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Speaker 3: saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable, humans

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Speaker 2: The best, relentless, refusing to give up.

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Speaker 3: What's up everyone?

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action

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Speaker 2: Network and Fantasy As. I'm your host, Chris Raybond of

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Speaker 2: the Action Network, and I am joined by a fellow

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Speaker 2: most accurate top five rancor for season on Fantasy over

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Speaker 2: the last three seasons at Fantasy Pros, the director of

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Speaker 2: predictive Analytics at the Action Network, odds maker Sean on Kerner.

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Speaker 3: Sean, what's going on? Good?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was fighting the plague. I was sick

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Speaker 1: all weekend. But I'm starting to feel closer to one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent and ready to rock.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm glad you're feeling better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was actually filling under the weather as well, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe something's going around. But feeling good, feeling energized, ready

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Speaker 2: for first spade of preseason games, and ready to break

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Speaker 2: down some wide receiver threes and beyond wide receiver fours,

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Speaker 2: and even we're even gonna touch on guys outside of

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Speaker 2: the top forty eight wideouts that we like as well.

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Speaker 3: So a lot to get to on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump right in and start with the wide receiver

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Speaker 2: three tier that would be Tanked Dell, George Pickens, Amari

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Speaker 2: Cooper's A Flowers, T Higgins, Keenan Allen, Christian Kirk, Terry McLaurin, Rashi,

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Speaker 2: Rice Jaden, Reid, Calvin Ridley, and Chris god Win. Give

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Speaker 2: me somebody you're high on out of.

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Speaker 1: Those names, Well, I gotta go with my boy T

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Speaker 1: Higgins all the way down at wide receiver twenty nine

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Speaker 1: right now. And you know last year he was twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth in bestball points out of per game despite battling,

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Speaker 1: going to become a free agent next offseason, so he

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Speaker 1: has every incentive to have a massive year. Tyler Boyd

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Speaker 1: battle for the number three wide receiver slot. Whether it's

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Speaker 1: long term fantasy suck, but I think that T Higgins

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's my wide receiver twenty four. I absolutely

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Speaker 2: as well. For my guy gotta go with Tank Dell.

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, Mahomes is like that, Antonio

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Speaker 2: first game to be like, he's the best Texan wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: A shame he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think the fact that he got hurt,

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Speaker 2: Tank Dell may be a generational talent, like he may

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Speaker 2: You know, there's only certain guys that just have that

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Speaker 2: So I have no problem investing in him any and everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, love it. And they're a very tough team to project,

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Speaker 3: All Right, somebody you are low on in this year.

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Speaker 1: I hate to do this, but I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen just at my receiver thirty, you know, just

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore or Roma Dunzay to miss time to really

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Speaker 2: I mean the Chicago situation, you know, it's it's in

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Speaker 3: So I get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, we haven't seen Williams. We don't know how

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Speaker 3: I do have them right around wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Starts to be a bigger drop off for sure for me.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's one of the I think he's actually

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Speaker 2: ten plus half PPR points per game.

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Speaker 3: And then oh, yeah, I have that too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: see that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like yep, wide receiver thirty six thirty seven drop off.

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Speaker 1: There's like a fourteen point drop between thirty seven and

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Speaker 1: thirty I didn't realize that, but that that is a

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Speaker 1: good point. I guess you if you know, whoever you're

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Speaker 3: Because you know it could be sometimes it's it's Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy to think he's actually two years older

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Speaker 2: e X two zero wide receiver thirty seven to forty eight.

438
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: This is where it starts to get real interesting. So

439
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: we'll just go with guys, we're high on here. We're

440
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: not gonna because now you should have your your starters.

441
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: Now you're not as worried about you know, busts and

442
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: floor You're you're trying to get You're trying to get

443
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 2: the right guys and get the upside here, especially if

444
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: maybe you didn't get you know, three wide receivers in

445
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: that in that top you know, thirty thirty two. But

446
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: even if you did, never a bad idea to keep

447
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: hammering receiver in my opinion, especially if you're if you're starting,

448
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 2: you know, three in a flex. But Marcus Brown, Deontay Johnson,

449
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins, Jackson Smith and Jigba Roma duns A, Jordan Addison,

450
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: Christian Watson, Xavier Worthy, Lad McConkie, Courtland Sutton, Brian Thomas,

451
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: and Kean Coleman.

452
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: And remember using best ball ADP.

453
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 2: So I think some like some of these guys are

454
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: a little bit higher in this ADP than they would be. Like,

455
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: I think Coleman sticks out as a guy who you know,

456
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: I don't have ranked.

457
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: That is that high.

458
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's more in the in

459
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: the you know, high fifties, low sixties for me. Xavier

460
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: Worthy even you know, more of a basketball playing redraft.

461
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to take him at wide

462
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: receiver forty four, especially with Rice's suspension looking less likely either.

463
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: Christian Watson, even I think is kind of shaky uh

464
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: there as well. But who are you high on in

465
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 2: this range shop?

466
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 3: And you like Watson?

467
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: Actually, let's talk talk to me about Watson because I'm

468
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: we're on opposite This is like a true disagreement because

469
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: like sometimes like oh yeah, I understand, but I actually

470
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 2: have Watson.

471
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me just pull it up just so

472
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: sixty or something.

473
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no no.

474
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

475
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: I love the guy's talent, but I do I have

476
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: him fifty three.

477
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: And you and so I'm guessing you have and he's

478
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: eightyp forty three and you are high on him, so

479
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: I guess you you haven't even higher than that. So, yeah,

480
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: convinced me about Christian Watson because my thing is, it's

481
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: just he's in this mix of four wide receivers. I

482
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: don't know if he's guaranteed to get those you know,

483
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: eighty ninety percent snap breaks that you're a starting wide

484
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: receiver usually get.

485
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: So talk to me.

486
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, just I have a candidate for best ball,

487
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: which is Christian Watson, and I have somebody else for

488
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: more season long okay, contest. But I think that we're

489
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: talking about this is our fourth maybe fifth receiver. We're

490
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: just going for upside, and I think this tier actually

491
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: all these guys have a ton of upside. Yeah, the

492
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: type of receivers that I like in this range. I

493
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: just want to talk about Christian Watson because he is

494
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: my wide receiver forty one in best ball ranks, so

495
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: I think I think he's more best ball specific because

496
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's a little bit more inconsistent, a little

497
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: more volatile than some of these other guys. But last

498
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: year he was fortieth and best ball points out of

499
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: per game despite you know, battling his hamstring injuries again.

