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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. You know that's not gonna happen. That's

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Speaker 3: you know, And they're not going to start with the

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Speaker 2: No, Joe, Huh, you're not trying to win.

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Speaker 3: You're you say that you're not trying to win.

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Speaker 1: So you're trying to win. You go get you go

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Speaker 1: get Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett. That's what that. Those

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Speaker 3: Well, hold on, what other options did they have?

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Speaker 4: They had no other options?

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Speaker 1: So there were no other quarterbacks available other than Joe

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Speaker 3: Well, what quarterbacks were available that can actually put the

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Speaker 2: North was justin fields available.

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Speaker 1: Joe, you know, okay, you knew you wasn't gonna bring it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Or we okay with them? Moving on? Right?

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Speaker 1: So for me, when you got an eighteen year vet,

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Speaker 3: I mean at some point, and that's where your number

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Speaker 1: But there are things that even though Joe Flacco was

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Speaker 1: I was never I was never sold on Kenny Pickett. Right,

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Speaker 3: That's that's exactly what That's exactly where I was going

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Speaker 3: How did he look? How did he look?

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Speaker 3: Now, now we will see, We will see because Kenny

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Speaker 1: It's hard to evaluate him when he was in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: was it right, But some you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it might not happen this year. You might have to

437
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Speaker 1: have a delayed success where it doesn't happen this year,

438
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Speaker 1: but it happened next year, and it might be two

439
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Speaker 1: or three times, Joe, you a but I think you know,

440
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: you know, give yourself an opportunity to say, you know what,

441
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep'mna keep training. Maybe somebody calls me back,

442
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: put me on the practice squad, and I might be

443
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Speaker 1: going into a situation where I don't know the plays,

444
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: but I definitely be going into a situation where I'm

445
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: in shape as in shape as I can possibly be,

446
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: given that I will not have played football in a week,

447
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: two weeks, maybe even a month. That's what you can

448
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: hope for. Yeah, but that's that's that's the reality of

449
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 1: professional football now. Obviously it's not that many basketball players.

450
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean, but you look at thirty teams and then

451
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: fifteen players for roster, so you look at four hundred

452
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Speaker 1: and fifty.

453
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Speaker 2: They're gonna cut double that because you're thinking about, oh, Joe,

454
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 2: you got eighty, You got eighty.

455
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Speaker 3: On the roster right now, and they got you gotta

456
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Speaker 3: get down to fifty three. To get down to fifty three,

457
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: three you got to bring you get back.

458
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Speaker 2: You get sick, but you get back, you get by twenty.

459
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Speaker 1: You can get put by Tweint on the practice squad

460
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Speaker 1: twenty I think, so how many how many practice squad

461
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Speaker 1: players could have got. I think it's a high number.

462
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Speaker 1: This is a high teams.

463
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Speaker 2: Oh hoe, fifteen to twenty so oh that change then?

464
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, been changed.

465
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Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I ain't know that. I had no idea.

466
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Speaker 3: I had no idea. Okay, okay, okay, sixteen sixteen, Okay.

467
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Speaker 1: So you get sixteen. Well, if he's an international player,

468
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Speaker 1: could be seventeen.

469
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Speaker 3: So that's dope.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, don't you know like a

472
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Speaker 1: lot of these So because at first you had ninety,

473
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Speaker 1: then you get down there, you go to cam with eighty,

474
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: and now you that's twenty seven. So you releasing six

475
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven hundred, yes, with thirty times twenty.

476
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Speaker 1: So think about how many players you're actually releasing.

477
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Speaker 3: Right, Hey, but man, you know the definition of malpractice.

478
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. The malpractice is Yeah, absolutely.

479
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: Those that are in positions of power that make the

480
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: calls at that organization. I think everybody needs to be

481
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Speaker 3: fired if they don't get it right this time. They

482
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: do because enough is enough. Thirty five different quarterback positions

483
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: and you have to find success in having one for

484
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: a decade, you haven't had the luck.

485
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Speaker 2: I do give him a for effort. They keep trying,

486
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Speaker 2: but come on, man, I mean, ojo.

