1 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daley brought to 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: you by Ballely Bet. Coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts Bow Bishop and 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Alright, let's do a live on a Tuesday 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: edition to Cleveland. Browns Danley brought you by Ballely Beck, 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty esp in Cleveland. 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: I am merely Bow. He is the great GiB A 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: and he is the great Z. How you doing, Buddy? 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Doing well? Brother? How are you today? I'm doing real well. 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I have to take umbrage with Gibe's 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: rundown right away because the one first bullet point I 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: see is NFL network insider Tom Pellicero reporting the deal 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: on Josh Dobbs back to Home. He's back here. Sure, um, 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: I believe we reported that last week here on the program, Gibbe. 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: I mean didn't we have the see I mean we 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily I would. I don't know about report, but 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: I will back you and I will say then we 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: certainly because we're a team. It's judge similar up judge 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: only once let's speak easy, okay, fine, minimal corruption, Nana 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: would say, first time bitten by snake, second time for 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: the lizards. So I'm watching, I'm watching. Yeah, we know, 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: we did talk about it. Seemed to make sense that 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs would be a logical guy. And then the 25 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: other name that's in the news for the Browns, Marquise Goodwin, 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: is somebody if you were maybe that was two weeks ago, 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: even Yeah, we mentioned Marquise Goodwin on this program as 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: a potential speed receiver for the Cleveland Browns, and and 29 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: he will. He's not as much of the horizontal threat 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: that mcole Hartman is, but he is a better deep 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: threat than McCole Harman is in terms of being a 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: route runner as a wide receiver. So that could ultimate 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: be the direction they go. I don't think he's as complete, 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: but if they're looking for a one trick pony, he's 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: a very he's very good at his one trick. But yeah, 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: if you pay atens in the scores, bros all here 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: for you get it? You get all? Do you want? Man? Yeah? 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: The m I don't know. I don't think that. So 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: Goodwin's thirty two, he'll be thirty three next season. I 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: think he would be I don't know. You could correct, 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: and you will if I'm wrong on this. I don't 42 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: know that he would preclude anything else from happening. In fact, 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: I think that he would be insurance. Put it this way, 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the Browns are in a position now where it feels 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: like pick forty two is going to go one of 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: two ways, at least in my mind, in my mind 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: right now, which would be defensive line and probably more 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: likely than not edge at forty two if they were 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: don't trade out of it. I think it's probably very 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: likely they trade out of it as well. And then 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: the other way they could go would be wide receiver. 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: And I do think that even if you were to 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: get a Marquise Goodwin, that does not preclude you from 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: drafting or even a Mcole Hardman, that does not preclude 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: you in any way, shape or form from drafting somebody 56 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: at forty two that you think can be somebody of consequence. 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: The reality of the situation is number one a weapons. 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: As you say, all every day weapons, weapons, give me 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: all of them. Let's go Goodwin, Hardman and somebody at 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: forty two. Fine, all the weapons, but the reality is 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: we have to be it. Let's say it is good. 62 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: When you mentioned he's thirty two, you know Amari is 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: at certainly eas either at the apex or he's on 64 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the bounding side of his apex right, and he's elite, 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: but you've got to have some succession planning in place. 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Donovan People's Jones last year earned one of the biggest 67 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: performance bonuses in the NFL, over seven hundred thousand dollars, 68 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: and it was well deserved. That also bumped his salary 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: up this year to nearly three million dollars, even though 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: he was a six round pick because he played so 71 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: well a year ago, and then he's gonna be in 72 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: the last year of his rookie deal this year. So 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: you have extending Donovan People's Jones decisions on Amari Cooper 74 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: at twenty million dollars. That doesn't even matter if you 75 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: sign a hardman, sign a Marky's Goodwin. Do you need 76 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: to have, I think a young talent that's on a 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: rookie deal ready to play snaps of consequence on this 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: football team anyway you look at it. So forty two 79 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean people can say, hey, that's gonna 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: be David belt's gonna be David Bell. That's fine, and 81 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: I would love to see David Bell take a massive 82 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: step forward. I still think David Bell's ceiling in this 83 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: league is like a possession E slot receiver. Yeah, not 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: somebody that it would be game planned against per se. Yeah, 85 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: I agree. That's I mean, as you just outlined it there. 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: That's that's why you know we say weapons, weapons all 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: the time, like they got to get some bodies in 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: that stable because I mean, Amari will be twenty nine 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: this June. So that's that's just the reality of it. 90 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: There needs to be some young weapons in the mix here, 91 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: and whether that's in trade, I mean, you have you 92 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: have two things you're doing. It's a two pronged attack. 93 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: Number One, you need a weapon right now they can 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: take at the top off the top of the defense, 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: or and or someone who can stretch a defense and 96 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: stress a defense horizontally. We keep coming back to hardman 97 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: everyone who have that type of ability obviously as well, 98 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: but you also need an up and comer in that room. Yes, 99 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: in a big way, like somebody who's got an NFL 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: future that can eventually become a one, A a one 101 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: whatever like that needs to be there, you need a 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: dynamic playmaker because quite frankly, that's what the rest of 103 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: the teams that you're competing against have or are drafting 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: to have. Look what Kansas City did last year in 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: their draft. They lost Tyree Hill. Now they always still 106 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: had Kelsey, and that's obviously a pretty good thing to have. 107 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: But if you just go look at what they did 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: in the draft from a weapon standpoint, they attacked it 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: every way you could. Yep, that's what you have to 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: do offensively and defensively a premium coression. That's exactly what 111 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: they did. And you know you're able to do that 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: when you have that star quarterback that kind of makes 113 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: everything the some of the parts, you know, great, the 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: whole greater than the some of the parts, which is 115 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: certainly what they've gotten Patrick Mahomes and what the Cleveland 116 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: Browns are definitely hoping that they've got in Deshaun Watson. 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: So as you look at kind of Marquise Goodwin, you 118 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: look at his stats for his career, you know he 119 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: is somebody that is a proven vertical threat. Put as 120 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: you pointed out, has been League since since two and thirteen. 121 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he is a speedy guy. You know, two 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: years ago sixteen yards a catch, last year over fourteen 123 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns four Seattle played a nice role and 124 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: actually had some nice games with the Seattle Seahawks a 125 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: year ago with Geno Smith as a part of kind 126 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: of you know, his resurrection. But you look at his 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: yards per catch the last five seasons, seventeen point two, 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: seventeen point two, fifteen point five, fifteen point seven, fourteen 129 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: point three, first career at sixteen point two. This is 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: somebody that knows how to make big plays. And we've 131 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: got you know, I think Donaond Peoples Jones has proven 132 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: you knows how to make a good play. So does 133 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Amari but just again slightly different, smaller five nine and 134 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: a guy that can fly. But to your point, you know, 135 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: you look at forty two, and so when I think 136 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: of pick forty two, and I'm going to kind of 137 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: take this from a step back and even let's think 138 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: about it like we're Andrew Barry and Paul de Podesta 139 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski. There are two there are three positions. 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Take because we don't need a quarterback. There are three positions. 141 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: And I don't believe we're I don't think we're spending 142 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: forty two on a left tackle, so we can take 143 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: that out. Yep. There are three possible positions that you 144 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: could spend this pick on. And the reason that I 145 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: say these are the three possible positions we're going to 146 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: get into money in a second, so wide receiver and 147 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: then defensive line, both positions. Now, the likelihood of finding 148 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: a stud pass rushing defensive tackle at forty two, given 149 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: that that's what everybody looks like, probably seems slim. But listen, 150 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: the great players slipped through the draft all the time. Yep. 151 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: This is a very very deep edge class. Do you 152 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: believe that Alex Wright is the long term solution. Do 153 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: you believe that Obo Okaranquo is a long term solution? 154 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: And maybe he is, but he's down the road a 155 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: little bit in his career. If you hit at forty 156 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: two on one of those three positions, we'll call it 157 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: pass rushing defensive tackle, an edge an edge rusher, a 158 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: double digit SAT guy, or a playmaking wide receiver, you are, 159 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: for three years, four years, getting somebody who was going 160 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: to command on the open market twenty million dollars plus 161 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: a year on a rookie contract. So the net gain 162 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: to your organization with your premium pick at forty two 163 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: is maximized by drafting at those positions and hoping that 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: you hit me. And even if it's a pretty good 165 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: player at that position, it's still a significant cap savings. 166 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: That's not really true anywhere else. Tackle would be the 167 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: other one at quarterback, but we have a quarterback. Ye. 168 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: So that's to me where it makes the most sense 169 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: that that's where our first pick would ultimately end up going. 170 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: And if you were to look at their track record 171 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: so far, their quote unquote premium picks have gone to tackle. 172 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: Cornerback has been the first pick taken in two of 173 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: their drafts, and tackle was the other yep. So it 174 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: just feels like that's where that this thing has to go. 175 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: And you look at this receiver class. There are guys 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: people like Jalen Hyatt from Tennessee, Scott from Cincinnati, Downs 177 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: from North Carolina, who somebody I think is more intriguing 178 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: as this process goes on. But that's where I think 179 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: it's going to have to live in one of those spots. 180 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: And to your point, in terms of acquiring weapons, accumulating 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: weapons and rounding this football team out and building not 182 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: only for this year because your window is now, as 183 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: you pointed out, but next year and trying to figure 184 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: out how you can stay in that window. I think 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: getting a premium pass catcher is important, which is why 186 00:09:53,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: there's talk of forty two and something for a Jerry Judy. Yes, yeah, 187 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, you're a I think you're at 188 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: a position as we sit right now. You put on 189 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: that hat of those guys and you say, if the 190 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: draft happens tomorrow, uh, you're in a position if you 191 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: don't trade out of forty two. If that doesn't happen, 192 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: then it's you take the best. You're not going to 193 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: take a corner. You have a ton of guys at 194 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: that position, but but you're you're taking the best available 195 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver or defensive end in that spot. That's that 196 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: to me feels like the layup that has to happen, um, 197 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: and then you need to hit on it um in 198 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: a very big way. UM. But you do need to 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: have some succession planning UM at both of those positions 200 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: and some you know, ancillary help at those positions to 201 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: come in right away and be effective. That's that's necessary, 202 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: man um. So that's that's kind of where you're at. 203 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: And to your point, I don't think that they will 204 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: be you know, cornered in or boxed in with either. 205 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: I think you could pick whichever one fits best. Whoever, 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: whoever you have graded higher of those two positions at 207 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: forty two, you just take them, provided you don't trade it. 208 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I would be a big fan of a Jerry Judy trade. 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: I think there's high value in something like that, and 210 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay him sooner rather than later. 211 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: Of course, well that would be if to me to 212 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: that point, if you go with Jerry Judy, what you're 213 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: saying is we're going to run out one year of 214 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper or Jerry Judy and Donovan People's Jones and 215 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: then and then next year. That would probably mean this 216 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: is the last season of Amari Cooper with the Cleveland Browns. 