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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and

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Speaker 2: a Pod, but today it is just one tea and

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Speaker 2: we have a very special guest, Jessel Tank from the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New York. Jessel is a fashion publicist

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Speaker 2: who has worked for her Conde Nass International, Stella McCartney, Selene,

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Speaker 2: Victoria Beckham, Michael Cors and Westfield. She currently runs a

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Speaker 2: boutique agency called The No that specializes in consulting to

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Speaker 2: newly formed brands. She is also busy launching her own

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Speaker 2: e commerce platform that aims to make Southeast Asian fashion

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Speaker 2: more accessible. She also has a big voice on New York.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of questions for her, so I

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Speaker 2: am so excited to bring her in. Make sure that

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Speaker 2: you follow her on Instagram and that you're watching The

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New York because you don't want to

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Speaker 2: miss anything that's going on there. Oh oh, hair, you

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Speaker 2: look hot.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I like that hair length. I think the hair length

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Speaker 2: it's like fresh and youthful and sexy. I'm into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I need it. Do you know when you watch

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Speaker 1: yourself on camera on TV and you're just like, fuck,

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Speaker 1: I look like such a dump. Like I like, my

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Speaker 1: hair was long, didn't have layers. It was like just lackluster.

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Speaker 1: And I literally just went to my hairstyle sound was like,

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Speaker 1: do what you gotta do? Just chop it all off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I felt about my upper lip my

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Speaker 2: first season. I was like, what am I doing here?

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Speaker 1: But it's so crazy that you can't fix it because

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Speaker 1: it's like camera right. So like even for me, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Like what do way people get facial

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Speaker 1: work done? Have to watch themselves on like TV for

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Speaker 1: four months straight, Like there's definite things you can improve.

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Speaker 2: And it's easy. I'm like, Okay, there's this little thing

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Speaker 2: called boattoks. You get a lip flip and all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, not so much of my gum is showing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, the Bravo fans are gonna notice

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Speaker 1: every little thing, and it is so insane. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone has paid so much attention to me, like

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Speaker 1: since I mean not even my husband to be fair,

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Speaker 1: so kind of it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I know everyone notices every little detail. Every Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of questions. It's just me today because

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Speaker 2: Tamar is filming the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion today.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, bless her.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to Orange County?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, but I love Tamra. We've been talking,

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Speaker 1: we've been dming. She's been amazing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, I know she loves you. We you know,

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Speaker 2: we always say everybody's only as good as last week's episode.

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Speaker 2: So we're like, some weeks we're like, we're loving jess

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Speaker 2: On some weeks we're like, no, why why did you?

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Speaker 1: I know it's about But listen, I think I think

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Speaker 1: I had my like I have my down like I started,

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Speaker 1: look you know what I mean, Like I think I started.

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Speaker 1: It was a rocky start for me. But hopefully people

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Speaker 1: are starting to see, like, I'm not that serious and funny. Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not that it's not that serious people.

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Speaker 2: It's not that serious. I agree. So of course, there's

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Speaker 2: one question that every single fan wants to know the

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Speaker 2: answer to. But I'm gonna wait. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: listen to the majority of the podcast guys before I

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Speaker 2: even ask it. But I'll start out with I'll give

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Speaker 2: you some softballs to start. How's that all right?

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Speaker 1: Let's start easy. How let's start easy.

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Speaker 2: How did you get asked to be on the Real

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Speaker 2: Housewives of New York And did you watch any past

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Speaker 1: So, being British, it's not really a thing there, and

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Speaker 1: I note that a lot of people are so I mean,

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Speaker 1: And so when Bravo We're going to reboot, I was

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Speaker 2: And leading on to the show, who were you closest with?

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like we missed some stuff because when

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Speaker 2: feels like we're starting like a couple of weeks into filming.

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Speaker 2: Like the first episode, I'm like, all right, there's ship

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Speaker 2: So how long did you guys actually film before we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't that long. I think it is exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks. But who did you come on close? This with?

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Speaker 1: Uber and I share a common best friend. He's actually

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Speaker 1: someone that I've known. He's one of the very first

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Speaker 1: people I met in New York. His name's Justin. He's

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Speaker 1: He's the best. She's the person that you want to

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Speaker 1: But you know, again, being in fashion, it's a very

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Speaker 1: I think it was you know, for us that we're

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Speaker 2: I would say, that makes sense. And then there are

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Speaker 1: I was like how is it the headliner news? Like

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Speaker 1: this is so crazy? People? Look, did I live in

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Speaker 1: so we had very much been talking about coming back

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was talking to a realtor in January of

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Speaker 1: last summer. I was talking to producers, but nothing was solid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so but you were living in New York prior

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you said that you did used to

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Speaker 2: watch Ronie. A lot of bands are comparing you to

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Speaker 2: Ramona saying, you both say things you are unaware of

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Speaker 1: And even with the way I talked to my husband,

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Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh my gosh, such a bitch to him.

