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Speaker 1: official show on the volume three and out. Welcome. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, happy to be heard, Happy that you're listening.

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Speaker 1: As you can see, like I said, there wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: really nothing really changes for me, uh, which is the

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Speaker 1: great part. Hopefully we'll just help Colin and we grow,

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Speaker 1: we get more people to listen. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of you guys grassroots been telling your friends for years,

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Speaker 1: we've been out this this is our first rodeo. But

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Speaker 1: let's rock and roll before we get into this big

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Speaker 1: football season, which is really right around the corner. And actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a college football guy. I'm sure many

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Speaker 1: people are. They're listening to this. We got some big games.

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Speaker 1: There are two coaches this week that I have circled

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Speaker 1: NFL things that I saw. Obviously, Cam Newton got released.

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Speaker 1: Someone maybe the host of this podcast said that Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton's job was in trouble to Colin earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: this though, and also a Middlecoff mail bag at John

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Speaker 1: you know on the volume, we got some big thinkers.

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Speaker 1: me and I always try to DMU back and definitely

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Speaker 1: read your question here on the show. But let's start

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Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins, and I think it's fair to

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Speaker 1: And Jeff Darlington earlier this week reported that the head coach,

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Speaker 1: two after you draft the guy fifth overall, you have

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Speaker 1: a major freaking problem that is not good. Like if

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Speaker 1: like the Chargers are sniffing around Deshaun Watson, You'd be like,

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Speaker 1: just Belichick, The timing of this move is not very crazy.

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Speaker 1: able to keep playing. So he to me, really benefits

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Speaker 1: from the timing and uh of just where the league's at.

427
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer I've been it feels like I've been bagging

428
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 1: on him for a minute now, and I promise you

429
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: there's zero personal like I I do not. I've never

430
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: met the guy. I really do not care. But it's

431
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: just a guy that had that much use and that

432
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: much power. And Florida and Ohio State are basically NFL programs.

433
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: The money's extreme, the Fames extreme their games that they're

434
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: and bases are extreme, like the University of Florida is

435
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: infinitely more popular than like the Jags in terms of

436
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: fan base. I mean Ohio State. I would imagine Ohio

437
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: State has more fans I'm talking not I'm just talking quantity,

438
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: like actual people that just if you met said I'm

439
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: an Ohio State Buckeyes football fan. I don't know, then

440
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: more than half the NFL. I mean, it's it's it's arguably,

441
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I know, Alabama's probably the best program. I mean it

442
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: is with saving Ohio State is the biggest football program

443
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: I would say in the country. UM and Urban played

444
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: a role even taking it to another level. But in college,

445
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: the players they don't answer to anybody but you and

446
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: depending And I'm sure many people listening to this deal

447
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: with unions, and it comes up a lot in politics

448
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: like why don't we do this, why don't we do that? Well,

449
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: if a union is involved, it becomes very very complicated,

450
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: and no matter how polarizing the issue would be, no,

451
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: it's irrelevant. The union defends their own that is literally

452
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: their job. I watched I'm a sucker for these and

453
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: I just I watch a lot of them. General managers

454
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: press conferences after the fifty three man was announced, and

455
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: I saw countless jams asked about the vaccine vaccination process

456
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: if it played a role in their, you know, deciding

457
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: on their roster. And let's face it, I live in reality,

458
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: you would be naive to think it did not. With

459
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: fringe guys. If a guy is so good like I

460
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: saw Darius Leanard's on back, like obviously your starters, you

461
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: don't give a shit. Hell a good backup, you don't

462
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: care either. But if we're talking about borderline players, which

463
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: on a fifty three man roster, you know that last

464
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Speaker 1: seven or eight guys could probably go either way between

465
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: your practice squad guys, every single one of them said, yeah,

466
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: no factor, no fact. Even Mike Mayock was asked like,

467
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm just a football guy. We we lean football Belichick.

468
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: No right, it's just every single one he said the opposite.

469
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: Of course, every single general manager, you know, I don't

470
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: think wants to say the same thing, but it's thinking

471
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: what he's thinking. But they work in the big leagues.

472
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: They know they have to deal with the union agents.

473
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: Like this is the national football This is in college

474
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: where you just whatever. I'm the head coach. This is

475
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: a big business with a lot of different entities and

476
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: variables that you have to answer to. You are no

477
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: longer the grand puba. It's why within twenty four hours

478
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: the Jags had to come out with a statement basically saying, yeah,

479
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: he didn't mean what he said. He does not understand

480
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: the business, because that's what This is a business where

481
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: the players are represented by the union. Like, how have

482
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: a clue, bro, You don't just get to coach the

483
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: team with your whistle and say whatever you want anymore.

484
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: And I this thing has got off to a very,

485
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: very rocky start. Very he had a fire strength coach.

486
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't know the rules. His his first round pick,

487
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: this isn't his fault is gone for the season. This

488
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: urban thing has been a dumpster fire, a complete dumpster fire.

489
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: And their teams is not very good. So it's just

490
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: not off to a great start. But a lot of

491
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: these things are kind of understandable. He has never had

492
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: to answer to anybody, because by the time he got

493
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: to Ohio State, he was the most powerful guy on campus,

494
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: more powerful than Jane Smith, more powerful even in the president.

495
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: Everyone for that three or four year period answered to him.

