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Speaker 1: with his email, I'm George Rice Stir with Ralph Ampston

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Speaker 1: to podcasts. Let's get to the show, Ralph Man, we

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Speaker 1: like like I like, like we give each other hugs

429
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but it's there's a little bit

430
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: of trepid nation in there. But I wanted to get

431
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: back to Arizona real quick. Ralph is so Arizona says

432
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: that they're open for business completely, and people are like,

433
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: everybody should rush to Arizona. But like I said, it's

434
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: a temporary situation. But then how does that work anyway?

435
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's not like every baseball team could

436
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: then go to Arizona and play and play all there

437
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: are games for first of all, the the stadiums aren't

438
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: even set up for the cameras work and all of

439
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: this stuff, Like how do you get the announcment? I mean,

440
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: it's just an absolute zoo. Yeah, Like so you could

441
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: do some stuff because there's you know, the spring training

442
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: out here, and you do have a lot of stadiums

443
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: and and and you would need to I think that

444
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: that part of it, of figuring out how to broadcast

445
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: it would probably work itself out. But you know, what

446
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: do you do when it do you do this in

447
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: June and July? Because it's hot here and not like

448
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: not like no no, no, no, no, it's not regular hot. No.

449
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: And when people talk about like, oh, it's a dry heat,

450
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: so is fire there, Yeah, it's not. It's it's tough,

451
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: it's no. Yeah. Sunscreen doesn't do anything about melting, right,

452
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: You're not gonna burn, You're gonna melt. And so the

453
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: whole thing with you know, yeah, we got a roofed stadium,

454
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: um for the Diamondbacks. So what do you play three

455
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: or four games a day there, start at nine in

456
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: the morning and go back to back to back to

457
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: back all day so that at least eight teams can

458
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: get it in. Um that's maybe one option. Um. You know,

459
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what Vegas has available. But like there's

460
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: my guess. My guess is when they try to kick

461
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: this thing off, you know they're gonna run into all

462
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: sorts of interesting issues. Part of it's gonna be really

463
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: cool to watch, so George, because like there's nothing more

464
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: fun than innovation, right, But at the same time, you're

465
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: always gonna have in the back of your mind like, uh,

466
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: people getting each other sick. Yeah, well, I think the

467
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: easiest part is the is baseball in terms of because

468
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: if you send half to if you send the teams

469
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: they're play in the Great Fruit League down to Florida,

470
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: teams that play in the Cactus League out to Arizona

471
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: and you play like that, right, then yes, it would

472
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: be easier because those teams already have their own little

473
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: mini compounds there. But moving other sports like the whole,

474
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: like the logistics, the the infrastructure, the doctors that they

475
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: have relationships with, all of this. I'm not even talking

476
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: about just the keeping people healthy and safe part, but

477
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: moving operations for teams to a different state for a

478
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: for an indefinite amount of time, like the costs associated

479
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: with that may not I mean, it's just outrageous. And

480
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: then the question is what do you do with people's families,

481
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: because like guess, the players may be able to play

482
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: and be sequestered and all that stuff down there, but

483
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: then what do you do with their families, Like their

484
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: families can't just move down there, because now you're you

485
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: have kids going to school, you got people going to work.

486
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: All this stuff that creates um hazards for you keeping

487
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: the players who some of them have underlying conditions safe,

488
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: some of the coaches, trainers, uh, people who mow the grass,

489
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: the equipment managers, all of this. So you have to

490
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: keep all of these people safe. And the more people

491
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: that you bring into that network, the higher chance for

492
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: something bad to go wrong, for something bad to happen.

493
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Is so like, while it may be easier for baseball

494
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: to do it, I think that when you look at

495
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: the pack twelve in it in itself or any of

496
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: the other sports, like, well, well not not not even

497
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: a pack twelve because you can't move freaking colleges, you

498
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, you can't like send all

499
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: the colleges down to Arizona and yeah we'll we'll just

500
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: practice and play down there there. It's not even feasible.

501
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: So I like, I get where the Arizona governor said

502
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: wanted to make a statement and just be bold out front,

503
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: But I think that's gonna give people a lot of

504
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: bad ideas coming up with over the next few weeks.

505
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: So let me let me pitch you on something. Because

506
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: there's the idea that the PAC twelve could only play

507
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: itself right, and the California schools might have to only

508
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: play road games, which than some of the road games

509
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: that have to be neutral site games because California teams

510
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: obviously play California teams. What if this happened instead because

511
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Stanford's a private institution and USC is a private institution.

512
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: What if the other four major conferences agreed to take

513
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: on the teams in the Pac twelve that were that

514
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: that planned on having college football this season while Cal

515
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, sits out, while um, yeah, I guess anybody

516
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: else who wants to sits out. What if the Big

517
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: twelve came and grabbed four teams and the SEC came

518
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: and grabbed two teams. Could you see that being a

519
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: potential one year solution? I guess yeah. I mean it's

520
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: it's one of those things to where if some people,

521
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: if you are a Pac twelve team not in California,

522
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: if you, I mean Oregon already said that there will

523
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: be no games in the state basically through sep September,

524
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: no sporting events, so you're looking at but they could

525
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: play away games or something. I don't even know if

526
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: they can go to practice. But if you are Washington, Arizona, Colorado, Arizona,

527
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: then and the California schools aren't in, then maybe that

528
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: the teams that fall off of people's schedules, Then maybe

529
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: I guess you could try to work it out that

530
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: that way. But but you gotta remember hotels of hotels

531
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: have already been reserved. There's there's a lot of stuff

532
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: that goes into moving a moving an entire sporting event,

533
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, yeah, I just you know, I'm

534
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: seeing people tweet stuff jokingly, like this dude, Parker Todd

535
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: sixteen on Twitter, who's who's seemed to have his tweets

536
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: seemed to have found its way into Pack twelve Twitter,

537
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: and his mentions are a mess. He says, well, a

538
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: college football season without the Pack twelve really be from

539
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: any other college football season. Um. I wanted to give

540
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: him the finger when I saw that. It's I mean,

541
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: there's people are pitching the idea of the Big twelve

542
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: taken out, taking on a couple of fusing the Mountain

543
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: West in the Pack twelve of minus the California schools.

