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Speaker 1: Lea is One Bills Live presented by Come Light to Health.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we are on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. One Bills Live is the show

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Speaker 1: as we plow our way through the free agent period

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Speaker 1: and get ever closer to the NFL Draft twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: which will be held in Kansas City this year, of

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Speaker 1: all places. Great so we can watch Chiefs fans celebrate again.

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Speaker 1: I after winning the Super Bowl, not really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that part of it, but whatever. Um. And so

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Speaker 1: we're just over a month away from the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: which is April twenty thirty six days, a little over

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Speaker 1: a month, and uh, we're inching our way to it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, getting ready for it, and more and

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Speaker 1: more mock drafts keep flying around, Steve, and I know

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Speaker 1: you were glued to Daniel Jeremiah's latest iteration. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: all they He was caught today saying that DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a perfect fit in Buffalo if you

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Speaker 1: take out all the financials and push them to the side.

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Speaker 1: D hop would fit with Buffalo perfect as he had

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Speaker 1: a spot for him. Oh yeah, that's nice. Great. Then

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Speaker 1: we got mock draft Quentin Johnston. He's a six four,

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Speaker 1: two hundred fifteen pound wide receiver out of TCU at

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Speaker 1: number twenty seven. I'm like this very second, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at a highlight reel of him. Daddy likes, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: he's a nice player. He's a nice player. Big talk,

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Speaker 1: holloway speed, Yeah, explosive weapon, perfect to come in and

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Speaker 1: you know, just add to the mix. Uh TCU guy,

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Speaker 1: good run after catch. Yeah, I mean he got big,

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Speaker 1: long stride and covers a lot of ground. Would be

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Speaker 1: a matchup problem for some athletes in the secondary. You

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Speaker 1: know they you know, they just and you know, well,

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Speaker 1: it's fun. We'll see. He's got him a chance to

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Speaker 1: be there. He's got him as his fourth receiver coming

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Speaker 1: off the board. He's got Addison and Jacoba, and then

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Speaker 1: he's got let me see here, Zay Flowers all ahead

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Speaker 1: of him coming off the board. So he has Addison

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Speaker 1: has at Ohio States Pro Day today is the only

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Speaker 1: receiver that is draft eligible who is participating in the

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Speaker 1: workouts today. Early reports are he ran a four or

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Speaker 1: five three and a four five in his two forty times,

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Speaker 1: which in my estimation is good enough for what he is,

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Speaker 1: which is arguably the best route runner in the entire

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Speaker 1: draft class. That's called fast enough to do what he does.

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Speaker 1: Smart scout once told me, it's not about how fast

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Speaker 1: you run on the watch, it's how well you run routes,

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Speaker 1: because running routes has everything to do with football. Running

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Speaker 1: fast only has something to do with football. There is

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Speaker 1: a cutoff point. You can't be a receiver in this

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Speaker 1: league running a four to seven, But did you run

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Speaker 1: four or five? You run under four to six and

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Speaker 1: you're a great route runner, you can still your productive.

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Speaker 1: Steve Largent wasn't a fast guy. Yeah, all these guys

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Speaker 1: But the difference is this, and it's obvious, how well

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Speaker 1: that fast, that's elite. That's something that's that's rare most

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Speaker 1: guys because of the pressure that it puts, particularly when

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Speaker 1: you use good technique in route running where your shoulders

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Speaker 1: It's hard to change directions doing it with perfect technique.

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Speaker 1: Guys who can do that usually don't run for you know,

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Speaker 1: You're you're just too there's too much wear and tear

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Speaker 1: nature makes your run a little bit faster. That's why

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Speaker 1: slow guys look like they play fast because they get

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Speaker 1: if you've got great change of direction, great in and

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Speaker 1: That's that's you know. You gotta watch film on these guys.

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Speaker 1: You have to see how they play when the heat

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Speaker 1: by looking at your watch. Right, So, the Ohio State

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Speaker 1: Pro Day is being heavily attended every thirty of thirty

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Speaker 1: two teams are represented in person at the pro Day.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what the other two teams are doing. They're

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Speaker 1: busy somewhere else like those guests. Those other two teams

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Speaker 1: But we saw some photos from Columbus and GM. Brandon

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Speaker 1: with the two tackles last night, Paris Johnson and Duwan Jones,

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Speaker 1: The big names are obviously c. J. Stroud, Jackson Smith

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Speaker 1: some people, including NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah, believe he could

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Speaker 1: it becomes an exercise in what's your favorite flavor. Do

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brownie and I are. We're neck deep, We're

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Speaker 1: us in the draft, Dude, it's just as complicated for

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Speaker 1: boost for the toolbox. But he you know, the bi

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Speaker 1: built fans have seen this guy run from He had

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Speaker 1: a three touchdown game against him, Yeah, up there on

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Speaker 1: the Monday night, Yes, in a blowout loss, in a

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Speaker 1: Patriots blowout loss. If I remember right, All those runs

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Speaker 1: were in from pretty close. Yeah. But still, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how much have we talked about goal line carries? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that that are done by somebody other than

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen exactly. That's just what I was thinking when

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Speaker 1: I when you said that, It's like, oh my gosh

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Speaker 1: that it all comes together now, right, the guy's a

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Speaker 1: red zone back. I'll take it. I mean, let's not

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Speaker 1: forget twenty twenty one the guy had fifteen running rushing touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think that's proof positive that he could be

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Speaker 1: a capable goal line back with a capable line in

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Speaker 1: front of him. Our own Maddie Glab caught up with

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Speaker 1: Damien right after he signed, so we wanted to share

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Speaker 1: that with you so she could get you could get

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Speaker 1: a feel for Buffalo's newest running back. So here is

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Speaker 1: Bills Report Maddie Glab with Damien Harris. Damien Harris one

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Speaker 1: of the newest running backs to this Buffalo Bills running

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Speaker 1: Back Room. Welcome to Buffalo. What attracted you to this team, Damien? Um? Well,

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Speaker 1: as I'm looking outside, it's all the sunshine and the

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Speaker 1: good weather. Um. No, you know, this is a great organization,

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Speaker 1: um feel with great coaches, great players, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just a great feel. So, um, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to be here, and um you know, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to everything that's to come. When you were signing

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Speaker 1: your contract, you were, you were, you were getting into it.

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Speaker 1: This this was a moment for you. Why was this

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Speaker 1: a big moment for you signing with the Bills here. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just it started a new chapter for me. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, myself, my family. UM, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: another step um, and further than my my professional football career. UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, something I dreamed of since I was eight

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Speaker 1: years old. So you know, I'm incredibly thankful to the

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Speaker 1: entire Bills organization. UM, you know Miss Pagoula, UM, you

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Speaker 1: know mister coach McDermott, Um, you know, just everybody. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm really thankful to be here and just continue my career.

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Speaker 1: This team is not a team that that you don't

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Speaker 1: know about at all. You're quite familiar with the Bills

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Speaker 1: because you came from the Patriots. The Bills are also

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Speaker 1: familiar with you because that twenty twenty one season you

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Speaker 1: had so many rushing touchstones. What do you know about

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Speaker 1: this Bills team? What did they look like playing against

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Speaker 1: them for for a few seasons with the Patriots. Um,

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Speaker 1: it was always tough, I can tell you that. Um.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, this is a great organization. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's rand well, it's coached well, and it's

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Speaker 1: got great players. So UM, it's easy to see that

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Speaker 1: whenever you play against a great team like this, and

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Speaker 1: you know now it's even better to be a part.

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Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: great things about this organization, and you know, I just

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Speaker 1: want to be somebody to come in and contribute and

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Speaker 1: you know, do whatever I can to help. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: further the success of this organization. You've had a productive

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Speaker 1: career in the NFL so far. So what do you

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Speaker 1: want to do with this Bills team? How do you

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Speaker 1: think you can add to this offense here? Um? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I just want to help this team win. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the name of the game. UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the business that we're in. So you know,

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, I want to come in and help

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Speaker 1: this team win. But UM, you know, my as far

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Speaker 1: as how I play, I think that that speaks for itself.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I'm familiar with this organization, it's familiar

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Speaker 1: with me. Um. But I think it's just my competitiveness. UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, my desire to win, my desire to get

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Speaker 1: better and to push those around me to be better. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that attracted me the

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Speaker 1: most about this organization actually was you know, I had

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Speaker 1: some of my best games against Buffalo, and so I

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Speaker 1: felt like, you know, every time we went up against

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Speaker 1: the Bills, or I say we, but every time I

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Speaker 1: played against the Bills, you know, I always wanted to

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Speaker 1: be at my best. And you know, I felt like

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Speaker 1: if I felt that way as an opponent, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I came in to be a part of this organization,

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Speaker 1: you know, it could only further that feeling of wanting

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Speaker 1: to be at my best every single day. So I

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Speaker 1: feel like if I do that, I can help this

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Speaker 1: team win. I can help the guys around me and

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Speaker 1: be better. And you know, just like I said, continued

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Speaker 1: to um, you know, help this organization build. We're glad

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Speaker 1: this organization is not playing against you anymore that you're

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Speaker 1: playing with us now. You're an Alabama product, played for

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Speaker 1: the University of Alabama. We've got a Georgia product in

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Speaker 1: the running back room and James Cook. So are there

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Speaker 1: going to be some tough weeks during the college football

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Speaker 1: season with you too? I just want to say what's

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Speaker 1: up to my dog? First? How about that? We'll start

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Speaker 1: with that. You know, I'm excited to meet all the guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, meet all my teammates, all the other backs.