496
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: Same thing in his hey day in Florida. That's not

497
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: the case here. You're like, I'm sorry. Some players have

498
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: more juice, Like if the Jags had to pick, they

499
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: would pick if Trevor Lawrence after year one goes NBA

500
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: player says, I can't be around this guy anymore, Bye

501
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: Bye Urban. This is the game's changed. Uh. And the

502
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: last thing is I saw Tony Dungee, who I will

503
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: say over and over, incredible person, better person than me. Right,

504
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: he's a a plus character. But I've often said, like,

505
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, he does nothing for me. On television, he

506
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: says nothing, Like this is television. This is an entertainment product.

507
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: So just to sit a famous guy there to like

508
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: say nothing to me makes no sense. You would be

509
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: better off hiring someone who was less famous but would

510
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: actually say something, and he'd like damn and just kind

511
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: of brings some energy. He brings nothing. But maybe NBC,

512
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they're doing Drew Brees, same thing

513
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: like they don't really go uh, they don't really think

514
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: outside the box. But he said something regarding gambling, and

515
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: he let me read his quotes. This is Tony Dungee

516
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: on the NFL embracing gambling. I don't know why the

517
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: NFL changed it stands. My objection is just personal. So

518
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: he's acknowledging that. I don't think we should encourage people

519
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: who are watching the NFL to gamble, especially young people.

520
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: I've got boys. I want them to enjoy the game

521
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: for what it is. It's a great game, and I

522
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: know people gamble. I know it's legal. I just want

523
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: to see the I just don't want to see the

524
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: NFL promoting it. That's just my personal opinion. I know

525
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that don't agree with that.

526
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: So again, like he's even acknowledging people like me exist

527
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: right here would be my thing the NFL has embraced.

528
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I would argue their main sponsor for a long time

529
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: has been alcohol. Budweiser, Cores Light, Miller Light. You can't

530
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: go to a stadium with you. Do you understand the

531
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: amount of money alcohol companies spend on marketing, especially Budweiser.

532
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: Historically a lot and the NFL has openly to in

533
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: their catch just like every league is as they should.

534
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm in business with an alcohol company,

535
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: but like it's a little disingenuous to be like pick

536
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and choose what's right and wrong. Hell, the NFL is

537
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: in bed with you know, like fast food companies historically,

538
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Like you watch an NFL game, McDonald, you think what's

539
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: worse for Like can we how do you decipher what's

540
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: better and what's worse for you? And listen, if you

541
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: are gambling money you don't have, you can get in trouble.

542
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: It's why when you hear the fan duel reads and

543
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: all these reads, there are disclaimers about you know, gambling

544
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: and like just there's help out there. Be careful with

545
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: your money. But the same could be said about fast food,

546
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: which is terrible for you. Check out the health system.

547
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: There is obviously alcohol. I don't know if you've ever

548
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: heard of alcoholics. Like I just think that anytime something

549
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: new comes in, we just like, oh my god, this

550
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: is the worst thing ever. I don't promotion of gambling

551
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: to young kids like it's gonna be fine, Tony, it

552
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: really is. In he's saying that, like listen, it's personal.

553
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: But it's like, bro, yeah, this would be my thing

554
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: with NBC. I just think you need some new blood,

555
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: just get some younger people. And I'm not always acting

556
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: like younger people or on things. I see younger people

557
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: say things in social media all the time, especially younger

558
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: people that are like have prominent roles, whether they're athletes,

559
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: whether media members that I think are fucking moronic. So

560
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm not like Mr. Always gotta go young over old. Hell,

561
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: most old people have a lot of wisdom. They know

562
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Clearly Tony does too. But on

563
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: this issue, like it, trust me, Tony, it's gonna be

564
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: a revenue source and it's not gonna be as bad

565
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: as you think. I promise you. Okay, let's talk about

566
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: two college football coaches who I think have a lot

567
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: on the line this weekend, and these are two games

568
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: that I can't wait to watch. Let's start with L.

569
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Speaker 1: S U and U C. L a Ato Geron had

570
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Speaker 1: one of the greatest seasons we've ever seen in college

571
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: football history. They went fifteen and oh they beat the

572
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: crap out of everybody they produced. I mean, it feels

573
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: like fifty first round picks. Star quarterbacks, receivers, running backs, lineman,

574
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: defensive player, you name. They had it all and they

575
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: were an all time statistically. They're gonna translate forever. The

576
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: eye test will never forget him. It was badass. Here's

577
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: the problem when you have leader head coaches that aren't

578
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: scheme oriented right you like Saban is ultimately now a

579
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: CEO head coach, but when it comes to knowing the defense,

580
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: he knows every play goal. And if you don't think

581
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: he knows the offensive concepts, you're out of your mind.

582
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Edo Geron is to me closer to like a John Harbaugh,

583
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: And I think John Harbad knows more football than Edo,

584
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: but hardball is big. He's a he's a motivator. He'll

585
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: bring like a samurai sword in the locker room with

586
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: like a with like a tree stump and cut a

587
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: cut a tree and onto the guys. He'll just do

588
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: crazy motivational stuff. He just fires guys up. That's kind

589
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: of Eddie's role. He is very dependent on his coordinators.

