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Speaker 1: us shortly, but first OJO news of the day, Stir
Speaker 1: Sanders could miss Saturday's preseason game with an oblique injury.
Speaker 1: Shaudur suffer the oblique injury during the throwing drill early
Speaker 1: in the round joint practice against the Eagles. Ojo, how
Speaker 1: concerned are you about your due or rise to be
Speaker 1: QB one if he doesn't play on Saturday.
Speaker 3: I'm not concerned at all. I'm not concern at all.
Speaker 3: For one, he's not going to be quarterback one. We
Speaker 3: know Joe Flacco is going to be the starting quarterback
Speaker 3: Week one against the Bengals when they do play, So
Speaker 3: I'm really not worried about that. Mom, I really don't
Speaker 3: have any concern because now comes Saturday when they do play.
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Dylan Gabriel and I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if Kenny Pickett is playing, now they get opportunity to show,
Speaker 3: you know what they can do. We've seen the small
Speaker 3: sample sides door Sanders with the ones, with the ones
Speaker 3: for a short period of time, the two, the threes,
Speaker 3: and the fours, so we know what he can do.
Speaker 3: We saw how he played with the lights are on,
Speaker 3: with the pressures on and the bloods are flying for real.
Speaker 3: We haven't seen what Kenny Pickett could do as a
Speaker 3: Browns player. We haven't seen what Dillian Dylan Gabriel can do.
Speaker 3: So they deserve their opportunity to play when the lights
Speaker 3: are on and the game is somewhat meaningful. As far
Speaker 3: as buying for a position on that team. As far
Speaker 3: as Steward goes, he showed what he can do. So
Speaker 3: him being injured, being able to take the time off
Speaker 3: and be ready for Week three, whichever Presecon game that is,
Speaker 3: I'm all fine with that.
Speaker 1: So you think he's shown enough, because me, I don't
Speaker 1: see how they keep four quarterbacks. Somebody's gonna have to
Speaker 1: get released. It's really that simple. You're not keeping four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because the positions are too valuable and none of
Speaker 1: these guys play special teams. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: maybe Dylan Gabriel can hold, Maybe can he pick it?
Speaker 2: Can hold.
Speaker 1: I don't think Joe Flacco's ever held, at least not
Speaker 1: while he was in the league. I'm sure at some
Speaker 1: point in time, maybe in college he held or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: But it just.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's done enough. You know, people say, well,
Speaker 1: he's done enough, he's shown what he can do. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not what the depth chart said. The depth chart
Speaker 1: said he was still Q before.
Speaker 3: Listen. Honestly, I think politics plays a part in it.
Speaker 3: But obviously once it's opportunity, when the opportunity for in
Speaker 3: his cell for him to play. When Kenny Pickett and
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel were hurt, right, he rose to the occasion.
Speaker 3: He rose to the occasion and looked extremely sharp, had
Speaker 3: some great plays, you know, outside the pocket. In the pocket,
Speaker 3: you know, it was calm, he was poised, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure anyone would common sense a GM, a scout can
Speaker 3: see the way he played and know this is a
Speaker 3: quarterback that deserves not just a chance to be on
Speaker 3: the team, but a chance to start, a chance to
Speaker 3: compete for the starting starting position. So now with that
Speaker 3: being said, nobody, nobody on the other thirty one teams
Speaker 3: Washing Door Sanders play that night and say, you know what,
Speaker 3: he deserves to be quarterback number four. Nobody, nobody at all.
Speaker 3: So now if they believe so much and Kenny Pickett
Speaker 3: and Dylan Gabriel to be quarterback two and three, now
Speaker 3: they have their opportunity Saturday to prove why they should be.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if Picket is
Speaker 1: practiced yet, Stefanski said, I think it was yesterday or
Speaker 1: day before that. He was still dealing with some tightness.
Speaker 1: So they want to be careful, they want to be
Speaker 1: cautious with it. I don't know how much Gabriel has played,
Speaker 1: has practiced since his injury. But look, they got a
Speaker 1: Snoop Huntley on the on the roster and they brought
Speaker 1: him in last week once these other two they realized
Speaker 1: that Gabriel had got nicked and Pickett had been out
Speaker 1: for an extended period of time. With all that being said,
Speaker 1: this is kind of my worst fear because if we
Speaker 1: talked about it last week and I said, I should
Speaker 1: hope he can consolidate it. I hope that he can
Speaker 1: put back to back games together, o jo. And now
Speaker 1: it's like he played, he played really really well in
Speaker 1: one game, and now he's mixed, and it looked like
Speaker 1: he's going to miss the second game and then the
Speaker 1: third game. You know, like obviously Flacco is probably not
Speaker 1: gonna play. But I could have seen envisional scenario that
Speaker 1: they probably would have released Flacoh.
Speaker 2: You know, and with the other guys.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. You know that's not gonna happen. That's
Speaker 3: not gonna happen with your experience in the NFL as
Speaker 3: long as you've not only played, but been covering the NFL,
Speaker 3: you know, And they're not going to start with the
Speaker 3: young bucks. They're not trying to win.
Speaker 2: No, Joe, Huh, you're not trying to win.
Speaker 3: You're you say that you're not trying to win.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 4: Well, oh, talk to me.
Speaker 3: And like me.
Speaker 1: So you're trying to win. You go get you go
Speaker 1: get Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett. That's what that. Those
Speaker 1: are your choices, and you take Dylan Gabriel and then
Speaker 1: you take your door settled in the seventh round, a
Speaker 1: fifth round.
Speaker 3: Well, hold on, what other options did they have?
Speaker 4: They had no other options?
Speaker 1: So there were no other quarterbacks available other than Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco and Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 3: Well, what quarterbacks were available that can actually put the
Speaker 3: Browns over the hump right now and compete in a
Speaker 3: in the AFC?
Speaker 2: North was justin fields available.
Speaker 4: I think he was already going to New York. Huh,
Speaker 4: he was already going to New York.
Speaker 2: He wasn't going before free agency started.
Speaker 3: Okay, give me you know.
Speaker 1: Joe, you know, okay, you knew you wasn't gonna bring it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you had it. You wasn't gonna bring James back. Okay, right,
Speaker 1: so you know that you don't wait till free agency start.
Speaker 1: You're starting this, you're looking at free agency not only others,
Speaker 1: but your own free agents. And you're getting an idea.
Speaker 1: You're trying to put this puzzle together. Who we would
Speaker 1: be interested in, who might be interested in us, Who
Speaker 1: are we gonna try to re sign?