544
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: Uh gosh, Um, I don't know, but for the most part,

545
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: it just looks like everybody's kind of mad at um

546
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: mad at California. Everybody's mad at California, including your boy

547
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: Rudy Carpenter. He was like, I'm glad I left, Like, bro,

548
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: like this is Tipperary, and I don't. I don't think

549
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: California is that mad either. I think that's a that's

550
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: one of those mutual conscious but the one Gwyneth Paltrow

551
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: and Chris Martin do the conscious uncoupling. Yeah, do we dude?

552
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: It's what one of those things that we're like. I mean,

553
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of like people where they look at Florida

554
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, dude, Florida, Florida and all this

555
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: wacko stuff always happened. Everybody looks at other states like, Okay,

556
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: let me let me know how that works out there.

557
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: Let me know how it works works out when your

558
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: skin is boiling all summer and you don't have an

559
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: ocean to go to, you know what I mean? Could

560
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: you see schools since if you're not having to play

561
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: in front of a crowd or whatever, could you see

562
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: schools like high schools like Bishop Gorman outside of Vegas

563
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: can maybe host a couple of games because there's no fans.

564
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: You just need a nice field, right, So, but I

565
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: don't see why not. I mean what do you think

566
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: is going to happen to all these high school football players?

567
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll come to Arizona? Do you know

568
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: what sucks like to be to to to go back

569
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: to the That Well, that goes to the next thing,

570
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: which is Clay Clay Travis. He tweeted about athletes that

571
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: they should leave California and leave the Pack twelve and

572
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: they should all transfer elsewhere to go play, and like,

573
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: for a smart guy, this is a stupid tweet because Okay, first,

574
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: first of all, there are scholarship limits. Pretty much everybody's

575
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: at capacity right now except for schools may have like

576
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: one or two scholarships left. But what about what about

577
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: high schoolers? Though, Well, that's that's what I was getting at.

578
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: So this summer is already kind of ruined for for

579
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: big camps like the Rivals camps, the the the Nike

580
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Spark Camps, the Adidas camp, all all those camps are

581
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: are Are they all done for the summer? I think? So.

582
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: I haven't received any communicate Our five Star challenges usually

583
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: in in mid June, and I haven't received any communication

584
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: on it. And we only had like three regional camps

585
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: before we canceled the whole thing. So I was out

586
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: the last time I was the last time I was out,

587
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: and about I was with you. I was out in California,

588
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: um on in March first, as when I drove back

589
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: from California to Arizona, and and it was it was,

590
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: I mean it was marching that evening of March first

591
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: when I told I told my wife that, like, hey,

592
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: I don't think things are gonna be the same from

593
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: here on out. All anybody was talking about at this

594
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: high school camp that I went to was this disease

595
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: in Asia. So um yeah, I know. So it's already

596
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: affected recruiting because there are because because kids they could

597
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: have taken some early trips already, right, kids are committing

598
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: site unseen, like they're taking virtual tours of these campuses,

599
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: and they are committing to schools they have never once

600
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: set foot on the campus though. And the other thing

601
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: is there is a ton of movement in this time period,

602
00:37:53,960 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: well from like that March until July August, there's a

603
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: ton of movement in recruiting rankings. Because those guys were

604
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: juniors last year, and yes they were evaluated, but they

605
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: weren't evaluated the same way as they they they would

606
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: have been this summer, right, right, So you're gonna have

607
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: kids that were that are four stars four stars that

608
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: would have gone to five or would have had other

609
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: kids who were three stars or two stars jump up

610
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: to four stars and passed them. So I think it's

611
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: going to put a premium. So I think that when

612
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: you see the class rankings at the end, that it's

613
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: going to be that they're not gonna be as accurate

614
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: as they usually are, and that you're gonna have that

615
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: this is where the coaches are gonna earn their money

616
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: and the coaches who just rely on the rankings are

617
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna get screwed. Yeah. Yeah. This was supposed to be

618
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: the week that Arizona I had all their showcases, which

619
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: you and I talked about on some of our early

620
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: versions of of this podcast. Was you know that hoping

621
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: that California would join suit in allowing the high schools

622
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: to get together on the same field. Um, this was

623
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: supposed to be that week where where every day six

624
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: or seven airs on high schools were all practicing, not

625
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: against each other, but on the same field so that

626
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: colleges could come out and see them. But all these

627
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: college coaches have been doing for the last two months

628
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: is watching film. We've seen more offers uh in the

629
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: spring than we've ever seen before. We've got schools like

630
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: New Mexico who didn't even have a single commitment, not

631
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: one single commitment UM for the class of up until

632
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, a month before signing day in they've already

633
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: got seven for this class. Um. You know, Nevada is

634
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: getting kids, uh, Utah States getting kids. It's it's it's

635
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: crazy right now because people are just you know, they're

636
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: trying to lock in a spot um and you might

637
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: see a lot of movement when some this stuff clears up,

638
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: of people being reevaluated and everything, but coaches are just

639
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: going crazy watching film and offering kids they've never met.

