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Calm 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: your Mind, Change your Life. 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 2: I started dealing with depression and anxiety at the same time, 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: and working with physicians. You know they're a little bit 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: quick to push medication on you. It wasn't until I 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: found a physician that was running marathons herself who was 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: she suggested actually getting stronger, and when I saw what 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: kind of a difference working out did for my mental 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: health is when everything changed. 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I've got some huge news to share with you. 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: In the last ninety days, seventy nine point four percent 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: of our audience came from viewers and listeners that are 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: not subscribed to this channel. There's research that shows that 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: if you want to create a habit, make it easy 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: to access. By hitting the subscribe button, you're creating a 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: habit of learning how to be happier, healthier, and more healed. 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: This would also mean the absolute world to me and 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: help us make better, bigger, brighter content for you and 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the world. Subscribe right now the number one health and 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: wellness Jay Setti, Jay Sheetty, je Zy Jay Set. Hey everyone, 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to on Purpose, the place you come to 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: to become happier, healthier and more healed. Now in twenty 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: twenty four, I want to help you get fitter, stronger, calmer, 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: and feel like you have more courage. And in order 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: to do all those things, I'm looking for guests, experts, 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: and thought leaders who can help you build different muscles. 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: Today's guest is a friend of mine and she is 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: incredible here to help us get fitter and stronger. I'm 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: speaking about Sonata Greca, a world renowned thought leader in 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: fitness and wellness. Sonata is the founder of we Rise, 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: a female empowerment platform that takes a holistic approach to health, wellness, 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: and personal development. Sonata is also the founder of Zentoa, 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: a women's athletic apparel brand that has outfitted thousands of 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: women around the world. The high performance and stylish active wear. 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Sonata has been sought after by some of the biggest 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: names in the world. She's trained in Mirandaka Bebbe Rexa, 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: amongst many others, and currently Sonata works with Kim Kardashian. 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to welcome to the show my friend, 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: an incredible thought leader, Sonata Greca. 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: Sonata, Welcome, Hi, Thank you so much, Thank you for 57 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: having me here. 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I am so happy to have you. We've been looking 59 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: forward to this. I remember when I DMed you a 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: while ago and we got connected. You came over to 61 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: our home, we were hanging out. You've got to know 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Radi and I definitely feel like before we dive into 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: the fitness conversation. I felt like there was a sole 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: connection when we met, absolutely and I think that's what 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: made me so excited to have this conversation with you. 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: So thanks, Jam, thank you so much for having me here. 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. And like you said, there was a 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: spiritual connection with both yourself and Rabi and yeah and honored, 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for having me Absolutely. 70 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Well four is here. We're already a few months in 71 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: and most likely people have fallen short of some of 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: their fitness goals. Some people might be kind of just 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: holding on. Maybe some people are doing well as well. 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: If someone has fitness goals, if someone has strength goals, 75 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: how do you start by setting a goal? How do 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: you stop? How do you start? 77 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: Actually, a great statistic that I just reviewed from the 78 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: Rearrise app is that people were on average by week 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: doing three and a half workout. So I was like, yes, 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: something is working so far as about a week ago. 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: So hopefully everybody keeps the momentum going. But if you're 82 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: looking to start, I always say start small. You know, 83 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: you want to climb that mountain one step at a time, 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 2: versus you know, doing a day long trip so to speak. 85 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: So take the smallest step, you know, start with twenty minutes. 86 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 2: If we cannot start with twenty minutes, start with five 87 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: minutes or even one minute, and then build that habit, 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: because it's about creating that consistent habit day after day 89 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: that will carry you through. You know, a lot of 90 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: the time we think the motivation is what's needed, and 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: it's it's that habit that we create on a daily basis. 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: So start small, Start with what is attainable. Create a 93 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: daily calendar and make sure that you're placing hopefully that 94 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: workout at the same time every day. You're most likely 95 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: to stick to it. Create an environment that is supportive 96 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: of you working out. So if you are working out 97 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: at home, create a little space for yourself with all 98 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: of your items workout items, and if you're going to 99 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: the gym, then lay out your workout clothes, lay out 100 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: your shoes. 101 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: The night before. 102 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: Some people actually even wear their workout clothes and just sleep. 103 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: And because it eliminates another step, So how can you 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: make it more accessible and easy for yourself to accomplish that? 105 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: And then what is the time of day that does 106 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: actually work best for you when you feel more energetic 107 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: there is no specific time that is you know, this 108 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: is the best time to work out. 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: For whatever reason. 110 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 2: It's like what time is best suited for your life 111 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: and lifestyle. I would suggest, if possible, for most beginners 112 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: to have it in the morning, so you you know, 113 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: kind of get it out of the way and don't 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: leave it up to chance. For later in the day 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: things occur, you know, work and kids and a million 116 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: things that you have to do throughout the day. So 117 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: if you leave it up to chance, you're most likely 118 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: are not going to do it. But if you're confident, 119 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: if you're if you you know, set that time aside, 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: even if it's in the afternoon, which is when I 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: work out myself. That's when I find it that I'm 122 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: most energetic, and when I find in the afternoon for myself. 123 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: There is some studies that suggests that the optimal time 124 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: might be between eleven AM and uh and five p. 125 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: But again, I say, when is it more accessible to you? 126 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: That's key absolutely that Let's say someone and I think 127 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: this is the world we live in today where we 128 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: look at five minutes and go, what's the point of 129 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: working out for five minutes? So what's the point of 130 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: working out for five minutes, Like what can you get 131 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: in five minutes? 132 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: You'll start to create a habit. 133 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: And that's what's key about making fitness long a life 134 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: long activity, because I see it as not you know, 135 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: a sprint, it's a lifelong marathon. You want to stay 136 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: active throughout your entire life for as long as you can. 137 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: So five minutes is just creating that habit. You won't 138 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: see drastic results, you might see no results from five minutes, 139 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: but five minutes today for a week, ten minutes the 140 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: next week for a week, and then you start building 141 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: from there again. That makes it just more accessible and 142 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: creates that habit. And it does take some time for 143 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: a habit to be especially when it comes to fitness, 144 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: to to be established. Somewhere between twenty one days might 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: be when you're like starting to create a foundation, but 146 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: some research shows that it's actually around like sixty sixty 147 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: six days when you really solidify that habit of working out. 148 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: So while in the you know, in the immediate term, 149 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: like it doesn't really provide results, that five minutes will 150 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: just set you up for success. 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think that's such a good point, Like we 152 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: look at it as like, oh, five minutes doesn't have 153 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: any value. But you committing to something exactly five minutes 154 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: a day, every day, and you keeping that promise to 155 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: yourself exactly turn up every single day. That's what matter 156 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: is about the five exactly. 