217 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: But you would have gotten hopefully, you know, two great 218 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: years out of him. But that's I think that's what 219 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: that would mean. And you would reallocate that money into 220 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy and so on and so forth. But go on, 221 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right, no that, but I I 222 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: just that's what I'm for. I just that's the point 223 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: I was making is if if you could find a 224 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: way to do that deal A player and forty two 225 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: for Judy. Now, all their reporting has been A one 226 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: is the jumping off point for Denver, but it doesn't 227 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: appear that there are any takers for that one, which 228 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: is probably how it got leaked out. So a two 229 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: and a player for Judy signed me up for you'd 230 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: be getting a tremendous value. As I mentioned at the 231 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: pay him and potentially would mean the end of Amari Cooper. 232 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: But you're getting a guy who's what twenty four ye 233 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: who was four, who was a high, high ceiling prospect 234 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: and has delivered at a high rate without having outstanding 235 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: quarterback play. So to me, that feels like a home run, Like, 236 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: give me that guy, because what you need is you're 237 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: gonna have. You're in the Deshaun Watson business for now 238 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: and for the next decade. You have to con this 239 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: is going to be the task of Andrew Berry, Kevin Stefanski, 240 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: Paul Dipodesta, everyone who's kind of orchestrating this over the 241 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: next ten years of Deshaun Watson's career. You have got 242 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: to continually put weapons around him so that the exact 243 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: same thing that Joe Burrow said about Cincinnati last season. 244 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: He said, the championship window is my career. The championship window, 245 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback of this nature, is their career, 246 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: and it is your job to consistently put enough weapons 247 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: around them so that he can go to war against 248 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: guys like Burrow and mahomes in Herbert. That's the that's 249 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: the job, yep. So there's no such thing as too 250 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: much weapons, like all of them, get them all you 251 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: call them. Yeah, that's where you're at. Well, so it's 252 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: you're right, and I mean you go and it sucks, 253 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: right ze, real quick. It sucks because if you're it's 254 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: the reality and you got to just own it. But 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: if you're in the NFC, it's not like this. No, no, no, 256 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: the n FC. We are the right now, one of 257 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: the team's third best team in the NFC, fourth best 258 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: team in the FC, certainly and considered a playoff lock 259 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: if we are if we're in the South or the North, 260 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: were likely the favorites in those divisions. I mean, that's 261 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: just that's just how it is, and that you know, 262 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: and the Niners are what they are even without even 263 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: knowing who the heck is playing quarterback for them. But no, 264 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. I mean, take Cincinnati for example, Cincinnati's 265 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: got Jamar Chase was sixth overall. Higgins was the first 266 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: pick of the second round. Tyler Boyd back in the day, 267 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: was a second round pick, Mixon was a second round pick. 268 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, who's no longer with them, was a second 269 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: round pick. And it's likely that they will replace him 270 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: with a tight end in either the first or the 271 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: second round this year. There's some guy that I keeps 272 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: getting linked to them that I read that The thing 273 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: that I read about him was and I don't remember 274 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: his name off the top of my head because I'm 275 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: not looking at tight ends for us, but was that 276 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: it would be like just dropping, you know, Dallas Clark 277 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: into this offense. No thanks, no, no thanks. Is it 278 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: the kid from Notre Dame Michael Mayer. I don't know. 279 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're like. He's like a Dallas 280 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: He's he's like putting Dallas Clark into the bank. No, no, no, thanks, 281 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: didn't know that. But I mean then you go and 282 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: you look, let's take like the Chargers for example. You know, 283 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Ackler, but you know Mike 284 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: Williams an early pick, Keenan Allen an early pick, and 285 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: a perennial pro bowler. You go to the Bills, they 286 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: traded s Firstefon Diggs, who was a former first round pick. 287 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: They're triumph, They're interested in acquiring more weapons. They feel 288 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: like they need to. They've been using early picks at 289 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: running back every single year to try to get somebody 290 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: to go there. With the Chiefs. You can say Tyreek 291 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: Hill was picked where he was, and that is true, 292 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: but I mean the guy had been an All Pro 293 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: every single year. Kelsey's the greatest tight end arguably as 294 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: a pass catcher, certainly of all time. And then they 295 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: still use early picks on running back. Clyde Edwards, a 296 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: layer didn't pan out, but they use early picks on 297 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: sky More. They bring in Juju Smith Schuster, a former 298 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: early pick. So they're trying to keep swinging. Always it's 299 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: always about weapon, you know, accumulation. And then I'm trying 300 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: to think, oh, Jacksonville, big free agent signing, Christian Kirk 301 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: who was an early pick, Calvin Ridley, Evan Ingram was 302 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: a former first round pick. You know, Travis etn is 303 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: a former first round pick. Skill talent, offense explosion. That's 304 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: what this league is about, very much so. And even 305 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the Jets, you know, Bruce Hall early pick, Elijah More, 306 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: second round pick, Garrett Wilson, first round pick, Corey Davis, 307 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: who's still technically on their roster, former first round pick, 308 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: like this is not It is about premium talent, those 309 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: positions and their teams that are fortunate, and you know, 310 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: you find it and every now and then you find 311 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: an I'm on Ross Saint Brown in the fourth round 312 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: like the Lions did, and then you say, oh, we're 313 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: still gonna put a first round pick with him in 314 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams who didn't even really get to play, and 315 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep loading it up and we're gonna bring in, 316 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, talented guys like David Montgomery. We're gonna give 317 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: away t J. Hopkinson still befuddles the rock crazy we're 318 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna do if we're gonna we're going to give Jared 319 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: goff As the best opportunity that he has to succeed. 320 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: And they could use one of their early picks on 321 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: another playmaker this year, Like why wouldn't they Why wouldn't 322 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: they of course they would. Yeah, it's the price of 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: doing business. It's what it's what it is. It's just 324 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: what it is. So um, yeah, I think this is uh, 325 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think Goodwin would be a fascinating thing. 326 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that it would be the end of it. 327 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be the end of it. It should be 328 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: something that is continually pursued. I love having Dabbs back. Um. 329 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: He was awesome, awesome human hum really was a really 330 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: good player. Um, you think about stabilizing, just a friendly voice, 331 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: all of it. I mean that the Dabbs Dabbs returning 332 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: as a home run, and we didn't we didn't get 333 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: into that too much, but it's I'm about as big 334 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: a fan of that as it could be me too. 335 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: And for two million dollars, why wouldn't you have somebody 336 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: knows the system. He's well liked and respected in the 337 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: locker room. And as we've said many times, look, there 338 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: wasn't anybody out there per se that had things gone. 339 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: If Deshaun were to you know, get Tom bradied and 340 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: early season injury, like, it's going to be very difficult 341 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: for us, you know. Jacoby Brissette played out of that 342 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: price range, and obviously so he did, and deservedly so. 343 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: And he's gonna get a chance, I think, to start with, 344 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, with Washington, or at least compete for that 345 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: job there with Howell. But there isn't you know, We're 346 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna go as DeShawn goes. And so to me, the 347 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: whole goal is how do we create an organization that 348 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: is putting him and this offense in the best place 349 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: succeed in the year twenty twenty three. And we talked 350 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: about some of the things that are contraryan to that, 351 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: that are a part of who we are right now. 352 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: Paying two guards and a running back that is not 353 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: It's not who will be in forty years, the years, 354 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: two years, maybe maybe not even one year, I don't know, 355 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: but that's not who we're going to be long term. 356 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you try explaining that 357 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: to people, like all we love all three of those guys, 358 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: and all three of those guys were just so good 359 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: that they demanded the contracts that they got. But if 360 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: you were building it, that's not the way you'd build it, No, 361 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: and they would I think that first thing they would 362 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: say is three of our top six salary cap hits 363 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: are going to be guards and a running back. No, 364 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: not a chance, not a chance. But that's just the 365 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: way that it's worked out. And you know, I think 366 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: that is why there are people and certainly we would 367 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: not do that on this program. And you want to 368 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: have your by the way, Batonio, I think four or 369 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: five straight Pro bowls, Nick Chubb, four straight Pro Bowls. 370 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Why I tell are two straight Pro Bowls? Like they're 371 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: players of great consequence and that's why you're not letting 372 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: them walk out the door. But at some point you 373 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: are not going to be able to have every luxury 374 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: that you want on this football team, especially with your 375 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: quarterback and what his salary is, that you are going 376 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: to have to make decisions and then lean on the 377 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: coach of a Stump Mitchell or just the fact that 378 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: this offense chen tends to produce successful running backs everywhere, period, 379 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: full stop, and that Bill Callahan is a guy who 380 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: it feels I can produce successful guard play out of anybody. 381 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: That's something that you're going to have to wrestle with 382 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: as this goes on and you're dealing with the situation 383 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: that you have now that you have a franchise quarterback. 384 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: When you have a franchise quarterback, you don't get to 385 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: have everything. It's just that's the way that it is. 386 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: That's the way the salary structures work. When you're on 387 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback contract, you can try to load up everything, 388 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: but we can't do that, and so there will be 389 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: hard decisions that have to be made in the next 390 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: eighteen months about that and how we're going to structure 391 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: it to do what you and I think makes a 392 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: lot of sense, which is weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, 393 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: and honestly, those weapons typically center around the passing game, 394 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: because if you can throw it effectively, you're always going 395 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: to be able to run it. Miles Sanders last year 396 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: average five yards of carrying Philly double digit touchdowns over 397 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: a thousand yards. And they're like, Okay, yeah, whatever doesn't matter. 398 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: We'll bring him a shot penny because he's gonna be 399 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: cheaper than you, and we'll draft somebody and we're gonna 400 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: get that same production anyway. Yep. Yeah, I mean it's 401 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: it's the Pacheco with Kansas City seventh round pick, Like 402 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: that's the Tony sent Zeke Elliott out of town. I mean, yeah, 403 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: every year there are running backs, and when you have 404 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: a system like ours that is so running back friendly. 405 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: The last I'm trying to rack my brain, but when's 406 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: the last time a team did anything of consequence with 407 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: a running back on a second contract? A premium running 408 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: probably have to a premium I mean, trying to settle 409 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. That's a potentially um I don't know, maybe 410 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: Corey Dylan with the Patriots' people listening to the show 411 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: who don't even know who Corey Dylan is. In fact, yeah, yeah, 412 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: Jerome bettis with the Steelers, Like that's a different world. Uh, 413 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: but it's not that. And that's the thing, like, you 414 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: gotta throw it and you gotta score. You gotta score. 