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Speaker 1: So maybe once, once we're a little bit more acclimated,

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Speaker 1: then we'll get into the trash talk. But for now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just excited to be here and you know, to

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Speaker 1: say what's up to everybody. We're playing nice so far.

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Speaker 1: We like that last question for you, what do you

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Speaker 1: want Bills Mafia to know about you? This is your

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Speaker 1: introduction to this crazy, crazy fan base that you know

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Speaker 1: and you got to play, you got to play with

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Speaker 1: basically when you played home games here, when you played

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Speaker 1: away games that are now going to be home games.

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Speaker 1: So what do you want Bills Mafia to know about you?

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Speaker 1: I can finally say it now, but I love Bills Mafia.

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Speaker 1: The energy, the enthusiasm, the tables on fire, everything that

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Speaker 1: comes with it. You know, I've loved it ever since

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Speaker 1: I came to the league, just because you know, I

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Speaker 1: love sports towns and you know, communities that really rally

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Speaker 1: behind their teams, and you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: anybody does that more than than Buffalo fans and here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. So you know, I love you guys, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just excited to be a part and

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Speaker 1: hopefully give you guys some more reasons to jump through,

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Speaker 1: some more tables on fire. Damian, we love it, We

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Speaker 1: love you, Love Bills Mafia. Welcome to the Welcome to Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right. So that's Maddie Glab with Damian Harris

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Speaker 1: after he signed on the dotted line yesterday late yesterday,

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Speaker 1: right right around five o'clock hour, got the pen put

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Speaker 1: to paper and got it done. So he is on

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Speaker 1: board and we were talking about it in the show

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Speaker 1: all day yesterday. Meanwhile, while we were on the show yesterday,

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Speaker 1: there were reports coming down that the Bills are going

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Speaker 1: to resign veteran offensive lineman David Quessenberry, who was basically

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Speaker 1: the team's swing tackle last year and had some good

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Speaker 1: performances when he was called upon last season. So the

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Speaker 1: word is he is going to resign with the Bills,

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Speaker 1: presumably another one year deal, just like he had last year.

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Speaker 1: Nothing official yet from the team, so that is not done,

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Speaker 1: but it looks like it's heading in that direction. And

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Speaker 1: so they would add, you know, their swing tackle from

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Speaker 1: last year would be back on the roster. So we'll

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Speaker 1: wait for final confirmation of that before word is official.

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Speaker 1: But he actually had to start three games last season,

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Speaker 1: you know when Spencer Brown had the high ankle sprain

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Speaker 1: and missed a couple of starts. We will take a

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Speaker 1: break here, but before we go to break, we'll throw

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Speaker 1: that Twitter topic out to you, which you can be

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Speaker 1: a part of it. Eight three five fifty one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two, five fifty. What position is

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Speaker 1: your dark horse pick for the Bills in Round one

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Speaker 1: of the draft. There are some obvious preferences that we

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Speaker 1: all have. If you had to take a dark horse pick,

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Speaker 1: what position are you going with for the Bills with

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Speaker 1: pick number twenty seven eight three oh five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty the number to

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Speaker 1: get on board. We got to take a break, but

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Speaker 1: we'll be back with your phone calls when we return

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live presented by Kalota Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Position is your dark horse pick for

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Speaker 1: the Bills in Round one of the NFL Draft? We

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Speaker 1: all know that we have our preferred positions that we

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Speaker 1: deem to be of need for the Bills. Whether you

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Speaker 1: want to fill the whole left behind by Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: where you still think they need another receiver to add

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Speaker 1: or you're worried about defensive tackle or still want to

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Speaker 1: improve the ranks as safety. You let us know what

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Speaker 1: your dark horse pick for the Bills is in round

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Speaker 1: one eight oh three oh five fifty the number to

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Speaker 1: get on board one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty the toll free number, or you can hit

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Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones, and leading us off today

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Speaker 1: is Alex in Pittsburgh. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Alex here on one Bills Live. Hey, guys, thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking my call again. My dark horse pick for the

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Speaker 1: Bills would be tight end. I think there's a guy

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Speaker 1: from Georgia, the very Yeah, not know how big he is,

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Speaker 1: but oh he's big, the fire, fire with fire. We

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Speaker 1: got to go all offense. These teams are all offense.

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Speaker 1: On the past couple years, we've been focused on be fense,

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Speaker 1: but I think we should blow it up on offense.

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Speaker 1: And you are best. I want to see what you

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Speaker 1: guys have to say, and um, thanks again for taking

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Speaker 1: my call. Yeah, the guy you're talking about is Darnell Washington.

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Speaker 1: He's the University of Georgia prospect that's in the draft pool.

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Speaker 1: He goes about almost six seven, two hundred and seventy pounds,

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to remember what he ran, but I

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Speaker 1: think he ran in the four four five four. Did

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Speaker 1: he run that fast? I don't know if he ran

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Speaker 1: that fast. No, I'm six six four, so uh. An

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Speaker 1: extraordinary athlete who's still filling out his body. He essentially

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Speaker 1: is a sixth offensive lineman without being one. Um picture

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Speaker 1: Lee Smith, who can run a ton faster. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and man is bigger and a much looser athlete. Yeah, yeah, nope,

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Speaker 1: and he's got he's he's enormous. He's an absolute enormous athlete.

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Speaker 1: He catches the ball extremely well, as you might have

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Speaker 1: matagine because his hands are so big that it looks

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Speaker 1: like he's playing with a nerf ball when he grabs

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Speaker 1: the football. Yeah, he had that great one hand catch

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Speaker 1: in the workout. He's still I think he's still raw.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'd like to sit down. And when

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Speaker 1: you watch him run the forty, I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: done in about nine steps. Yeah, yeah, here's the forty

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Speaker 1: and nine steps. Ye. Most guys thirteen so yeah, actually

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Speaker 1: actually it's eighteen. Was it eighteen eighteen. Okay, um, he

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Speaker 1: probably did it in seventeen. Seriously, the amount of steps

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Speaker 1: to count him. Again, he's he's big, he's a real

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Speaker 1: and yeah, he's intriguing. He's one of those guys like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: look at this guy. Um doesn't mean he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great NFL tight end. It does mean he's got

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Speaker 1: a chance to be big enough and durable enough to

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Speaker 1: play for a long time and be productive. And if

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Speaker 1: his work ethic is there, you got to think as well,

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Speaker 1: he's going to get better and better and better, and

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Speaker 1: with the tools he has, his sealing is virtually limits.

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Speaker 1: Tight End is an interesting dark horse pick too, because

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Speaker 1: it is a very strong tight end class. And Steve

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Speaker 1: and I are going to be talking about this to

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Speaker 1: some extent in our Bills by the Numbers podcast this

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Speaker 1: week because we're kind of assessing how the Bills draft

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00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: needs have changed in the wake of the first set

638
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: of signings in free agency by the Bills. And when

639
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: you think about what could be a dark horse pick,

640
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: tight end is a position that has merit because the

641
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: class is so deep, you might get to a place

642
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: where the Bills Bills might be sitting there at sixty

643
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: one and round two and there's no value at receiver,

644
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: there's no good value at offensive line, and there's no

645
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: good value at middle linebacker. Well what do you fall

646
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: back on best on the board? And know when there

647
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: are a lot of good tight ends in the pool,

648
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: you know somebody's still on the board there that's at

649
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: tight end or corner corners like one of the best

650
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: classes going. And it's not like the Bills are chock

651
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: full of corners on the roster right now. It's basically

652
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: Trey White, Tarn Johnson, Saran Neil, Dane Jackson, and then

653
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: kayre Elam if you're moving Benford to safety, so you

654
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: may man, you could add one there and not go

655
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: wrong either, because they're saying it's the deepest corner class

656
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, so right, I mean there

657
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: there there will be options. It just may not be

658
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: in a position that everybody likes, right, like defensive end. Right,

659
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, it's a good edge rusher class too,

660
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: very good edge rusher class as well. Wouldn't it be

661
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: nice if the Bills got a real great, a great

662
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: ed drusher and nobody cared because the free agency finished, Like,

663
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're going there again. That might be

664
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: the reaction. It would be yeah, and I understand why,

665
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you don't take the best value

666
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: on the board. If that's what it is, Let's go

667
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: to Gary in Lockport next. What do you got for

668
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: is Gary? You're on one Bill's Live. A good afternoon, gentlemen.

669
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm a first time caller and I was yep. I

670
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: was wondering on the receiver group with Buffalo with the

671
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: Shrefield signing. I'd like your opinion on that for what

672
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: he might do for Buffalo. And then Hardy, I see

673
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: that he got number eleven on his jersey, so I

674
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: figured Cole Beasley's gone. And the third question is Jamison Crowder.

