1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: Chief strategy officer. He is Paul de Podesta joining us. Paul, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking the time. I guess from 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: your vantage point, what does game week mean for you? 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: You've spent all off season kind of helping curate this roster. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: To this point, we've delivered it. We have a fifty three. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: What is this week like for you? 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: It's a little like getting ready for Christmas. You know, 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: we've been waiting for a long time. Not only was 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: it a long offseason just because of the I think 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: the case that last season left in our mouth. There 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: was also a long training camp. You know, we had 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: an extra week we played in the Hall. 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: Of Fame Game. So I think we're. 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Always ready to go every year, but this year I 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: think we're especially ready. Paul. 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 4: As you put together this roster, what were kind of 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: the overriding themes going into the off season, the player 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: acquisition period and now that you've gotten to see it 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: through some of the preseason, through those joint practices that 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: Philly through this long as you mentioned training camp. 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Sure, you know, I think it's a little different on 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: offense and defense. On offense, we've been We've been a 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: very productive offense the last three years. We have an 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: experienced team, We have a lot of pieces in place, 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: and obviously the biggest change from last year this year 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: was just having our quarterback from the beginning of the season, 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: one that we would expect to be with us the 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: whole year. So, you know, the changes were relatively minor, 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: or I should say, relatively targeted. You know. Elijah Moore 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: was obviously a big piece, you know, for us that 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: we want to go out and get. But for the 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: most part, you know, the offense was was largely in 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: place personnel wise, so as a matter of increase in 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: the depth, we're able to you know, get some young 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: players on our offensive line in the draft. We also 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: got a nice young wide receiver, so you know, we 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: did some things that we think are going to help us, 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: you know, longer, you know, longer term. Defensively, it's quite different, 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: right we were going to a different scheme, a new 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, and we really wanted to do some things 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: that would tailor our roster to his approach, and that 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: really meant a focus on the on the d line, 43 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: you know, and and you know, we'd always in the 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: past tried to find some running partners for Miles you know, 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: from going back to Olivier Vernon to then Gendevian Clowney 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. But this year and then 47 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: we spread some resources. 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: Around, you know, to other parts of the defense. 49 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: And then this year I think we focused even more 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: on the defensive interior, brought in some big pieces with 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Dalvin Tomlinson and Shelby Harris, but also built up our 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: depth there. I think we're excited about Mohurst and even 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: Tristan Hill, you know, is our practice squad, but you know, 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: guys that were brought in, and then you know made 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: uh made a big move at safety too with with 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: Juan Thornhill. But I think the emphasis was really upfront 57 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, we we expect that to pay 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: dividends hopefully right away, but you know, certainly over the 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: course of the next four or five months. 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: Nathan. I remember certainly when the Eagles came in and 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: when they got off the bus and we went, oh, okay, 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's a little different on the on the 63 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: defense and offensive line than what we were accustomed to. 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: You fast forward and you go back now just a 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks in Philly, and you saw that transformation 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: up front what did you see, because in in preseason, 67 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: you know, it's really those against the other team where 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: you really get those inner squad stuff or the matchups 69 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: with the opposing team where you get a real feel 70 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: where your team is. We and obviously look great to us. 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: What did you learn from your team over in Philly? 72 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's you know, great opportunity for us 73 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: both last year and this year because just such a 74 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: quality organization, have so many good players on both sides 75 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: of the ball. But you know, they're also in the 76 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: other division and run some things a little differently than 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: we do. So it's a it's a good look, you 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: know for our guys again on both sides of the ball. 79 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: So but you know, I. 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: Think we are. 81 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: We're constructed at least somewhat similarly in terms of you know, 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: they're obviously very very strong upfront, as you noted, on 83 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. Our strength, you know, the 84 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: last couple of years or last handful has certainly been 85 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: our O line. Yeah, there are obviously lots of different pieces, 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: you know, of these teams that differ, but in terms 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: of philosophically, I think we we align. 88 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: You know, there are a lot of good teams. 89 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: That aren't necessarily built that way, you know, but we have. 90 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: This inherent strength in our line and it's. 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, what else can we do with that? 92 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: How do we sort of build that out? And the 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: Eagles are uh yeah, they're a great mama follow. I mean, 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: they've been hugely successful for a long time. So you know, 95 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: I think we looked at them and you know, we 96 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: able to as you noticed in the twenty twenty two practices. 97 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: We were able to note some of our. 98 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: Deficiencies and say, okay, let's you know, let's see if 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: we can attack those. And then bringing Jim Schwartz in 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: it was sort of the the perfect fit, you know, 101 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: for us to go forward and do that. 102 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: Well, we talked a little offense, tackle, little defense. We've 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: got to talk a little special teams. Paul kind of 104 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: take us through the decision process with CADE York and 105 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 4: then how that led you to when you could have 106 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 4: had anybody out there that Dustin Hopkins was the that 107 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: the Browns wanted to bring in to kick for them 108 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three. 