1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast didn't fall out that window. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition on the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. I'm joined in the room 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: that's filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? All right? Tuesday's show, Week one 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: in the rear view. A lot to get to today. 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Good to be back on a Tuesday show. Our longtime 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: listeners will know we did this show five or five 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: seasons or so and then had to skip it. Unfortunately 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: a year we're back. Shadowy League figures and made us 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: change our night. It's like when the sitcom that they decide, 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: oh let's move them to Friday nights at eight pm, 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: and then the ratings tank and then they blame the sitcom. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: No bro put us back on the time spot where 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: we thrived. That's where we never even I think as 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: early as week one last year, you know, we enjoyed 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: doing uh the we the opportunity given to us. We 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: did the best we could have. But no, I'm gonna 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: say we did but like the but the schedule never 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: felt proper right, and we were just talking about because 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: who knows how long we'll do these Tuesday shows. Um, 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: like these fading bands that are still touring deep into 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: the you know, twenty thirty years after the relevance. Where 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: will we be thirty years from now? Where I mean, 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: I see the only place we could go potentially is 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: like overseas Europe, do sol doorf I mean like and 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: once upon a time in Hollywood where he has to 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: go to Italy to make the couch. I mean to 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: stay even vaguely relevant, I'd stay four or five years. 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Ten years from now, we would be very hot water. 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be hitting some of those same venues as 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: bands are hitting the Troubadour, you know, all around the country. 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: This scenario, all four of us are still together as 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: one entity. I'm just saying that this still existed. That's 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: a thirty year forty years now. Or are we just 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: saying no, We're gonna go three more years and it's 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: over and then what we I still have to make money, 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: don't you how something that's a good transition, um, West, Actually, 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: the four of us, I just wanted a little family meeting. Hey, 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: let's let's head downstairs. Actually, let's go let's go down 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: It's just the lamb. Let's go out to the lab. Mark, 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: you two all right, it's been a long time since 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: we've been in a while. Died a natural death. I thought, well, 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: it's alive, like Frank and Studd brought brought to life 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: down here. Um, I just want to make sure everybody's 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: cool after Sunday show. West, Greg, you've got a little heated. 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: It's a fair question. A little family meeting here, Mark, 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: and I obviously concerned the listeners as well. Ricky, you 49 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: weren't even here. Yeah, I was up in Wine Country 50 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: and I got asked if you guys were Okay, I'm 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of glad she didn't. I mean, you know, it 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: was an engaging discussion, but I think you probably were 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: in a more celebratory place. Yeah. So Greig gave a 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: speech at my wedding. I think we can survive Antonio Brown. Yeah, 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: we're you know, West and I are brothers, brothers, and 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: as we've seen with the Wesley brothers, they're gonna fight sometimes. 57 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: We we had moved on and we're talking bigger and 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: better topics. Immediately, I think it was important just to 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: have a family meeting. And yeah, I mean as opposed 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: to burying your feelings in in in four or five 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: seconds in acting like nothing mattered at all. We're fine, 62 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: we move on, and I'm still concerned a little bit. Yeah, 63 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: we're kind of like the concerned parents for the brothers 64 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: that we're fighting and just talk it out. Antonio Brown 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: is gonna come up and the news later today. So 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: we just as long as everyone's on the same page, 67 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: and you guys have moved on as brothers. That's more 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: of a testing ground when we get into the thick 69 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: a bit, you know, issue nice, nicely done. Dad, never person. 70 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's get out of last Dad. 71 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: I thought I was what's Erica Icas? Our little sisters? 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: He's a little sis. That means Dan and I berth Erica. 73 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: That is a ridiculous scenario. You birth Erica. That means 74 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: that one of you guys to win Disney World Right, 75 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: isn't the first man to give birth? Don't they win 76 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: Disney World? Mark? What does that even mean? Not worth 77 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: it at all. I could get in there today if 78 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to. I The whole thing reeks of poor planning. 79 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, that's good, because yes we're gonna get 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown and Bill Belichick's comments on the New 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Patriot its wide receiver. That deal is now official. We 82 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: will also um do a little by hold cell after 83 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: Week one on a number of topics we'll hit. We'll 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: look ahead to Thursday Night football UH and week two, 85 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: which begins with the Bucks at the Panthers. Nice little 86 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: match up there. But before we do any of that, 87 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: including the news, let us finish the Week one slate 88 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: with two Monday night football games, starting with v game 89 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: of Week one and one of the better Monday Night 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: football games of the decade. Let's go, Ricky snap placement 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: looks Leans into it, lots is done the distance always, 92 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Donna says when New Orleans gets the w in the 93 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: season opener, and Will looks just the hero. What's give 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: me some of that music, Ricky, give me some of 95 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: that too. No, well, here's a kicker. It's true. I 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, I kind of like alright, let's roll 97 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: with it. Will LUTs bangs of fifty eight yard field 98 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: goal at the gun, uh, lifting the New Orleans Saints 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: to a thirty to win over the Texans. An incredible 100 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: game featuring two quarterbacks playing at their peak. Drew Breesh 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: got LUTs in position to drill that kick with some 102 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: really fine QB play in the last thirty seven seconds 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: of playing time. It only got to that point where 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the Saints are behind because my, my goodness, Deshaun Watson 105 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: goes to place seventy six yards and hits Kenny Stills 106 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: to shock the Super Dome into silence. Uh. There, there 107 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 1: was so much drama in this game, west really really 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: good football. There was a lot of sloppy football throughout 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: the week, but this one was kind of an instant 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: classic and the Saints come out on top. One of 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: the best Monday night games I've seen. Due to my 112 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: own um habits on Monday night watching game pass, I 113 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: didn't come in to the reiving room to watch with 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Lakisha until the Hopkins passed at the end there, and 115 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I felt like I watched the whole game after that, 116 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: and it was only it was incredible. I was amazed 117 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: at I guess I shouldn't be at this point at 118 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson's just uncanny ability to play his best 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: when he's behind in a tough situation. It reminds me 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: so much of the Week sixteen game against the Eagles, 121 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: where he led a great comeback but then the defense 122 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: couldn't hold it at the end and Romeo Cornell that 123 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: the coordinator who had such a great first half ultimately 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: saw the Texans defense, which was very good for all 125 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: of last year, totally collapse on itself. Gave up twenty 126 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: seven second half points. Kind of a vintage Drew Brees 127 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: comeback in second half performance. And the soft coverage that 128 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: they played on the final past New Orleans crew was 129 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: just brutal. If you're a Texans fan too, have done 130 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: so many good things in that game and still loses time. 131 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Wake me up in the game where the soft coverage 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: scenario in the final mid and a half against the 133 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback works out for you. It's very rare. 134 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: I this game is one of those ones and held 135 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: of everything. Along with DeAndre Hopkins starring as an actual player, 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: he unfurled a German supplex on a Saints player, which 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: was enjoyable to watch. Um Taysom Hill got first the 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: first of his seven touchdowns. Bring me simmses but off 139 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: to a good start and all I want to see 140 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: is how are you gonna use players? And it gave 141 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: me a good sense. Come out of the game a 142 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: little concerned about both secondaries, but It was a bit 143 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: of a victory for Bill O'Brien even in the loss 144 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: that Kenny Stills played an integral big part. And I'm 145 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: not too worried about the Laramie Tunsil situation. Yet he 146 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: gave up. He did not play an ideal game at all. 147 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: But it feels like it would be hard in a 148 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: way that we never understand to jump in as a 149 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: left tackle on a team in an offense with like 150 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: four or five days to prepare. It was a great 151 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: start by those running backs to Duke and Carlos Hide. 152 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Especially Carlos Hide look pretty good for a guy who's 153 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: been given up for if times, they looked like a 154 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: perfectly competent one to punch the uh. I believe the 155 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Texas ran for a hundred and eighty yards and the 156 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: and the Saints had not given up more than a 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve all of last season, so they moved 158 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: the ball on the ground. Pass protection remains a major 159 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: issue for Houston, and yeah, we'll see if Tounzil straightens 160 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: himself out. He got beat on a really bad um 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: third down crucial play late in the game, but that 162 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: that plays like a good example of why it's tricky 163 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: sometimes to blame the tackles. They you know, the pass 164 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: rusher headers can jump the snap. I mean he was 165 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: off and that's that has nothing to do with the 166 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: tackle and Watson. I wouldn't say that sack is exactly 167 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: as fault, but he went back about eleven or twelve yards. 168 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: The idea is you want to push the guy behind 169 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: your quarterback, and Tonsil even pushed him. And I would say, 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: the how many sacks were they were there six six 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: in that game. At least two of them are on Watson. 