675
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: Is Buffalo talking to him and trying to resign him

676
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: at all? I know he was a Bills killer when

677
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: he played for the Jets, so I was just wondering

678
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: if they were going to try and resign him. Okay, yeah,

679
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: we can cover all that. Thanks for the called, Gary,

680
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Let's let's start Steve with the two new guys.

681
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: He wants to know what Shurefield could be for the

682
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: receiving I think Shurefield is a little bit like Jake

683
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: coom role, except probably better on the wide receiver end

684
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: of it. He had his best season as a pro

685
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: last year in Miami when he actually got the opportunity

686
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: to play on offense. He's an excellent special teams player,

687
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: but I think he's a guy who is really trying

688
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: to make away for himself as a wide receiver. He's

689
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: smart enough to know as an undrafted rookie free agent,

690
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: he knew he to stick around. He had to cut,

691
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: he had to do special teams. He had to find

692
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: a way to get on the roster. He did it

693
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: through special teams, but his wide receiving ability seems to

694
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: still be on the uptick. So best case scenario for

695
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: him is he comes in and all of a sudden,

696
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are going, wow, look this guy can play,

697
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: right And I don't think it would be that much

698
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: a surprise for them. I think they think that's a possibility.

699
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: But even if he doesn't, just give them what they've

700
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: already seen as a wide receiver, I think that'll be

701
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: good enough because his special teams play will help him anyway.

702
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: We had him in studio and he said that he

703
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: was still old. He's gonna get some opportunities in the slot,

704
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: which we found interesting because more often than not, this

705
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: offense has used more of their diminutive receivers inside, and

706
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: you understand why Surefield goes six two nineteen. That would

707
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: be a much bigger target for Josh Allen work in

708
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, which is an interesting tweak

709
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: to how they've done it in recent years. And then

710
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: as far as Deontay Hardy goes, Brandon Bean himself said

711
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: they anticipate him sliding into the number four receiver role.

712
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: So if you want to think about what that means,

713
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: think about what Gabe Davis did in his rookie year

714
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty when he was the fourth receiver when

715
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: they still had John Brown, Cole Beasley and Diggs, and

716
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: Davis was the four ended the season with thirty five

717
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: catches for seven touchdowns. I think if Deontay Hardy gives

718
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: them that, they'd be over the moon. But he's also

719
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: going to be their punt returner, presumably in Niheim Hines

720
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: will probably handle kick returns. And as for Crowder, I

721
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: would be less or until Crowder signs with another team.

722
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: I think he's still on the menu for the Buffalo Bills.

723
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: He broke his leg not a serious I mean it

724
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: wasn't like a compound fracture. I mean a broken leg

725
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: is serious. But you would think he'd be able to

726
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: come back from that and be just as good as new.

727
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: So having that behind him, setting that aside, saying he's

728
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: going to be a complete hundred percent recovery from that leg.

729
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: I think he's on the menu for the Buffalo Bills

730
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: until he does or does not sign with him. I

731
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: think they know exactly what it'll take to sign him.

732
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: He may be playing his slow play, waiting for an opportunity.

733
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: Maybe he sees he sees the riding on the wall,

734
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: doesn't see he's coming himself coming back here. But I

735
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: would be surprised if he wasn't on the Bills menu

736
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: of guys to talk to before they go to training camp. Now.

737
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams see him as a

738
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: guy who broke his leg last year and want to

739
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: know about him. But I think that's where they're at.

740
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills would have a problem at

741
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: all signing him to another one. Yeah, find he's healthy.

742
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: Let's go from one Gary to another. We go from

743
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: Gary in Lockport to Gary on a cell. What do

744
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: you got for us? Gary? Hey, guys, how y'all do

745
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: him good? I'm gonna give you three players too. I

746
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: think that you look at it in the dark horse

747
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: like you asked on the question, YEP, I think receiver

748
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: and then the linebackers lost, you know, Edmondson and we

749
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: need other receivers, speak guy, you know, and the wild

750
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: car would be the dark horse, I guess would be

751
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: the running back Robinson from Texas if he's still there. Yeah,

752
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are going gaga for him,

753
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: and I understand why. He's like a physical specimen and

754
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Gary, um, but I remain relatively

755
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: convinced that he is not getting to twenty seven. If

756
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: he is the phenom that everybody thinks he is going

757
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: to be, getting to the bottom of round one just

758
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: flat out is not going to happen, right, Like, I

759
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: don't see any way he gets past twenty, you know

760
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, especially for a Seahawks team. Seahawks

761
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: pick at twenty by the way, they have two picks

762
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: in the first round. They picked somewhere in the early

763
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: teens I think, and then they also pick twenty, and

764
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: they've done a lot to improve their roster. Gino Smith

765
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: is their quarterback for now. They may draft one as well,

766
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: but you want to help their offense even more. They

767
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: put John Robinson in their backfield. That really helps Gino

768
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: Smith out much the way. You know, a player for

769
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: that caliber would obviously help Josh Allen too. But if

770
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: he's as good as they say is, I don't see

771
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: him getting past twenty. Yeah. The problem is go down

772
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: the round one all the way to twenty seven where

773
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: the Bills pick, and there's like six teams that you

774
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: could say, yeah, they could really use a guy like that.

775
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles have two first round picks

776
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: and they just lost Miles Sanders. They got two picks

777
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: in the first round. There's a team that can afford

778
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: to take a back in round one because they have

779
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: another pick in round one as well. So I think

780
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: it'd be hard pressed to see b Sean Robinson get down.

781
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: But if he does, yeah, well then it's a whole

782
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 1: different conversation. We have to take a break here, Mark

783
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: and West Seneca, others holding an eight oh three five

784
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty stay put.

785
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: We're asking you what's your dark horse pick for the

786
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: Bills positionwise in round one of the draft. We're back

787
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: in a minute here on one Bill's Life. All right,

788
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960
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789
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799
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Speaker 1: reopening event on the first, especially with Thurman Thomas there

800
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Speaker 1: from eleven to one, so if you're in the neighborhood,

801
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: swing on by. We got to get back to the

802
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: phones though. At eight oh three, five fifty one eighty eight,

803
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty what position is your dark

804
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: horse pick for the Bills and round one of the draft,

805
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: and we go to Mark in West Seneca next, Hey, Steve,

806
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: a Chris, how are you doing this afternoon? Doing good? Good?

807
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: That's good, great time of year. I love this time

808
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: of year. One thing I just wanted to bring up

809
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: that I trust Brandon being that he's not going to overdraft.

810
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: He typically doesn't overdraft guys, especially in the early rounds.

811
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: You might take a flyer on guys and later rounds,

812
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: but he typically picks guys where they haven't rated properly,

813
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: I believe, And that being said, I don't think a

814
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver is in the cards for the first pick

815
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: because I don't believe there's going to be a guy

816
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: worthy of that picked. I think the guys that are

817
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: first round raiding, they are going to be gone by

818
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: the time we're on the board. So if they're really

819
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: intent on getting a receiver, I think the d Hopkins

820
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: trade is something they really need to pursue hard. That

821
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: being said, so I've got two points. The dark horse

822
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: for me is first round if they don't get a

823
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: trade done, is either going to be offensive right tackle

824
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: or I would love and but this is probably not

825
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: going to be very popular with a lot of people.

826
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: Is Jack Campbell the middle linebacker at Iowa. I absolutely

827
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: love that kid, and I think you fill a position

828
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: need and a hole for five years and maybe longer

829
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: depending on how that plays out. I would love to

830
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: see that. And then I have a question, would that

831
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: d Hopkins trade? People are bantering about on the radio

832
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: station all day today. Some people were pivoting to possibly

833
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: de tackle for the first pick, and from what I understood,

834
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: this is a very weak class for D tackles And

835
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: do you guys have any information or read on that?

836
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: And are there any guys that are worthy of a

837
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: first round pick, much less a late first round pick

838
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: at the D tackle position. So that's what I wanted

839
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: to bring up with you guys. Thanks, no problem, Thanks

840
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: for the call. Mark. I'll begin with the Hopkins thing. Well,

841
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's getting a lot of play because of

842
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: what Daniel Jeremiah said, because he was asked, oh, where

843
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: could you see Hopkins moving if he was traded, and

844
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: he said, oh, well, I think the perfect fit is

845
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: the Bills. Now you got to work out all the money. Well,

846
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: the money is the biggest issue because he's got two

847
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: years left on his contract and still pretty sizable salary.

848
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: So seventeen million this year, fourteen million next, so you

849
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: may have to work something out with the Cardinals where

850
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: they take on and agree to pay some of that

851
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: salary to move the bulk of it off their books.