415 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: In the thirties, you said this couple years ago and 416 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: it was so spot on. You've got to throw it 417 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: when the other team knows you're going to throw it. 418 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: And in order to do that, that means whether you're 419 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: trying to accumulate points in a game or you're chasing 420 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: a game, in order to do that, you yes, you 421 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: have to have the franchise dude quarterback if you want 422 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: to win at the highest level. We have that, but 423 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: you also need the weapons, and it's you're not going 424 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: to run the ball thirty five times. So everybody here 425 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: wants to run, run it, run it, okay, but there's 426 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: a ceiling to that, and it doesn't include hoisting the 427 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: Lombardi And that's the objective. And if it's not, then 428 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: what are you doing of everybody who's of age listening 429 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: to this show? Right? And people then they're you know, 430 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: certainly older. So let's say anybody who anybody whose main 431 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: point of reference in the NFL is let's call it 432 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. Okay, Yeah, and the game has 433 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: evolved immensely in the last fifteen years. But we said 434 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: March unless so the best running and anybody's seen in 435 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: that period. Adrian Peterson, I'm pretty sure never played in 436 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. No, was the league's MVP. Maybe the 437 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: closest he ever got was with Farve in championship. They 438 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: got to a championship game when he threw the bad 439 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: pick and that was down in Orleans. Yeah, yeah, okay, 440 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: you've got he was on that team, so Marshawn. But 441 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: then of recent memory, like everybody knows how dey Derrick 442 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Henry's great Zeke, like Girly with the Rams made it 443 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: one year, right, he made it one year when he 444 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: was but he was but yeah, yeah, because the year 445 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: they lost, he was still they lost, so good then 446 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: he might not have been. It was he was like 447 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: a comment. It was like four years yea and then done. Yep. 448 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, Dalvin Cook has been consistently great. You know 449 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: all the names people know from fantas, right, like that's it. 450 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: It's all fantasy guys. But that hasn't those people haven't 451 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: played for anything of consequence. No, And quite frankly, you 452 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: could maybe make an argument that you could do it 453 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: that way in the NFC. You can't do it that 454 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: way in the AFC. Can't. You are never going to 455 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: make an argument that you could go run heavy because 456 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: Philly did that, in San Francisco does that. But those 457 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: are also two the most diverse attacks in the league. 458 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: It's not just out of the run, it's everything horizontal 459 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: at alone vertical. So it's but it's at least in 460 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: the NFC you could say, Okay, there's a path for that, 461 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: a roadmap for it. There isn't in the AFC. And 462 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: when you acquired Deshaun Watson, that's when that roadmap changes. Well, 463 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you're ever in a situation where, 464 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: let's say fan base or your team fan base wants, 465 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: or your team in fact is better off in important 466 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: moments taking the ball out of your quarterbacks hands, you're 467 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: not winning the Super Bowl. No. So if you want 468 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: to turn around and hand it to Derrick Henry w 469 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: you want to turn around and hand it to Nick 470 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: Chubb when you need four yards in critical situations, you're 471 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: not winning the super Bowl. You have to be a 472 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: team that wants your quarterback making the plays that matter 473 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: and deciding outcomes. H And that's your internet. How's your 474 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: internet at your house? I think? Okay, why because it's terrible? 475 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Here is yours? Terrible? Gibby, You're not on Gibbe was 476 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: frozen for a long time. You've been fine the whole time. Yeah, 477 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: now are you on Gibbe? No? I mean, that was 478 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: a pastrami sandwich of content right there for the people 479 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: that we just gave them. Yeah, And that was unbelievable. 480 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: And I was trying to look up some of the 481 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: stats to back up some of the comments on art, 482 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: some of some of the positions. I mean, I think 483 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: so and it it's so no, I'm on, it's just slow, 484 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: just inching along. I had I had to put in 485 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: seven different like password, user name combinations yesterday to like 486 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: activate stuff because while I was gone, there was a 487 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: Google update that came through. Now there you go. I'm like, 488 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: can we just get one for everything? Yeah? Yeah, there 489 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: you go? All right, yeah, well at least you get 490 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: at least it's good. I mean that you give the 491 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: people all you want with that open Yeah, I know. 492 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: And that screwed it up when you came to me 493 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: because I didn't know how to turn it on the 494 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: on off and you said it, you said it a 495 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: light when they when they when you when you get 496 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: how's how are your designs for the studio coming? The 497 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: ones that you submitted? When I hear I'll let you know, 498 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: I'd like you to submit some designs, and I'd like, yeah, yeah, 499 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: there you go, Like we've got bodies that could come 500 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: in and set it up the way we need to. Yeah, 501 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: it's empower them years and all that stuff. Unfortunately, when 502 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: you were gone, they cared about my safety and they 503 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: fixed my chord that had been there for forever, shocking me. 504 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: And I heard you had an issue last week about 505 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: that blue flames. Gibbe, blue flame illuminated his face. Yeah, 506 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: shame came out of that little hole, blue flame right 507 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: at me. Then godlike figure, it just illuminated his face 508 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: as if. And then you know what happened. A young 509 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: man with some real hutzpah, a young man by the 510 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: name of Tequila Fila said, I love you enz not 511 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: letting this happen to You're not gonna get burned up 512 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: on my watch, new chord, no more problems. No, I 513 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: threw the chord out yesterday. I thought about plugging. Nana 514 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: was convinced. Nana was convinced that you were you were 515 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: out to get me a show. She didn't realize it 516 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: was as simple as a chord. And she's like, well, Gibbe, 517 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: it wouldn't just change the chord. Maybe he wanted to 518 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: offer you, Nana. I was well underway doing other things. 519 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: I was nowhere near this studio. I can assure you 520 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: or not, so that we got that sort out. So 521 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: that's a win, all right. Lots to get to EFZ 522 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: for the next half hour of this program, and then 523 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: he's often to do more important things we have around 524 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: the league that we will get to some quarterback news there, 525 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: some winners and losers through the first week of free agency. 526 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: The General John McLean will join us in the two 527 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: o'clock hour of the program, a little better or worse 528 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: in the second hour as well. We're often running on 529 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought you by bally Bet coming soon 530 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: to Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 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As we 536 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: go around the eage, Stephen Holder with ESPN saying the 537 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: Cults have not ruled out making a run for Lamar Jackson. 538 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: I also saw Stephen a Smith here in the last 539 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: hour saying that his belief is that it is so 540 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: deteriorated between Lamar and the Ravens that there is no 541 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: way that he would represent the franchise again. A lot 542 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: of smoke, man, I mean to me, that feels a 543 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: little bit more like an ember that feels more a 544 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: little bit more like fire like that's a screaming A 545 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: likes to go ahead and make, you know, grandiose statements. 546 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: But I do think that he's probably not making something 547 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: that definitive of a statement out of thin air. He 548 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: would have I think it properly sourced in some way. 549 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that he's I agree with you, there's 550 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't see a scenario where it's just made up. 551 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: The other one that I think could be interesting. So 552 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: the Dolphins picked up to his option yesterday, and I 553 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't know if Baltimore would have any interest in that 554 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: or not, but they could. That would not one thing 555 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: about that. It does not mean that Miami couldn't also 556 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: be interested in Lamar like they could include to it 557 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: in the deal. It would be have to be a 558 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: sign in trade deal. It would not be just Miami 559 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: claiming him and then trying to do it that way 560 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: through the tag because Miami can't be involved in anyway 561 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: that the first round pick. But it could be a 562 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: situation where they had a deal worked out where he 563 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: does an extension with Baltimore and then it's essentially a 564 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: sign in trade to Miami. So that's something that could 565 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: happen too. At this point. The crazy thing with him 566 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: is that we don't really have much of anything ever, 567 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: because it's just him now interviewing teams or teams interviewing him. 568 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: So when you see these reports of from holders saying 569 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: the Cults have not ruled out making a run for 570 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, how do you even do it? Do you say, hey, Lamar, 571 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: we're interested, and then do you call Baltimore and say 572 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: what would it take you sign him to do an 573 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: extension and then let's work out a deal, because the 574 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is do all this 575 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: leg work and then have Baltimore just match it. Well, 576 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing, right. So the reason that they 577 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: do this tag is that they say, oh, you think 578 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: this is your market, go ahead, We're gonna let somebody 579 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: else set the market, and then we're going to keep 580 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: you right. Do you think that this is what it 581 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: is we're going to see? So there are two slip 582 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: sides of it. On one side is why would I 583 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: as another team go down this road unless I know 584 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: for sure they're not going to match it to your 585 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: point or two? The other side is for Lamar can 586 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: I get somebody to give me an offer I know 587 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: they won't match. His leverage ultimately comes down to I 588 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: refuse to play for the Baltimore Ravens. He needs to 589 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: say that and be willing to give up thirty plus 590 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: million dollars in one year to do it for there 591 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: to be a high likelihood that he is able to go. 592 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: So this story pops up from Pro Football Talking Mike 593 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Florio a couple hours ago. Ravens QB Lamar Jackson free 594 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: to speak with other teams. He currently isn't, but someone 595 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: on behalf of someone on his behalf has, per multiple sources, 596 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: a rep for Jackson his contacted more than one team 597 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: in an effort to spark negotiations aimed at a possible 598 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: offer sheet, but the representative is not certified by the 599 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: NFL Players Association. Another source said the rep is telling 600 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: other teams Lamar is ready to move on from the Ravens, 601 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: as One source explained that the person to set Jackson 602 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: does not want a fully guaranteed contract. This is just weird, 603 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: and meanwhile, the NFLPA is last year. The NFL is 604 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: specifically instructive teams not to negotiate with reps, not certified 605 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: by the NFLPA. Clubs are reminded that under Article forty 606 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: eight of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement, player contracts may 607 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: only be negotiated with the player if he is acting 608 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: on his own behalf or with the players NFLPA certified agent. 609 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: Like he's screwing this up more. It's just I mean, 610 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: it's I'll give Baltimore credit for this obviously, this much, 611 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: I think you can say based on just where how 612 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: we got to this point. They they are very clearly 613 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: comfortable moving off of him or whatever. What's the what's 614 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: the plan? Well, I don't know that, but I think 615 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: they're it's very clear they're at the point where, sure, 616 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: we'll have him back at a price that we're willing 617 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: to pay at a market that will be set by 618 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: the league. Or we're also very clear that we're okay 619 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: moving in another direction. So because you wouldn't get to 620 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: this point if you weren't correct, it's we're too far 621 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: down the road now with this thing. And when they did, 622 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: when they gave him the tag, they gave him, um, 623 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 1: it opened all of this up. And I think the 624 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: wound is pretty fresh now. There's no doubt it just 625 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: changes what's their outlook, what's their future, who's their quarterback? 626 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: That's right, twenty three fields A couple of a month, 627 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago before it seemed like the 628 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: Bears were so we're now they're more locked into fields. 629 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: But like, would that have been a spot? That's why 630 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: I mentioned even the two a thing in Miami, like 631 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: would they do something where hey, let's do a one 632 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: and two. Ah, we'll do a contract to sign and 633 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: trade with with Lamar. You give us a one next 634 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: year in two and you can have Lamar Jackson and 635 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: put him on that roster with all those weapons. I mean, 636 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: is that is that the Is that what they're thinking? 