640
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: And that's why a what I've talked to two Pack

641
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: twelve coaches about this specifically, two coaches said he said,

642
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: if things open back up and there is a season,

643
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a bunch of kids who are committed

644
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: right now that they're gonna get dropped. That they're that

645
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna get dropped from big power five schools that

646
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: they committed to because that two or three star kid

647
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: that they hadn't seen. They figured out that they're better

648
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: than the kid that they got committed right now, and

649
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: that you know that they had it wrong. So you're

650
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: he said that they're gonna well, they both said that

651
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a bunch of kids getting dropped and

652
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: also you are going to see probably less decommitments because

653
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: kids are going to fill the instability and they're gonna

654
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: want to be like, nah no, let me, let me

655
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: just locked it, locked this in here because I don't

656
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: want this to go away. Very true. Um, Okay, So

657
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: now the Clay Travis tweet that athletes should leave the

658
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: pack twelve UM and California because they're not playing all

659
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: of this stuff, and I was like, that's silly because a,

660
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: there's only so many scholarships available everywhere one and the

661
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: second thing is this is a temporary situation. So the

662
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: idea that people should bail on the conference because uh,

663
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: California is not opening at this point in time while

664
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: other states are, it just it just felt foolish and

665
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: and and not very thoughtful. He is an interesting dude.

666
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: He you know, he one your percent believes in the

667
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: whole maxim that like if you are saying my name,

668
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: I am winning um and and if that's your philosophy,

669
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: If your philosophy is if you know who I am,

670
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: I have one UM, some of the most famous people

671
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: in the world have their notoriety through infamy, not actual fame. Right,

672
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: So a lot of people know who Clay Travis is

673
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: because they are super piste off about the crap that

674
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: he puts out there, and to him, he always chalks

675
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: that up as a wind. UM. I think that he's

676
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: actually a kind of an underrated, gifted writer. I think

677
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: that he is UM somebody who actually, when he's sharing

678
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: his perspective and not necessarily pandering to you know, a

679
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: populist that that that kind of eats up uh things

680
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: and feels like the media uh it isn't slanted towards

681
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: their point of view, so they act stively look for

682
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: people who are UM. If he wasn't doing those things,

683
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: and I think he could be doing some pretty cool stuff,

684
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: But he's a guy who I don't think believes very

685
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: much of what he says UM, and therefore it's really

686
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: hard for me to take that seriously because he's playing well.

687
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: I can't. I can speak to that because I did

688
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: a TV show with him on f S one that

689
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: was my introduction to him, and we've done a few

690
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: things too together professionally. And Clay is a very smart guy.

691
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: And I would agree with you that that he's a

692
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: talented writer because he used to be a lawyer. All

693
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: of these things makes makes fine arguments, all all of this,

694
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: but Clay. But but Clay has figured out too that

695
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: if you turn around and you yell to the crowd

696
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: about how bad the other people are or how stupid

697
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: the other people are, then you can rile those people up.

698
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: And that's one way that people have well, like especially

699
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: in social media age, been able to build huge followings

700
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: and loyal followings. Is when when you are polarizing, whether

701
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: you are uh, you know, Candice Owens, Jason Whitlock, Floyd Mayweather,

702
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: Clay who whoever, people tune in to be. They tune

703
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: in because they agree with you, and then they also

704
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: tune in because they they just despise what you say

705
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: and they want to fight you. And like you said,

706
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: like He's like if you if you're tuning in, then

707
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: he's winning despite the reason why you're tuning in. Perfect

708
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: other names as examples like Canadas Owns, Jason Whitlock. Those

709
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: are people who affirm a point of view um from

710
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: people who don't necessarily associate with the other side. Right, So,

711
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: like you know, Jason Whitlock is a black man in

712
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: sports who who calls out black men in sports, Right,

713
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: Candice Owen is a black woman in politics who calls

714
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: out black people. It just in culture in general. And

715
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: uh and and Clay Travis is a Democrat who calls

716
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: out Democrats. And people love that stuff. They love to

717
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: eat up anything that affirms whatever it was that they

718
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: believed in the first place, because then they could point

719
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: at that person and say, see, even they're saying it,

720
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: therefore what I feel can't be all that bad, and

721
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: so and and it is that just sort of thing

722
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: of like recognizing whatever sort of the populist mood is

723
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: out there and finding a way to ride that wave.

724
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: The question always comes down to sincerity, Right, are are

725
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: you being exploitative? Because we've seen it for for a

726
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: millennia with megachurch pastors, right who figured out the grift.

727
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: Once you if you figure out the grift, you can

728
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: sort of just live that life. And as long as

729
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're hurting anybody, then you can

730
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: you can roll with it. And Clay Travis for the

731
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: last two months and basically saying that we're overreacting to

732
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: this disease and moving the goalposts every fifteen seconds. You know,

733
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: we might have finally come to the point where what

734
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: he's doing isn't as harmless as it as it typically is.

735
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: It's because it's it's left the avenue of sports altogether

736
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: and has entered into public health. Which is there a

737
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: more important thing than public health? No? I mean, but

738
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: you know there is, Like it's turned, like I said,

739
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: it's turned into a political issue and all of that.

740
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: But now going down the recruiting path as it relates

741
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: to USC, Dante Williams who has been at Arizona, Nebraska, Oregon,

742
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: now USC, and I think I forgot somewhere else in between.

743
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: All in the last the state, Yeah, all in like

744
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: the last five years, UM, and he shown himself as

745
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: a phenomenal recruiter. The uh he sent out a tweet.