852
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: Knowing that the Bills with a tight cap situation would

853
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: be hard pressed to fit that kind of money under

854
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: their cap as it currently exists. They would probably have

855
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: to clip two or three players off their roster to

856
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: make that happen, unless they're sending dollars out with players

857
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: in a trade instead of draft capital. So that's a

858
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: possibility too, which would then facilitate such a move. Yeah,

859
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: they moved. The Jack Campbell thing is you're not alone

860
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: in that. You said you thought it might be, you

861
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: might be by yourself. You're not by yourself. There's a

862
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: lot of people who are telling the Bills to take

863
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: a linebacker, and there's a couple of them available. Jack

864
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: Campbell's probably the first of which would be a guy

865
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: that mimics the physicality, the physical attributes of Tremaine Edmonds.

866
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: He's not as fast in the open field, like a

867
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: forty yard dash, but everything else is very similar. He's

868
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: not quite the condor that Tremaine is, but he is that.

869
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: He's a six five guy, very tall and good range

870
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: and all that, so he got all that stuff going

871
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: for him. So yeah, you're not crazy for saying Jack

872
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Campbell of Iowa being a dark horse pick. Yeah. And

873
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: then with respect to the defensive tackle class, I mean

874
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: I would say that you've got Jalen Carter, even though

875
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: he's got some off the field issues, is still your

876
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: best prospect. He's going to be still going to go

877
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: in the top ten somewhere, even with some of the

878
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: awards he has off the field, especially with the latest

879
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: racing incident that you know, he already adjudicated and got

880
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: a year probation, no jail time, so that's good for him,

881
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: But after that there is a drop off. Now you

882
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: can find some capable players, but where they're going to

883
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: come off the board is anybody's guess. You know, I

884
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: know that you've got a guy that's rising here late

885
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: from Pitt, Elijah Cancy. He's under size though he's only

886
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: two eighty one and goes six one naturally coming out

887
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: of pit. People are making Aaron Donald comparisons because he

888
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: played at PITT. I don't know that they wash for

889
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 1: me having seen him on tape. An intriguing player who's

890
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: also undersized is tuly to a polo two at a

891
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: USC he's only two hundred and sixty six pounds. I

892
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: think he's more of a five technique and a three four,

893
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: so I don't know that he fits a four three defense.

894
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: But yes, for the most part, you are correct. It

895
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: is not a great draft for defensive tackles. Now, Mazi

896
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 1: Smith is a guy who for me fits the bill

897
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle Ota Michigan. He's six three three twenty

898
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: three and he is an immovable object. So where does

899
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: he go? That's hard to say. The reason why is

900
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: if you draft him, you're going purely on potential because

901
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: his production was not anything to write home about during

902
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: the course of his college career. And when there isn't

903
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: a body of work that looks good on paper, it

904
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: does cause concern for teams because they want to see

905
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: that you've done it before. You know, especially at a

906
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: big ten Power five conference level. If you've done it

907
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: before there, they feel good about making the projection of

908
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: you doing it in the NFL. He hasn't done that

909
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: consistently enough, so there are consistency concerns. But as far

910
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: as body type, physical ability, it's all there for Mazzie

911
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: Smith at six three three twenty three. But you've got

912
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: other guys as well that are further down the pecking order.

913
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: A guy like like out of smaller school like Western Kentucky.

914
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: A guy like Broderick Martin. He's an enormous got six five,

915
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: three thirty seven and shows some promise, but he's a

916
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: guy who is physically will be able to impose his

917
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: will even at the NFL level. But he's one of

918
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: those guys you don't have to work on him. He's

919
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: got technique, he's got to work on, you know, all

920
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: that stuff. So you're gonna you have to look the guy.

921
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: This is one of those guys where you'd love to

922
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: sit down with him and find out the kind of

923
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: kid he is, can find out the kind of man

924
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: he is, what he's made of before you actually draft

925
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: him in how high you're gonna draft him. You don't

926
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: want to invest all that money into a guy that

927
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: plays football just because he doesn't have anything else to do. Um,

928
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: you need a guy that's really committed. But there are

929
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: guys like that out there. And for me, I knowing

930
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: what I know about the Buffalo Bills, I go down

931
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: and I look at traits and then I weave them

932
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: out from there. Um, which means I don't really go

933
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: to the guys even if they're at the top of

934
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: the board, like Mazie Smith because he's undersized. Um, I

935
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: go to the guys that are six five three three

936
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: bills plus. Yeah, Mosi Smith is big enough, he's six three.

937
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: Elijah Canzy you were thinking, and o'klann or the kid

938
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: from from Northwestern, he's a little undersize, he's an edge guy. Um.

939
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's where I start. If you want to go,

940
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: go straight to the defensive time, non defensive line as

941
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: a whole, just defensive tackles, and you'll start to weed

942
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: out guys that maybe have a shot at being there

943
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: when the Bills pick. Break time for us here, but

944
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: our number two will be more draft oriented as we

945
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: catch up with NFL Draft analyst John Ledgard will join

946
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: us and our number two here on One Bills Live

947
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 1: presented by Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio Lease these

948
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 1: one bills Live presented by Callide to Health. Our number

949
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: two here on Wednesday, Chris Brown Steve to asking what

950
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: you please to be joined now by the host of

951
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: the Audibles and Analytics podcast at his NFL Draft analyst

952
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: John Ledger joining us. John, how you been. I've been good, guys.

953
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to join you every time around

954
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: this this time of the year, and got the draft

955
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: coming up free agency. You're not quite in the hindsight,

956
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: but a lot of the big moves are done, and

957
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to break it all down with you all.

958
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: You know, the big name in the draft class from

959
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: the jump, aside from quarterbacks, was and has been Jalen Carter.

960
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: Then the off the field stuff kind of comes to light.

961
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: He gets it adjudicated in short order, but then his

962
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: pro day does not go well, John. I mean, he's

963
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: nine pounds heavier, he can't even finish all the drills

964
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: because he's winded. I mean, he really didn't help himself

965
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: at his own pro day. The question for you is

966
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: how far do you think he could slide because he's

967
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: still a supreme talent in what is considered to be

968
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: a pretty subpard defensive class. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think

969
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: that's the big concern is the stuff that we maybe

970
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: don't have the vision into. You know, we're not going

971
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: to know what those meetings are like necessarily as the

972
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: team sits down and talks with them and things like that.

973
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be not that big of a

974
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: concern to teams, or it could be a fall you know,

975
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: similar to you know how laray Mee Tunsel went through,

976
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, where there's this level of unknown and stuff.

977
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: And I think nobody doubts Carter's play on the field

978
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: from this past season. I think it's pretty clear he's

979
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: the best player in the class on tape, But the

980
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: other stuff and the concerns there. You might take that

981
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: risk at quarterback, you might take it at edge rusher.

982
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: Are you going to take that risk at defensive tackle?

983
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the question teams are gonna have to

984
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: ask themselves. But in terms of the package on the field, yeah,

985
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean this his floor might be Quinnon Williams, you know,

986
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: you cant his ceiling could be higher than that. I

987
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: think he's the real deal there. But if you're not

988
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: committed to the game and there are these other distractions

989
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: and these other issues that he's going to have, then

990
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: that could derail his career entirely. And it's even in

991
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: a class like this that doesn't have much premium talent

992
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: at the top. I think give me hard for teams

993
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: to take that risk. Do you think he says the

994
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: order of the draft, the top ten or so or

995
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: top twenty stays intact. I mean, there's possibility that teams

996
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: will move up for one of those quarterbacks. But if

997
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: if Arizona comes up at three, is he does he

998
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: fall past them? Yeah? I think I wouldn't it? Definitely could.

999
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's a possibility he could fall out of

1000
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: the top ten, I think, But we just won't know,

1001
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: like until we start hearing more about how teams are

1002
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: feeling about the whole thing and where the credibility that

1003
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: they have in terms of the interviews they've done with them,

1004
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: to sit downs, those kind of things, the background research,

1005
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: talking to Georgia coaching staff, like all that stuff is

1006
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: going to be the determiner, right, And that's the hard

1007
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: thing with a prospect like Carter is that wall watch

1008
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: him and think he's great. We only hear what the

1009
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: little bit of tippets that are in the news. We've

1010
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: not coached him or played with him or any of

1011
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: those things, and so there'll be a level of insight

1012
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: teams have into him. And if he does start sliding,

1013
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, he could he slide into the

1014
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: teams if he slides to the teams, Like, what are

1015
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: the odds that the concerns aren't very real because a

1016
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: lot of teams that could use them are passing up

1017
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: on him at that point, and you start to get

1018
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: concerned that if a team takes them, they haven't done

1019
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: their homework as much. Yeah, I mean, and I know

1020
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned one guy, Laramie Tunsel that slid. I'm kind

1021
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: of thinking of Warren Sap. I remember when he slid,

1022
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: and he was considered just as good a defensive tackle

1023
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: prospect as Carter was, and he went all the way

1024
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: down to twelve, which I think surprising people. There were

1025
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: people out there trying to sabotage his drafts. It's interesting too,

1026
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: because both those guys, Laramie Tunsol who famously had the

1027
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: gas mask video pop up on draft Day, and then

1028
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: of course Sap getting you know, having the same kind

1029
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: of problems where he's you know, they thought he was.