487
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Speaker 1: If somebody would have told you, given what you know,

488
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Speaker 1: a twenty six year old Deshaun Watson in his absolute

489
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Speaker 1: apex prime, if somebody would have told you that it

490
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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work, you wouldn't have believed them. He had

491
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Speaker 1: just led the league in passing. Yeah, just led the

492
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Speaker 1: league in passing. Now, obviously there are other circumstances. But

493
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Speaker 1: and then he gets injured.

494
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Speaker 3: What was it?

495
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Speaker 1: He turns acl then he messes up where he messed

496
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Speaker 1: up his shoulder, I think first, and then it's oh no, no,

497
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Speaker 1: this's a key leeds.

498
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Speaker 2: It was his key leads. And then he reached he

499
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Speaker 2: reinjures that.

500
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Speaker 1: So that's I think that's where because they thought they

501
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Speaker 1: had their quarterback for the next decade.

502
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Speaker 2: Yes, I thought they had their quarterback for the next decade.

503
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Speaker 1: Same nobody would if you go back and look at

504
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson when they made this, there's no no, Deshaun

505
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Speaker 1: Watson is not out of your top ten. As a

506
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Speaker 1: matter of fact, a lot of people probably had him

507
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Speaker 1: in the top five. So and we had never seen

508
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Speaker 1: a quarterback this young in his prime.

509
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Speaker 4: That's been not injured available be available never.

510
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Speaker 1: They never come available, not in their prime. Even Brady

511
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: became available, but he wasn't his prime. Now he still

512
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: played well, but Brady was not gonna be available in

513
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: your six. Peyton Manny was not gonna be available in

514
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Speaker 1: year six, Aaron Rodgers, Brent Farv, Joe Montana. They're not

515
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Speaker 1: available in year six. Deshaun Watson was available in year

516
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Speaker 1: six and his absolute prime. So they thought that I

517
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: give them the utmost credit because they traded it off

518
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: a lot to get him, And that's what you have.

519
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: What would a team trade to get their hands on

520
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: a Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or Josh Allen You

521
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: traded off a lot, yes you would, or Lamar Jackson

522
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Speaker 1: you would, absolutely.

523
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Speaker 2: So with that being said, I give them credit.

524
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Speaker 1: Now they gagged on a lot of other ones too,

525
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: But I can't say that they get I mean, it

526
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Speaker 1: looks hindsight because it's a magnificent signs because we have

527
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Speaker 1: the luxury of knowing today what we didn't know yesterday.

528
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: But at the time they're like, oh yeah, perfect, Now

529
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Speaker 1: you look at what they turned that into. You know,

530
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Speaker 1: they probably got will Landerson junior and they got the

531
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Speaker 1: high lives of Nicocollins or and some of these other

532
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: dress You're like, well it worked out.

533
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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, absolutely, but.

534
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just something, something is I just can't put

535
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Speaker 2: my hand on it.

536
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Speaker 1: I wish, I wish that your duel was healthy and

537
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: was playing in this game, because it would crystallize things

538
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: a lot for me, O Joe, it really would.

539
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, things are going to crystallize themselves regardless.

540
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: Huh.

541
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Speaker 3: Even if he doesn't play this game, him not playing

542
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: this game, ob it could be a blessed.

543
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: I got three injured quarterbacks, So how did the crystallize?

544
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: You got three injured quarterback, one having a blaque and

545
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: two got ham strings?

546
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: So how does the crystallize?

547
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel's playing this weekend.

548
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel is getting this opportunity to play.

549
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: How long you know ham strings? You know how they are?

550
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: Okay? How about this?

551
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: Okay?

552
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 3: If Shadur looked that way in the first preseason game, right, yes,

553
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Speaker 3: And Dylan Gabriel plays this week and doesn't look as

554
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Speaker 3: good as your door did.

555
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: Well, your door bid play against the same caliber talent

556
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: that Dylan Gabriel. I'm just preparing you for what they're

557
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna say. Oh Joe, see you already know what they're

558
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna say too.

559
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: You can't deny, you can't. You can't deny what's for you,

560
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: no matter how, no matter how much they try to

561
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Speaker 3: stall the process on what's to be, it's going to

562
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Speaker 3: be regardless.