637 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: It could? I don't know. It just feels like they 638 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: are very comfortable moving off of him. It's amazing how 639 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: that thing went so south, because he was as beloved 640 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: there as anybody and as big of a part of 641 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: everything they do as anyone ever's been, including Ray Lewis 642 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: for a certain moment, and then it's just all evaporated. Correct, 643 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: and he is in many ways to their operation, at 644 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: least the way that they've operated, and maybe they say 645 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: we don't want to operate the way we had but 646 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: he was by far the most valuable player maybe in 647 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: the league to his one team win when you were 648 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: ten points a game like that's unheard of. Yeah, it's 649 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: t J. Watt with the Seelers defense is eight points 650 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: a game. I mean, those are two of the most 651 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: staggering figures I've ever seen. So maybe they're saying we 652 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: don't want to operate that way. To the point that 653 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: we were making earlier, take it full circle. We're not 654 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: going to be able to compete with Alan Mahomes, Herbert Burrow, 655 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: Lawrence Watson with an offense built around a quarterback who's 656 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: not a great thrower but is the most dynamic runner 657 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: and overall package in the league. Because number one, we 658 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: can't get receivers to come here, we have to draft them, 659 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: and frankly, as their general manager pointed out, we haven't 660 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: been very good at that. Although I think Hollywood Brown 661 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: and Rashad Bateman could have been a fine tandem with 662 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. Not neither here nor there, but that you 663 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: can't get guys to come play there. They couldn't get 664 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: anybody to come play there. No, so well, in fact, 665 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: guys wanted out to your point, how can you compete 666 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: and Hollywood Brown and Lamar Jacks were boys, and he 667 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: was like, look, I can't play here. Yeah. Yeah, So 668 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: that's so that's how it's That's why this was always 669 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: going to be. We've said this for two years. This 670 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: is always going to be the trickiest contract negotiation in 671 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: the sport. For everything that you just laid out, it 672 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: was made more complicated by the Deshaun Watson bidding war 673 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: that led to his contract here. Um. All of those 674 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: things made this such a tough spot for the Ravens 675 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: and I don't, God, blood, I'm not feeling sorry for him. 676 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: They've won plenty um, but it's a tough spot and 677 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: where they go from there is going to be fascinating. 678 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: And how this gets done, whether it's another team with 679 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: an offer sheet, the problem is is like, how do 680 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: you how do you know what this because he's not 681 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have a representation. If you are a team that's interested, 682 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: how do you know what the sweet spot is in 683 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: terms of what Baltimore is willing to match. That's all 684 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: right to me. It seems like the easiest path forward 685 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: would be some sort of sign and trade where you 686 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: go to Baltimore and you come up with a package 687 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: on a trade that seems easier to me than trying 688 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: to give up the two ones and come up with 689 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: a number that Baltimore won't match, and so you don't 690 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: waste time there. It's almost like, hey, Lamar, would you 691 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: want to play an indie? Yeah? I would, Okay, Eric 692 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: de Costa, Here's this is what we're willing to give you. 693 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: This is the contract we'll do for Watts, for Jackson, 694 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: Here's what we're willing to compensate you for him becoming 695 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: a member of the Indianapolis Colts. That seems easier to 696 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: me than well, we think the numbers one hundred eighty 697 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: million guaranteed, so let's try that. Sure, you know, it 698 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: just seems what a mess. Speaking of a mess, Cam 699 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Newton is going to throw at Auburn's Pro Day. Did 700 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: you see his tweet? I don't even know where he 701 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: gets these hieroglyphics that he uses in his tweet. It's unbelievable. 702 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: It's all Eastern European block is what it looks like 703 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: to me, the type of the lettering he's using. But 704 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna throw out Pro Day. He goes, ain't no 705 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: way thirty two better than me, Like, this is a 706 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: thirty year old man going back to a college pro 707 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: day to throw. Yeah, and the MVP of the league. 708 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: And unfortunately for him, like if you look at all 709 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: the charting in the metrics, he basically has been one 710 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: of the worst quarterbacks in the league for the last 711 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: few years. Still can effect games with his legs, but 712 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, his best bet, I think to be in 713 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: the league would be to be a backup to Lamar Jackson. 714 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 1: You are going to play some games. They can run 715 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: pretty much the same offense with you. Yeah, sturies, No, 716 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: he can't throw it anymore so because of the injuries. 717 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: He can't throw it even the way that he used to. 718 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: I do think there's some a little bit of revisionist 719 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: history where people forget how effective he was as a 720 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: thrower and the arm strength that he had at certain 721 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: points in during his career, certainly the year that he 722 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: won the MVP. But when he had once the injuries happened, 723 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: he lost that. He lost that arm strength, you know, 724 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: and so he doesn't have that ability anymore. It's a 725 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: wild thing. It reminded me a little bit of Phil 726 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: Jackson saying that he did not want to coach Kobe 727 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: at the end because he did not want to coach 728 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: him when he wasn't great, because he didn't know how 729 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: he would deal with that. Now, Kobe ended up being 730 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: pretty graceful in terms of the lack of winning, because 731 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: I think they let him shoot thirty times a game 732 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: during the end of his career, even as he wasn't 733 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: as effective. But for Newton, it's hard to imagine any 734 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: place where he's would come in and be a backup 735 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: anywhere correct, and he's okay with it. That's why he's 736 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: always said him better. There's not thirty two better than me. 737 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: That's saying I'm a starting quarterback. So that's it. There 738 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: are certain people that just aren't wired to be backups. No, No, 739 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: he was. He was such a force of personality and 740 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: such a player, one of the most physically intimidating humans 741 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: I've ever seen on the field. The Texas putting some 742 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: pieces around the quarterback they're going to sign at number two, 743 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz and Devin Singletary getting into the mix there. 744 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: Texas with two pick, what are they pick? Our pick 745 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: was thirteen or twelve and they have number two overall, 746 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: So that's where that stands in terms of some of 747 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: the news around the league. A lot of the mock 748 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: drafts are coming out, and it does although Jeremiah has 749 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: just dropped a second ago and he saw as Bryce 750 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: Young going number one. Really yeah, mel has CJ going 751 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: number one. So we'll have the general honor about fifteen minutes. 752 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: I'll give us a better feel on what the thinking 753 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: is down in Houston. Of course, what they want to 754 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: have happened. Yeah, yeah, they'll have to be reactionary in that. 755 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I mean it could be all along 756 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: that they wanted Bryce Young and that this whole thing, 757 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: that this kerfuffle could end up of not being nearly 758 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: as consequential as we all thought it might be. Well, 759 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: what I think is interesting about all of this is 760 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: going into going into the combine, you couldn't find anybody 761 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: who did not say that there was a big gap 762 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: between Bryce Young and everybody else. And then it was 763 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: an argument like was it Levis or was it Anthony Richardson, 764 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: But it wasn't like it was automatically Stroud correct as 765 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: the number two guy. Well, now coming out of it, 766 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: and I saw McShee with this yesterday, it's now like 767 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: they're reevaluating their evaluations based on what they heard at 768 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: the combine, and the one thing that you have to 769 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: do was Strouds just look at the Georgia game and 770 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: then you go, well, there's everything you need. It's all there. 771 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, to your point, though, it could work out 772 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: exactly the way Houston wanted all along. They get young 773 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: at two and Stroud goes number one to Carolina and 774 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: everything works out the way that you wanted to at 775 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: that point. Ohio State Pro Day is tomorrow. Marvin Harrison 776 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: Junior will be running some routes in that one, so 777 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: that'll be an attention for people because he's going to 778 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: be quite highly coveted. CBS Sports ranking the AFC teams 779 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: after one week in free agency. We will get into 780 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: that coming out. 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Yeah, because all those young kids are going 799 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: to be a year better and a year more accustomed 800 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: to the system. They have the Bengals second, Orlando Brown 801 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: coming in. The problem with that seems I mean, those 802 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: two teams have met the AFC Championship Game two years 803 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: in a row. It seems fair that they'd be one 804 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: and two. They have the Jets three, and that's banking 805 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. That seems a little too thick to me, 806 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: even with Rogers right, Yep, agreed. They have Buffalo four. 807 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: Now Buffalo's got something. They lost Tremaine Edmonds. They did 808 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: pick up a guard, Deontay Hardy, a wide receiver as well. 809 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: They did get Jordan Poyer to return. But they were 810 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: the favorite in the NFL going into last season. They 811 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: have them fourth. I would have them up still. That's question, 812 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: and maybe it's my who. I feel like I know 813 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: the league fairly well. Who's Deontay Hardy? I don't know. 814 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: But they say an intriguing wide out in Deontay Hardy. 815 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, no idea. I don't 816 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: know him either, not a clue if you didn't know 817 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: his name, who the hell does that's true. Deontay Hardy 818 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: has been in the league. Yes, the stats with the 819 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, and two years ago he had thirty 820 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 1: six catches for five hundred and seven yards and three touchdowns. 821 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: Last year he had two catches for thirteen yards, and 822 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: he made he made the league as a Pro Bowl 823 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: punt returner in two thousand and nineteen. But I mean, 824 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing to suggest that the city would be going 825 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: to be an intriguing wide receiver of any type of consequence. 826 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: He's got in four seasons in the league seven hundred 827 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: and ninty yards, four touchdowns, and has averaged more than 828 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: ten yards a catch in exactly one season. Oh boy, 829 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: San Miami, he's got fifth or whoever did this this 830 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: thing that we don't know who's playing quarterback for them? Yeah, 831 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: they can't be fifth. I like the roster. Yeah, I 832 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: would have both the Chargers and the Jaguars ahead of Miami, 833 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: and I would have we do know who's playing a 834 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: quarterback in Miami, it's who, Well, we don't know that 835 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: because we don't know that he can stay upright, what 836 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: do you mean? But he's according to the Dolphins, he's 837 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: healthy and back and ready to go. And he was 838 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: healthy and back on three separate occasions last year and 839 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: didn't finish his that he's one hit from no career. 840 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: I agree he was out. He was out from what 841 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: the end of November through the season, through the playoffs. Yes, 842 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: I agree, but I would also I just can't roll 843 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: the dice on them that high with that health. Do 844 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: we know for sure that Aaron Rodgers is still going 845 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: to the Jets. The longer the strikes on, I feel 846 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: pretty still. I think it's I think it's Jets or retirement. Okay, 847 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: I think it'll get it'll get it'll get done. I mean, well, 848 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: the other thing is is he does have the one 849 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: last play in that he could just force them to 850 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: give him fifty million dollars and not play for them. Yeah, 851 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: so he has that, he has the final truck. The 852 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: Packers have leverage, but he has kind of the ultimate 853 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: leverage of Fine, I'll just play for you and I'll 854 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: take my fifty million and I'll just wreck your roster. Um. 855 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: He and he I would not put that pack I 856 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: think he is spite. I think Latte Larry weeps. Yeah, 857 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: in the in the wake of Aaron Rodgers spite. I 858 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: think he would do. I could see him taking the fifties, 859 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: showing up in September malcontent. I mean I I think 860 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: it's all in play, all in play. Yeah. Um, he's 861 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: got Jaguar. They got Jaguars sixth Chargers up to point yeah. Yeah, 862 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: uh Baltimore eight. We don't even you want to know 863 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. Yeah. They really haven't made any 864 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: they've made They've lost everybody. They don't Here's the other thing. 