500
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: But he has a ton of upside. He's a great

501
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: way I want to invest in Jordan Love still. I

502
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: want to invest in the Packers passing attack again this year.

503
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: And while it's you know, a pretty crowded receiver room,

504
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: I think Jayden Reid, we know his role. Romeo Dobbs

505
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: could be, you know, the number one target this year.

506
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: Even Dondavian Wicks flash at times last year. But Watson

507
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: still has the big play upside where he doesn't necessarily

508
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: need a ton of targets to produce. So I take

509
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: your point. In terms of playing time, he might max

510
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: out at maybe eighty percent routes run. We'll see. I

511
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: think they still have him. Where do you have Well,

512
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to pull up.

513
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: A medium sh just mark it like I would say

514
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: percent if I had to guess.

515
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: I know the coaching staff is still high on him.

516
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: They want him to be the top receiver, but they

517
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: have so many options that it wouldn't shock me if

518
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: he if he you know, ends up in the seventy

519
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: five to eighty percent range. But I think that's a

520
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: fair projection for him. And again, he's seeing those high

521
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: value targets. You know, he gets a lot of downfield

522
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: targets he has touched on upside, He's been spending a

523
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: lot of time this offense working on his hamstrings, trying

524
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: to make sure he doesn't you know, tweak him again

525
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: this year. So I think that'll go a long way,

526
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: hopefully in terms of him staying healthy. But he just

527
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: has a ton of upside. In last year, he finished

528
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: inside the top twelve twenty two percent of the time,

529
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: which ranked twenty eight. So that was slightly higher than

530
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: guys like Jayalen Waddle, Mark Cooper, Chris Olave. So he

531
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: he has flashed that that weekly upside that you do

532
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: want and best ball. So that's why I'm saying I

533
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: would consider more of a best ball pick because I

534
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: could see in season long where you don't really know

535
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: when he's gonna go off or maybe have a dud.

536
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he would be a guy

537
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: you'd fully trust, you know, as a wide receiver. Three,

538
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: I think he'd probably needs some injuries to get there.

539
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: So I think specifically for best Ball, he's like, you know,

540
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: a gay Davis typer. He's going to see a little

541
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: bit more value in Best Ball. Yeah, I guess before

542
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: I go on to my next guy, and any thoughts

543
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: about him and why are you so low on him?

544
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Is it just the playing time the crowded wide receiver

545
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: room there, Yeah, it's.

546
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: So it's a mix of and I'll tease I'm actually

547
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: higher on pretty much another like I think, I don't.

548
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't think he's.

549
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: Actually the best Packer receiver, So I'm higher on another

550
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: one of their receivers that that goes after him, which

551
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: I'll talk about in the next segment. And then yeah,

552
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 2: and on top of that, regardless of your opinions on

553
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 2: the pack the top four Packer receivers, I think, and

554
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: it's it's fair to argue that all all of their

555
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: top four reed Dabbs, Watson, and Wicks are are good

556
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: like they're they're probably plus NFL receivers and then you

557
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 2: also have the tight end.

558
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: So I just feel like this is this is a situation.

559
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: Where I think the year to have him was his

560
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: was his rookie year, right where he had like those

561
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: that those all those touchdowns with Aaron Rodgers said, Now,

562
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: I feel I know he's you know, he's outside of

563
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: the top thirty six, but it feels a little bit

564
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: chasy for me. He's never averaged more than forty seven

565
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: yards per game. He's never averaged more than three point

566
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: one catches per game. Uh, you know in that playoff,

567
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, when he came back from injury in the

568
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: playoffs last year, his playing time was a little sporadic.

569
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: I also think, regardless of whether it's true.

570
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: Or not, because I don't know if injury prone, this

571
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: is that like it's a lot of if it's just randomness,

572
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: but that's not necessarily what the what teams think and

573
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: some I think day because they have all these assets,

574
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: they may try to protect him, And so I just

575
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: worry that we were not going to see him get

576
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: back to that even even that last year set, Like

577
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: I think he averaged around eighty percent last year.

578
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: Much of that was you know, in the first half

579
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: of the season.

580
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if we see him get back to that,

581
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: especially because I think you got to give Jayden Reid

582
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: a few more snaps as well. Wix Is is very is,

583
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: you know, very good as especially for a fourth guy.

584
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: Got two good tight ends. So it's it's it's not

585
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: a knock on him because I think he is very

586
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: talented and obviously we saw that he did that down

587
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: that stretch his rookie year.

588
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: But I have him number fifty three.

589
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: I would rather him as a number five wide receiver

590
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: rather than a number four on my teams. But I

591
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: am very aggressive drafting wide receivers as well, so right

592
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: that that's probably part of it is that I'm already

593
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: sitting here with like, you know, three top twenty seven

594
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: wide receivers, Like, I don't know what do I need

595
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: to do with Christian Watts, but I do.

596
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: I do. I do agree that he is a better

597
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: best ball pit.

598
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Although the one thing I will say about that that

599
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: makes me a little nervous is if if he does

600
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: truly have like an injury issue, then I hate I

601
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: don't like those kind of guys in basketball because you can't,

602
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: you know, just swap him out, so that that's my

603
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: other concern. But yeah, just like kind of like a

604
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: bunch of little things adding up for me to knock

605
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: him a few out of my top fifty. But you

606
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: know that's why we uh, that's why we have these discussions,

607
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: and I think it's a it's gonna be an interesting

608
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: one to monitor because I will agree that he has

609
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: a very wide range outcomes, Like I could be I

610
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: could be so wrong. He could be he could finish

611
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: as the wide receiver twenty three or thirteen even, so

612
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: you know my fifty three could look silly, but you

613
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: know there's also an an outcome where you know, he's

614
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: playing like sixty percent of the snaps each week and

615
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: finishes like the wide receiver sixty three or seventy three too.