157 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: It builds that self confidence too in yourself. You know, 158 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: your body listens as in with meditation too. Five minutes 159 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: might not break you through to where you need to be, 160 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: but five minutes every day and you're setting up that 161 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: habit and you're also saying like, yes, I got this, 162 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: I'm doing it. You know, I'm dedicating five minutes to 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: myself for myself absolutely. 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: So Let's say someone's listening right now and they say, 165 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Sonata Jay, I'm with you. I only have five minutes. 166 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: What do I do with five minutes? What should they 167 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: do in a five minute work if that's all they 168 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: have and they're starting out. 169 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's five minutes. Just jump on you can. Let's 170 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: start with the treadmill. You know, we can just warm 171 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: up for a minute, do maybe a few squads, do 172 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: some of the basic movements and maybe dead lifts. 173 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: You know where I'm going to this. 174 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: It's a little bit more strength training focused for me, 175 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: but you know, do something to warm you up for 176 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: a minute or so, and then go into some squads, 177 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: go into some dead lifts, go into some like major 178 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: movements that will target some of the biggest muscles in 179 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: your body. Maybe do some rows, and then you've got 180 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: a few movements covered. 181 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: There. Someone's at home and they don't have any gym equipment. 182 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: And no equipment, you still utilize your body weight. It's 183 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: perfectly fine to do so, even if you're starting out. 184 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: Squad to seat, so basically just squat to your seat, 185 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: stand up, squat to your seat stand up. You can 186 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: do hip thrust, back of your shoulders on the couch, 187 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: feed planted on the ground, hip thrust, body weight perfectly fine. 188 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: Grab a kid, put them on your hips, crust the 189 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: kit or any object. 190 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm a big. 191 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: Believer that you can turn anything around your house into 192 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: something to work out with at a little bit of 193 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: extra resistance, and it's doable. 194 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Will you always fit and energetic and strong? Was that 195 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: always been a part of your life or is it 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: something that you had to develop at a certain point. 197 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: As a kid. 198 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: I've always been active. I love being outdoors, playing with friends. 199 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Whenever I could be outside, I would I would be 200 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: on trees, picking fruit because you know, in albeing we 201 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: have to kind of like forge a little bit for 202 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: ourselves and or like on rooftops, just an active kit. 203 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: I played sports, so I've always been active, not necessarily 204 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: like strong, fit, more active into the teenage years. Unfortunately 205 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: that's shifted where you know, your body changes. So I 206 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: was trying to deal with this extra way that I 207 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: was like starting to carry and I started to work 208 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: out for the wrong reasons, which I would consider is 209 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: you know, trying to be as skinny as possible, limiting 210 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: food intake to be as thin as possible. So it 211 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: shifted in that fashion, and that was not a healthy 212 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: way to work out. And then you know, I started 213 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: dealing with depression and anxiety at the same time. I 214 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: think everything kind of like hit at the same time. 215 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: And working with physicians, you know, they're a little bit 216 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: quick to push medication on you, which I did. I 217 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: did take, but it wasn't until I found a physician 218 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: that was running marathons herself, we which she suggested, you know, 219 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: actually getting stronger. And that's what made the biggest difference 220 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: for me, is gaining that strength working out for the 221 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,479 Speaker 2: right reasons, which for me at the time were mental. 222 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: For my mental health. 223 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: And when I saw what kind of a difference working 224 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: out did for my mental health whenever, it is when 225 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: everything changed. Now I was nurturing my body for health 226 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: versus dieting it to be as skinny as possible. So 227 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: it has taken the journey of fitness for me has 228 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: taken a bit of a path, of a different path 229 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: throughout the years. And then but when I found strength, 230 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: When I found strength training is when I found the 231 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: strength in me and I was able to overcome a 232 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: lot of the things. 233 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: That were. 234 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: There were weighing on me, that were affecting me, like 235 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: depression and anxiety and then eating disorders. 236 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: We'll go us through how just you know, walk us 237 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: through the dangers of I guess the way like you 238 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: said the wrong reasons. Walk us through some of the 239 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: dangers physically and biologically of what happens to the body 240 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: when we're starving the body or when we're not really 241 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: helping ourselves in the right way. 242 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: Of course, I mean you if you're working and there's 243 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: there's extremes to everything. So while working out is good, 244 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: doing workouts to the extreme for hours on and while 245 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: malnourishing the body can be detrimental to your physic or 246 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: you're not incorporating those nutrients that your your body needs, 247 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: so you're depleting yourself to to extreme levels, both with 248 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: the nutrition and the physical activities. 249 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: So it's it is not healthy. 250 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: It's not healthy mentally, it's not healthy physically, your your 251 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: your body starts to deteriorate. You know, you see your 252 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: like comes and teeth interior rate, and you know everything 253 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: else that goes on internally that goes with that. So 254 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: it is not healthy. It is not healthy. While being 255 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: thin naturally can absolutely be healthy, there's nothing wrong with that, 256 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: but when it happens in a forced manner, when you're 257 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: starving yourself and when you're working out to extremes, that's 258 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: when it becomes unhealthy. 259 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Jay here. My wife and I have 260 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: had so much fun creating our own sparkling tea Juny, 261 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: and I've got big news for you. 262 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: It's at Target and we'd love your support. If you 263 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: can go out grab a Juny. You'll be adding adaptagens 264 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: and new tropics into your life with mood boosting properties 265 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: aimed at promoting a balanced and happy mind. Through our 266 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: commitment to our wellness journey and striving to fuel our 267 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: bodies with the healthiest ingredients. It's been our purpose to 268 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: make healthy choices accessible for all, which is why you 269 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: is now on shelves at Target. So head to our 270 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: store locator at Drinkjuni dot com and find Juni at 271 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: a target near you. Walk us through the different types 272 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: of exercise. You obviously focus on strength training. I want 273 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: to hear about the benefits of that, but you know, 274 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: people are trying to make sense of like do I 275 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: need to do pilarates? 276 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Do I need to do yoga? Do I need to 277 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: do hit workouts? Do I need You know, there's just 278 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: so much on offer today, especially in LA, but there's 279 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: so much on offer all over the world. Absolutely, people 280 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: are just wondering what's going to work. I was telling 281 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: you earlier that you know, if I'm doing a workout 282 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not seeing progress, either in strength or physique 283 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, then you get discouraged and 284 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: then you let go of it. So walk us through 285 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: the different benefits of different exercises and why strength training 286 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: is a priority for you. 287 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: In my actual programming, I also incorporate some higher intensity 288 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: and I try to weave in a little bit of 289 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: fun cardio. So I do incorporate different modalities. It is 290 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: not strictly you know, strength training or and it's not 291 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,479 Speaker 2: power lifting by any means training, but I do incorporate 292 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: like hit sessions and some cardio because you need I 293 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,359 Speaker 2: value all of the components, all of the different modalities. 