1030
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: He showed up some of the interviews high you know,

1031
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: when he was a draft. Sap is in the Hall

1032
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: of Fame. Laramie Tunsel just signed a gazillion dollar contract.

1033
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, It's kind of like you're talking about of

1034
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: both sides of your mouth. Some of these guys, You're right,

1035
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: they do have some problems, but man, oh man, if

1036
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: you get the right guy who cares about the problems,

1037
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer on defensive line, that kind

1038
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: of stuff goes on, right. Yeah. I mean, you could

1039
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: be dealing with the situation, you know, like a Malik

1040
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: McDowell like type level, where like he was supposed to

1041
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: be top ten pick but all the way to the

1042
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: second round, barely even ever played in the NFL, And

1043
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: injuries were part of it, but character was a big

1044
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: part of it as well. And you know, I think

1045
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: you could be looking at that type of situation or

1046
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: a situation like Zapp that he ends up going on

1047
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: to have a great career display all the concerns that

1048
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: are out there, and that's all in the cards for Carter.

1049
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, it's the part of draft evaluation that's so

1050
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: difficult from the vantage point where we're just trying to

1051
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: find the best players and you hear all these things

1052
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, how does that impact how I feel

1053
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: about whether a team should take him or not, because

1054
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: we're just not gonna have the same insight the team's

1055
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: doing so there's a level of unknown there we have

1056
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: to be comfortable with as evaluators to just say, look,

1057
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: I know he's an unbelievable football player and that's all

1058
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: I can see, and there's a lot that I can't see,

1059
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: and if that's what dooms him in the end, I'll

1060
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: take the l in my evaluation. But as a football player,

1061
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: he's outstanding and hopefully the to the stuff and get

1062
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: sorted out. Looking at what the Bills have done in

1063
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: free agency as far as new players on the roster,

1064
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: they've gone heavy offense. You know, they've got an offensive lineman,

1065
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: two receivers, are running back in a backup quarterback that

1066
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: they added to the fray. I mean, the only new

1067
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: defensive player they added to the roster was a special

1068
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: team safety by the name is Zane Anderson from Kansas City.

1069
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: Everybody else has been on the offensive side of the ball. Now.

1070
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: I know they resigned Jordan Poyard and Dane Jackson and

1071
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: a couple other defensive players that were on their roster already,

1072
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: But do you think that that shifts the conversation as

1073
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: to what the Bills might do in the draft going

1074
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: so offense heavy in free agency to this point, he

1075
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: could for sure. I mean, I think they're just looking

1076
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver just in general. Like I don't

1077
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: know whether that's going to happen early in the draft

1078
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: or middle to drift later in the draft, you know,

1079
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: But I think there's no way they watched last season

1080
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: and didn't come away with the conclusion that. I mean,

1081
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: they clearly they made all these moves right even in

1082
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: the season. They're kind of desperation moves, getting Kinkle Beasley

1083
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: help us out, like and some of these, you know,

1084
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: the little things that we do on the peripherals John Brown,

1085
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: like it's any of these things help us out, I think,

1086
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: And obviously those didn't do the trick. But I think

1087
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: they know going They've got a full sample size of

1088
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis to know that there's limitations there, Like you

1089
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: gotta get another playmaker around Stefan Diggs. That's hard to

1090
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: do right now in free agency because there aren't a

1091
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of good wide receivers hitting the market, and it

1092
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: could depend on the type of receiver they want as well.

1093
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: I personally, I don't know if they have I saw

1094
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: a report today. I don't remember if they're one of

1095
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: the teams mentioned, but I think DeAndre Hopkins makes a

1096
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: lot of sense. When you're in a win now window

1097
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: like the Bills are in and they need to put

1098
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: those roster over the top, it's tough to put those

1099
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: eggs in the basket of a rookie wide receiver, especially

1100
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: in this class where it isn't as good as some

1101
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: of the past classes where a guy could have jumped

1102
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: in and been a big time contributor right away. So

1103
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: to me, that's the biggest neat Like if I were

1104
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: the Bills and I'm looking at the roster and I'm

1105
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: just saying we can they can get better at other positions, certainly,

1106
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about those positions, But I'm just a

1107
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Another playmaking wider receiver. They can get open

1108
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: at all levels of the field, that can make tough

1109
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: contested catches, that can work well with Josh Allen and

1110
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs in the way that they like to play,

1111
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: that can accentually because some of their strengths. To me,

1112
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: that could put this team over the top where they

1113
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: can have a weakness on the old line and it

1114
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: might be overcome by just having that other playmaker a

1115
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is there because we've been talking about DeAndre

1116
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: Hopkins in Buffalo for a while, maybe for three years,

1117
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: ever since he caught the hail murray against the Bills

1118
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: on two nineteen or twenty eighteen. Yeah, so it's been

1119
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: one of those things where Bill's fans remember this guy

1120
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: and he's still highly productive. Who else, I mean, is

1121
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: there another receiver even a trade for a trade who

1122
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: would be more because he's due to make seventeen million

1123
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: this year, fourteen million next year. If you trade for him,

1124
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: your financial's gotta be a little bit better than what

1125
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: the Bills are right now, right, And so there would

1126
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: need to be something worked out. And the Cardinals are

1127
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: also going to have to be a team, and it

1128
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: comes to grips with the fact that they're not going

1129
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: to get what they hope to get for Like if

1130
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna get a first I'll picked

1131
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: for him, look at the marker right now. It's just

1132
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: not gonna happen, I don't think. And so they're gonna

1133
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: have to come to grips with that, which should take

1134
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: a while, and Buffalo would would behoove them, I think,

1135
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: to stay patient with that. Yeah, it's difficult to figure

1136
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: out if they were going to go to the trade

1137
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: route at this point, who could maybe be available that

1138
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: would be in that same van. You know, some of

1139
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: these things materialize late, but right now it does feel

1140
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: like things are pretty settled. And you know, DJ Moore

1141
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: would have been another one. I said, hey, look into that,

1142
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: like if they're trying to move him, but that because

1143
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: they didn't want to pay him. But that seems that

1144
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: chip is sailed now with him going to Chicago. So

1145
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: there are a few options, you know, and maybe that

1146
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: does play to the Cardinals advantage if they're trying to

1147
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: trade Hopkins. You could go to the draft, though, I mean,

1148
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: there are definitely good players. It's possible Jackson Smith and

1149
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: Jigba who worked out today and I thought looked great

1150
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: and his tape is really good, and I think if

1151
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: he had played this past year that people would have

1152
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot less concerns about him. He could be an

1153
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: interesting fit there as well. Somebody who's kind of like

1154
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: a way better version of Beasley when Beasley was in

1155
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: his prime in Buffalo, offers a lot more in terms

1156
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: of down the field elusiveness after the catch of those

1157
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: kinds of things. There are options in the draft. You

1158
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: don't need a number one, and that's what's nice for Buffalo.

1159
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: They have one of the top receivers in the NFL

1160
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: in Stefon Dix. He is a guy you can run

1161
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: your passing offense through at all levels of the field

1162
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: and he can make an impact. You just have to

1163
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: get complimentary threats around him so that a defense can't

1164
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: just focus on him. I think they can do that

1165
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: without going crazy with this trade. And just the fact

1166
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: that Hopkins asking the asking price for Hopkins maybe on

1167
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: the way down, is what would really interest me. In

1168
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: that he's thirty and obe thirty one this summer, I

1169
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: get it like he has maybe started to slow down

1170
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: a little bit. I still think he's a really good

1171
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: player who you could get another good, really strong year

1172
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: or two out of. And if you get him for

1173
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: a Day three pick, then I think you make the

1174
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: financials work. Yeah. I mean, Brandon Cooks went for a

1175
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: five and a six to Dallas, so that's kind of

1176
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: where the markets set right now. Maybe you get a

1177
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: little more for a player of Hopkins caliber, but not

1178
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: a ton more, And then so you try to balance

1179
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: that John against the receiver class this year, which as

1180
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned, is not as strong as the last couple

1181
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: of years or as deep. And that's why we're not

1182
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: getting any kind of consensus on the top of the

1183
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: class because some people think, oh, Clinton Johnson is going

1184
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: to be the first guy off the board. Size speed player.

1185
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's hard to find, and you know it

1186
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: can break away from defenses and take it sixty yards

1187
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: to the house. And then other people are like, no, no, no,

1188
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: you want the best route runner in the class. You

1189
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: want Smith and Jake, but he's going to be first

1190
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: off the board. I mean three weeks ago, Clinton Johnston

1191
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: was off everybody's mock draft by pick fourteen or fifteen.

1192
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: Now we got mocks coming out. He's going to the

1193
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: Bills at twenty seven. What the hell's going on, john Yeah,

1194
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: it's a there's a lot of uncertainty in this class

1195
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: of wide receiver, you know. And it's possible Addison did

1196
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: test his way out of the first round. There aren't

1197
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: not there's not a ton of precedent for a wide

1198
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: res year with his athletic size limitation combination being taken

1199
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: in the first round. In the second round, I think

1200
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: that there's plenty of AMMO for that, and I think

1201
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: he probably will go in that range. I do think

1202
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba, probably Quentin Johnson, for the teams that

1203
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: cove at the size, speed factors and kind of base

1204
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 1: a lot of wide receiver evaluations off of those things

1205
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: in this class, they're gonna feel like we've got to

1206
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: get that guy. This is a small wide receiver class.