590
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: When he's had good coordinators. The Ravens have been good

591
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: right now, Greg Roman, Wink Martindale, they're good right. And

592
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: he leads the squad and motivates them all and they've

593
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: been winning games. At Ogeron two years ago. Had the

594
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: head coach of Baylor was his defensive coordinator. Joe Brady

595
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator. He obviously had a quarterback and

596
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: L s U you know, hasn't normally had a quarterback. Well,

597
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: here's what I know about L. S U. And this

598
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: is why when you look back on Les Miles, it

599
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: was like, got it. He had Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry.

600
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: He's had all these players and they were always so

601
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: terrible on offense, You're like, no, wonder they underachieved. And

602
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: knowing people at Alabama, they always thought that L. S

603
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: U underachieved. And finally with ed Oh for that one

604
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: year they achieved. Then he got a big extension. Rightfully,

605
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: so you deserve to get extended when you win a

606
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: national championship. It was an all time great season. Beat Alabama.

607
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: It was badass. We all acknowledge it was badass. Things changed, though,

608
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: and people forget the past. I was thinking about that

609
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: the other day. You know, it's two thousand twenty one.

610
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: You know, if you have friends or people in your

611
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: life or even yourself that are constantly holding onto things

612
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: from like the two thousand's or the you know, hell

613
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: like even like two thousand twelve, like that's ten years

614
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: ago almost. You know, you gotta look forward, Nick Saban.

615
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: They have pictures and stuff in the offices. But if

616
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: you think Nick Saban is like bragging the people about

617
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: the two thousand fourteen teams, like, no, he's one Belichick.

618
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: You think Belichick gives two ships about the three Super

619
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: Bowls he won in the last decade. He is focused

620
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: on here and now, and most coaches are And I'm

621
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: not saying Eddio is holding on. I think he is

622
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: completely focused on the present and trying to win. Now.

623
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the people that ultimately sign us checks,

624
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: which is the boosters, the athletic department. This game against

625
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: u C l A, I got news for you, being

626
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: a West Coast guy. Our football soft it just is,

627
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a reflection right now of the culture.

628
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Now our NFL football isn't but off but collegiately, like

629
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve has fallen off a cliff. No one

630
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: argues that they deserve the heat. They've gotten. The SEC

631
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: laughs at us, laughs at us about the style of play.

632
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: But last year, knowing some coaches that are in the SEC.

633
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: Alabama played like fourteen games. I think the PAC twelve

634
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: canceled the season basically, and then they started it up

635
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: with the Big tent that was never gonna happen in

636
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Speaker 1: the Big twelve, the SEC, in the a SEC, there

637
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Speaker 1: is not one power broker at l s U that

638
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: will view U c l A even close to as

639
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: an equal, let alone someone that should be on the

640
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: same field as them. And I don't mean obviously you

641
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: scheduled those games. I just mean once the game starts,

642
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: if you just ask the random L s U and

643
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: they would U c l A. We should kick the

644
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: ship out of them. And honestly, from a talent standpoint,

645
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: they should pretty easily beat them. But I don't know

646
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: if they will. Like they obviously have two new coordinators,

647
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure, they got displaced with the hurricane.

648
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: I think they had to go to Houston now they're

649
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: coming out. I think from a talent standpoint, they should win.

650
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: But I know this, if they do not win that game,

651
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: for a guy that just won, you know, a national,

652
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: the best national championship they've ever won. I mean, they

653
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 1: undefeated best, one of the best teams of all time,

654
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: people will forget and you lose this game to the

655
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: soft U c l A Bruins and Chip Kelly, that

656
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: is not gonna fly in SEC country. And in fairness

657
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: to the people that it wouldn't fly with, it shouldn't

658
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: l s U should not only not lose this game,

659
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: they should be able to establish dominance. And if you

660
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: can't beat Chip Kelly and a probably you know, a

661
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: seven eight win U c l A team, you got

662
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: problems and you can start asking yourself, can we really

663
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: beat long term? Like everything had to come together with

664
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: Ed and that team that might never happen again. Think

665
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: how long it took for Hardbaugh John that is to

666
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: get from that two thousand twelve team to Lamar Jackson.

667
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Like Ed is not going to get that runway. He

668
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: just won't. So he better win this weekend. And the

669
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Speaker 1: other guy, Now this is not as important as at

670
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: O drawn because he's this is the first game he's

671
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: ever coached for Texas. But Steve Sarkisian was escorted out

672
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: of the USC building. And whether it was alcohol, drug,

673
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've heard different things. I've had people

674
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: that know him they were adamant it wasn't whatever. That's

675
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: clearly somewhat that put in the backburn. We don't judge

676
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Sark on his lowest moment because he went to Atlanta

677
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: that he went to Alabama and he changed kind of

678
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: the narrative around him, which he earned. Same thing with Lane,

679
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: same thing with Lane, but Lane leaving Alabama had to

680
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: go to some school that, honestly most of us had

681
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: never heard of. In Florida. I'm still in Florida Atlantic,

682
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Florida Central. I don't even off top my head. I

683
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: have to google it. I think it's Florida f A U.

684
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Before he got the Old Miss job, and let's face it,

685
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: everyone in the right mind would take the Texas job

686
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: overall Miss, even though Old Miss is not a terrible job.

687
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Sweet conference, you're allowed to cheat. Um, not that Texas

688
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: really isn't, but Texas a better job. We all, even

689
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: an Old Miss fan, you know, if we were being

690
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: honest with each other, would admit that. Well. Sark gets

691
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: his first game like a little like l s U

692
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: U C l A. He's playing, but the difference that

693
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: he's not even playing a Power five opponent. He's playing

694
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: playing Louisiana Lafayette, who just if you don't follow college

695
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: football that offer like Texas Louisiana Lafayette, Texas gonna kill him.