Speaker 2: Or we okay with them? Moving on? Right?
Speaker 1: So for me, when you got an eighteen year vet,
Speaker 1: a guy that really hadn't shown you that he could.
Speaker 2: I mean, he'd been at two stops.
Speaker 3: So Joe, wait a minute, wait a minute, a guy
Speaker 3: that has shown you. When Deshaun Watson got hurt, he
Speaker 3: came in and went on a five six game ministry
Speaker 3: for them until the bottom fell out.
Speaker 1: So he's show So you know what you're getting with
Speaker 1: Joe Flackel, right, So you know the bothom is gonna
Speaker 1: fall out, right.
Speaker 3: I mean at some point, and that's where your number
Speaker 3: two comes in play. That's where the thing is, your
Speaker 3: number two comes and play. You stick with him, and
Speaker 3: that's who you ride him with for the foresee of
Speaker 3: the future.
Speaker 1: But there are things that even though Joe Flacco was
Speaker 1: playing well, he turns the.
Speaker 2: Ball over and a lot, yeah, he turns.
Speaker 1: The ball over a lot, picks and fumbles, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: And that's what bites it.
Speaker 2: Pickett.
Speaker 1: I was never I was never sold on Kenny Pickett. Right,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh wasn't sold on Kenny Pickett. Didn't he go to
Speaker 1: h He went to Philly last year? Where was he
Speaker 1: last year?
Speaker 2: Philly?
Speaker 4: He wasn't Philly.
Speaker 3: I think it was the back maybe third string, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure, or who was the SEC.
Speaker 4: He might have been.
Speaker 2: Well McKee is the second now.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Kenny might have been the second string quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went in with hers went out, but McKee
Speaker 1: obviously they felt very comfortable keeping McKee.
Speaker 2: And he looked, he looked well.
Speaker 1: And the duty and and and the role that he
Speaker 1: came in on Sundays last week, he looked really really well.
Speaker 1: It's just hard for me to see a scenario oho
Speaker 1: is that they keep four quarterbacks in two rookies. Now
Speaker 1: you run the risk of, like, if you release one
Speaker 1: of the rookies, somebody else sign them. Now, probably they're
Speaker 1: only gonna sign if you sign them to your active roster,
Speaker 1: because I mean, why would you want to go and
Speaker 1: try to learn a new system When you spend OTA's,
Speaker 1: you spent mini camps, you spend training camp learning this system.
Speaker 1: Why go somewhere else start behind unless they're gonna put
Speaker 1: you on the active roster. Now, if they're gonna put
Speaker 1: you in the fifty three, the fifty three man active roster,
Speaker 1: well I totally understand because there's a substantial difference in pain.
Speaker 1: But unless they're willing to do that, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: much sense for me for you to go to one
Speaker 1: practice squad to the other practice squad.
Speaker 2: Or if they release you, now it's.
Speaker 1: You know, you get to I guess you get to decide, well, well,
Speaker 1: we really like to sign you back. Do you go
Speaker 1: back with a system that you're familiar with, O Joe?
Speaker 1: Or do you move on and try to learn on
Speaker 1: a new system and say, well, I think over there
Speaker 1: might be better suit might be better situated for me,
Speaker 1: or I might be better suited to be in that situation
Speaker 1: over there as opposed to currently here. What's your take?
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Ah? I can see how it plays out. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: I can see it. I can see it. Listen. I'm
Speaker 3: not in the Browns organization. I'm not there in the
Speaker 3: locker room. I'm not there on the practice field. But
Speaker 3: from what I know about the game from the outside
Speaker 3: looking in and just being around the game in general.
Speaker 3: I know exactly how it's going to play out based
Speaker 3: on what Chadour did in the first preseason game to
Speaker 3: be able to come out and do that with a
Speaker 3: limited amount of snaps that he was able to play.
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco was back, and they brought him back simply
Speaker 3: because he knows the offense, he knows the system, and
Speaker 3: we know what we get from him if he's in there.
Speaker 3: At some point, things are going to go disarray. The
Speaker 3: bottom gonna fall out at some point. Who's going to
Speaker 3: be our number two quarterback that going to be able
Speaker 3: to step up and take things on from that point
Speaker 3: for the force hev future for our franchise.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst gave Shador Sanders a ride on the golf
Speaker 1: cart after Sanders injured is oblique during practice. He spoke
Speaker 1: on this conversation with Shador, saying he came to me and.
Speaker 2: Wanted to talk.
Speaker 1: I'm always there of giving my perspective on what I
Speaker 1: see and how I've gone about things. I'm supporting him
Speaker 1: from where I am and wish him nothing but the best.
Speaker 2: And I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, Jalen, I mean the
Speaker 1: maturity that he displays. You would think the guy's been
Speaker 1: in the league ten twelve years, and he's only been
Speaker 1: in the league, what about six years himself. But the
Speaker 1: way he goes about his business, the way he handles
Speaker 1: his business, the way he he his perspective on a
Speaker 1: lot of things right. He doesn't get too high, he
Speaker 1: doesn't get too low. He's very even keeled. Guys rather
Speaker 1: around him, he comes off as very authentic. I believe
Speaker 1: he's very authentic. Or heard Lane Johnson talking about him.
Speaker 1: He's the same day one as he is right now.
Speaker 1: He's just gotten more efficient and better at what he's doing.
Speaker 1: But he's still the same guy. Nothing about him has
Speaker 1: changed or deviated from when he walked into this locker
Speaker 1: room as the second round draft pick. And that's what
Speaker 1: you could appreciate. Circumstances has not changed this young man,
Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP. This that the talk Philly is a
Speaker 1: very tough place, a very tough town to play in,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't let he doesn't let that bother him.
Speaker 1: Everybody can't play in places like Philly. It'll crush a
Speaker 1: lot of people. But he's built for it. He has
Speaker 1: very thick skin, he has very small ears, so he
Speaker 1: doesn't hear the noise and stuff that people would normally
Speaker 1: say or that would be impactful to a player.
Speaker 2: It bounces off him.
Speaker 1: So that's what makes him really, really good at what
Speaker 1: he does, because the same thing with Eli is that
Speaker 1: they try to beat him up in New York.
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't even hear the Ali damnna be lie.
Speaker 2: You alive?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm alive. I just don't hear y'all. Bullget what
Speaker 1: y'all saying is dead to me. I'm alive, And well,
Speaker 1: it's just what you're saying is dead to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I like the fact that it's like, look, all
Speaker 1: I can do is offer my perspective from where I am.