172 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: That's just part of his playing style. That the line 173 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: didn't play well either. I'm not defending it, but but 174 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: it wasn't all well. I just my concerned the pressure 175 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: came from both sides, you know, and that's not it 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: just it wasn't It was not a clean game on it. 177 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: How long can he last? And everyone's asking the same 178 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: question on Twitter, but you know he's he's he's clearly 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: got a back issue by the time that game ended 180 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: from that touchdown running had and this stuff is the 181 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of way he plays is gonna in fight injuries. 182 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: It was a brilliant performance by Watson and you know, 183 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I as we know, if you listen to this podcast. 184 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I've been pumping up the Texans all season, and I 185 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: just think that it's been too often overlooked how great 186 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: this guy is. And I think maybe Monday and Last 187 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Night changes that because that's such a big audience watching 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: it and he starts to finally get recognize for being 189 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: a truly special talent um And and that's to me 190 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: when I look at the a f C South and 191 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: I know their own one, so own one his own one. 192 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: But the X factor in the division to me is 193 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: the Texans have the Shaun Watson and the other teams don't. 194 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna make the difference if he 195 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: stays healthy. Question mark of course, um, I don't think 196 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: any of these other teams catch the Texans. I think 197 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: that when I specifically talk about the holes on their roster, 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of overlooking how special Deshaun Watson and DeAndre 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: Hopkins are and j J. Watt just because he had 200 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: one game where he didn't make much of an impact, 201 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: he's still special to I mean, I think that depth 202 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: is important, but but also stars win games. But he 203 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: also needs to be j J. Watt because without Jadevan clowney. 204 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he's getting a little more attention. Ryan Ramchuk totally 205 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: shut him down as was one of J. J. Watt's, 206 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: you know, worst career games, and then where are your 207 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: special plays coming from? Because eventually that secondary kind of cloud. 208 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: It was a vintage Watson performance and I think one 209 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: reason he got overlooked this offseason is final impressions that 210 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: we had of him last year the playoff game. And 211 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: it's the same thing with Drew Brees. I think we 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: overrated how the end of last year went on some 213 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: level just because in the end, he was the second 214 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: best quarterback on balance in the NFL last year and 215 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: even in this game, like he isn't the story and 216 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: they put up yards in twenty seven halftime. I can 217 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: have point he's part of a bigger system. He's got 218 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: great players around him, but I think he can run 219 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: that system. This game did not make me feel better 220 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: about Drew Brees. I think it's a privilege to watch 221 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: today's veteran quarterbacks uh in clock management at the end 222 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: of the game because they've taken it down to a science, 223 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: whereas thirty years ago that wasn't a thing. But the 224 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: field has condensed for the Saints offense. It just has 225 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: since since the first half of last year. They're playing 226 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: on a smaller field and they need Alvin Kamara and 227 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas to be special because Drew brees arm isn't 228 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: what it was, But he didn't attempt to pass over 229 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: thirty yards until that Tedkin forty yards shot in the 230 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: final two. I hear you. It's just they had a 231 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: two plays over forty yards, another over third, two more 232 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: over thirty. It's just the bar is so high with them. 233 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: It's like it's not fun to watch. And maybe he's not. 234 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Their margin for airs just a little smaller than it was. 235 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: And I would be worried if I was them, about 236 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: their defensive tackles and their run defense, and and maybe 237 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: a few things about one little thing. And Dan, you 238 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: pointed out that this is a Twitter victory. I loved 239 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: that ESPN. And you know, I think Monday to Football 240 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: is under a fair amount of pressure. To put it mildly, 241 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: like they unfurled this um for this down and distance 242 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: marker that was bright yellow, and so if you've watched 243 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: football for more than five weeks, your eye is thinking penalty, 244 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: and so you're drawn to what the drama is and 245 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: there's none because it's second and five. But by halftime 246 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: they ESPN put out a tweet saying we heard you. 247 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: We followed the drama and Will Brinson got one of 248 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: these tweets that gets retweeted like seventy five billion times, 249 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: and you know, that was a nice move. But then 250 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: what happens there is they went and changed went No 251 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: he I think that led to the change because they 252 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: saw these viral tweets said this thing is a mess, 253 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: and they changed the graphics. Will, who's a friend of 254 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: the show, is as savvy as they get on Twitter, 255 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: and he went with the old hey, retweet or favorite 256 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: if you want. Uh, the ESPN to change their ways 257 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, I thought you had a great tweet because 258 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: you're like this like down in distance mark or is 259 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: it on anyone else's ready? Oh? Yes, everyone else is 260 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: already on top of the print an influencer. Oh till 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: not the game on tumbler. Check out Princeton on tumbler. 262 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: It does not get any better than then, and t 263 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: can we go to your corner? Yes, let's do it. 264 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: That coveted numbers two spot behind justin Tucker. It's Will 265 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: LUTs right, he did miss a kick as well today 266 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: at that I don't put him on that that that 267 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: referee time situation forced them into a field goal. They 268 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: should not have the league apologize for that three kicks. 269 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: Ross has got to show me more beyond one year. 270 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Roses is number six. Who's there with Tucker and let's 271 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: put me on the spot there, Chris, let me think 272 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: about that. Get back to maybe all right, maybe hit 273 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: another six yarder for the extra get another L in 274 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: your name. I think that's a that's a red flag. 275 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: Let's well with one. A lot of misspellings. Game. First thing, 276 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: go with the four car under center, I formations, fins, 277 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: hands off, Jacobs over the right site, digging, turning. He's 278 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: in for the touchdown. I don't know how we burrowed. 279 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: I don't know how he shot marine, but somehow he 280 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: stakes into the end zone. That's a touchdown run of four. 281 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: The Raiders extend their leader. I'm a fourth quarter over 282 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: Denver browed Kevin Harlan Westwood one. He's so good. I mean, 283 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: that's a four yard touchdown run and he makes it 284 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: sound like it was the the greatest game that was 285 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: ever played. What was that playing with the Giants and 286 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: was it packersts It does get too quickly at this 287 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: point we should They had seven turnovers in the first half, 288 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: five lost bumbles in the greatest sloppy game ever played. 289 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: I see you called Giants calmed down anyway. Derek Carr 290 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: threw a touchdown pass on the opening drive of the season. 291 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs ran for two scores. The Raiders with the 292 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown fiasco swirling around them, humble the Denver Broncos 293 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: sixteen on Monday night in Oakland, the final Monday night 294 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: football game in Oakland before the team moves to Vegas. 295 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: And it is such a crime, Um and Greg, this 296 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: was This is a in terms of six teen, as 297 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: big a beat down as you can get. I just 298 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: thought the Raiders had their way with Denver and it 299 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: was that way from the jump. And all the things 300 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: you thought would happen, uh, namely that the Broncos defense 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: would give the Raiders fits, none of that came to 302 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: fruition and instead the Raiders just kind of went up 303 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: and down the field. At May the the Broncos had 304 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: a Ghoston. Longtime listeners of the podcast will remember we 305 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: named a zero sack, zero QB hit game from an 306 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: entire team as a Ghoston maybe a lot we should 307 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: call it now, but you know, couched on the team 308 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: that you were breaking news. Patriots are training wide receiver 309 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: to Marius Thomas to the New York Jets for six 310 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: round a pen that doesn't pass the smell test. What 311 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: it is? I will say this, it is news. I 312 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: mean you have broken it, so it is now breaking news. 313 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: So we normally we would wait till the end of 314 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: the conversation. We just started since ultimately no one's gonna 315 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: listen to it for three hours, just talking like logistics. 316 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: But it was the Jets and Pats involved. It's kind 317 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: of fun and sexy. Yeah, we get getting your Mark 318 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: said good to know I what I you did not 319 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: in your I am client to us suggests that it 320 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: was breaking news. You gave us the update that this 321 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: had happened, which I very much appreciate. I said, good 322 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: and I dash dash at Dan Hansas for you to 323 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: pick up at another time. Erico did it a very 324 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: capable job of breaking the non breaking news. Anyway, to 325 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Marius Thomas, who was the odd man out there. Now 326 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown is in town, goes to the Jets, 327 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: so I guess are looking for depth. There's someone's hurt 328 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: that we don't know about yet. I don't know that 329 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: he could just I mean, it's a sixth round pick, 330 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: like one year after Adam Gates gets fired. So it's 331 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: not a huge feeling pretty good about yourself. I'm not. 332 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it is rattling, rattling cages, rattling cages. 