563
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, regardless agree.

564
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Speaker 3: They can play. They can play the political game all

565
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: they want. They can play merry go around with the

566
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: quarterback situation all they want. Hadn't come out and say

567
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: this is not the quarterback I wanted. But Andrew Berry,

568
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: when all that is said and done, will look like Einstein.

569
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: He can look like Einstein. He just is.

570
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: It is.

571
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Speaker 2: You can't.

572
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't deny it.

573
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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. I don't. I don't.

574
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Speaker 1: But it's just hard to compete in that division when

575
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: you got two of the best quarterbacks, and the two

576
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: of the top four quarterbacks reside in that division, then

577
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: you put them in when you say, okay, give me

578
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: your top five quarterbacks, it's gonna be Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen,

579
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson pose a the four. Two of the

580
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: four that I mentioned reside in the AFC North. So

581
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Speaker 1: if you want to win that division and you want

582
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: to be competitive year and a year out, you're gonna

583
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: have to find a way to beat those two quarterbacks

584
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: and listen, and they're gonna be there for the extended

585
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: None of those quarterbacks are thirty, So you got to

586
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Speaker 1: deal with him for the next.

587
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: Five to ten.

588
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: And you also have another And I don't want to

589
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: discredit him. I know he had to look good the

590
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: past two years, but you don't have to. Ain't no

591
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 3: slous down there in Pittsburgh.

592
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Either, right, The only thing you're not gonna have to

593
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: deal with him for another five to ten. But you're right, Yeah,

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: but you're right. So I just know, I don't know

595
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: what Yoe.

596
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm excited to see how it turns out. I

597
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: know football is back in twenty two days. If I'm

598
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: not mistaken. I think I got my numbers right. And

599
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: I want to see who's going to be quarterback number

600
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Speaker 3: one for the Cleveland Browns. I want to see. I

601
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: know how it's going to play out. I know Joe

602
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: Flackham going to be the starter.

603
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Speaker 4: He's the veteran. He's the veteran.

604
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: We know what he's done. When he was at the Helm,

605
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: he went on a five to six game run. It

606
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: was phenomenal.

607
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: Look crazy.

608
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Speaker 3: I also saw what she do or did when he

609
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: got his opportunity despite being low on the depth chart.

610
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: Now we can see what Dylan Gabriel can do this Saturday.

611
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Speaker 3: I don't even know who they playing. Who they're playing, Philly, Yes, huh.

612
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: Okay, chat, we know whe's to have David and Joku.

613
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: We believe.

614
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: He's kind of falling asleep, and so once we can

615
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: get him awake, we'll definitely we'll definitely.

616
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: He definitely break him on with you guys.

617
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: But they have they have, they had practice they huh yes,

618
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: oh yeah, And.

619
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Speaker 1: We know what time it is. It's it's ten thirty

620
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: on the East Coast training camp. Now it's different, I

621
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Speaker 1: mean because we stayed up till one, two, three in

622
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Speaker 1: the morning. But these guys, you know, they get their sleep,

623
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Speaker 1: and I understand that. But I promise you, if we

624
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: can get him awake, we'll get him on here for

625
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: you guys.

626
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: Raheem Moore seems to be.

627
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: Pleased with Kirk Cousins plate those surpassed by Michael Pennick Jr.

628
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: On the depth chart. Raheem says he's been really good.

629
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Speaker 1: You're talking about going through the progressions and actually throwing

630
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: the ball wherever you need to throw it.

631
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Speaker 2: Obviously he has.

632
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Speaker 1: The ability to come out of the pocket a little

633
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: bit better than this time as they're coming off with

634
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: significant injury. That's dramatically improved, like it improved throughout the season.

635
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: But I really love words at from a communications standpoint

636
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: with Michael Pennix Junior and from its coaches. Oh cho, yeah,

637
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: is their quarterback controversy brewing where.

638
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: In Atlanta?

