Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast didn't fall out that window.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition on the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. I'm joined in the room
Speaker 1: that's filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? All right? Tuesday's show, Week one
Speaker 1: in the rear view. A lot to get to today.
Speaker 1: Good to be back on a Tuesday show. Our longtime
Speaker 1: listeners will know we did this show five or five
Speaker 1: seasons or so and then had to skip it. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: a year we're back. Shadowy League figures and made us
Speaker 1: change our night. It's like when the sitcom that they decide,
Speaker 1: oh let's move them to Friday nights at eight pm,
Speaker 1: and then the ratings tank and then they blame the sitcom.
Speaker 1: No bro put us back on the time spot where
Speaker 1: we thrived. That's where we never even I think as
Speaker 1: early as week one last year, you know, we enjoyed
Speaker 1: doing uh the we the opportunity given to us. We
Speaker 1: did the best we could have. But no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say we did but like the but the schedule never
Speaker 1: felt proper right, and we were just talking about because
Speaker 1: who knows how long we'll do these Tuesday shows. Um,
Speaker 1: like these fading bands that are still touring deep into
Speaker 1: the you know, twenty thirty years after the relevance. Where
Speaker 1: will we be thirty years from now? Where I mean,
Speaker 1: I see the only place we could go potentially is
Speaker 1: like overseas Europe, do sol doorf I mean like and
Speaker 1: once upon a time in Hollywood where he has to
Speaker 1: go to Italy to make the couch. I mean to
Speaker 1: stay even vaguely relevant, I'd stay four or five years.
Speaker 1: Ten years from now, we would be very hot water.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be hitting some of those same venues as
Speaker 1: bands are hitting the Troubadour, you know, all around the country.
Speaker 1: This scenario, all four of us are still together as
Speaker 1: one entity. I'm just saying that this still existed. That's
Speaker 1: a thirty year forty years now. Or are we just
Speaker 1: saying no, We're gonna go three more years and it's
Speaker 1: over and then what we I still have to make money,
Speaker 1: don't you how something that's a good transition, um, West, Actually,
Speaker 1: the four of us, I just wanted a little family meeting. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's head downstairs. Actually, let's go let's go down
Speaker 1: It's just the lamb. Let's go out to the lab. Mark,
Speaker 1: you two all right, it's been a long time since
Speaker 1: we've been in a while. Died a natural death. I thought, well,
Speaker 1: it's alive, like Frank and Studd brought brought to life
Speaker 1: down here. Um, I just want to make sure everybody's
Speaker 1: cool after Sunday show. West, Greg, you've got a little heated.
Speaker 1: It's a fair question. A little family meeting here, Mark,
Speaker 1: and I obviously concerned the listeners as well. Ricky, you
Speaker 1: weren't even here. Yeah, I was up in Wine Country
Speaker 1: and I got asked if you guys were Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of glad she didn't. I mean, you know, it
Speaker 1: was an engaging discussion, but I think you probably were
Speaker 1: in a more celebratory place. Yeah. So Greig gave a
Speaker 1: speech at my wedding. I think we can survive Antonio Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're you know, West and I are brothers, brothers, and
Speaker 1: as we've seen with the Wesley brothers, they're gonna fight sometimes.
Speaker 1: We we had moved on and we're talking bigger and
Speaker 1: better topics. Immediately, I think it was important just to
Speaker 1: have a family meeting. And yeah, I mean as opposed
Speaker 1: to burying your feelings in in in four or five
Speaker 1: seconds in acting like nothing mattered at all. We're fine,
Speaker 1: we move on, and I'm still concerned a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're kind of like the concerned parents for the brothers
Speaker 1: that we're fighting and just talk it out. Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: is gonna come up and the news later today. So
Speaker 1: we just as long as everyone's on the same page,
Speaker 1: and you guys have moved on as brothers. That's more
Speaker 1: of a testing ground when we get into the thick
Speaker 1: a bit, you know, issue nice, nicely done. Dad, never person.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's get out of last Dad.
Speaker 1: I thought I was what's Erica Icas? Our little sisters?
Speaker 1: He's a little sis. That means Dan and I berth Erica.
Speaker 1: That is a ridiculous scenario. You birth Erica. That means
Speaker 1: that one of you guys to win Disney World Right,
Speaker 1: isn't the first man to give birth? Don't they win
Speaker 1: Disney World? Mark? What does that even mean? Not worth
Speaker 1: it at all. I could get in there today if
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I The whole thing reeks of poor planning.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, that's good, because yes we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown and Bill Belichick's comments on the New
Speaker 1: Patriot its wide receiver. That deal is now official. We
Speaker 1: will also um do a little by hold cell after
Speaker 1: Week one on a number of topics we'll hit. We'll
Speaker 1: look ahead to Thursday Night football UH and week two,
Speaker 1: which begins with the Bucks at the Panthers. Nice little
Speaker 1: match up there. But before we do any of that,
Speaker 1: including the news, let us finish the Week one slate
Speaker 1: with two Monday night football games, starting with v game
Speaker 1: of Week one and one of the better Monday Night
Speaker 1: football games of the decade. Let's go, Ricky snap placement
Speaker 1: looks Leans into it, lots is done the distance always,
Speaker 1: Donna says when New Orleans gets the w in the
Speaker 1: season opener, and Will looks just the hero. What's give
Speaker 1: me some of that music, Ricky, give me some of
Speaker 1: that too. No, well, here's a kicker. It's true. I
Speaker 1: kind of like, I kind of like alright, let's roll
Speaker 1: with it. Will LUTs bangs of fifty eight yard field
Speaker 1: goal at the gun, uh, lifting the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: to a thirty to win over the Texans. An incredible
Speaker 1: game featuring two quarterbacks playing at their peak. Drew Breesh
Speaker 1: got LUTs in position to drill that kick with some
Speaker 1: really fine QB play in the last thirty seven seconds
Speaker 1: of playing time. It only got to that point where
Speaker 1: the Saints are behind because my, my goodness, Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: goes to place seventy six yards and hits Kenny Stills
Speaker 1: to shock the Super Dome into silence. Uh. There, there
Speaker 1: was so much drama in this game, west really really
Speaker 1: good football. There was a lot of sloppy football throughout
Speaker 1: the week, but this one was kind of an instant
Speaker 1: classic and the Saints come out on top. One of
Speaker 1: the best Monday night games I've seen. Due to my
Speaker 1: own um habits on Monday night watching game pass, I
Speaker 1: didn't come in to the reiving room to watch with
Speaker 1: Lakisha until the Hopkins passed at the end there, and
Speaker 1: I felt like I watched the whole game after that,
Speaker 1: and it was only it was incredible. I was amazed
Speaker 1: at I guess I shouldn't be at this point at
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson's just uncanny ability to play his best
Speaker 1: when he's behind in a tough situation. It reminds me
Speaker 1: so much of the Week sixteen game against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: where he led a great comeback but then the defense
Speaker 1: couldn't hold it at the end and Romeo Cornell that
Speaker 1: the coordinator who had such a great first half ultimately
Speaker 1: saw the Texans defense, which was very good for all
Speaker 1: of last year, totally collapse on itself. Gave up twenty
Speaker 1: seven second half points. Kind of a vintage Drew Brees
Speaker 1: comeback in second half performance. And the soft coverage that
Speaker 1: they played on the final past New Orleans crew was
Speaker 1: just brutal. If you're a Texans fan too, have done
Speaker 1: so many good things in that game and still loses time.
Speaker 1: Wake me up in the game where the soft coverage
Speaker 1: scenario in the final mid and a half against the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback works out for you. It's very rare.
Speaker 1: I this game is one of those ones and held
Speaker 1: of everything. Along with DeAndre Hopkins starring as an actual player,
Speaker 1: he unfurled a German supplex on a Saints player, which
Speaker 1: was enjoyable to watch. Um Taysom Hill got first the
Speaker 1: first of his seven touchdowns. Bring me simmses but off
Speaker 1: to a good start and all I want to see
Speaker 1: is how are you gonna use players? And it gave
Speaker 1: me a good sense. Come out of the game a
Speaker 1: little concerned about both secondaries, but It was a bit
Speaker 1: of a victory for Bill O'Brien even in the loss
Speaker 1: that Kenny Stills played an integral big part. And I'm
Speaker 1: not too worried about the Laramie Tunsil situation. Yet he
Speaker 1: gave up. He did not play an ideal game at all.
Speaker 1: But it feels like it would be hard in a
Speaker 1: way that we never understand to jump in as a
Speaker 1: left tackle on a team in an offense with like
Speaker 1: four or five days to prepare. It was a great
Speaker 1: start by those running backs to Duke and Carlos Hide.
Speaker 1: Especially Carlos Hide look pretty good for a guy who's
Speaker 1: been given up for if times, they looked like a
Speaker 1: perfectly competent one to punch the uh. I believe the
Speaker 1: Texas ran for a hundred and eighty yards and the
Speaker 1: and the Saints had not given up more than a
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve all of last season, so they moved
Speaker 1: the ball on the ground. Pass protection remains a major
Speaker 1: issue for Houston, and yeah, we'll see if Tounzil straightens
Speaker 1: himself out. He got beat on a really bad um
Speaker 1: third down crucial play late in the game, but that
Speaker 1: that plays like a good example of why it's tricky
Speaker 1: sometimes to blame the tackles. They you know, the pass
Speaker 1: rusher headers can jump the snap. I mean he was
Speaker 1: off and that's that has nothing to do with the
Speaker 1: tackle and Watson. I wouldn't say that sack is exactly
Speaker 1: as fault, but he went back about eleven or twelve yards.