109 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: Sure, well, look it was a difficult decision. I think, uh, 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: you know, the entire organization thinks the world of Cadh. 111 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: I think he's going to have a really really. 112 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: Good, if not stellar, NFL career, and it'll it'll be 113 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: disappointing if it's if the majority of it's not with us, 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, at some point, and you never know how 115 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: these things work. He could certainly end up, you know, 116 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: back back in Cleveland someday. But yeah, but it was hard. Again. 117 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: We just we feel his potential is so great. 118 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: He had some big moments for. 119 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: Us last year. Uh, and kickers in general are just 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: really tough. I mean, the sample sizes are so small 121 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: a year to year, and you know the difference between 122 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: having a good year and a bad year can be 123 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: you know, the outcome of two or three kicks. Yeah, 124 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: you know, and you look at Kate last year and 125 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: he was actually, uh, he was very good on extra points. 126 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: He was above average you know for the league. He 127 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: was he was fine really from sort of forty plus 128 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 2: yards where he actually, I mean he missed some kicks, 129 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: but he still wasn't far from the league average. I 130 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: think he was maybe one one makeaway from being you know, 131 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: either average or above average. And for a rookie, that's 132 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: you know, you're pretty happy with that, especially with someone 133 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: who's got his range. But then he missed a handful 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: of kicks from from the thirties, which was surprising, especially 135 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: considering he was so good on extra points, which is 136 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: from thirty five right, right, So the you know, these 137 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: are kick kickers are often a tough puzzle to put together, 138 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: and like I said, largely it's because of that sample 139 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: size being so small, and yet every kick is so important, right, 140 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: And I think that's ultimately what it comes down to is, 141 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: you know, these are just such high leverage situations that 142 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: being one or two away from average can really cost you. 143 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day. 144 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: So we wouldn't have we wouldn't have made the move 145 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: with Cade had there not been an option that we 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: felt really good about that had a long track record, 147 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: you know that we felt also that shared I think 148 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: strong kickoff characteristics, with which Kid certainly had as well, 149 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: which you can't entirely discount as a that's part of. 150 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: Their game too. 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: So you know, if not for Dustin being available, it 152 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: wasn't just going to be a knee jerk reaction to 153 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: just you. 154 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: Know, move Kate out and bring anyone else in. That 155 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: wasn't the case at all. It was, hey, here's a guy. 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: That we have, you know, a good amount of confidence, 157 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: and he's got a long track record, you know, and 158 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: and we feel like he's. 159 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: A good fit for our team right now. 160 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: I mean literally right now. Yeah, So like you know, 161 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: for for for this season. So you know, hopefully it 162 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: ends up, you know, working out well for us, and 163 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: hopefully we don't need them a whole lot. Hopefully we're 164 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: just scoring touchdowns and many games I more than seven, 165 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: you know. 166 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Talking to Chief Strategy after Paul d. Pedesta joining us 167 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: on the Twisted Tea hotline, how will the use of 168 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Nick be different this year than what we've seen in 169 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. 170 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just say it would start by saying, 171 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 2: we have we have a lot of confidence in Jerome. 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: You know, there there were times last year where we 173 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: really wanted to get him some touches and sort of. 174 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: Get him involved. 175 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: He really impressed through training camp, through practice, you know, 176 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: all all last year. But as you know that we 177 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: had two pretty good ones in front of him, you know, 178 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: so it wasn't a situation where we say, hey, let's 179 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: just take touches away from you know, Kareem or take 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: touches away from Nick to give them to Jerome. So 181 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: one of the things we ended up doing was you know, 182 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: having him return kicks, yeah, just to you know, again 183 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: sort of get him involved in the game, get his 184 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: hands on the ball. And he did a really nice 185 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 2: job in that role. So we you know, we again 186 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: we're very high on him. We think he's got three 187 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: down ability. He's a good runner, he's a good receiver, 188 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: you know, so we were I know, he hasn't played 189 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: a whole lot in front of our fans and hasn't 190 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: you know, gotten a lot of snats in the preseason unfortunately, 191 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: but we still feel really confident that that he's going 192 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: to be a really and. 193 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: Fit for our offense and contribute. We're also excited about Pierre. 194 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he has sort of a different skill set 195 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: than than the other guys, which which makes him I 196 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: think a nice complimentary fit. As far as how ultimately 197 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: that impacts, you know, our usage of Nick, it's hard 198 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: to say. I mean, look, Nick's a he's obviously. 199 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: A great player. 200 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: We've used we used him a certain way when we 201 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: when he had Kareem as sort of a running mate. Uh. 202 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: My guess is it'll probably be largely similar, you know, 203 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: going forward, but it probably won't be identical, you know, obviously, Jerome. 204 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: Kareem are different guys. 205 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: And how exactly that's going to play out. 206 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: Hard to say. And it could also. 207 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: Really change from week to week depending our opponent, depending 208 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: on you know, game situation. But you know, no doubt 209 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: that that, you know, Nick is obviously still a cornerstone 210 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: of our of our offense, both in terms of scheme 211 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: and productive Paul. 212 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Was there a player or two that was a real 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: pleasant surprise for you throughout the throughout the course of camp, 214 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: somebody that maybe had a little bit more than maybe 215 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe a thought. 