639
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Come on, man, absolutely not absolutely not listen. I'm

640
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm not there to see, but I do see all

641
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: the plays being made that are posted on social media

642
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: on Twitter. Every time I look up at Drake London

643
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: making a play. Well, hell, the same quarterbacks throwing the

644
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 3: ball every time I see something. When training camp first started,

645
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: all the players, I see Kyle Pitts and they talking.

646
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: He's talking to the media about the connection between you.

647
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: Between Pinnix and Kyle Pitts has been different. You know

648
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: this seaon. Yeah, he's my security blanket. We want to

649
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: make an effort to get in the ball. So now

650
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: this is just a second we get training camp. How

651
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: is this even a story? I have no idea, but

652
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: we know who quarterback number one is. Yes, it is,

653
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: and it's not an issue. It's not an issue at all.

654
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: He's shown what he can do when he got in

655
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: last year. His opportunity is now there's no issues at

656
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: that position.

657
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously he's coming off of an

658
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: achilles injury, so obviously he should He's a year removed

659
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: from that injury. Now, Cousins has never been fleet of foot.

660
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever going to confuse him with Lamar Jackson or

661
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Justin Fields, one of these mobile quarterbacks.

662
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: No Russ in his prime, nobody's going to confuse him

663
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: with one of those. But to have a little bit

664
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: more more, a little bit more mobility than what he

665
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: had last year because he was already.

666
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, damn slow, Now you're coming off an Achilles injury.

667
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 2: Where you going right? I wouldn't pay I wouldn't anything

668
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: but a couple of five twenty two?

669
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: Man on it.

670
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: You ain't going nowhere? Where you going? Where is he

671
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: going right? Nowhere? Yeah?

672
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: We know what he can do.

673
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: Oh he get throw it? Now, you get him time

674
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: He'll pick.

675
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: Your part, pick you apart like a like a surgeon.

676
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he'll pick your part now you a.

677
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 3: He's surgical with that ball now.

678
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, you get no, you get no denying

679
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: from me. But uh.

680
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't. They can't. They can't go backwards. Once

681
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: you once you, once you go and move on to

682
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: your young gun. You ride it out.

683
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: You got to say all the positive things. Oh he's

684
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: going and hopefully a hope. That's another Cleveland could have

685
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: traded for cousins.

686
00:34:50,920 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but see see if oh Yoe thigs of it.

687
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Bad man, I can't. I can't. I can't find it.

688
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: If you look hard, you find jobs out here. You

689
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: have a job you're looking for, right.

690
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: Say you heard what you just said, what kind of

691
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: job you're looking for? Just because they could have traded

692
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: for him, doesn't mean he would accept it. Said trade

693
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: you know? Do you know that trade that you know

694
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: that conversation exactly has no trade That conversations would have

695
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: come through quarterbacks in the NFL in choosing where they

696
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: want to go. But I think players they don't have

697
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: a choice.

698
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 4: They traded to quarterbacks.

699
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: Ask you this, Joe for a chance to start or

700
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: be a backup.

701
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: That's a good question. That's that's a good question. Now

702
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: depending on who you are, well, hell, if you on

703
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: the goddamn trade block, I mean you, you ain't really

704
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: got no power to say whether you want to start

705
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 3: or not. Because if you, if you are who you thought,

706
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: you were traded, and you wouldn't be getting traded in

707
00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: the first place.

708
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: Mm hm, So I definitely think that's a situation. Look

709
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: like you said, you know what Cousins is, Yeah, you

710
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: protect him. He can pick you apart. He's not gonna

711
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of players off script. He's not

712
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: going to get it. He's not looking to get outside

713
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: the pocket, the tackle box. He's looking to be in

714
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: that phone booth. He's not gonna be hard to find.

715
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna probably be about nine ten yards deep and

716
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: probably in a seven yard in a seven yard window.

717
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: That's where he's gonna be.

718
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't have the strongest arm, but he's he's

719
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: very accurate because he has great anticipatory skills. He's maximized

720
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: his ability in the NFL. If somebody would have told

721
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: you seen him in college and watched him like, okay,

722
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: maybe a bad career back up, but he's parlayed that

723
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: into tremendous success. But I think I think this is Roy.