746
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: Ralph heard about the tweet. Ralph couldn't see the tweet

747
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: because Dante has Ralph blocked. I don't know anybody like

748
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: when when I go to people's pages, I never had

749
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: I am never blocked, like never, Like you're like, only

750
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: guy George Foster blocked me and I are you Sweaty Fridgewater,

751
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: he blocked you. You gotta get me, you gotta get

752
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: me unblocked because I love following him. Okay, I will,

753
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: I will, I will talk to George. I will, I

754
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: will send him a tweet like, Yo, why did you

755
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: block Ralph Amsden? He I think because I quote tweeted

756
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: that really awesome thing he did with Joe Burrow and

757
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: the cigar, and I quote tweeted it with a joke.

758
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: It was one of those jokes where it was like,

759
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: if you were following along with it, you're like, wait

760
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: a minute, this guy is actually mad at Joe Burrow

761
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: for smoking, and then when you got to the end

762
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: of the tweet, you're like, oh, he got me, Like

763
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: it was one of those so I feel like he

764
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: probably read the first five words of it and he

765
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: was like, screw this nerd, and he just because it

766
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: was I was I was making a joke and it

767
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: wasn't at George Foster's expense. It was anybody who gets

768
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: mad at college athletes for celebrating, and um, yeah, I

769
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: got myself blocked. And that was one of my favorite follows.

770
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: So you gotta help me out. I just sent him

771
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: a tweet, right right, I said, I said, I said, Yo, George,

772
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: why did why did you block my man, Ralph? Ralph Ampston?

773
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: He loves your tweets. He's sad. Thank you so much, dude.

774
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: How dude, you are blocked by three to four hundred

775
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: people is my estimation. The only only my baby Mama

776
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: has blocked me, that is it. But but but I

777
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: think I blocked her first. So like, aside from that,

778
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I never go to people's Twitter and they're like, uh nah,

779
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm off of George. I've never I don't feel

780
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: like I'm an intentional troll. I don't go out looking

781
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: for trouble, but sometimes I just step in it and

782
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: I gotta get you verified, Ralph. That I think that

783
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: that will stop the blocking. No, no, no, no no, because

784
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: because I think that that's people that they that they're like, oh,

785
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: this dude is just a troll because he's not verified,

786
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: So so he's black material. You know what I'm saying.

787
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling that's hotly after tonight. It's one less. But

788
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't care about Dante Williams if he wants to,

789
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: if he wants to be bitter because I told recruits, hey,

790
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: pay attention to these guys that bounce around like they're

791
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: not gonna be there all four years with you. Um

792
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: if he's mad about that, and that happened when he

793
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: went from Arizona, Nebraska whatever, Like, there's nothing I can do,

794
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: you know. I like to help these college coaches get

795
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: some of these kids, uh, if they're interested in them.

796
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: And and he obviously doesn't need the help because he's

797
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: one of the best recruiters I've ever seen. So you know,

798
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: he's good to have me blocked, I guess. Yeah, so

799
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: you have Dante Williams. He tweet He tweeted a video

800
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: well like, uh, I mean it's oh, it's literally a

801
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: minute and seventeen seconds. It's you know, views of California,

802
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: USC with the fight on Big Hollywood sign Welcome to

803
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: l A Take Back the West, you know what I mean,

804
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Like that a whole whole thing is just a propaganda video.

805
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean they got Snoop and Dr Dre and all

806
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: of these people like old fitted foote to them, you know,

807
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: just showing the l A brand. Yeah. So yeah, so

808
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,959
Speaker 1: it's a cool video. I mean, it's the video that

809
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: every other school makes about their thing about what's unique

810
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: and special about there's you know, they got old. They

811
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: got Matt Leiner on their The one person that they

812
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: should put on there but they can't is Reggie Bush.

813
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: But do you believe that he's had the big impact

814
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: on USC recruiting like people think that he was going

815
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, because because I mean last year still

816
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: fresh in my mind. Um, they got what nine four

817
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: star commits right now? Nine four star commits right now.

818
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: They're currently number four in the entire country according to rivals.

819
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: And again this is a really weird skewed year where

820
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Tennessee has twenty one verbal commitments already. But remember it's

821
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: USC being fourth in the country right now. They were

822
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: They finished sixty fourth last year with only two four

823
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: stars in the whole class. They have nine right now.

824
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: So I do think that at some level he has

825
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: made an impact. I think three or four of those

826
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: kids are there specifically because of him. I think Clay Hilton,

827
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: I can't say saved his job with this one, but

828
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that he made the fire, um not as

829
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: hot under his feet. Uh, let's see, I don't know

830
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: about that only all right, So a look, because you

831
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: were like me reading Mike Bones mentions today, every everybody

832
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: still pissed at clay Elton. Yes, so since Dante Williams

833
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: got there, they've got They got a flip from Oregon

834
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: Anthony Beavers, which I do think was directly related to

835
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: Dante Williams. They signed quick quick well to commit from

836
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: Texas wid wide receiver Cordarius Davis, Julian Simon, an athlete

837
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: from Washington. UM. Yeah. But aside from that, oh and

838
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: then the another kid from Mirror who has committed since

839
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: he's been there. Aside from that, all the rest of

840
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: the commits were already there or their three stars. So

841
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I do believe that there has

842
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: been some impact, But I mean this is USC, like

843
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: like a blind monkey could could could recruit there. So

844
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean, so that showed the Clay Helton failures. So

845
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: where this class actually ends up, I think it'll end

846
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: up in the mid teens probably UM, and you're gonna

847
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: have Washington and Oregon kind of fighting for that one spot,

848
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: I think, and USC will finish probably third in the class,

849
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: I think because because Washington has a ton of of

850
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: big time recruits in the UM in in the player rankings.