Speaker 1: The idea is you want to push the guy behind
Speaker 1: your quarterback, and Tonsil even pushed him. And I would say,
Speaker 1: the how many sacks were they were there six six
Speaker 1: in that game. At least two of them are on Watson.
Speaker 1: That's just part of his playing style. That the line
Speaker 1: didn't play well either. I'm not defending it, but but
Speaker 1: it wasn't all well. I just my concerned the pressure
Speaker 1: came from both sides, you know, and that's not it
Speaker 1: just it wasn't It was not a clean game on it.
Speaker 1: How long can he last? And everyone's asking the same
Speaker 1: question on Twitter, but you know he's he's he's clearly
Speaker 1: got a back issue by the time that game ended
Speaker 1: from that touchdown running had and this stuff is the
Speaker 1: kind of way he plays is gonna in fight injuries.
Speaker 1: It was a brilliant performance by Watson and you know,
Speaker 1: I as we know, if you listen to this podcast.
Speaker 1: I've been pumping up the Texans all season, and I
Speaker 1: just think that it's been too often overlooked how great
Speaker 1: this guy is. And I think maybe Monday and Last
Speaker 1: Night changes that because that's such a big audience watching
Speaker 1: it and he starts to finally get recognize for being
Speaker 1: a truly special talent um And and that's to me
Speaker 1: when I look at the a f C South and
Speaker 1: I know their own one, so own one his own one.
Speaker 1: But the X factor in the division to me is
Speaker 1: the Texans have the Shaun Watson and the other teams don't.
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna make the difference if he
Speaker 1: stays healthy. Question mark of course, um, I don't think
Speaker 1: any of these other teams catch the Texans. I think
Speaker 1: that when I specifically talk about the holes on their roster,
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of overlooking how special Deshaun Watson and DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins are and j J. Watt just because he had
Speaker 1: one game where he didn't make much of an impact,
Speaker 1: he's still special to I mean, I think that depth
Speaker 1: is important, but but also stars win games. But he
Speaker 1: also needs to be j J. Watt because without Jadevan clowney.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's getting a little more attention. Ryan Ramchuk totally
Speaker 1: shut him down as was one of J. J. Watt's,
Speaker 1: you know, worst career games, and then where are your
Speaker 1: special plays coming from? Because eventually that secondary kind of cloud.
Speaker 1: It was a vintage Watson performance and I think one
Speaker 1: reason he got overlooked this offseason is final impressions that
Speaker 1: we had of him last year the playoff game. And
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with Drew Brees. I think we
Speaker 1: overrated how the end of last year went on some
Speaker 1: level just because in the end, he was the second
Speaker 1: best quarterback on balance in the NFL last year and
Speaker 1: even in this game, like he isn't the story and
Speaker 1: they put up yards in twenty seven halftime. I can
Speaker 1: have point he's part of a bigger system. He's got
Speaker 1: great players around him, but I think he can run
Speaker 1: that system. This game did not make me feel better
Speaker 1: about Drew Brees. I think it's a privilege to watch
Speaker 1: today's veteran quarterbacks uh in clock management at the end
Speaker 1: of the game because they've taken it down to a science,
Speaker 1: whereas thirty years ago that wasn't a thing. But the
Speaker 1: field has condensed for the Saints offense. It just has
Speaker 1: since since the first half of last year. They're playing
Speaker 1: on a smaller field and they need Alvin Kamara and
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas to be special because Drew brees arm isn't
Speaker 1: what it was, But he didn't attempt to pass over
Speaker 1: thirty yards until that Tedkin forty yards shot in the
Speaker 1: final two. I hear you. It's just they had a
Speaker 1: two plays over forty yards, another over third, two more
Speaker 1: over thirty. It's just the bar is so high with them.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not fun to watch. And maybe he's not.
Speaker 1: Their margin for airs just a little smaller than it was.
Speaker 1: And I would be worried if I was them, about
Speaker 1: their defensive tackles and their run defense, and and maybe
Speaker 1: a few things about one little thing. And Dan, you
Speaker 1: pointed out that this is a Twitter victory. I loved
Speaker 1: that ESPN. And you know, I think Monday to Football
Speaker 1: is under a fair amount of pressure. To put it mildly,
Speaker 1: like they unfurled this um for this down and distance
Speaker 1: marker that was bright yellow, and so if you've watched
Speaker 1: football for more than five weeks, your eye is thinking penalty,
Speaker 1: and so you're drawn to what the drama is and
Speaker 1: there's none because it's second and five. But by halftime
Speaker 1: they ESPN put out a tweet saying we heard you.
Speaker 1: We followed the drama and Will Brinson got one of
Speaker 1: these tweets that gets retweeted like seventy five billion times,
Speaker 1: and you know, that was a nice move. But then
Speaker 1: what happens there is they went and changed went No
Speaker 1: he I think that led to the change because they
Speaker 1: saw these viral tweets said this thing is a mess,
Speaker 1: and they changed the graphics. Will, who's a friend of
Speaker 1: the show, is as savvy as they get on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and he went with the old hey, retweet or favorite
Speaker 1: if you want. Uh, the ESPN to change their ways
Speaker 1: and yeah, I thought you had a great tweet because
Speaker 1: you're like this like down in distance mark or is
Speaker 1: it on anyone else's ready? Oh? Yes, everyone else is
Speaker 1: already on top of the print an influencer. Oh till
Speaker 1: not the game on tumbler. Check out Princeton on tumbler.
Speaker 1: It does not get any better than then, and t
Speaker 1: can we go to your corner? Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1: That coveted numbers two spot behind justin Tucker. It's Will
Speaker 1: LUTs right, he did miss a kick as well today
Speaker 1: at that I don't put him on that that that
Speaker 1: referee time situation forced them into a field goal. They
Speaker 1: should not have the league apologize for that three kicks.
Speaker 1: Ross has got to show me more beyond one year.
Speaker 1: Roses is number six. Who's there with Tucker and let's
Speaker 1: put me on the spot there, Chris, let me think
Speaker 1: about that. Get back to maybe all right, maybe hit
Speaker 1: another six yarder for the extra get another L in
Speaker 1: your name. I think that's a that's a red flag.
Speaker 1: Let's well with one. A lot of misspellings. Game. First thing,
Speaker 1: go with the four car under center, I formations, fins,
Speaker 1: hands off, Jacobs over the right site, digging, turning. He's
Speaker 1: in for the touchdown. I don't know how we burrowed.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he shot marine, but somehow he
Speaker 1: stakes into the end zone. That's a touchdown run of four.
Speaker 1: The Raiders extend their leader. I'm a fourth quarter over
Speaker 1: Denver browed Kevin Harlan Westwood one. He's so good. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a four yard touchdown run and he makes it
Speaker 1: sound like it was the the greatest game that was
Speaker 1: ever played. What was that playing with the Giants and
Speaker 1: was it packersts It does get too quickly at this
Speaker 1: point we should They had seven turnovers in the first half,
Speaker 1: five lost bumbles in the greatest sloppy game ever played.
Speaker 1: I see you called Giants calmed down anyway. Derek Carr
Speaker 1: threw a touchdown pass on the opening drive of the season.
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs ran for two scores. The Raiders with the
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown fiasco swirling around them, humble the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: sixteen on Monday night in Oakland, the final Monday night
Speaker 1: football game in Oakland before the team moves to Vegas.
Speaker 1: And it is such a crime, Um and Greg, this
Speaker 1: was This is a in terms of six teen, as
Speaker 1: big a beat down as you can get. I just
Speaker 1: thought the Raiders had their way with Denver and it
Speaker 1: was that way from the jump. And all the things
Speaker 1: you thought would happen, uh, namely that the Broncos defense
Speaker 1: would give the Raiders fits, none of that came to
Speaker 1: fruition and instead the Raiders just kind of went up
Speaker 1: and down the field. At May the the Broncos had
Speaker 1: a Ghoston. Longtime listeners of the podcast will remember we
Speaker 1: named a zero sack, zero QB hit game from an
Speaker 1: entire team as a Ghoston maybe a lot we should
Speaker 1: call it now, but you know, couched on the team
Speaker 1: that you were breaking news. Patriots are training wide receiver
Speaker 1: to Marius Thomas to the New York Jets for six
Speaker 1: round a pen that doesn't pass the smell test. What
Speaker 1: it is? I will say this, it is news. I
Speaker 1: mean you have broken it, so it is now breaking news.
Speaker 1: So we normally we would wait till the end of
Speaker 1: the conversation. We just started since ultimately no one's gonna
Speaker 1: listen to it for three hours, just talking like logistics.