696
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: Louisiana Lafayette has been one of the better Nonpower five

697
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: programs for the last couple of years. Their head coach,

698
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: who actually I met when I went through collar out

699
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: of state when I was scouting, because Jim mcwaine, who

700
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: just got the job, was with him at Alabama. Brought

701
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: him to Alabama. Billy Napier, who has been turning down

702
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: SEC jobs, jobs like Baylor and Big twelve jobs. He

703
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: is going to get, like Sark, a job like Texas

704
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: or Miami or something, you know, something in that cut

705
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: Florida state right, uh a Georgia. I'm not saying George

706
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: is coming open, but you get my draft like he

707
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: is gonna get a big boy job and his team

708
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: is established and good. Now, Texas should have better players

709
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: in Louisiana Lafayette. Obviously on paper they do, but last

710
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: I looked, it was an eight point line. I like

711
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: Louisiana Lafayette, and I don't think it's inconceivable that Louisiana

712
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: Lafayette beats Texas. Now, do you're not getting fired or anything?

713
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's getting several years on the job, but

714
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: first impressions matter. So if you're telling me your first

715
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: impression as a Texas head coach is losing to a

716
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: non I power program, like I think that happened to Saban,

717
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: I forget the team. If any Alabama fan listening knows

718
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: he lost, I think the first game he ever played

719
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: against some random team. But he ended up win a

720
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: national championships, No big deal, and he's Nick freaking Saban.

721
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: He had already won a national championship at l s U.

722
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: The differences and listen, if I met Sark, I don't

723
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: know if I actually ever met personally Sark. I know

724
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: people that I know that no him, really like him

725
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: and probably cool. Hang. I don't know sober now, but

726
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: you know sober people. You know alcoholic glady sober but

727
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: fun hang uh even sober. I would imagine the thing

728
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: and see when he was in Seattle at the U

729
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: dub at University of Washington, and then when he got

730
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: to USC it didn't look that great. So I saw

731
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Speaker 1: Nick when he coached, and he went to Alabama like

732
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: he was sweet. He dominated l s U. Sark kind

733
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: of underachieved at the University of Washington, they were recruiting

734
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: a ton of players, and they struggled to win more

735
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: than seven games. When he got to USC before the

736
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: incident happened at the team meeting and he got yanked

737
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: out and ultimately fired. Their team was not that good.

738
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: So it's not like you were just when Chris Peterson

739
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: got the Washington job with all of Starks players, he

740
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: started winning immediately. So I just think, I know everyone

741
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: likes this guy and he was awesome at Alabama. Well

742
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: guess what they had Mac Jones to uh, they had

743
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: a million first rounders, Nagy Harris, all the wide receivers.

744
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: A little different animal. Now, it's just not gonna be

745
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: as easy. So you lose week one of your coaching

746
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: career at this new university where football clearly matters, matters

747
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: a lot, and they always feel like what could have

748
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: should have? You know this that they always find a

749
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: way to underachieve, and then you don't win your first

750
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: game against a Nonpower five opponent. It's just that that'll

751
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: be kind of an elephant in the room that it

752
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: will carry with him for a while until he wins

753
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: big because let's face it, he's probably not beating Lincoln

754
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: Riley for a years like that, that's not happening. You

755
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: might lose and once I get the SEC, like, who

756
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: knows when that's gonna happen. I would imagine sooner than later.

757
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: That might be next season. It's not out of the

758
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: realm possibility that they are playing in the SEC. I

759
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: know all everything that's been reported next year because ship talks,

760
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, ship walks, money talks, a ton of money

761
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: in the line. What's the point Like, if you're getting

762
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: a divorce, there's no point in staying in the same

763
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: home together for four years, like move out right, And

764
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I think I'd be shocked if they're not both there

765
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: by max two years. I know they've got five more

766
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: years on the TV. That thing's gonna get ripped up

767
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: and then it's gonna get really hard for him. So

768
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, keep an eye on Adio and Steve Sarkasa. Okay,

769
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag, you guys know the drill at John Middlecoff.

770
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: Little thing they'd like to call my name, And I

771
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: put at in front of it because that's what I

772
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: guess you gotta do on the internet streets and it

773
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: creates this thing called Instagram and you slide up in

774
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: Instagram and you get your question answered. Okay, let's start

775
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: with with Austin. I'm gonna try to save some of

776
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: your guys, uh, your handles, so I can utilize you

777
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: guys through social media. See if we can do this

778
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: from your home turf, Yolo County. Currently live in Winters.

779
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: Hugh's huge fan of the pod, listening since last football season.