Speaker 1: I'm the starting quarterback of Philly. I hear what you
Speaker 1: guys here. I got an opportunity to hear his perspective
Speaker 1: because he's actually in it, and I was saying, you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe he shared what I was in a situation
Speaker 1: when I got here. They had just given a guy
Speaker 1: one of the second richest contracts in NFL history. But
Speaker 1: I was undeterred. I was like, I'm gonna take care
Speaker 1: of what Jalen can take care of. I can't concern
Speaker 1: myself with what they just paid him, I can't concern
Speaker 1: myself that he was on the way to winning the
Speaker 1: MVP before he got hurt. Game Week thirteen, Week fourteen
Speaker 1: have anything to do with me, and we controlled what
Speaker 1: I can control. Let me do what I can do,
Speaker 1: and then the chips will far with a mate. But
Speaker 1: but when I get my opportunity.
Speaker 3: That's that's exactly what That's exactly where I was going
Speaker 3: with it now. Obviously Jalen's opportunity didn't come until they
Speaker 3: were already in season. Well, hell, preseason matters most because
Speaker 3: right now you're trying to make you trying to earn
Speaker 3: a Ross's spot. They had gotten Cauth on the depth
Speaker 3: chart and not give you the adequate reps that you need,
Speaker 3: especially with the ones other twos two players get hurt,
Speaker 3: the opportunity to present itself when the opportunity presented itself.
Speaker 3: How did he look? How did he look?
Speaker 2: He looked good. He looked really well. He looked good,
Speaker 2: looked very good.
Speaker 3: Well, he looked really well, and commanded the offense and
Speaker 3: commanded the players. He looked like a leader, looked like
Speaker 3: he's been doing it for five.
Speaker 4: Or six years.
Speaker 2: Yes, he looked very poised.
Speaker 3: So again, now it's a quarterback competition. His obleague is hurt.
Speaker 3: Next man up. Now it's Dylan Gabriel's turn. If Dylan
Speaker 3: now that, if I'm not mistaken of Kenny Pickett's not playing,
Speaker 3: Joe Flack was not playing the second game. Now Dylan
Speaker 3: gaber gets to play most of the goddamn game until
Speaker 3: Stup Huntley comes in the fourth quarters, similar to what
Speaker 3: they did last Friday.
Speaker 2: M hm true.
Speaker 3: Now, now we will see, We will see because Kenny
Speaker 3: Pickett not getting snapped now, but we still know what
Speaker 3: we got from Kenny Pickett when he was in Philly.
Speaker 3: We know what we got from Kenny Pickett when he
Speaker 3: was in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: It's hard to evaluate him when he was in Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: in Philly because he didn't really get a whole lot
Speaker 1: of playing time he was a backup. But we did
Speaker 1: see a large sample size of him when he was
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Okay, and listen, no disrespect to him. And in a
Speaker 3: three year span, is all of a sudden now going
Speaker 3: to be the year that something has changed miraculously.
Speaker 2: Well seems that Cleveland thought so, because that's why he's
Speaker 2: signed me free agency.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the quarterbacks are going to always get OPPORTUNITIESNK.
Speaker 3: You know that true, They can always get opportunities over
Speaker 3: and over and over and over. Either has a two
Speaker 3: as a three, but sometimes a four. Not very many
Speaker 3: team carry a fourth quarterback, but it will always get
Speaker 3: an opportunity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just damn man. I mean, seemed like he
Speaker 2: can't catch a break.
Speaker 3: I mean, do you know how many quarter Tim Couch,
Speaker 3: denmar When Peterson, hookum Garcia McCown, Delford, Fry, Anderson, Dorsey, Quinn, Menzielle, Hoyard,
Speaker 3: I mean, Whedon, Wallace, the Hogan, Taylor Mayfield. Keep it
Speaker 3: just that it goes and continues on and on and
Speaker 3: on and on. So how I mean, how they can
Speaker 3: just be so proud about well, this individual looked a
Speaker 3: certain way in preseason, but we still want to keep
Speaker 3: him fourth on the depth chart. I mean, anyone that
Speaker 3: even looks the par you should be fighting at the
Speaker 3: bit about him at that position that you haven't been
Speaker 3: able to find success at and who knows how long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been an extended period of times since they
Speaker 1: found a starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: I mean people are gonna say, oh, it's the preseason.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean anything. No, it didn't mean something because
Speaker 3: before a wedding, you have a dress rehearsal, don't you right, yeah,
Speaker 3: you have a dress rehearsal. Whatever the dress rehearsal, whether
Speaker 3: it was the twos or the ones.
Speaker 2: Well, they wouldn't have said that. Let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question.
Speaker 1: If he went out there, if your door goes out
Speaker 1: there and throws three picks and fumbled the ball, where
Speaker 1: they have said it doesn't mean anything, or that would say, see,
Speaker 1: that's why they took him in the fifth round. You
Speaker 1: see he plays well, it doesn't mean anything. He doesn't
Speaker 1: play well, it means everything. We see how this goes.
Speaker 1: We already know what was being written, right, we already know.
Speaker 1: So he played well, that don't mean anything. He doesn't
Speaker 1: play well. It's everything. I think for a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: it means a lot because this is his first time
Speaker 1: getting NFL action. This is the first time that he's
Speaker 1: gonna go against people that's out there trying to get
Speaker 1: unless you're a number one, unless you're a high draft pick,
Speaker 1: but you know you do or out they're competing against
Speaker 1: guys too.
Speaker 2: They don't want that look, in about.
Speaker 1: Two weeks, thirty guys per teen, about a thousand guys,
Speaker 1: don't yo got to go their dreams, Their football dreams
Speaker 1: will come to an end, Yes, sir, what they A
Speaker 1: lot of these men have been dreaming for this moment
Speaker 1: their entire lives, and now they're gonna have to do
Speaker 1: something else. Maybe it's coaching, maybe they put that degree,
Speaker 1: maybe they're a teacher, maybe they're financial, maybe they're they're
Speaker 1: personal training, whatever the case may be, they go out
Speaker 1: into the real job world, a nine to five and
Speaker 1: they look, don't I'm not saying there's anything wrong with
Speaker 1: a nine to five because I know y'all. Y'all can
Speaker 1: try to ll y'all take everything and try to run
Speaker 1: with it. What I will say is this, for about
Speaker 1: a thousand plus us me in, their dreams of playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL will come to an end. And then
Speaker 1: what is your backup plan? What is playing B? Because
Speaker 1: Plan A failed? Let me let me take that back.