Speaker 1: But it was the Jets and Pats involved. It's kind
Speaker 1: of fun and sexy. Yeah, we get getting your Mark
Speaker 1: said good to know I what I you did not
Speaker 1: in your I am client to us suggests that it
Speaker 1: was breaking news. You gave us the update that this
Speaker 1: had happened, which I very much appreciate. I said, good
Speaker 1: and I dash dash at Dan Hansas for you to
Speaker 1: pick up at another time. Erico did it a very
Speaker 1: capable job of breaking the non breaking news. Anyway, to
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas, who was the odd man out there. Now
Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown is in town, goes to the Jets,
Speaker 1: so I guess are looking for depth. There's someone's hurt
Speaker 1: that we don't know about yet. I don't know that
Speaker 1: he could just I mean, it's a sixth round pick,
Speaker 1: like one year after Adam Gates gets fired. So it's
Speaker 1: not a huge feeling pretty good about yourself. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it is rattling, rattling cages, rattling cages.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to Monday Night football. Uh. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Raiders Broncos. No answer for this was just John
Speaker 1: Gruden's ideal game. He's all about completions, short completions, getting
Speaker 1: rid of the ball, being decisive. Derek Carr had one
Speaker 1: of his best games in years in Gruden like, this
Speaker 1: is exactly what God wants to do, ball control with passing,
Speaker 1: and they're You're right. They didn't really have much of
Speaker 1: an answer for it. This Raiders team, I really do
Speaker 1: believe is different than a year ago, even without Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: I just think they've upgraded their talent to a a
Speaker 1: normal level where they that was not the case a
Speaker 1: year ago. And I think you saw Mike my X
Speaker 1: draft class be a factor, and I just think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be a competitive team this year Font's perfect, like
Speaker 1: a lot of their pickups had a big impact in
Speaker 1: this game. I thought it was telling the way that
Speaker 1: they from the very beginning used Josh Jacobs, who we
Speaker 1: didn't really see on Hard Knocks that much and at all. Right,
Speaker 1: so he twenty three carries. The rest of the team
Speaker 1: outside of car had three, DeAndre Washington and Jalm Richard,
Speaker 1: So that is, you know, if you picked him up
Speaker 1: on Fantasy, good for you. I forget all that the numbers,
Speaker 1: And I thought, Derek Carr, who gets we we give
Speaker 1: him lots of compliments on this show, but I don't
Speaker 1: think that he's accepted as a premier quarterback by most.
Speaker 1: He had one of those games. And they mentioned a
Speaker 1: rich Gannon game that happened in the early two thousands
Speaker 1: of the year they went to the Super Bowl, where
Speaker 1: Brian Greasy mentioned it because he was the Broncos quarterback.
Speaker 1: I randomly was at that game when I lived in Denver,
Speaker 1: and what occurred in that game with rich Gannon was
Speaker 1: that I believe he broke the consecutive completions record. I
Speaker 1: had a few in me along with my cohorts, but
Speaker 1: it was like twenty one straight passes. So is that
Speaker 1: kind of Raiders night because it had an old school feel.
Speaker 1: And I feel for the Broncos fans because you walk
Speaker 1: into a game like at and it's one of those
Speaker 1: games where the entire and Dan I think you dealt
Speaker 1: with this on Brown's Jets last year in primetime, almost
Speaker 1: anyone that didn't have a super tight Denver rooting interest
Speaker 1: kind of fell in line and wanted the Raiders to
Speaker 1: sweep Denver up in this game and just drop him
Speaker 1: with a hammer. And I enjoyed watching it. I've never
Speaker 1: really been been a Raiders guy, but I could found
Speaker 1: myself pulling so hard for them to win, and I
Speaker 1: loved the game. My first note on this game was,
Speaker 1: Raiders are flying around the field like the two thousand
Speaker 1: thirteen Seahawks. Uh, definitely playing with more energy than a
Speaker 1: normal game. How long does this last? And the last
Speaker 1: the whole game? They they brought it the whole game.
Speaker 1: The crowd brought it the whole game. This was exceptionally
Speaker 1: well coached. Jimmy g was the only quarterback to get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball faster on average than Derek Carr
Speaker 1: did in Week one. Their offensive line was superb and
Speaker 1: I've been killing that offensive line. They shoved it down
Speaker 1: my throat. They're playing without their two starting guards and
Speaker 1: still shut out that Denver front seven. I mean, what
Speaker 1: else do you need to know than the drive? In
Speaker 1: the second order, Oakland takes over at the five. I
Speaker 1: believe they get two false start penalties or two penalties
Speaker 1: takes them back to the one and a half or
Speaker 1: two yard line, and then they just march straight down
Speaker 1: the field for a touchdown. And yes, kudos to the
Speaker 1: game plan. Get the ball out of Car's hands quickly
Speaker 1: to to you know, negate the pad or neutralize the
Speaker 1: past rush with Von Miller and Bradley Chubb. But if
Speaker 1: I'm John Elway and they showed l I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys caught the final minutes of the game
Speaker 1: camera right in Elway's face on the sideline and then
Speaker 1: he did not like it on him. But if I'm lay,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here scratching my head and I'm thinking I
Speaker 1: can't get anything right. I got Joe Flacco, or get
Speaker 1: to him in a second, who's not able to lift
Speaker 1: the offense. I thought he would be the guy for me,
Speaker 1: and then this defense. I bring in Faggio to be
Speaker 1: the missing piece to take this defense to the next level,
Speaker 1: and they can't beat up on the Raiders. I'd be
Speaker 1: very concerned if I'm a Broncos fan. It's just one game.
Speaker 1: The only thing that makes people out to be bigger fools,
Speaker 1: uh than Week one is week too. So we'll see
Speaker 1: how they look next week. But this was not a
Speaker 1: promising in Fngio now has to go play the Bears
Speaker 1: defense next week, which is an interesting time frame there.
Speaker 1: And one little tiny note on Fongio and that I'm
Speaker 1: done with this, Like the look I get. The coaches
Speaker 1: have their own um style and they want to wear
Speaker 1: what they want to wear, and Fongio wants to be
Speaker 1: flexible and comfortable and have you know, free reign of
Speaker 1: body motion during the game. But the sweatshirt with this
Speaker 1: gigantic sort of um Batman and Robin esque, you tell
Speaker 1: utility belt. I don't know what's in all the little
Speaker 1: pockets taste back to the early nineties. Andy Reid is
Speaker 1: employed that at times, but it's it's not We need
Speaker 1: to rethink from the ground up the overall aesthetic that
Speaker 1: that if you if you're gonna be winning, no one
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna embrace it. If you're gonna lose games, you
Speaker 1: need to be looking sharp. Well you know what this
Speaker 1: is though, we just talked about in a recent show
Speaker 1: head coaches looking hotter than they're getting to the gym.
Speaker 1: They're doing the facial hair, they have jawlines. Now, Uh,
Speaker 1: they care what they look like on the sidelines. Faggio
Speaker 1: is a throwback. I mean, he's a first year head
Speaker 1: coach in the sixties, so he's a bit of a
Speaker 1: throwback to a guy. It's like, I just want to
Speaker 1: I'm all, I'm built for comfort, not style. I want
Speaker 1: to win football games. It didn't work out on my
Speaker 1: day night clothing. I'm not talking. I'm not you're saying,
Speaker 1: you're you. I'm not asking. I'm not asking him to
Speaker 1: go exercise necessarily. But but we can do more. And
Speaker 1: we've learned even in this room that if we up
Speaker 1: our fashion game, things can change. Not all of us
Speaker 1: know that, some of us I believe that fair. It's
Speaker 1: fair to question Vic Fongio calling defensive plays from the
Speaker 1: sideline when he's never done that in his entire career,
Speaker 1: and at the vantage point in which he was calling
Speaker 1: plays before, I think probably was an assist to him.
Speaker 1: I think it's also fair to question why almost no
Speaker 1: head coaches in NFL history have called defensive plays from
Speaker 1: the sideline, because it's impossible to actually run your team
Speaker 1: and worry about offense. He's saying, I'm just passing offense
Speaker 1: off to old Skangs. Well, Skanking says doesn't have many
Speaker 1: pelts on the wall either. He can he can, he
Speaker 1: can call whatever he wants. I just think in general
Speaker 1: that's problematic because what made fan Joe great, you're taking
Speaker 1: that away and you can't really manage the whole team.
Speaker 1: I actually didn't think the Broncos defense was that bad.
Speaker 1: This was well, they were invisible. They couldn't make it.
Speaker 1: I hear you, turnovers, no hits. Here's how many possessions
Speaker 1: the Raiders had. They had seven. The Broncos had eight,
Speaker 1: and they either kicked a field goal or missed one
Speaker 1: on six of them. Like they just didn't have the
Speaker 1: ball that much. They moved the ball in the second half.
Speaker 1: They think they look fine in the second half. They
Speaker 1: kind of woke up from the preseason. You gotta be
Speaker 1: better in the red zone. It was boring to watch,
Speaker 1: but the difference between Flacco and car to me was
Speaker 1: really big. Flacco in the first game in a new
Speaker 1: system in Car. Now in the second year, you could
Speaker 1: just see how much calmer and how quicker he was processed.
Speaker 1: I mean, find me a number lower than zero to
Speaker 1: describe Joe Flacco's Q rating during that game. I mean,
Speaker 1: whenever he came on the fields, when I go, if
Speaker 1: I have are things I need to go do, that's
Speaker 1: when I go take care of Yeah, you you tweeted, well,
Speaker 1: let's be ready for state of Flacco. Yeah, let's cue
Speaker 1: up West for state of flac. Oh. Yeah, this was
Speaker 1: a candidate for the team of West l here. Well,
Speaker 1: it was uninspiring was the word I would use. And
Speaker 1: if he plays like that all year, I don't care
Speaker 1: about the one oh five passer rating. Dave Shawn Hamilton's
Speaker 1: dropping an easy touchdown, his right tackle goes down, and
Speaker 1: then it was at the very next play that the
Speaker 1: stubstitute gives up a third down sack. So a lot
Speaker 1: of things going against him, But uninspiring is the word
Speaker 1: I would use. He held the ball too long in
Speaker 1: the red zone. Uh, some of those sacks were his
Speaker 1: own fault. Um. I thought that it was uninspiring. And
Speaker 1: if he plays like that, all year, Lay and I
Speaker 1: are both taking big els, especially since Elway they put
Speaker 1: this big message on the board before the game. Lay quote,
Speaker 1: our season rests on the shoulders of Joe Flack. I mean,
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is the Peyton Manning statue in the pocket,
Speaker 1: the not at the actual good News West if the sheriff,
Speaker 1: if Joe Flacco does flap flop, only one of you
Speaker 1: probably gets fired. So well, we'll see we should else.