865 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that I want to point out. 866 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: We know and got to know Todd Monkin from his 867 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: time here. H you saw what he did at Georgia. 868 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: M doesn't it feel like Todd Monkin's there to quarterback 869 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: and coordinate an offense that does not involve that. That 870 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: looks more like the elite offenses in the NFL and 871 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: not like Lamar Jackson's offense. Yes, which is why I 872 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: threw out the to a thing is a sign in 873 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,959 Speaker 1: trade as like a bridge sign in trade, because that's 874 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: what he I mean, what two I ran at Bama 875 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: is what Todd is going to want to run in 876 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's similar to Miami. I don't think you 877 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: can run McDaniel's offense with Lamar ja Aackson. No, you can't. 878 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: He'd have to change it, which he wouldn't. No, I 879 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't think. Um So in terms of some entry ones, 880 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: they have Vegas way down at fourteen. I think Vegas 881 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: is better than New England. I don't understand any effatuation 882 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: with New England at all. No, terrible, They're they're fourth 883 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: in that division. I'm a mccordy like running back what 884 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: he said a few weeks ago on Good Morning Football 885 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: and being like, yeah, half the room wanted the other guy. 886 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: How could they not the guy played great. Yeah, well, 887 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: remember he was adamant about it was a Bailey zappy, 888 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: wasn't it. What's that that was a Bailey's ample. Yeah, 889 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: we saw firsthand. What's crazy about this is it's a 890 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: top ten nine where used to be ahead of Denver. 891 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: But the top ten teams all feel legit. You never 892 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: can count the Pittsburgh Seelers outsides eleven, but then twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, 893 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: feel like they're pretty far down in the team that 894 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: actually has a chance to get good the fastest is 895 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: probably the Texans. Yes, yeah, I mean I would put 896 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 1: the Texans behind those Steelers at number twelve, just because 897 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: of Rabel, the Rabel factor and getting the most out 898 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: of those two guys. The Titans a playoff team, no, yeah, 899 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: those are New England. To me, feels like a road 900 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: to nowhere. Titans feel like a road to nowhere. Uh, 901 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: Vegas feels like a road to nowhere. I don't know 902 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They're so just limited Vegas. I feel 903 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: it could be quite competent. Well they could be, but 904 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: they're also not a contender to me, No, that makes sense, 905 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: Like it feels like they're at best the third team 906 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: in the AFC West. Yeah, which is a playoffs sign anybody. Defensively, well, 907 00:47:53,840 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: they got Apps traded with. Yeah, like they they got 908 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: some real defense. You know. The key to this whole 909 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: operation because you look at us and you say, gosh, 910 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,439 Speaker 1: we're better than the tenth bets team in the AFC. 911 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: But it really is the first line of a second paragraph. 912 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: The play of Deshaun Watson is what will decide Cleveland season. 913 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. That's that's it. So nothing else 914 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: where anybody ranks you in any of these things until 915 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: people see that that's that's where you're at. Ye is 916 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: right there. So um, I would have the top five 917 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Cincinnati, Buffalo Chargers, Jaguars in that in that 918 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: order probably yep, and then Miami Jets behind them is 919 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: probably the way I'd go with it. We could be 920 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: and we could shoot right up to any level that 921 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: we we so desire. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, buddy, 922 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: enjoy your afternoon, all right, appreciate you, gentlemen. The general. 923 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: Coming up next you listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought 924 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: you by Baally Bet Coming soon to Hio one eight 925 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: fifty yesp in Cleveland. Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you 926 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty 927 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:34,959 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. All Right, second hour here on Cleveland Browns Daily, 928 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: brought you by Baally Bet coming soon to Hio one 929 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Time to head on on the 930 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: Twist to t Hard iced tea hotline official sponsor for 931 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twist to Cleveland for the 932 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: legend the General. John McLean joining us, of course, from Gallery, 933 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: Sports dot Com and Sports Radio six ten in Houston. Boy, John, 934 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: before you get into some of the specifics here, sir, 935 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time. It feels 936 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: like there's like an exchange program between the Texans and 937 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: the Browns. You get some of our guys every offseason, 938 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: we get some of yours. There's a relationship there almost 939 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: every offseason we can count on it. And that was 940 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: before the Deshaun Watson trade. Ye, there just seems to 941 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: be a pipeline right now. The Texans also have one 942 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: going on with the Cowboys and as they continue year 943 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: three of their rebuild. But you know, you, guys, I've 944 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: always liked Jordan Aikins, and he was a former baseball 945 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: player with the Rangers. Couldn't have to curb Texans drift 946 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 1: him in third round. And while he never really lived 947 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: up to being a what he could have been, last season, 948 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: he was better than etime in his career. The Giants 949 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: cut him the Texans signing to the practice squad and 950 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: they didn't activate him till the middle of a until 951 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: the middle of October. And Jordan, what he did better 952 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 1: than any time in his career was when he got 953 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 1: the ball, he outran people, He broke tackles. He's really 954 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: an each back or like a guide receiver because he 955 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 1: can move. He'll make an effort to block, but that's 956 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: not his strength. And he tied his career high with 957 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven catches, and he had a setup career high 958 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 1: with four ninety five yards, and he had five touchdowns. 959 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: And he'll be remembered like love. He's smith for beating 960 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts in the last game of the season 961 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: and costing the Texans the first overall pick in the draft. Yeah, 962 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: even certainly, what when you think of you You were 963 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: around Deshaun for a long time, and obviously there's familiarity 964 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: with Aikens and DeShawn How important do you think that 965 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: will be for Watson as he goes through a full 966 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: off season, in a full training camp, knowing that he 967 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 1: can play right away. I think if if Jordan plays 968 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 1: the way he played last season over the last let's 969 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: see three months, Watson's going to see a guy he 970 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: can rely more because he knows he's going to get 971 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: yards after the cat. And when I would say like 972 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: breaking tackles, Jordan's like two forty five. He's six four, 973 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: two forty five. Is a real good guy, a real 974 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: good talk talker to always hated here when they get 975 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: rid of the talkers, and sometimes I think doesn't why 976 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: Nick Assario doesn't bring him back is because they are 977 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: good talkers and he'll see Jordan. I don't know what 978 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: the deal is why he ran as well as he 979 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 1: did last season, because he's playing with Davis Mills. He's 980 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: playing with a terrible offensive coordinator, pet Hamilton. He got 981 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: fired after one season, but when he got the ball, 982 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: he took off and ran. He had some good runs. 983 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: He was a fan favorite. Watson played with him for 984 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: three years, and so you know that's kind of overrated 985 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: because a guy can't play. It's not gonna help the 986 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: quarterback at all. But Jordan turns thirty one next month 987 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: and he still got it because at thirty he showed 988 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: it better than any time in his career. Well, another 989 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: guy that we're hoping, you know, in terms of former 990 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 1: texting that has it is Okanronquo Burst signed the scene 991 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 1: at the end last season. A lot of people were 992 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: high on him in the process. We know it's a 993 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: bit of a projection. Are those projections that you hear 994 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: in the excitement people here abound to leave him? Is 995 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: it justified? John? Well, he had more SIGs than Clowning, 996 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. And Obo. So he's from Houston, 997 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: a good guy. They signed him to a one year deal. 998 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: When he got more playing time over the second half 999 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: he produced. He had five SIGs, but that's a part 1000 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: time role. Then he got to start and I was 1001 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: kind of surprising him bringing back. They have a budget 1002 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: on him. They don't break the budget, I think. For 1003 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 1: if the Browns are looking for a guy to come 1004 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: in in passing situations, he's a good one. He's under 1005 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: rating against the ruin, although he's kind of under size 1006 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: was about two fifty two, two fifty three. But he 1007 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: gives everything he's got on every play. Well, you know 1008 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: that's the idea of playing opposite Miles, I think is 1009 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,280 Speaker 1: what they're banking on, and that if he gives everything 1010 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: he's gone on every play, that'll be a step in 1011 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 1: the right direction. Do you think that there's a potential 1012 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 1: he could turn into an every down guy, John? Or 1013 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: is that too much? I think that's too much o'cron close. 1014 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: You know he's been with the Rams. He was part 1015 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: time player here, he was part time starter, and I 1016 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,479 Speaker 1: know that's the role of the brown start would happen 1017 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,959 Speaker 1: with Clowney, With Miles Garrett and double team all the time, 1018 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: Clowny would give more sacks. But did you have meon Clowney? 1019 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: As I told you guys after they signed him, he 1020 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: was never a great pass rusher. He was always better 1021 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: against the run. Early in his career, after he had 1022 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: micro practice surgery, he told me one time, he said, 1023 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,919 Speaker 1: everybody talks about me as a pass rusher, but I've 1024 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: always been better against the run. And that was the case. 1025 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: And now, of course he's bouncing around like a pinball 1026 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: all over the NFL. In retrospect, he should have taken 1027 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's offer here he was seventy five million because 1028 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: they weren't going to pay him, and why one hundred 1029 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 1: million Looking back, he probably had taken it. But oh, 1030 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 1: Obo is gonna if he's gonna put out on every play, 1031 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: you'll make some plays he's not supposed to make. And 1032 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: if he has to start, say somebody gets hurt, have 1033 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 1: to see when he can do that. Or maybe based 1034 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: on what he did at the end of last season, 1035 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,919 Speaker 1: maybe he just had a point in his career where 1036 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 1: he took that next step and he can go into 1037 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: the offseason program and training camp and win a job. Yeah. 1038 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: You know one of the guys that you know, Nathan 1039 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: and I on the program here had talked about that 1040 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: we had an interest in bringing in in terms of 1041 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: a former Texan was Brandon Cooks and he got dealt 1042 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys over the weekend. How competitive were those talks? 1043 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 1: Were other teams in on it? John? And what would 1044 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: have that? What would he have helped? Because one thing 1045 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 1: we're missing here is we gotta have somebody who takes 1046 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: the top off the defense. I don't have that right now, 1047 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: feel like we need it. Watson thrived with a couple 1048 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: of those guys down in Houston where the Browns ever 1049 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: in on Cooks at all. And do you think that 1050 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: he would have been somebody that Wats would have loved 1051 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: to have had a little bit of a reconnection with. Well, 1052 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 1: he played really well when he played with Sean. He's 1053 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: never since early in his career, he hadn't been a 1054 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: kind to take the top off of defense. And he's small. 1055 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: People wonder why he keeps getting traded. Well, they're legitimate 1056 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: reasons for each of those. When he was in New Orleans, 1057 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: they needed a low one when he came to draft 1058 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 1: because they want an offensive tackle Ryan Ramchick, and he's 1059 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: been a really good player for the Saints. He goes 1060 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: New England, plays great, beat the Texans with a touchdown 1061 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 1: in the last segment. But they didn't want to give 1062 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: him big bucks because his corn tracts up. Send him 1063 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 1: to the Rams. Good one year, and then he had concussions. 1064 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: They were worried, but he could start having concussion issues. 