Speaker 1: Plan A wasn't the success. So now you're either gonna
Speaker 1: have to try to like okay, hopefully somebody picks me
Speaker 1: up on the practice squad and I try this thing again,
Speaker 1: or I'm like you know what, Probably you listen to
Speaker 1: what the guys what what. Maybe you listen to what
Speaker 1: the GM saying says, you know, hey, son, we think
Speaker 1: you got talent, but we just gotta we kind of
Speaker 1: just facted at that position where you are, and you know,
Speaker 1: we think you can play in this league, but just
Speaker 1: right now, we just think it's better that, you know,
Speaker 1: we give you an opportunity to go someplace else. That
Speaker 1: that that's the That's the reality of it, O Joe.
Speaker 1: That is the reality of professional sports. Sometimes your dreams
Speaker 1: what you dreamed, and maybe it was your dream to
Speaker 1: play from junior high a JV to varsity and then
Speaker 1: you go to high school and say, man if I
Speaker 1: can play college, and then you say, man if I
Speaker 1: can just get an opportunity to play in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Maybe that was your dream, was to get into a
Speaker 1: train and go to OTA's and mini camps and training camps,
Speaker 1: play in the preseason, and that was it. Maybe that
Speaker 1: was it right, But some you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: it might not happen this year. You might have to
Speaker 1: have a delayed success where it doesn't happen this year,
Speaker 1: but it happened next year, and it might be two
Speaker 1: or three times, Joe, you a but I think you know,
Speaker 1: you know, give yourself an opportunity to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep'mna keep training. Maybe somebody calls me back,
Speaker 1: put me on the practice squad, and I might be
Speaker 1: going into a situation where I don't know the plays,
Speaker 1: but I definitely be going into a situation where I'm
Speaker 1: in shape as in shape as I can possibly be,
Speaker 1: given that I will not have played football in a week,
Speaker 1: two weeks, maybe even a month. That's what you can
Speaker 1: hope for. Yeah, but that's that's that's the reality of
Speaker 1: professional football now. Obviously it's not that many basketball players.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you look at thirty teams and then
Speaker 1: fifteen players for roster, so you look at four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty.
Speaker 2: They're gonna cut double that because you're thinking about, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: you got eighty, You got eighty.
Speaker 3: On the roster right now, and they got you gotta
Speaker 3: get down to fifty three. To get down to fifty three,
Speaker 3: three you got to bring you get back.
Speaker 2: You get sick, but you get back, you get by twenty.
Speaker 1: You can get put by Tweint on the practice squad
Speaker 1: twenty I think, so how many how many practice squad
Speaker 1: players could have got. I think it's a high number.
Speaker 1: This is a high teams.
Speaker 2: Oh hoe, fifteen to twenty so oh that change then?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, been changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I ain't know that. I had no idea.
Speaker 3: I had no idea. Okay, okay, okay, sixteen sixteen, Okay.
Speaker 1: So you get sixteen. Well, if he's an international player,
Speaker 1: could be seventeen.
Speaker 3: So that's dope.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, don't you know like a
Speaker 1: lot of these So because at first you had ninety,
Speaker 1: then you get down there, you go to cam with eighty,
Speaker 1: and now you that's twenty seven. So you releasing six
Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven hundred, yes, with thirty times twenty.
Speaker 1: So think about how many players you're actually releasing.
Speaker 3: Right, Hey, but man, you know the definition of malpractice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. The malpractice is Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Those that are in positions of power that make the
Speaker 3: calls at that organization. I think everybody needs to be
Speaker 3: fired if they don't get it right this time. They
Speaker 3: do because enough is enough. Thirty five different quarterback positions
Speaker 3: and you have to find success in having one for
Speaker 3: a decade, you haven't had the luck.
Speaker 2: I do give him a for effort. They keep trying,
Speaker 2: but come on, man, I mean, ojo.
Speaker 1: If somebody would have told you, given what you know,
Speaker 1: a twenty six year old Deshaun Watson in his absolute
Speaker 1: apex prime, if somebody would have told you that it
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work, you wouldn't have believed them. He had
Speaker 1: just led the league in passing. Yeah, just led the
Speaker 1: league in passing. Now, obviously there are other circumstances. But
Speaker 1: and then he gets injured.
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 1: He turns acl then he messes up where he messed
Speaker 1: up his shoulder, I think first, and then it's oh no, no,
Speaker 1: this's a key leeds.
Speaker 2: It was his key leads. And then he reached he
Speaker 2: reinjures that.
Speaker 1: So that's I think that's where because they thought they
Speaker 1: had their quarterback for the next decade.
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought they had their quarterback for the next decade.
Speaker 1: Same nobody would if you go back and look at
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson when they made this, there's no no, Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson is not out of your top ten. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, a lot of people probably had him
Speaker 1: in the top five. So and we had never seen
Speaker 1: a quarterback this young in his prime.
Speaker 4: That's been not injured available be available never.
Speaker 1: They never come available, not in their prime. Even Brady
Speaker 1: became available, but he wasn't his prime. Now he still
Speaker 1: played well, but Brady was not gonna be available in
Speaker 1: your six. Peyton Manny was not gonna be available in
Speaker 1: year six, Aaron Rodgers, Brent Farv, Joe Montana. They're not
Speaker 1: available in year six. Deshaun Watson was available in year
Speaker 1: six and his absolute prime. So they thought that I
Speaker 1: give them the utmost credit because they traded it off
Speaker 1: a lot to get him, And that's what you have.
Speaker 1: What would a team trade to get their hands on
Speaker 1: a Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or Josh Allen You
Speaker 1: traded off a lot, yes you would, or Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: you would, absolutely.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, I give them credit.
Speaker 1: Now they gagged on a lot of other ones too,
Speaker 1: But I can't say that they get I mean, it
Speaker 1: looks hindsight because it's a magnificent signs because we have
Speaker 1: the luxury of knowing today what we didn't know yesterday.
Speaker 1: But at the time they're like, oh yeah, perfect, Now
Speaker 1: you look at what they turned that into. You know,
Speaker 1: they probably got will Landerson junior and they got the
Speaker 1: high lives of Nicocollins or and some of these other
Speaker 1: dress You're like, well it worked out.
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, absolutely, but.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just something, something is I just can't put
Speaker 2: my hand on it.
Speaker 1: I wish, I wish that your duel was healthy and
Speaker 1: was playing in this game, because it would crystallize things
Speaker 1: a lot for me, O Joe, it really would.