Speaker 1: Why do you throw them? Probably in there, my you
Speaker 1: never know, take on wrong. It could go very wrong.
Speaker 1: You never know what any like figure we need to
Speaker 1: talk to you about. Here's state of Flacco right now.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'm only gonna like watching this
Speaker 1: team during home games, alright. Not a good road quarterback,
Speaker 1: not a good thing. I don't think the Broncos have
Speaker 1: played well on the road period in the last few years,
Speaker 1: and I always fall for them in home games, and
Speaker 1: that's my fault. All right. There you go those recap
Speaker 1: the final Week one games. Let's now do some news.
Speaker 1: Baker just literally just says, want one yard in row.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna banging on you because you're big. I
Speaker 1: don't know that's funny to me. I just think it's funny.
Speaker 1: In fact, I wouldn't hear it again. We Bregy Binker
Speaker 1: just literally just says, run of one yard in row.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna banging on you because you're big. I
Speaker 1: think he's talking about David N. Choke who, but he
Speaker 1: could be talking about a variety of things, so he
Speaker 1: is potentially talking about the tight end. Um. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to the news. Starting with Yes, the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: who plays Nick Foles on injured reserve? He he can
Speaker 1: still come back, but even that is uncertain at this point.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville moves him uh to I R with that broken
Speaker 1: left collar bone he suffered in the first quarter of
Speaker 1: Sunday's lost to the Chiefs. As we know, the only
Speaker 1: other quarterback on the roster in Week one was Gardner Minshew,
Speaker 1: the sixth round pick, who played quite well Simson and
Speaker 1: even uh In in relief. But who knows if that's
Speaker 1: going to continue. Unlikely to continue, let's be honest, So
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs also joins the fray. The Jags announced on
Speaker 1: Monday they traded for the former Steelers back up Um,
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. In goes back to Pittsburgh's or
Speaker 1: dabs uh enters a depth chart behind Minshew. So the
Speaker 1: job is Minshew's for the time being, uh considerably, Um,
Speaker 1: you know a significant amount of time being Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm Gardner, Flint Minshew too. I am
Speaker 1: not concerned about Josh Dobbs. Let's start right there. And
Speaker 1: you know, we just got done talking about Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew twenty two of twenty five with two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And I have never in my life had a backup
Speaker 1: quarterback emerge out of the shadows where suddenly I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you guys, I'm getting tweets about Minshew saying, you
Speaker 1: guys don't understand. This dude has the it factor. He
Speaker 1: lit it up in college. He was with Mike Leach
Speaker 1: at Washington State. People that have been around him just
Speaker 1: say they love him, and they and that the entire
Speaker 1: Washington State team gathered together with Leech to find out
Speaker 1: what was going on during this game. He is one
Speaker 1: of these dudes the people like a pied piper figure
Speaker 1: get behind. He's immediately become my second favorite player in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I'm going to be drafting Jaguars games
Speaker 1: very early on. Thursday, because I like the whole energy. No,
Speaker 1: because facial hair comes and goes. It's about what's inside
Speaker 1: the soul and what I think I see in him.
Speaker 1: So let's start with there, and Josh Dobbs have a
Speaker 1: nice time sitting on the pine over under a month before.
Speaker 1: You're still picking Jaguars games as you're high on yourself.
Speaker 1: All depends on what they do with Gardner Flintmanshoo too. Uh.
Speaker 1: Doug Marone told Iron Eagle and Dan Foults the Beard
Speaker 1: and the Bird to those of you out there who
Speaker 1: still remember that, uh, that this guy can sling it.
Speaker 1: There's no question about his arm strength. I think Fault
Speaker 1: gave him a lot of credit for reading the blitz
Speaker 1: is in that game. That's promising, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting he was going to transfer to be a
Speaker 1: backup at Alabama because he wanted to be a graduate
Speaker 1: assistant under Nick Saban. This guy's thinking ahead so that
Speaker 1: he's that sort of quarterback that one. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's a coach on the field, which usually those guys
Speaker 1: end up being coaches. Well you know, by the way,
Speaker 1: ena being Kevin O'Connell or Greg mel fitthan Heisman Trophy
Speaker 1: voting and the recipient if the Johnny United Scholden Arm Award,
Speaker 1: which is given to older college players i e. Seniors. No,
Speaker 1: but those guys usually don't come in and have the
Speaker 1: first you know week in the NFL performance that he
Speaker 1: that that performance should absolutely grab our attention and want
Speaker 1: to see Foles is getting fuls. Wow. Henry Hodgson, the
Speaker 1: vice president of International here at NFL Media, UH sent
Speaker 1: me a tweet from a gentleman named Chris Kaufman. He
Speaker 1: co hosted a Dolphins podcast and Uh, Kaufman throughout the question,
Speaker 1: who does Gardner Minshew look like to you? And there's
Speaker 1: a couple of good answers here. Um, he looks like
Speaker 1: the mechanic that comes to the waiting room shaking his
Speaker 1: head saying you need your engine to be completely rebuilt.
Speaker 1: He looks like the dude that abandoned your sister after
Speaker 1: he knocked her up, but he's back now, has a
Speaker 1: great job with a cable company and really wants to
Speaker 1: make things right. Uh. He looks like the tag along
Speaker 1: brother of your best high school but after he got
Speaker 1: out of community college. He does have that every man
Speaker 1: look that you can get behind. And I think for
Speaker 1: better worse, he sneaks up on you. They do expect
Speaker 1: falls back. This case, he's snuck up on the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Maron believes they'll be back, maybe as early as week eleven.
Speaker 1: That's that's the first week he's that's a long time. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: let's see where Doug Moron is by week eleven. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I wish him well, but that's what that is.
Speaker 1: You and miniche Meta are both on the same corner. No,
Speaker 1: I've actually spoken. Doug Maron is one of the few
Speaker 1: coaches that when I've approached him at a league event,
Speaker 1: was actually nice to me versus trying to swap me
Speaker 1: away like an insect fly into the air. He's three
Speaker 1: times the size of you. He is a massive human.
Speaker 1: Beginning of the i R bad news for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: the fetes of tackle Malik Jackson expected to be a
Speaker 1: placed on injured reserve after suffering a significant foot injury.
Speaker 1: That's how the team termed it, and Sunday's opener against
Speaker 1: the Redskins. UH decordinator Philly Jim Schwartz said, Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: probably be without him for a while. Malik is an
Speaker 1: important part of what we do and we will certainly
Speaker 1: miss him, so next man up. In all that, according
Speaker 1: to NFL Network, Jackson has Liz Frank's surge coming up
Speaker 1: next week and it is an injury that should wipe
Speaker 1: out his entire season. Big setback was yeah, it is,
Speaker 1: and because he's a good player, but not every team
Speaker 1: has a Timmy Journ again sitting on the bench waiting
Speaker 1: to jump right into the starting line. App and Jarnakin
Speaker 1: had a big sack that would have knocked the Redskins
Speaker 1: out of field goal range if not for a Derek
Speaker 1: Barnett penalty in that game last week. They're a little
Speaker 1: thinner though, I think on the defensive line in general
Speaker 1: than they have been the last couple of years. There,
Speaker 1: I would say that's definitely true at defensive end, and
Speaker 1: now because of this injury, that's true at defense. That
Speaker 1: game got a lot of attention because of the way
Speaker 1: the Redskins jumped out early when no one expected it.
Speaker 1: But if you go look at what happened when the
Speaker 1: Eagles kind of got out of their own way, three
Speaker 1: of their four drives in the second half went for
Speaker 1: one zero in four yards. They totally shut the Redskins down. Um. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: at the dog Pound Cleveland Brown star O'Dell Beckham Jr.
Speaker 1: Said he continued he plans to continue wearing the one
Speaker 1: ninety thousand Richard Millie hundred ninety dollar Richard mill Millie.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I read it was a three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars has been reappraised sin then time piece,
Speaker 1: so watch that the league reached out to him about
Speaker 1: and said, hey, bro, I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: wear a watch on the field. He says, I want
Speaker 1: to keep wearing it. I will keep wearing it, and
Speaker 1: he added Tuesday that the NFL is singling him out.
Speaker 1: Your girl, your woman, excuse me. Mark Mary kay Cabot
Speaker 1: reported that Beckham said, today if Tom Brady was wearing
Speaker 1: this watch, nobody would say anything. Tom Brady wouldn't be
Speaker 1: wearing on h LL watch, keep your focus on the field,
Speaker 1: and market has nothing to do with the Browns. This
Speaker 1: guy's been driving me crazy for years, and this is
Speaker 1: the type of stuff that drives me crazy. This feels
Speaker 1: like it's pulled from a time machine, from a giant's
Speaker 1: game from because he has been totally quiet and nothing
Speaker 1: but a model citizen and not saying this makes you
Speaker 1: not a bad citizen. But it's but we don't need
Speaker 1: why does anyone needs? This is the tight rope that
Speaker 1: being someone that comments on professional football walks when a
Speaker 1: story like this comes out, and especially with Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: getting paid. If you if you criticize, if you criticize
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham or a player for doing something this, you're you.