216 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I think really really pleased with the 217 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: progression of some of our our second year players, you know, 218 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: in particular, you know those guys, you know, you always 219 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: expect those guys to sort of take a bit of 220 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: a jump from year one to year two. Uh, but 221 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: I think we were particularly happy with some of those guys. 222 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Alex right really being one in particular, is 223 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: too bad he ended up going down too and missing 224 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: you know, the back part of the pre season because 225 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: he was, you know, he was really impressive early. 226 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: You know. 227 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas also had made, you know, sort of made 228 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: a jump there. So that was you know, those were 229 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: good to see, you know, But certainly my mood diabat, 230 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: I think he's probably the one that got everybody, you know, 231 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: the most excited. He came in, you know, as an 232 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: undrafted free agent, made our fifty three. And I use 233 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: that that verb purposely. He made our fifty three. He 234 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: forced his way onto our team. You know, it wasn't 235 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: a situation where hey we had an open roster stot 236 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: or hey we needed a guy and he was just 237 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: the one. The way he played forced his way onto 238 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: our team. And you know, I think we're also you know, 239 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: the same can be said for Ronnie Hickman, and he 240 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: did a great job. But I'll tell you know, we 241 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: probably had higher expectations of Ronnie coming in, you know, 242 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: because we we thought we knew what we had, even 243 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: though it was an undrafted free agent. We thought, even 244 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: the day we signed with thought, this guy's got a 245 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: real chance to make our team. You know, he's that 246 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: sort of a player. He probably should have been a 247 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: drafted player. But with my mood, you know, I think 248 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: obviously we're excited to get him. We we we targeted him, 249 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: you know, right after the draft, we went after him 250 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: pretty aggressively. 251 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: But I think all of us are are sort. 252 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: Of beyond place with you know, what he showed in camp, 253 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: and you know, think he's got real ability and can 254 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: help us spoke in terms of special teams and and 255 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: on defense. 256 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: If you know, if needed. 257 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: Two things, One you know, how comfortable are you with 258 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 4: what you've seen from Deshaun? And then two, you know, 259 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: you bring in Elijah Moore. Marquise Goodwin is good to go, 260 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: which I think is a great for the Brands. How's 261 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 4: this offense gonna evolve based on comfort that you guys 262 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: do have with DeShawn. 263 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think having him with us for really the 264 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: whole whole spring, all of training camp and going into 265 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: the season, it's invaluable. 266 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: It's really hard to put. 267 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: A measure on that in any way, shape or form. 268 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: You know. I think the other thing people don't really 269 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: realize or don't remember is that while he you know, 270 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: played you know, six games the last last year, he 271 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: also was in training camp. We had to transition during 272 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: training camp to Jacoby being our starter. So Jacoby was 273 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: getting most of you know, the first team reps, the 274 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: last three weeks of training camp, and then DeShawn had 275 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: to leave the building for the better part of three months. Yeah, 276 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: I and wasn't around, and then he got to be 277 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: in the building for two weeks and then go play 278 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: football games at the NFL level, So there was And 279 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: obviously he also had a lot of other things going on, 280 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: so there was there was a lot of sort of 281 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: stopping and starting to his year last year, where this year, 282 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: it's just been consistent from the beginning. And I think 283 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: we've seen in the building and on the on the 284 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: practice field what I would consider to be more of 285 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: the real Decham you know, and he's a he's a 286 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: natural leader in our locker room. He makes plays that 287 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: are jaw dropping, you know at times, even in practice. 288 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: And I think we're really excited to see now what 289 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: it's going to look like, you know, come the regular season, 290 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: and that he's he's in a rhythm. I think, you know, 291 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: as much as he was adjusting to being back on 292 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: the field last year and with a new team and 293 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: all that sort of thing, we were also adjusting to him. 294 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: We haven't had a quarterback like this before who has 295 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: some of these skills, I mean, simple things like, you know, 296 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: I remember about two weeks before the Houston game last year, 297 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: I was talking with coach Deafanski and he was talking 298 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: about the need for scrambles real. 299 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: In practice, Like, you know, we're we just have to we. 300 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Have to be ready, you know, for when Deshaun comes back. 301 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: And they were a handful of times in those first 302 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: couple of games where Deshaun bought time and you know, 303 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: if you're watching on tape, most of our guys were 304 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: standing around watching him, Oh my gosh. 305 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: What's he doing? But like look at that move? You know. 306 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: But whereas now you know, not only have we been 307 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: able to fit the personnel I think a little bit 308 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: better to his skill set, but but you know, also 309 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: our guys are starting to learn how to better play 310 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: with him and how to get the most out of him. 311 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: So again, excited to see what it's going to look like. Uh, 312 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: you know, we get said hopefully you know, knock on wood, 313 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: help permiling. We're going to get at least seventeen games 314 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: of it. So we know that not every single week 315 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: is going to be perfect. But you know, we don't 316 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: think the last you know, six games of last year, 317 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: especially given the weather and some of the conditions of 318 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: some of those games are at all representatives of what 319 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: we're going to say this year.