851
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: They got you know, the the kid t J Tim Tim.

852
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna try to say his name and who

853
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: him allow Allow or whatever? That kid is incredible, Yeah,

854
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: and that is so good that I'm gonna have to

855
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: learn how to pronounce his name. Yeah. And then they

856
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: got the Uh. I'm I'm gonna call him UH double

857
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from UH from Washington as well, sam Hewart,

858
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: who got moved up to a five star, which leap

859
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: frog Jake Garcia spot essentially. So you're gonna have Washington

860
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: and Oregon fly up the recruiting rankings and and I

861
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: think one and especially once I mean Alabama's ranked in

862
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: the thirties right now, you got Georgia not ranked very

863
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: high either, and they're gonna fly up to number two

864
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: and number three probably pretty quickly as well. So you

865
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: know that. That's why I think that USC is gonna

866
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: finish in the teens probably and right alongside Washington and Oregon,

867
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: who could be like right around the top ten. Um. Well,

868
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: now I think, like, what would you do? Because I

869
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: really feel like this class is gonna be huge for USC,

870
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like a lot of it's gonna have

871
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: to do with Dante Williams. How tempted are you if

872
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: you're Dante Williams, like Clay Helton comes and tells you

873
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: something and and and would you even be trying to

874
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: hear it? Like or would it just be in the

875
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: back of your mind? Like, man, you're lucky. I'm here.

876
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: Oh of course you of course, dude, this dude, you

877
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: better be saying please and thank you and sir when

878
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: you address me. Yeah, like excuse me, Clay, you want

879
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: me to do what? No? No, I'm over here, I'm

880
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: making phone calls to recruits right right now. I'm busy.

881
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Yeah, I mean it.

882
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: I think that that this recruiting season, granted, the coronavirus

883
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: is throwing everything off, and I think that you're gonna

884
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: have skewed. I mean, so, like Clay Helton, there's no

885
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: chance he gets fired, no chance he gets he gets

886
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: fired again, I think, I mean, especially if they don't

887
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: play any foot football games, you can't fire. But I

888
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: do think that this recruiting class, though, is it's going

889
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: to be better just because you can't screw it up

890
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: two years in a row at USC, because they have

891
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: more scholarships available than they had last year where they

892
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: only had the teams. Yeah, it's going to be better.

893
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: Like it's one of those things like it could not

894
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: they could not repeat the same thing with a full

895
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: class of twenty five kids. Like if they had had

896
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: a full class last year, they wouldn't have been in

897
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: the sixties, would have been in the in the thirties,

898
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: even if they only signed all three star kids. You know, yeah,

899
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, there's still it's still impressive knowing

900
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: that everybody's getting commits, um, just out of I don't know,

901
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: kids are committing out of boredom. Everybody was set wanting

902
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: to celebrate Mother's Day the same way this year, and

903
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: so but you you still have them up there in

904
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: those rankings considering everybody's getting committed. So I don't know,

905
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, but then, like you said, maybe some

906
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: of these guys that they're getting aren't as high um

907
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: as they should be, or or are too high um.

908
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: The evaluations are going to be all thrown off. So

909
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: it really kind of remains to be seen what the

910
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: impact of this class is. You know, if there's no

911
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: high school football season, god forbid, how are you gonna

912
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: evaluate any of these kids? You're gonna be doing off

913
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: of their junior film, are off of one seven on

914
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: seven performance exactly so. So when so when you mentioned

915
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: the high school recruiting earlier, I feel bad for these

916
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: kids too. I feel bad for the kids who didn't

917
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: have a ton of offers already, who just made who

918
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: worked their ass off and got better. And we're gonna

919
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: make huge leaps and get to two different opportunities, and

920
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some kids who do not get offers,

921
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: who are gonna end up at j C's and then

922
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna play well there, and then some of them

923
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: are just gonna quit because they're they're they're they're discouraged.

924
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: People tell them, see, I told you there was nothing there.

925
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: Then the coronavirus threw threw you off. Dude. This is

926
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: a horrible time for like guys who ended up unsigned

927
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: initially after National Signing Day, who would have you know,

928
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: been able to find a home because like no prom,

929
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: no graduate wation, no card to find a school like

930
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: this is a mess, dude. This is a very trying

931
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: time for some some some kids, especially if there's no

932
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: high school football, Like, what the hell do you do

933
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: with these kids who would be coming in. It is

934
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: a disaster, and I am happy that my kid is

935
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: just gonna be a freshman. And like, because I don't know, bro,

936
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: I do not know no high school football, online school.

937
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: These kids are these kids are gonna be going pro

938
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: and E sports. That's what's gonna happen. Like, this is

939
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna be the greatest crop of E sports recruits in

940
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: the history of E sports recruiting. Hey, I am not

941
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: mad at that, buddy, I am not mad at that.

942
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: Um So you had Kyle Whittingham. He said that he

943
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: is okay, was playing an all packed wealth schedule eleven games,

944
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: all packed twelve and also that he wants his players

945
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: back ACEP that schools and states that are ready to

946
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: be open, that those kids should be ready to open

947
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: and the kids should be back even if the other

948
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: states aren't to two separate comments, what do you think

949
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: about them? I saw a couple of people over reacting

950
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: in the mentions and that stood out more to me

951
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: than his comments. What do you think, George? You think,

952
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: because here's the thing with college coaches. They care so

953
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: much about fairness. They I mean, to the point where

954
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: it's just annoying, to the point where if if their

955
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: house was on fire and you had to college coaches

956
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: living together and one of them got handed a fire

957
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: extinguisher that had more in it than another coach, they

958
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: get in an argument and let the whole house burn down.