Speaker 1: You are presented as someone from the establishments, someone who
Speaker 1: doesn't get youth culture. But no, it's not that. It's
Speaker 1: just like, this is stupid and you just got your
Speaker 1: ass kicked in week one and you don't need to
Speaker 1: make a story about yourself and certainly don't need to
Speaker 1: be bringing up Tom Brady's name and saying that you
Speaker 1: are somehow being singled out. It's just unnecessary. It's not
Speaker 1: the end of the world. No, it doesn't matter in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things. But this is the type
Speaker 1: of stuff with Beckham that comes with the package, and
Speaker 1: it's not always great. Am I The only one that
Speaker 1: when I read this was like if I even owned
Speaker 1: a watch, which I don't like, and it was that expensive.
Speaker 1: Is the first thing I don't go do being an
Speaker 1: athletic event where it's like getting scuffed by helmets and
Speaker 1: like getting you know, smashed into dirt and grass, Like
Speaker 1: I don't need better be getting paid for it because
Speaker 1: they are getting an exceptional amount of free advertising. I mean,
Speaker 1: I assume he's getting paid for the would it would
Speaker 1: only be I would only wear it if you could
Speaker 1: knew you could get another free one. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: after Cameron Wake's helmet cracks it or whatever could happen.
Speaker 1: Does that we're advertising it? How is it for? What
Speaker 1: worth it? If the goal here is to get a
Speaker 1: free watch? Is it worth just having to answer questions
Speaker 1: from the media for a week straight straight? But I
Speaker 1: just don't understand other watches. I didn't know there was
Speaker 1: rules against wearing Who was Richard Millie? Why did you
Speaker 1: say have to answer questions from the media. He's in
Speaker 1: the spotlight, he's getting attention. Why would you wear I
Speaker 1: don't know why you'd wear I don't just the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's I don't have time for. Antonio Brown came around,
Speaker 1: came along at this this new souped up Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: in the last year or so, and blew Odell Beckham away.
Speaker 1: I just worried about ob Obi j getting a little
Speaker 1: like you know, jealous and be like, no, I'll show
Speaker 1: you what it means to be a petulant wide I
Speaker 1: mean watch petulants. He's just being trying to be stylish. There.
Speaker 1: That's fair. That after me is the establishment. It's funny
Speaker 1: because it's fun Hey, if you've got to talk about it,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, there is everything, everything is black
Speaker 1: and white with this stuff. I don't think it's black
Speaker 1: and white. I I do think that rich guys, and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is one of them. The first thing they
Speaker 1: do when they go to the meeting, like the Rich
Speaker 1: Guy Club meeting, They're like, let's get super into watches.
Speaker 1: Let's care about the differences between them, let's know everything
Speaker 1: about watch culture, and let's just dive in. Where whereas
Speaker 1: for twenty five years of our life we didn't care
Speaker 1: about watching the other object. I know this from traveling
Speaker 1: overseas to an area in Rome or somewhere Italy where
Speaker 1: people were shopping NFL players men's um handbags that costs
Speaker 1: like five dollars and thinking that we could help pay
Speaker 1: for it on our NFL stipend. No, I can't even
Speaker 1: buy ice cream cone in Italy for how much it cost?
Speaker 1: All right, speaking of Antonio Brown, Bill Belichick. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go, boys, everybody, let's do this right. Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick ac spoke on Antonio Brown. He was asked about
Speaker 1: it during a conference call um this week, and everyone's saying, well,
Speaker 1: what this this Brown? This guy destroys locker rooms. He he,
Speaker 1: He is petulant. He's a guy that you can't trust.
Speaker 1: And what do you think about that? Bill, That's the
Speaker 1: guy you bring into your locker room. That the same
Speaker 1: thing you said about Randy Moss when we got brought
Speaker 1: him in. So when asked if outside issues affect the
Speaker 1: team's ability to win, there's no way for me to
Speaker 1: know what's inside every person's mind. That's up to each
Speaker 1: of us individually, but collectively we try to get ourselves
Speaker 1: in the best physical, mental, and emotional state to go
Speaker 1: out there and play as well as we can once
Speaker 1: a week and so on and so forth. Um. I
Speaker 1: do have we talked about a little bit on on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Might have gotten lost in the everything else, but I
Speaker 1: do have this this horrible, deep, um dark feeling within
Speaker 1: my soul that this is gonna work out exquisitely to
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. At first, I was all in on
Speaker 1: the idea of the Trojan horse and that Brown was
Speaker 1: gonna come in and do Brown things and destroy the
Speaker 1: Patriots from within. No, he is going to be a
Speaker 1: monster on the team that's going to win many, many,
Speaker 1: many games. I I have no idea what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: because it's football. What do you think and how could you?
Speaker 1: What do you think the most likely uh outcome is here,
Speaker 1: given the past history of this organization, which by the way,
Speaker 1: is a testament to them, the most likely outcome is
Speaker 1: this works out, Yeah, for a year and then that's
Speaker 1: probably it. Whereas in Randy Moss, people forget kind of
Speaker 1: wore out his welcome and was a pain in the
Speaker 1: neck after three or four years, three years it wasn't
Speaker 1: even the most rebellious wide receiver on his own team.
Speaker 1: Jerry Porter was. But you know, Jerry Port, when we're
Speaker 1: Belichick and we're gonna paint all the media as one
Speaker 1: entity as if we're all lem Pascarelli answering for this
Speaker 1: for for what it's worth. This was after this was
Speaker 1: like the third follow up question, and in his answer
Speaker 1: was the least surprising thing ever. And I believe it
Speaker 1: to be true that Okay, there is a calculus. I'm
Speaker 1: only gonna take on so many of these guys. But
Speaker 1: he said ultimately late he's not worried about what happened
Speaker 1: in other locker rooms. That he's worried about if if
Speaker 1: someone works hard and if someone has a good you
Speaker 1: know added you know, works hard at their craft. That
Speaker 1: was Randy Moss's problem. Randy Most admitted to trying so
Speaker 1: little that he got himself out of the Raiders. He
Speaker 1: also said, I would like to you know back then
Speaker 1: he was. He basically admitted, I'm trying to get out
Speaker 1: of there, and he kind of just put it in
Speaker 1: a half effort for half a season and eventually they listen.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're worried about effort when it comes
Speaker 1: to Brown. I think they're just confident that they have
Speaker 1: the structure that it'll be fine, and if it's not,
Speaker 1: that they can just cut them. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I mean, why shouldn't Belichick have complete confidence that that
Speaker 1: is the case, because it's like they are the one
Speaker 1: team that has proven they can get players accountable and
Speaker 1: wired them a certain way. And in West I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I also don't care what Belichick thinks about the
Speaker 1: media because the way the Patriots are treated in certain ways,
Speaker 1: they are treated differently. That Belichick could shrug off the
Speaker 1: entire media as one balloons sing king over the sea,
Speaker 1: and I just don't have a big problem with it.
Speaker 1: I don't think his job is to give a crap
Speaker 1: about the media at all. Can I just point out
Speaker 1: that Belichick is lying through his teeth about what he
Speaker 1: says he doesn't care about what happens in other locker rooms.
Speaker 1: That is true only if you are in all pro
Speaker 1: caliber talent, then he doesn't care what happens in other
Speaker 1: locker rooms. But for all the other player he scouts
Speaker 1: and does his due diligence on, he does care about
Speaker 1: what happens. And of course I mean he. I think
Speaker 1: he learned this lesson early on with Lawrence Taylor, who
Speaker 1: maybe shaped his career more than anyone. If there was
Speaker 1: a guy who broke more team rules and norms of
Speaker 1: what you would expect your player to do in terms
Speaker 1: of professionalism, it was Lawrence Taylor. And you know what,
Speaker 1: they bent over backwards to basically allow his drug abuse
Speaker 1: try to work with him, um because they believed in
Speaker 1: him as a player. It was just that's just the reality.
Speaker 1: They liked it. They liked the person too. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was tricky, but Lawrence Taylor wasn't just simply the
Speaker 1: football player was the part. I mean, the idea of
Speaker 1: that you have different rules for different players, especially exceptional players,
Speaker 1: the idea that that's not the true on every team
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Phil Jackson during his time with the Bulls.
Speaker 1: I just read this the other day. Dennis Robin, who
Speaker 1: was as uncontrollable a figure as there was in the
Speaker 1: NBA in that era, certainly, um he had different rules
Speaker 1: for rodn and for different personalities, to the point where
Speaker 1: he would be fine with Dennis Robin going to Vegas
Speaker 1: and going on and all night bender U during the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals, just make sure you're back here for the game,
Speaker 1: because he thought in Dennis and Dennis Rodman's mindset that
Speaker 1: that would make him a better player. And the fear again,
Speaker 1: the fear, because that's what's the worst thing about this
Speaker 1: for me, is that the Patriots are gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Is that Belichick intrinsically understands this, and Lawrence Taylor is
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Belichick was on that staff and he'll
Speaker 1: know the right buttons to push with Antonio Brown in
Speaker 1: the way that Mike Mayock and John Gruden did not. Well.
Speaker 1: To take your comparison one step further, the only reason
Speaker 1: that Phil Jackson Dennis Robin dynamic worked was because Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan was there to instill order and keep keep a
Speaker 1: tight lid on Dennis Robmin just like Tom Brady is
Speaker 1: there in New England. Sure An Brown and taken selfies together.