294 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: But for me, strength training. 295 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: Is sort of like the golden standard because that is 296 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: what is going to strengthen your bones, That's what's going 297 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: to build muscle mass and a vast array of other 298 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: benefits that not every modality has. You know, strength training 299 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: is proven to increase, like I said, bone density and 300 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: muscle mass, which are so crucial to longevity and a 301 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: healthy longevity. And you know, longevity now has become such 302 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: a buzzword. And if you could do one thing for 303 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: your longevity is strength? 304 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: Is strength train? 305 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: What's actually happening when we do strength training? Like why 306 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: does it link to longevity? The bone density is an 307 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: important part? What else is happening because of strength training? 308 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Because what I always hear about is you know, as 309 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: you get older, if you fall over, you need the 310 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: strength to pay yourself back up. But like how strength 311 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: training in other ways really impacting our longevity. 312 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because it is our bone. Our bone 313 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: density max is reached at about age twenty five to thirty, 314 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: and from there we start to lose bone density, and 315 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: by the age forty and on, we start to lose 316 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: bone density faster than we can build it. So then 317 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: what happens at that point is that when we do fall, 318 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: we break a hip or a wrist, and then the 319 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: chances of recovery from that are much less, so that 320 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: leads to deaths. I think there is like thirty two 321 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: thousand deaths cost from fall injuries in adults like sixty 322 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: five and older. And obviously, if you can build and 323 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 2: muscles the same way, you start losing after the age 324 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: of thirty, believe it or not, you start losing muscle 325 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: mass at about three to eight percent every decade. So 326 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: that's as sets in incredible. Those are incredible numbers. I mean, 327 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: at the age thirty is a little bit slower, but 328 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: then it starts to pick up at forty fifty, and 329 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: then by sixty is even faster. So if you can 330 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: build as much as you can in bone and muscle 331 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: as when you can, that will just help you carry 332 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: They will help you carry yourself through and healthier in 333 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: the older years in the later years of life, because again, 334 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: you can either prevent yourself from falling or you can 335 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: recover faster from an injury because your bone density is 336 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: where it is more optimal than it would have been 337 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: if you hadn't been building that bone mass. And especially 338 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: for women, women are more prone to ostroporosis, which is 339 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: bone density laws than men, and by menopause, the numbers 340 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: are staggering as to that bone density loss. And for men, actually, 341 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: even though dester porosis is less than women, their causality 342 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: of death, their death due to falls is higher than women. 343 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: Oh wow, So I mean a lot of the time, 344 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: I know, it's like when we're in our twenties or 345 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: even our thirties, we think of ourselves it's invincible, you know, 346 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: we've got these amazing bodies. They're incredible, of course, but 347 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: how do we prepare ourselves now when it is possible 348 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: for the future ourselves? Our future self will will thank us. 349 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: This is really powerful stuff, Sonata. This is really going 350 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: to connect with the audience to hear these reset studies 351 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: and recognizing the changes that are happening in every decade. 352 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: Because I think so many of us, like you said, 353 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: and I remember that. I remember being twenty two years 354 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: old and thinking I was Superman, right, and thinking nothing 355 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: could defeat me. And I remember my dad kept telling me, 356 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: you need to focus on your health. You need to 357 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: focus on your health, and I was like, I'm healthy, 358 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And then, you know, when I had 359 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: a couple of my own personal challenges with health, really 360 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of stuck with me as to what an investment 361 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: it needed to be. What are some of the biggest 362 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: things that you consistently see getting in people's way when 363 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: they're trying to get fitter and stronger. What are the 364 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: challenges the most common ones that you see people that 365 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: you've trained over the years that you find they struggle with. 366 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Well, the first one is relying on feelings. A lot 367 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: of people rely on motivation. I don't feel motivated, So 368 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: you know, how or how do you get motivated. 369 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: To work out? 370 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: A lot of the time, it just I'm not motivated. 371 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to necessarily work out. The coziness of 372 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: the home is a lot better than you know, getting 373 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: up and getting moving, But it's we don't rely on that. 374 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: You know, you take that, you take those feelings, you 375 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: put them aside, and you put your shoes and you 376 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: keep going because that's what you do. It's like brushing 377 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: your teeth. There's no For me, there's no. It's a 378 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: non negotiable. Working out is a non negotiable, not just 379 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: for right now, not because of usthetics, but for longevity. 380 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: Like we were talking about quality longevity, aesthetics come. It's 381 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: beautiful once you do the things, the right things for 382 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: your body with nutrition and working out, aesthetics are a 383 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: byproduct that will come. Because a lot of people take 384 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: that approach of like wanting to look a certain way, 385 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: which I find can be motivating, but for it's short lived, 386 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: especially if the results are taken a little bit longer, 387 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: which could take longer for some people. But if you 388 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: are doing it again for those right reasons, for the 389 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: reasons of like I want to be as strong as 390 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: I can in this body, so this body can carry 391 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: me forward in a healthiest possible way for as long 392 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: as as possible. So that is the biggest one that 393 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: I face, is like how do you How do I 394 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: get motivated? How do I stay motivated? It's like act, 395 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: don't wait for the feelings. 396 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: Act. The other thing is I'm too busy. I'm too busy. 397 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: There's always time. I'm sorry, but you can always make 398 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: time for yourself. You can find that time. A lot 399 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: of the time we find I'll even there. There's been 400 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 2: even arguments back and forth with people on Instagram. You know, 401 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't have time, yet two hours later they're still 402 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: responding to that same chain of communication. Well you had 403 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: two hours right there. You have time. A lot of 404 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: the time is just analyze your day. Just analyze your 405 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: day as to where you're you're spending time that you 406 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: could carve out. Not saying don't watch TV or don't 407 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: don't be on social media exactly do that? How can 408 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: you incorporate it incorporated? 409 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: Exactly? 410 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: I'm a big, big believer of like not doing all 411 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: or nothing. So even when it comes to nutrition, it's 412 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: like you want to eat a burger, fine, just how 413 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: can you maybe take one of the sides of the 414 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: bun out? 415 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 416 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: How can you substitute half of the fries with a salad? 417 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't don't completely take things out, try to incorporate 418 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: in your life. So find out there there is definitely 419 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: always a little bit of time that you can find 420 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: absolutely Yeah. 421 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: When going back to the feelings point, yeah, I found 422 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: that things that are good for me feel bad before, yes, 423 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: but feel amazing after exactly. And the things that are 424 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: bad for me, they feel really good before, yeah, but 425 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: they don't feel so great. And so I'm the same 426 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: as you. When I wake up in the morning, I 427 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: often go on a hike. That's like how I like 428 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: to start my morning. 