333 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to Monday Night football. Uh. Yes, 334 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders Broncos. No answer for this was just John 335 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: Gruden's ideal game. He's all about completions, short completions, getting 336 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: rid of the ball, being decisive. Derek Carr had one 337 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: of his best games in years in Gruden like, this 338 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: is exactly what God wants to do, ball control with passing, 339 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: and they're You're right. They didn't really have much of 340 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: an answer for it. This Raiders team, I really do 341 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: believe is different than a year ago, even without Antonio Brown. 342 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: I just think they've upgraded their talent to a a 343 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: normal level where they that was not the case a 344 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: year ago. And I think you saw Mike my X 345 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: draft class be a factor, and I just think they're 346 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a competitive team this year Font's perfect, like 347 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: a lot of their pickups had a big impact in 348 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: this game. I thought it was telling the way that 349 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: they from the very beginning used Josh Jacobs, who we 350 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: didn't really see on Hard Knocks that much and at all. Right, 351 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: so he twenty three carries. The rest of the team 352 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: outside of car had three, DeAndre Washington and Jalm Richard, 353 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: So that is, you know, if you picked him up 354 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: on Fantasy, good for you. I forget all that the numbers, 355 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: And I thought, Derek Carr, who gets we we give 356 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: him lots of compliments on this show, but I don't 357 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: think that he's accepted as a premier quarterback by most. 358 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: He had one of those games. And they mentioned a 359 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: rich Gannon game that happened in the early two thousands 360 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: of the year they went to the Super Bowl, where 361 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: Brian Greasy mentioned it because he was the Broncos quarterback. 362 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: I randomly was at that game when I lived in Denver, 363 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: and what occurred in that game with rich Gannon was 364 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: that I believe he broke the consecutive completions record. I 365 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: had a few in me along with my cohorts, but 366 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: it was like twenty one straight passes. So is that 367 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: kind of Raiders night because it had an old school feel. 368 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: And I feel for the Broncos fans because you walk 369 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: into a game like at and it's one of those 370 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: games where the entire and Dan I think you dealt 371 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: with this on Brown's Jets last year in primetime, almost 372 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: anyone that didn't have a super tight Denver rooting interest 373 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of fell in line and wanted the Raiders to 374 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: sweep Denver up in this game and just drop him 375 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: with a hammer. And I enjoyed watching it. I've never 376 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: really been been a Raiders guy, but I could found 377 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: myself pulling so hard for them to win, and I 378 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: loved the game. My first note on this game was, 379 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Raiders are flying around the field like the two thousand 380 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: thirteen Seahawks. Uh, definitely playing with more energy than a 381 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: normal game. How long does this last? And the last 382 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: the whole game? They they brought it the whole game. 383 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: The crowd brought it the whole game. This was exceptionally 384 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: well coached. Jimmy g was the only quarterback to get 385 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: rid of the ball faster on average than Derek Carr 386 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: did in Week one. Their offensive line was superb and 387 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: I've been killing that offensive line. They shoved it down 388 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: my throat. They're playing without their two starting guards and 389 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: still shut out that Denver front seven. I mean, what 390 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: else do you need to know than the drive? In 391 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: the second order, Oakland takes over at the five. I 392 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: believe they get two false start penalties or two penalties 393 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: takes them back to the one and a half or 394 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: two yard line, and then they just march straight down 395 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: the field for a touchdown. And yes, kudos to the 396 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: game plan. Get the ball out of Car's hands quickly 397 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to to you know, negate the pad or neutralize the 398 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: past rush with Von Miller and Bradley Chubb. But if 399 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: I'm John Elway and they showed l I don't know 400 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: if you guys caught the final minutes of the game 401 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: camera right in Elway's face on the sideline and then 402 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: he did not like it on him. But if I'm lay, 403 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here scratching my head and I'm thinking I 404 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: can't get anything right. I got Joe Flacco, or get 405 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: to him in a second, who's not able to lift 406 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: the offense. I thought he would be the guy for me, 407 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: and then this defense. I bring in Faggio to be 408 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: the missing piece to take this defense to the next level, 409 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: and they can't beat up on the Raiders. I'd be 410 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: very concerned if I'm a Broncos fan. It's just one game. 411 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: The only thing that makes people out to be bigger fools, 412 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: uh than Week one is week too. So we'll see 413 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: how they look next week. But this was not a 414 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: promising in Fngio now has to go play the Bears 415 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: defense next week, which is an interesting time frame there. 416 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: And one little tiny note on Fongio and that I'm 417 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: done with this, Like the look I get. The coaches 418 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: have their own um style and they want to wear 419 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: what they want to wear, and Fongio wants to be 420 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: flexible and comfortable and have you know, free reign of 421 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: body motion during the game. But the sweatshirt with this 422 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: gigantic sort of um Batman and Robin esque, you tell 423 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: utility belt. I don't know what's in all the little 424 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: pockets taste back to the early nineties. Andy Reid is 425 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: employed that at times, but it's it's not We need 426 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: to rethink from the ground up the overall aesthetic that 427 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: that if you if you're gonna be winning, no one 428 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna embrace it. If you're gonna lose games, you 429 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: need to be looking sharp. Well you know what this 430 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: is though, we just talked about in a recent show 431 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: head coaches looking hotter than they're getting to the gym. 432 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: They're doing the facial hair, they have jawlines. Now, Uh, 433 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: they care what they look like on the sidelines. Faggio 434 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: is a throwback. I mean, he's a first year head 435 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: coach in the sixties, so he's a bit of a 436 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: throwback to a guy. It's like, I just want to 437 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm all, I'm built for comfort, not style. I want 438 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: to win football games. It didn't work out on my 439 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: day night clothing. I'm not talking. I'm not you're saying, 440 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: you're you. I'm not asking. I'm not asking him to 441 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: go exercise necessarily. But but we can do more. And 442 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: we've learned even in this room that if we up 443 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: our fashion game, things can change. Not all of us 444 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: know that, some of us I believe that fair. It's 445 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: fair to question Vic Fongio calling defensive plays from the 446 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: sideline when he's never done that in his entire career, 447 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: and at the vantage point in which he was calling 448 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: plays before, I think probably was an assist to him. 449 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: I think it's also fair to question why almost no 450 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: head coaches in NFL history have called defensive plays from 451 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: the sideline, because it's impossible to actually run your team 452 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: and worry about offense. He's saying, I'm just passing offense 453 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: off to old Skangs. Well, Skanking says doesn't have many 454 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: pelts on the wall either. He can he can, he 455 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: can call whatever he wants. I just think in general 456 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: that's problematic because what made fan Joe great, you're taking 457 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: that away and you can't really manage the whole team. 458 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: I actually didn't think the Broncos defense was that bad. 459 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: This was well, they were invisible. They couldn't make it. 460 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: I hear you, turnovers, no hits. Here's how many possessions 461 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders had. They had seven. The Broncos had eight, 462 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: and they either kicked a field goal or missed one 463 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: on six of them. Like they just didn't have the 464 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: ball that much. They moved the ball in the second half. 465 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: They think they look fine in the second half. They 466 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: kind of woke up from the preseason. You gotta be 467 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: better in the red zone. It was boring to watch, 468 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: but the difference between Flacco and car to me was 469 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: really big. Flacco in the first game in a new 470 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: system in Car. Now in the second year, you could 471 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: just see how much calmer and how quicker he was processed. 472 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: I mean, find me a number lower than zero to 473 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: describe Joe Flacco's Q rating during that game. I mean, 474 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: whenever he came on the fields, when I go, if 475 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: I have are things I need to go do, that's 476 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: when I go take care of Yeah, you you tweeted, well, 477 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: let's be ready for state of Flacco. Yeah, let's cue 478 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: up West for state of flac. Oh. Yeah, this was 479 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: a candidate for the team of West l here. Well, 480 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: it was uninspiring was the word I would use. And 481 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: if he plays like that all year, I don't care 482 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: about the one oh five passer rating. Dave Shawn Hamilton's 483 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: dropping an easy touchdown, his right tackle goes down, and 484 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: then it was at the very next play that the 485 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: stubstitute gives up a third down sack. So a lot 486 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: of things going against him, But uninspiring is the word 487 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: I would use. He held the ball too long in 488 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: the red zone. Uh, some of those sacks were his 489 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: own fault. Um. I thought that it was uninspiring. And 490 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: if he plays like that, all year, Lay and I 491 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: are both taking big els, especially since Elway they put 492 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: this big message on the board before the game. Lay quote, 493 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: our season rests on the shoulders of Joe Flack. I mean, 494 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is the Peyton Manning statue in the pocket, 495 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: the not at the actual good News West if the sheriff, 496 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: if Joe Flacco does flap flop, only one of you 497 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: probably gets fired. So well, we'll see we should else. 498 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: Why do you throw them? Probably in there, my you 499 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: never know, take on wrong. It could go very wrong. 