Speaker 1: And I think the time aspect is crucial because I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are are fine managing with these guys
Speaker 1: who are a little different than the rest of the
Speaker 1: team for a shorter amount of time, and then they
Speaker 1: increasingly think, okay, that's the expiration date. They We did
Speaker 1: find out he has a second year on his contract,
Speaker 1: which is up to New England if they want to
Speaker 1: have the option. But even a guy like Chandler Jones,
Speaker 1: who was the last guy um who got in any
Speaker 1: real you know, like had any issues with teammates or anything,
Speaker 1: there was sort of an expiration date with him because
Speaker 1: he marched to the to the beat of his own drummer.
Speaker 1: And and then they get rid of you. All right,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news, all right, Before we
Speaker 1: turn all our energy toward week two and beyond. Let's
Speaker 1: uh take one look, one more look back at week
Speaker 1: one with a little by hold cell or is it
Speaker 1: by cell hold? I think it's by cell hole, the
Speaker 1: hold being the third typically the third option, I would
Speaker 1: imagine all the middle. It's like the porridge in the middle.
Speaker 1: I mean, but am I wrong? I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's exactly understand Well, we've renamed it to something else. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, wind Loser draw after week one, buy cell hold?
Speaker 1: Remember that game show? Yes? Yes, well I mean not.
Speaker 1: Isn't it functionally in our life? Day after dating? I
Speaker 1: do remember? Was it was it? Like? Remember that was
Speaker 1: like when you had the home version. Got a couple
Speaker 1: of b listers in there? All right, Bert Reynolds pre
Speaker 1: Boogie Nights might have popped up in a wind Loser draw.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, pre Boogie Nights. Here we go post
Speaker 1: smoking the bandit pre Boogie Nights, very dark period for Bert.
Speaker 1: It's big window there. All right, Here we go by
Speaker 1: by cell hold. Greg will start with you. I'll throw
Speaker 1: a bunch out. Um. We talked this out before the show,
Speaker 1: So I'll just tee you guys up and then you
Speaker 1: let me know by cell Hold will start with Greg
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Concern for Jimmy Garoppolo after a week one performance.
Speaker 1: I'm buying concern if that's what I am concerned until
Speaker 1: proven otherwise. And it's the first game and he's coming
Speaker 1: back from a tour and a c L. It was
Speaker 1: telling to me they I mean they ran more runs
Speaker 1: then passes in that game. There's an ugly pick six.
Speaker 1: He missed a lot. I would say I think he
Speaker 1: probably I would say he had probably one of the
Speaker 1: four or five I guess. I haven't watched every game,
Speaker 1: but he was probably one of the worst performances by
Speaker 1: a quarterback last week. And the bigger issue is, to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, some guys they have good games, bad games,
Speaker 1: But you see what you used to see from Jimmy G.
Speaker 1: Or you know you certainly saw from Baker Mayfield. Still
Speaker 1: five incredible throws in that game, including in the second half.
Speaker 1: I just had I haven't seen those throws from Jimmy
Speaker 1: G in a while, and I want you and you
Speaker 1: definitely didn't see any of them on Sunday against Tampa.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to get hit. Notice this in the
Speaker 1: preseason noticed this in the game against the Buccaneers, where
Speaker 1: he's turning his back after he throws the pass immediately
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to get hit because he doesn't trust
Speaker 1: his knee. I imagine um, and I think that throughout
Speaker 1: his career in the limited sample size we have, he's
Speaker 1: an above average quarterback between the twenties and a blow
Speaker 1: average quarterback in the red zone. And he's got to
Speaker 1: fix his red zone issues. I mean, he's also twenty seven,
Speaker 1: about to turn twenty eight, so there's only so many
Speaker 1: more years toixed. This is a very important year for
Speaker 1: James Garoppolo alright, West Cowboys as a dominant offensive force.
Speaker 1: By cell Hold, I am buying this. They are drastically different.
Speaker 1: The Texans are the only team that saw a bigger
Speaker 1: increase than the roughly increase of offensive plays with shifts
Speaker 1: and motion that kell him Moore uh used in Week
Speaker 1: one compared to what Scott Linahan did last week. They
Speaker 1: transformed their aw fence. They did not go through the run,
Speaker 1: they went through the pass. They were extremely pass heavy
Speaker 1: early on. There were huge tracks of land like watching
Speaker 1: a Chiefs game. And it wasn't just because it was
Speaker 1: a Giants defense is because the play caller, and because
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of weapons. Randall Cobb looks reborn,
Speaker 1: throwing people around, running well after the catch. Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: is in line for a breakout year. They love Blake Jarwin.
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman was saying that they think he might be
Speaker 1: the most athletic guy on their offense. They have a
Speaker 1: lot of weapons on this team, and I even think
Speaker 1: a guy like Devin Smith on their bench is being
Speaker 1: under you. It informs why there was less panic around
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott's situation because it's distinctly a different approach obviously.
Speaker 1: And I look at Dak Prescott three full years at quarterback,
Speaker 1: has never missed a game, twenty three twenty two and
Speaker 1: twenty two touchdowns over three seasons. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if he hits forty. Wow. So we got the We
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys as West's Super Bowl pick, which he's
Speaker 1: loving right now. We got the Raiders back. I like
Speaker 1: it of need when the big like kind of NFL. Well,
Speaker 1: the Patriots were not part of that classic age, so
Speaker 1: maybe they need to, you know, like a big, gigantic
Speaker 1: come out of the sky. Land Dallas average twenty one
Speaker 1: point four points per game. They could jump a full
Speaker 1: seven points. There can't they wes. I think if you
Speaker 1: are it limits your offense when you insist on going
Speaker 1: to establish the run, established the run, established the run.
Speaker 1: Great website, but maybe not a great that's a philosophy.
Speaker 1: And twenty nine and and when you had the Cowboys defense,
Speaker 1: I can see the temptation to do it. But when
Speaker 1: you've got a mind like Kellen Moore. And we continue
Speaker 1: to hear Dak Prescott after he has a perfect passer
Speaker 1: rating the new opener says he's one of these geniuses
Speaker 1: out there. You can next teammate. I think that really matters.
Speaker 1: Mark Jamis Winston flipping the switch under Bruce arians by
Speaker 1: cell Hold after a woful week one. I'm selling it
Speaker 1: and it's it's I'm selling with like I'm selling low
Speaker 1: because I don't know who's buying it at this point.
Speaker 1: Because you I I get two years ago, you'd still
Speaker 1: think that something can happen and there there can be
Speaker 1: a switch to flip. I don't think there's a switch
Speaker 1: on the wall and you're in the dark searching around
Speaker 1: for it. At this point, the guy turns the ball
Speaker 1: over at anything all essentially everything but Blake Bordles levels
Speaker 1: and and he's right there and Eli Manning too, and
Speaker 1: you know he he he has not he has. He
Speaker 1: leads the league with Cam Newton over the past three
Speaker 1: or four seasons with three plus turnovers in a game,
Speaker 1: which absolutely sabotages you. And you have to at this
Speaker 1: point assume that he's going to do that three or
Speaker 1: four times a year that you're gonna lose if you
Speaker 1: hope to go ten and six. Three of those losses
Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna wind up five and eleven instead
Speaker 1: are because Jamis Winston cannot control what he's doing with
Speaker 1: the ball, and the whole idea that because Bruce arians
Speaker 1: was gonna come in and keep the yardage and the
Speaker 1: electricity of that attack up, but rain In Winston and
Speaker 1: creates smarter decisions in his mind. He goes out and
Speaker 1: throws three interceptions against the Niners, and I feel like
Speaker 1: they dropped a couple to where it could have been
Speaker 1: more than three. So I you know, one game in
Speaker 1: sell it, I'm holding I'm holding bro al right, Well,
Speaker 1: you're that's a very concerned. I just think it's a
Speaker 1: very I think it's it's too premature to write off
Speaker 1: any quarterback. Yeah, I'll hold it. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 1: come this far. It would be news if you sold.
Speaker 1: What you hit on Mark is interesting because they were
Speaker 1: a lot less exploited. It was a bad It was
Speaker 1: a terrible offensive game in general. He started the game
Speaker 1: until just missing throws. None of them look good. Any
Speaker 1: concern Mark though, that you brought up that you had
Speaker 1: to buy sell hold of the TNF the team playing
Speaker 1: on TNF when we're about to have the TNF pre Yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of pulls the plug on Tom and side
Speaker 1: make then. But then it's also an opportunity for more,
Speaker 1: you know, to skate, just to skate. Got plenty to
Speaker 1: talk about, all right, Um, now you're gonna think that
Speaker 1: this was me making the same mistake in a way
Speaker 1: doubling up. But it's not because I want to talk
Speaker 1: about it and get into in depth where we didn't
Speaker 1: really have the opportunity during the game. Recap the Raiders
Speaker 1: final season in Oakland. I'm buying man, you know I'm
Speaker 1: buying the I'm buying Derek. You know I'm buying John Gruden.
Speaker 1: I'm buying the dirt enfield. The last time we'll ever
Speaker 1: see a dirt enfield. Potentially, I'm buying the black hole,
Speaker 1: the real black hole, not the Fugaisi version that they're
Speaker 1: gonna try to foist upon us in in the desert
Speaker 1: next year. And I just think it's not a big
Speaker 1: enough story. How amazing these fans are that their team
Speaker 1: is quitting them, and they're like, and I mean this
Speaker 1: is in a positive They're like the unrequitted love. They're
Speaker 1: like a golden retriever that they just still love their Raiders.
Speaker 1: Then they love getting together with their friends and family
Speaker 1: and dressing up like maniacs and going insane for their team.