959
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: So like they just have this just obsession with put

960
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: us on even playing field, because that's that's when I

961
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: can show that I'm better than you. Right with all

962
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: other things being equal, that's when I can show that

963
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm the better coach. And so you know they're not.

964
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that he wants to wait around for

965
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: California to reopen to get access to his kids. Um,

966
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: And I think that that's just on brand. And I

967
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: think that the California coaches will be pissed if Utah

968
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: gets access to their kids. I think I think college

969
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: coaches are still grinding their teeth at night that A

970
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: s you got three spring practices in oh for sure,

971
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: for sure that we're in a worldwide pandemic with unemployment

972
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: and there I need my three practices. Yeah, they're like

973
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: herm or not be able to They better make herm

974
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: wait three days. And that's what's on their mind. Like

975
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: that's what Jimmy Lake's thinking about when he goes to bed.

976
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: It's like, I can't believe HERM got three more practices

977
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: to me and I don't. I'm not even joking. This

978
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: isn't that's the difference. Yeah, and you you you hit

979
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: the nail on the head, Ralph, you hit it on

980
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: the head and you just drilled that thing in first

981
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: first smack. That is the way college coaches think. Um,

982
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: but the all pack twelve schedule eleven games old school,

983
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: everybody plays everybody big twelve style. If if the conference

984
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: has to only play itself, then obviously that's the only

985
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: way it should be done. I think. I think that's

986
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: just So here's the area where you're like college coaches,

987
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: because you've always said that you want to pack twelve

988
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: to be on the level of everybody else as far

989
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: as the number of conference games that you have to play.

990
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: And that to why the idea that them having to

991
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: play eleven, they'm having to play eleven games all against

992
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: each other made me laugh so hard because you've been

993
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: banging the drum of like make everyone play nine or

994
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: let the Pack twelve go down to eight forever, And

995
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: so I had to tag you on that tweeter, like

996
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: all right, George, what about eleven because it's and And

997
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: then the idea that not only not only could the

998
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: Pac twelve only play itself, the Pack twelve could potentially

999
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: play their games at a different time than everybody else,

1000
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, like everybody else's going through the college football

1001
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: season as as scheduled. Then after the bull season, you

1002
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: get six more months of football with the PAC twelve

1003
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: just deciding to be the to take the place of

1004
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: the might actually be good for the conference. It would

1005
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: be the one How crazy would it be if the

1006
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: one thing that that could work for the Pack twelve

1007
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: to get more eyeballs happens because of a worldwide disease

1008
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: that nothing, nothing but work. Yeah that that, Yeah, they

1009
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: were talking about nine am and having to kick off

1010
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: at at one o'clock Eastern in the morning or whatever

1011
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: else they're doing, or get private equity investors. If the

1012
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: if the if COVID nineteen knocks the Pack twelve into

1013
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: a spring schedule, now that there's no more a F

1014
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: no more XFL, and then all of a sudden, the

1015
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: only thing you can do is watch Pack twelve, but

1016
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: they don't get to participate in the playoff. Like that

1017
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: could save Larry Scott's that could save his skin. Like,

1018
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is absurd, but it would

1019
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: be really funny if the one thing that they were

1020
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: always hoping for, which is to get some exclusivity, um,

1021
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: happened because the XFL and a F were not sustainable

1022
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: and the Pack twelve was forced to play in in

1023
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: the spring. Oh but but then you know what the

1024
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: conversation would be, Oh, man, these these teams are good.

1025
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: They will be pumping them up. But then they'd be like, yeah,

1026
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: but they couldn't hang with Alabama. They couldn't hang with Auburn,

1027
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: they couldn't Like that would be the thing. Well, they're

1028
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: only playing playing each other, that's what That's what they

1029
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: would say. But um, the oh, Larry Scott, your boy,

1030
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: Larry Larry Scott, you got, you got Larry Scott, you

1031
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: got Khalil take, you got Jacob Easton. So those are

1032
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: those are your boys, Ralph, that's my people that show me,

1033
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: show me your friends. I'll show you your future, that's

1034
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: what you're saying. So Larry Scott went on Dan Patrick

1035
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: and you got a chance to check out some of

1036
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: the highlights of that, and one of the things was defected.

1037
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: He said the conference has access, well, he has access

1038
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: to the same doctors and information at the White House does,

1039
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: which I've been preaching for a while that these colleges.

1040
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: Remember when Washington shut down, people are like, oh, this's

1041
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: a bad idea. I was like, no, these people have

1042
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: access to some of the best epidemiologists in the world

1043
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: like Washington and has access to Bill Gates and all,

1044
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: despite the stupid conspiracy theories. But um, yeah, So I

1045
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: screen recorded him. I screen recorded him saying that some

1046
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: of the best epidemiologists, infectious disease experts, they work at

1047
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: these pack two schools. They're professors, And he said that

1048
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: he's spending more time with them than he is with

1049
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: coaches and athletic directors and university presidents. So he's he's

1050
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: been staying abreast on all of these things. And then

1051
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: he said that they're the same. These are the same

1052
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: some of the same doctors that actually have the ear

1053
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: of the White House or that are on UH commissions

1054
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: to to be able to to speak into Congress and

1055
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: the White House on going on, right, So, so I

1056
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: tweeted that PAC twelve Commissioner Larry Scott just told Dan

1057
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: Patricks the university doctors and researchers advising the conference on

1058
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: what to do this season are some of the same

1059
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: people that advised in the White House. And I think