429 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: That's very fresh, I'm going out for a while. 430 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like being active, and I don't want 431 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: to do something too strengo because my day is quite 432 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: busy exactly. And I found that when I wake up 433 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: in the morning, I don't want to work out. I 434 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: don't feel like you, And You're so right that I 435 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: just have to say to myself, I have to remind myself, 436 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: but I know how I'll feel after. And when it 437 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: comes to eating a burger, trust me, I want to 438 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: eat a burger all the time and I have to 439 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: run myself, but I know how it's going to feel after. 440 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: And so it's almost like you've got to connect your 441 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: brain to the after feeling, absolutely, because the after feeling 442 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: is so much more what you have to live with, 443 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: because the feeling before kind of comes and go exactly. 444 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: I want to eat burger, eate burg and now I 445 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: don't feel so great. I don't want to work out. 446 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: I ignore working out. I didn't work out. Now I 447 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: don't feel so great, And you're living with that feeling 448 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: after for much longer than you're living with the feeling before. 449 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: Very true. 450 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: True, So that's definitely helped me. And the busy one 451 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: is so true. I mean, I feel like if I 452 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: work out while watching I love watching football soccer highlights 453 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: and miss watching soccer, and I don't get to watch 454 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: it full. I don't get to watch full games anymore 455 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: because there are different timings because I live in LA 456 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: the games are in London or England, and I will 457 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: put on a highlights of the game which are like 458 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, and I'm like, this is perfect for a 459 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: twenty minute workout. I can watch the highlights, I can 460 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: work out, and it's going to force me to get 461 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: through twenty minutes. If I didn't have the highlights on, 462 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: I know what give up in like six yeah, And 463 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: so when the highlights are on, I know that I'll 464 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: be able to get through a full twenty minute workout, 465 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: which is what I'm trying to do if I'm traveling 466 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: or moving around. So I love that idea of incorporating. 467 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: Things, incorporating thing, And that's true when it comes to 468 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: creating habits that are tough to create in the beginning. 469 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: How can you tack on something that is enjoyable, like 470 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of a reward system, And a reward 471 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: system doesn't have to be that I get to eat. 472 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: You know, what is the words? 473 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: What is the right reward system for being fit? Because 474 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think it is getting. 475 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: You Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be you know, like 476 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: you said, you like to watch the highlights, you know, 477 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: a show that you that you enjoy, or another activity 478 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: that's enjoyable, you know, or if you want to treat yourself, 479 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: find maybe when it comes to food, find a healthier option. 480 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm a great believer also in substituting. You know a 481 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: lot of the recipes that I post are I have 482 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: a sweet tooth, a major sweet tooth. So how can 483 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: I create recipes that are healthy, that will satisfy and 484 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: it will taste just as good as the naughty. 485 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 3: Food. 486 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: So it's just for every person. It could be, it 487 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: could be different. What that reward for them is but 488 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: tack it onto it and you know are in the 489 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: we Rise app we have doctor Gina whose a habits expert, 490 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: habits building expert, one of the I think four leading 491 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: researchers of habits, and she has so much input and 492 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: so much information on how to make habits sustainable. You know, 493 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: I wish I had a doctor pocket Gena. 494 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: That I. 495 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: Ask, Yeah, but yeah, she she'll have such amazing insight 496 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: as to how to create and sustain these habits. 497 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the biggest misconception with strength training? What do 498 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: you think people get wrong? 499 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: That woman will get like bulky and big and and gigantic. 500 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: That's like the biggest thing is like I don't want 501 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: to get to bulky. I don't want to get to 502 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: what you hear a lot. That's what I hear a lot. 503 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: And that is a huge misconception because in females, our 504 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: hormones are do not allow us to get to the 505 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: levels that for example, a man's physique can get naturally. 506 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: It is not biologically. There's obviously different levels of hormones 507 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: and different women that will promote growth in some more 508 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: or less than others. But I always say, at the 509 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: very at the end of the day, you can just 510 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: back off, back off if you are feeling But I 511 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: guarantee you that once you start gaining a little bit 512 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: of muscle, you will be addicted. You will because the 513 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 2: the feeling of strength and confidence that it that it 514 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: gives you, like a stronger body gives you. At least 515 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: for me and for the peeople that I've worked with, 516 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: those feelings that it gives them are far outweigh any 517 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: negative misconceptions. I'm going to say misconception because it is. 518 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: It's you're not going to get big. You're not going 519 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: to get huge, You're not going to be like Hulk. 520 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't. Rady love strength training like it's such a 521 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: passion of hers and she loves that feeling of being 522 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: stronger and loves that feeling of like it's amazing to see. 523 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: Because I think you are right that we have this 524 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: worry that our body is going to change and look 525 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: away that we don't want it to. 526 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: Look yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 527 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: What should someone eat right before a workout and right after, 528 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: especially a strength training workout? 529 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: So before a workout about an hour maybe thirty minutes 530 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: at most, because you only need to close. I would 531 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: eat a combination of protein and carbs, maybe a little 532 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: bit higher in carbs, and then afterwards meal that is 533 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: higher in protein, so at least at least twenty grams 534 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: of protein in that meal after the workout. I mean, 535 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: the studies are a little bit all over the place 536 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: when it comes to this. Obviously, for somebody that's been 537 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: working out for a long time, you're a little bit 538 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: more flexible with that, or for somebody that is trying 539 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: to that is trying to gain muscle mass or weight, again, 540 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: it's a little bit more flexible versus a beginner. Then 541 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: you have to be a little bit more strict with 542 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: strict a little bit more on top of your nutrition 543 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: when it comes to not just before and after, but 544 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: throughout the day and at the end of the day. 545 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: Is what you're consuming throughout the day that is most important. 546 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: So are you're reaching so not so focused because a 547 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: lot of people focus so much on before and after. 548 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: I would start with how do you feel before a workout? 549 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: Do you feel? 550 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: You know, if you're working out in the morning and 551 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: you're energized enough, then feel free to work out out 552 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: on an empty stomach, that's completely fine. And if you 553 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: can carry that energy through. If you feel like you 554 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: need to have a little bit of nutrition beforehand, that's 555 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: great too. It's how do you optimize for yourself? How 556 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: do you optimize for yourself? 557 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: How did genetics play a role in achieving your goals? 558 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: Genetics, they do play a role, a big role in 559 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 2: the sense that, well, genetics will not get you out 560 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 2: of bed because a lot of the time, you know, 561 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: people see my physique and say, you know, it's all genetics. 