Speaker 1: Now week one, Monday Night football, the electricity is going
Speaker 1: to be a higher level. We'll see how it looks
Speaker 1: if they're you know, foreign seven and in a couple
Speaker 1: of months. But there's also I would not rule out
Speaker 1: in the final season in Oakland, based on what we
Speaker 1: saw in Week one, that the whole city is just
Speaker 1: gonna rally around this team and send them off, which
Speaker 1: is really commendable for a fan base. I kind of
Speaker 1: like Greg also during this this conversation you're having shifting
Speaker 1: into what feels like a Raiders esque outfit. But you're
Speaker 1: right and when they've they've been so deplorable for so long.
Speaker 1: It doesn't change the way that stadium is. It's an
Speaker 1: event that they go to every week. It's not like
Speaker 1: suddenly you're getting you were smirking my entire soliloquy there.
Speaker 1: What the way they dressed? Have you considered they might
Speaker 1: just be fetishists? They're great fans. It's a crime the
Speaker 1: football from Oakland. Not only all that, everything you said
Speaker 1: it is true. I guess I'm holding because I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be an interesting seven eight win type of
Speaker 1: team that stays in the make. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm buying here the fans. I'm buying all that. Let
Speaker 1: me where there's some nice moments. I think it was
Speaker 1: a potential for the Raiders being a really tough team
Speaker 1: in their building, which most people would not have expected
Speaker 1: this year. And I think they could hang around. I
Speaker 1: love it. I don't think they can play with that
Speaker 1: energy all year. But they earned a hold for me
Speaker 1: in that game. That was a very impassive West. That's
Speaker 1: saying something, yes, I would I would have said chance
Speaker 1: for a sale before that game was there's a sliding
Speaker 1: door scenario where they lost that game for nothing. And
Speaker 1: I know they have the great I know they have
Speaker 1: the great history, but they've been worse than they've been
Speaker 1: as bad as the Browns or any franchise in the
Speaker 1: NFL the last two decades. And now and now you
Speaker 1: had a move to it, which is the one which
Speaker 1: was the ace up to sleep Browns fans to two points.
Speaker 1: And I see all you mean girls on Twitter and
Speaker 1: the different snarky blogs all around. That just killed John
Speaker 1: Gruden forever, forever and ever. And I don't see any
Speaker 1: blogs throwing the guys some credit for having a hyper prepared,
Speaker 1: focused team whip up in Week one without their best
Speaker 1: player who tried to ruin the season. Let's give Gruner
Speaker 1: a little bit of credit for what they were able
Speaker 1: to do in Week one. But I hear you alright, Hayden,
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor dragging Andy out of the Dalton scale. Bye,
Speaker 1: I've got to buy I'm feeling the weak one fever
Speaker 1: where we overreact that after all these years, Andy Dalton's
Speaker 1: gonna be I got the waters going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm at least into I've been
Speaker 1: into Zach Taylor all offseason. We're trying to raise this
Speaker 1: guy's CU rating. No one knows what he looks like.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Let's here for skinny uh five nine
Speaker 1: guys being head coaches in the NFL. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe he is. He looks like it when he's next
Speaker 1: to all the players that they were. They were not
Speaker 1: the Rams offense, by the way. It wasn't all the
Speaker 1: three wide receivers. There's tight end screens, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things going on, there's vertical passes there by in
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, man, he just looks so comfortable and decisive
Speaker 1: for that one game. And I know maybe they had
Speaker 1: a schematic advantage of Seattle and never seen them before that.
Speaker 1: I'm at least if he can may John rossa thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping he can make Andy Dowton the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm buying because I you know, watch
Speaker 1: that from end to end on Sunday and they changed
Speaker 1: my feeling about them. But Greg, I not to suggest
Speaker 1: that you were projecting here a little bit. Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: is six too. Yes, that shocking, I am. Some guys
Speaker 1: look shorter than they are. Some things don't need to
Speaker 1: be said, West, but we want to hear your opinion one. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that offensive line is gonna be able
Speaker 1: to hold up for much longer, and I don't think
Speaker 1: the schemanic advantage that they had in Week one will stay.
Speaker 1: And John Ross's game was about as flukey as the
Speaker 1: receiver's game gets. How dare he was open more in
Speaker 1: that game than he was in entire career. But Thompson
Speaker 1: isn't gonna miss time a jump every time they have
Speaker 1: a sixty five yard bu But you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: a flee flicker wheel route every week for a long touch.
Speaker 1: His His speed, though, is game breaking speed, and he
Speaker 1: was open a lot. He dropped two passes, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, game breaking speed. The last two years too,
Speaker 1: no more green, and that offense didn't fall apart. It
Speaker 1: was impressive. I'm just saying I'm selling them as that's
Speaker 1: gonna be repeatables. Sammy Watkins long awaited breakout year by
Speaker 1: cell hold after a monster Week one, I'm buying that
Speaker 1: was as quick uh as he's looked in traffic and
Speaker 1: explosive after the catch as I've ever seen him since
Speaker 1: coming out of Clemson, when he was hyped as you know,
Speaker 1: the next great wide receiver. I think that probably for
Speaker 1: the past year and a half, he's had the most
Speaker 1: unfair advantage of any wide receiver in the NFL, playing
Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, and Patrick Mahomes. And he
Speaker 1: he admitted that after the game that look, I was
Speaker 1: open for those two long plays because of Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: and then after Hill's injury, he was the chain moving
Speaker 1: number one receiver who who was still getting open and
Speaker 1: making plays after that. I think he's a transformed guy.
Speaker 1: He talked about finding balance in his life. They're traveling
Speaker 1: all over the world this offseason. He seems like a
Speaker 1: guy who came to camp ready for a huge year,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna have it. I mean, spent
Speaker 1: his year catching footballs from you know, jabronies in Buffalo
Speaker 1: to start his career. And at this point, I'll buy
Speaker 1: anything in Kansas City's offense. You could throw almost any
Speaker 1: scenario at me, I'll buy it. I'm selling. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been on two of the total Greg Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. He's been on two of the great the
Speaker 1: best offenses in football the last two years, and he
Speaker 1: didn't gain more than six hundred yards in either season.
Speaker 1: So I've just seen him have these monster games here
Speaker 1: and there throughout his career. I want to see it more.
Speaker 1: Has two already. Uh, who's turn? Let sir, sure you
Speaker 1: could skip me if you want, it's your turn. That's
Speaker 1: what I thought. Mark Adam Gaze's quote unquote electric as
Speaker 1: Sam Donald put it a couple of weeks ago, Jets
Speaker 1: offense by sell Hold, I'm certainly not selling because they
Speaker 1: played a defense last week that I think we'll go
Speaker 1: down once again as one of the best in the league.
Speaker 1: And it's week one and you know, Donald just maybe
Speaker 1: someone that could have used out that you want to
Speaker 1: do this and throw him into the fire a couple
Speaker 1: more quarters in the preseason to get a little more
Speaker 1: on track. I think Gaze and I could be completely
Speaker 1: wrong about this is maybe one of these guys that
Speaker 1: keeps getting chances sort of the way Belichick did over
Speaker 1: and over by people because someone somewhere believes in him.
Speaker 1: He's almost like um, like one of these old painters
Speaker 1: that was a mad genius that had a patron, some
Speaker 1: sort of rich patron that would backed them and basically
Speaker 1: give them. You know, there's uh. There was a Flemish painter,
Speaker 1: Peter Peter Paul Rubens who had the Duke of Mantua
Speaker 1: that just paid him to do paintings forever and we
Speaker 1: never would know he was that this one guy didn't believe.
Speaker 1: And I think that maybe the Jets, you know, the
Speaker 1: Johnson family, saw something in Gaze that others don't and
Speaker 1: maybe it goes totally south. But I'm not out on Gaze.
Speaker 1: I'm still buying on Gaze. I'm totally buying on Donald
Speaker 1: because the guy is like twenty three years old. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's there are other people coming into twenty two. There's
Speaker 1: other people coming into the lead. He get twenty four
Speaker 1: and not starting until twenty five or twenty six, and
Speaker 1: we've seen too much from Donald to like at this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Donald some tough love here. I was
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it on Thursday, but might as well
Speaker 1: do it here. Um. There were two times in his
Speaker 1: career so far where um, he really had a chance
Speaker 1: to play some hero ball. The first one was mentioned
Speaker 1: that Browns game in Week three last year where they
Speaker 1: got the ball back and the sky was falling, but
Speaker 1: it was too soon. He was he was a baby.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Bates was his offensive coordinator. Todd Bowls is prominently involved,
Speaker 1: gave momulligan on that and they weren't able to move
Speaker 1: the ball down field. They got the ball back down
Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen, uh with three minutes to play in their building,
Speaker 1: and they had no kicker, and they went and got
Speaker 1: fighting by the way today to replace Carrie of Dvick.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. But they had no kickers,
Speaker 1: so they were in a tough spot. But what I
Speaker 1: really wanted to see in that moment with some growth
Speaker 1: from Donald and for him to leave the Jets down
Speaker 1: the field and maybe steal that game back. The fact
Speaker 1: that he went two for seven and they turned it
Speaker 1: over essentially downs at the end of the game, UH
Speaker 1: was disappointing to me, and I that that annoys me.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just him. This team does need more
Speaker 1: time to gel uh. The offensive line did not play well,
Speaker 1: could not handle the Bills blitz uh and Gaze was
Speaker 1: killing the wide receivers this week in the media, h
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson was getting some strays uh, not directly, but
Speaker 1: not running the right routes and not playing at his best. UM.