616
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just he's a very fascinating players, So

617
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: that that's where I'm at with him. But do agree

618
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: definitely a much better besketball pick. I know you have

619
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: another guy that that you're high on. I'll give a

620
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: guy that I'm high on and then we'll go back

621
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: to you. For me, it's Deontay Johnson, and he's like

622
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: so unsexy these days. He's he's paired with the quarterback

623
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: that had one of the worst not just rookie season,

624
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: but just one of the worst quarterback seasons of all time,

625
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. But I really like Dave Canalis, the had

626
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: new head coach of the Panthers. I think he did

627
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: excellent work coaxing career years out of Gino Smith and

628
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield consecutively, both who were both by the way,

629
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: number one picks that you know, we're kind of down

630
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: on their luck. So he can work with talent like this.

631
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: Bryce Young does have talent. You obviously went number one

632
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: for a reason. Obviously that should have been Stroud in hindsight,

633
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: but does have talent. I think the big issues for

634
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: him last year, and I was I was fading the

635
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: Panthers everywhere, so I did see this coming was the

636
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 2: interior line was terrible because the tackles were fined in Carolina.

637
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: They're the tackles weren't even the issue with the a

638
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: Kwandhu and I think a Moton there they're fine, But interior,

639
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: when you have a shorter a quarterback that shorter in stature,

640
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: you cannot have interior pressure that is just going to

641
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: ruin a quarterback and his timing and his you know

642
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: what he's doing in the pocket, and we saw that,

643
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: and you coupled that with the fact that he just

644
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: you had no guys to separate last year, and now

645
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: I think I think Deontay Johnson is one of the

646
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 2: better separators in the league. So and Deontay Johnson has

647
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: already experienced with playing with you know, subpar quarterbacks and

648
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: still you know, getting open and catching passes. You know,

649
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: he's been in Pittsburgh, so I like, I like a

650
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: bounce back here for Deontay. He is a guy I

651
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: do have in my top thirty six who's going outside

652
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: of it. I think he can. I think he has

653
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: the upside to do what Adam Thielen did over the

654
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: first half last season. And the good thing about Deyontay

655
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: Johnson is he's not old, so you know, he he's

656
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: not as likely to just hit a wall mid season

657
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: like theand Deonda Johnson is going to be twenty eight,

658
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: so like the you know, he has very strong underlying

659
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: target per route numbers. He had that one weird season

660
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: with no touchdowns, but he did draw one hundred and

661
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: forty seven targets that year. But he's had seasons of

662
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, eighty eight, one hundred and seven and eighty

663
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: eight and eighty six catches. I think he can get

664
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: back to that level. I think I think Caroline is

665
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: gonna be night and day different. They added Robert Hutt

666
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: on the interior, They just improved the entire offense. I

667
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: think Bryce Young just out get get Frank right out

668
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: of there, get a quarterback guru in there. And I

669
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: think with Dewan on the decline and lo get you know,

670
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: he's kind of been behind the eight ball a little

671
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: bit because he's missed time in practice as well. So

672
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: I think you have the chance for a monster target

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: season for deontay On On just a bad and what's

674
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: expected to be a bad team. I think they actually

675
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 2: have a has to win that division. But you know,

676
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: I think he's flying under the radar a liddle too much.

677
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: And I'm glad we buy the dip on Deonte.

678
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have him wide receiver thirty seven. We've been

679
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: talking about that massive drop off. Yeah, he's actually the

680
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: top of that drop off for me. So I think

681
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: that alone makes him like a critical pick based on

682
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: my rankings, and I would say like he'd be very

683
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: good picked in like season long formats, I consider her

684
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: more of a higher floor guy.

685
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely than I mean, he's still good in best ball,

686
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: but you can stack him very cheaply in best ball.

687
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: But I agree season long, I do expect him for

688
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: his career. He averages over five catches a game, exactly

689
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: high floor play.

690
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: And again he's above that pretty big drop off at

691
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: the position where you start really filling out your betch.

692
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: Ideally he's your first bench receiver where he can be

693
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: a flex play, backup option, like a safety net. So yeah,

694
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: I think he's a critical pick in this range.

695
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a guy too, Like if if I'm

696
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: kind of going getting a little weird with the early round,

697
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: maybe I did go with a stud tight end, or

698
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: maybe I actually you know, partook in in a stud

699
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: running back or something. He's been a guy that Okay,

700
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: if I need that you know, third wide receiver or

701
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: I need that wide receiver in my flex, you know,

702
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: I feel I feel good about you know, grabbing him

703
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: at of value, and you know, I think he can.

704
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: I think he can outproduce guys like it's within his

705
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: range of outcomes to outproduce a guy like let's say

706
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: a Keenan now and or Christian Kirks guys like that.

707
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: You know, it's not that far fetched because I think

708
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: he can like we saw with Youlan did even on

709
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: with with everything, you know, crashing around him for you know,

710
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: nine to ten games to start last year.

711
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, like Deontay, who else do you like in

712
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 3: this year?

713
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? So again, Christian Watson more of a bestball play.

714
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Its gonna be a headache for season long formats, kind

715
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: of like Gabe Davis, you don't know when the hell

716
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: of playing he's going to miss time a guy I

717
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: like and all formats, but I think he could actually

718
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: become a wide receiver free that you can rely on,

719
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: we can week out just based on his talent and situation.

720
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Is rookie Brian Thomas junior on the Jaguars at wide

721
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: receiver forty seven. I'm ranking him wide receiver forty five,

722
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm way higher on him. I

723
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: just think he does have a more achievable ceiling as

724
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: a rookie. And this this was just a fantastic draft

725
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: class for wide receivers, So you know, Thomas might be

726
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: playing under the radar a bit, you know, Marvin Harrison Junior,

727
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: elite neighbors Romodunze are all likely going to be elite

728
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I mean they're slam dunk prospects, where you know,

729
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior is probably just the tier below them

730
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: where he could become an elite receiver. We don't know.

731
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: He kind of has a wide range outcomes. But our

732
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: buddy Matt Harmon of reception perception compares him to DK

733
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: Metcalf and I definitely see the someblet sary. I think

734
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: that's a really good comp When I'm watching him, I

735
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: see shades of Randy Moss. He has a very similar

736
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: sized deed profile. He's not nearly as polished as Moss

737
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: was as a rookie, though, but he does kind of

738
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: remind me of him a bit. But I think that

739
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: that kind of profile fits well in this Jaguars offense,

740
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, investing him, investing in him

741
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: is also investing in Trevor Lawrence potentially taking that next

742
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: step this year to become maybe you know, an elite quarterback.

743
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: We haven't seen it quite yet, but it still is possible.