562 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: I actually had to fight against a lot of my 563 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: genetics to get out of bed and work out. I'm 564 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: pretty disposed to the depression and anxiety, so battling those factors, 565 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: that's a genetic factor that goes into play. But then 566 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: when it comes to actual physique building, yes, you'll vary 567 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: as to like the muscle mass that you will put on, 568 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: but you can always improve. You know, there's not let's 569 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: not even bother working out because I don't build bigger muscles. 570 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: You know, you don't even know till you've tried to 571 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: what capacity you can build. Genetics will play a bit 572 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: of of a factor in the body that you're trying 573 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: to achieve. You know, some people will carry a little 574 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: bit more weight around their stomach, so their APPS will 575 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: not be as easily visible as others. So they'll have 576 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: to in a healthy way, potentially diet if they can, 577 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: but to see the visible abdominal abdominal abdominal muscles, not 578 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: that that is a golden standard of anything, just hypothetically 579 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: saying that it will take them longer than others to 580 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: to to achieve that, because again genetics do play a 581 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: role in that. 582 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: Talking about that, what is the health benefit of having 583 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: a lower body fat percentage? What is the goal? Right, 584 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: because we know that people are trying to lower their 585 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: body of percentage in order to have APPS, But what's 586 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: the actual health benefit of having a lower body fed percentage? 587 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and or even with that, you want to maintain 588 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: a healthier one, so you don't want to go too low. 589 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: You don't want to be too high. 590 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: If you're going too low, then your hormone start to 591 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: get messed up, and we don't want to if it 592 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 2: goes too low, so then we start to you know, 593 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: women will start to miss their period, so it will 594 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: affect them that way. Obviously, that puts a body in 595 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of a frenzy. It's not homeostasius anymore. 596 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: When it goes too high, then you're starting to deal 597 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: with cardiovascular issues, you know, insulin resistance and all of 598 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: the things that will then lead to an unhealthier individual. 599 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: So there's a range there that we should be. 600 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: Talking about cardio. You said that you incorporate cardio. Yeah, 601 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: how much is cardio important inn strength training practice and 602 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: how much is it not needed? 603 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: The question would be what are the reasons for adding cardio? 604 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: So are you adding cardio because a lot of people 605 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: think that cardio is what's going to help them lose weights, 606 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: and that's not necessarily that's not true. It's all about 607 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: calories in versus calories out. So if you're talking about 608 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: strictly losing weight, is how many colors are you putting 609 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: in your body and how many calories you're expending. So 610 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: if you're deciding to utilize strength training as a way 611 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: to expand those calories, great, If you're utilizing cardio, greade, 612 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: there is some studies again that suggest that you'll get 613 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: faster into that fat burning phase if you're doing strength 614 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: training before and then cardio after, and also cardio. If 615 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: you're doing strength training also before and cardio after, you're 616 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: you're not compromising your strength training process, as if you 617 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: were to do cardio beforehand, how much cardio That also 618 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: is an individual basis cardio. A lot of people hate cardio. 619 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: So what I try personally to do, I'll incorporated on 620 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 2: upper body days, so I'll do somewhat of an interval training. 621 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: So I'll do an exercise at upper body focused and 622 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: then thirty seconds to a minute of sprinting, and then 623 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: another you know exercise or set of an upper body 624 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: focused and then So that's how I make it fund 625 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: in my personal training and for everybody in the wee 626 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: Rise app. And obviously if you're wanting to add more 627 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: cardio because you feel like, you know, adding a steady 628 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 2: state cardio session after a separate day, a separate part 629 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 2: of the day, because you're wanting to be at more 630 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 2: of a caloric deficit, that's completely fine. 631 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: As well, it sounds that you don't like cardia. 632 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 3: I don't love cardia. 633 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: So I ran marathons and that was great. I've run 634 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: three marathons. 635 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. You do put your body through. 636 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: A lot, But I have found personally what I've achieved 637 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: through strength training when it comes physically and mentally, has 638 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 2: been far more rewarding than cardio. There's some you know, 639 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: benefit to cardio in the sense that some people feel 640 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: more of the endorphins and the feel good hormones during 641 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: hit sessions or cardio, So there is a benefit to that. 642 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, what is so wild? 643 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: So let's say, while I value strength training, pick your 644 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: poison at the end of the day, or pick your remedy. 645 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: I should say, pick your elixir. You know, what would 646 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: that be for you? As long as you can get 647 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 2: some activity. And so while there is hierarchies of what 648 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: you want to achieve. So if you want to build muscle, 649 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: strength training really is like the golden standard, right, But 650 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: if you know you absolutely hate it, what is your 651 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: activity of choice at the end of the day. 652 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 3: Is what I would say. 653 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: Walk me through what your regime was for running the marathons, 654 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: like what did you how did you build up to that, 655 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: what was your practice? What was your work routine and 656 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: the nutrition plend. 657 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: I wish I could say that I followed one of 658 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: the one of the plans because this was quite a 659 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: few years ago. They've kind of build slowly and it 660 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: worked on like hill sprints and you know, just a 661 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: different variety of things that you need. 662 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: To work on when you're running a marathon. 663 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: But it basically started to started with three miles and 664 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: then increased to five miles, and then after a week 665 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: or so, increased so incrementally increasing the length that I 666 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: would run till I got to the marathon. I guess, yeah, 667 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: I never you never run the whole marathon when you're 668 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: doing when you're practicing, it's more like up to like 669 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: eighteen miles. But it was just slowly over time building 670 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: after that end, definitely feeding that that those calories that 671 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: were burning almost couldn't couldn't keep the weight on me 672 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: at that point. 673 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're expending so much energy. 674 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: What would you now say is a great nutrition plant 675 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: while someone's strength training, Like what kind of things have 676 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: you found to be really integral and useful to have? 677 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: And then what have you found to be useful to 678 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: leave out? 679 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: Definitely prioritizing protein. So if you're consuming about point eight 680 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: to just a little bit over one gram per pound 681 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,479 Speaker 2: of body weight of protein per day, that's a good 682 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: place to be, and then filling the rest with carbs 683 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: and fats. But that's what I always say, prioritize protein. 684 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 2: That's what's going to help not just building muscle, but 685 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: just your physiological needs. You know, protein is the building 686 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: block of our body. And what you can leave out 687 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: is the infamous sugars, you know, the refined sugars and 688 00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: so op more for complex carbs. I still like eating fruit. 689 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: I know there's been fruit suddenly has become controversial. Like 690 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: if you're eating fruit and vegetables, you're good. Just fit 691 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: into that macro, especially if you're starting out and you 692 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: want to you have a specific goal, It is important 693 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: to find out what your appropriate macros are for the day. 694 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: And macros are the macro nutrients. So what is your 695 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: daily intake of protein, carbohydrates, and fats. But I always 696 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: prioritize protein. 