724
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: He ain't trying to try to build him up. So

725
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: hey man, this car a run like it did when

726
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: I first bought it.

727
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Ojo. Yeah, I know.

728
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: Look here, man, I know it's thirty years old, but

729
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: it got low mileage on it. As a matter of fact,

730
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: I ain't even driving but a couple couple of times

731
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: all last year, knowing knowing that soon as you get

732
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: it round the corner you have to call the toe,

733
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to call the flat bat to come

734
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: get you. That's why I've been driving.

735
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: It, right, So, uh, that's a good one.

736
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: Michael Pennick Junior is involved in a practice fight Onjo

737
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: versus the Titan. After passed to wide receiver Ray Ray McLeod,

738
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: the third Pennix the changed heated words with several Titans defenders.

739
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: The trash talking quickly escalated into a physical altercation, prompting

740
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: players from both sides to rush to field. Pinnix ended

741
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: up in the center of the scrum and appeared to

742
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: be slammed to the turf. O Joe as a teammate,

743
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: do you salute Pinnick for showing he isn't scared to

744
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: defend himself, or do you tell him.

745
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: Broo, No, no, no, no, you you telling me that's

746
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: what do you want?

747
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: Pennic got that dog in him.

748
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: I like that.

749
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: Oh you don't don't listen to and I ain't trying

750
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: to hear all that. I want a quarterback. That's just justice.

751
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: FIE's arebody jo Bir throws a punch and breaks his hand.

752
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: You cool with that?

753
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: They say, got into altercase and they say nobody throwing

754
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: no punches.

755
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: He was slam to the turf? Did you hear that part?

756
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: Let me repeat that. Pennix ended up at the center

757
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: of the scrum and appeared to be slammed to the turf.

758
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: Did you hear that part?

759
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: I don't think he won slam. You know when things

760
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: are written, like when things are written, when things are written,

761
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: they gonna exaggerate.

762
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 4: They're gonna make it so bad.

763
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: What didn't what they shown?

764
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: Please show me? And I guarantee no, we're.

765
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: Not finn show nothing. We're absolutely not gonna show it.

766
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: As ask sent it to me.

767
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: Asked, I guarantee you they didn't pick him up and

768
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: slam it to the turf.

769
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: I guarantee you that didn't happen. For one.

770
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: Even if you're an opponent and you're in a joint practice,

771
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: there's not one defensive player the joint practice to get

772
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: the Titans right.

773
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Yes, there's not one player.

774
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: On the defensive I mean on the defensive side of

775
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: the Titans. That was slam Penning Jr. Whether mad or not,

776
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: they just not.

777
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: I disagree. So let me ask you a question. In

778
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: the Jets, in the Geno Smith situation, what happened with that?

779
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: A defensive player that punched the quarterback?

780
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? Wait?

781
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: And Geno Smith, what happened.

782
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: When he was in New York? But go back and google.

783
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: I'll let you google it. We don't need to rehab that.

784
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: So this notion that people will contain themselves when they

785
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: get upset, it's just not true.

786
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: Ojo.

787
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: You know that, and I know that, especially because I

788
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: don't know Pennick Jr.

789
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: He on Atlanta. I'm with the Titans. But you're also

790
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: looking at him.

791
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: He's not Lamar, He's not one of these other he's

792
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: not one of these top flight quarterbacks.

793
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: They don't hold him in high regard like that.

794
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: Even if they don't hold him in high regard because

795
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: he's not the top five quarterbacks in the NFL. Defensive

796
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 3: players the ones, I'm sure it's ones on ones. They

797
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: still respect him and not going to try and hurt

798
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: the quarterback in a joint practice by slamming them.

799
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 4: They just not even if they're mad.

800
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

801
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: Michael Pennick Junie speaks on the fight. Say he threw

802
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: a deep ball to Ray Ray McLeod and celebrated. I'm

803
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: from Tampa, I'm from Dade City. We're all playing, we're

804
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: all about competing at a high level. But when but

805
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: when disrespects comes in, it's like, all right, this ain't

806
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: football no more. They had a lot of words on practice,

807
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: so I gave them some word.