1065 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: And here he was traded because he was really tight 1066 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: with Jack easter Be. When they fired Jack easter Be, 1067 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't the same guy. And when it wasn't he 1068 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: wasn't the same player, but he got mad when he 1069 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: didn't get traded to the Cowboys and on his team 1070 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: and they missed a couple of games. They took his 1071 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 1: captain see away, then they brought him back. He had 1072 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: his best game like Aikins in the last game at 1073 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis in which he won, and he wanted to be 1074 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: traded to the Cowboys. Nick Cassario did he got a 1075 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: five this year and the six next year. I guess 1076 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: there's other teams that would have given that because Brandon 1077 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: can still play, and I think he was doing Cook's 1078 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: a favor sending any where he wanted to go. Oh okay, 1079 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: I see on that. You know you saw de Shaan 1080 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: firsthand at his best. And one of the things that 1081 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: they're figuring out this offseason is what is the best 1082 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,479 Speaker 1: way to take the talent on our roster and give 1083 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: Watson the best chance for success When he was at 1084 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: his best, What did it look like down there, and 1085 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: what should Kevin Stefanski in the offensive brain trust here 1086 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: put in to get the most out of him. When 1087 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: Watson was at his best, he was great. That lasts 1088 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: in here, he was tremendous. They was started off He 1089 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't start the first game, came in at halftime, started 1090 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: the second one primetime Cincinnati. He won, and then he 1091 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: blew out his knee. Three three as a starter, he 1092 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: had a phenomenal game at Seattle. They lost on the 1093 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: last second Russell Wilson touchdown, and all the defensive players 1094 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: of Seahawks all said it was the best quarterback he'd 1095 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: ever played against him, and Richard Sherman said, that's not rookies, 1096 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: that's all quarterbacks. And so then he blew out his 1097 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: knee in practice. He comes back in eighteen. He showed 1098 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: his toughness. He had a punctured a collapse, long broken ribs. 1099 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: He never missed a game, and so people were really 1100 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: in dared to him. They were eleven and five. He 1101 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: was terrible in playoff game at nineteen and twenty. He 1102 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: really took off, and he liked Bill O'Brien. He defended 1103 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: O'Brien when people him wanted him fired. Now he had 1104 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: the luxury of playing indoors here and good weather in 1105 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: the vision, playing bad weather up there and all games 1106 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 1: outdoor in the division. I'd be really surprised if he 1107 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: comes close to having the stats that he did here. 1108 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: Because the conditions were better and the competition was easier 1109 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: than he's gonna face. But he is a great quarterback. 1110 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna be He's gonna be tough. We saw him 1111 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: get kicked in the eye. Art and Key with the 1112 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: Raiders at the time, rushed him and he was going 1113 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: down and his foot went into Watson's face mask and 1114 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: kicked him in the eye. And Watson looked like he 1115 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: was putting his iron place while he was rolling out, 1116 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: and actually he was moving his face masking to a 1117 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: touchdown pass. And he showed up afterward his whole side 1118 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: of his face was swelled up. And then the best 1119 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: way to me that Watson ever made was wildcard game 1120 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: against Buffalo here in two thousan nineteen. He was being 1121 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: blitzed and two players hit him simultaneously from each side, 1122 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: and somehow he spun out of and they both hit 1123 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: it marked through a long pass and they end up 1124 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: winning on the field goal in overtime. He's tough, and 1125 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,439 Speaker 1: I don't I'm guessing all the legal issues he has. 1126 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Who can compartmentalize them. He hadn't played except for Brown's 1127 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: last year after the suspension. Since he's had all those 1128 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: off the field issues, but when it comes to football, 1129 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: he's respected by his teammates and coaches. He works his 1130 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: tail off and he's one tough soob and he can 1131 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: make plays off schedule anything you want. But it's going 1132 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: to be tougher for him. People can't expect him to 1133 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: duplicate or surpass the stats here because where he plays 1134 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: is a whole different animal. Yeah, certainly is talking to 1135 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: the legendary the general. John McClain from Gallery Sports dot 1136 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Com and Sports Radio six ten joining on the Twisted 1137 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: Tea Hotline. All of this momentum as we go back 1138 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: to the team that you spend your time cover of, 1139 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, all this momentum for CJS Stroud at 1140 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: the top of the draft with Carolina, is it possible 1141 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 1: that Houston might get Is it wrong to think that 1142 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 1: what they wanted all along with Bryce Young and they 1143 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: might just get him. Well, first of all, fans and 1144 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: media wanted Bryce Young year since he beat the University 1145 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: of Texas and Austin early in the season, and they 1146 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: don't have a clue if he's better than c J. Stroud. 1147 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: The fans and the media here, it depends on what 1148 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Nickssario Damiko Ryan's their new coordinator, Bobby Slowick. What they want. 1149 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: I based it on, you know, heaven throw at the 1150 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: combine as a waste of time having a pro day. 1151 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 1: That's like a Broadway play. You've been rehearsing for weeks. 1152 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 1: If you're not great at your pro day, something's wrong. 1153 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: But they go back because the tape doesn't lie. And 1154 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: both of those guys were great, and Young did not 1155 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: have the weapons this season. Does CJ. Stroud did. Personally, 1156 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 1: I'd be happy with either one of them. But yesterday 1157 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Scott Fitterer and Frank Reich started talking about basically size 1158 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. In other words, Necessario, we may take Bryce Young, 1159 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,919 Speaker 1: you need to give us your number one pick next 1160 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: year so we can swap places. I do not see 1161 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Frank Wright going away from his philosophy of quarterbacks because 1162 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: it's documented he can't denied, and going back to when 1163 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 1: he had Philip Rivers and saying me to go all 1164 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: the way up to six foot five Matt Ryan. Last year, 1165 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: all is, every starting quarterback who started regularly was at 1166 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: least sixty three. Did they give up that kind of 1167 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: compensation for five ten and one eighth quarterback if they did, 1168 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: then they must think Bryce Shung's going all the fame. 1169 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Well said sir, if you mind, if you don't mind, 1170 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the Houston Cougars, and 1171 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious in town. Sure, they're the number one, you know, 1172 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 1: number one seed in the region, obviously potentially a matchup 1173 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,919 Speaker 1: with Texas in the regional final, which I think would 1174 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: be incredible if that happened. What how what does the 1175 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: city of Houston, a monster city like that, What is there, 1176 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, give a damn level 1177 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: for Houston Cougars basketball, and how much of that is 1178 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: at the center of this run that they're in right now? 1179 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 1: People are eating it up for two reasons. Number One, 1180 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: everybody loves Kelvin Sampson, their head coach. Number two, the 1181 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 1: rightous of the worst team again three years in a row. 1182 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: And so we have a basketball team here in the 1183 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: Cougars that it has a chance to win it all. 1184 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 1: My employer at Gallery sportscot dot com Mattress mac our 1185 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: furniture salesman and the nation's most were now better bet 1186 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: on them to win the championship before the season. He 1187 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: did that with Kansas last year and one fifteen million. 1188 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: Then he won his seventy five million with the Astros, 1189 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 1: so he bet on the Cougars before the season. Everywhere 1190 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: you go, whether it's online, TV, radio, he's got ads 1191 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: telling people you come out and buy five thousand dollars 1192 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 1: worth of furniture of the Houston Cougars win the championship 1193 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 1: right here in the NRG Stadium. You get that furniture free, free, free, 1194 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: and the people just keep coming out buying furniture. Like 1195 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: he beat ten million on the Astro, so thirty million 1196 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: worth of furniture, so if they hadn't worn it, he 1197 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: still would have made twenty meets. He's a great promoter, 1198 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: so since he is everywhere, you can't turn on anything 1199 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: without him talking about the Cougars and buying that five 1200 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: grand and having to free, free, free, and so people 1201 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: here are pumped right now. The Astros are down about 1202 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: josel two days broken thumb and might not be here 1203 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: before the middle of June. And then the Texans actually 1204 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 1: have had nothing but positive pubs since they hired to 1205 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: meet o Ryans. Yeah, yeah, that's it's fair. I would 1206 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: think a Texas Houston Regional final with the right to 1207 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: go to Houston would have quite a bit of juice 1208 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 1: to it down in your parts. I hope that it 1209 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 1: pla with the long orange. It would have been better 1210 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: if they had a chance to meet in the final. 1211 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: The whole seventy four thousand in the stadium would have 1212 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: been read in burn orange. I hate burn orange. I 1213 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: don't mind the rad but as a Baylor, dry Baylor guy, 1214 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: do not want to see burnt orange in the file four. 1215 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: We see enough of that stuff everywhere you go in 1216 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: our state. Sir. It's a great pleasure. Thank you so 1217 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 1: much for your time. Really enjoy it as always, Boa Jason, 1218 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: my pleasure. Thank you guys for having me. That is 1219 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 1: the great John McLean. He is the general from Gallery 1220 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 1: Sports dot Com and Sports Radio six ten. He joined 1221 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 1: the show via the Twisted T Hotline, brought to body 1222 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Twisted T Hard Iced tea official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. 1223 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Keep it Twisted Cleveland. That's awesome. That's you know, the 1224 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: think of the perspective of that, and I'm sure he 1225 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: is because you think about University of Texas and the 1226 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: way that they are in that state and how you 1227 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean, because you think about it. Not only do 1228 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: you have Houston. You got smum in Dallas. You have 1229 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Texas Tech Up. Baylor, you got TCU, you got Texas 1230 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 1: A and M you get. I mean, that's the old 1231 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: Southwestern conference. On the one you're missing was Arkansas, and 1232 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 1: that's the old south could run their own conference. They did, 1233 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean they want for a while they did, and 1234 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: then eventually every single one of them got on probation 1235 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: of late eighties. They were all cheating with oil money. 1236 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: But good stuff there on the guys that we signed, 1237 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see what happens at the top 1238 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: of the draft. I tend to think that he's right, 1239 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: and it feels like most people are coming along that way. 1240 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 1: That will be CJ. Shroud at number one and Bryce 1241 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Young at number two. And maybe that's the way that 1242 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: it all works out from the Houston perspective on that one. 1243 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 1: All right, we will we scaled that a little higher, lower, 1244 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,919 Speaker 1: a little better or worse coming your way. 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Couple of minors signings here 1254 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: in the last hour or so becoming official. Matthew Adams 1255 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: comes in two bree He has signed via Chicago. He 1256 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: is a linebacker and special teams player on that side 1257 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: of thing. And my Internet is so sol Gibby, perhaps 1258 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 1: you could tell me the other one. I got you, 1259 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 1: I got you. Matthew Adams, his sixth NFL season out 1260 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: of Houston, was originally a seventh round pick by the 1261 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Colts in twenty eighteen. Has appeared in sixty eight career 1262 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: games with twelve starts, adding he had twenty four stops 1263 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: on special He's a special teams guy. Yeah. And then 1264 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: Mike Ford is the corner who comes in from Atlanta 1265 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: and we knew about this yesterday. Yeah, he's special teams. 1266 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Undrafted free agent in twenty eighteen four to play in 1267 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: sixty one games, nine starts, with the Lions eighteen through 1268 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty Broncos and Falcons recorded forty seven career tackles on defense, 1269 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 1: twenty three special teams tackles. He appeared in all seventeen 1270 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: games with the Falcons last year, and again that I 1271 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: would assume most of those are special teams. Yeah, I mean, 1272 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: you got to have those guys. I you know, I 1273 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 1: think what everyone is waiting on is that other thing. 