744
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: So investing him in him is sort of taking a

745
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: swing on that. I think, you know, having gave Davis

746
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: on this team could complicate things a bit because he

747
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: kind of is a similar player. But either way, I

748
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to see some high value targets downfield.

749
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Could be a you know, red zone weapon. You know,

750
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk can score. Evan Ingram. Christian Kirk and Evan

751
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Ingram are kind of between the twenties guys where you know,

752
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas junior Gabe Davis might be scoring the touchdowns.

753
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he's a guarantee to hit at

754
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: adp here, but if he's your fourth or fifth wide receiver,

755
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: this is the perfect time to just gamble on a

756
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: guy like this where I think just the landing spot

757
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, he has a shot to be a top two,

758
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: maybe the top target in this offense and become an actual, reliable,

759
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, wide receiver three, potentially wide receiver two. So

760
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: I think he's a type of receiver I love taking

761
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: a swing on in this range.

762
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm it was kind of surprised when

763
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: I saw my rankings and I have a wide receiver forty,

764
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: so I'm I'm setting spots higher as well, and I

765
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: think that it's it's probably because you know, Trevor Lawrence.

766
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: I think he's had the most drops over the last

767
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: three years. But I know last year there were just

768
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: a lot of plays that were left on the field

769
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: for Lawrence. Ridley was part of the problem, even though

770
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: he did put up a thousand yards. But the thing

771
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: about this Jacksonville team is, you know, if Thomas gets

772
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: that starting job, which it looks like he will, that's

773
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: that's valuable. But Lawrence is the guy who's gonna be

774
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: you know, lee average or a little bit above in

775
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: in yards per attempt. I think he got unlucky with

776
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: his touchdowns last year. And I don't think jackson was

777
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: going to rotate in a ton of guys. If you know, Thomas, Davis, Kirk,

778
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: Ingram and Etn are healthy, I think they're gonna roll

779
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: with those skill guys on most snaps. So I think

780
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: this Jacksonville team is you know, it wasn't it was.

781
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: It kind of flew under the radar last year. Like

782
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram had a good year, but he only had

783
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: I think like four touchdowns, and Lawrence left some plays

784
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: on the field, and Ridlely left some plays on.

785
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: The field, and you know, Kirk was good, but then

786
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: he got hurt.

787
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: But I think this Jacksonville team is is no one's

788
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: talking about Jacksonville this year, and I think they're as

789
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 2: a whole underrated, And it's the team I like stacking

790
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: in bastball, but even in redraft, because I do think

791
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: that all the guys I just mentioned are going to

792
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: be on the field, you know, eighty percent of the

793
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: time or more, that this this entire offense may be

794
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: a bit undervalue because I think Lawrence underperformed, you know,

795
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: and got unlucky last year's and then got hurt too

796
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: near the end of the year. Remember they started like

797
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: eight and three or something like that. So yeah, I

798
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: like that call, and I'll have more on another Jacksonville

799
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: receiver in a bit.

800
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, let's let's jump right in.

801
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: Well, actually, one more guy I want to mention here

802
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: who I actually am a little bit higher on that.

803
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: Another guy I think people might not be too keen

804
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: on because of it was kind of an underwhelming rookie year,

805
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: and that's Jackson Smith and Jigba. You know, this was

806
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 2: the most arguably the most talented receiver in that last draft,

807
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: and what happened with him was Shane Waldron used him

808
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: as mostly an underneath guy last year. And one thing

809
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: that because you know, one of the most important things

810
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: when we're you know, we're trying to make sure our

811
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: projections are so accurate, is you really have to kind

812
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: of dive deep into these offensive coordinator changes. And you know,

813
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Ryan Grubb one of the things he's talked about is

814
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to use this guy down the field like that,

815
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, intermediate down the field. He's not just going

816
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: to be an underneath guy for me anymore. And I

817
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: think you have the perfect storm where you still like

818
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: DK metcalf is still gonna command more coverage.

819
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett still is.

820
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: You know, he's still good enough to he might still

821
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: command more coverage than Smith and Jigba, but he's not

822
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: going to average ten yards to catch this year.

823
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: I can guarantee that.

824
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: And he caught sixty three balls on ninety three targets

825
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: last year, so I think he can. I think he

826
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: can catch more balls, but bump that catch rate, you know,

827
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean, bump that yards per reception into the twelves thirteens.

828
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna surprise people. I think he

829
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: outproduces Lockett this year, and I have him sneaking into

830
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: the top thirty six as well, because this is another

831
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: offense where you expect, you know, their top three wide

832
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 2: receivers and maybe even Fan this year because.

833
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: They got rid of all the you know, they got

834
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: rid of all the other tight ends.

835
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: I think those guys are just gonna get a ton

836
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: of snaps and not come off the field very much.

837
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: So you could be getting like a eighty five nine

838
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: percent a snap guy in Smith and Jigbo who's not

839
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: no longer just going to be you know, ten yards

840
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: in a crowd of dust type guy anymore. So like JSN,

841
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: and I think there's there's another situation where, you know,

842
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: if something were to happen to Gino, I know he's

843
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: going through some injury issues in camp. You got Sam

844
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: Howell there, which is you know, it's passable for a backup,

845
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: so it wouldn't be the end of the world. So yeah,

846
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: really like a JSN a year or two breakout, Let's

847
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: go to the wide.

848
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: Receiver four outside the top forty eight.

849
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna list all the names because they're

850
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: like fifty odd guys, but give me, give me someone

851
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: you are high on outside the top forty eight.

852
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm I'm high on Jalen Polk of the

853
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Patriots at wide receiver seventy seven. I have him wide

854
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: receiver sixty four. But he is he is a player

855
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: who is obviously going to be impacted by a potential brain.

856
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Now you trade if he does end up in New England,

857
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: so might rank for him well plummet if I does

858
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: go to New England. So with that in mind, I

859
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: think that he at least, you know, he wasn't the

860
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: most talented wide receiver in this class by any means,

861
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: but I did kind of like the landing spot. Because

862
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots are rebuilding team, their depth charts fairly wide open,

863
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: so there's at least a chance he could be the

864
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: number one target for them as soon as this year.