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, things are going to crystallize themselves regardless.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: Even if he doesn't play this game, him not playing
Speaker 3: this game, ob it could be a blessed.
Speaker 1: I got three injured quarterbacks, So how did the crystallize?
Speaker 1: You got three injured quarterback, one having a blaque and
Speaker 1: two got ham strings?
Speaker 2: So how does the crystallize?
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel's playing this weekend.
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel is getting this opportunity to play.
Speaker 2: How long you know ham strings? You know how they are?
Speaker 3: Okay? How about this?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: If Shadur looked that way in the first preseason game, right, yes,
Speaker 3: And Dylan Gabriel plays this week and doesn't look as
Speaker 3: good as your door did.
Speaker 1: Well, your door bid play against the same caliber talent
Speaker 1: that Dylan Gabriel. I'm just preparing you for what they're
Speaker 1: gonna say. Oh Joe, see you already know what they're
Speaker 1: gonna say too.
Speaker 3: You can't deny, you can't. You can't deny what's for you,
Speaker 3: no matter how, no matter how much they try to
Speaker 3: stall the process on what's to be, it's going to
Speaker 3: be regardless.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, regardless agree.
Speaker 3: They can play. They can play the political game all
Speaker 3: they want. They can play merry go around with the
Speaker 3: quarterback situation all they want. Hadn't come out and say
Speaker 3: this is not the quarterback I wanted. But Andrew Berry,
Speaker 3: when all that is said and done, will look like Einstein.
Speaker 3: He can look like Einstein. He just is.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't deny it.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: But it's just hard to compete in that division when
Speaker 1: you got two of the best quarterbacks, and the two
Speaker 1: of the top four quarterbacks reside in that division, then
Speaker 1: you put them in when you say, okay, give me
Speaker 1: your top five quarterbacks, it's gonna be Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson pose a the four. Two of the
Speaker 1: four that I mentioned reside in the AFC North. So
Speaker 1: if you want to win that division and you want
Speaker 1: to be competitive year and a year out, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to find a way to beat those two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and listen, and they're gonna be there for the extended
Speaker 1: None of those quarterbacks are thirty, So you got to
Speaker 1: deal with him for the next.
Speaker 2: Five to ten.
Speaker 3: And you also have another And I don't want to
Speaker 3: discredit him. I know he had to look good the
Speaker 3: past two years, but you don't have to. Ain't no
Speaker 3: slous down there in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Either, right, The only thing you're not gonna have to
Speaker 1: deal with him for another five to ten. But you're right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're right. So I just know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what Yoe.
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm excited to see how it turns out. I
Speaker 3: know football is back in twenty two days. If I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken. I think I got my numbers right. And
Speaker 3: I want to see who's going to be quarterback number
Speaker 3: one for the Cleveland Browns. I want to see. I
Speaker 3: know how it's going to play out. I know Joe
Speaker 3: Flackham going to be the starter.
Speaker 4: He's the veteran. He's the veteran.
Speaker 3: We know what he's done. When he was at the Helm,
Speaker 3: he went on a five to six game run. It
Speaker 3: was phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Look crazy.
Speaker 3: I also saw what she do or did when he
Speaker 3: got his opportunity despite being low on the depth chart.
Speaker 3: Now we can see what Dylan Gabriel can do this Saturday.
Speaker 3: I don't even know who they playing. Who they're playing, Philly, Yes, huh.
Speaker 1: Okay, chat, we know whe's to have David and Joku.
Speaker 2: We believe.
Speaker 1: He's kind of falling asleep, and so once we can
Speaker 1: get him awake, we'll definitely we'll definitely.
Speaker 2: He definitely break him on with you guys.
Speaker 3: But they have they have, they had practice they huh yes,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, And.
Speaker 1: We know what time it is. It's it's ten thirty
Speaker 1: on the East Coast training camp. Now it's different, I
Speaker 1: mean because we stayed up till one, two, three in
Speaker 1: the morning. But these guys, you know, they get their sleep,
Speaker 1: and I understand that. But I promise you, if we
Speaker 1: can get him awake, we'll get him on here for
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 2: Raheem Moore seems to be.
Speaker 1: Pleased with Kirk Cousins plate those surpassed by Michael Pennick Jr.
Speaker 2: On the depth chart. Raheem says he's been really good.
Speaker 1: You're talking about going through the progressions and actually throwing
Speaker 1: the ball wherever you need to throw it.
Speaker 2: Obviously he has.
Speaker 1: The ability to come out of the pocket a little
Speaker 1: bit better than this time as they're coming off with
Speaker 1: significant injury. That's dramatically improved, like it improved throughout the season.
Speaker 1: But I really love words at from a communications standpoint
Speaker 1: with Michael Pennix Junior and from its coaches. Oh cho, yeah,
Speaker 1: is their quarterback controversy brewing where.
Speaker 2: In Atlanta?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Come on, man, absolutely not absolutely not listen. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm not there to see, but I do see all
Speaker 3: the plays being made that are posted on social media
Speaker 3: on Twitter. Every time I look up at Drake London
Speaker 3: making a play. Well, hell, the same quarterbacks throwing the
Speaker 3: ball every time I see something. When training camp first started,
Speaker 3: all the players, I see Kyle Pitts and they talking.
Speaker 3: He's talking to the media about the connection between you.
Speaker 3: Between Pinnix and Kyle Pitts has been different. You know
Speaker 3: this seaon. Yeah, he's my security blanket. We want to
Speaker 3: make an effort to get in the ball. So now
Speaker 3: this is just a second we get training camp. How
Speaker 3: is this even a story? I have no idea, but
Speaker 3: we know who quarterback number one is. Yes, it is,
Speaker 3: and it's not an issue. It's not an issue at all.
Speaker 3: He's shown what he can do when he got in
Speaker 3: last year. His opportunity is now there's no issues at
Speaker 3: that position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously he's coming off of an
Speaker 1: achilles injury, so obviously he should He's a year removed
Speaker 1: from that injury. Now, Cousins has never been fleet of foot.
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever going to confuse him with Lamar Jackson or
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Justin Fields, one of these mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: No Russ in his prime, nobody's going to confuse him
Speaker 1: with one of those. But to have a little bit
Speaker 1: more more, a little bit more mobility than what he
Speaker 1: had last year because he was already.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, damn slow, Now you're coming off an Achilles injury.
Speaker 2: Where you going right? I wouldn't pay I wouldn't anything
Speaker 2: but a couple of five twenty two?