808
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: Because the Tennessee Titan players were talking trash yesterday. I

809
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: saw the clips yesterday with the Tennessee Titan players talking

810
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: trash and Boom offensively, Penix and Ray Ray offensively collectively

811
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: as a group. They must have they must have got

812
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: in there, you know what today they just a little look,

813
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: little little friendly trash.

814
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: You know, you know how them.

815
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: Join I ain't. I've never seen no quarterbacks get into it.

816
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks moves away they don't do no talking because

817
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: there's two risks too risky.

818
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: I got you, I got you, I got you.

819
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: But your quarterback Carson would have done something like that.

820
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Carson, feisty boy, Carson.

821
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm just y'all.

822
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I just played a different era. Hold on,

823
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: I played in quarterbacks, did didn't get involved in stuff

824
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: like that?

825
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: Too risky.

826
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: You know you know who would do it. Twelve, the

827
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: greatest quarterback of all time would be right in your face.

828
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

829
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean he he he ah.

830
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I saw, I saw my own ass.

831
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: But I I understand what you're saying. But I'm not

832
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: even there. I'm not even at the joint practice.

833
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: But y'all, did y'all have didn't have I don't know

834
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: if they had him like that back then when you

835
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: was playing.

836
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: We had him with the Saints. Me and Mike, Mike McKenzie. Yeah,

837
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: Me and Mike McKenzie had a Oh we had a

838
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: ball like that. Boy. It was that with somebody else

839
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: we had joint practice with. We had a lot of fights,

840
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: a lot of fights.

841
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 4: And it never comes.

842
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: It's never fists, it's always just grabbing and then everybody

843
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: it's just like one big scar. It's funny, and then

844
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: you go right back to practicing.

845
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, normally the quarterback might have had might have said something,

846
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: and then they he tells off his alignmental he tells

847
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: us and we doing it. But the last thing you

848
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: want is a quarterback end of the shoulder, ending of

849
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: engine the thumb or hand punching something or getting or

850
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: getting punched.

851
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I definitely we wouldn't. It wouldn't get to that.

852
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: You know.

853
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: You know what's funny, especially when it comes to the

854
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: beat writers and and those that are watching, they will

855
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: exaggerate what happened and what's being said and make it

856
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: seem like it was, oh, it was so awful.

857
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: So I take some of the things.

858
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: That they say, you tell you what a grain of

859
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: salt with a grain of salt on, because they know,

860
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: look I look at I look at the caps.

861
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: I look at some of the captions to some of.

862
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: The players that are being made, Like was that even

863
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: necessary to even say it or word it that way

864
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: just to get people to click in, like come on now.

865
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, look, I ain't got no problem with

866
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: the quarterback protecting, but when it comes to like being

867
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: in the scrum.

868
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: You let scrum.

869
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: You get out of the way.

870
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: God a cause when people get hey, they punching, they

871
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: punching whatever. They ain't got the same color they got on,

872
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: they punch it.

873
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Remember remember the one damn the ram the Rams

874
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: in the Bengals had had the joint practice and Aaron

875
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: Donald got into it.

876
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah to do with helmet off. Yeah, man, you see

877
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of that going on.

878
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: Hold on, matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, for

879
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: all the teams that are having a joint practice, it's

880
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: been a fight on Twitter and social media, on instagrams

881
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: at every joint practice.

882
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: It's always somebody getting the best of you. You ain't finna

883
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: get the best of me.

884
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: I see Calvin really out there going off. Oh my goodness,

885
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 3: did you see the goddamn clips of a mon Ross

886
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: Saint Brown against the Dolphins.

887
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: Wait, what's up to you? It ain't looking good for y'all.

888
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 4: Yoh my goodness, Jesus.

889
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: And so yeah, and that that would be my only

890
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: thing pick at you.

891
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Look, I ain't got no problem talking. I'm gonna do

892
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: my talking from over here, and y'all gonna keepalking. Yeah,

893
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna bomb y'all laps again, especially you, because you

894
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: you the worst one. You're doing the most talking, and

895
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: you the worst one. As a matter of fact, I'm

896
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: not gonna shoe You're gonna make it till the next weekend.