865
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: And you know, while it's likely going to be an

866
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: inefficient offense, there's probably going to be in a ton

867
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: of negative trailing, more pass heavy game scripts, so that

868
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: the volume could be there for Polk. So I think

869
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that's just sneaky based on

870
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: his landing spot and opportunity as a rookie, so I

871
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: think he is worth a flyer light in drafts where

872
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: you could end up being a guy that you can

873
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: count on for four, maybe five receptions a game. And

874
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: I guess another guy outside of the top fifty I

875
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: would like him just basketball specifically, would be Michael Wilson

876
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: of the Cars at wide receiver seventy. He's still, you know,

877
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: a big play kind of guy. So even though they

878
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: have Marvin Harrison Junior there, you know, Trey McBride's obviously

879
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, a top two target in this offense, it

880
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: could actually open things up for Wilson downfield. So he's

881
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: probably not gonna see as much volume this year, but

882
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: those explosive plays could still be there. So I think

883
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: in terms of best ball he would be a guy

884
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: that'd be worth the flyers since he's going outside of

885
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: the top seventy.

886
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting one because Polk is like I

887
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: always struggle with, Like there just wasn't I don't know,

888
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: he wasn't like on my radar as much as some

889
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: of you know, obviously the Marvin Harrison's and the and

890
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: the Roman Noon days of the world. But I did

891
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: I did notice that, Yeah, he landed in a spot

892
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: where he could be that that alpha number one I

893
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: know Douglas is you know, gonna get a lot of

894
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: work underneath, but Pope, you have that that spot, Like

895
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 2: it brings to mind Terry McLaurin a couple of years ago,

896
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: remember when he was you know, I don't even I

897
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: think he was kind of like tentatively expected to start

898
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: in Washington and they.

899
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: Were kind of going through a rebuild, just.

900
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: An un sexy offense, and you know he just emerged, Yeah,

901
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: a J. Brown on a bad offense. I think that

902
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: same year. You know, guys like that, you can you

903
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: can never really at this point in the draft because

904
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: remember early in the draft, you're just you know, you

905
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: can't win your draft in the first round.

906
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: You're just trying to take high floor guys, not not

907
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: screw it up.

908
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: But here, you know, now you can afford to take

909
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: some risks, especially at this position if you loaded up

910
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: on on studs, you know, three at least three guys

911
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: in that top thirty like we recommended.

912
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like that. I like taking and he's

913
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: like a cheaper.

914
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: One of these guys that that could potentially be his

915
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: team's top target.

916
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Like you know, we've been like I've.

917
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: Been at least you know, pumping guys like you know,

918
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: Kean Coleman all off seas. So now they like he's like,

919
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: why was ever forty eight? And now it's too high.

920
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't want him anymore, you know. It's like so Polk,

921
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: yeah going outside the top top seventy has a real

922
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: shot here.

923
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: So I do like that.

924
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a guy. I remember last year tuning in

925
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: to watch Washington. I knew Rouma Doomsday was going to be,

926
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, a top ten pick, and Michael Pennix Junior

927
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: it was going to be a potential first round pick.

928
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: And I remember after watching their games going holy shit.

929
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Polk was pretty good too, Like he could be,

930
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, a Day one kind of guy. But you know,

931
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he has like true alpha upside. He

932
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of like a dollar store Dj

933
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: Moore or like a like Robert Woods when he was

934
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: on the Rams, Like he's not going to like blow

935
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: you away. But I think if he has the volume,

936
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can you know, rack up catches.

937
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: He's more of a contested catch kind of guy. So

938
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: I liked him more in like PPR formats and things

939
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: like that. But I think this opportunity that he has

940
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: in a wide open Patriot depth chart actually fits his

941
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: skill set pretty well.

942
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: And let me just ask your since you know, people

943
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: obviously tune it in because you've just been one of

944
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: the most consistent, uh most accurate rankers, and part of

945
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: that A key to that is being able to accurately rank.

946
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: All of these rookies.

947
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: Like what is what shed some insight into just like

948
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 2: your process when it comes to, uh, projecting a guy

949
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: like Pulp, Like are you are you do you have

950
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: kind of like a model where you're converting some of

951
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: his college metrics into uh, you know, pro numbers. Are

952
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: you just like diving into the film?

953
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

954
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: And then kind of you know, basing basing it off that,

955
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: like what are you doing for a guy like Polk,

956
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: who you know is not He's not like a Marvin

957
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Harrison where you can say, oh, yeah, we're just gonna

958
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: fuck him in as a wide receiver one, Like how

959
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: do you how do you go about projecting a guy

960
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 2: like like a jay Win Polk?

961
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so some of it, you know, I'm trying to

962
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: make it as data driven as possible, So I know

963
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: you have your like weekly projection model similar to mine.

964
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: We're we're projecting routes run you know, their target rate,

965
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: what we think their eight up will be. So I

966
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: think just based on their college performance, based on where

967
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: they went in the draft. I do rely on a

968
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: ton of scouts and other people scouting these guys. There's

969
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a lot of guys we have to go through. I

970
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of go through my weekly projection process to kind

971
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: of get a baseline of where you know, I would

972
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: have him. But to be honest with all of these rookies,

973
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: we have to go off vibes a bit. So that's

974
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: just years and years of experience. You and I both

975
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: we've seen Jalen Polk types come through, and I think

976
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: with him, it's just when I'm when I'm doing like

977
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: the week one projections or my weekly projection file, it's

978
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: just noticing that he does have a pretty clear path

979
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: to having a seventy eighty routes run rate. This is

980
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: a real rebuilding team, so they're going to want to

981
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: get their second round pick, probably as many reps as

982
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: possible in year one, especially with you know, Drake May

983
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Once he's up, so I think that you know, the

984
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: Patriots are going to want to make sure his playing

985
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: time is up there, and I think he should be

986
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: able to command planning the targets just based on you know,

987
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: his target competition. So a lot of it is just

988
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of going through my weekly production process while trying

989
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: to come up with as accurate baselines as I can think.

990
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: And I think we'll both admit when it comes to rookies,

991
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: we have you know, less confidence when it comes to

992
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: our baselines. So we're just kind of getting it roughly there.

993
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: But I think that's a lot of it is I

994
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: kind of go through my my weekly production process to

995
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: get the baselines that I have for my season long productions.

996
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely.