780
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: My question for you is something I haven't heard a

781
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: lot of people talk about, but probably will become relevant

782
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: by mid season. What do you think the chances the

783
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: Raiders part way part ways? With Gruden ending the season

784
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: following another poor performance. He hasn't come close to the

785
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: playoffs in three seasons and their team is gonna be

786
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: probably mediocre at best, and Mayk is definitely expecting a

787
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: playoff appearance soon. I think he said that yesterday he

788
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: traded away all their stud talent in leadership right out

789
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: of the eight and has nothing to show for it

790
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: since that, my friend, is a good question. Here's what

791
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: I would say. I don't know if you saw the

792
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: uh the thing going viral is Mark Davis's house. Mark

793
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: Davis is gonna buy or not buy. He's going to

794
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: build fourteen million dollar house and in Vegas. I mean,

795
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: that's probably the equivalent in like a Chicago, New York,

796
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, major city, probably twenty eight million dollars, you know,

797
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: So it's whatever Vegas money is is very cheap relative

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00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: to like, you know, bigger cities. Right his, that same

799
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: house in the Bay Area would probably be fifty you know,

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00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: l a fifty He's building this just it's unlike anything

801
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Really, when I saw it, I thought

802
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: it was their offices, but it's a house, And I

803
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: think this The Raiders are are in a weird spot.

804
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: They just moved, and they're coming to a market which

805
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: has never had pro sports. I'm talking major pro sports.

806
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 1: They've had minor league stuff. But right before they got there,

807
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: a hockey team went. And I grew up in you know,

808
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: in Davis, but you know, it's closer to Sacramento than

809
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: let's say San Francisco. Now when I grow up the

810
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Niners and the Giants. Most people are fans of those teams,

811
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: or the Giants, or the A's or the Raiders. But

812
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: we had a basketball team, right the Sacramento Kings, and

813
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings in the city of Sacramento were enormous.

814
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: They got coverage like they were a baseball, basketball football

815
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: team combined. They were. They were like Alabama football in Tuscaloosa, right,

816
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: they were all that mattered. So when you get a

817
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: team like even if let's say the A's, who might

818
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: actually move to Vegas too, which is kind of ironic

819
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: because the Raiders and A's always butted heads, But it

820
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: turns out it's just because of whack job politicians and

821
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: the shitty place where they played. But if the A's

822
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: moved to Sacramento and they won't, I mean, there's way

823
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: more money in Vegas, they would be treated like a

824
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: really really big deal. Now they win, So this analogy

825
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: won't work perfectly, but they would sell out. They would

826
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of interest. But if the Kings were good,

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00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: they were there first, they would just people just gravitate

828
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Speaker 1: their first. And that the Las Vegas got a hockey team,

829
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: and that hockey team the moment they got there. They

830
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: went to the Stanley Cup Finals, and I heard I

831
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: was listening to on the radio, heard this NHL guy

832
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: talk during the playoffs, and he thought that the that

833
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: the Vegas hockey team, of all the playoff teams in

834
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: the NHL had the best home ice advantage. People are

835
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: going nuts. I mean just YouTube some like opening you

836
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: know before the puck drops. I don't even know what

837
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: the lingo is in the NHL. People are very have

838
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, just fervor towards the NHL team,

839
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: as they should. They finally got a team. Football is

840
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: massive in Vegas. Why because we gamble And I'm like

841
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee, we love to gamble. I've been Tony, I've

842
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: been gamble on. So it was like Bro's trust me.

843
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: Look where I ended up. I don't know if that's

844
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: a good thing or a bad thing, but they have

845
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: to win. I think here's the problem. They got some

846
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: financial stuff that is just a little more complicated than

847
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: a lot of other teams, and there is pressure even

848
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: though Mark Davis like gets to control the stadium. The

849
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: casinos are funding the stadium and they're paying him all

850
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: the money for the sweets, Like he's in bed with

851
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: the casinos as anyone that moves to Vegas will be.

852
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: He should be. But they're gonna have some juice like

853
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: if this isn't working, like do they pressure him a

854
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: little booster style like college football to get rid of John. Now,

855
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: I do not think Jon Gruden would get fired after

856
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: year four. He's got a ten year contract. I do

857
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: think if you got past like year five and John

858
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: hadn't been to the playoffs because he's gonna keep coaching

859
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: and just getting his ass kicked, I could see John

860
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Gruden is so rich. He was already rich before he

861
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: took Mark Davis's hundred million dollars. And it's not like

862
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: he took the hundred million dollars over a ten year period.

863
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's inconceivable to think, like Jon

864
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: Gruden five years they missed the playoffs all five years,

865
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: leaves just quits and obviously ESPN would immediately take them back.

866
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I I think there is little

867
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: to no chance they make the playoffs. The a f

868
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: C is dramatically better than the NFC we saw last year.

869
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: The Raiders were actually pretty solid. They missed the playoffs

870
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: by three games, three like that's it's one thing to

871
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs by a game, missed it by three,

872
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: and it took eleven to get in the a f C.

873
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: And their defense is terrible, so I think it's not

874
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty Kevin longtime listener of the show props

875
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: in your scoop with the potential Cam Newton being straight

876
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: up cut before the season. I wouldn't call it a scoop.

877
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: I'd call it a It was intuition. Educated guests just

878
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: follow the league long enough. Um I caught a lot

879
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: of people by surprise. North blah blah blah. As a

880
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Patriots fan, there are certainly shades of Brady and Mac Jones.

881
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: Kid is as cool as a cucumber? Or cucumber is

882
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: really that cool? Maybe I haven't been around a cucumber

883
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: in a long time. Do they feel cool when you

884
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: when you open up or you gotta put him in

885
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: the refrigerator to cool him up? Just is that just

886
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: one of those things that we say that doesn't actually like,

887
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, they say, what's a burden? A bird in

888
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: the hands better than two in the bush? Like how

889
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: many people have birds in their hands? Right? I don't know.