897
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: But most of the time, you know why, I'm gonna

898
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: make sure.

899
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

900
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: Hey, that's that's my kind of carrying on right there.

901
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: That's that's that's all I'm doing with you.

902
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: That's my kind of carrying on right there.

903
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: That's all I'm doing. Well.

904
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: As the end of the day, Listen, we're here to

905
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: get better, We here to compete. Hey, trash talking is

906
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: just a part of the game.

907
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: Hey, bro, you got your CD on license? You need them? Oh,

908
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: what's a go?

909
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the last one you want to get

910
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: especially in like a joint practice, Like everybody can hear everything,

911
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: the fans can actually hear what I'm saying. And then

912
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: it's just something about it is just so easy to

913
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: get open in practice.

914
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about you.

915
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: It's different.

916
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe I'm invisible. I don't know what it was.

917
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I just like I'm tired. I'm tired of you

918
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: just talking. You on my nerves right right right, So

919
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: let me put a stop to this.

920
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: It's only one way to put a stop to it,

921
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: and that's in between the green grass and the white lines.

922
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 4: That's it.

923
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: That's it.

924
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm cooking. I'm cooking, So just be careful.

925
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: Pinnis rookie Shamar Stewart hits Joe Burrow at practice leading

926
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: to the brawl.

927
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: Another check out the video.

928
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

929
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Look like stunt. He got a balance.

930
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: Oh he's all balance.

931
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, you can't hit the quarterback, your team, your teammate.

932
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: You can't hit the quarterback.

933
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: You hit the quarterback if anything, if anything, most of

934
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: the time as a rookie, as he gets better, he

935
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: understands just to go on by.

936
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: He stood off balance because you see he got too

937
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: far over extending.

938
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was going down and.

939
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: Then if he pulls up, So why'd you stop? Well, coach,

940
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: I was off balanced, saying we hit the quarterback.

941
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: I think coaching coaches understand, especially in that scenario, especially

942
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: going against the ones. Look, he's right, he's all balanced

943
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: right there. Yeah see, and Joe is already playing. So

944
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: Joe can't even he can't even react to it.

945
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: M And and that's the worst. That's the worst because

946
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: Joe is playing it.

947
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, I know he got that. I know they

948
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: gave it.

949
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: They gave him a fifth hundred headaches. Now, if you

950
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: if you want to start the ball in practice, hit up.

951
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 3: Hit the quarterback right now. Now we talk about the quarterback. Yes,

952
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: hit the quarterback. All you gotta do is run on

953
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: by a matter of fact, duck, duck and run on

954
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: by so he can continue with the throw, so his

955
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: hand doesn't hit your helmet.

956
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't want to go to

957
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: the side. Yeah boy, he thought.

958
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: Boy, you don't want that. You don't want you don't

959
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: want the problems.

960
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: Ted Carroll said after practice that Shamar running into Joe

961
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Burrow on the pass rush sparked a response from the

962
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: old line. Come on, man, that's all our hopes and

963
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: dreams right here. But we've got to be better too.

964
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: That's on us. Oh they quarterback. Oh yeah, you can't.

965
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: You can't get that.

966
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: Hey, I like what cars.

967
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Practice a practice with your guys, go every time you

968
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: touch the quarterback, it's gonna happen.

969
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: But I like what. I like what the lineman said.

970
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: That's on us. Listen, if it's a stunt. You already

971
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: know if they passing it off, they pass it off

972
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: right next man, because if it's if that's a game situation, hell.

973
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: See the thing.

974
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot easier when you can study it

975
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: and know that's a possibility. See when you're going to

976
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: get your own guys. You you a they set you

977
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: up perfect. You're like, oh man, or I got he whip,

978
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: And next day you know that guy is up on

979
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: you before you know it. So if you're not careful,

980
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: if you do too much like this, here them shoulders turn.

981
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: It's a rap rap.

982
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: So you got you got to stay as square as

983
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: you possibly can. Shove that guy onto the tackle. And

984
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: once you see him disappear, somebody gotta be coming, somebody coming. Hey, God,

985
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: cross your face. You oh you think he just going?