997
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: And it's it's it's definitely challenging because you're always when

998
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: you're talking about rookies, some of the things you kind

999
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: of have to group them like, Okay, this is a

1000
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: guy that went in this range, you know, that went

1001
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: to the disquality school, that's you know, this age, and

1002
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: there's always so many guys, especially in the last you know,

1003
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: decade or so, that are even relevant to the to

1004
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: the current game, and you got to kind of just

1005
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, get a range of outcomes. Like I always

1006
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: like to look at okay, you know, for guys guys

1007
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: picked in that you know, you know, early round two range,

1008
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: you know, what are what are the range of outcomes

1009
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: if he's gonna be a you know, a top three receiver,

1010
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: like you know, what are his route percentage, range of outcomes,

1011
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: what are his what are the range of outcome for

1012
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: his target per route rate?

1013
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 3: You know, and then yeah, eight average up to target.

1014
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: You could definitely kind of get that from what he

1015
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: did in school and whatnot. And then a lot of yes,

1016
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: you got to kind of pay attention to camp and

1017
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: make sure he's getting first team reps, which Pope is

1018
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: so yeah, but I that was great stuff. I was

1019
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: just I was just curious because I think it's it's

1020
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: definitely one of the more challenging things. But if it

1021
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: hits a lot of times those kind of guys Jam

1022
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: and Polk McLaurin I mentioned a couple of years ago,

1023
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: a J.

1024
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: Brown even.

1025
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: You know, those guys can be lead winners, you know,

1026
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: and they're going outside the top forty, top fifty. So

1027
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, this is why I say you can't win

1028
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: your draft in the first few rounds, but you can

1029
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: lose it. But the real way you can use your

1030
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: draft is by because you're paying too much attention and

1031
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: overthinking your early round picks when it's it's really not

1032
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: gonna make a lot of different one way or the other.

1033
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: Like we went through a pod our wide receiver TuPOD where.

1034
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: I think, you know, like nine or nine or ten

1035
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: of the twelve guys were within like, uh, you know,

1036
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: a few tenths of a point in our projections per game.

1037
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: So this is where you're going to start to get

1038
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: that separation, uh, in your draft is drafting and hitting

1039
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: on a guy like Jayalen Polk, you know at wide

1040
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: receiver seventy something ADP. So good stuff there, and that's me.

1041
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: This is about when Jayden Reid was drafted last year.

1042
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: That's kind of what.

1043
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: They're going for. Yeah, exactly exactly.

1044
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: H Speaking of which, uh, the guy I actually like

1045
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: that that that that goes outside the top forty eight,

1046
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs. You know we were super high on him.

1047
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: I think, what as a rookie, right and you know

1048
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: he had he had an okay rookie year. It was

1049
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't amazing. And another guy who you know last

1050
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: year the numbers don't look amazing either, you know, just

1051
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: forty yards a game three and a half catches. But

1052
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 2: I think this guy is still trending up. And the

1053
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: more I kind of watch all these Packer receivers, you know,

1054
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: I think Dobbs actually may be the most you know,

1055
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: consistent in terms of the guy that's able to put

1056
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: up you know, consistent weekly numbers. I think he's the best.

1057
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: I think he's he's he's got some great route running

1058
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: chops along the sideline red zone. He caught eight touchdowns

1059
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: last year on fifty nine catches ninety six targets. So

1060
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: I think Dobbs is going to continue to trend up.

1061
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: And I think it's kind of like almost like a

1062
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 2: post hype because now you know, we love Dantevian Wicks

1063
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: their number four receiver. We love Jayden Reid for a

1064
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: year to break out. You love Christian Watson to bounce back.

1065
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: So like there's a lot of guys on his Packer team,

1066
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: it's easy to forget about Dobbs. So I think Dobbs

1067
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: actually is going to end up being of value. And

1068
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: because he was the guy that, no matter like who

1069
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: else was playing well on that Packer team, Dobbs was

1070
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: consistently getting you know, eighty eighty five percent of of

1071
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: the snaps at wide receiver, you know, And that's what's

1072
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: made it hard for some of these other guys to

1073
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: breakout or to be consistent, is because you know, like

1074
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: Jayden Reed was the only playing like sixty five percent

1075
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: of snaps. Christian Watson even got knockdown. Wicks was playing

1076
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: under fifty percent of a lot of the time because

1077
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: Dobbs was getting the time each and every week. And

1078
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: I think that's going to continue. And I think he's

1079
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: just a very good player. I think Jordan Love, if

1080
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: we get that second half of the year, Jordan Love

1081
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: is gonna be a lot of fancy goodness anyway to

1082
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: go around on this Packer team. So I think Dobbs

1083
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: is a kind of under the radar, just a good

1084
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: player that I think is being a little bit slept on,

1085
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: kind of similar to almost like a JSN where it's

1086
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: just like we knew he had some talent, but you know,

1087
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: the numbers haven't been great, but you definitely see the flashes.

1088
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 2: So Dobbs is the guy. He passes the eye test

1089
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: for me. I like some of the underlying metrics. I

1090
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: like the fact that they want him on the field

1091
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: no matter what else. Is going on in that receiving core.

1092
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: And I like the fact that he has a very

1093
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: talented and what now, the richest quarterback in NFL history throwing.

1094
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: Him the ball.

1095
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, don't be surprised if Dobbs is the most

1096
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: productive Packer receiver.

1097
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

1098
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't move that out and I don't. I don't

1099
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: think people have that on their on your bingo cards.

1100
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Well, I think just investing in the Packers receivers in

1101
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: general as wise. If you remember Bo Melton was performing

1102
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: like a wide receiver one the last few weeks of

1103
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: the season, I think it just goes to show that

1104
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: you want to be investing in this offense. And yeah, Dobbs,

1105
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean he would not truck me if he ends

1106
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: up being, you know, the number one receiver in this offense.

1107
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: So I think that there are certain spots you want

1108
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: to be investing in all these receivers.

1109
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got the more.

1110
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of guys there on it. So

1111
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any more. I see

1112
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: you have Polk with it on on the outline. Any

1113
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 2: other guys said.

1114
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: Well, I said Michael Wilson. Okay, yeah, Michael Wilson at

1115
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver seventy for Best Ball.

1116
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a guy I really liked h

1117
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: I think we did a rookie draft like going back

1118
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 2: and forth with our receivers last year, and I liked him.

1119
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: I probably was a year early, but I like him

1120
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: a lot as a player as well, and he might

1121
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: he might sneak up on some people too, but I've

1122
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: a few more guys here, so I have gave Davis.

1123
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: You know, we talked about Thomas.