890
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: Kid is as cool as a cucumber? Would like an

891
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: unbiased opinion. Do you think New England has an outside

892
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: chance of winning the a f C East making a

893
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: playoff run and Mac being a Rookie of the Year.

894
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: I certainly do well think about it like this. Belichick

895
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: plays the Bills really close. Remember they almost beat him

896
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: last year and Cam fumbled the ball, so he One

897
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: thing Belichick will know better than every single coach is

898
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: his own division. He's been with the Patriots now twenty

899
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: plus years. He knows every player in that division like

900
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: the back of his hand. Strengths, weaknesses, scheme, he knows

901
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: it all. So he is well equipped if his quarterback

902
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: plays well to have success in the division. Now, the

903
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: division is better than it's been right over Brady's time

904
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: because the Bills are legit, the Dolphins are solid, the

905
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Jet suck. But like those two two, that's four games.

906
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: I think if he could just go four and two

907
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: in the division. Yeah, Now, I do think the Bills

908
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: have a higher upside because at the end of the day,

909
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: can Mac if your defense has a couple of bad games,

910
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: can he carry you? I know Josh Allen? Can I

911
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: know Josh Allen can throw five touchdowns? Can Mac? I

912
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: don't know that. That would be my thing. I would

913
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: say I would pick the Bills, but I would pick

914
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots to finish second that division, so I would

915
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: go Bills. Maybe we'll get into this on like Monday, spot,

916
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: but that would be I would say I would say

917
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: no on the division, but I would feel pretty confident

918
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: about them competing for a wild card and making a

919
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: wild card. I'd pick him to make the playoffs. Lifelong

920
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Rams fan, I just wanted to know what your real,

921
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: realistic expectations are for them. Our weapons are really solid,

922
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: but our online depth is concerning. Also with the loss

923
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: of Troy Hill and John Johnson, the third good first name,

924
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: I feel like our defense will take a step back.

925
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Curious to hear your thoughts, big fan of the show,

926
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: Well you have a new coordinator, right and say what

927
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: you want. Brandon Staley was a star. He was there

928
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: one year and their defense kicked ass and he became

929
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: a head coach immediately. And let's face it, like he

930
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: got he was filling big shoes literally and figuratively in

931
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: Bum Phillips Wade Phillips. I think a son of a

932
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: son of bum is his Twitter handle because he's not bummed.

933
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: That was his dad. R I p but and McVeigh

934
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: moved on and he nailed it. And I bet if

935
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: you would have known McVeigh last year going into the season,

936
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: he'd be like, how's your defensive coordinators like this guy

937
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: is everything is advertised. He would never in a million

938
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: years I thought that guy was gonna get a head

939
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: coaching job one and done a defensive coach. But he did,

940
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: and it happened to be there. I don't even know

941
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: if Brandon Dally had to move, so it's like your

942
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: defense is probably taking a step back. But here's where

943
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: the kicker comes in. They made an all time great trade.

944
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: Now do you love getting up two first round picks?

945
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: Ideally know, but Jared Goff from Matt Stafford and I listen.

946
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm not some Jared Goff hater. I don't love his ability,

947
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: but I'm a fan. He's a He's a barrier guy.

948
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: I've been watching him since he was like eighteen years old.

949
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: I want him to have success. But when it comes

950
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: to him verse Matt Stafford, they are not even in

951
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: the same conversation. They do not have much in common.

952
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Beside they play at the same position. In terms of

953
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: physical characteristics, they really have nothing in common. And I

954
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: think Stafford could be a game changer for the franchise.

955
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: I think Matt Stafford could get your offense like stupid

956
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: potent in the passing game and he's he's had success

957
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: throwing the ball with I mean obviously Calvin Johnson, Golden Dated,

958
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: he also plays with some random guys in Detroit hit

959
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: Their problem there defense has been terrible. Well, their defense again,

960
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: even if it's not the number one overall defense can

961
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: still be solid. And they've never had a run game

962
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: in Detroit. What does Sean McVeigh do pretty well scheme

963
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: the run game? Now, they had to trade for Sony

964
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: Michelle because they lost cam Akers, but they'll be able

965
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: to run the ball. I I think the ram is

966
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty freaking good. How do you evaluate college

967
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: coaches as a scout outside of Saban, Riley Fitzgerald and

968
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: about a dozen others. Aren't most college football coaches only

969
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: as good as their program? Uh? That's a good question.

970
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: I would say no, they're not, because, for example, you

971
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: go to like Chris Peterson when he was at Boise,

972
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: or Luke Fickle when he was at Cincinnati, or I'm

973
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: trying to think of a smaller Power five program. Dan

974
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: Mullen when he was at Mississippi State is a good example.

975
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: When you can go to programs that don't consistently win

976
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: or don't you know, boys he consistently wins, but like,

977
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: take him to another level. Cincinnati was good, take him

978
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: to another level. Brian Kelly did it well. Brian Kelly

979
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: is pretty freaking good. What happened? He went to Notre Dame.

980
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: He has had a lot of success. Chris Peterson kicked

981
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: everyone's acid boys. What happened? You got to Washington job?