1274 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: I know that they're working on it. We know the 1275 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: good one was here in the building yesterday. I did 1276 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 1: see Mary Kay's report that the Browns preferred Odell Beckham 1277 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Junior to DeAndre Hopkins. I sure, I just don't see 1278 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: how either one of those guys right now is an 1279 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 1: action well there, I think. I mean Hopkins I think 1280 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: would be more of a like known. I mean Odell 1281 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: is coming off of two catastrophic injuries in the last 1282 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 1: three years. So I mean that's you know, who knows 1283 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: what he looks great running routes, but who knows what 1284 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that looks like, what the explosion is on that. I'm 1285 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: for both. I mean, I think again it goes back 1286 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 1: to the conversation Zee and I were having all the weapons, 1287 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 1: give me all of them. You know, that's that's really 1288 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 1: what's required. M Odell sold his house so he would 1289 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 1: have to find you police to stay. But yeah, yeah, 1290 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm for all of it. Give me all the weapons 1291 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: in the world. I hate to say it, I said 1292 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 1: it last week. Be the Bengals. Yeah, surround your quarterback 1293 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: with all the weapons and options that you can get. Yeah, 1294 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where when you 1295 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 1: think about what I mean, some of it's just damn 1296 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,840 Speaker 1: his dumb luck. Sometimes, you know, it's the way that 1297 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 1: the lottery balls. I know there aren't lottery balls and 1298 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 1: the NFL draft, but it's kind of the way that 1299 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: the balls fall out of the thing there. And the 1300 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,680 Speaker 1: year that Cincinnati drafted one, Burrow was the guy. It 1301 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 1: was very well known that he was the guy, and 1302 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: it was anybody else was gonna be Herbert and he's 1303 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: a dude too. And then in the next draft, Jamar 1304 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Chase is available. All so you're able to and you 1305 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: pick high enough. Now it was funny, as you recall, 1306 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: so many people at that time were like Pinay Suil, 1307 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: you got to protect Burrow, Pinay sul Burrow got hurt 1308 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 1: as a rookie, you got to protect him, and I'll 1309 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: never forget talking to Laura I about this, and he said, 1310 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,720 Speaker 1: he goes, look, dude, we never game plan for a 1311 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 1: left tackle. Like He's right. If I got to deal 1312 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: with a receiver like that, then that changes the way 1313 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: that we attack things defensively. So there's such a so 1314 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: much talk about you know, the old line and all 1315 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: of that, and you know, especially around here in town, 1316 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: we got to get more protection up. Now. What you 1317 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: needs weapons, You need things that make defenses change the 1318 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: way that they play. If you have the weapons and 1319 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: you have the talent offensively, lineman want to come play 1320 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: for you. Look at Orlando Brown. Yeah, and that's just 1321 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: after money. Lale Collins last year went there, Yeah to play. 1322 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 1: So you can patch me all that together. As long 1323 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 1: as you've got the quarterback and the weapons. We've got 1324 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback. We've got some weapons. We just need some 1325 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 1: more to be able to consistently have those conversations. So 1326 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: all right, And like I get if people are like, 1327 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: what do these moves mean? Like you're building the back 1328 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,759 Speaker 1: end of the roster. You're building with solid special teams guys, 1329 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 1: a special teams unit that needed some help. You've got 1330 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,719 Speaker 1: a new special teams coordinator, who I'd have some things 1331 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 1: that he wants out of certain positions that maybe coach 1332 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 1: Prief didn't didn't want. So you're working that out. And 1333 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 1: the other thing is and you were when you were 1334 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 1: off last week. Zee and I talked about this a 1335 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: little bit, and I think that we did a pretty 1336 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 1: good job here on the show of setting the groundwork, 1337 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 1: laying the groundwork for what this free agency was going 1338 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: to be. There were a lot of people out there 1339 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 1: thrown around Jesse Bates and all of this stuff, and 1340 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: it was like, no, that was never in play. You're 1341 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: already compensating your best players. You can't pay Jesse Bates 1342 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars a year to play safety. That was 1343 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,640 Speaker 1: never going to be the case. So I think we 1344 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: did a pretty good job of understanding the cap, understanding 1345 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: the constraints of it. And you can renegotiate Watson, but 1346 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: you still have to pay for all of this and 1347 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 1: it's got to all fit under and so you can't 1348 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: go this isn't like when we had Baker on a 1349 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 1: rookie deal and Denzel on a rookie deal and we 1350 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: hadn't even paid Miles yet, and we're spending like crazy. 1351 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: This isn't where we are. We are about being smart, 1352 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: finding guys like Obo who can you hope can take 1353 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: a big leap opposite miles um and building the roster 1354 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,680 Speaker 1: that way. So that's that's where this thing is um. 1355 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: But as we talked about earlier, like job one is 1356 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Watson back to Watson levels. That's really the comes down 1357 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: to also build a don't my words, not anyone else's, 1358 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 1: but you hear John McLean like Shaun Watson gonna be 1359 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 1: here ten years, put a rough on the thing, yep, 1360 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean that it would be helpful. That's the operation 1361 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 1: we got to get done there. All right, we'll do 1362 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: a little better, worse, higher, lower poise Allen Studio with 1363 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 1: us coming up next to listen to cleveand Brown's Daily 1364 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 1: brought you by ballely Bett, coming soon to Ohio on 1365 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: a fifty ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you 1366 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 1: by ballely Bett coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty 1367 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. I'd talk a little higher lower APN studio. 1368 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 1: How you doing man and fantastic though back, Yeah, yeah, 1369 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a lot of them so far. 1370 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 1: I feel like compared to past years. But um, yeah, 1371 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 1: a couple a couple of big free agent names today 1372 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: say special team's names. That's what I meant to say, 1373 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: special team's names today. Um. You know, it seems like 1374 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 1: Bubba has uh given a few recommendations out to AB 1375 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 1: and uh you know they're bringing in bringing in a 1376 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: couple of couple of guys who have been studs on 1377 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: that side of the ball for him. So um yeah, 1378 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 1: like Matthew Adams. Uh you know, he spent his first 1379 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 1: four years in India when Bubba was the special team's 1380 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,439 Speaker 1: coordinator there, So I would imagine that had something to 1381 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,600 Speaker 1: do with, uh, you know, the team bringing him in. Um. 1382 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 1: So it seems seems like things are training in the 1383 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: right direction on you know, in that department. You know, 1384 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,439 Speaker 1: we said there were a couple of guys in over 1385 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,600 Speaker 1: the weekend as well, Knash brought back and um you 1386 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 1: were you were looking at some of those signings and um, 1387 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, people say, oh, you know, who cares a 1388 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 1: special team guys like look, he had a new special 1389 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,720 Speaker 1: teams coordinator. Yeah, who might want something else out of 1390 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: certain positions than Prief wanted. And he's brought in because 1391 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 1: they're just trying to make that side of the ball better. 1392 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 1: And so it makes sense that, you know, it's it's 1393 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 1: still early in free agency, but that that's been more 1394 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 1: of a priority I think for for the front office 1395 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: this year is let's get guys in who have been 1396 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, also established tacklers as gunners and and and 1397 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 1: you know all the other special teams positions. And um, 1398 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 1: I think that's what they did today. So it's it's 1399 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: definitely not not gonna be the biggest news of our 1400 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 1: off season, but um, but it's still good to see that, 1401 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're working hard at improving a department 1402 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: that needed some help last year. Yeah. Absolutely, Hello Gibbey, 1403 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 1: Hi boys, are you doing? Oh? You know, I keep 1404 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 1: thinking it's first Friday, but it's only Tuesday, you know. 1405 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 1: I had So I'm flying at five thirty Saturday morning 1406 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: with the family. That's the best we could do. So 1407 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,679 Speaker 1: we're flying five thirty Saturday. I was talking to former 1408 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 1: NFL player Bobby Carpenter this morning and he told me 1409 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 1: that on his flight back from spring break, Um, he 1410 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: was in the Bahamas and it started, you know, you 1411 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: start losing it. You're like, we're not making this connection, 1412 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna work. And they're like, look, you're gonna be 1413 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,679 Speaker 1: stuck in the Bahamas for three more days, um, which 1414 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 1: is fine. I mean the worst places to be stuck. Um. 1415 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Or we can get you to Miami and you can 1416 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: get stuck there, or we might be able to get 1417 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,759 Speaker 1: you to Philly and then you can drive or find 1418 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 1: a flight from Philly. And he lives in Columbus to 1419 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,720 Speaker 1: fly over, um. And he had the two boys with him. 1420 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 1: His wife and daughter were on another flight, so they 1421 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: were already home. And he's like, get me to Philly 1422 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: and we'll deal with it. And that was the way. 1423 01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 1: But this is I have a I just can I'm 1424 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: gonna be in the in a mess. It's a lock. 1425 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: It's a lock. It's like stream break disasters. It's going 1426 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,679 Speaker 1: to be a disaster. We're going through Dallas. It's better 1427 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 1: than Chicago this time of year. You can't do Chicago 1428 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 1: this time of year. Um. So it's better than Denver 1429 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: this time of year. Minneapolis is the only northern airport 1430 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,839 Speaker 1: I trust. But you can't fly here to there anymore. 1431 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 1: That's out. You always gonna go through Detroit, you go 1432 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: to Well, there's like a couple of flights a week. 1433 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: But like, used to be, anytime you went west on 1434 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: del you'd go Minneapolis. Now a lot of times I'll 1435 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 1: make you go Detroit Minneapolis and then yeah, I mean 1436 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,679 Speaker 1: that's awful. I was lucky from our golf trip last week, 1437 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 1: me and another guy, uh the official animal warden of 1438 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,800 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah. Yeah, he and I were on a 1439 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: direct on Spirit. Like, but my one of our friends 1440 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,919 Speaker 1: like had a layover in Atlanta. One I had to Vegas, Yeah, 1441 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 1: Vegas to Atlanta to Cleveland. Ye. Another one had to 1442 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: spend two hours in Detroit. I'm like, you should have 1443 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 1: just driven home, but he's like, it's five o'clock in 1444 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: the morning and I don't even know what time zone 1445 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 1: it is currently, and there's no way I could even drive. 1446 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Everybody had everybody had a layover. Yeah, Like, well, it's 1447 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,759 Speaker 1: really hard to fly out of here. Now it's awful 1448 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 1: to fly out here. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, it used 1449 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 1: to be. I've I've heard people who live over by me, 1450 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 1: a lot of them, some of them drive to Pittsburgh, 1451 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,920 Speaker 1: and I've heard people who live on the West Side. 1452 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 1: We'll go to Detroit to try to do it that way. Yep. 1453 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,759 Speaker 1: Detroit is great to fly in and out of. Yeah, 1454 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 1: and you can fly anywhere. I wonder how Canton Acron 1455 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 1: is Akron Canton. I guess it just depends. Again, a 1456 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of those are the value air carriers. Like I 1457 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 1: love flying Spirit or Frontier out of Cleveland. When I 1458 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 1: go to four Myers it's two hours. I can make 1459 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,679 Speaker 1: myself comfortable for two hours. Yeah, it's amazing. You've never 1460 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 1: had issues either. It's a direct flight, Yeah, you can't 1461 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 1: usually you can't screw that up. Yeah. I feel like 1462 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: if you're going south you can get a lot of 1463 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: good deals out of the Acron Canton airport. That's I 1464 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 1: had a buddy that flew in from Charleston from them. 1465 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 1: It was it was painless. Yeah. So it's just you're 1466 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 1: not flying the major airline carriers, but it's it's one 1467 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,679 Speaker 1: of the lower ones. But if you have enough trust 1468 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,600 Speaker 1: in that for just to go south on it like 1469 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: gives with saying a quick flight, that's yeah, it's a 1470 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,479 Speaker 1: pretty good deal. Quick flights. Fine, I head aliance with 1471 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: the whole. Well, it's like anything though, like you miss 1472 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 1: if you miss a flight, and so with me, I'm 1473 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 1: flying with five if I miss a flight. If you 1474 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 1: miss a flight and it's you and the misses, that's 1475 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: two seats. Yep, you can usually find two seats. Yeah, 1476 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 1: you miss a flight with five, you're done. Man, you're 1477 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 1: breaking your break because everything's oversold. There's no there is 1478 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 1: no path forward there. Let's go rent a car. And 1479 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 1: by the way, I've done the math, seventeen hours from 1480 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:22,640 Speaker 1: Dallas if I have to drive, no thanks? Oh yeah, yeah, 1481 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: all right, guys, little higher or lower complements of Dan 1482 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 1: Hanes Thiss NFL dot com post free agency power rankings 1483 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 1: not really post free agency, but a week into its, right, 1484 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 1: let's go with that, he called a post free agency. 