1207
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of guys with that kind of

1208
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: size speed combination that he has, especially the tape that

1209
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: he has now. I think there's plenty of concerns with

1210
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: Johnston's tape. I don't think he's a great route runner.

1211
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he has great hands. I wish that

1212
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: he played bigger at the catchpoint, and he does not.

1213
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 1: Can those things be learned? I mean that some team

1214
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: is going to roll the dice and try and find out.

1215
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: I would not want to be the team taking that chance.

1216
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: To me, Smith and Jigba just there is a way

1217
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: higher floorier and I don't have the ceiling. Yeah, sure

1218
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: it's not you know, probably a top tier wide receiver

1219
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, he probably wouldn't be in

1220
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: that conversation with the Digs. But could he be a

1221
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: tier two guy? Could he be Keenan Allen in the NFL.

1222
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't see why not. I don't see why that

1223
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: couldn't be in the cards for somebody like Smith and Jigba.

1224
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: So to me, that's the guy you'd want to roll

1225
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: the dice with. I think when you watched him on

1226
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: tape when he was healthy. Again, A lot of this

1227
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: is recency bias, Like if he had played more this

1228
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: past season with the quarterback situation that they had there

1229
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: and to other pieces that they had, he would have

1230
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: put up unbelievable numbers and people would be a lot

1231
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: more confident in it. He did it the year before.

1232
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: It's only because of the injury and we haven't seen

1233
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: him in a while. And oh, maybe he's not the

1234
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: best athlete, and I think those things are fair, and

1235
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's not an elite athlete

1236
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: again could keep him out of Tier one. But where

1237
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: is that line. He's still a fine athlete. We've seen

1238
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: that for sure. In the short air. Quickness is very real,

1239
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: the hands are real. He's smart. He's a heady player

1240
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: who's going to be able to come in right away

1241
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: and make an impact. That's important for a team like Buffalo.

1242
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: So to me, he'd be the kind of guy I

1243
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: would target a flour Buffalo. Some of these other guys

1244
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: I think could take a little while to develop fully

1245
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: or could perhaps just be a little bit limited, like

1246
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers good player. Is he going to be a

1247
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: specific role early on in his career where he's kind

1248
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: of like a gadget guy, maybe a speed guy, a

1249
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: low volume receiver, but you can't count on him every down.

1250
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: I just think, if you're Buffalo, something you need to

1251
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: think about and why Smith and Jib was a guy

1252
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: you could bring in. I think he could play all

1253
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: three downs in all situations right away. Yeah, And if

1254
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: but in Jigbert at twenty seven, he may well be

1255
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: long gone by that time. How far down do you

1256
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: go on this list and thinking about what Buffalo really needs.

1257
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: They've got Steph Diggs, who's as an elite number one,

1258
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: They've got a crew of of you know, Gabe Davis,

1259
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: is there this rookie? They would not need this guy

1260
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: to come in and be an alpha dog they wanted

1261
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: to be to fit into a place on this offense,

1262
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: even with you know, grabbing some slot receivers like Deontay

1263
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: Hardy from New Orleans and some of the you know,

1264
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: a surefield from Miami. They've got some extra names. Now

1265
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: to think about how many how far down the list

1266
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: would you have to go, I don't know, maybe just

1267
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: to get a guy at twenty seven where you wouldn't

1268
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Speaker 1: have to go, wow, they really reached for that guy

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Speaker 1: at twenty seven, even though the guy may turn out

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Speaker 1: to be exactly what they were asking for. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the question. I mean, the Bills could very well look

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01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: and say, okay, we've got some pieces here, and we

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01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: just a guy like Jalen Hyatt who can stretch the

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: field and be a vertical threat. And if he creates,

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01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, ten deep ball touchdowns for us or deep

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01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: ball big plays for us in the year, even if

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01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of their growing pains, if he's will

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Speaker 1: fuller in his prime for us, then that's worth it

1279
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: for us in the window that we're in. Given this draft,

1280
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,959
Speaker 1: which again is I don't think it's the best draft

1281
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: class in the world. They've already spent some at some

1282
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: of the positions that this class is the strongest in,

1283
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: namely edge rusher and cornerback, and so maybe they don't

1284
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: feel as incentivized to go that route again in this

1285
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: draft I mean, you can never have enough of those guys,

1286
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: but it certainly seems like they have some answers there.

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: They want to work through this season and give playing

1288
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: time too, So in this draft they may say, you

1289
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Speaker 1: know what, we know there's limitations there and he may

1290
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: not be an every down type of player for us,

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: but Jalen Hyatt might be worth it. It could also

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Speaker 1: go the other way. You know, I didn't mention this

1293
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: name before, but Jerry Judy, you know, if the Broncoes,

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Speaker 1: the rumor is they're asking for a first round pick

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 1: or a high second for him and a player maybe

1296
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: as well. And that's the last reports I've seen on it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the skill set would be really fun in Buffalo.

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01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: I'd concerned with the drops. I'm concerned with the inconsistencies,

1299
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: and I'm concerned with the fact that he doesn't seem

1300
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: to be able to stay fully healthy and on the field,

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 1: so there are concerns there. I certainly wouldn't be paying

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: that asking price for him, but it bron Goes clearly

1303
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: haven't gotten anybody to pay that asking price, so it

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01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: could be that they're willing to come down on that.

1305
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: And if you're Buffalo I think you just this is

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: the missing pep, Like getting another guy who can be

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01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: a threat in your offense, to me, is really one

1308
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: of the big missing pieces for them. I think the defense,

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01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, talent wise, has a lot of pieces there

1310
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: and you can add to that and hopefully you will

1311
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: in this draft class, but you need a guy at

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01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver who can impact right away, I think, And

1313
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: so maybe that's Judy. Maybe it's like, Okay, we're gonna

1314
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: piece it together and build it like a basketball team,

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a bunch of different types, and

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring in a guy like Johnston to be

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: our big body guy down the field and hopefully that

1318
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: he starts play into his size a little bit more.

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01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: There could be a couple of different approaches here because

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: they already have a number one, but they get still

1321
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: really important that they focus a lot of their resources

1322
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Speaker 1: and attention on those options. Last one I've got for you, John,

1323
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: Let's just say hypothetically a trade is not made, they

1324
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: don't get a veteran difference maker to come in and

1325
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: be like a true number two to Digs, and the

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: class and the value doesn't line up for the Bills

1327
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: in terms of taking a receiver that would fit that mold.

1328
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: It's a really good tight end class. Is there anybody

1329
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: in the tight end class that Brandon being could pivot

1330
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: too and maybe still fulfill what is missing in the

1331
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: passing game? I mean, I know Kim Kaid is a

1332
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: popular name. Is it just him as the only guy

1333
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: that might be able to fill that kind of a bill? Yeah,

1334
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: Kinkaid is the top option in my opinion. I think

1335
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: he's the best tight end in the class. There has

1336
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: been some in my mind, there are some comparisons just

1337
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the way that he moves in

1338
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: the way that he plays, stylistic comparison, not career projection comparison,

1339
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: I'll be clear. To Travis Kelsey, there's definitely some of

1340
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: that that exists. Zach Ertz maybe as well. But I'd

1341
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: say Kincaid's just ability to be so crafty after the

1342
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: catch and create for his team after the catch, that's

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: something Buffalo could really benefit from, I think. And that

1344
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: brings me also to the second name on my list

1345
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: to me, Sam Laporta from Iowa. I know he's a

1346
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: little bit down further on the list you have there,

1347
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 1: and then most people's tight end rankings, he's probably like

1348
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: fifth or six. For me, he's second. I think that

1349
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: he is a dynamic player after the catch. He proved

1350
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: of the combine the athleticism. Ut a c on tape

1351
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: is no joke. This reminds some people of Josh Allen situation,

1352
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: But he played in Iowa and one of the worst

1353
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: offenses of the country, with no other skill around him.

1354
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: He was the guy. They lined him up at wide receiver.

1355
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,839
Speaker 1: He beat cornerbacks. He can't beat press coverage on the outside.

1356
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: He had double moves on cornerbacks getting vertically. He is

1357
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: unbelievable after the catch. Believe he broke twenty tackles after

1358
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: the catch this past season, which is crazy for a

1359
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: college tight end. You just do not see that. His

1360
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: catch and run against Kentucky is one of the best

1361
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: I've ever seen from a tight end in college football.