1060
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: people are so used to me bashing Larry Scott that

1061
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: all of the replies to that tweet we're like, oh, well,

1062
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, um, of course these are the doctors that

1063
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: are advising the White House. Of course they'd be advising

1064
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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve too. Someone said, how does he still

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: have a job? Is he going to listen to them

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01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: or just ignore them like the White Houses? So there

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01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: was no positivity that came out of this. I thought

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01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: it was just a newsworthy thing. There's all these great

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01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: universities in the PAC twelve to have all these brilliant minds,

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01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: and he has access to them, I guess because because

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01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: people believe that Larry Scott will find a way to

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: to find defeat and snatch it from the jaws of

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01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: victory and then so so then I think I proved

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01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: people right because I couldn't help myself. Twenty minutes later,

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01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: I tweeted a clip of of Dan Patrick making fun

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01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: of his man cave. Because the it was a video

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: and audio interview He's making fun of his man cave,

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01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: and Larry Scott said that he lost most of his

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: man cave to his three teenagers using it as a

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01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: PlayStation room. And I said, if you can't negotiate your

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01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: own space in your own house, direct TV was never

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: an option. So that, like I guess, I guess that

1083
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: like there's a there's a reason that people aren't taking

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01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: me seriously when I try to tweet a serious thing

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01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: about Larry Scott and I and I can't take him

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: that seriously either. But he I don't feel like he

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01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,879
Speaker 1: said anything embarrassing. I don't feel like he did anything

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01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: ridiculous in this interview. I thought it was good. He

1089
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: just told basically, he reiterated Dan Patrick that it's gonna

1090
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: be really hard to have student athletes on campus if

1091
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: there's no students on campus, and that they're just listening

1092
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: and playing the Weight and Sea game. And again, it's

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01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: a member driven organization, and I we talked about earlier

1094
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: in the podcast that member driven organizations cannot by definition lead.

1095
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: They cannot lead because they are governed by all of

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01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: the presidents together, who are beholden to all of their donors,

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01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: who are you know, beholden to whatever their interests star

1098
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: and so you know he's not going to come out

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: and and common deer the situation and say no, we're

1100
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: definitely having football because one, it's not up to him,

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01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: and too, he's part of an organization where he's unable

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: to make any decisions in the first place. So I

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01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: don't expect Larry Scott's an interesting guy to hear from

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: right now, but it doesn't mean anything because he can't

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: do anything. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And and if he

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: could do something, he might. We know that. We know

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,440
Speaker 1: that Larry Scott. I mean, he just is always consistently

1108
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: waiting on somebody else to make a decision to to

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01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: do it. And listen, if you are a Pack to

1110
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: a fan right now, you cannot be necessarily happy because

1111
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,560
Speaker 1: people are roasting the Pack towel on Twitter and I

1112
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't are It's been a it's

1113
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: been a rough day for the Pack to It's been

1114
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: a rough day in general. Like we were talking about,

1115
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: this feels like a March day, like one like March eleventh,

1116
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert, Tom Hanks Day. If you're a Pack twelve

1117
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: football fan, this day very much feels like one of

1118
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: those days. Oh yeah, this is just a so dude.

1119
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully tomorrow is calmer. Um. But now now it is time.

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01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: You did a phenomenal job reading this to me earlier

1121
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: because we got a piece of fan email, and so

1122
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: I will let you read it again to the people.

1123
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: If you guys want to reach out to us, I'm mad.

1124
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: I am am a d at Unafraid show dot com

1125
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: and send us an email. We always put them on

1126
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: when when you guys send them to us. So yeah,

1127
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: so take it away, Mr Amston. This is from Soul

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: cal Soul s e O U l like Soul South Korea. Um,

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01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: that's a cool email. I liked it, so I'm gonna

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: ahead and read it for you. Pack twelve apostles. Before

1131
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: I turned to my I'm mad rand I wanted to

1132
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,839
Speaker 1: thank you both for the podcast. I found this podcast

1133
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: while driving to work starting in June of last year.

1134
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: I work as a firefighter in San Luis Obispo, and

1135
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: I drive from Corona. Not the virus. This podcast kept

1136
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: me entertained and more importantly, awake as I leave my

1137
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: house at every Friday and return home Monday. Awesome job

1138
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: you both do. The sound is great and the witty

1139
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: banter is always fun. Now let's get to it. I

1140
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: am a golden bear, and I have been since two

1141
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: thousand three. I've waited my turn over and over and

1142
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: found little success since our almost Rose Bowl in two

1143
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: thousand four. This is, or should I say, was going

1144
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: to be Cal's year eleven and two or tending to

1145
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: eleven and one or tending to were possible, and the

1146
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl was in our reach. Chase Garber's made huge leaps,

1147
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: far more than I thought he was going to last year,

1148
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: and the time and now was the time to show it.

1149
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: Polk and Remigio and a now healthy Crawford have a

1150
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: lot of steam coming into the season. Our defense should

1151
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: be stout once more, even though finding a replacement for

1152
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: Weaver won't be easy, and the new additions to our

1153
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff should help. Don't get he started on what

1154
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: a garbage coach Bowl Bobwin was. That guy had one

1155
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: good game and that was last year's bowl. Anyway, all

1156
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: was set for our time back in the national conversation. However,

1157
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: enter the coronavirus. This football season will likely be canceled.

1158
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: As the governor already declared no large gatherings and the

1159
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: UC is making statements of continuing online classes. It's sad

1160
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: to say our chances are gone to see anyone play.