500 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: You never know what any like figure we need to 501 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: talk to you about. Here's state of Flacco right now. 502 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'm only gonna like watching this 503 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: team during home games, alright. Not a good road quarterback, 504 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: not a good thing. I don't think the Broncos have 505 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: played well on the road period in the last few years, 506 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: and I always fall for them in home games, and 507 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: that's my fault. All right. There you go those recap 508 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: the final Week one games. Let's now do some news. 509 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Baker just literally just says, want one yard in row. 510 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna banging on you because you're big. I 511 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: don't know that's funny to me. I just think it's funny. 512 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: In fact, I wouldn't hear it again. We Bregy Binker 513 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: just literally just says, run of one yard in row. 514 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna banging on you because you're big. I 515 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: think he's talking about David N. Choke who, but he 516 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: could be talking about a variety of things, so he 517 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: is potentially talking about the tight end. Um. All right, 518 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: let's get to the news. Starting with Yes, the Jaguars, 519 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: who plays Nick Foles on injured reserve? He he can 520 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: still come back, but even that is uncertain at this point. 521 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: Jacksonville moves him uh to I R with that broken 522 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: left collar bone he suffered in the first quarter of 523 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: Sunday's lost to the Chiefs. As we know, the only 524 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: other quarterback on the roster in Week one was Gardner Minshew, 525 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: the sixth round pick, who played quite well Simson and 526 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: even uh In in relief. But who knows if that's 527 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: going to continue. Unlikely to continue, let's be honest, So 528 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs also joins the fray. The Jags announced on 529 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: Monday they traded for the former Steelers back up Um, 530 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. In goes back to Pittsburgh's or 531 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: dabs uh enters a depth chart behind Minshew. So the 532 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: job is Minshew's for the time being, uh considerably, Um, 533 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: you know a significant amount of time being Mark Sessler, 534 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm Gardner, Flint Minshew too. I am 535 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: not concerned about Josh Dobbs. Let's start right there. And 536 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, we just got done talking about Derek Carr. 537 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew twenty two of twenty five with two touchdowns. 538 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: And I have never in my life had a backup 539 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: quarterback emerge out of the shadows where suddenly I don't know, 540 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: but you guys, I'm getting tweets about Minshew saying, you 541 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: guys don't understand. This dude has the it factor. He 542 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: lit it up in college. He was with Mike Leach 543 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: at Washington State. People that have been around him just 544 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: say they love him, and they and that the entire 545 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Washington State team gathered together with Leech to find out 546 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: what was going on during this game. He is one 547 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: of these dudes the people like a pied piper figure 548 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: get behind. He's immediately become my second favorite player in 549 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I'm going to be drafting Jaguars games 550 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: very early on. Thursday, because I like the whole energy. No, 551 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: because facial hair comes and goes. It's about what's inside 552 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: the soul and what I think I see in him. 553 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: So let's start with there, and Josh Dobbs have a 554 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: nice time sitting on the pine over under a month before. 555 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: You're still picking Jaguars games as you're high on yourself. 556 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: All depends on what they do with Gardner Flintmanshoo too. Uh. 557 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: Doug Marone told Iron Eagle and Dan Foults the Beard 558 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: and the Bird to those of you out there who 559 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: still remember that, uh, that this guy can sling it. 560 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: There's no question about his arm strength. I think Fault 561 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: gave him a lot of credit for reading the blitz 562 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: is in that game. That's promising, and I thought it 563 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: was interesting he was going to transfer to be a 564 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: backup at Alabama because he wanted to be a graduate 565 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: assistant under Nick Saban. This guy's thinking ahead so that 566 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: he's that sort of quarterback that one. It's like, hey, 567 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: he's a coach on the field, which usually those guys 568 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: end up being coaches. Well you know, by the way, 569 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: ena being Kevin O'Connell or Greg mel fitthan Heisman Trophy 570 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: voting and the recipient if the Johnny United Scholden Arm Award, 571 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: which is given to older college players i e. Seniors. No, 572 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: but those guys usually don't come in and have the 573 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: first you know week in the NFL performance that he 574 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: that that performance should absolutely grab our attention and want 575 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: to see Foles is getting fuls. Wow. Henry Hodgson, the 576 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: vice president of International here at NFL Media, UH sent 577 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: me a tweet from a gentleman named Chris Kaufman. He 578 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: co hosted a Dolphins podcast and Uh, Kaufman throughout the question, 579 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: who does Gardner Minshew look like to you? And there's 580 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: a couple of good answers here. Um, he looks like 581 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: the mechanic that comes to the waiting room shaking his 582 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: head saying you need your engine to be completely rebuilt. 583 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: He looks like the dude that abandoned your sister after 584 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: he knocked her up, but he's back now, has a 585 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: great job with a cable company and really wants to 586 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: make things right. Uh. He looks like the tag along 587 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: brother of your best high school but after he got 588 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: out of community college. He does have that every man 589 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: look that you can get behind. And I think for 590 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: better worse, he sneaks up on you. They do expect 591 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: falls back. This case, he's snuck up on the Chiefs. 592 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: Maron believes they'll be back, maybe as early as week eleven. 593 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: That's that's the first week he's that's a long time. Yeah, well, 594 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: let's see where Doug Moron is by week eleven. I mean, 595 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: I I wish him well, but that's what that is. 596 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: You and miniche Meta are both on the same corner. No, 597 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: I've actually spoken. Doug Maron is one of the few 598 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: coaches that when I've approached him at a league event, 599 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: was actually nice to me versus trying to swap me 600 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: away like an insect fly into the air. He's three 601 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: times the size of you. He is a massive human. 602 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: Beginning of the i R bad news for the Eagles, 603 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: the fetes of tackle Malik Jackson expected to be a 604 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: placed on injured reserve after suffering a significant foot injury. 605 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: That's how the team termed it, and Sunday's opener against 606 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: the Redskins. UH decordinator Philly Jim Schwartz said, Yeah, we'll 607 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: probably be without him for a while. Malik is an 608 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: important part of what we do and we will certainly 609 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: miss him, so next man up. In all that, according 610 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: to NFL Network, Jackson has Liz Frank's surge coming up 611 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: next week and it is an injury that should wipe 612 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: out his entire season. Big setback was yeah, it is, 613 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: and because he's a good player, but not every team 614 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: has a Timmy Journ again sitting on the bench waiting 615 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: to jump right into the starting line. App and Jarnakin 616 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: had a big sack that would have knocked the Redskins 617 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: out of field goal range if not for a Derek 618 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: Barnett penalty in that game last week. They're a little 619 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: thinner though, I think on the defensive line in general 620 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: than they have been the last couple of years. There, 621 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: I would say that's definitely true at defensive end, and 622 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: now because of this injury, that's true at defense. That 623 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: game got a lot of attention because of the way 624 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: the Redskins jumped out early when no one expected it. 625 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: But if you go look at what happened when the 626 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Eagles kind of got out of their own way, three 627 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: of their four drives in the second half went for 628 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: one zero in four yards. They totally shut the Redskins down. Um. Meanwhile, 629 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: at the dog Pound Cleveland Brown star O'Dell Beckham Jr. 630 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: Said he continued he plans to continue wearing the one 631 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: ninety thousand Richard Millie hundred ninety dollar Richard mill Millie. 632 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I read it was a three hundred 633 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars has been reappraised sin then time piece, 634 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: so watch that the league reached out to him about 635 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: and said, hey, bro, I don't know if you can 636 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: wear a watch on the field. He says, I want 637 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: to keep wearing it. I will keep wearing it, and 638 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: he added Tuesday that the NFL is singling him out. 639 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: Your girl, your woman, excuse me. Mark Mary kay Cabot 640 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: reported that Beckham said, today if Tom Brady was wearing 641 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: this watch, nobody would say anything. Tom Brady wouldn't be 642 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: wearing on h LL watch, keep your focus on the field, 643 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: and market has nothing to do with the Browns. This 644 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: guy's been driving me crazy for years, and this is 645 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: the type of stuff that drives me crazy. This feels 646 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: like it's pulled from a time machine, from a giant's 647 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: game from because he has been totally quiet and nothing 648 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: but a model citizen and not saying this makes you 649 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: not a bad citizen. But it's but we don't need 650 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: why does anyone needs? This is the tight rope that 651 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: being someone that comments on professional football walks when a 652 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: story like this comes out, and especially with Odell Beckham 653 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: getting paid. If you if you criticize, if you criticize 654 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham or a player for doing something this, you're you. 655 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 1: You are presented as someone from the establishments, someone who 656 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: doesn't get youth culture. But no, it's not that. It's 657 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: just like, this is stupid and you just got your 658 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: ass kicked in week one and you don't need to 659 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: make a story about yourself and certainly don't need to 660 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: be bringing up Tom Brady's name and saying that you 661 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: are somehow being singled out. It's just unnecessary. It's not 662 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: the end of the world. No, it doesn't matter in 663 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things. But this is the type 664 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: of stuff with Beckham that comes with the package, and 665 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: it's not always great. Am I The only one that 666 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: when I read this was like if I even owned 667 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: a watch, which I don't like, and it was that expensive. 