Speaker 1: But I just need I'm in hold territory dropped down
Speaker 1: from a hard buy to a hole, just because I
Speaker 1: was so disappointed by the way that offense tanked um
Speaker 1: when they had a chance to put that game way
Speaker 1: or take it at the end. Well, I'm surprised that
Speaker 1: you're that you're that you're in that place with them
Speaker 1: after that game. I mean, it's Donald, That's what I
Speaker 1: just didn't think it would change at all. I thought
Speaker 1: you'd give him another week because it's to me like
Speaker 1: that final drive was a mess and it kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of the way I felt about Trabski after
Speaker 1: the opener last year against the against the Packers, where
Speaker 1: he couldn't seal the deal. But uh, well that's a concern.
Speaker 1: It is. I don't want a ceilings. I have a
Speaker 1: little not not that you're going to read the stand,
Speaker 1: but there's a little Brown's Jets Mayfield Donald summary in
Speaker 1: this week's on my reading it because I need to
Speaker 1: move on from well it's quite positive of Donald. Actually, okay,
Speaker 1: well then I'll read it. I'm not I think the
Speaker 1: game was The game was disenchanting, but like I how
Speaker 1: I could see also you being totally on fire a
Speaker 1: week from now, literally a week from now, after they
Speaker 1: beat the Browns on Monday Night football, and you'll be
Speaker 1: completely back in and acting like it's I'm I'm holding
Speaker 1: on the offense, but I'm selling on the Adam Gates
Speaker 1: press conference experience lasting long term in New York. We
Speaker 1: talked about this the second he was hiring that his
Speaker 1: the way he is behind the microphone, how frustrated he gets.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just gonna burn a lot of
Speaker 1: everything in New York energy and and I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: think he's slamming all of his players, but he's a
Speaker 1: lot more critical and just being honest about all of
Speaker 1: their mistakes without necessarily putting it all on himself. And
Speaker 1: the media eats that up, and at least some of
Speaker 1: the players are gonna eventually not like that. And it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a cauldron of of a lot that
Speaker 1: he needs to have some success early. But I do
Speaker 1: think there those tabloids have already caught fire with gas
Speaker 1: tears of happiness he's making. This isn't true. I've been saying,
Speaker 1: I love this cauldron of dude was swirling, you love it.
Speaker 1: I have been by his press conferences for a long time.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're masking your true feelings and rooting interests, analysis,
Speaker 1: and I see it all. Well, it's just greg of
Speaker 1: that certainly. Not all right, I'll throw out one more.
Speaker 1: I am selling on the Jaguars mattering in the a
Speaker 1: f C. I just I hate what happened. Yes, Gardner
Speaker 1: Mishu doesn't matter um purpose. Everybody else can think that
Speaker 1: he's gonna save the day. But you know, west history
Speaker 1: is instructive when you turn to a sixth round quarterback,
Speaker 1: if it's not Tom Brady as a rookie, give me
Speaker 1: the list of guys that have stepped in and turned
Speaker 1: into real starters on a week by week basis. And
Speaker 1: I'm not selling entirely on the Jaguars defense, but I
Speaker 1: was just like so grossed out by their their performance
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. The Chiefs are the best offense in football, yes,
Speaker 1: but have a backbone in your building in Week one,
Speaker 1: I was just annoyed. I'm annoyed at their defense for
Speaker 1: playing so poorly in that spot. And now you what
Speaker 1: you're asking the Jaguars to do to be relevant? Uh
Speaker 1: in and and bridge the gap and get back to
Speaker 1: Nick Foles potentially in decent shape. Around five hundred, Let's
Speaker 1: say the Jaguars have to be the Jaguars of old,
Speaker 1: and they didn't look at anything close to it in
Speaker 1: Week one. So I'm just gonna say, put the bad
Speaker 1: quarterback situation with the defense that might be overrated, and
Speaker 1: this has got six and ten written all over it.
Speaker 1: I thought someone that who you know, who had bet
Speaker 1: full meals uh the performance of Chad Kelly would have
Speaker 1: a softer approach towards quarterbacks coming in from nowhere to perform. Well,
Speaker 1: he's different. I mean, that's swag. I would put a
Speaker 1: sandwich on Josh Dobbs making at least one start before
Speaker 1: Fools comes back. I wouldn't take you on it because
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think that Minshew was impressive in relief.
Speaker 1: But it's a lot different than being in relief. Is
Speaker 1: a lot different than a defense preparing for you to
Speaker 1: start a game, and it's not always going to be
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs defense that had no pass. I am
Speaker 1: entirely in all right, All right, here we go, good talk, guys,
Speaker 1: go get my lunch dot organic four tier. Let's now
Speaker 1: do a quick two minute drill. That's that's the name
Speaker 1: of like a podcast segment that no one's come up
Speaker 1: with yet. So we'll call it the two minute drill.
Speaker 1: Bucks Panthers, Thursday Night Football, September twelve pm Pacific, eight
Speaker 1: pm a twenty eastern. Figure it out if you're in
Speaker 1: England and the surrounding territories not owned by England, especially
Speaker 1: not high and you've got access to the anyway, here
Speaker 1: we go. Jameis Winson coming off that three and I'm
Speaker 1: starting the clock, Ricky Jamis Winston coming off that three
Speaker 1: interception debut. Now heads to Charlotte to face the Panthers.
Speaker 1: To oh and one team's Greg Rosenthal. Uh, someone's gonna
Speaker 1: come out of this in a really bad way. You
Speaker 1: feel good about the Panthers, that's my prediction. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I do think the Bucks at least have the run
Speaker 1: defense with um Vita Vea and William Golston and and
Speaker 1: Domikin Sue up front to maybe slowdine Christian McCaffrey, and
Speaker 1: I think that's probably job job one of any team
Speaker 1: trying to stop the Panthers. Bucks play calling had no
Speaker 1: rhythm with the quarterback, and part of that was how
Speaker 1: many penalties there were. But there was no rhythm to
Speaker 1: that passing game. Ronald Jones was perhaps the single most
Speaker 1: transformed player I saw in Week one. Last year, he
Speaker 1: was running in the labre a tar pits, as I
Speaker 1: texted Mark. This year, he's running through cornfields. You cannot
Speaker 1: arm tackle this guy, and Peyton Barber will be out
Speaker 1: of a job very soon. Ronald Jones looked fantastic in
Speaker 1: Week one. If I'm Todd Bowls, I would treat this
Speaker 1: game the way that Belichick treated that first Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with the Rams way back in two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: I would just do everything in my power to remove
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey from the game plan and just hang on
Speaker 1: tight and wait for Cam Newton to think mistakes. He is.
Speaker 1: He is the type of talent McCaffrey though, where you
Speaker 1: can't really take He's like Alvin Kamara in the sets
Speaker 1: that you can try because if you if you bone
Speaker 1: up to get on the run, they're gonna get him.
Speaker 1: In the past game, He's just such a talent, all right.
Speaker 1: But I'm comparing him to Marshall Fulk, who I think
Speaker 1: people would have said the same similar things about. Sure
Speaker 1: the Bucks, though they don't have it, they might have
Speaker 1: the worst pass rush on paper of any team in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Their top two pastors are Karl Nasseb and
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett. They had no pressure on San Francisco. They
Speaker 1: also gave up fewer yards in that game than any
Speaker 1: Bucks game all of last season except for one. So
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, who's used to not having many pass rushers,
Speaker 1: you know, had a pretty good Week one, and I
Speaker 1: have I'm curious what this Panther's offense is gonna look like.
Speaker 1: Still Desert likes the Panthers a lot by six plus one.
Speaker 1: Anybody at the Bucks dump the Panthers. No, that's two minutes.
Speaker 1: That's the two minute drill. Put a trademark on that.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today's show. We'll be back
Speaker 1: on late, you know, late Thursday. We'll have a recap
Speaker 1: of this game, and then we'll start digging into Week
Speaker 1: two and preview every game to come. We're in We're
Speaker 1: in it now, let's fly. Oh well, actually before wait
Speaker 1: and cut that a second? Uh program note, I believe Thursday,
Speaker 1: This Thursday is our first we stream the Sunday Night
Speaker 1: UM Flagship recap of all the games, which did really well,
Speaker 1: good numbers. I was told by the Shadowy League figures.
Speaker 1: So thank you everybody that check that out. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing the same thing starting week two for the
Speaker 1: Thursday show, so you can. Of course you'll get the
Speaker 1: audio podcast as you do always, but you also now
Speaker 1: have the option, uh to watch that live as we
Speaker 1: record it. We better not one. If we get really lucky,
Speaker 1: maybe Greg repeats the outfit here and goes hoodie hood
Speaker 1: up during the show. I mean this is I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: the hood I mean that's that We're not on camera today,
Speaker 1: so it's a beautiful Well, we could be on camera
Speaker 1: at any moment, isn't that true? You're always on camera?
Speaker 1: Can you get him on camera? Let's blow this out
Speaker 1: and get a nice ten minutes segment out quickly on
Speaker 1: social media. Point, we just fell into the spider web.
Speaker 1: This is what Greg was looking for. He was looking
Speaker 1: for a nice viral clip of him with the hook.
Speaker 1: Totally dark, addic, Go dark, Go dark. No one will
Speaker 1: ever foresee this reverse gears all right, here we go,
Speaker 1: All right. Dan Hanson signing off for Clyde Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, Behind the Glass Phil Thursday
Speaker 1: Night