986
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: Somebody coming around. They got to because he disappeared. He

987
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: leaving a gap. They're not gonna leave a gap vacated.

988
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: But uh, he'll, like I said here, he'll rookie.

989
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: Bro.

990
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: This ain't this ain't college. If you hit the quarterback everything,

991
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: honky dory, they tear your ass up.

992
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: They they go get you.

993
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how they did it.

994
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: And and and and and and and your at your school,

995
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: little Joe. But but in the NFL, if you hit

996
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: the quarterback, get.

997
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: You listen, he's gonna be a fight every time. Yeah,

998
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: a fight every time. But I obviously, obviously whoever his

999
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: position coach probably talked to him. I'm sure Zach Taylor

1000
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: talked to him. He probably apologized to Joe after the fact.

1001
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: And those better. Now, if you come clean on a

1002
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: stunt or move or whatever it may be, just run

1003
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: by the quarterback. Yep, just run by him. You know,

1004
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: we know you, We know it would be a sack.

1005
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: We know.

1006
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: Coach Davis as a better state. Somebody hit the quarterback?

1007
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Can you play quarterback?

1008
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: Son? Can you play quarterback? No? So the water f

1009
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: did you hit it? Oh man?

1010
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: That's funny how.

1011
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: You played defensive live but it all of a sudden

1012
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: you was a quarterback. I mean, I guess you could

1013
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: have transitioned normally. Did quarterbacks transition on the offensive side?

1014
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a corner. They don't really transition to D

1015
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: line on YO, Absolutely no cowboys on the Jerry Jones

1016
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: irk his fan base after admitting his team is a

1017
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: soap opera. Three hundred and sixty five days a year.

1018
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Jones made the comments during the red carpet interview before

1019
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: the premium of Netflix America's Team The Gambler and his

1020
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 1: Cowboys documentary. The Cowboys are soap opera through under sixty

1021
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: five days a year. When it gets slow, I stirred up.

1022
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: And so it's wonderful to have great athletes, to have

1023
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: great players. But there's something more there. They're sizzle, there's emotion,

1024
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: and if you will, there's controversy. That controversy is good

1025
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: stuff in terms of keeping and having people's attention.

1026
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 3: We've been saying that for the longest.

1027
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: Huh, hen't saying nothing about winning? What wait? Wait, you

1028
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: got winning in.

1029
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: There that George, he's not focused I thought winning. I

1030
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: thought winning is something you did three sixty five.

1031
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 3: You're not focused on that. He's not. He's not focused

1032
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: on that. The most profitable franchise, not worried about all

1033
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: the sports, and all the sports were worried about. Line

1034
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 3: in them pockets. That's it, and the product, the product

1035
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: is gonna sell hisself. The fact that he doesn't even

1036
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: have to say anything because the product gonna sell itself.

1037
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: The fact that he does say something, it makes it

1038
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: even worse.

1039
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

1040
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys is no different than Blue Magic. There's

1041
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: no different Blue Magic. You saw American gangster those in

1042
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 3: the chat.

1043
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about. Blue Magic sells itself.

1044
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: You don't have to take the product and cut it up,

1045
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: do any talk, and do anything extra. It's the Dallas Cowboys.

1046
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, if I told you name me, if I'm

1047
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: gonna remove the top five, yeah, I'm gonna say. You know,

1048
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remove the top ten, name ten through twenty

1049
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: of the richest people in the world. You couldn't you

1050
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: see if Jared didn't say anything, nobody would know who

1051
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: he is.

1052
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: And he wants you to know who he is.

1053
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: It's not good enough that he owns the most the

1054
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: most valuable, the most lucrative, the most profitable franchise in sports.

1055
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: That's not enough.

1056
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: M h.

1057
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: He wants to be the face.

1058
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Like Patrick Mahons is the face of the Chiefs, Joe

1059
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: Burrow is the face, Lamar is the face.

1060
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: Jerry doesn't want that. Jerry wants to be the face.

1061
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: Listen, the product sells itself. The fact that he just

1062
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: adds to it it just heightens everything. But Jerry Jones

1063
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 3: is Nikky bonds Man, you don't care.