982
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: He was good? Right now, it doesn't always work. Scott

983
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: Frost a good example, but I would say, the dude,

984
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: Iowa State right now, like in my lifetime, you don't

985
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: look like Iowa Stay could make the playoffs. Like people

986
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: are saying that, the smart college football people are saying that,

987
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: And there's a reason he's interviewing for jobs like Baylor

988
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: got to the Big twelve championship two and a half

989
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: years after a crazy sexual assault scandal. I was like, yeah,

990
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: this guy is a big time head coach. You know,

991
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: either Gnat hired, hired by the NFL, or he's going

992
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: to get another sweet college job. And I think part

993
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: of it is when you are developing NFL players, Like

994
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: what Sabans doing is remarkable, but let's face it, every

995
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: program in the country would have taken guys like Henry Ruggs,

996
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, Naja Harris, like to a tongue, Vyla, Jalen Hurt.

997
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: Like the guys he's recruiting. He is recruiting against the

998
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: cream of the crop? Right, who are the other like

999
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: he really recruits probably against I would say five teams

1000
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: L s U, Georgia, Florida, Clemson, Ohio State, like wh

1001
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: who else could even compete? Like, Hey, you want to

1002
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: go play at Penn State or Alabama? Like go to Alabama?

1003
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: Like I would say, beside four or five programs, I

1004
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: don't even think it would be a contest with Nick.

1005
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: And you could argue Nick doesn't really have that much competition.

1006
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, he's getting dudes from California. But when

1007
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: I go to when I go to Iowa State and

1008
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: I am getting two and three stars and then I

1009
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: turned them into into NFL players, guys that are getting

1010
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: drafted in the top hundred picks. You could argue that's

1011
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: equally as impressive as someone who gets I don't know,

1012
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: a top ten overall recruit. Let's just use a bossa

1013
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: brother a Miles Garrett and a guy like that and

1014
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: then turns him into a top ten pick like that

1015
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: is impressive, but kind of what he should have done, right.

1016
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: What happens when you get a three star guy and

1017
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: then turn him into a stud And when I was

1018
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: at Frisson State, Pat Hill did that. For a decade.

1019
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: He was getting guys that's best offer was like Washington State,

1020
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: and then he turned him into a top four round pick.

1021
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: That's impressive, It really is, because I remember I was

1022
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: I was telling someone this week. When I was at

1023
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: Frisson State, we had Ryan Matthews, and I remember like

1024
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: the first couple of training camp practices I went to

1025
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: as just like a member of the staff thinking like Jesus,

1026
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy is incredible, and he was.

1027
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: He ended up being a top fIF team pick two

1028
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: years later. But I'll never forget like once I got

1029
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: farther and farther into the program and you kind of

1030
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: know all the secrets. One of the reasons Ryan Matthews

1031
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: ended up at President State is because his g p

1032
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: A was terrible. He was not eligible for uh, you know,

1033
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: most programs, the Pack twelve, every team was off of

1034
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: and mainly the big ones like Pete Carroll Well, Pat

1035
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: Hill and some of his staff worked to get him eligible.

1036
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: They helped him out as senior in high school, like

1037
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: you know, worked with him to do online classes. Ryan

1038
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: to do a lot of a lot of work. He

1039
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: had to get higher grades on tests, and he ultimately

1040
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: did to become eligible to play Division one football. The

1041
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: moment word got out that Ryan Matthews was eligible, Pete

1042
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: Carroll called him and offered him a scholarship. Ryan loyal guy,

1043
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: stayed committed to President State. But like even Pat would

1044
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: tell you, like, yeah, Ryan's one of the best players

1045
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: I ever had in the program. But to me, he's

1046
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: not the guy, right, It's more like a Derek Carr

1047
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: or a Logan Mankins, people that, like other programs are

1048
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: not offering scholarships too, and then you develop and turned

1049
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: into a really good player. Boys, he made a you know,

1050
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: they've made their program out of doing that. So I

1051
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: I think that's how you evaluate as a front office

1052
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: if you were thinking about hiring him. Because my beef,

1053
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: like everyone acts like Chip is some all time great coach.

1054
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Like I think Harbor and what what

1055
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Harbon Pete did in the Pac ten at the time

1056
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: Pack twelve was more impressive than what Chip did because

1057
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm probably more of a hater on

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00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: Chip than I am definitely urban. My iron name care

1059
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: Oregon was good. Oregon was a consistent top twenty program,

1060
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: Top twenty. Now Chip took him into like the top five.

1061
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: But if you remember correctly, Pete left, then Jim left,

1062
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: and the conference sucked. The conference was bad. It's it's

1063
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: just it's not as top heavy anymore, but it's more

1064
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: spread out now. Chip was killing a bunch of bad teams,

1065
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: like he didn't have to beat Pete Carroll, Jeff Tedford

1066
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: got fired. The count was not any good anymore. Stanford

1067
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: Stanford was still solid. He beat them okay at but

1068
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: like Pete Carroll and Hardball, USC was terrible. When Pete

1069
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: took him over Hardball, I'm pretty sure took over a

1070
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: one and eleven program, Like that's really impressive. And those

1071
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: guys you know, went to the NFL. Obviously Pete was

1072
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: more sustainable, but like what they did was impressive. Chiefs

1073
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: fan here, You think Patrick Mahomes could get to Brady

1074
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: level at the end of his career, Uh? I would

1075
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean from just an all time resume standpoint, I

1076
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: would say no. I mean, I Tom's has seven Super Bowls,

1077
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: now one thing I do think Pat could do is

1078
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: win like four m v p s. But if Pat Mahomes,

1079
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: let's say Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid win two more

1080
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowls in the next five years, he'd have three

1081
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: super Bowls in the first what's he going into your five?