1124
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: I have gave Davis ranked inside my top forty eight

1125
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: as well. I haven't met wide receiver forty five. And

1126
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: he tends to go in redraft leagues. He goes in

1127
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: the sixties. So even in a redraft at that price, like,

1128
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: I still expect him to be on the field eighty

1129
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: five to ninety percent of the time. And this is

1130
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: the guy last year finished inside the top forty even

1131
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: in a very down year, so obviously a much better

1132
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: Best Ball pick.

1133
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: But even in Bastball, I think he's going too low.

1134
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's a top forty five pick,

1135
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 2: so he tends to go, you know, outside the top

1136
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: forty eight and even later in redrafts. So I don't

1137
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: mind stashing me some some Dave Davis here, and you know,

1138
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: I just think this Jacksonville offense as a hose underrated.

1139
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: Another guy, she'd Shahed. I think he's a very talented

1140
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: player who you know, managed to do very well catching

1141
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: the deep ball, but not even a great deep ball

1142
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: quarterback and Derek Carr last year, I believe Shahed was

1143
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: you know, top five in deep yardage and touchdowns and whatnot.

1144
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: And he did all that and still had a.

1145
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: Very strong and efficient catch rate as well, which you

1146
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: don't see very often guys with you know, a higher

1147
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: average up to target. He's averaging sixteen point three yards

1148
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: per reception for his career and yet his catch rate

1149
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: is sixty eight percent. So this is an explosive guy

1150
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: who's gonna get a lot more snaps consistently.

1151
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: Now that Michael.

1152
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: Thomas has gone, all you really have is is Chris

1153
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: o Olave in front of you. So this is a

1154
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: guy who could get you know, seventy five, eighty, eighty

1155
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: eighty five even percent of the snaps on a weekly basis.

1156
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: He's also going to get you some returns. He's one

1157
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: of the best returners in the league.

1158
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: And you know I talked about guys that were way

1159
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: to kind of you know, move, you know, get get

1160
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: up there in that per game yardage. Well, shah Heat

1161
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: is rookie your average forty one yards per game year,

1162
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: two forty eight yards per game. I mean you know

1163
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: that that's like better than guys like guys that have

1164
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: a lot higher pedigree did in there, you know, first

1165
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: couple of years in the league. So I think she

1166
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: Heat is flying way under the radar because this Saint

1167
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: team is just kind of it's just not really sexy.

1168
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: And if you if you're thinking about the Saints, you're

1169
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: probably thinking at Olave and maybe Camara, but even him,

1170
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: he's kind of like in No Man's Went Out, he's

1171
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: getting a little older. So I don't think people are

1172
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 2: given Shaheed enough consideration. I have him as a as

1173
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: a top fifty wide receiver, and he go he tends

1174
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: to go outside the top fifty.

1175
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 3: And then one more guy that I'll mention, and there.

1176
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: I have so many of these guys because this is

1177
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: I think this is where you kind of make your

1178
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: make your money in best ball. I think this is

1179
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: where you make your money and even in re draft leaves.

1180
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: But DeMarcus Robinson. And I know I did see the

1181
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 2: report that the Rams are looking to use more two

1182
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: tight end sets this year. But I still think DeMarcus

1183
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: Robinson is a guy that's going to offer value because

1184
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: I still think he has that number three wide receiver

1185
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: spot locked down and he you know, you've you've joked

1186
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: about how we're projecting Robinson. You thought it was Pookaakola

1187
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: and this guy's going like round wide receiver eighty I have,

1188
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: I have this guy inside the top sixty. So remember

1189
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: this is a Rams offense that you know, once Robinson

1190
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: got that number three role, he was on the field

1191
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: eighty ninety percent of the time, you know, sometimes even

1192
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: pushing higher than that. So I think he's a guy

1193
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: that you don't want to sleep on. He's always going

1194
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: to get single covered. A good quarterback, good good scoring environment.

1195
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: So really like me some DeMarcus Robinson. Even if you

1196
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: get maybe a little a little less, a little decline

1197
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: in the you know from last year in terms of

1198
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: the you know that the snap rate for the RAM

1199
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver three if they're using more two tight end sets,

1200
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: but that's all speculation. Like I think, ultimately you're gonna

1201
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: get more using you know cut Nicoua Robinson than you

1202
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: are you know cut Nicoua and like what.

1203
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: Davis Allen and in Kolbe Parkinson.

1204
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: So I think I think over I think in the end, Uh,

1205
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna see that went out, that the talent went

1206
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: out with Robinson, who's kind of like you know he was.

1207
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: He was like one of those guys that just wins

1208
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: sprints when he was on the Chiefs and he kind

1209
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: of like a running joke. But he's like a whole

1210
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: new guy in the rand. I know you've kind of

1211
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: noticed it too. Any thoughts on Robinson.

1212
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, first of all, all three of these guys

1213
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: are my guys too, Like love gave Davis and Rashid

1214
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: Shaheed and best ball Rashid Shahid always respects the coin.

1215
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: I feel like anytime I bet he's over, he catches it.

1216
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, DeMarcus Robinson especially it was the wild card

1217
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: playoff round. I was just looking at their underlying data

1218
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: for the last five games. Uh, and I knew the

1219
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: first So I was looking the names and I knew

1220
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: the first guy I was looking at. I knew that

1221
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: was Cooper Cup. I had his like routes run memorized

1222
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: it's always one hundred. And then the next guy up.

1223
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: I thought I was projecting Pukin Nakua because his you know,

1224
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: target share was like over twenty five percent the last

1225
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: five games. His aight out was healthy, he was seeing

1226
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: a ton of playing time, and I thought I was

1227
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: projecting pukin Nakua, And then I got to Puka Nakua

1228
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: and I realized, holy crap, wait, who the hell was that?

1229
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: And then it was DeMarcus Robinson. So that's why I

1230
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: took the over in the wildcard round. But yeah, he's

1231
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: like and it had been a few seasons since we

1232
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: saw the Rams have three legit wide receivers, right, it

1233
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 1: fell off. I think it was when Brandon Cooks left

1234
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: or Robert Woods and yeah, yeah, but they have traditionally

1235
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: had three legit fantasy receivers. It hasn't been until the

1236
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: past couple of seasons that fell off. But I think that, yeah,

1237
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: they can say all they want, how much, you know,

1238
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: two tight end sets they want to use. I don't

1239
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: know if that makes sense with Higbee Hurt. So I

1240
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see plenty of DeMarcus Robinson again this year,

1241
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: and just based on on the underlying metrics, he could

1242
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: potentially be you know, a top forty type receiver weekend

1243
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: week out, and he has the upside. If either Cooper

1244
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: Cup or Pooka a mess time, he could absolutely be,

1245
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, a top thirty type receiver. So yeah, I

1246
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: love the upside you get with him near like ADP

1247
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver eighty right now.