1161
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm calling this the lost year. With Cow players and

1162
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: everyone not practicing, no coaching, and no time for incoming

1163
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: recruits to learn a system of any kind, our season

1164
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: to showcase and win will dwindle and disappear. My family

1165
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: has a saying for cal we are all califil fans,

1166
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: by the way, and it goes quote typical, it is

1167
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: typical that this would happen to Cal. It would never

1168
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: happen during a year we suck and are a bottom feeder,

1169
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: but of course would happen when we are rising to

1170
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: the top. All in all, I have yet to fully

1171
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: show my I'm mad due to I believe in proper

1172
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: introductions between people. So George and Ralph, thank you for

1173
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: the work you do. Show more love to CAW and

1174
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: you'll be hearing from me again soon. From soul Cat,

1175
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: that was that? Wasn't that? That made like the first

1176
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: mindset of this would never happen to cow if oh yeah,

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 1: it'd be like, yeah, no, everything's fine. So when we

1178
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: do our projections, because I think I think we still

1179
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: should do the projections. Um, maybe on the next episode

1180
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: if I mean, just for the strength of like it's fun,

1181
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 1: it's fun to do it. And I actually have cow

1182
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't have them at ten and two, but I

1183
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: do have them at nine and three with the potential

1184
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: to go eleven and one. I do have them with

1185
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: the potential to go eleven and one optimally, because I

1186
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: don't think it. I don't think that they're gonna be

1187
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: the Oregon I don't, um. And I had them with

1188
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 1: their two lost with their three losses to Washington State

1189
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: because I think they play at Pullman and that's just

1190
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: weird at at times. And in Arizona State, Um, I

1191
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: don't think they'll lose both of those games. But yeah,

1192
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: so Tennant Tennant too, I guess is a legitimate shot.

1193
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: But rose Ball, I think it's gonna be tough in

1194
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: the North because Washington is going to be a dog

1195
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: fight as well. Um. But I love the fact though

1196
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: that cal fans feel like that this is just cursed

1197
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: for them. I mean, I mean so many other fan

1198
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: bases feel like that, you know, just in Generator, like,

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01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: oh well, it was our time to shine, so of

1200
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: course things go wrong, of course, right, I don't know.

1201
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: I I'm looking at this schedule and I'm just like

1202
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: zero and zero because they're not gonna get to play

1203
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: the games comes you know, I don't know. I think

1204
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: that uh, I don't know. I think they had a

1205
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: really good chance to have a good year. I think

1206
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: eight and four would have been very feasible. Um, it

1207
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: would have been really interesting to see TC you come

1208
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: and visit. Um they I thought we're gonna be the

1209
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: first team to be able to play in the new

1210
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: stadium in Vegas. But uh, but um, the Raiders shut

1211
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: UNLV down. Did you see that? So they're making them

1212
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: play in SANDBOYD Stadium despite the whole thing about them,

1213
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, supposedly they were supposed to share, and now

1214
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders are like, hell though, So they're like, we're

1215
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: not putting your your your, your little bitty team in

1216
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 1: our new, nice, big, bright, shiny field and potentially messing

1217
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: up some saturdays that we can put a concert in

1218
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: because because it's not like you and LV is gonna

1219
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: sell that thing out, like, uh yeah, let's have a

1220
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift concert in stead. But assuming everything clears up

1221
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: and they do get to play, I think that cow's

1222
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: got a seven and five year. Um, I think that.

1223
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: I think it will be seven and five year. I

1224
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: think they just have kind of a weird schedule. You know,

1225
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 1: they have to play at POLM, and they have to

1226
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: play at the Coliseum, and then some of their home

1227
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: games are really tough with Washington and Oregon. So, um, yeah,

1228
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: they gotta go to l A twice assuming games are

1229
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: allowed to be played. H and that that'll even even

1230
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: playing at Oregon State's gonna be gonna be So they

1231
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: have a tough schedule, but they are a good team,

1232
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: and I would not be surprised at seven and five

1233
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: or eight four, But that's where I think kind of

1234
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be. So maybe there'll be a better eight

1235
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: four than anybody else. I got him in ninety three. Broh.

1236
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: I just think that you are still not a believer

1237
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: in Chase garbage like you need to be yet, dude,

1238
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: it's just time to hop on the train. Um. But yeah,

1239
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: we we already covered the part of his email about

1240
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: the u c S making statements about online classes. That's

1241
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, obviously. Um what else? Yeah, that that

1242
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: they've waited their their their turn and it's over. But yes, well,

1243
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: but thank you for your email. We really appreciated. Um. Yeah,

1244
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: and so the next time, I mean hopefully that you

1245
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: are safe and healthy is the firefighter in San Louis Obispo,

1246
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, and that we can keep you awake on

1247
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: this drive because this because the last episode was a

1248
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: mega episode and this is a regular episode. I guess

1249
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: we're just in our we're just in our feelings. We're

1250
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: we're trying to work through this like everybody else. Yeah,

1251
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: and we are here for you. This is the Pack twelve.

1252
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: This is the conference that we care about. That we

1253
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: talk about the good, the bad, the ugly. That's for

1254
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: me and Ralph are here to do and we appreciate

1255
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: your time, We appreciate your energy. Thank you guys for

1256
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: listening to the Pack, to our apostles. Make sure that

1257
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: you share the podcast with a friend and tell a friend. Actually,

1258
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: don't share with one friends, share with two, three or

1259
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: four friends. Send us an email two. I'm mad at

1260
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: Unafraid show dot com. He's at Ralph Ampston on Twitter.

1261
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm at George Rice Stir and you can follow at

1262
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: Pack twelve apostles on Twitter as well. Uh, peace out,

1263
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: catch you guys next episode