WEBVTT - Nizza on Trump's Campaign Reboot (Audio)

0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.480
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Taking Stock with Pimp Box and Kathleen

0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Hayes on bloom Bird Radio and ever evolving political campaign.

0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.840
<v Speaker 1>That is the story for Donald Trump, opening its first

0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.400
<v Speaker 1>week under new leadership, trying out a number of ways

0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to broaden it support and to begin to close the

0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:26.040
<v Speaker 1>polling gap with Hillary Clinton. Among the the pivots or

0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.120
<v Speaker 1>evolutions we expect to hear this week from Donald Trump

0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.360
<v Speaker 1>is a policy speech on immigration. How is he going

0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to change that and what kind of impact might he have?

0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Are very happy to be joined today by Mike Meetza,

0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:43.200
<v Speaker 1>executive editor for Bloomberg Politics, right here in our world

0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>headquarters in New York. Welcome Mike, Thanks for having me. So, uh,

0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, what has happened? We've had the departure of

0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Paul mana Fort, We've got poster Kelly on Conway Bright

0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Barton News co founder Stephen Banion involved now at the

0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.120
<v Speaker 1>at the Helm, and of course there's talk that from

0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the distance from the sidelines, Roger Ales, recently ousted at

0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Fox News, is also chipping in. What are you guys

0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.440
<v Speaker 1>hearing about what there he's being told and how he's responding. Um,

0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So I think what we're seeing right now. Is is

0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely a change in execution for the Trump campaign. The

0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:22.960
<v Speaker 1>strategy has stayed remarkably consistent. It's just they're they're changing

0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.800
<v Speaker 1>the way they're going about implementing that strategy. And I

0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's becoming much faster, uh. And that that

0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.920
<v Speaker 1>goes to the point of having a a CEO of

0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the campaign who ran this new site. So he's really fast,

0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he's really used to these these crazy fast news cycles. UM.

0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.039
<v Speaker 1>And he's being more disciplined when it comes to uh

0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the groups he's targeting. And that definitely comes from Kelly

0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and Conway. Like you said, who's whose roots are in

0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.560
<v Speaker 1>UH polling? And I think she would be able to

0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.840
<v Speaker 1>make the case to AH, to someone who's as obsessed

0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.840
<v Speaker 1>with polls as Donald Trump, that hey, we need to

0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.640
<v Speaker 1>reach out to these other groups in order to have

0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.760
<v Speaker 1>a chance to win. Mike, does Donald Trump have a

0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:06.040
<v Speaker 1>pulse on what attracts people for the daily news cycle?

0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Because for example, he went down to Louisiana to those

0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:15.120
<v Speaker 1>flooded areas before the president, before candidate Hillary Clinton hay

0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.320
<v Speaker 1>to visit. Now, that's that's actually a really good point.

0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:22.960
<v Speaker 1>He is a fully formed media animal. He consumes media

0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.399
<v Speaker 1>at all points on the clock. He's watching cable news,

0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he's on Twitter. We've seen him tweet in the middle

0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of the night. We've seen him, you know, tweet in

0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.919
<v Speaker 1>the middle of his work day. Um, he knows what's

0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.280
<v Speaker 1>going on, and he's he he looks, he looks to

0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different media out let's to figure out

0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.240
<v Speaker 1>what he's going to do next. I think you could

0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.919
<v Speaker 1>look at his convention speech He's even which was very

0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.679
<v Speaker 1>news driven as opposed to traditional convention speeches which would

0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.600
<v Speaker 1>focus on kind of like broader themes, more eternal themes

0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:55.840
<v Speaker 1>for America. Well before we started this discussion, in the

0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.520
<v Speaker 1>last couple of minutes, Mike, you were pointing out that, uh,

0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:05.200
<v Speaker 1>people very close to Donald Trump have very recent immigrants

0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:10.480
<v Speaker 1>in their families, um, notably Italian immigrants. Right, So he's

0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.640
<v Speaker 1>so close to an issue that many people feel he

0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.200
<v Speaker 1>has that he's anti immigrant. Right. First things he said

0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.200
<v Speaker 1>about looking very closely at the Muslims who are being

0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.720
<v Speaker 1>allowed into this country, no matter where they're from, etcetera.

0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.560
<v Speaker 1>What's it gonna say this week? Yeah, I know, it's

0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting point. And I think, um, I think

0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.560
<v Speaker 1>if you look at a lot of Trump's rhetoric and

0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.600
<v Speaker 1>rhetoric that comes from the campaign. They're they're definitely suspicious

0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of people who are either immigrants or the um the

0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.160
<v Speaker 1>sons and daughters of immigrants, and that comprises you know,

0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a huge uh you know that the huge share of

0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the American voting public. There are a lot of people

0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.200
<v Speaker 1>who are the sons and daughters of immigrants. Um So.

0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.760
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, it's very popular with his base,

0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.240
<v Speaker 1>and he he won the primaries because he was able

0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to outflank his his many many Republican opponents when it

0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.400
<v Speaker 1>came to immigration. Um so. I think that that drove

0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.200
<v Speaker 1>him this far, and I think at this point he's

0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.720
<v Speaker 1>looking for a way to kind of soften it a

0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit because one, uh one, it's definitely turned off

0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of voters. In two, if he did win

0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the White House, it would be very hard to implement

0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.920
<v Speaker 1>something as drastic as a deportation of millions and millions

0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.159
<v Speaker 1>of illegal immigrants. I wonder if you could just cast

0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.880
<v Speaker 1>your vision to the future and the debates that will

0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.920
<v Speaker 1>be held with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Are the

0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.440
<v Speaker 1>expectations for Donald Trump so low in terms of policy

0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.200
<v Speaker 1>points and facts and figures and those kinds of details

0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that he made likely surprised people during the debate. It's

0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.919
<v Speaker 1>it's entirely possible. This is this is definitely an expectations game.

0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.760
<v Speaker 1>But I think if you kind of start to think

0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.040
<v Speaker 1>about how that expectations game is played, I think you're

0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.640
<v Speaker 1>right one that uh, that Trump uh is not known

0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to be the kind of details driven debater or that

0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton was. But also we're not seeing the kind

0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of rhetoric that we saw in past campaigns where uh,

0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, when Romney was preparing to debate Barack Obama,

0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it was often said, you know, Barack Obama is one

0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of the best debaters in the United States history, and

0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>of course it's going to be hard for Romney to compete.

0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.560
<v Speaker 1>And then he was able to really shock everybody with

0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that first debate and uh and uh leave it leave

0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.240
<v Speaker 1>it very much a mystery until election day who was

0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna win. Um. At the same time, I do a

0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.320
<v Speaker 1>few things that you could count on. One is that

0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.200
<v Speaker 1>there Trump will drive enormous interest in this uh, in

0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.800
<v Speaker 1>this debate. You know, if he he loves ratings, he

0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.920
<v Speaker 1>loves building up to one big climactic moment that will

0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.719
<v Speaker 1>decide things. I think if if you're a campaign like his,

0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.320
<v Speaker 1>who who's behind in the polls, who loves television, who

0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.359
<v Speaker 1>thinks they haven't advantaged, they would they would definitely be

0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.320
<v Speaker 1>driving towards one big moment like this. Mike knitz En,

0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:56.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, Executive Editor, Bloomberg Politics. He can

0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.160
<v Speaker 1>be followed on Twitter at Mike Nitza and I z

0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:04.560
<v Speaker 1>z A. You're listening to taking Stock. I'm PIM Fox,

0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.680
<v Speaker 1>my co host Kathleen Hayes, and this is Bloomberg