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01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he comes from Iowa and

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're not a develop tight ends pretty

1364
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: well there. So I think his best football could be

1365
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: ahead of him. The fact that he was able to

1366
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: be productive consistently in an environment where everything was against him. Basically,

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01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 1: I think he would really be a stud in Buffalo

1368
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: and Knox is still a good player. He hasn't maybe

1369
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: White reach the peaks. That's some hope for him after

1370
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: the strong start that he had there. But I still

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01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: think he's an ascending good player. So to have a

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Speaker 1: combination of the two of them like that, both of whom,

1373
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: by the way, we'd say we're better in the NFL

1374
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: than in their college environments, I think Buffalo could be

1375
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: onto something if they were to look at Laporta. Well, John,

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: thanks for the time. As always, we appreciate it. We

1377
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: know he'll have your ear to the ground leading up

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Speaker 1: to the draft. Here we'll catch up with you down

1379
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: the line. Thanks again, Thanks John, Absolutely, guys, thanks so

1380
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Speaker 1: much for having me. All right. That's John Ledyard, NFL

1381
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: draft analyst and also a host of the Audibles and

1382
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: Analytics podcast. I just wonder about making that kind of

1383
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: a pivot. You know, your you don't have a lot

1384
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: of cap space, So if you can't shift dollars out

1385
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 1: for dollars in for a trade for a veteran receiver,

1386
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: and then you get to the draft and the value

1387
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: doesn't line up when you're on the clock at receiver,

1388
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: I just wonder about pivoting to tight end and maybe

1389
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: getting similar kind of addition to your passing game. And

1390
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with John a little bit on

1391
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta. He intrigued me as well. I don't know

1392
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: if I would consider him the second best tight end

1393
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: in the class, but there is some talent there that

1394
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: can boost and be a shot in the arm for

1395
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: your passing game, and then a whole cornucopia of opportunities

1396
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: open up for your offensive coordinator and Ken Dorsey if

1397
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: you have two tight ends that can run, catch and block.

1398
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: He had matching seasons as junior and senior, fifty three

1399
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: catches in both those seasons. As a junior he had

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Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy yards. As a senior he had

1401
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: five hundred and ninety two yards. Played a ton right

1402
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: from the get go it at Iowa played twelve games

1403
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: as a freshman, so he you know, he can get

1404
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: on the field. And I think that's one of the

1405
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: things about a player like this, even at a young age,

1406
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: and not for nothing, but we're reading about all these guys.

1407
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: He's been playing tight end forever, you know, so he's

1408
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: not raw, he's not you know, learning the position. He's

1409
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: not a converted quarterback or converted receiver. He's a tight end, yeah,

1410
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: and he can drive guys off the line. I mean,

1411
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 1: I've watched enough of his games. A pretty loose athlete

1412
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: is talented enough to double move defenders as a tight

1413
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: end in the passing game. But he also can drive

1414
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: guys off the line of scrimmage. We know, you know

1415
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: the Farrens coach Farrens his history there of developing offensive lineman.

1416
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: You'd like to think that the tight ends are getting

1417
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: the same kind of schooling, you know, if they're lining

1418
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: up on the line of scrimmage as far as blocking goes, right, Yeah,

1419
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: So that he is intriguing. Laporta is, and I it's

1420
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: not to hear a guy like Ledyard. I like these

1421
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: guys who say no, everybody's got him. Further down, I

1422
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: like this guy and give you some specific reasons as

1423
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 1: to why. And the double move thing in the secondary

1424
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: and splitting him out as a wide out getting open

1425
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: against corners. That's big because you've got a guy who's

1426
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: playing against better athletes and still getting them. Um. I

1427
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: got a nice stiff arm too. I wrote that in

1428
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: my note There you go, some good stiff arm to

1429
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: get extra yards. So I'm gonna we'll put him on

1430
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: the whiteboard. Is Sam Laporta not just on the watch list,

1431
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: not on the watch not as not as a guy had.

1432
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting to see where he comes off,

1433
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: because if there's a run on tight ends, maybe you

1434
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: have to consider him at sixty one, you know, not

1435
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: eighty nine in round three? You know what I mean? Right,

1436
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: And there's a run. And I'll say this too, when

1437
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: you get up into the sixties, into the second or

1438
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: third round, third, third round, it's hard to say anybody's

1439
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: a reach, really hard. It's just they see something in

1440
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: the guy that makes him exactly what they're looking for

1441
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: in those rounds because it starts to get further and

1442
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: further down from how much work you've done on all

1443
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: these guys. And I think, yeah, but that's what happened

1444
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: when the Bills took Dawson Knox. There was a run

1445
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: on tight ends. The Bills didn't have a third round pick.

1446
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: They're sitting there in the fourth round and Dawson Knox

1447
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: is the only tight end they like left right, and

1448
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: Brandon's like, we gotta go up there and get them,

1449
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: and so they traded up a full round into the

1450
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: third to take Dawson and it panned out. So just

1451
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: something to think about if the receiver value isn't there.

1452
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: We got to take a break, but we're back to

1453
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls when we return. David Clarence

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: and others holding at eight O three oh five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Hang tight, we'll get to you when we return. Heround

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01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right back here on one Bills Live.

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01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: Before we get back to the phones, there is some

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 1: AFC East free agency news. The New York Jets have

1460
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: signed Kansas City free agent wide receiver McCole Hardman. So

1461
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: the Jets signing the free agent receiver to what we

1462
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: expect to be a one year deal, so the Jets

1463
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: had a little more speed to their receiving corps. Hardman

1464
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: was injury riddled this past season, so it didn't really

1465
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: put up a ton of production for the Chiefs this

1466
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: past year, only twenty five receptions for two hundred ninety

1467
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: seven yards and four touchdowns. Had a bad hip and

1468
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: groin injury that kept them out for about half the season.

1469
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: But an ad to their receiving corps. And you gotta

1470
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: believe Hardman's going there banking on Aaron Rodgers showing up.

1471
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: If not, I think mcole Hardman's gonna be pretty annoyed. Well, yeah,

1472
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: interesting because when Aaron Rodgers shows up, we all, I

1473
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of are we resigned to that. I think we

1474
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: are right, We're at we're thinking it's a win, not

1475
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: a n if right exactly when is big though? Well

1476
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: correct very although he does know the offense walking in

1477
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: the door because he ran it with Hackett in his offense. Yeah, okay,

1478
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: so it's not going to be a learning to say that.

1479
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: I want to see it. No, I get you. New

1480
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: York is not Green Bay, Wisconsin. It is not. It

1481
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: is far. There's gonna be it. It is gonna be

1482
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: an absolute circus. Oh three rings, Oh my gosh. Guy

1483
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: with the top hat, the lion tamer with the whip,

1484
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and a car with fifteen clowns in it.

1485
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: That's right, half of whom are probably on the roster. Um,

1486
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

1487
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five fifty

1488
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: What position is your dark horse pick for the bills

1489
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: in round one of the NFL Draft. We go to

1490
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: Dave and Clarence next, who's been waiting patiently? What do

1491
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: you got for his? Dave? Hey, guys, great show at

1492
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: Huge Wolf. Thanks. Hardman's signing with the Jets only comes

1493
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: of confirms what I've been thinking. The Dolphins Jets have

1494
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 1: really improved and they're hot on our trail. Now, I would,

1495
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: at all costs go for the top wide receiver in

1496
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: the draft, even if I have, even if the Bills

1497
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: have to move up to get him, whoever it is.

1498
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: And the reason I say this is because the window

1499
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: of opportunity for us, I believe is that best three years,

1500
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: which takes us to twenty twenty six. Now, I don't

1501
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: want to happen to Josh and the Bills what happened

1502
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: to Green Bay season or two of goal where they

1503
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: traded away DeVante Adams and they didn't bring in any

1504
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver help for Rogers and the Packers suffered for it.

1505
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: If we don't get a top number two to help

1506
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: Josh out, even with the guys we signed already, I

1507
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: think we're going to be at a deficit in the

1508
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: AFC East because teams are figuring out how to cover

1509
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: and take away, um, Diggs, So we've got to give

1510
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: Josh all the healthy needs. If we don't, I think

1511
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: the windows opportunity will close on them. I'd like to

1512
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. Yeah, thanks, Dave. Yes, you always want

1513
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: to win, and you want to win as many as

1514
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: you can every year. And the Bills are certainly in

1515
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: that mode. Is particularly Josh, Who's right, Who's just you know,

1516
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: is sitting in his prime and making Hay, no question

1517
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: about it. Diggs is right there as well. You've got

1518
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: these guys that are just doing it. You got Tradavious

1519
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: White lined up, you got your left tackle lined up,

1520
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: you got you know, all that stuff. You got some

1521
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: pieces in place, no question, I am not. I'm not

1522
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: in a spot where I think it's all are bust

1523
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 1: right now. Here's the thing, and I've they're good enough now.

1524
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: They were good enough last year up until the time

1525
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, the DeMar thing happened. They were gonna enough

1526
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: the year before and the year before that. So they're

1527
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna continue to be right there. They're gonna try and

1528
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: make moves that give them a chance to get over

1529
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: the hump, no question about it. But they've got the

1530
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: horses in the barn already that can pull that wagon

1531
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: over the hump. They just gotta play well on that day.