697 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: And with the protein, I mean most of us are 698 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: not getting close to that much. 699 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: The protein of us are not like I said, for 700 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: let's say one hundred and twenty pound person, like a gram, 701 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 2: so you need one hundred and twenty grams of protein 702 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: or around that per day. So you know they're in 703 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: a piece of like palm of your hand of let's 704 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: say chicken, there's like twenty grams of protein, So you 705 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: need to be a little bit more discerning of your meals, 706 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: So always include protein with every meal and maybe even 707 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: worthier snacks. 708 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for most of us it feels like 709 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: protein takes up probably that twenty grams and then we're 710 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: filling the rest, yeah, with carbs, fats, anything else. But 711 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: I've definitely found that when I first learned about that, 712 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe how hard it was to actually 713 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: prioritize getting and I'm doing that plant based, which is 714 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: even harder even for my friends who eat me. Even 715 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: they were saying just how challenging it was for them, 716 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: like it's not easy across the board, and so raising 717 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: that up to. 718 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, yeah, it's important, especially as we age, believe 719 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: it or not, like we need to intake even more protein. 720 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: You shared so much amazing research and studies with us today. 721 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: Are there any others that really come to your mind 722 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: that you think this is really important for women to know? 723 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 2: What? 724 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: This is really important for strength trainers to know, because 725 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: some of the studies you've shared with us have really 726 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: been powerful. 727 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the muscle loss is huge. The like 728 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 2: I said, the thirty two thousand deaths per year, which 729 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: actually crazy enough, has has almost doubled from like twenty 730 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: twelve to twenty twenty one, if I believe, if I 731 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: remember correctly, and I wonder what's gone into that, Like 732 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: why there's been such a drastic increase, and like that's 733 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 2: due to falls during this time, Like maybe we've become 734 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: less we've become less mobile, Maybe there's medications in the 735 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: market that are affecting our bone density. It's actually when 736 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 2: it comes to depression and anxiety mood disorders, it has 737 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 2: been found that even as little as one hundred and 738 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: fifty minutes of activity per week can relieve symptoms to 739 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 2: about forty to sixty percent forty two to sixty percent, 740 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 2: while as compared to psychotherapy and pharmaceuticals, the numbers are 741 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: twenty percent to thirty percent in relief of symptoms. So 742 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: even the highest the higher upper end limit of pharmacological 743 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: products and psychotherapy doesn't even come close to what you 744 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: can achieve by physical activity. And that's only at one 745 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty minutes per week. So to me, like 746 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: that's that's mind blowing what you can achieve because and 747 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm not negating the need for psychotherapy or or from 748 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: pharmacological products. Absolutely, you know where it's necessary, but why 749 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: not start with exercising, Like, start there you will achieve 750 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: results that might be even higher than what you can 751 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 2: do with pharmaceutical products. 752 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: That's like just over twenty minutes a day. 753 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, just over twenty minutes a day. 754 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: That's incredible. 755 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that's. 756 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing to know. Yeah, wow, Like yeah, and the 757 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: difference too, Like you're saying instead of twenty to thirty percent, 758 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: reduced forty to sixty So. 759 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely exactly or exactly exactly, that's. 760 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're right again, we're not telling anyone not 761 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: to take things that they need to take, but absolutely 762 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: the idea that why not have the full package? 763 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: Exactly? Why not have the full package? 764 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 2: That's what it is because a lot of the time, 765 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: it can be that psychotherapy or pharmacologics don't necessarily work 766 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 2: for some people. I think there's some statistics of like 767 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 2: around forty percent of the people don't experience the relief 768 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: that they need. So either in conjunction or starting with 769 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: an exercise program that will provide significant relief. I mean, firsthand, 770 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 2: I'm standing here as somebody that has achieved that kind 771 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: of relief without now being on any pharmaceuticals. This is 772 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: why I work out every day. I don't want to 773 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 2: experience those symptoms of the pression and anxiety and ever. 774 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 2: So this is why I keep going. 775 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: So powerful, so powerful, so inspiring to hear that as well, 776 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, so inspiring to hear that. What was it 777 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: for you that was causing that? Where was that coming from? 778 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: For you? Personally? 779 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: It's been I mean, there's so many factors. I think 780 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: when you're talking about being anxiety in the question experiencing that, 781 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: I think some of it is genetic. Some of it 782 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: is being a teenager and moving countries, going from Albania 783 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: to the United States and completely in a new world, 784 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: a new space. My family didn't know English at the time. 785 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: I was the only one that did, so I had 786 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 2: to support them. So I had to assume the role 787 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: of an adult at a fairly young age. So I 788 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: was fourteen fifteen at the time where I had to 789 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: become an adult in my family. So I think there's 790 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: a cornucopia of like things that that kind of came 791 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: together for me to experience anxiety and depression and trying 792 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 2: to fit in and not you know, being a foreigner 793 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: at the time, and the teenager and being bullied and 794 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: made fun of all kind of let pave the path 795 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 2: a little bit for me to experience that. And I 796 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 2: do feel for for for teenagers, and I do feel 797 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: for the the generation that is that that is living 798 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 2: through through these times. 799 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 3: It's not easy. It's not easy, but. 800 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 2: Find find find comfort in that discomfort of working out 801 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: and in that physical activity because it will help. 802 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you so much. 803 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you a bit about steps. 804 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: What's your take on the ten thousand steps. 805 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: It's a good place to start, Like I said, like walking, 806 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: that's great, ten to twelve thousand. My dad does it 807 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 2: every day, is committed to it. It's a good starting point. 808 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: It's a good starting point, but it's how you make 809 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: those steps quality quality steps. 810 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: You know, do you work out every day of the 811 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: week most days? 812 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 3: But I don't. 813 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 2: I find that it is great to keep yourself active, 814 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: even if it's something light. So if I'm not working out, 815 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: I'll go for a long walk or a hike. I 816 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: think it's so important to keep ourselves active because we 817 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: do end up spending most of the day sitting. So 818 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: even working out for an hour a day if you 819 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: spend most of your day sitting, it doesn't negate that sitting. 820 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: So it is important, even speaking like throughout the day 821 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: to get up and take a little bit of a walk, 822 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 2: like every half. 823 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: An hour, every hour. 824 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,959 Speaker 2: So I do. I do try to keep active every 825 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: single day. So if I'm not doing a full workout, 826 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: I'll go for a walk like et cetera, hike. 827 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: No days are days are? I love it. 828 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 3: A body in motion stays in motion. 829 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: No, I know what you mean. It's it's so interesting 830 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: how much, Yeah, staying sedentary is the cause of so 831 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: many of our issues. We had doctor darsh and Sean 832 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: a few months back, and he talked about the idea 833 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: of just how much our quality of life changes because 834 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,959 Speaker 1: we're not getting up from our seats all day, whether 835 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: at our desks or work or wherever else it may be. 836 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: And so I love what you're saying about the idea 837 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: of moving, even if it's not a full workout exactly. 