Speaker 4: Man on it.
Speaker 2: You ain't going nowhere? Where you going? Where is he
Speaker 2: going right? Nowhere? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We know what he can do.
Speaker 2: Oh he get throw it? Now, you get him time
Speaker 2: He'll pick.
Speaker 3: Your part, pick you apart like a like a surgeon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he'll pick your part now you a.
Speaker 3: He's surgical with that ball now.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, you get no, you get no denying
Speaker 2: from me. But uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't. They can't. They can't go backwards. Once
Speaker 3: you once you, once you go and move on to
Speaker 3: your young gun. You ride it out.
Speaker 1: You got to say all the positive things. Oh he's
Speaker 1: going and hopefully a hope. That's another Cleveland could have
Speaker 1: traded for cousins.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but see see if oh Yoe thigs of it.
Speaker 1: Bad man, I can't. I can't. I can't find it.
Speaker 1: If you look hard, you find jobs out here. You
Speaker 1: have a job you're looking for, right.
Speaker 3: Say you heard what you just said, what kind of
Speaker 3: job you're looking for? Just because they could have traded
Speaker 3: for him, doesn't mean he would accept it. Said trade
Speaker 3: you know? Do you know that trade that you know
Speaker 3: that conversation exactly has no trade That conversations would have
Speaker 3: come through quarterbacks in the NFL in choosing where they
Speaker 3: want to go. But I think players they don't have
Speaker 3: a choice.
Speaker 4: They traded to quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Ask you this, Joe for a chance to start or
Speaker 2: be a backup.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. That's that's a good question. Now
Speaker 3: depending on who you are, well, hell, if you on
Speaker 3: the goddamn trade block, I mean you, you ain't really
Speaker 3: got no power to say whether you want to start
Speaker 3: or not. Because if you, if you are who you thought,
Speaker 3: you were traded, and you wouldn't be getting traded in
Speaker 3: the first place.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, So I definitely think that's a situation. Look
Speaker 1: like you said, you know what Cousins is, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: protect him. He can pick you apart. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of players off script. He's not
Speaker 1: going to get it. He's not looking to get outside
Speaker 1: the pocket, the tackle box. He's looking to be in
Speaker 1: that phone booth. He's not gonna be hard to find.
Speaker 1: He's gonna probably be about nine ten yards deep and
Speaker 1: probably in a seven yard in a seven yard window.
Speaker 2: That's where he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't have the strongest arm, but he's he's
Speaker 1: very accurate because he has great anticipatory skills. He's maximized
Speaker 1: his ability in the NFL. If somebody would have told
Speaker 1: you seen him in college and watched him like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe a bad career back up, but he's parlayed that
Speaker 1: into tremendous success. But I think I think this is Roy.
Speaker 1: He ain't trying to try to build him up. So
Speaker 1: hey man, this car a run like it did when
Speaker 1: I first bought it.
Speaker 2: Ojo. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Look here, man, I know it's thirty years old, but
Speaker 1: it got low mileage on it. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I ain't even driving but a couple couple of times
Speaker 1: all last year, knowing knowing that soon as you get
Speaker 1: it round the corner you have to call the toe,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to call the flat bat to come
Speaker 1: get you. That's why I've been driving.
Speaker 3: It, right, So, uh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Michael Pennick Junior is involved in a practice fight Onjo
Speaker 1: versus the Titan. After passed to wide receiver Ray Ray McLeod,
Speaker 1: the third Pennix the changed heated words with several Titans defenders.
Speaker 1: The trash talking quickly escalated into a physical altercation, prompting
Speaker 1: players from both sides to rush to field. Pinnix ended
Speaker 1: up in the center of the scrum and appeared to
Speaker 1: be slammed to the turf. O Joe as a teammate,
Speaker 1: do you salute Pinnick for showing he isn't scared to
Speaker 1: defend himself, or do you tell him.
Speaker 3: Broo, No, no, no, no, you you telling me that's
Speaker 3: what do you want?
Speaker 4: Pennic got that dog in him.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: Oh you don't don't listen to and I ain't trying
Speaker 4: to hear all that. I want a quarterback. That's just justice.
Speaker 4: FIE's arebody jo Bir throws a punch and breaks his hand.
Speaker 2: You cool with that?
Speaker 3: They say, got into altercase and they say nobody throwing
Speaker 3: no punches.
Speaker 1: He was slam to the turf? Did you hear that part?
Speaker 1: Let me repeat that. Pennix ended up at the center
Speaker 1: of the scrum and appeared to be slammed to the turf.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that part?
Speaker 3: I don't think he won slam. You know when things
Speaker 3: are written, like when things are written, when things are written,
Speaker 3: they gonna exaggerate.
Speaker 4: They're gonna make it so bad.
Speaker 2: What didn't what they shown?
Speaker 4: Please show me? And I guarantee no, we're.
Speaker 1: Not finn show nothing. We're absolutely not gonna show it.
Speaker 4: As ask sent it to me.
Speaker 3: Asked, I guarantee you they didn't pick him up and
Speaker 3: slam it to the turf.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you that didn't happen. For one.
Speaker 3: Even if you're an opponent and you're in a joint practice,
Speaker 3: there's not one defensive player the joint practice to get
Speaker 3: the Titans right.
Speaker 4: Yes, there's not one player.
Speaker 3: On the defensive I mean on the defensive side of
Speaker 3: the Titans. That was slam Penning Jr. Whether mad or not,
Speaker 3: they just not.
Speaker 1: I disagree. So let me ask you a question. In
Speaker 1: the Jets, in the Geno Smith situation, what happened with that?
Speaker 1: A defensive player that punched the quarterback?
Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? Wait?
Speaker 4: And Geno Smith, what happened.
Speaker 1: When he was in New York? But go back and google.
Speaker 1: I'll let you google it. We don't need to rehab that.
Speaker 1: So this notion that people will contain themselves when they
Speaker 1: get upset, it's just not true.
Speaker 2: Ojo.
Speaker 1: You know that, and I know that, especially because I
Speaker 1: don't know Pennick Jr.
Speaker 2: He on Atlanta. I'm with the Titans. But you're also
Speaker 2: looking at him.
Speaker 1: He's not Lamar, He's not one of these other he's
Speaker 1: not one of these top flight quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: They don't hold him in high regard like that.
Speaker 3: Even if they don't hold him in high regard because
Speaker 3: he's not the top five quarterbacks in the NFL. Defensive
Speaker 3: players the ones, I'm sure it's ones on ones. They
Speaker 3: still respect him and not going to try and hurt
Speaker 3: the quarterback in a joint practice by slamming them.