1082
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: So in the first ten years of his career kind

1083
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: of like Tom, I mean Tom at three, Tom got

1084
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: four more, four more. Here's the other thing. Tom and

1085
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Bill got together when Bill Bills like what sixty eight? Now,

1086
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: when Tom and Bill got together as twenty years ago,

1087
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: Bill would have been forty late forties, right, and he's

1088
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: already in his I think he's like sixty three or

1089
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: sixty four or sixty two. Maybe not trying to not trying.

1090
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: If you're listening to coach, I'm not trying to overextend

1091
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: your age. Maybe you're sixty one. But if if Andy

1092
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: was fifty, I would say, yeah, I mean, maybe they

1093
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: could win. Maybe they can win five together, five total. Five.

1094
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's incredible, We're never seeing what Tom

1095
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: did again. Ever. Look at how like, listen, I'm not

1096
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: the biggest lebron guy, but he got to four and really,

1097
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: let's face it, three the bubble ones. I got red flag.

1098
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: But like for it's a lot Michael one six. It's

1099
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: hard to win six. It's hard to win seven. I'd

1100
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: lean no, I'd lean no. I'd say if Mahomes can't

1101
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: get to three, that's an all time career. I mean,

1102
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: look at look at Rogers. Now, Andy's better than any

1103
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: coach Rogers they've had. But it's just hard to win. Man.

1104
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: The Eagles are kind of a mystery. This is from Jared.

1105
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: The Eagles are kind of a mystery this year. But

1106
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: I listened to the Eagle Eye podcast with Philly reporters

1107
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: Ruben Frank and Dave Zanga Zangaro. I don't know. Maybe

1108
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: if I'm screwing up your name there, David, my bad.

1109
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: They say Jalen Hurst keeps getting better and better, and

1110
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: the young receivers are as well. Do you think the

1111
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: Eagles could surprise some people this year? Well, I actually

1112
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: think their roster is better than the way everyone's talking

1113
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: about him. Their offensive line is really good. Their defensive

1114
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: line is fantastic, So they're good in the lines. Now

1115
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: the rest of their defense, I don't know's any good.

1116
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: I've heard really good things about Gannon the defensive coordinator.

1117
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: He's got I was watching some of his press conference

1118
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: the other day. He's like the skinny, he's got his

1119
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: chisel jawline. I've heard he's like an up and comer.

1120
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: But their dB and their linebackers not great. But they've

1121
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: got a great defensive line. Offensively, beside the offensive line,

1122
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: they have skill guys. They have two tight ends. God,

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01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: it's a good player. Obviously it's a good player. They

1124
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: do have a lot of young wide receivers. I mean,

1125
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: Davante Smith should be pretty good early reagor. I mean

1126
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of been up and down, and you've seen

1127
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: the highlights in camp. He can make spectacular plays like

1128
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: those two those are two first round picks. Then the

1129
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: one kid who against the Steelers, Max I always screw

1130
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: up his name, who's like runs like a four one

1131
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: forty is pretty good too. And then you got Miles

1132
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: Sanders who's a good running back. And I've heard the

1133
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: same thing like this. Jalen Hurts has gotten a lot better.

1134
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: So if he could just be solid, they have talent

1135
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: on their team, like the problem for the Giants, for example,

1136
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: Like I keep saying, if Daniel Jones a solid, their

1137
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: offensive line sucks. So when you have a bad offensive line,

1138
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: it's hard for a young quarterback to kind of ever

1139
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: get it anywhere. He's always running for his life. And

1140
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Daniel Jones would actually ever get anywhere,

1141
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: but it's difficult when you just you can't depend on

1142
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: guys blocking for you. That's not gonna be an issue

1143
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. It's just not like their their lines

1144
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: are good. It's just an organization, you know, organizational philosophy.

1145
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: They've always drafted heavy the offensive linement and defensive alignement,

1146
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: and to me, it's the way to go. I mean,

1147
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: a lot of good teams do. But the coach, like I,

1148
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's ever called a

1149
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: play in the league, right, He's been an offensive coordinator

1150
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: for teams with a head coach who was the play caller.

1151
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: That would be my question mark. But I do think

1152
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: their roster and if Sirianni is just solid, yeah, they

1153
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: could be. They could be better than people think. I

1154
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: would say that's a team that everyone's kind of shipping

1155
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: on that I've come around a little bit. I just

1156
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: now I don't know if if they if Doug was

1157
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: their coach, I'd be like, you know, I wouldn't sleep

1158
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: on this team win the division. Sirianni might stink. He might,

1159
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: he might. I have no clue. But if he's solid,

1160
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: they could be decent. If he's good, Uh, it's crazy,

1161
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound they could win the division. That that

1162
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: would be. I don't think that would be if he

1163
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: was like a Sean McVeigh or a Floor or Kyle type,

1164
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: which you know, most guys aren't, right, most guys aren't

1165
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening. Have a fantastic weekend, enjoy the games,

1166
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: have some cocktails, don't let Tony dungee, don't listen know Tony,

1167
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, Let's just let's have some fun. Let's enjoy

1168
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: the weekend. See you guys next week. The volume