838 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: Your rest day is my best workout day, basically basically 839 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: my ideal work day. She's like, I go on a 840 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: hike when I'm not working out, and I'm like, here, 841 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: I am going. My hike is my workout. I love 842 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: that you do you work out. 843 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 3: You just told me you're into calisthenics. 844 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny. I love it. One thing I 845 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: wanted to dive into about as we're coming to her 846 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: close here is you train some of the most well 847 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: known people in the world who seem to work really hard. Obviously, 848 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: Kim's been on the show and we always see Kim 849 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: posting you and you guys training together. What have you 850 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: learned about training with her? What have you learned about 851 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: her from training with her? 852 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: So one thing that I've learned about Kim with training 853 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: with her, it's her dedication. 854 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: She is. 855 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: She shows up, shows up on time, and it's ready 856 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 2: to go. Never does she complain or backs away from 857 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: something that I put her through, and I put her 858 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 2: through a lot. 859 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 3: She never backs away. She always pushes through. 860 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: Well. 861 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 3: Is very impressive. 862 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised she did say her workout was one 863 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: of her favorite things. 864 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 3: She's very dedicated for sure. 865 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys get organized right if she has 866 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: a shoot coming up or she's got a specific out 867 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: fit to wear for an event, like you get really. 868 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 3: We dial it in. We dial it in. 869 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 2: I did, and I ended up staying here for a 870 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 2: little bit longer. 871 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 3: Than I was Yeah, I was expected. 872 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: What was it like when you first resear and said 873 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: I need you to come over? What was that like? 874 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: What was that conversation? 875 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: Like? 876 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 3: Yes, I'll be there. 877 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: Because obviously it is Kim, But I believe in working 878 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: with these people that have such high influence because of 879 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: the impact that they will have on the larger population. 880 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: So if they can send if through them, I can 881 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: send a message of strength for women. So strength is beautiful, 882 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 2: strength is confidence, whatever that looks like. Strength doesn't have 883 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: to come with big muscles, you know. But if I 884 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: can send a message of strength to especially young women, 885 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,919 Speaker 2: then to me, I've done. 886 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 3: My purpose is fulfilled. 887 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. What's the first thing you asked someone when 888 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: they come to you, anyone that comes to work with you, 889 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: what's the first thing you ask them? 890 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 3: How serious are you about this? 891 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: Right? 892 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? 893 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: Great question about this? 894 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 2: Like, you know, are you going to give me a 895 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: day here and there? Because that's just not going to 896 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 2: achieve anything for you or myself. So you have to 897 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: be serious about your help. And I like to make 898 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 2: it even though somebody comes to me saying that they 899 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: need to look a certain way. I always try to 900 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 2: make it about help and longevity. 901 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's similar in coaching. Actually, whenever I take on 902 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: a client, I found that clients who are willing to 903 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: dedicate and commit time exactly see phenomenal results. Other clients 904 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 1: that I have met for two hours a day every 905 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,959 Speaker 1: day for two years, and other clients that have met 906 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: twice a week, thrice a week for three to six months. 907 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: And then I have someone who's like kind of checking 908 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: in once a month, kind of checking in once a quarter, cancel, 909 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have and you just start to know notice, And 910 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: it's hard because it's not that someone is not wanting 911 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: to work hard, or it's not that they're a bad 912 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: person or right persons, just people have different discipline levels. 913 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: But it's like, in order to really see an impact 914 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: and see the results, there has to be that. 915 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: Committment, that commitment. Absolutely. 916 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: You talked about the purpose of strength training. What is 917 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: the purpose of workouts like pilates and yoga and other forms. 918 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: What is the purpose of those kind of workouts compared 919 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: to strength training? 920 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 2: They like I said, I respect and utilize, have utilized 921 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 2: myself all modalities. You know, I love yoga, but I 922 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 2: think there are great additives. They're a great in addition 923 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 2: to strength training because they will not most likely build 924 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 2: muscle mass in the way that strength training can. They 925 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 2: will build maybe endurance. They will build some endurance, They'll 926 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 2: build flexibility and some strength, but not to the level 927 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: that lifting weights will will not so in the way 928 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 2: that lifting weights will build your bone density. Yoga and pilates, 929 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: unless you're doing some crazy yoga or mulatti, is that. 930 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 3: They will not do that. 931 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 2: But again, there is a great place and time. In addition, 932 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 2: I believe to strength training to incorporate yoga and pilates. 933 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: What's the difference in the workout you prescribe to someone 934 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: who wants to gain muscle versus someone who wants to 935 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: lose weight through strength training. 936 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 2: They don't have to be the same at all. They 937 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 2: could be one and the same, because again, at the 938 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 2: end of the day, when you're building muscle, you're challenging yourself. 939 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 2: You're challenging your muscles with a weight that you're lifting, 940 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 2: which is expanding calories, and that's what you need in 941 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 2: weight loss as well. You need expenditure of calories that 942 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: but at a caloric deficit. So that's the only changing 943 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: component is that caloric deficit. So it's more in the 944 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 2: nutrition versus in the workouts. I mean there is you know, 945 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: you can work out, you can challenge yourself with the 946 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 2: duration of the workout and then maintain your nutrition. Or 947 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 2: you can eat less basically so be at a deficit 948 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 2: in calories and then lose weight. So it doesn't have 949 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 2: to be any difference there. It's just how you manage 950 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 2: nutrition versus output. 951 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: Got it, got it? And if you're working out on 952 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: your own without a trainer, it's much harder. How do 953 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: you know what to add to make you more challenging 954 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: to continue to get stronger or to continue to shift 955 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: because I find like most people are working out without trying, 956 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: and of course they can use the we rise at 957 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: the Yeah, have that that's what we rise up. 958 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 959 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I'll give you the guideline if you'll give 960 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: you the workouts. What you can do on your own 961 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 2: is challenge yourself with the weights that you're lifting. So 962 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 2: if for example, the recommended reps are between eight and twelve, 963 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 2: when you get to that eight or ten, nine, ten 964 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 2: twelve rep, like, how are you challenged? 