668 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Is the first thing I don't go do being an 669 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: athletic event where it's like getting scuffed by helmets and 670 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: like getting you know, smashed into dirt and grass, Like 671 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't need better be getting paid for it because 672 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: they are getting an exceptional amount of free advertising. I mean, 673 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: I assume he's getting paid for the would it would 674 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: only be I would only wear it if you could 675 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: knew you could get another free one. Uh, you know, 676 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: after Cameron Wake's helmet cracks it or whatever could happen. 677 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: Does that we're advertising it? How is it for? What 678 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: worth it? If the goal here is to get a 679 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: free watch? Is it worth just having to answer questions 680 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: from the media for a week straight straight? But I 681 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: just don't understand other watches. I didn't know there was 682 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: rules against wearing Who was Richard Millie? Why did you 683 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: say have to answer questions from the media. He's in 684 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: the spotlight, he's getting attention. Why would you wear I 685 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know why you'd wear I don't just the whole thing. 686 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: It's I don't have time for. Antonio Brown came around, 687 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: came along at this this new souped up Antonio Brown 688 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: in the last year or so, and blew Odell Beckham away. 689 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: I just worried about ob Obi j getting a little 690 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: like you know, jealous and be like, no, I'll show 691 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: you what it means to be a petulant wide I 692 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: mean watch petulants. He's just being trying to be stylish. There. 693 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: That's fair. That after me is the establishment. It's funny 694 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: because it's fun Hey, if you've got to talk about it, 695 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, there is everything, everything is black 696 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: and white with this stuff. I don't think it's black 697 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: and white. I I do think that rich guys, and 698 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is one of them. The first thing they 699 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: do when they go to the meeting, like the Rich 700 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Guy Club meeting, They're like, let's get super into watches. 701 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: Let's care about the differences between them, let's know everything 702 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: about watch culture, and let's just dive in. Where whereas 703 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: for twenty five years of our life we didn't care 704 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: about watching the other object. I know this from traveling 705 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: overseas to an area in Rome or somewhere Italy where 706 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: people were shopping NFL players men's um handbags that costs 707 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: like five dollars and thinking that we could help pay 708 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 1: for it on our NFL stipend. No, I can't even 709 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: buy ice cream cone in Italy for how much it cost? 710 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: All right, speaking of Antonio Brown, Bill Belichick. All right, 711 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: here we go, boys, everybody, let's do this right. Bill 712 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: Belichick ac spoke on Antonio Brown. He was asked about 713 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: it during a conference call um this week, and everyone's saying, well, 714 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: what this this Brown? This guy destroys locker rooms. He he, 715 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: He is petulant. He's a guy that you can't trust. 716 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: And what do you think about that? Bill, That's the 717 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: guy you bring into your locker room. That the same 718 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: thing you said about Randy Moss when we got brought 719 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: him in. So when asked if outside issues affect the 720 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: team's ability to win, there's no way for me to 721 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: know what's inside every person's mind. That's up to each 722 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: of us individually, but collectively we try to get ourselves 723 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: in the best physical, mental, and emotional state to go 724 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: out there and play as well as we can once 725 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: a week and so on and so forth. Um. I 726 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: do have we talked about a little bit on on Sunday. 727 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: Might have gotten lost in the everything else, but I 728 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: do have this this horrible, deep, um dark feeling within 729 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: my soul that this is gonna work out exquisitely to 730 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. At first, I was all in on 731 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: the idea of the Trojan horse and that Brown was 732 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna come in and do Brown things and destroy the 733 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: Patriots from within. No, he is going to be a 734 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: monster on the team that's going to win many, many, 735 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 1: many games. I I have no idea what's going to happen, 736 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: because it's football. What do you think and how could you? 737 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: What do you think the most likely uh outcome is here, 738 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: given the past history of this organization, which by the way, 739 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: is a testament to them, the most likely outcome is 740 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: this works out, Yeah, for a year and then that's 741 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: probably it. Whereas in Randy Moss, people forget kind of 742 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: wore out his welcome and was a pain in the 743 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 1: neck after three or four years, three years it wasn't 744 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: even the most rebellious wide receiver on his own team. 745 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Porter was. But you know, Jerry Port, when we're 746 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: Belichick and we're gonna paint all the media as one 747 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: entity as if we're all lem Pascarelli answering for this 748 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: for for what it's worth. This was after this was 749 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: like the third follow up question, and in his answer 750 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: was the least surprising thing ever. And I believe it 751 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: to be true that Okay, there is a calculus. I'm 752 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: only gonna take on so many of these guys. But 753 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: he said ultimately late he's not worried about what happened 754 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: in other locker rooms. That he's worried about if if 755 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: someone works hard and if someone has a good you 756 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: know added you know, works hard at their craft. That 757 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: was Randy Moss's problem. Randy Most admitted to trying so 758 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: little that he got himself out of the Raiders. He 759 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: also said, I would like to you know back then 760 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: he was. He basically admitted, I'm trying to get out 761 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: of there, and he kind of just put it in 762 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: a half effort for half a season and eventually they listen. 763 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they're worried about effort when it comes 764 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: to Brown. I think they're just confident that they have 765 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: the structure that it'll be fine, and if it's not, 766 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: that they can just cut them. And by the way, 767 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean, why shouldn't Belichick have complete confidence that that 768 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: is the case, because it's like they are the one 769 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: team that has proven they can get players accountable and 770 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: wired them a certain way. And in West I'm sorry, 771 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: but I also don't care what Belichick thinks about the 772 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: media because the way the Patriots are treated in certain ways, 773 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: they are treated differently. That Belichick could shrug off the 774 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: entire media as one balloons sing king over the sea, 775 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: and I just don't have a big problem with it. 776 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't think his job is to give a crap 777 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: about the media at all. Can I just point out 778 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: that Belichick is lying through his teeth about what he 779 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: says he doesn't care about what happens in other locker rooms. 780 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: That is true only if you are in all pro 781 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: caliber talent, then he doesn't care what happens in other 782 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: locker rooms. But for all the other player he scouts 783 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: and does his due diligence on, he does care about 784 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: what happens. And of course I mean he. I think 785 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: he learned this lesson early on with Lawrence Taylor, who 786 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: maybe shaped his career more than anyone. If there was 787 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: a guy who broke more team rules and norms of 788 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: what you would expect your player to do in terms 789 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: of professionalism, it was Lawrence Taylor. And you know what, 790 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: they bent over backwards to basically allow his drug abuse 791 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: try to work with him, um because they believed in 792 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: him as a player. It was just that's just the reality. 793 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: They liked it. They liked the person too. I mean, 794 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: it was tricky, but Lawrence Taylor wasn't just simply the 795 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: football player was the part. I mean, the idea of 796 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: that you have different rules for different players, especially exceptional players, 797 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: the idea that that's not the true on every team 798 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Phil Jackson during his time with the Bulls. 799 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: I just read this the other day. Dennis Robin, who 800 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: was as uncontrollable a figure as there was in the 801 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: NBA in that era, certainly, um he had different rules 802 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: for rodn and for different personalities, to the point where 803 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: he would be fine with Dennis Robin going to Vegas 804 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: and going on and all night bender U during the 805 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, just make sure you're back here for the game, 806 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: because he thought in Dennis and Dennis Rodman's mindset that 807 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: that would make him a better player. And the fear again, 808 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: the fear, because that's what's the worst thing about this 809 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: for me, is that the Patriots are gonna get better. 810 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: Is that Belichick intrinsically understands this, and Lawrence Taylor is 811 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: a perfect example. Belichick was on that staff and he'll 812 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: know the right buttons to push with Antonio Brown in 813 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: the way that Mike Mayock and John Gruden did not. Well. 814 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: To take your comparison one step further, the only reason 815 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: that Phil Jackson Dennis Robin dynamic worked was because Michael 816 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: Jordan was there to instill order and keep keep a 817 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: tight lid on Dennis Robmin just like Tom Brady is 818 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: there in New England. Sure An Brown and taken selfies together. 819 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: And I think the time aspect is crucial because I 820 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: think the Patriots are are fine managing with these guys 821 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: who are a little different than the rest of the 822 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: team for a shorter amount of time, and then they 823 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: increasingly think, okay, that's the expiration date. They We did 824 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: find out he has a second year on his contract, 825 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: which is up to New England if they want to 826 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: have the option. But even a guy like Chandler Jones, 827 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: who was the last guy um who got in any 828 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: real you know, like had any issues with teammates or anything, 829 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: there was sort of an expiration date with him because 830 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: he marched to the to the beat of his own drummer. 831 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: And and then they get rid of you. All right, 832 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news, all right, Before we 833 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: turn all our energy toward week two and beyond. Let's 834 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: uh take one look, one more look back at week 835 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: one with a little by hold cell or is it 836 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: by cell hold? I think it's by cell hole, the 837 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: hold being the third typically the third option, I would 838 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: imagine all the middle. It's like the porridge in the middle. 839 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but am I wrong? I feel like, yeah, 840 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: it's exactly understand Well, we've renamed it to something else. Okay, 841 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: all right, wind Loser draw after week one, buy cell hold? 842 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: Remember that game show? Yes? Yes, well I mean not. 843 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: Isn't it functionally in our life? Day after dating? I 844 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: do remember? Was it was it? Like? Remember that was 845 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: like when you had the home version. Got a couple 846 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: of b listers in there? All right, Bert Reynolds pre 847 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: Boogie Nights might have popped up in a wind Loser draw. 848 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, pre Boogie Nights. Here we go post 849 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,959 Speaker 1: smoking the bandit pre Boogie Nights, very dark period for Bert. 850 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: It's big window there. All right, Here we go by 851 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: by cell hold. Greg will start with you. I'll throw 852 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: a bunch out. Um. We talked this out before the show, 853 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: So I'll just tee you guys up and then you 854 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: let me know by cell Hold will start with Greg 855 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Concern for Jimmy Garoppolo after a week one performance. 856 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm buying concern if that's what I am concerned until 857 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: proven otherwise. And it's the first game and he's coming 858 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: back from a tour and a c L. It was 859 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: telling to me they I mean they ran more runs 860 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: then passes in that game. There's an ugly pick six. 861 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: He missed a lot. I would say I think he 862 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: probably I would say he had probably one of the 863 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: four or five I guess. I haven't watched every game, 864 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: but he was probably one of the worst performances by 865 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback last week. And the bigger issue is, to me, 866 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, some guys they have good games, bad games, 867 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: But you see what you used to see from Jimmy G. 868 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: Or you know you certainly saw from Baker Mayfield. Still 869 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: five incredible throws in that game, including in the second half. 870 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: I just had I haven't seen those throws from Jimmy 871 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: G in a while, and I want you and you 872 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: definitely didn't see any of them on Sunday against Tampa. 873 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to get hit. Notice this in the 874 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: preseason noticed this in the game against the Buccaneers, where 875 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: he's turning his back after he throws the pass immediately 876 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to get hit because he doesn't trust 877 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: his knee. I imagine um, and I think that throughout 878 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: his career in the limited sample size we have, he's 879 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 1: an above average quarterback between the twenties and a blow 880 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: average quarterback in the red zone. And he's got to 881 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: fix his red zone issues. I mean, he's also twenty seven, 882 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: about to turn twenty eight, so there's only so many 883 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: more years toixed. This is a very important year for 884 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: James Garoppolo alright, West Cowboys as a dominant offensive force. 885 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: By cell Hold, I am buying this. They are drastically different. 886 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: The Texans are the only team that saw a bigger 887 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: increase than the roughly increase of offensive plays with shifts 888 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: and motion that kell him Moore uh used in Week 889 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: one compared to what Scott Linahan did last week. They 890 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: transformed their aw fence. They did not go through the run, 891 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: they went through the pass. They were extremely pass heavy 892 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: early on. There were huge tracks of land like watching 893 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: a Chiefs game. And it wasn't just because it was 894 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: a Giants defense is because the play caller, and because 895 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of weapons. Randall Cobb looks reborn, 896 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: throwing people around, running well after the catch. Michael Gallup 897 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: is in line for a breakout year. They love Blake Jarwin. 898 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman was saying that they think he might be 899 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: the most athletic guy on their offense. They have a 900 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: lot of weapons on this team, and I even think 901 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Devin Smith on their bench is being 902 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: under you. It informs why there was less panic around 903 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott's situation because it's distinctly a different approach obviously. 904 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: And I look at Dak Prescott three full years at quarterback, 905 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: has never missed a game, twenty three twenty two and 906 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: twenty two touchdowns over three seasons. I wouldn't be surprised 907 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: if he hits forty. Wow. So we got the We 908 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: got the Cowboys as West's Super Bowl pick, which he's 909 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: loving right now. We got the Raiders back. I like 910 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: it of need when the big like kind of NFL. Well, 911 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots were not part of that classic age, so 912 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: maybe they need to, you know, like a big, gigantic 913 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: come out of the sky. Land Dallas average twenty one 914 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: point four points per game. They could jump a full 915 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: seven points. There can't they wes. I think if you 916 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: are it limits your offense when you insist on going 917 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: to establish the run, established the run, established the run. 918 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: Great website, but maybe not a great that's a philosophy. 919 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: And twenty nine and and when you had the Cowboys defense, 920 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: I can see the temptation to do it. But when 921 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: you've got a mind like Kellen Moore. And we continue 922 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: to hear Dak Prescott after he has a perfect passer 923 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: rating the new opener says he's one of these geniuses 924 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: out there. You can next teammate. I think that really matters. 925 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: Mark Jamis Winston flipping the switch under Bruce arians by 926 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: cell Hold after a woful week one. I'm selling it 927 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: and it's it's I'm selling with like I'm selling low 928 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: because I don't know who's buying it at this point. 929 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: Because you I I get two years ago, you'd still 930 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: think that something can happen and there there can be 931 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: a switch to flip. I don't think there's a switch 932 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: on the wall and you're in the dark searching around 933 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,959 Speaker 1: for it. At this point, the guy turns the ball 934 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: over at anything all essentially everything but Blake Bordles levels 935 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: and and he's right there and Eli Manning too, and 936 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: you know he he he has not he has. He 937 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: leads the league with Cam Newton over the past three 938 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: or four seasons with three plus turnovers in a game, 939 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: which absolutely sabotages you. And you have to at this 940 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: point assume that he's going to do that three or 941 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: four times a year that you're gonna lose if you 942 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: hope to go ten and six. Three of those losses 943 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna wind up five and eleven instead 944 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: are because Jamis Winston cannot control what he's doing with 945 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: the ball, and the whole idea that because Bruce arians 946 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: was gonna come in and keep the yardage and the 947 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: electricity of that attack up, but rain In Winston and 948 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: creates smarter decisions in his mind. He goes out and 949 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: throws three interceptions against the Niners, and I feel like 950 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: they dropped a couple to where it could have been 951 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: more than three. So I you know, one game in 952 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: sell it, I'm holding I'm holding bro al right, Well, 953 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: you're that's a very concerned. I just think it's a 954 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: very I think it's it's too premature to write off 955 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: any quarterback. Yeah, I'll hold it. I mean, I haven't 956 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: come this far. It would be news if you sold. 957 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: What you hit on Mark is interesting because they were 958 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: a lot less exploited. It was a bad It was 959 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: a terrible offensive game in general. He started the game 960 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,479 Speaker 1: until just missing throws. None of them look good. Any 961 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: concern Mark though, that you brought up that you had 962 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: to buy sell hold of the TNF the team playing 963 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: on TNF when we're about to have the TNF pre Yeah, 964 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: it kind of pulls the plug on Tom and side 965 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: make then. But then it's also an opportunity for more, 966 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, to skate, just to skate. Got plenty to 967 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: talk about, all right, Um, now you're gonna think that 968 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: this was me making the same mistake in a way 969 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: doubling up. But it's not because I want to talk 970 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 1: about it and get into in depth where we didn't 971 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: really have the opportunity during the game. Recap the Raiders 972 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: final season in Oakland. I'm buying man, you know I'm 973 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: buying the I'm buying Derek. You know I'm buying John Gruden. 974 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm buying the dirt enfield. The last time we'll ever 975 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: see a dirt enfield. Potentially, I'm buying the black hole, 976 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: the real black hole, not the Fugaisi version that they're 977 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna try to foist upon us in in the desert 978 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: next year. And I just think it's not a big 979 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: enough story. How amazing these fans are that their team 980 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: is quitting them, and they're like, and I mean this 981 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: is in a positive They're like the unrequitted love. They're 982 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: like a golden retriever that they just still love their Raiders. 983 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: Then they love getting together with their friends and family 984 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: and dressing up like maniacs and going insane for their team. 985 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: Now week one, Monday Night football, the electricity is going 986 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: to be a higher level. We'll see how it looks 987 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: if they're you know, foreign seven and in a couple 988 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: of months. But there's also I would not rule out 989 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: in the final season in Oakland, based on what we 990 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: saw in Week one, that the whole city is just 991 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna rally around this team and send them off, which 992 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: is really commendable for a fan base. I kind of 993 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: like Greg also during this this conversation you're having shifting 994 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: into what feels like a Raiders esque outfit. But you're 995 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: right and when they've they've been so deplorable for so long. 996 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't change the way that stadium is. It's an 997 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: event that they go to every week. It's not like 998 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: suddenly you're getting you were smirking my entire soliloquy there. 999 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: What the way they dressed? Have you considered they might 1000 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: just be fetishists? They're great fans. It's a crime the 1001 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: football from Oakland. Not only all that, everything you said 1002 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: it is true. I guess I'm holding because I think 1003 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna be an interesting seven eight win type of 1004 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: team that stays in the make. I don't know what 1005 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm buying here the fans. I'm buying all that. Let 1006 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: me where there's some nice moments. I think it was 1007 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: a potential for the Raiders being a really tough team 1008 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: in their building, which most people would not have expected 1009 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: this year. And I think they could hang around. I 1010 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 1: love it. I don't think they can play with that 1011 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: energy all year. But they earned a hold for me 1012 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: in that game. That was a very impassive West. That's 1013 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,959 Speaker 1: saying something, yes, I would I would have said chance 1014 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: for a sale before that game was there's a sliding 1015 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: door scenario where they lost that game for nothing. And 1016 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: I know they have the great I know they have 1017 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: the great history, but they've been worse than they've been 1018 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: as bad as the Browns or any franchise in the 1019 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: NFL the last two decades. And now and now you 1020 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,479 Speaker 1: had a move to it, which is the one which 1021 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: was the ace up to sleep Browns fans to two points. 1022 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: And I see all you mean girls on Twitter and 1023 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: the different snarky blogs all around. That just killed John 1024 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: Gruden forever, forever and ever. And I don't see any 1025 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: blogs throwing the guys some credit for having a hyper prepared, 1026 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: focused team whip up in Week one without their best 1027 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: player who tried to ruin the season. Let's give Gruner 1028 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: a little bit of credit for what they were able 1029 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 1: to do in Week one. But I hear you alright, Hayden, 1030 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor dragging Andy out of the Dalton scale. Bye, 1031 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: I've got to buy I'm feeling the weak one fever 1032 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: where we overreact that after all these years, Andy Dalton's 1033 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: gonna be I got the waters going to the super Bowl. 1034 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm at least into I've been 1035 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: into Zach Taylor all offseason. We're trying to raise this 1036 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,919 Speaker 1: guy's CU rating. No one knows what he looks like. 1037 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Let's here for skinny uh five nine 1038 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: guys being head coaches in the NFL. I don't know. 1039 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he is. He looks like it when he's next 1040 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: to all the players that they were. They were not 1041 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: the Rams offense, by the way. It wasn't all the 1042 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 1: three wide receivers. There's tight end screens, there's a lot 1043 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: of things going on, there's vertical passes there by in 1044 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, man, he just looks so comfortable and decisive 1045 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: for that one game. And I know maybe they had 1046 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: a schematic advantage of Seattle and never seen them before that. 1047 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm at least if he can may John rossa thing. 1048 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm just hoping he can make Andy Dowton the thing. 1049 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm buying because I you know, watch 1050 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: that from end to end on Sunday and they changed 1051 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: my feeling about them. But Greg, I not to suggest 1052 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 1: that you were projecting here a little bit. Zach Taylor 1053 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: is six too. Yes, that shocking, I am. Some guys 1054 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: look shorter than they are. Some things don't need to 1055 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: be said, West, but we want to hear your opinion one. Well, 1056 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that offensive line is gonna be able 1057 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: to hold up for much longer, and I don't think 1058 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: the schemanic advantage that they had in Week one will stay. 1059 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: And John Ross's game was about as flukey as the 1060 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: receiver's game gets. How dare he was open more in 1061 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: that game than he was in entire career. But Thompson 1062 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: isn't gonna miss time a jump every time they have 1063 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: a sixty five yard bu But you're not gonna get 1064 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: a flee flicker wheel route every week for a long touch. 1065 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: His His speed, though, is game breaking speed, and he 1066 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: was open a lot. He dropped two passes, which is, 1067 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: you know, game breaking speed. The last two years too, 1068 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: no more green, and that offense didn't fall apart. It 1069 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: was impressive. I'm just saying I'm selling them as that's 1070 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna be repeatables. Sammy Watkins long awaited breakout year by 1071 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: cell hold after a monster Week one, I'm buying that 1072 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: was as quick uh as he's looked in traffic and 1073 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: explosive after the catch as I've ever seen him since 1074 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: coming out of Clemson, when he was hyped as you know, 1075 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: the next great wide receiver. I think that probably for 1076 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: the past year and a half, he's had the most 1077 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,280 Speaker 1: unfair advantage of any wide receiver in the NFL, playing 1078 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, and Patrick Mahomes. And he 1079 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: he admitted that after the game that look, I was 1080 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: open for those two long plays because of Tyreek Hill, 1081 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 1: and then after Hill's injury, he was the chain moving 1082 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: number one receiver who who was still getting open and 1083 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: making plays after that. I think he's a transformed guy. 1084 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: He talked about finding balance in his life. They're traveling 1085 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: all over the world this offseason. He seems like a 1086 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: guy who came to camp ready for a huge year, 1087 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,760 Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna have it. I mean, spent 1088 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: his year catching footballs from you know, jabronies in Buffalo 1089 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: to start his career. And at this point, I'll buy 1090 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: anything in Kansas City's offense. You could throw almost any 1091 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: scenario at me, I'll buy it. I'm selling. I mean, 1092 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 1: he's been on two of the total Greg Well, here's 1093 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: the thing. He's been on two of the great the 1094 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: best offenses in football the last two years, and he 1095 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: didn't gain more than six hundred yards in either season. 1096 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: So I've just seen him have these monster games here 1097 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: and there throughout his career. I want to see it more. 1098 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: Has two already. Uh, who's turn? Let sir, sure you 1099 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: could skip me if you want, it's your turn. That's 1100 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: what I thought. Mark Adam Gaze's quote unquote electric as 1101 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: Sam Donald put it a couple of weeks ago, Jets 1102 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: offense by sell Hold, I'm certainly not selling because they 1103 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: played a defense last week that I think we'll go 1104 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: down once again as one of the best in the league. 1105 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: And it's week one and you know, Donald just maybe 1106 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: someone that could have used out that you want to 1107 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: do this and throw him into the fire a couple 1108 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: more quarters in the preseason to get a little more 1109 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 1: on track. I think Gaze and I could be completely 1110 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: wrong about this is maybe one of these guys that 1111 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: keeps getting chances sort of the way Belichick did over 1112 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: and over by people because someone somewhere believes in him. 1113 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 1: He's almost like um, like one of these old painters 1114 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: that was a mad genius that had a patron, some 1115 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: sort of rich patron that would backed them and basically 1116 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: give them. You know, there's uh. There was a Flemish painter, 1117 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: Peter Peter Paul Rubens who had the Duke of Mantua 1118 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: that just paid him to do paintings forever and we 1119 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: never would know he was that this one guy didn't believe. 1120 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: And I think that maybe the Jets, you know, the 1121 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: Johnson family, saw something in Gaze that others don't and 1122 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 1: maybe it goes totally south. But I'm not out on Gaze. 1123 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm still buying on Gaze. I'm totally buying on Donald 1124 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 1: because the guy is like twenty three years old. I mean, 1125 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: it's there are other people coming into twenty two. There's 1126 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 1: other people coming into the lead. He get twenty four 1127 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: and not starting until twenty five or twenty six, and 1128 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: we've seen too much from Donald to like at this. 1129 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Donald some tough love here. I was 1130 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: gonna talk about it on Thursday, but might as well 1131 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: do it here. Um. There were two times in his 1132 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: career so far where um, he really had a chance 1133 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: to play some hero ball. The first one was mentioned 1134 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: that Browns game in Week three last year where they 1135 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: got the ball back and the sky was falling, but 1136 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: it was too soon. He was he was a baby. 1137 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: Jeremy Bates was his offensive coordinator. Todd Bowls is prominently involved, 1138 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 1: gave momulligan on that and they weren't able to move 1139 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: the ball down field. They got the ball back down 1140 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen, uh with three minutes to play in their building, 1141 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: and they had no kicker, and they went and got 1142 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: fighting by the way today to replace Carrie of Dvick. 1143 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. But they had no kickers, 1144 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: so they were in a tough spot. But what I 1145 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: really wanted to see in that moment with some growth 1146 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: from Donald and for him to leave the Jets down 1147 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: the field and maybe steal that game back. The fact 1148 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: that he went two for seven and they turned it 1149 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: over essentially downs at the end of the game, UH 1150 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: was disappointing to me, and I that that annoys me. 1151 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just him. This team does need more 1152 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: time to gel uh. The offensive line did not play well, 1153 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: could not handle the Bills blitz uh and Gaze was 1154 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: killing the wide receivers this week in the media, h 1155 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson was getting some strays uh, not directly, but 1156 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: not running the right routes and not playing at his best. UM. 1157 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: But I just need I'm in hold territory dropped down 1158 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: from a hard buy to a hole, just because I 1159 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: was so disappointed by the way that offense tanked um 1160 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: when they had a chance to put that game way 1161 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: or take it at the end. Well, I'm surprised that 1162 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: you're that you're that you're in that place with them 1163 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: after that game. I mean, it's Donald, That's what I 1164 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: just didn't think it would change at all. I thought 1165 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: you'd give him another week because it's to me like 1166 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: that final drive was a mess and it kind of 1167 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: reminded me of the way I felt about Trabski after 1168 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: the opener last year against the against the Packers, where 1169 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: he couldn't seal the deal. But uh, well that's a concern. 1170 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: It is. I don't want a ceilings. I have a 1171 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: little not not that you're going to read the stand, 1172 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: but there's a little Brown's Jets Mayfield Donald summary in 1173 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: this week's on my reading it because I need to 1174 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: move on from well it's quite positive of Donald. Actually, okay, 1175 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: well then I'll read it. I'm not I think the 1176 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: game was The game was disenchanting, but like I how 1177 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: I could see also you being totally on fire a 1178 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: week from now, literally a week from now, after they 1179 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: beat the Browns on Monday Night football, and you'll be 1180 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: completely back in and acting like it's I'm I'm holding 1181 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: on the offense, but I'm selling on the Adam Gates 1182 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: press conference experience lasting long term in New York. We 1183 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: talked about this the second he was hiring that his 1184 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: the way he is behind the microphone, how frustrated he gets. 1185 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just gonna burn a lot of 1186 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: everything in New York energy and and I don't necessarily 1187 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: think he's slamming all of his players, but he's a 1188 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: lot more critical and just being honest about all of 1189 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: their mistakes without necessarily putting it all on himself. And 1190 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: the media eats that up, and at least some of 1191 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: the players are gonna eventually not like that. And it's 1192 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: just it's just a cauldron of of a lot that 1193 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: he needs to have some success early. But I do 1194 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: think there those tabloids have already caught fire with gas 1195 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: tears of happiness he's making. This isn't true. I've been saying, 1196 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: I love this cauldron of dude was swirling, you love it. 1197 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: I have been by his press conferences for a long time. 1198 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: You're you're you're masking your true feelings and rooting interests, analysis, 1199 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: and I see it all. Well, it's just greg of 1200 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: that certainly. Not all right, I'll throw out one more. 1201 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: I am selling on the Jaguars mattering in the a 1202 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: f C. I just I hate what happened. Yes, Gardner 1203 01:00:54,520 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Mishu doesn't matter um purpose. Everybody else can think that 1204 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna save the day. But you know, west history 1205 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: is instructive when you turn to a sixth round quarterback, 1206 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: if it's not Tom Brady as a rookie, give me 1207 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: the list of guys that have stepped in and turned 1208 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: into real starters on a week by week basis. And 1209 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm not selling entirely on the Jaguars defense, but I 1210 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: was just like so grossed out by their their performance 1211 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. The Chiefs are the best offense in football, yes, 1212 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: but have a backbone in your building in Week one, 1213 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: I was just annoyed. I'm annoyed at their defense for 1214 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: playing so poorly in that spot. And now you what 1215 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: you're asking the Jaguars to do to be relevant? Uh 1216 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: in and and bridge the gap and get back to 1217 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Nick Foles potentially in decent shape. Around five hundred, Let's 1218 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 1: say the Jaguars have to be the Jaguars of old, 1219 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: and they didn't look at anything close to it in 1220 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Week one. So I'm just gonna say, put the bad 1221 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: quarterback situation with the defense that might be overrated, and 1222 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: this has got six and ten written all over it. 1223 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: I thought someone that who you know, who had bet 1224 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: full meals uh the performance of Chad Kelly would have 1225 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: a softer approach towards quarterbacks coming in from nowhere to perform. Well, 1226 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: he's different. I mean, that's swag. I would put a 1227 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: sandwich on Josh Dobbs making at least one start before 1228 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: Fools comes back. I wouldn't take you on it because 1229 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: I agree, and I think that Minshew was impressive in relief. 1230 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: But it's a lot different than being in relief. Is 1231 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot different than a defense preparing for you to 1232 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: start a game, and it's not always going to be 1233 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs defense that had no pass. I am 1234 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: entirely in all right, All right, here we go, good talk, guys, 1235 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: go get my lunch dot organic four tier. Let's now 1236 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: do a quick two minute drill. That's that's the name 1237 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: of like a podcast segment that no one's come up 1238 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,439 Speaker 1: with yet. So we'll call it the two minute drill. 1239 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Bucks Panthers, Thursday Night Football, September twelve pm Pacific, eight 1240 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: pm a twenty eastern. Figure it out if you're in 1241 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: England and the surrounding territories not owned by England, especially 1242 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: not high and you've got access to the anyway, here 1243 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: we go. Jameis Winson coming off that three and I'm 1244 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: starting the clock, Ricky Jamis Winston coming off that three 1245 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: interception debut. Now heads to Charlotte to face the Panthers. 1246 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,479 Speaker 1: To oh and one team's Greg Rosenthal. Uh, someone's gonna 1247 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: come out of this in a really bad way. You 1248 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 1: feel good about the Panthers, that's my prediction. Yeah, I do. 1249 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: I do think the Bucks at least have the run 1250 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: defense with um Vita Vea and William Golston and and 1251 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Domikin Sue up front to maybe slowdine Christian McCaffrey, and 1252 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: I think that's probably job job one of any team 1253 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: trying to stop the Panthers. Bucks play calling had no 1254 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: rhythm with the quarterback, and part of that was how 1255 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: many penalties there were. But there was no rhythm to 1256 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: that passing game. Ronald Jones was perhaps the single most 1257 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: transformed player I saw in Week one. Last year, he 1258 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: was running in the labre a tar pits, as I 1259 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: texted Mark. This year, he's running through cornfields. You cannot 1260 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 1: arm tackle this guy, and Peyton Barber will be out 1261 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: of a job very soon. Ronald Jones looked fantastic in 1262 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: Week one. If I'm Todd Bowls, I would treat this 1263 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: game the way that Belichick treated that first Super Bowl 1264 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: with the Rams way back in two thousand and one. 1265 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I would just do everything in my power to remove 1266 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey from the game plan and just hang on 1267 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: tight and wait for Cam Newton to think mistakes. He is. 1268 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 1: He is the type of talent McCaffrey though, where you 1269 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: can't really take He's like Alvin Kamara in the sets 1270 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: that you can try because if you if you bone 1271 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: up to get on the run, they're gonna get him. 1272 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: In the past game, He's just such a talent, all right. 1273 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 1: But I'm comparing him to Marshall Fulk, who I think 1274 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: people would have said the same similar things about. Sure 1275 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: the Bucks, though they don't have it, they might have 1276 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: the worst pass rush on paper of any team in 1277 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. Their top two pastors are Karl Nasseb and 1278 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: Shack Barrett. They had no pressure on San Francisco. They 1279 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: also gave up fewer yards in that game than any 1280 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Bucks game all of last season except for one. So 1281 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, who's used to not having many pass rushers, 1282 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, had a pretty good Week one, and I 1283 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: have I'm curious what this Panther's offense is gonna look like. 1284 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: Still Desert likes the Panthers a lot by six plus one. 1285 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: Anybody at the Bucks dump the Panthers. No, that's two minutes. 1286 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: That's the two minute drill. Put a trademark on that. 1287 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today's show. We'll be back 1288 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: on late, you know, late Thursday. We'll have a recap 1289 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: of this game, and then we'll start digging into Week 1290 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: two and preview every game to come. We're in We're 1291 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: in it now, let's fly. Oh well, actually before wait 1292 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: and cut that a second? Uh program note, I believe Thursday, 1293 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: This Thursday is our first we stream the Sunday Night 1294 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: UM Flagship recap of all the games, which did really well, 1295 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: good numbers. I was told by the Shadowy League figures. 1296 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,959 Speaker 1: So thank you everybody that check that out. We're gonna 1297 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 1: be doing the same thing starting week two for the 1298 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: Thursday show, so you can. Of course you'll get the 1299 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 1: audio podcast as you do always, but you also now 1300 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: have the option, uh to watch that live as we 1301 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 1: record it. We better not one. If we get really lucky, 1302 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 1: maybe Greg repeats the outfit here and goes hoodie hood 1303 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: up during the show. I mean this is I'm enjoying 1304 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: the hood I mean that's that We're not on camera today, 1305 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 1: so it's a beautiful Well, we could be on camera 1306 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 1: at any moment, isn't that true? You're always on camera? 1307 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Can you get him on camera? Let's blow this out 1308 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: and get a nice ten minutes segment out quickly on 1309 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 1: social media. Point, we just fell into the spider web. 1310 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: This is what Greg was looking for. He was looking 1311 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: for a nice viral clip of him with the hook. 1312 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Totally dark, addic, Go dark, Go dark. No one will 1313 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: ever foresee this reverse gears all right, here we go, 1314 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 1: All right. Dan Hanson signing off for Clyde Storm, the Mailman, 1315 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, Behind the Glass Phil Thursday 1316 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: Night