1485 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 1: But I said, well, we're still well under way into this. 1486 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,719 Speaker 1: First and foremost, the Cleveland Browns come in at number 1487 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 1: twenty one. The Panthers, Packers and Rams in front of 1488 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 1: the Browns. Behind the Browns, the Saints, Raiders, Tampa Poisel higher, 1489 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 1: lower or just right? Uh yeah, I'm I'm going higher 1490 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 1: here and better. It's because all the teams that you've 1491 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,120 Speaker 1: mentioned that are in front of the Browns right now. Um, 1492 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 1: I would move the Browns up in front of them. Um. 1493 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you got the Patriots seventeen. Yeah, I mean 1494 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 1: that feels a little high. I'm like that. You know, 1495 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,240 Speaker 1: the Panthers don't have a quarterback right now. The Packers 1496 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback right now. The Rams, they've got 1497 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,639 Speaker 1: a quarterback, but he's all of them was also hurt 1498 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,600 Speaker 1: for most last year. So um, so I and I 1499 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't say the Packers don't have a quarterback. They do 1500 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 1: have Jordan Love, but we still don't know a whole 1501 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 1: lot about what he's going to be able to do 1502 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: with them. So um, yeah, I'm moving the Browns up 1503 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 1: up to I guess it would be number eighteen on 1504 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: this list still. I mean small potatoes, all things considered, right, Uh, 1505 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 1: but that's that's that's where I put them based on 1506 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 1: those three teams in front a list. I just I 1507 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,720 Speaker 1: don't know why Panthers, Packers, Rams all deserve spot in 1508 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,639 Speaker 1: front of them right now. Yeah, I mean that's a joke. 1509 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 1: It's I think the Patriots are gonna suck. Yes, I think, Um, 1510 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers are. You know, they're completely rebuilding. 1511 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 1: The Rams are completely rebuilding. Um, you know, they could 1512 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,840 Speaker 1: trade Aaron Donald by the time this thing's all said 1513 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: and done and that. Honestly, they might be smart to 1514 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 1: do so, m yeah, we should be at here's the deal, though, Man, 1515 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,559 Speaker 1: it's hard to have beef because of how it looked 1516 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 1: for six games, right we had we had this this 1517 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,120 Speaker 1: stretch against Washington that you went, Okay, that's that was 1518 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,160 Speaker 1: in the brochure and you had moments every game where 1519 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 1: you went, gosh, that's why. But you really need to 1520 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: see it stack and so anytime somebody puts us twenty 1521 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,080 Speaker 1: one or whatever, you say, well, gosh, we know we're 1522 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 1: better than that. But at the same time, people got 1523 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,280 Speaker 1: to see it. Yeah, it's been a couple of years, 1524 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 1: you know. Next lower, we are presented by our great 1525 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,519 Speaker 1: friends at the Ohio Lottery. Back to the top of 1526 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 1: the board. Kansas City is number one, number two, the 1527 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles now behind them, the Bengals of three, the 1528 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:08,840 Speaker 1: Bills at four, Bishop Eagles high or lower or just right, Well, 1529 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 1: they can't be higher than Kansas City, obviously they've you know, 1530 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,560 Speaker 1: that's appropriate. I think it's probably the sweet spot for them. 1531 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,760 Speaker 1: I think that the Bengals. The Bengals got better with 1532 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown and they will get better through draft. They 1533 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: have their picks, they're going to sign Burrow to a 1534 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 1: long term extension after the first of April. They'll get 1535 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 1: that thing locked in, so the Bengals will be better. 1536 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 1: But I'm fine with Philly being here. I'm surprised Philly 1537 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: was able to retain all the guys they did. I 1538 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 1: thought it would be a bigger mass exodus there. But 1539 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before on the show. There is 1540 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: some there is some appeal with playing in Philly for 1541 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,679 Speaker 1: NFL guys. There's juice to that place. They loved playing 1542 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,640 Speaker 1: there for whatever reason, and they've had success, so I 1543 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 1: guess that's part of it. But even before they won 1544 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, before they got to the Super Bowl 1545 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 1: this year, free agents would come to Philly fifteen years ago. 1546 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,720 Speaker 1: They just liked playing there. Poiselle, Yeah, that's a good 1547 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 1: point though. Um I think, you know, just making the 1548 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl, even if you don't win, we'll get you 1549 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,680 Speaker 1: a lot of slack in these kind of you know, 1550 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,640 Speaker 1: offseason power rankings. And yeah, it things looked maybe a 1551 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: little bit bleak for the Eagles there that just because 1552 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: they had so many guys on that defense who were 1553 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,120 Speaker 1: going to be free agents and they lost some of them, 1554 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, Javon Hargrave, but one of them. T J. 1555 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 1: Edwards is another. But they still were able to take, 1556 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,439 Speaker 1: you know, get back a lot of good guys like 1557 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 1: Darius Slay, James Bradberry, you know, Fletcher Colox, even though 1558 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,839 Speaker 1: he's definitely one of the older players in the league nowadays, 1559 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: he's uh, he had a great season last year. So 1560 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm fine with where the Eagles are at. I'm I'm 1561 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 1: fine with them still being ahead of the Bengals for sure, 1562 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,680 Speaker 1: just because I think the Bengals they also you know, 1563 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 1: are missing a couple of guys from their defense. Still, 1564 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't see any problem with putting the Eagles at 1565 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: number two here, and that's probably one of the those 1566 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: stay for most of this offseason. Next lower, all right, 1567 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 1: the Bengals were three of the Bills four. It takes 1568 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: us to number five. Still not sure what the quarterback 1569 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,040 Speaker 1: situation looks like, but we know the rest of the 1570 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 1: team's pretty darn good. San Francisco forty nine Ers are 1571 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: number five poisel higher lower or just right by the 1572 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 1: way the Cowboys and Jags follow up the forty nine ers. Yeah, 1573 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely wouldn't put the forty nine ers 1574 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,600 Speaker 1: behind the cowboys of the jag So I'm fine with 1575 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 1: this too. Um, it's just, you know, I feel like 1576 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,639 Speaker 1: we've never really known where to slap this team most 1577 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 1: of the time in that in that top tier because 1578 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 1: of that QB situation, And so that makes five almost fitting. Like, yeah, 1579 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,320 Speaker 1: they're still most likely going to be a very good team, 1580 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 1: but we're again, like you know, in an off season 1581 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,920 Speaker 1: where we're not really sure who they're going to have 1582 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: under center, and in Week one next year it might 1583 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 1: be Sam Donald, And with the way things look with 1584 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: Rock Party, maybe that's this is you know, if he 1585 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,599 Speaker 1: gets that opportunity, Sam Donald, then maybe he has a 1586 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 1: career year or a career start. I don't know. Um, 1587 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,600 Speaker 1: but until we get more clarity about who their QB is, 1588 01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 1: they're not going to be in that like top three, 1589 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 1: and he's in these kind of powerings. I don't think 1590 01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:01,120 Speaker 1: who's eight the Internet Number eight is charged or sore. 1591 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 1: So they have Chargers eight, number nine the New York 1592 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,599 Speaker 1: Football Gym and Baltimore Dolphins, Baltimore's thirteen Dolphins ten. Um, 1593 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 1: I feel like the Dolphins A forty nine ers are 1594 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 1: almost in the same boat. You don't know what the quarterback. 1595 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,000 Speaker 1: The rest of the team's loaded. That's right where I 1596 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,160 Speaker 1: was going. Sorry, so I really like, no, you said 1597 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,839 Speaker 1: it more eloquently than I could. I think the problem 1598 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 1: with San Francisco is, Look, we have this overwhelming belief 1599 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 1: in Kyle. We have an overwhelming belief in their weapons 1600 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 1: and their system and their defense and all of it. 1601 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 1: But it's not even brock Purty like he's coming he's 1602 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,640 Speaker 1: so he's coming off a major injury. They've got Darnald like, 1603 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,400 Speaker 1: they still have Trey Lance that they've got a sort 1604 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 1: out in some way. I don't know what the plan 1605 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 1: is there or is they are they punting on Trey Lance? 1606 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Sure feels that way. Is that what's going on? Like that, 1607 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, no idea what they're doing. Um, it's just 1608 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 1: such an overwhelming belief in Kyle, Like you know, like 1609 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 1: in my gut, I think, like, well, let's do this. 1610 01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 1: If would you rather own, like if you could own 1611 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 1: one of these teams, I'd rather own Jack's Villa in 1612 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 1: the Chargers, not in terms of the value of the franchise, 1613 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,599 Speaker 1: in terms of buying into the future of the roster. 1614 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 1: Give me Lawrence, give me Herbert more than a bunch 1615 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 1: of really talented skill feels like they have more sustainable rosters. 1616 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,479 Speaker 1: It's far more. It's just it's just a such a 1617 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 1: huge bat on Kyle and as brilliance and not the 1618 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,320 Speaker 1: position that it's really really important. But I think it's 1619 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 1: probably fine all that to be said, which that's like 1620 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 1: we've been saying about the Niners, all what are you 1621 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna do? Lower? All right, So we've gone through the 1622 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: top ten, and I still think the Jets are overvalued, 1623 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 1: but I want to go to number eleven because we're 1624 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 1: up against it. The Detroit Lions come in at number eleven. 1625 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,400 Speaker 1: They've met themselves a nice little off season here so far. 1626 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,799 Speaker 1: Bishop higher lower or just right fy? The Giants are twelve, 1627 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: the rat Birds are thirteen, the Seahawks fourteen, and the 1628 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Squealers are fifteen. Ten is Miami, yes, and the Jets 1629 01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,040 Speaker 1: are number nine. I like I think the I think 1630 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Detroit it's right about where they should be. I think 1631 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: you can make an argument if you want to, that 1632 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,200 Speaker 1: they would be as high as ahead of the Jets 1633 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: right now because the Jets, the Jets are too high. 1634 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 1: They do not have Aaron Rodgers, so right now they're 1635 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 1: not a quarterback. So like, yeah, if you want to 1636 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 1: say to yourself, fine, the Jets with Rogers are nine, 1637 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 1: I think that's appropriate right now. They don't have him, 1638 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 1: so the jetse to come down like Jetse to be 1639 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 1: down in the teams middle teams somewhere fifteen to twenty. 1640 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that. It's just ridiculous. We're gonna 1641 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 1: stop pretending that's official. It's not done. Could it done? 1642 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 1: And then fine? Put them nine, But they're not nine now. 1643 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: So I like Detroit better than them right now, and 1644 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 1: I like them better than Miami right now because of 1645 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you could ignore it to his health. 1646 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,560 Speaker 1: They're like the third best team in the NFC. Detroit, Yeah, 1647 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 1: they might be. I was gonna say, I think you 1648 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,679 Speaker 1: could even be Detroit up in front of Miami. Maybe. Yeah, 1649 01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,479 Speaker 1: I think you could make the argument for the Jets too. 1650 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Like I, people seem to be forgetting a little bit 1651 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 1: how hot they finished the season. I think the last 1652 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 1: time I was I was here, we were talking about 1653 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:04,760 Speaker 1: the Lions a few weeks back. I was like, yeah, 1654 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 1: Steam finished like eight and two to end the year. Yeah, 1655 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 1: and they won at Green Bay playing for nothing exactly 1656 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 1: stick it to him. Yeah, and I love that. I 1657 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,160 Speaker 1: love it too. I'm I'm still really excited about the Lions. 1658 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 1: They like you said, Gibbs, They've had a great free 1659 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 1: agency so far. They've got good draft picks coming too. Um. 1660 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 1: I like where the Lions are. I think i'd probably 1661 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 1: put him at number ten at the highest. I don't know. 1662 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 1: They can be inside the top ten. Yeah, all right, 1663 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:32,720 Speaker 1: good job out of you, Good job of do you 1664 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 1: give it? Just so much more to come unless to Cleveland. 1665 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 1: Browns Daily brought to you you by ballet Bet coming soon 1666 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 1: to Ohio and eight fifty Yes in Cleveland. Cleveland Browns 1667 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,439 Speaker 1: Daily brought to you by ballely Bet coming soon to 1668 01:27:46,520 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Do you watch any 1669 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:07,719 Speaker 1: hoops last night? Yoube? I did not, you know I watched. 1670 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the women's tournament. Buckeyes 1671 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:16,520 Speaker 1: one on a buzzer beater, nice and um, Miami beat Indiana. 1672 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 1: I read about that this morning. Yeah, well, the those 1673 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,839 Speaker 1: two twin girls make the most money of any athletes 1674 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 1: in college athletics on nil. The Cavender girls, they play 1675 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 1: for Miami and they're good. The one second team All 1676 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 1: acc but they're they're the wealthiest nil people out there. 1677 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, indeed, all right we are We are 1678 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,720 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. The next level is coming up. Next things 1679 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 1: listened ready Cleveland brons La fifty ESPN Cleveland. You've been 1680 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 1: listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of the Cleveland Browns, 1681 01:28:53,320 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 1: and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland