1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within the 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Star and Frasco. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: Now your hosts, Botch Lombardy, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: Yarish and Kyle Yeomans. 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: Today is Tuesday, February seventeenth, twenty twenty six, and we 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 4: are sixty five days away from the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: Welcome in to the Draft Show presented by Miller Light, 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: The Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Glad you're with us? 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: Ignore that logo in the back of the screen. Fox Lombardi, 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 4: We've got Bobby Belt, Tommy Yarrish, im Kyle Yeomans, Glad 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: you're with us. Of course, the Draft Show presented by 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: Miller Light won and Only Oh Beer of the Dallas. 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 5: Because then people didn't give us money for no this show, 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 5: not for this show. They gave us for the other shows. 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 6: Why yeah, the other show. We love them too. 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: This segment is brought to you by your Texas for Dealers, 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: for it is the best in Texas. 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 6: Gentlemen, How we doing today? 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: Wonderful? Never better kicking it. 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 7: Man. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 8: Never better week away from the NFL combine. 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 6: That's true. You fly out in a week, Bobby, You're 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 6: gonna be out there all week. 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I leave out for the show Monday. 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: I'll be here, but Potcher's gonna be chilling. 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: You'll be physically here at the Star. 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 9: If y'all not here, then no, okay. If we do 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 9: some type of thing where y'all remote and they need 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 9: me here, then cool. But if not, I'm going to 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 9: do some stuff at the crib, which is more than 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 9: likely because what y'all is going for the Senior Ball 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 9: or something like that. 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 8: Yeah. 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, ain't nobody tapping in with me and say, hey, guys, 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 9: just come through for no reason, you know what I mean? 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 6: So, oh, that's that's disappointing. We like having you. 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 5: But I'm a fan of all of you, gentlemen. 40 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 4: I still think you should. You should make a make 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: a trip out to nd What it would be worth it. 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm telling you it's It's the most informational week. 43 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 9: Of the draft process. See information, every bit of info. 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 9: Information is cool, but this is how I do it. 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 9: I'm gonna make some bread at the house because I'm 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 9: gonna cut the camera on. And then when Bobby Belt 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 9: that I listen to every morning, and Tommy Yards i'd 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 9: be following him on the social media's and Kyle Young 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 9: when all y'all come with the information, I get to 50 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 9: react on that show. So that's even new content. You 51 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 9: see what I'm saying. 52 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, so where's our cut? 53 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 5: What you mean? 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 9: What was that you get paid by these fuck You 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 9: got like health insurance by these people don't like you? 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 9: You you good black rifle for the last show and 57 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 9: Ford calls. 58 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 5: You and give you yo much. 59 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I got a ground for mine. 60 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: The next time I get a check from Ford, it. 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: Will be the first one. All right, gentlemen, sixty five 62 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 6: days away. 63 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 4: Like Tommy just said, we were one week away from 64 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 4: the NFL combine. There are some scenarios we've already talked 65 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: about on this show a couple of times, and Bobby 66 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 4: brought this to our attention in the group chat. So 67 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: I want to give him credit for this idea. 68 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 6: But a question there. 69 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 4: There's different ways that between now and the actual NFL 70 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 4: Draft over these next sixty five days, that our vision, 71 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: our look, our needs, the team's needs for the NFL 72 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 4: Draft are going to shift and change because of free agency, 73 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: because of trade possibilities, because of prospects either moving and 74 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: shaking in the NFL Draft. There are a lot of 75 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: different things that can happen that will change our draft 76 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: philosophy until we all sit down here collectively on Night 77 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: one of the draft and say, here's what we're looking at, 78 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: and that's where a lot of those scenarios could play out. 79 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: We've got four scenarios here, and Bobby's the one that 80 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: outline these. I want to put these in order, from 81 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: what I think is most likely to happen to what 82 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: is least likely to happen. 83 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 6: Is how we're going to do it. 84 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: So I'm going to start things off and I'm going 85 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: to say signing a blue chip defensive in. 86 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 6: Is most likely is most likely to happen. 87 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: Go in, let's spend a little money. You'll get yourself 88 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: a badass defensive in. How does that change the way 89 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 4: they you? 90 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 8: Yeah? 91 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 6: No names yet or almost there? 92 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 10: Oh well maybe maybe one guy who got like anotheresterday. Yeah, 93 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 10: we could talk about what we could mention his name. 94 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, but not the disgrown okat on the whist coast. 95 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, not that guy, right, so all of that to say, 96 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: we've got all sorts of uh possibilities with the draft. 97 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: What does that do for your draft thought process? If 98 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: you sign a defensive end like that, how does that change? 99 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 10: So you would already have Aserraku, you would then sign 100 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 10: a blue Chipper. I'm assuming as part of that that 101 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 10: Clowney would be involved, Like retaining Clowney would be potentially 102 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 10: another finger or you know, you've got jams season, whatever 103 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 10: else you need. You need four basically pass rushers, rotational 104 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 10: pass rushers. Yeah, and so adding a blue chipper there, 105 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 10: I think immediately shoots edge rusher out of the first 106 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 10: round for me. Like I just I don't think I'm 107 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 10: I'm pressing for a Mesador at that point from Miami 108 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 10: or you know, Falk at Auburn. 109 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm not that. 110 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 10: There's so many things that need to be filled here, 111 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 10: and if I want to try to make my team 112 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 10: better next year, it's like, all right, well, then I've 113 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 10: put some resources into ed Dresser. 114 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: Now, whether it. 115 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 10: Be resigning Clowney, signing somebody from the outside who's a 116 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 10: Blue chipper, spending a second round pick on Donovan Azeraku 117 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 10: last year, resources are there, and I know I can 118 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 10: rush from the interior. So let's start looking at other things. 119 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 10: If you don't get a blue chipper in free agency, 120 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 10: then I think you are looking at you might have 121 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 10: to throw resources in the first round at edge. 122 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 9: There's not a lot of wiggle room for you at twelve. 123 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 9: It kind of opens up at twenty. So if Ruben 124 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 9: Banin get caught with cocin his trunk and he falled 125 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 9: at twelve and I got a blue chipper, Donavinezeraku, Jadevian Clowney, 126 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 9: nothing is stopping me from draft and Rubin Banin. You 127 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 9: see what I'm saying, he'll just be my fourth guy. 128 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 9: You know what I mean? Like, if like at twelve 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 9: overall have the board goes, downs is going, your corners 130 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 9: are gone, and the best dude is just happened to 131 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 9: be a pass rusher. But I feel like I have 132 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 9: taken care of pass rusher. I'm still gonna get that guy. Now, 133 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 9: you are correct. When I get to twenty, I'm not 134 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 9: looking at how Messador Heighten all those guys, I'm going 135 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 9: to go look somewhere else. But I think like at twelve, 136 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 9: even if you go super at corner, if the best 137 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 9: player at the corner is twelve, it'll make sense to 138 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 9: get that guy or safety or linebacker or whatever. Depends 139 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 9: on how twelve goes, because we're at the back end 140 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 9: of the first round at that point. 141 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, and I mean it 142 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 10: also depends for me anyway. It depends on who it 143 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 10: is that's falling to twelve at that Sure, if Bane. 144 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 5: Falls, that's with Cocing is trunk, That's what I'm saying. 145 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 10: That's the But even if he fell with Cocing is drunk, 146 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 10: I'm still picking something else at that point. 147 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: Like if it's Bailey, sure, if it's Reese, sure. 148 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 10: Because you don't like Bane at twelve or I like 149 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 10: I like Bane, fine, I don't like Bane enough to 150 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 10: then sink resources if I've signed a big time at 151 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 10: rusher and free agency, I don't like him enough to 152 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 10: just say, well, like, that's not Lamb staring you in 153 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 10: the face with the receiver group that you have to anyway, 154 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 10: not not Bane. I like him as the first runder, 155 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 10: I would not like him as just well, I got 156 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 10: to override all my needs because he's just that good Bailey. 157 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: I would Reese, I would so. 158 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 9: In that scenario if this Bane Colden Hood and some 159 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 9: player on offense. 160 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 5: It wouldn't be Bane for you. 161 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 10: I would assume that either at that point, I'm using 162 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 10: twelve as capital to pick up extra picks, yep, and 163 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 10: and move down to eighteen or something, and then I'm 164 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 10: picking at eighteen and twenty and I've got something in 165 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 10: the second round. 166 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 5: But I sure would hope boy that they answered the phone, 167 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 5: you know. 168 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: Because that would be a wipeout scenario proceeded by already 169 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: filling a need. 170 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 10: I mean, depending on who else fell Yeah, because I 171 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 10: mean we could say that Hood like you say Hood 172 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 10: Bane and then somebody on offense. Sure that could be 173 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 10: what you're staring at, but I mean there could still 174 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 10: be somebody else there that has fallen, like Delaine could 175 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 10: be there. But yeah, yeah, yeah, you just you don't know, 176 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 10: you're you're you're waiting around for things fault. I would 177 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 10: be looking to Minnesota. You've got two third round picks 178 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 10: that total up to the jump basically from eighteen to twelve. 179 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 10: You want to turn over two third round picks for 180 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 10: to get up here to twelve to pick somebody. Yeah, 181 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 10: I mean I would be calling about that sort of thing. 182 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 10: That's what i'd been trying to do. 183 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 8: I don't know if I'm alone on this, but if 184 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 8: they get a blue chip d N and free agency 185 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 8: and Baine is staring you in the face, I'm sprinting 186 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 8: to the play. 187 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going, don't you love Baane that much? Right? 188 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 8: Well, that and I don't think you can ever have 189 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 8: enough depth at pass rush at defensive end. I understand 190 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 8: your point. I'm not saying I don't understand your point 191 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 8: of Okay, we need to allocate racers everywhere because our 192 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 8: defense as a hole is not great, But it wouldn't 193 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 8: alleviate so much of the back half of your defense 194 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 8: as if you get home on the quarterback, if they 195 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 8: have guys where you feel like they're going to be 196 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 8: a top ten, top sixteen whatever unit in getting after 197 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 8: the quarterback, pressuring the quarterback, getting the quarterback on the ground, 198 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 8: I'm okay with that because I know that it's gonna 199 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 8: make everybody else in the backstop easier. Does that mean 200 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 8: you don't need to make the necessary moves to fill 201 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 8: those spots. No, that's not what I'm saying. But if 202 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 8: you have depth there, and if you have the three 203 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 8: guys that you have a defensive tackle and you get 204 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 8: four plus two high end pass rushers the defensive ends, 205 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 8: I think you're off to a great start and turning 206 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 8: things around. 207 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 208 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 10: The only thing I would say there is you can 209 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 10: have all the pass rush in the world you want, 210 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 10: generating all the pressure you want. If Kyrie Elam's not 211 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 10: standing where Kyrie Elam's supposed to be, they're still hitting 212 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 10: a touchdown. 213 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: You know, you know what I mean. 214 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 8: And so that's why to me, you have to weigh 215 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 8: the plus and minuses. But I think there's so much 216 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 8: more benefit to have from having a deep pass rush 217 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 8: and a deep defensive line arsenal tour. If you have 218 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 8: that opportunity, I think you absolutely need to say so. 219 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: I think across the board, you guys agree in the 220 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: fact that if you sign a blue chip defensive end, 221 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:46,479 Speaker 4: the short list of names that could be a worthwhile 222 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 4: pick at twelve or twenty trims down significantly. 223 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: You take people one or two names for you. 224 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: It might be three names for Tommy, it might be 225 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: three names for Vatch or whatever it might. 226 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 10: It takes people out of consideration instantly. But like there 227 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 10: are certain people who are exceptions to it's side down 228 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 10: but maybe somebody here, like right now, in this present moment, 229 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 10: I'm comfortable taking him at twenty. Well, if you've got 230 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 10: a Bluechiper now now it's like, well, I don't need 231 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 10: to take the twenty, so he's just out. 232 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: That's part of my consideration in twenty for sure. Interesting. 233 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 9: But twelve, if you got twelve first round grades, you 234 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 9: drafted twelfth overall, like those like guys aren't aren't going 235 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 9: to be there now Now if the Joneses and company 236 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 9: has filled this roster to a ridiculous fashion, ridiculous fast. 237 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 6: I feel like that's gonna be the caveat to anything. 238 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 9: Of course, I'll take mal with Noah, I'll take the 239 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 9: tackle from Miami, I'll take the running back from top 240 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 9: to day weekend party. I just don't feel like the 241 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 9: jones is gonna go that crazy, you know what I'm saying. 242 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 9: So if it's me, I'm trying to get one of 243 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 9: those seven defenders, that I that I you know, one 244 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 9: of those guys. And even if you draft some blue 245 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 9: ship blue chip dude, ship dude, I said, I combined 246 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 9: blue chip and ship blue ship due blue chip like 247 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 9: a smurf ship, I ain't cuts if you if you 248 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 9: sign some some disgruntled pass rush from the West Coast. 249 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 9: I got a disgrown a pass rush from the West 250 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 9: Coast and Ruben Bay, and load it up. 251 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. 252 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 5: But that's just me. 253 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right. 254 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: Second scenario, how about this, you move on from Terrence Steele. 255 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: Moving on from Terrence Steele at right tackle, How does 256 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 4: that change your draft philosophy? 257 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: I got a fast ask, can I go please? 258 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 9: Nothing changes, nothing at all. I'll just roll with Nate 259 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 9: Thomas at right tackle. I'll just move on with my life. 260 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 6: Interesting, I'm gonna move Guidon to right tackle. 261 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 9: Guiding played more left tackle and better at left tackle 262 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 9: than I've ever seen him play right. So I just 263 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 9: don't consider old line the emergency like defense is. I 264 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 9: think defense is a stupid emergency. But you've had the 265 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 9: number one offense in the league with Terror Steel playing 266 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 9: right tackle for you then, or Nate Thomas playing sometimes 267 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 9: for you. I like the idea that your center and 268 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 9: your guards are strongest hell to keep the front of 269 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 9: the packet clean. I think for its fantastic dealing with 270 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 9: nonsense on the edges, we've done with that. I just 271 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 9: feel like if I had to pick where I want 272 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 9: to be real good at. Put those in defense right now, 273 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 9: and it's just not tackle for me. It's just not 274 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 9: like if we had twenty or something. Hey man, Cayden 275 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 9: Proctors around the tackle from Alabama? Could he be a 276 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 9: tackle for you? Nah Man, because I need corner, linebacker, safety. 277 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 5: It is, you know what I mean? So no, none 278 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: change me, Tommy. 279 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 6: I feel like you flinched a little bit whenever he 280 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 6: said that. 281 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 8: I think it makes and I know people are going 282 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 8: to get upset at this, but I think it makes 283 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 8: first round offensive tackle more of a possibility. 284 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: I would agree. 285 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 8: I think you have two guys that I would like 286 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 8: at twelve or twenty, and Malinoa from Miami and Spencer 287 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 8: Fano from Utah that I would be okay with at 288 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 8: one of those picks. I understand the defense is a 289 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 8: glaring need. Trust me. I get that. I had to 290 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 8: watch all seventeen games last year just like everybody else. Yeah, 291 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 8: but I think when you look at if you want 292 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 8: to keep this offense chugging and keep them moving at 293 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 8: the pace they've been, you at least need somebody to 294 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 8: help at your tackle position, because if you let go 295 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 8: of steel, what we know about Steele, hard fact is 296 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 8: that he can help you in the run game. Ye 297 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 8: I and Tyler Booker played very well together in the 298 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 8: run game. If you lose that, then you have a 299 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 8: big question. Is Nate Thomas going to pair with Tyler 300 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 8: Booker like he did? Is anybody if you move getting 301 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 8: over there? Is that going to work like it did? 302 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 8: So much of this offense was predicated on the success 303 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 8: that Javonte Williams had this year. If you have a 304 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 8: question there that that could change a lot of things. 305 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 8: Is it going to throw the entire thing off kilters? 306 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 8: Is gonna be the thirty second best offensive league? No, 307 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 8: not necessarily, but it definitely changes things. If you have 308 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 8: two big question marks a tackle and I think a 309 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 8: guy like Maui no Noah who is unbelievable, and I think, 310 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 8: I think he's incredibly powerful, He's quick, He's going to 311 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 8: be great in the run game. He and Tyler Booker 312 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 8: with some peanut butter, as Vach would say, under their 313 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 8: skin is going to be would be a lot of fun, 314 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 8: but it makes it more of a power. It would 315 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 8: still be difficult, I think, to pull the trigger on 316 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 8: that scenario, because that's the defense is what it is, 317 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 8: but I think it makes it more of a possibility. 318 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 10: I think if you're if you're telling me you're moving 319 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 10: on from Terrence Steele, offensive line becomes that position becomes 320 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 10: just as important as the problems you have on defense. 321 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 10: I And so to me, if you're at that point, 322 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 10: it would have to be Okay, well, did you do 323 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 10: something about it in free agency? Did you did you 324 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 10: find somebody that maybe Clayton Adams or somebody else would 325 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 10: be familiar with to fill that role that might be 326 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 10: out there. And if you didn't, now I'm talking about, 327 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 10: well that you've got to do that in the first round. 328 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 10: I'm almost talking about you have to do it in 329 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 10: the first round at that point, because I just I 330 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 10: think it sends so much turmoil into the offense and 331 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 10: keeping Dak healthy that to me, it shoots way up 332 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 10: the board at that point. And so if you were 333 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 10: to move on for that's one of the reasons why 334 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 10: I don't think they can move on from Steel, even 335 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 10: if they wanted to. Financially, I just I don't think 336 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 10: it makes roster building sense this year. 337 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: If they were going to do it, I doubt they 338 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: would do it without a plan. Sure, And so if 339 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: they're gonna move on from Terrence Steel, there's gonna be 340 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: some level of contingency plan in place, whether that is 341 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: moving Tyler guid in the ride tackle or just addressing 342 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: defense so heavily in free agency that they can get 343 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: to that point in the first round and say, let's 344 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: take our favorite tackle when they come up at twelve 345 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: or twenty and figure it out. 346 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 6: Because I'm right there with you if there's no Terrence Steel. 347 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: And we talked about this heavily on whether or not 348 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: we would move on from Tarrance Steele on Talking Cowboys 349 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: this morning. But if you move on from Terrence Steele, 350 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: then you got to have some level of acquisition because 351 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: you're not riding with Nate Thomas, You're not riding with 352 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: Tyler Guiding with the availability. I think Nate Thomas is 353 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 4: a serviceable tackle, but is he going to be the 354 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: future tackle or somebody that you feel comfortable building around 355 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: on the offensive line. 356 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: You're not just rearranging chairs now. 357 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: There's no way there's gonna be some level of acquisition, 358 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: whether that's a first round pick again, or they're going 359 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: to go and sign somebody in free agency. So I 360 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: think the first scenario where they sign a blue chip 361 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: defensive end and the second scenario of letting Terrence steel 362 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: walk could go hand in hand. They could end up 363 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: being together at some point in time, which means when 364 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: we get to draft day, they've got oh one or 365 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: two significantly better defensive pieces that they've added through free agency, 366 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: to the point where when we get to the first round, 367 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: we get to twelve, and we get to twenty, we 368 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: can look at it and say, maybe we should take 369 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: one of these offensive tackles because they're the best player 370 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: on the board and it's gonna ultimately help our team 371 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: for the future. So then you've got four guys up 372 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: front that you feel really confident in moving forward, and 373 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: we'll see what happens after that. 374 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 5: There's no bigger O line guy than me. 375 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 9: I know if we draft right tackle out of drafting 376 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 9: with a smile, But I've seen Dak Priskott play really 377 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 9: well with cam Flymen, cam Irvin Chumadoga, Tyan Saky, like 378 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 9: I've seen bad tackle play here and it kind of 379 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 9: work out. 380 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 6: I think you've also seen Dak hurt consistently. 381 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 5: The Gang will be the game. The Gang gonna be 382 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: the game. 383 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: Game is the game, But I would rather take I 384 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: would rather take chances on protecting him. 385 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 6: So how about letting it happen. 386 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 9: Let's get a good defense, a week of whoop teams 387 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 9: early and decond't got to play a four four. 388 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 5: That's how you saved that. 389 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 6: I'm good either way up. 390 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: All right, what about this scenario Javonte Williams signs elsewhere 391 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: in free agency, he does not return to the Dallas Cowboys, 392 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: and now you have a question market running back. 393 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: Does not change the first round for me, It changes 394 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: Day three consistently. 395 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 396 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 10: If if Javonte Williams is going to be gone, I'm 397 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 10: now looking at sort of the same area as that 398 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 10: last year. Okay, well, let me look for some value 399 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 10: free agents and let me also look for a Day 400 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 10: three option. But right now, as it stands down, I 401 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 10: don't want, I don't need to draft a running back 402 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 10: at all. If they let Davonte Williams walk, it now 403 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 10: complicates what I'm looking at on day three. 404 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: I think, if you feel confident you can find a 405 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: Day three running back in this class, not to replace Davonte, 406 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 4: because that would be unfair expectations for wherever that might be. 407 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 10: Man Cee and they've got such a tough track record 408 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 10: in the last few drafts of saying we'll get it 409 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 10: on day three. 410 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 6: Yep, and then getting wiped out before it not. 411 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, getting wiped out or having to go a little 412 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 10: early because of that. You may be looking at a 413 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 10: similar situation there where you're just having to take somebody 414 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 10: a little earlier. But I would imagine if if they 415 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 10: were to lose Javonte Williams, I would bet a veteran 416 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 10: gets signed and somebody else gets drafted. 417 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. Let's say they do make 418 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 4: some moves and defense or on the defense, and then 419 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 4: Javonte Williams walks. Does that increase the possibility of trading 420 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: back and picking up top one hundred selections, whether that's 421 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: at twelve or twenty or whatever you want to use 422 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: for that, to try and get back in the second 423 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: round in the third round, to possibly draft a running 424 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 4: back that you see either as falling or that you 425 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: like and you want to go and get him. Does 426 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: that make it more of a possibility. 427 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 9: If I could force a team to give me picks, 428 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 9: WHOA do it? We'll do it every time. If I 429 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 9: could force a team to give me some picks, you know, 430 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 9: what I'm saying, I just don't know how attractive my 431 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 9: picks are to other teams, you know what I mean. 432 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 9: So I try not to even think about trade down's 433 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 9: for real, But sure we have some more picks. Honestly, 434 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 9: just looking at the running back class or whatever, man, 435 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 9: you could probably get away with some date three guys, 436 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 9: and the Cowboys probably got confidence that they can find 437 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 9: some dude off the street or some undrafted Rico Daldo 438 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 9: type and be like, hey, this is going to be 439 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 9: the guy that we rode with and we'll be fine 440 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 9: with scheme and offensive line, you know what I'm saying. 441 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 9: So they'll probably just resigned Rico or something draft the 442 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 9: dude run with Blue. 443 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 8: I think you can find a guy in free agency. 444 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 8: I think the success that they had this year with 445 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 8: Davonte Williams is going to give them the confidence to say, 446 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 8: if we lose him, we can find our next Javonte 447 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 8: Williams of sorts. 448 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: And again they've done it for a decade. 449 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, they can plug and play and you can move 450 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 8: that same same thing. Really, I think you could say 451 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 8: the same thing for if they move on from Steel, 452 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 8: could to say that they don't go into free agency 453 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 8: because they're like, hey, we need to use these first 454 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 8: round picks on defense. 455 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 6: That's part of the plan. 456 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 8: They guy, is it more difficult to find an offensive 457 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 8: linean and a. 458 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 10: Free agency or spending though, Yeah, if you're going to 459 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 10: free agency for a tackle, you're gonna spend. 460 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 8: You're gonna spend. Unless on the table, yeah, unless you 461 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 8: want somebody that's not as high caliber. But nonetheless I 462 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 8: think that they for running back specifically, I think that 463 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 8: that's that's what they would probably do. 464 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: And then the final scenario, the least likely I think 465 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: of the four, but still likely or not likely, let's 466 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: say it's still on the table, still possible, is the 467 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: trade of George Pickens. 468 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 6: We talked about this nightmare scenario. A couple shows back. 469 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 4: But if they do tag and trade Pickens into a 470 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 4: second round pick or whatever it may be, it sounds like, 471 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: what that that's what the league would value Pickens at? 472 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: Would that be the value that you would use to 473 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: turn into what Bobby. 474 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 10: So see, that's that's the biggest one of me is 475 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 10: because everybody who's talked about the scenario has then said, well, 476 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 10: then you have to draft a receiver, and I'm saying no, 477 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 10: if I'm if I'm making that decision and you're not 478 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 10: moving on from Pickens other than just you're looking at 479 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 10: resources and you're saying, I've got to turn that. I 480 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 10: like him, but I got to get resources some other things. 481 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 10: At that point, to me, I'm only making that move 482 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 10: because I'm so thin on defense. 483 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: I need resources to throw it in. 484 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 10: So if I'm making that move to go get that 485 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 10: extra pick I'm not paying. A lot of people have 486 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 10: seen him said, well, then you're taking a receiver in 487 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 10: the first round. I said, nope, No, I'm making that 488 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 10: move because I need to go get I need more 489 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 10: defenders in the top one hundred. 490 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 4: And you're probably confident that you can either sign somebody in. 491 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: Free sign somebody to go along with Flinoy. 492 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 6: And Llinoy and CD. 493 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and hope that the step that Flinoy took last 494 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 4: year was enough to kind of cant that. 495 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 10: That you would that would be if they were to 496 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 10: make that sort of a move. That is also a 497 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 10: vote of confidence in what they saw in Flinoy. 498 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 499 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Vatch doesn't like that move at all. 500 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 5: Just just just sign peak. 501 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 6: I'm good with it too. 502 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 9: The Draft Show veteran Jeff Kavanaugh side of him. He 503 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 9: says some five eight years ago, to just stuck with me, 504 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 9: he said, don't get worse on purpose. 505 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 5: Just don't get worse on purpose. 506 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, So you don't mind if 507 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 9: you go, all right, we can move on from Piggins 508 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 9: and draft whoever. 509 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: Are you getting worse on purpose? 510 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 5: Though? 511 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 10: I feel you're downgrading a position group. But if you're 512 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 10: saying it gives me more resources to throw at defense 513 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 10: and I'm getting better on defense. 514 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 9: That may be my team is better. See I'm I'm 515 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 9: in cowboy land right now. So if you don't give 516 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 9: me pickings, you got to guarantee me a top five defense. 517 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 9: I don't think that was gonna do that. I just 518 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 9: don't think that they're gonna take that money and do 519 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 9: right by it. I don't know what they're gonna do 520 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 9: with it. I just feel more advice. Would you rather 521 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 9: pickings in this defense or no pickings? And dah dah 522 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 9: da dah man. I don't even want to. I just 523 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 9: signed a guy. Resign them so we can move on 524 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 9: to big and better things. 525 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 8: Please, I too, am of the opinion that you resigned. 526 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 8: George Pickens. The thing that I continue to think about, 527 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 8: and kind of similar to Bobby's point is does this 528 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 8: team look at this situation and say, we have a 529 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 8: whole lot of money invested in the offense and we 530 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 8: do not have a lot of money invested in the defense, 531 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 8: and do we need to balance that out more to 532 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 8: give ourselves a chance? Again, be very clear, I'm in 533 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 8: favor of bringing back George Pickens too. I could see 534 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 8: a world where they say, look, we need we need 535 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 8: more balance here. If we can move that, get some 536 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 8: draft capital, whether it be a second round pick, whatever, 537 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 8: brown pick, you want to make it, and continue to 538 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 8: build this defense up, and you use the draft like 539 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 8: this to really try and hit on these guys consecutively 540 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 8: to where you can build this unit up and add 541 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 8: the necessary free agents. I think that you have guys 542 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 8: in place in Seedy Lamb, especially a lot of people 543 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 8: forget how good seedy Lamb is. This is a really 544 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 8: good player. And you know, Ryan Fanoi took a big 545 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 8: step this year, as that means he's wide receiver too automatically, 546 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 8: I don't know. I would like to see a little 547 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 8: bit more before we just start throwing that label around. 548 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 8: Can you get a guy in free agency maybe can 549 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 8: you get a guy in third round of the draft. 550 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 8: If you get a third round pick, maybe if you 551 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 8: move on from Pickens, you're not going to get another Pickens. 552 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 8: I don't think. I think that's very sad to say. 553 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 6: Can't you can't? 554 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 8: Are you confident that this offense can still be good 555 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 8: without him? Would be would be the question that I 556 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 8: would pose. But again, I'm I'm still in favor. 557 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 10: But I would also say that the Pickens they got, 558 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 10: I don't know if they thought they were getting that 559 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 10: Pickens either. 560 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 6: If they thought that, they would have traded a whole 561 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 6: lot more than what Yeah. 562 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 10: Like, I think they thought they were getting a player 563 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 10: with upside and the player that they liked. I don't 564 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 10: think they had any clue he was going to break 565 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 10: out the way he did. 566 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a all four of those are possible. 567 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 6: Those four scenarios. 568 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: If you had to choose one that you feel like 569 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 4: is the most likely scenario, which one would it be? 570 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 4: Out of the four? Either drafting a blue or signing 571 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 4: a blue chip defensive end, trading George Pickens, Javonte Williams walking, 572 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: or Dallas. 573 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 6: Letting go of Tennis Steel. 574 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 9: The running back maybe may be more likely, but they 575 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 9: talk to these people now, so I mean, unless they 576 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 9: played hordball with them, I don't know. I think I 577 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 9: think the running back is the easiest to kind of 578 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 9: deal with if you lose them. 579 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 5: So I was I would say running. 580 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: You said likely likeliest of those happening. I don't. I 581 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna lose Javonte Williams. They could. I think. 582 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 10: I don't think they're gonna move Pickings. I just I 583 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 10: can't believe they're going to willingly create a hole at 584 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 10: right tackle. So to me, it would be signing the 585 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 10: blue chipper, because I do think they're going to sign somebody. 586 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 6: I think I'm kind of right there with you. 587 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: Most likely most likely out of those four, if it's 588 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: a multiple choice test. 589 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: I think least likely is signing the top tier pass 590 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 5: roads guy. 591 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 6: Like really, so you're saying that's the least likely, Oh, I. 592 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 10: Think like a top five guy in the league available 593 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 10: free agents that are out there at I think if 594 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 10: they're if you're well, I can't name who there, but 595 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 10: I'm just saying, if you were to look at these 596 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 10: are the five top edge rushers in free agency, I 597 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 10: think they're coming away. So one of the top okay, yeah, 598 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 10: one of the top five available in free. 599 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: Ageah, you're not going to go and get a guy 600 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 4: that's under contract in trade for a guy when I'm. 601 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 9: Thinking, like when I'm thinking blue Chip or like a 602 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 9: dude that broke the sack record or something, or do 603 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 9: is Man as Hell somewhere or one of those type 604 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 9: guys or some guy that just left here, like when 605 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 9: I think blue but one of the better pass rushes 606 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 9: in it. 607 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 6: See what you're saying, Yeah, I could do that. 608 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 609 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: Still there's still people who maybe check off. 610 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: Box maybe, but ultimately a top a top available eder. 611 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 8: Yeah. Man, yeah, we go on U. 612 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 5: Yeah that's likely. 613 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, Okay, I would be caught between that or moving 614 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 8: on from Steel. Okay, leaning more towards moving on from Steel. 615 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: I think that is the least desirable of all the 616 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: four options. 617 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 8: Desirable is a different story, I. 618 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: Know, but desirable. 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Daniel Jeremiah had the Cowboys potentially 686 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: trading the twentieth pick for a guy. 687 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 6: We're just gonna say, since Daniel. 688 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 4: Jeremiah reported it, we're not like tampering or anything here 689 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: it's off of a report, it's off of an article. 690 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: Trump mcduffy would be the trade target, and then the 691 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: Cowboys would trade take Jermal McCoy out of Tennessee at twelve. 692 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: So they're attacking the secondary with two selections there. Let's 693 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 6: just say, let's take McDuffie's name out of it. 694 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: Let's say you trade for a veteran corner, the blue 695 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: chip veteran at one at that position, and then you 696 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: turn around you take Jermal McCoy at twelve as well. 697 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 4: How do you feel like double dipping in the cornerback 698 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: draft at cornerback in the draft? Would you rather have 699 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: positions of need instead of double dipping with both of 700 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 4: your first two picks at corner? 701 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 9: When Stephen Jones came out and said our core players 702 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 9: are the tackles, the one linebacker in the two corners, 703 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 9: what does that mean to y'all? Like, does that mean 704 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 9: we not looking at corner? Were looking at one more corner. 705 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 9: We're looking to revamp the whole cornerback room. Because adding 706 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 9: two premium corners to what Steven Jones would say, and 707 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 9: I believe when he says it, adding two premium corners 708 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 9: to what your core is which onas you know what 709 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 9: I'm saying, Like, I don't know how I feel about 710 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 9: four corners, and I ain't got no linebackers or safeties. 711 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, I wouldn't know how to feel, 712 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 9: you know, when I got a whole bunch of more 713 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 9: needs in doubling down. 714 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: On something, you know what I mean? 715 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 10: So I would I would assume at that point linebacker 716 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 10: and safety are free agent targets. 717 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 6: You'd have to write. But what would that tell you about? 718 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 10: It's a lot that you just gave Bland an extension, 719 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 10: used a third on Revel and they were to do that. 720 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: It's a lot of resources. 721 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: And that would that would tell me they aren't confident 722 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: in either one of those guys. Yes, if they're going 723 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 4: to spend two first round picks at the same position, 724 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: that means they are worried about Bland and they are worried. 725 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: About I think. 726 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 10: We talked about this, I think last year when they 727 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 10: were looking at hiring Connor Riley, when they were looking 728 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 10: at hiring Clayton Adams. I think a big part of 729 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 10: it was, Hey, Terrence Steele's here right now. Okay, I'm 730 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 10: not doing anything about that. Just financially. It's another thing. 731 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 10: What are you going to do to make it better? 732 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 10: How are you gonna make it better? What's your playing 733 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 10: to make it better? And somebody would have an advantage 734 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 10: when they had a roadmap to make that better, make 735 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 10: Terence Steel play better. I think similarly, Jerry could not 736 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 10: talk about Savonne Revel enough throughout the regular season before 737 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 10: he got there. 738 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: That's true. I think when. 739 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 10: They talked to Christian Parker and when they talk to 740 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 10: anybody else, I think one of the things that came 741 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 10: up was what are you going to do about Revel? 742 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 10: What are you going to do to make Revel better? 743 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 744 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 10: How are you going to make him tap into this? 745 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 10: Because he's here, We've sunk resources into him. It's early 746 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 10: that needs to work. 747 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 6: So we saw a first round corner before the injury that. 748 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: So man, I would yeah, I would be pretty stunned. 749 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 10: I guess it's not impossible, but I'd be pretty stunned 750 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 10: if they were to trade the twentieth for a veteran 751 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 10: corner and then draft one, especially when who has not played, 752 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 10: you know, in the last calendar year or two, to 753 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 10: draft him at twelve and McCoy, Yeah, who. 754 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 8: Is getting after the quarterback? Is it us? Are we 755 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 8: going to play defensive end? 756 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm not playing You can scheme up pass rush. 757 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 8: How'd that worked last year? 758 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: Was good? 759 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 760 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 8: They were great. 761 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: You don't play defensive unfortunately, there's there's there's five offensive linemen. 762 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 8: No, I wouldn't be a fan of that. I don't 763 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 8: think that. I think they're sky high on Revel and 764 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 8: I think he's gonna be a really good player too. 765 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 8: If you ever guess that brace off, which I pray 766 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 8: that he does, I would understand one corner in the 767 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 8: first round, or you use your capital to trade for 768 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 8: another corner. I would get that if you could get 769 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 8: a proven guy that you know is going to help 770 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 8: the secondary and kind of be the core piece of it. Yeah, 771 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 8: but two yeah, No, I think you have too much 772 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 8: that you need on defense. 773 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 9: Can I ask you a question twenty Okay, So, with 774 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 9: the way that the league is moving with these big 775 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 9: nickel safety guys, Christian Parking maybe leaning in that direction 776 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 9: as well, do you think this team needs more corners 777 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 9: or more safeties. 778 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 10: This team, I think yes, If you tell me yes, 779 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 10: they need everything. If you tell me I can get 780 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 10: an elite player at one position, and where I think 781 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 10: it makes the most difference for this defense. 782 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: I think it's safety. 783 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 10: If you get me a Caleb Downs, or you get 784 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 10: me somebody to do and this is I can mention 785 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 10: somebody for what they do for another team, right, not acquiring. 786 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 10: If you get somebody to do what Cooper Degen does 787 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 10: and did for Christian Parker, that changes the entire Listen 788 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 10: how much shod he could not stop talking about leading 789 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 10: up to the Chargers game, how valuable Derwin James was 790 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 10: and what he did for them, and the way Nate 791 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 10: Newton has always argued for Darren Woodson to be in 792 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 10: the Hall of Fame. M the line of we didn't 793 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 10: have sub packages. We had Darren Woodson. Darren was the 794 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 10: sub package. He would change what we would do on defense. 795 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 10: There's tremendous value in finding a really verse, subtle safety. 796 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 9: If I'm listening to the CEO of the Dallas Cowboys, 797 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 9: he talks about the core brother Steve and them, and 798 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 9: he mentions two corners, but he'll mention no safeties. I 799 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 9: think it'll make sense to be like, all right, you're 800 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 9: probably gonna need two of your high safeties and one 801 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 9: of your nickel type versual dudes like Bobby was talking 802 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 9: about one them type casts or whatever. I think that 803 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 9: they're more likely to tul up at safety than corner 804 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 9: for real, because they they've mentioned that they got corners 805 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 9: in their mind, they got corners. 806 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: Uh, this question is specifically for our guy, Tommy yarrish me. 807 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, why about that? 808 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: Tommy? Why do you put ketchup on your hot. 809 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 8: I'm just gonna I'm never eating around Bobby again. 810 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 4: Morgan wants to know. Morgan said, new Texas Longhorn fan here, 811 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 4: brand new, You got the T shirt question for Tommy? 812 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 4: Who is a longhorn that you'd like to see the 813 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 4: Cowboys draft this year. 814 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 8: I'll be honest, I don't have a lot of them. 815 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: Watch the Olympics while you answer that question, you don't 816 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 4: want to talk about the Texas Longhorn. 817 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 5: No, they asked for time. I'm just gonna watch the Olympics. 818 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 6: What sport are you watching over here? 819 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 5: Uh? Sliding down ice? 820 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: Okay, shoot, it's pretty much all of Okay, that's a 821 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: little different, but the. 822 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 6: First part of its sports, the whole the whole Olympics. 823 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 5: Nice and shoot. 824 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think a guy that could make sense for 825 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 8: them is is Anthony Hill, the linebacker from Texas sixty 826 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 8: three two thirty eight. You're you're gonna get a guy 827 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 8: who is an incredible athlete. I remember covering him at 828 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 8: Dent Ryan High School and he was playing a running 829 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 8: back at some point. I think the first player I 830 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 8: ever saw him was a seventy yard touchdown where he'd 831 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 8: lined up as a wildcat quarterback just took at the distance. 832 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 8: I think he was really well north and south. He's 833 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 8: got a good nose for diagnosing things in the run game, 834 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 8: usually in the right spot at the right time. But 835 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 8: there are certain flashes in his tape where you do 836 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 8: kind of wonder like, okay, do we feel like it's 837 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 8: all there in terms of seeing what's in front of them? 838 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 8: I think, you see, it's just kind of a mixed bag. 839 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 8: Maybe I shouldn't say good nose, but it's a mixed 840 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 8: bag at times. But he is the athlete that can 841 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 8: be able to step up playing the run game well, 842 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 8: really effective as a blitzer, got seventeen career sacks, knack 843 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 8: forgetting the ball out, a'st force, eight forced fumbles, three 844 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 8: picks in his career. I wouldn't say he's good in coverage, 845 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 8: especially against those quicker players over the middle. But I 846 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 8: think he's got the he's got the right measurables for 847 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 8: the position, and I think he is a player that 848 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 8: is going to be better than what you have currently 849 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 8: in your in your room. 850 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 6: All right, same question, but for twenty twenty seven from. 851 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 8: Me Colin Simmons. Oh, oh my goodness. 852 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 6: I figured that would be easy. Yeah, that's that's way 853 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 6: to either him or arch Manning who Archman. 854 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 10: No, Colin, Yeah, but Colin Simmons is different. 855 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: That's a slam. 856 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 8: Yeah. 857 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 6: Is it possible he goes top five next year? 858 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 8: Absolutely? 859 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 6: Like top three? 860 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it's possible. Yeah, I mean he's going to be. 861 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 8: I mean, god, well, actually top three because you got Smith. 862 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 10: Next year is going to be Next year's gonna have 863 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 10: a lot of really big time yeah, big edge rushers, 864 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 10: quarterbacks like big time position, so I know. But I 865 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 10: mean he's he's one hundred. If he was in this draft, oh, 866 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 10: he'd be top three. 867 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he'd probably be two behind me, he would be two. Yeah, 868 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 4: he'd be right there. Colin Simmons ed rusher from Texas 869 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 4: watching him. 870 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 5: He's really only focus on one draft at a time. 871 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 5: But I got you, dude. 872 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 4: If you watch a Texas defensive tape period. 873 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 10: Yeah, if you're watching, if you're watching offensive line tape 874 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 10: on somebody going up against Texas, you'll notice Colin Sims. 875 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's nasty, all right. 876 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 4: Andrew wants to know, are we overthinking Delaane? Of course 877 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: we Mansour Delayne LSU corner seems like a fine prospect 878 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 4: in the draft of maybe's, like in a draft of 879 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 4: maybe's and had a position of. 880 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 6: Need the cornerback spot. 881 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 4: Are Cowboys fans, not us in general, but our Cowboys 882 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: fans overthinking Mansur Delaine out of LSU. 883 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 9: Teams took a drafting. I think fans got to do 884 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 9: it right, just like the fans normally. 885 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 6: And what would that be? 886 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 5: I don't care to be five eleven. 887 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 9: And I think teams have him right too, Yeah, I 888 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 9: mean yeah, they probably love him too. 889 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 890 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: I think I think the league does really like montsort 891 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: de Lance. 892 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 5: I have heard some people go with the miserable can't 893 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 5: he play? You know what I'm saying? 894 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 9: And I think most people, most qualified people because I 895 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 9: only listen to a bunch of people that just be 896 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 9: saying nonsense. Most people that I've heard are pretty high 897 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 9: on month should lank. Now, if you want to make 898 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 9: an argument that we're delusional thing that he'll fall to twelve, 899 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 9: because he's clearly a top five type guy, and that's 900 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 9: a conversation for you. 901 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I don't think he'll be there at twelve. 902 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 11: Four. 903 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 6: You think he's a top five gay. 904 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 5: Like ghost, top five like drafted top five different. I 905 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 5: don't know he you know, you know, I don't know. 906 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 6: I think he's a top five player in this draft. 907 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 9: I think he could be drafted top five because he's 908 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 9: a corner or the best corner. He might end up 909 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 9: being like the eighth, seven or eight or something. 910 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 10: He might be one of the five most I don't 911 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 10: know that it's like he's a top five talent or anything. 912 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 10: He might be one of the five most consistent players 913 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 10: that we're talking about in the first round. Like you 914 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 10: feel like, hey, I know what he is and I 915 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 10: know what he can do. The biggest problem with him 916 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 10: obviously is you know, they're going to be questions in 917 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 10: general about yeah, some of the the speed and questions 918 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 10: about his his size limitations. But I mean, he's the 919 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 10: tape is really good. He just he is a really 920 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 10: solid cornerback who to me, I think that and I 921 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 10: think the upside is still high here. But I think 922 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 10: there's a lot of Jordan Lewis type of traits there 923 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 10: in terms of physical willing to get involved, can you know, 924 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 10: play inside. I think could probably hang outside just like 925 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 10: Jordan could. He just was not asked to do a 926 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 10: lot of it. Could hang outside, could play inside, and 927 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 10: is willing to do the physicality. But Jordan was five 928 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 10: ten one ninety and ran a four to five, and 929 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 10: it was like, well, that doesn't look like the profile 930 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 10: of a corner who's going to stick around very long, 931 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 10: but he he was able to. I think I think 932 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 10: if Delanne is a higher upside Jordan Lewis. 933 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 8: I think Delaanne is a similar thing between those two guys. 934 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 8: They're super smart. They're very smart players, and I think 935 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 8: it's evident in what you see on film. I thought 936 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 8: Delanne was the best corner in the country in this 937 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 8: draft class. Since we're not talking about other classes, I'll 938 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 8: refrain from him. I really thought it was the best 939 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 8: corner of the country. But in this class, I think 940 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 8: he's a top ten player. For me, he's right at 941 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 8: number ten. Just like Bobby said, the tape, talked very loudly. Yeah, man, 942 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 8: he was great. When the ball is in his area, 943 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 8: he just does an excellent job of being able to 944 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 8: knock it away, limit penalties, gets to the ball quickly, 945 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 8: is a willing tackler. I like Delane a lot. 946 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 4: I'm hearing the voice of Brian brought us in my 947 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 4: head saying that a lot of these players have Nicks 948 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 4: and Wartz. 949 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 6: At the top of the draft. 950 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 4: These guys that you are saying that they're top ten players, 951 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 4: and the more that the guys that don't have warts 952 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 4: are going to start to rise to the top and 953 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 4: they're going to start to be there. I'm with you, guys, 954 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 4: I think he's a top ten player in this draft. 955 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 4: I haven't stacked my board entirely, but I bet she's 956 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: going to be eight, nine to ten something right there 957 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 4: at the back end of the top ten, which means 958 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 4: for me, if a team's going to take him in 959 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 4: the top five or six picks at that spot in 960 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 4: that position, wouldn't. 961 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 6: Shock me even in the slightest. He's a really good player. 962 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 6: All right, when we come back, I've got some this 963 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 6: or that. 964 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 4: How about we're going to attack some two positions on offense, 965 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 4: two positions on defense. I'm going to stack a couple 966 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 4: guys that I'm even having trouble evaluating in a couple 967 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 4: different areas of who to rank higher than who, and 968 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 4: I want to get your opinion on where you would 969 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: see them fall one way or the other one. 970 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 6: We return with more of the draft show right after. 971 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 14: This, Cowboys fans. 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Yeah he played 1022 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 10: football there, Yes he did. 1023 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 8: I'll go see Shaboozy if any all want to come. 1024 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 6: Dude, I would love that you you were going to 1025 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 6: be busy that weekend. 1026 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 4: You'd be busy April twenty fourth through the twenty six 1027 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 4: And while you're out there, you can listen. 1028 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 6: To our wall to wall draft coverage because the NFL 1029 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 6: Draft happens that weekend. 1030 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 8: Can we get Shaboozy on the draft show? 1031 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 6: Dude? I would? I would have a blast that great. 1032 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife, My wife might have to drive up here. 1033 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 4: She loves Chuboozi, like that's her favorite country artist. 1034 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 10: Right now, I trust that Rocks could run him down. 1035 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 4: I mean, she's just go grab the scouts and then 1036 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 4: just go find us what she does. 1037 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, if we if we said Rocks, can we get 1038 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 10: Shabbooze five minutes later, she'd. 1039 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 6: Have right, she just grabbed it. I saw him in 1040 00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 6: the parking somehow. 1041 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 4: You said what I think he may be a Commanders 1042 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 4: He's a Commander's fan, forget about it. 1043 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 7: He was in the commander's booth, I believe at one 1044 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 7: of the game. 1045 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 6: Interesting think maybe he want to share for the Cowboys game. 1046 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 6: But he was in the owners booth for the Commanders, 1047 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 6: so that'd be kind of maybe. 1048 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he's a Titans fan because they're in Nashville. 1049 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 5: All right. 1050 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 4: Voch Lombardi, Bobby Belt, Tommy Arish, Chris Beam, in the 1051 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 4: back of Kyle Yeomans. 1052 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 6: I've got some this or that. A couple of scenarios. 1053 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 4: These are guys that I have that are right next 1054 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 4: to each other on my draft board as I'm trying 1055 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 4: to like piece together. They actually all four of these 1056 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 4: scenarios have tied. 1057 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 6: Grades for me. 1058 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 4: They are exactly the same grades. So I want you 1059 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 4: to get to help me break a tie here with 1060 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: these four. I'm gonna start on the offensive tackle spot. Tommy, 1061 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 4: you mentioned this name earlier, Spencer Fano, Utah offensive tackle. 1062 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 4: You mentioned him when we were talking about the scenarios 1063 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 4: in the first segment. Spencer Fano or Jennings Dunker out 1064 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 4: of Iowa, Fano from Utah for me. 1065 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 6: So you you mentioned that, and. 1066 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 4: I expect that because I mean, he's got a lot 1067 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 4: of Yeah. 1068 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he's one of the first round players. 1069 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 8: For me, I think he's the more athletic. You have 1070 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 8: a first Yeah, he's the more athletic of the two 1071 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 8: top tackles in this cluss. You think about Mali Noa 1072 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 8: just a straight, you know, physical, run through your face, 1073 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 8: powerful guy, whereas Fino's got a little bit more athleticism 1074 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 8: to him for his size, a little bit thinner as 1075 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 8: well at three h two sixty six. I think he 1076 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 8: moves well in the run game, but I think he's 1077 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 8: stronger in past checks just because he can get that 1078 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 8: kick out to get out there just just straight up 1079 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 8: just didn't give up sacks at Utah they had a 1080 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 8: really good offensive line in general. So he's got that 1081 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 8: that slimmer frame, whereas Mali goes more compact and you know, powerful. 1082 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 8: But I think in the right right offense, he can 1083 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 8: be a really good player. 1084 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 6: Okay, Fox, what do you think. 1085 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 9: I think Dunker is a guard. I think the lead 1086 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 9: probably gonna look at him that way. So a day 1087 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 9: two guard versus Fino, who's probably gonna go top twelve 1088 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 9: or something. I would assume we're top fifteen at least, 1089 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 9: I would put Fano over Dunker. 1090 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, if you've evaluated him at guard, he's still Dunker. 1091 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 5: Nice. 1092 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean because he he he doesn't have the 1093 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 9: range to fully play tackle. In my opinion, even though 1094 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 9: he doesn't have the range, I think he's dealt with 1095 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 9: his with his you know, whether it be Pints State 1096 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 9: or Ohio State. Like, he's played some dudes and he's 1097 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 9: dealt with it. 1098 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 6: He won a lot of those battles. 1099 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 5: He's won those battles good tape. 1100 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 9: I just think on the next level they're gonna value 1101 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 9: more of his power and his nastiness in the wrestling 1102 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 9: in a in a phone booth, and if he's cool 1103 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 9: enough range wise at tackle, that makes him a semi 1104 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 9: athletic guard. So I think he's gonna be I have 1105 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 9: them both as like an early second just to be yeah. 1106 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think uh Fano's the better player. I think 1107 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 10: Dunker will probably end up being the better value where 1108 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 10: he gets picked for sure, And I agree. I think 1109 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 10: I think Dunker's got to go inside the athleticism, he's 1110 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 10: just not there. The movement skills just aren't there to 1111 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 10: play tackle to keep guys in front of him consistently 1112 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 10: enough at the next level, and even playing inside of 1113 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 10: the guard, he's probably gonna have some issues with some 1114 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 10: of the quicker three technique pass rushing defensive tackles. But man, he's, 1115 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 10: like Voch said, football and a phone booth guy, like 1116 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 10: using power and leg drive to clear space. I think 1117 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 10: he's going to be really good there. Fano's a really 1118 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 10: good athlete and there's a lot to really like about him. 1119 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 10: There's definitely for me play strength questions with Fano. I 1120 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 10: mean Gosh, if Brian we're here right now would be saying, 1121 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 10: you know me a kid with these athletic light tackles. 1122 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 10: So I'm always going to be wrong about him. He 1123 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 10: needsdad bulk. He's got to improve his hand usage in 1124 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 10: pass protection. And even with the athleticism, he does not 1125 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 10: have a lot of answers when inside moves hit nope, 1126 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 10: And so that's a big problem with him. But I mean, 1127 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 10: I think Fano's a good player. I have him the second, 1128 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 10: I have Dunker in the third. I think Dunker's going 1129 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 10: to go closer to where I have him than Fanos. 1130 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 10: I think Dunker would be the better value. 1131 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 6: Interesting wide receiver. 1132 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 4: Widely regarded as the top two wide receivers in this draft, 1133 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 4: and I think it's a battle between the two whether 1134 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 4: you like one thing or the other. 1135 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 6: Jordan Tyson Arizona State or Carnell Tate out of Ohio State, 1136 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 6: who do you have higher? 1137 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 9: I personally value rout runners more. I love route runners. 1138 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 9: I love yet guys, and Jordan Tyson fits that more. 1139 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 9: Tate it seems like he's more physically imposed and he's 1140 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 9: interesting too, because I don't look at Tita's fast guy. No, 1141 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 9: he got film running past people, which is interesting, but 1142 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 9: you clearly see Jordan Tyson running pass on away from people. 1143 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 9: So if we're not account for guys getting hurt, which 1144 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 9: I normally don't, Tyson is my number one guy and 1145 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,479 Speaker 9: Tit is my third. 1146 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 5: But I got ones on both of them. 1147 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 6: Okay, two do you have in between? Sorry? 1148 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 5: Limits? 1149 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,720 Speaker 8: And yet guy, it's Tate over Tyson for me. Okay, 1150 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 8: I think he is a pretty savvy route runner. I 1151 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 8: think he went early. He can beat you at the 1152 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 8: top of routes. Devin moves. No, he's not gonna blow 1153 00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 8: past you like you said, takes the sav ro run. 1154 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, you disagree, Yeah, but oh I 1155 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 6: want you to fight. Well the whole segment. 1156 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 7: I don't. 1157 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 5: I don't. 1158 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 9: I don't think Tate. I'm just looking at I mean, 1159 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 9: I'm looking at you, but I'm looking I don't. I 1160 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 9: don't think Tate does a whole bunch to separate himself 1161 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 9: within the route process or whatever, right Tyson does that, 1162 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 9: or even if you're like another guy to where I'm 1163 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 9: not a route runner, but my quickness gets me open 1164 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 9: because of my route running. 1165 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 5: Tate's not that guy. Neither. 1166 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 9: Tate's more smooth than me, and he's more leverage guy 1167 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 9: than route running guy. He's more all right, all kind 1168 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 9: of other and I know where I can cut to 1169 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 9: kind of get open, but I think Tyson does that. 1170 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 9: Plus he can run a slant five different ways, or 1171 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 9: he can make you know, ten different routes look like 1172 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 9: two routes or something like that. I just think Tyson 1173 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 9: is a much more superior rout runner. Tate can probably 1174 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,439 Speaker 9: run routes in the context of like what a great 1175 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 9: college football player is, but on the next level, when 1176 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 9: more route runners come to the party, I would see 1177 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 9: Tyson as higher on that list as NFL route runners 1178 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 9: than Tate. 1179 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,359 Speaker 10: Is Okay, I think I Tate Tate nice, though Tate 1180 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 10: to me right now, I think is a better route runner. 1181 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 10: I would just I would think that Tyson's ceiling is 1182 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 10: better as a route runner. And I think Tyson is 1183 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 10: showing gradual improvement year over your improvement as a route runner. 1184 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 10: That makes you comfortable that he's going to end up 1185 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 10: being a better route runner. So I think when they 1186 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 10: get to the next level, he very well could be 1187 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 10: a better route runner than Tate. I think Tate might 1188 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 10: be better now, that's just how I view. 1189 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 8: And I think, and I don't disagree with either of 1190 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 8: your points. 1191 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 10: I think you got it is well, we disagreed about 1192 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 10: the route run you have to die about that point. 1193 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 8: I disagree with that point, okay, But what I'm saying 1194 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 8: with Tate, what stands out for me is his content. 1195 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 8: What what's the funny? 1196 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 4: I just the way Bobby was like, you have to 1197 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 4: you have to disagree with somebody because we disagree. 1198 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 7: I love you. 1199 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 8: Go ahead. I think what what stands out to him 1200 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 8: for me is and not to say that Jordan Tyson 1201 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 8: can't do this. He's a freak athlete. I think his 1202 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 8: contested catchability that is true, he's a monster, is second 1203 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 8: to none. I think he's fantastic. 1204 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 6: He's probably the best in the drag. 1205 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, just going up and the end the ball. I'm 1206 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,439 Speaker 8: still get PTSD from the touchdown catch he had against 1207 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 8: Texas where I think it was Michael taff was just 1208 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 8: draped all over him. Look borderline like assault, and he 1209 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 8: still somehow came down with it and I'll say won 1210 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 8: the game because of it. Definitely still not salty about that. 1211 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm very bad, but super productive this past 1212 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 8: year with nine touchdowns I like Carnel Taitel. I think 1213 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 8: he's not as productive in terms of pure yards career 1214 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 8: trajectory is kind of some of the other Ohio State 1215 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 8: guys that have been in the past, like a Smith 1216 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 8: and Jigbur Garrett Wilson. But I think he definitely is 1217 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 8: can be in line to be the next great Ohio 1218 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 8: State I mean. 1219 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 10: And I think that Tate, if you're if you're looking 1220 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 10: for like comps to me like how they because I 1221 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 10: think they're both really good. Tate to me is he's 1222 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,479 Speaker 10: bigger obviously in terms of taller, the wing spans better. 1223 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 10: Reminds me Calvin Ridley a little bit when Ridley was 1224 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 10: coming out. 1225 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: Tyson to me is could very well be Malik Neighbors. 1226 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,760 Speaker 10: I think, I think Jordan Tyson is really really good 1227 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 10: and does nothing with him being a local guy, but 1228 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 10: I think that he's really really fantastic. A lot of 1229 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 10: the stuff that I have and here notes about him 1230 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 10: about the explosiveness and the tempo changes, the way he 1231 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 10: manipulates defenders, and I don't even think he's consistently sharp 1232 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 10: as a route runner yet. And I think as that 1233 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 10: cleans up and gets better, he's going to unlock something 1234 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 10: really special Alan High School. 1235 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 8: That's the sharpness for me is the biggest with him. 1236 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,839 Speaker 8: And the injury concerns in the past too. 1237 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of injury concerns, Jordan. 1238 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 5: So you say sharpness, what do you mean by by sharpness. 1239 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 10: Because I still think that like a lot of the 1240 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 10: way he wins is the way that he is as 1241 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 10: an athlete, and so I think that he's going to 1242 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 10: become a more precise routenner. I don't think he's there 1243 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 10: yet as soon as a lot of that precision because 1244 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 10: you're seeing if you go watch him year over year, 1245 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 10: he's steadily improved. That's a big thing for me when 1246 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 10: I watch guys. Give me if there's something. If I 1247 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 10: see steady improvement year over year, and I can go, okay, 1248 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 10: that's projectable. Tyler Smith was projectable that way year over 1249 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 10: year you saw it getting better. I think that he's 1250 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 10: somebody who's scratching the surface. I don't think he's tapped 1251 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 10: into all of it yet. 1252 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, to do like sits DB's up in his love 1253 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 5: lit to West go ahead. 1254 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1255 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 4: Defensive tackle Lee Hunter out of Texas Tech or Caleb 1256 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 4: Banks out of Florida. 1257 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 5: Oh that's easy. 1258 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 6: I know where is going tackle, so you're going Lee Hunter. 1259 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 9: He's a he's a big athlete, and when the draft 1260 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 9: come around, they probably got some clip of him shooting 1261 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 9: the basketball or him jumping over stuff. I hate when 1262 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 9: they do that in draft they show none football athleticism. 1263 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 5: Get out of here. But Banks is multi sport athlete, 1264 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 5: bless his heart, but show me, like, show me the 1265 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 5: football stuff. 1266 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 4: The guy that sits in that chair throughout the weeks 1267 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 4: that do podcasts, that was a dual sport athlete, Jesse. 1268 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 9: Holl There's nothing wrong with being dual sport athlete. But 1269 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 9: when I'm drafting, you show me your highlights. Don't be like, oh, yeah, 1270 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 9: he dunked the basketball, or he chops wood and the 1271 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 9: dagon woods or something, you know what I mean, Like like, 1272 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 9: show me the football stuff. 1273 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 1274 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 9: Quinn Miaus, for example, when he got drafted, it was 1275 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 9: all about his mustache and him chopping wood in the 1276 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 9: dagon in some cabins such as He's fantastic. 1277 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,720 Speaker 6: That's TV producers doing TV show me football. 1278 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 10: But if they show an offensive lineman like wrestling a bear, 1279 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 10: that's not football. But with that, like have you like, Okay, 1280 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 10: I can project. 1281 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 5: Look I'm phony. I can admit that I'm I can 1282 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,320 Speaker 5: admit that I'm phony. 1283 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 9: If if if if, if, I out know what's wrestling 1284 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 9: a bear or something in the sand, and we're making 1285 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 9: it half do it? 1286 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 7: Do it. 1287 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 5: But Caleb Banks ain't wrestling bears. 1288 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 9: You know what I'm You know, he's just athletic with 1289 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 9: any technique anyway, Look, Lee Hunter. Lee Hunter is a 1290 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 9: real bear and he whoops feet, you know what I'm saying. 1291 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 9: So I'm taking a dude that knows how to play defensive. 1292 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 6: Caleb Banks is from Detroit. I don't think he's no 1293 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 6: bears in there's no bears. Banks are some lions, but 1294 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 6: no bears. 1295 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Lee Hunter is. I mean, these are two 1296 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 2: very different players. To me. 1297 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 10: Lee Hunter is going to be a limited pass rusher, 1298 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 10: two gapping run guy who he's kind of what you see, 1299 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 10: what you see is what you get, which is a 1300 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 10: good player, but is also probably a two down player 1301 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 10: in today's NFL, and that's going to be the limitation. 1302 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 10: Caleb Banks is a ton of upside and and pass 1303 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 10: rush ability. That is, it feels like it could be there, 1304 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 10: but you got to unlock it. It's somebody who has 1305 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 10: all of the If you're to say, like, get me 1306 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 10: all of the traits, let me build a defensive tackle 1307 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 10: physically the way it's supposed to look. 1308 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 2: Caleb Banks would have a ton of it. 1309 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 10: But at the same time, Caleb Banks does not look 1310 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 10: like he knows what he's doing on a football field 1311 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 10: with those traits all the time. So how teachable is he? 1312 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 10: How much can you tap into that? I think that 1313 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 10: in an era of you want to know with as 1314 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,959 Speaker 10: much certainty as you can who you're getting, Lee Hunter 1315 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 10: would be above Banks for me. 1316 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 8: I completely agree with both of you guys. 1317 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, You're welcome. 1318 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 6: See I can do that time right yeah. 1319 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 8: See, But that that Hunter is the more like plug 1320 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 8: and play. You know what you're gonna get out of him. 1321 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 8: You're gonna get a big one tech who's just gonna 1322 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 8: take a double team and we're going to help you 1323 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 8: in the run game. He will not be able to 1324 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 8: rush the passer or whatsoever, but he's just going to 1325 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 8: plug things up for you. Banks man, I like him 1326 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 8: a lot because of the athletic stuff, But it's gonna 1327 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 8: he's gonna have to go to the right place and 1328 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 8: get developed correctly. 1329 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, last one before we say goodbye, say Camari Ramsey 1330 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 4: out of USC or AJ Halsey out of LSU's. 1331 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 9: Literally gonna come down to prefaces. I think Ramsey is 1332 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 9: gonna play, and he's probably more versatile. I think Halsey 1333 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 9: gets to the football more like. I love how he 1334 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 9: gets to the football any big as hell for some reason. 1335 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 9: I don't know, and I don't know how fast he 1336 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 9: is neither, but he just finds a way to get 1337 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 9: to the football. Ramsey's a guy that's probably gonna play 1338 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 9: nickel for you some some box safety. He could play 1339 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,479 Speaker 9: up on the roof some you know, sometimes the flips 1340 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 9: up on the roof. 1341 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 5: Sometimes. 1342 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 9: I got Halsey because I like how smart he is 1343 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 9: and how he gets to the football like he gets 1344 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 9: over there. But I can see both being great. It 1345 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 9: just depends on what you like and what you're looking for. 1346 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 4: His forty projection off of the first website I looked 1347 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 4: at would be a four or five five Halsey Halsey. 1348 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, it'll be nice for him, which I so, I 1349 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 10: have not done like full study on Ramsey yet. So 1350 00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 10: Halsey I've watched. He reminds me of Tyler Newban. That's 1351 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 10: that's who I saw when I watched him, but which 1352 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 10: is a fine player. But I also think is a 1353 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 10: safety with some limitations and probably has some very scheme 1354 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 10: specific or role specific ways that you can use him. 1355 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 10: He's not going to be your modern hybrid safety nickel 1356 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 10: that you don't ever have to take him off the field. 1357 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 10: He's gonna playe hundred percent of snaps. He's going to 1358 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 10: be able to contribute in the run. He can play 1359 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 10: the nickel, he can play deep metal like you can 1360 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 10: do all these things. To me, it's very much more 1361 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 10: a channeled skill set, which he's good at and would 1362 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 10: be a solid player. But I think that's a that 1363 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 10: to me is a strong safety. Is Halsey. 1364 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think Halsey is 1365 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 8: a better play. I just think he's a dog. This 1366 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 8: past year at LSU, obviously he was incredible. The ball 1367 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 8: production was there, but even before at Houston, I think 1368 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 8: he's doing a lot of the same things. So give 1369 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 8: me Halsey. I think Ramsey. I might need to watch 1370 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 8: Ramsey again because I wasn't wild the first time. It 1371 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 8: looked like he was a step slow. Maybe my eyes 1372 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 8: were just bad at that point, but I think he 1373 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 8: can Ramsey can give you more in terms of you 1374 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 8: can see him in other places, but overall I like 1375 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,439 Speaker 8: Halsey better. 1376 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1377 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 4: I it's funny you and I were in the DFW 1378 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 4: airport getting delayed nine hours on our way to the 1379 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl when I was watching Mario Ramsey and I 1380 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 4: remember looking at him and being like, man, I like it. 1381 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 4: It's not perfect yet, Like there's not a whole lot 1382 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 4: of like you said, the speed and the elements there. 1383 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 4: He's got all that, but there are a couple of 1384 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 4: times where Halsey gets to the ball quicker, but he's 1385 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 4: not as fast as Ramsey. 1386 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 6: So is that just a recognition thing? Is it a 1387 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 6: scheme thing? 1388 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 4: Is it the fact that he had Ramsey also benefited 1389 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 4: from having another really good safety playing. 1390 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,919 Speaker 8: Ambiship with Gerald's a good player. 1391 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,439 Speaker 4: It's a good player, so he had a benefit there, 1392 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 4: So maybe that played a factor into it all. I 1393 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 4: think there's a lot of a lot of conversations that 1394 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 4: are going to be had around those two guys on 1395 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 4: which safety is the right fit for whatever team is 1396 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 4: they're drafting a safety. 1397 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 5: Who's your four real fans? Like, if you have the 1398 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 5: lean one way, who's. 1399 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 6: Your four in top four of safeties? 1400 01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 7: No? 1401 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 5: No, no, your four guys that you this or that 1402 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 5: that we did and. 1403 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 4: You oh, okay, Yeah, the I would go. I'd probably 1404 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 4: go Fano over Dunker. I would go Tyson over Tait, 1405 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 4: Hunter over Banks, and I would right now put Ramsey 1406 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 4: over Halsey because I like the upside. 1407 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 6: However, I'm okay with Halsey one way or the other. 1408 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 4: I don't have a solidified These are all guys, like 1409 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 4: I said, actual touching tags on my board right now 1410 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 4: that I wanted to get your opinions and clarify a 1411 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 4: little bit. That's part of the draft community too, starting 1412 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 4: to pick up what other people are seeing and see 1413 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 4: what you think and compare it to your notes and 1414 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 4: things like that. So I thought this was a fun segment. 1415 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 4: We'll probably do this again. Appreciate you guys as always. 1416 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 4: Between now and Thursday, Vatch is gonna watch tape of 1417 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 4: Tristan Wurf's jumping out of a pool as much. 1418 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 6: As possible, be bro. 1419 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, all sorts of great things that we've seen from 1420 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 4: the NFL Draft outside of football. 1421 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 6: This was about, guys, what it's about. 1422 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 4: I want to see mal wrestler bear now go ahead, 1423 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 4: all right, maybe we can make that a part of 1424 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 4: the combine week. 1425 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 6: We'll be back on Thursday. 1426 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 4: We are going to preview the NFL Combine and continue 1427 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 4: to look ahead to what we're going to see next 1428 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 4: week for Vonce Lombardi, Bobby Belt, Tommy Arish, Chris Beaman, 1429 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 4: the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the 1430 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 4: draft show. 1431 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 6: We'll see you next or see you on Thursday. 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