Speaker 4: They just not even if they're mad.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Michael Pennick Junie speaks on the fight. Say he threw
Speaker 1: a deep ball to Ray Ray McLeod and celebrated. I'm
Speaker 1: from Tampa, I'm from Dade City. We're all playing, we're
Speaker 1: all about competing at a high level. But when but
Speaker 1: when disrespects comes in, it's like, all right, this ain't
Speaker 1: football no more. They had a lot of words on practice,
Speaker 1: so I gave them some word.
Speaker 3: Because the Tennessee Titan players were talking trash yesterday. I
Speaker 3: saw the clips yesterday with the Tennessee Titan players talking
Speaker 3: trash and Boom offensively, Penix and Ray Ray offensively collectively
Speaker 3: as a group. They must have they must have got
Speaker 3: in there, you know what today they just a little look,
Speaker 3: little little friendly trash.
Speaker 4: You know, you know how them.
Speaker 2: Join I ain't. I've never seen no quarterbacks get into it.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks moves away they don't do no talking because
Speaker 1: there's two risks too risky.
Speaker 3: I got you, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2: But your quarterback Carson would have done something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Carson, feisty boy, Carson.
Speaker 2: I'm just y'all.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I just played a different era. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I played in quarterbacks, did didn't get involved in stuff
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 2: Too risky.
Speaker 3: You know you know who would do it. Twelve, the
Speaker 3: greatest quarterback of all time would be right in your face.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean he he he ah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I saw, I saw my own ass.
Speaker 3: But I I understand what you're saying. But I'm not
Speaker 3: even there. I'm not even at the joint practice.
Speaker 1: But y'all, did y'all have didn't have I don't know
Speaker 1: if they had him like that back then when you
Speaker 1: was playing.
Speaker 3: We had him with the Saints. Me and Mike, Mike McKenzie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Me and Mike McKenzie had a Oh we had a
Speaker 3: ball like that. Boy. It was that with somebody else
Speaker 3: we had joint practice with. We had a lot of fights,
Speaker 3: a lot of fights.
Speaker 4: And it never comes.
Speaker 3: It's never fists, it's always just grabbing and then everybody
Speaker 3: it's just like one big scar. It's funny, and then
Speaker 3: you go right back to practicing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, normally the quarterback might have had might have said something,
Speaker 1: and then they he tells off his alignmental he tells
Speaker 1: us and we doing it. But the last thing you
Speaker 1: want is a quarterback end of the shoulder, ending of
Speaker 1: engine the thumb or hand punching something or getting or
Speaker 1: getting punched.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I definitely we wouldn't. It wouldn't get to that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny, especially when it comes to the
Speaker 3: beat writers and and those that are watching, they will
Speaker 3: exaggerate what happened and what's being said and make it
Speaker 3: seem like it was, oh, it was so awful.
Speaker 4: So I take some of the things.
Speaker 3: That they say, you tell you what a grain of
Speaker 3: salt with a grain of salt on, because they know,
Speaker 3: look I look at I look at the caps.
Speaker 4: I look at some of the captions to some of.
Speaker 3: The players that are being made, Like was that even
Speaker 3: necessary to even say it or word it that way
Speaker 3: just to get people to click in, like come on now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, look, I ain't got no problem with
Speaker 1: the quarterback protecting, but when it comes to like being
Speaker 1: in the scrum.
Speaker 2: You let scrum.
Speaker 3: You get out of the way.
Speaker 1: God a cause when people get hey, they punching, they
Speaker 1: punching whatever. They ain't got the same color they got on,
Speaker 1: they punch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Remember remember the one damn the ram the Rams
Speaker 3: in the Bengals had had the joint practice and Aaron
Speaker 3: Donald got into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah to do with helmet off. Yeah, man, you see
Speaker 1: a bunch of that going on.
Speaker 3: Hold on, matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, for
Speaker 3: all the teams that are having a joint practice, it's
Speaker 3: been a fight on Twitter and social media, on instagrams
Speaker 3: at every joint practice.
Speaker 1: It's always somebody getting the best of you. You ain't finna
Speaker 1: get the best of me.
Speaker 3: I see Calvin really out there going off. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: did you see the goddamn clips of a mon Ross
Speaker 3: Saint Brown against the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Wait, what's up to you? It ain't looking good for y'all.
Speaker 4: Yoh my goodness, Jesus.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, and that that would be my only
Speaker 2: thing pick at you.
Speaker 1: Look, I ain't got no problem talking. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: my talking from over here, and y'all gonna keepalking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna bomb y'all laps again, especially you, because you
Speaker 1: you the worst one. You're doing the most talking, and
Speaker 1: you the worst one. As a matter of fact, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna shoe You're gonna make it till the next weekend.
Speaker 1: But most of the time, you know why, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's that's my kind of carrying on right there.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's all I'm doing with you.
Speaker 3: That's my kind of carrying on right there.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm doing. Well.
Speaker 3: As the end of the day, Listen, we're here to
Speaker 3: get better, We here to compete. Hey, trash talking is
Speaker 3: just a part of the game.
Speaker 2: Hey, bro, you got your CD on license? You need them? Oh,
Speaker 2: what's a go?
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the last one you want to get
Speaker 1: especially in like a joint practice, Like everybody can hear everything,
Speaker 1: the fans can actually hear what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: it's just something about it is just so easy to
Speaker 1: get open in practice.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about you.
Speaker 3: It's different.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe I'm invisible. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: Maybe I just like I'm tired. I'm tired of you
Speaker 1: just talking. You on my nerves right right right, So
Speaker 1: let me put a stop to this.
Speaker 3: It's only one way to put a stop to it,
Speaker 3: and that's in between the green grass and the white lines.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: I'm cooking. I'm cooking, So just be careful.
Speaker 1: Pinnis rookie Shamar Stewart hits Joe Burrow at practice leading
Speaker 1: to the brawl.
Speaker 2: Another check out the video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2: Look like stunt. He got a balance.
Speaker 4: Oh he's all balance.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you can't hit the quarterback, your team, your teammate.
Speaker 1: You can't hit the quarterback.
Speaker 3: You hit the quarterback if anything, if anything, most of
Speaker 3: the time as a rookie, as he gets better, he
Speaker 3: understands just to go on by.
Speaker 2: He stood off balance because you see he got too
Speaker 2: far over extending.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was going down and.