1248
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: And just to just to give people some context if

1249
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: you weren't familiar with his game, so he took over

1250
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: this this is once he took over the starting job.

1251
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1252
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: Here are his weekly uh finishes eighteen twenty twenty one,

1253
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: fourteen twenty five, and then and then and then and

1254
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: then week eighteen hit and he like only played half

1255
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: the game because they were they didn't have anything to

1256
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: play for. But yeah, finished as a top three five

1257
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: receiver five straight weeks with Cooper Cup playing with Pookinakoupa playing.

1258
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: So don't sleep on DeMarcus Robinson because because remember early

1259
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: in the year, another one of our guys to that

1260
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: well was uh playing above expectation as well. He was

1261
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: a value because he had that RAM number three job.

1262
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: But then they realized that, hey, DeMarcus Robinson could be

1263
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: just as productive, and he's not tiny, so he can

1264
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: run by So why not just get Robinson on the

1265
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: field and and and at Wi will be a gadget guy,

1266
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: and our offense is better. And Robinson's taking advantage of

1267
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: the fact that everyone's got to cover Cup, everyone's got

1268
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: to cover Nkua and and then your word, now the

1269
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: Rams run game is is very good as well. So uh,

1270
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: I think it's just a great situation for uh DeMarcus

1271
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: Robinson uh in l A And yeah, I.

1272
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: Agree, I don't think.

1273
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: I think I think Kobe Parkinson will have we'll have

1274
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: a you know, he might be a revelation for the Rams,

1275
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't think they need to be using

1276
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: two tight ends uhh when they're dropping back to pass

1277
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: any anymore than you know they have in the past.

1278
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: I think I think Robinson is still going to give

1279
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: them the best shot and and.

1280
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: I think they know that. So you know, the numbers

1281
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: don't lie. So yeah, love love him. Think he's going.

1282
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: I think he's going like twenty spots too low, so

1283
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: absolutely smashing him. Uh and uh other guys, you know,

1284
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: there's I mean, there's so many guys. I think another

1285
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: one guy I'll mention before you get out of here,

1286
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: curious to see your thoughts on him, because he's been

1287
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: he's always been your guy too, so I know he

1288
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: like Lad McConkie, the rookie for the Chargers, we're a

1289
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: little worried that they're gonna have a run heavy offense,

1290
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: but like Josh Palmer tends to fall to like the

1291
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: low fifties sometimes even the late six early sixties. I

1292
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: feel like he's a value there too because he's he's

1293
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: probably got just as much of a shot at being there, uh,

1294
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: you know, top receiver as as does McConkey, because you know,

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 2: whereas McConkie's probably going to be a slot guy and

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01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: they may actually come off the field, you know, if

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01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: they ever go two wide, which they could do a

1298
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: lot because Greg Roman very uh, you know, more heavy personnel,

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: Palmer's probably gonna be on the field almost one hundred

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01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: percent of the time as an outside receiver, especially because

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01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 2: they benched or you know, they guess, yeah, they benched

1302
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston and they're using the guy they just signed

1303
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: in DJ chhark On opposite him. So what are your

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01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: thoughts on on Josh Palmer heading into twenty twenty four?

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01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I love him, especially when you can get

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01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: him outside of the top sixty. He's a guy again

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: admittedly is probably a year or two early on, but

1308
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: anytime that you know, Keenan Allen and or Mike Williams

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01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: were out, he was always producing. And that he now

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01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: he gets like an entire season of that. I do

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: love Lad McConkie. I think he's gonna take you know,

1312
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the targets that Keyan Allen's leaving behind.

1313
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: But there's so many targets left behind with Mike Williams

1314
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: and Austin Neckler gone that. Yeah, Palmer, he seems like

1315
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: the highest floor guy in this offense, and it sounds

1316
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: like Quinn Johnson not really having a great camp. So

1317
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer could be their their top outside receiver and

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: like you said, they might use more two wide receiver sets,

1319
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: which I guess would hurt but Conky a bit. But yeah,

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: I think he's like a high floor, high ceiling guy

1321
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: when you can get him outside of the top sixty.

1322
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: A nice cheap way to also invest in Justin Herbert.

1323
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's healthy for Week one, But yeah, I think

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01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: Palmer's the guy that's always been underrated and once again,

1325
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: even though he has this great situation heading into twenty

1326
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: twenty four, he's still too cheap.

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01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's another one of those guys where especially

1328
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: if you already have like your like three stud wide

1329
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: receivers and you get a guy like Josh Palmer late

1330
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: fifties or outside of the top sixties, he may end

1331
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: up finishing, you know, or have a lot of top

1332
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: thirty finishes. A guy like DeMarcus Robinson. I just with

1333
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: you know, five straight top twenty five finishes, you could

1334
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: get him, you know, outside the top seventy. I mean,

1335
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: you can really be stacked that wide receiver if some

1336
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: of these guys hit so and then the great thing

1337
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: about that is then you have the advantage when you

1338
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: have like excess at wide receiver, you have the advantage

1339
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: because then you have as a season progressive, you could

1340
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: see which of those frozen pond running backs you actually

1341
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: want to target, and you can use those wide receivers

1342
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: as trade chips. So, uh yeah, I think I think

1343
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: some of these guys are are gonna be key in

1344
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: finding you know, some diamonds in the rough. Uh and

1345
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of them, uh here,

1346
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: So you know, I think that the general value of

1347
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: the draft is like top thirty wide receivers, then address

1348
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: the other positions and then come swing back around once you're.

1349
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: Getting into the you know, into the fifties.

1350
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: Uh and uh, and you're gonna find out a lot

1351
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: more uh diamonds in the rough. And if you if

1352
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: you build teams like that, I think you're gonna have

1353
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: a lot of high upside, high floor, high steiling teams

1354
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: with with a lot of trade ships, even in redrafts.

1355
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, really I really like those guys.

1356
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: All right, that is gonna do it for part three

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01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,480
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