1532
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: They have done everything. They do everything right consistently. That

1533
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it all goes right. That doesn't mean every

1534
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,839
Speaker 1: draft pick hits. That doesn't mean that even a majority

1535
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: of their draft picks hit. That's just the way the

1536
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: NFL is for everybody. Sometime you see a team like

1537
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: the Jets last year, who it falls just right for him,

1538
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: and bang, bang bang, they get three guys that are

1539
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: really good right out of the gate. They got the

1540
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year, the defensive rookie of the year.

1541
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 1: You think the Jets are gonna do that this year.

1542
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: There ain't no way. It's just not the way it works.

1543
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: So they're gonna keep on keeping on and one of

1544
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: these years, you gotta think on that game they're gonna

1545
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: play well enough to get to advance. But that's what

1546
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: it takes. It's not I mean this stuff here at

1547
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: this time of year, it's fun to think about, and

1548
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 1: it's fun to you know, you think, I gotta keep it. Listen,

1549
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: the window is open. I mean, I mean this stuff.

1550
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: I hear it all the time. About man, the window

1551
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: is gonna close, is closing? That window is still wide open.

1552
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nothing has changed for this team from

1553
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: last year to this year, and nothing needed to change.

1554
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: They want thirteen games and the three games they lost

1555
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: were flukes. That's what you need to think about. Just

1556
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: don't drop stupid games. When you're up seventeen going in

1557
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter against the Vikings, just don't do that.

1558
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: Don't wilt in the heat in Miami and lose to

1559
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: a team that can't find its own helmet by two

1560
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: after they butt punted into their own end zone. You

1561
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: can't lose to teams like that. Just don't do that.

1562
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: You're good enough now. Don't give me this windows stuff.

1563
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: This team is a This team is a wrecking crew,

1564
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: and they still they're gonna be this year too. Just

1565
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: play good on that game day. Just give me that

1566
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: game when you need it, Like that Baltimore playoff game

1567
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Give me tarn Johnson going one oh

1568
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: one for the touchdown. Give me the New England Patriots

1569
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: last two years ago in a perfect offensive performance. Give

1570
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: me the offense against the Chiefs the next week. I mean,

1571
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: these guys are they're a wrecking crew. We don't have to.

1572
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 1: None of these draft picks are gonna be the magic

1573
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: elixir that makes the Bills into it. They are already

1574
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: a super Bowl right now today. This some draft pick

1575
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: we don't know. Some this tight end from Iowa is

1576
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: not the missing and he is not safe missing. And

1577
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,879
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that Jay Alan Carter ain't the missing ingredient.

1578
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: Some of them may help. He's a nice people, but

1579
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, come on, they are. They're

1580
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: gonna be good because Brandon does his thing as good

1581
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: as anybody. Sean does his thing as good as anybody.

1582
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: They got some guys, they got it going on. The

1583
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: whole building has got it going on, and so on.

1584
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: This window closing stuff is just somebody's saying it because

1585
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: they heard it. I don't believe it. I don't know.

1586
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: They're good. They're good, and they're gonna continue to be Ronnie,

1587
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: trust me. Okay, we'll go from that. How did I

1588
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: get so wound up? Man? That? Yeah? I went from

1589
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: zero to sixty? Cut back on your doctor, Carfieen's kicking in.

1590
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 1: We go to Joe and Niagara Falls next. What do

1591
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: you guy for us? Joe? You're on one Bill's life. Hey, guys,

1592
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: just wanted to ask if you guys saw the report

1593
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: about I think it was. Daniel Jeremiah said his number

1594
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: one landing spot for DeAndre Hopkins was Buffalo. I just

1595
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: want to know what you guys would think about the

1596
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: fit there schematically, what they would be able to do,

1597
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: and if there's any reasoning behind it, and if it

1598
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: could even happen. Yeah, thanks for the call, Joe. I

1599
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: think we have to understand this first. The question that

1600
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: was posed to him was there are reports that Arizona

1601
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: is looking to move on from DeAndre Hopkins. They got

1602
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: a total tear down and rebuild there with new GM

1603
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: monti As and Fort you know, and their new head

1604
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: coach as well, Jonathan Gannon. So they're tearing the whole

1605
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: thing down. So having a thirty one year old receiver

1606
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: on your roster just doesn't make sense. Daniel Jeremiah thinks

1607
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: the best fit for Hopkins is Buffalo because he could

1608
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: slide right opposite Stefan Diggs and off you go with

1609
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: a one two combination that's pretty tough to top. But

1610
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he wasn't saying, like the Bills are

1611
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: in talks with the card He was just saying, if

1612
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: you need me to fit him somewhere, I like his

1613
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: fit in Buffalo because he would love to go to

1614
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 1: a contender, presumably, and if you could work the finances out,

1615
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: it's a perfect fit. But that reason, But that's the

1616
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: big run. The finances are a gigantic issue because the

1617
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: Bills have limited cap space. Hopkins still has a giant

1618
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: salary two years left on his deal. There would have

1619
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: to be some concessions made somewhere unless the Bills, instead

1620
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: of trading draft capital, trade a player with a big

1621
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: cap figure the other way to clear up cap room

1622
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: for them, you know, Like I know a lot of

1623
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: people have talked about Ed Oliver with a ten point

1624
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 1: seven million dollar cap figure. If you move that money

1625
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: off your books, well, now suddenly it's a lot more

1626
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: it's a lot more realistic to take on a salary

1627
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins, who's in the neighborhood of fifteen to

1628
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: sixteen million d hop this year base salary nineteen point

1629
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: four with a cap hit of thirty million. His signing

1630
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: bonus counts five point five against that in addition to

1631
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: the nineteen point four five. So that's the Cardinals you

1632
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: also got to restructure bonus of three point I got

1633
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: an option bonuses. So he's his cap hit for the

1634
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals a thirty point seven this year. Right, that's why

1635
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: they got to move. They gotta move him. And the

1636
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 1: word has it they have been made it known that

1637
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: they would pick up some of the salary. So let

1638
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: him go and pay like a third of his salary

1639
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: or a fourth of his salary, or a fifth or

1640
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: a tenth or a half, whatever it would be. You

1641
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to pick up the entire base salary at

1642
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: nineteen four. That makes him more affordable for a lot

1643
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: of people. And you know, obviously the Bills would kick

1644
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: the tires on that to find out what about it.

1645
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 1: And if Arizona came back and said, yeah, it's two

1646
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 1: ones plus a player, the Bills that could say, you know,

1647
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: pound salt forget it, right, So that's that's the rub.

1648
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot would he would unquestion, he would be

1649
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: a fit in any offense, right. I mean, he is

1650
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: a ridiculous talent with meat hooks for hands. His hand

1651
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: I think his drop rate is one of the lowest

1652
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: in the league over the last eight years. His hands

1653
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: are the size of both my hands put together. Yeah,

1654
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: they're enormous there. Yes, so he would definitely be a

1655
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: fit in any offense whatsoever. I've shaken hands with him

1656
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, where'd my hand go? Oh? My

1657
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: god is and I shake hands with a lot of

1658
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: people in the NFL when I was traveling around doing

1659
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: all that. His were It's the only guy ever thought

1660
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: that were like, Wow, no, wonder you can catch We

1661
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: take a break here, we'll try to get to some

1662
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: final thoughts on the tweet sheet next. As far as

1663
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: your door horse pick for the Bills and round one

1664
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: of the draft, be back in two minutes here on

1665
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. All right, some quick thoughts on the

1666
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: tweet sheet here In terms of your dark horse pick

1667
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: for the Bills in round one, Darryl says, tight end

1668
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: the board may fall in away that one of these

1669
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 1: guys is the best player available. I would expect the

1670
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: Bills to explore a trade down first, but if there

1671
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: are no partners, could be Darnell Washington time tweech. She

1672
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: had incidentally brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

1673
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Tank says

1674
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: Safety Brian Branch Anthony says, I firmly believe this pick

1675
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: is traded up, down or for a player. Wow. Jack

1676
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: says tight end and DT are my top bets. DJ

1677
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: says wide receiver because the Bills have not drafted one

1678
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 1: in Round one since Sammy Watkins twenty fourteen. Taylor says safety,

1679
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: Casey says edge. Rick says defensive tackle. Fans would hate it.

1680
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't care. Tpj W says, if the Texas running

1681
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: backs there, do you pass and let sense your Casey

1682
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: scoop him. I don't think so. I don't think so either.

1683
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm well, I still want to see a couple more

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Speaker 1: people signed in free agency before we get to that point. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sharon says we need to secure a better old line,

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Speaker 1: much like Cincy and Casey have to restock their lines

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Speaker 1: the past two years. And Josh says pass rusher is

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Speaker 1: his dock or dark horse pick. So a range there,

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Speaker 1: a wide range. It's a big edge rushing group. That's

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Speaker 1: a good one too. I don't know, we might have

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Speaker 1: a riot if that happens. I don't know. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: hard to find a good one man they've been searching.

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Speaker 1: I know we gotta take a break. We gotta take

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Speaker 1: a break because we're done. We're gonna be back tomorrow though,

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock, so we'll be talking more draft, more

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Speaker 1: free agency. Join us at one. We'll see that