Speaker 1: Then if he pulls up, So why'd you stop? Well, coach,
Speaker 1: I was off balanced, saying we hit the quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think coaching coaches understand, especially in that scenario, especially
Speaker 3: going against the ones. Look, he's right, he's all balanced
Speaker 3: right there. Yeah see, and Joe is already playing. So
Speaker 3: Joe can't even he can't even react to it.
Speaker 1: M And and that's the worst. That's the worst because
Speaker 1: Joe is playing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, I know he got that. I know they
Speaker 2: gave it.
Speaker 1: They gave him a fifth hundred headaches. Now, if you
Speaker 1: if you want to start the ball in practice, hit up.
Speaker 3: Hit the quarterback right now. Now we talk about the quarterback. Yes,
Speaker 3: hit the quarterback. All you gotta do is run on
Speaker 3: by a matter of fact, duck, duck and run on
Speaker 3: by so he can continue with the throw, so his
Speaker 3: hand doesn't hit your helmet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't want to go to
Speaker 2: the side. Yeah boy, he thought.
Speaker 3: Boy, you don't want that. You don't want you don't
Speaker 3: want the problems.
Speaker 1: Ted Carroll said after practice that Shamar running into Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow on the pass rush sparked a response from the
Speaker 1: old line. Come on, man, that's all our hopes and
Speaker 1: dreams right here. But we've got to be better too.
Speaker 1: That's on us. Oh they quarterback. Oh yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't get that.
Speaker 3: Hey, I like what cars.
Speaker 1: Practice a practice with your guys, go every time you
Speaker 1: touch the quarterback, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: But I like what. I like what the lineman said.
Speaker 3: That's on us. Listen, if it's a stunt. You already
Speaker 3: know if they passing it off, they pass it off
Speaker 3: right next man, because if it's if that's a game situation, hell.
Speaker 2: See the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot easier when you can study it
Speaker 1: and know that's a possibility. See when you're going to
Speaker 1: get your own guys. You you a they set you
Speaker 1: up perfect. You're like, oh man, or I got he whip,
Speaker 1: And next day you know that guy is up on
Speaker 1: you before you know it. So if you're not careful,
Speaker 1: if you do too much like this, here them shoulders turn.
Speaker 3: It's a rap rap.
Speaker 1: So you got you got to stay as square as
Speaker 1: you possibly can. Shove that guy onto the tackle. And
Speaker 1: once you see him disappear, somebody gotta be coming, somebody coming. Hey, God,
Speaker 1: cross your face. You oh you think he just going?
Speaker 1: Somebody coming around. They got to because he disappeared. He
Speaker 1: leaving a gap. They're not gonna leave a gap vacated.
Speaker 1: But uh, he'll, like I said here, he'll rookie.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: This ain't this ain't college. If you hit the quarterback everything,
Speaker 1: honky dory, they tear your ass up.
Speaker 3: They they go get you.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they did it.
Speaker 1: And and and and and and and your at your school,
Speaker 1: little Joe. But but in the NFL, if you hit
Speaker 1: the quarterback, get.
Speaker 3: You listen, he's gonna be a fight every time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a fight every time. But I obviously, obviously whoever his
Speaker 3: position coach probably talked to him. I'm sure Zach Taylor
Speaker 3: talked to him. He probably apologized to Joe after the fact.
Speaker 3: And those better. Now, if you come clean on a
Speaker 3: stunt or move or whatever it may be, just run
Speaker 3: by the quarterback. Yep, just run by him. You know,
Speaker 3: we know you, We know it would be a sack.
Speaker 2: We know.
Speaker 1: Coach Davis as a better state. Somebody hit the quarterback?
Speaker 1: Can you play quarterback?
Speaker 2: Son? Can you play quarterback? No? So the water f
Speaker 2: did you hit it? Oh man?
Speaker 3: That's funny how.
Speaker 1: You played defensive live but it all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you was a quarterback. I mean, I guess you could
Speaker 1: have transitioned normally. Did quarterbacks transition on the offensive side?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a corner. They don't really transition to D
Speaker 1: line on YO, Absolutely no cowboys on the Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: irk his fan base after admitting his team is a
Speaker 1: soap opera. Three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 1: Jones made the comments during the red carpet interview before
Speaker 1: the premium of Netflix America's Team The Gambler and his
Speaker 1: Cowboys documentary. The Cowboys are soap opera through under sixty
Speaker 1: five days a year. When it gets slow, I stirred up.
Speaker 1: And so it's wonderful to have great athletes, to have
Speaker 1: great players. But there's something more there. They're sizzle, there's emotion,
Speaker 1: and if you will, there's controversy. That controversy is good
Speaker 1: stuff in terms of keeping and having people's attention.
Speaker 3: We've been saying that for the longest.
Speaker 2: Huh, hen't saying nothing about winning? What wait? Wait, you
Speaker 2: got winning in.
Speaker 1: There that George, he's not focused I thought winning. I
Speaker 1: thought winning is something you did three sixty five.
Speaker 3: You're not focused on that. He's not. He's not focused
Speaker 3: on that. The most profitable franchise, not worried about all
Speaker 3: the sports, and all the sports were worried about. Line
Speaker 3: in them pockets. That's it, and the product, the product
Speaker 3: is gonna sell hisself. The fact that he doesn't even
Speaker 3: have to say anything because the product gonna sell itself.
Speaker 3: The fact that he does say something, it makes it
Speaker 3: even worse.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys is no different than Blue Magic. There's
Speaker 3: no different Blue Magic. You saw American gangster those in
Speaker 3: the chat.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about. Blue Magic sells itself.
Speaker 3: You don't have to take the product and cut it up,
Speaker 3: do any talk, and do anything extra. It's the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, if I told you name me, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna remove the top five, yeah, I'm gonna say. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remove the top ten, name ten through twenty
Speaker 1: of the richest people in the world. You couldn't you
Speaker 1: see if Jared didn't say anything, nobody would know who
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: And he wants you to know who he is.
Speaker 1: It's not good enough that he owns the most the
Speaker 1: most valuable, the most lucrative, the most profitable franchise in sports.
Speaker 2: That's not enough.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 2: He wants to be the face.
Speaker 1: Like Patrick Mahons is the face of the Chiefs, Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow is the face, Lamar is the face.
Speaker 2: Jerry doesn't want that. Jerry wants to be the face.
Speaker 3: Listen, the product sells itself. The fact that he just
Speaker 3: adds to it it just heightens everything. But Jerry Jones
Speaker 3: is Nikky bonds Man, you don't care.