965 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: Can you do ten more? 966 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: If you're doing ten more after that, or if you 967 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 2: can't do you're doing you're doing two little weights, so 968 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: you need to increase the weight. That's why you have 969 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 2: to keep in mind. I also value strongly that mind 970 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: muscle connection, so truly thinking about the working muscle. Let's 971 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 2: actually studies that show that if you are thinking of 972 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 2: the muscles that you're working, then that actually creates the 973 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: muscle gets bigger. There is their studies to that. So 974 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 2: if you are slowing down the movement thinking about the 975 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: muscles that you're working, I sometimes try to touch you 976 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 2: know this is working. It sends that signal from your 977 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 2: brain to the muscle that hey, we're working here, we're 978 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 2: working here, and that will increase strength, will increase muscle mass. 979 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I've heard about that, seeing the idea of 980 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,959 Speaker 1: people almost doing weights in their mind. 981 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 982 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: There are studies that simply did that without any weight 983 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: lifting and they found a significant difference. 984 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's the power of the mind is incredible. 985 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: What else have you done for the power of the 986 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: mind to affect your body? Like, what other practices have 987 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: you taken on at a mental or spiritual level that 988 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: you feel have positively impacted your physical health well. 989 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 2: Meditation is huge in my opinion, for mental health, but 990 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 2: also if you're wanting to visualize certain results. I feel 991 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 2: like whenever I've been in a place where I needed to, 992 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 2: I've competed, for example, in bodybuilding competitions in the beginning level, 993 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 2: so that I found when it came strictly to like 994 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 2: the physique, if you are it's basically manifestation, you know, 995 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 2: at that cellular level, when you're thinking about the way 996 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 2: that you want to look, or feel or present yourself. 997 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 2: So meditation is huge. I try to incorporate that every 998 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 2: day journaling. I am also gratitude. Every night before going 999 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 2: to bed, I practice gratitude. 1000 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 3: Not sure how that relates to the physique, but it 1001 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 3: relates to the mental ass for your body absolutely absolutely. 1002 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: I had to learn that. I had to learn that 1003 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: I definitely was very grateful for my mind and my 1004 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: intelligence and my abilities, but it always felt like my 1005 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: body was letting me down, and that negative approach to 1006 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 1: my own body only made my body let me down more. Absolutely, 1007 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: It's like someone in your life. If you feel like 1008 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: that person in your life always lets you down, guess. 1009 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,240 Speaker 3: What they're going to let you down because you're gonna look. 1010 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: For that, yeah, exactly. And so I was always talking 1011 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: to my body subconsciously in that way where I was like, oh, 1012 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,479 Speaker 1: my mind is amazing, but my body lets me down, 1013 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: and that my. 1014 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: Words that we use are so important, you know, just 1015 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 2: in the in this recent journey that is shared about 1016 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 2: before with you, that was one of the big lessons 1017 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: that I learned, is the way that sometimes we talk 1018 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: to ourselves. The words that we use, whether they're out 1019 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: loud or even just spoken in silence to ourselves are. 1020 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 3: Huge, are huge. So if you tell yourself, you know, like. 1021 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 2: I hate my body, like I want to change this, 1022 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 2: like I hate I don't know, like my stomach. Like 1023 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 2: that's not coming from a place of love, we are 1024 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 2: less likely to achieve results if they're if that's coming 1025 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 2: from a place of negative sentiments towards yourself. I always 1026 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: that's another thing that I always try to impart on 1027 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 2: whoever I'm working with, especially in person, is like I 1028 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: want us to start from a place of love for ourselves, 1029 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: not from I need to lose twenty pounds, because that 1030 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 2: again comes from like I hate this twenty pounds that's 1031 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 2: on me. But yeah, starting from a place of love 1032 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 2: for wherever we were at and for I want to 1033 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 2: do this because I want to become a healthier version 1034 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 2: of myself. 1035 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: Fantastic, Sonata has been so informative talking to you today. 1036 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: I feel like there's been so many great insights that 1037 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 1: we can I think I'm going to be pulling on 1038 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of your insights to gain drive and gain 1039 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: focus to connect back in with my body because a 1040 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: lot of what you've shared with me has made me 1041 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: realize just how important strength training is, especially in my 1042 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: third is where I am now and how important it's 1043 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: going to be long term, even if I don't feel 1044 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,439 Speaker 1: it right now. So thank you so much. We end 1045 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: every episode with a final five. These have to be 1046 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: answered in one word or one sentence, and so Sonati Grecor, 1047 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: these are your final five. The first is what is 1048 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: the best health or fitness advice you've ever heard or received? 1049 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: Well, the advice not necessarily Well, it's the best advice 1050 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 2: ever was to stay true to myself and to my uniqueness. 1051 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 2: So I don't think it necessarily has to deal with 1052 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 2: that's the first part, but it's to embrace your unique 1053 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 2: self and stay true to it. The advice that I 1054 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 2: would give when it comes to fitness, So it would 1055 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: be to just start, just start. 1056 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever had 1057 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: or received? 1058 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: Stop lifting weights? He'll get you to be masculine and bulky. 1059 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, at the end of the day, it's also. 1060 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 3: Let's not judge people for how they want to look. 1061 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 2: You know, if they want to appear a certain way, 1062 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 2: if that's what drives them, that's what they want. 1063 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 3: Let's allow. 1064 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: Question number three, what's your hope for people in twenty 1065 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,919 Speaker 1: twenty four? 1066 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 2: Just to do everything from a place of love, whatever 1067 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 2: that is. So whether it's working out, nutrition, or anything 1068 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 2: in their life, just start from a place of love 1069 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 2: for themselves and for everybody around them. 1070 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: Question number four, what's the first thing you do in 1071 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: the morning and the last thing you do atnight? 1072 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 2: First thing I meditate? Last thing I say my gratitudes beautiful? 1073 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: And fifth and final question, if you could create one 1074 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: law that everyone in the world had to follow, what 1075 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: would it be? 1076 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 2: I would say because this was one of my biggest 1077 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 2: lesson was to allow. I don't know if it makes sense, 1078 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 2: but one of the biggest lessons for me recently was 1079 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 2: to allow and stop being so much needing to control everything. 1080 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: So maybe this is more on a personal level, but 1081 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 2: I think if we allow for the good in our 1082 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 2: life or the love for the right type of circumstances, 1083 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 2: I think there's so much to gain from that. 1084 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: It's beautiful, Sonata, Thank you so much. 1085 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1086 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: Everyone's been listening or watching. Sonata's app is the we 1087 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Rise app. We can find fitness and helped it and practices, 1088 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: and of course if you don't already, you can follow 1089 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: her on Instagram at at Sonata dot greca. Please go 1090 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: and follow her right now for more fitness tips, for 1091 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: great workouts, to get you started, to get you going. 1092 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: I want twenty twenty four to be a year you're stronger, fitter, 1093 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: and better, and Sonata is going to be a big 1094 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: part of making that happen. Thank you so much, Sad again, 1095 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: thank you. 1096 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 1097 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Energy, I'm so grateful. 1098 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me here. 1099 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 3: I truly appreciate it. Thank you, thank you. 1100 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: If you love this episode, you'll enjoy my conversation with 1101 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Megan Trainer on breaking generational trauma and how to be 1102 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,439 Speaker 1: confident from the inside out. 1103 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 3: My therapist told me stand in the mirror, naked for 1104 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 3: five minutes. 1105 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: It was already tough for me to love my body, 1106 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: but after the C section scar with all the stretch marks. 1107 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 3: Now I'm looking at myself like I've been hacked. 1108 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: But day three, when I did it, I was like, 1109 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: you know what, her thigh is a cute