltron was the one player who was 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.640 singled out by the commissioner. Now he becomes a manager. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.880 What makes you think that he would go, oh, you 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.960 know what I got by unscathed here and I'm going 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.920 to be the manager of the Mets. I don't know. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.440 I am to give a lifetime band, which is what 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.800 you're doing here. And you'll equake this to what Pete 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.280 Rose did because you're giving him a lifetime ban. Is 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:49.120 that fair? They were warned and that's really what it 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.000 comes back to. They were warned and then they did 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:57.760 it again. They may have made it better, but I mean, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.000 I would like for Carlos Beltron to get a chance 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.600 to manage. Maybe he will, but it'll take a while 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.320 before he does. I'm guessing. And you know a J. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.400 Hinch An Alex Score, those are proven managers. Those are 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.600 world series winning managers here. Yeah mc clem, you know, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.880 I was thinking of one analogy. Greg Williams is back 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.400 in the NFL. He even interim coach last year after 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.600 at the bounty gate. He was but that's not cheating 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.120 that that's just he put a bounty ount right, but 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.280 he was. Isn't that kind of cheating or wasn't that 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.160 considered cheating? What was that? Bounties have been around for 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.080 a long long time. Well is it not to get 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.160 him back for a year, but cheating to this degree. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.040 They're different sports too, so their approach to discipline or 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.360 giving you a second chance, it feels like it's a 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.440 little bit different with football with Greg Williams and he's 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.800 a defensive coordinator and we're like nobody's talking about Greg 0:15:53.800 --> 0:16:02.760 Williams anymore as opposed to him being the head coach. Yeah, hey, Rod, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.760 he's had a redemption story. Yeah, but that's a whole 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.880 campaign to get in the Hall of Fame. You know 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:13.840 that that's that's that's something different that that's where you know, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.880 it feels like he's got a pr firm saying how 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.560 do I get into the Hall of Fame? Yeah? You know. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:20.720 The one thing I don't know being talked about here 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.440 is if you were one of the managers that got fired, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.120 wouldn't you be really angry that the players are receiving 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.840 no punishment whatsoever, Players who are proven to have benefited 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.520 from this, proven to have participated from this. If Carlos 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.960 Beltran didn't apply for our manager job, he'd be off 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.520 Scott free. He would get no punishment. Yeah, there's current 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.800 players on the Astros who have benefited financially world serious money, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.960 world serious rings and they're not getting anything. And isn't 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.800 that a dangerous precedent? Commissioner Manfred set because he's afraid 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.360 of the players union. Yeah, because now I know I 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.080 could come up if I'm a player, I can come 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.000 up with a sign stealing program using technology and there 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.600 will be no punishment because there was none before. You 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.920 can't invent it the next time. Yeah. I just think 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.280 the commissioner doesn't want this to be a prolonged kind 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.320 of legal battle where it goes on for months, it 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.720 goes into the season, and then what do you do 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.399 and how do you punish them? And how much do 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.680 you punish them? And if you do punish them, then 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.280 of course it resurfaces. They should vacate the championship, the 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:21.359 World Series. It's a mess. It is it's it's a 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.000 mess for baseball. And I thought coming down hard on 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:28.280 the Astros with the GM and the manager, okay, Baseball 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.800 needed to do that. And then we branched out to 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.199 Alex cor and the Red Sox came down hard on it. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.080 I don't know who else is going to be involved 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.480 in this with the Red Sox like that. Investigations on 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.000 going here and do we find out something more about 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.119 the astros And it feels like we will. It's just 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.560 a question of how much we're going to find out 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.000 when we find out, and will the commissioner act upon it. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.840 But I would I would be holding those players accountable. Now, 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.080 just just give the optics that you're going to hold 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.800 them accountable. You might not be able to press charges, 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.880 you might not be able to fight the union successfully, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.080 but I'd be calling some of those guys in and saying, 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.240 you know what we need, we need to sit down 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.840 and really just got And maybe they did. Maybe they 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.160 talked to these players and maybe they got enough information 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.720 that helped them, you know press, you know fire aj 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.000 Hinch and the GM Lune. But and I want a mess. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.640 We'll talk to Berducci about this. I'm sure he loves 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.600 talking about this. Verducci, he's like Tim Kirchin, Buster Olney. 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.960 They loved to talk about the greatness of baseball, and 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:28.959 there's so much to talk about. It's when you call 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.160 him and you go, hey, can you talk about this scandal? 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.520 Hey Tom, we were thinking about you. There's this scandal. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.560 Would you like to talk about it? Remember when I 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.440 brought it up to Tom, and I think this might 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.520 have been when it first surface, maybe three weeks ago. 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.639 We had him on and I said, you really believe A. J. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.640 Hinch did not know what was going on? And look, 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.920 we like AJ Hinch, But I said, you can't sit 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.720 here and tell me that he did not know what 0:18:55.800 --> 0:19:00.240 was going on when somebody's banging a garbage dumb stir 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.840 in the back and you're the manager and it's banging 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.600 in your ear too. 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