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Speaker 1: But like we've been I mean we've been Mareth for

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Speaker 1: ten years and we have a very real relationship. It's

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Speaker 1: not like I sit on his lap and make out

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, that's it's not reality, and you actually are

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Speaker 2: sharing it. Which will get a little bit more into

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Speaker 2: that in a second. But what would you say the

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Speaker 2: biggest surprise to you once you started filming or watching

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Speaker 2: this back has been other than being the villain, which

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Speaker 2: I've I've been the villain as well. I've also been

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Speaker 2: like this sweetheart, Like every year is something different, So

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Speaker 2: you have no idea, like we all have eighty two personalities.

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Speaker 2: It's called, you know, being a mom.

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Speaker 1: And wearing a number of hat I know you're wearing

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Speaker 2: it out. But there was like six or seven rounds.

432
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: I think I had a couple of miscarriages, a couple

433
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 2: that didn't take it all, and then my last round

434
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: of IVF, I just didn't you know how Like after

435
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: a couple of days, I have you come in and

436
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: check your numbers, I was like, it's Christmas. I'm not

437
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: going to go check my numbers, like put put them

438
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: in and then I'm going to go enjoy the holidays.

439
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume I'm not pregnant, and then I'm just

440
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: going to live my life and not be a stress case.

441
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: And just see what happens. And I came home and

442
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 2: checked my numbers two weeks after I was supposed to

443
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: and they were like, he's thriving, and I was like,

444
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: thank you God. So I mean it is a lot,

445
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: So I know going through that. So it's it's kind

446
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: of a tie in question for me because I know

447
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: you shared already on the show, But when I was

448
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: going through that, I was really struggling, struggling sexually with

449
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: my husband and also post having my son because I

450
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 2: had so much fear and so did he around having

451
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: sex while I was pregnant because I was scared of

452
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: having a miscarriage, like really scared. And then I put

453
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: that on him leading up to even before the IVF process.

454
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: How formulaic you have to make sex to try to

455
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 2: get pregnant on the day of being ovulated, like all

456
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: of that. So I just want you to know, like

457
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: this is a common thing that women go through, and

458
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: it's not just about like people I see people in like,

459
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: well maybe she was more confident or this. No, like

460
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: it's a trauma.

461
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah no, And thank you for saying that, because I

462
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: wanted to share the real reality behind IVF, behind infertility,

463
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: behind postpartum struggles. Like it's real stuff that people really

464
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: we have to a normalize conversation and be like, God,

465
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: we have to be more sensitive to that stuff, Like

466
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: you can't just assume my husband's cheating on me or

467
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: things are going south in our relationship because of things

468
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: that we went through. And it was I don't know

469
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: how long your process was, mind and to end was

470
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: four years. That's a long time going through something. It

471
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: was a big part of my life, and it really

472
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: you change who you are as a person, right, Like

473
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't the girl that was going out and having fun.

474
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: I was eating vegetables all day like because I thought

475
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: that would help me get pregnant, and sleeping at eight

476
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: pm and drinking tons of water and I cut out alcohol,

477
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: Like I became a completely different person.

478
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: And it was and then if you have any postpartum

479
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: like I had postpartum anxiety and like where I just

480
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: became obsessive about every thing and trying to control every

481
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: part of our life even after my son was born.

482
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: And then that added a whole nother level of stress.

483
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: I mean it took over a year for us to

484
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: get back on track.

485
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for saying that, and it's exactly what

486
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: happened to us. And you know, the twins were I

487
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: too write, so they were born premature. They were in

488
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: in the Qan intensive care. I slept on the floor

489
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: in the nursery from like the day we brought them

490
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: home to like six months in because you know, there's

491
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: like all this just stuff that you're worried about is

492
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: in new mom and I don't care. I don't care

493
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: what people think because at the end of the day,

494
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm better for it. My husband was patient, he was

495
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: so supportive, and you know, we have an amazing, thriving family.

496
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: But I did bring it up, and I know people

497
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: are like, oh, shock, horror, Like you know, she's talking

498
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: about this stuff on National TV. It's real stuff that

499
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: we have to talk about as women.

500
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 2: Right and normal not normalize it and be able to say, like,

501
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: I'm not getting emotional hearing you when you said nick

502
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: you because my son was in the nick you too.

503
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: But when you're trying to find yourself post having a child,

504
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: the last thing you're thinking about is like being this

505
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: sexual icon to your significant other, Like you know, things

506
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: that you maybe were willing to do before you're just

507
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: not And then I remember going through a stage. So

508
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: if you guys are listening and this has ever happened

509
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: to you, I remember going through a stage where I

510
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: was like everything he did pissed me off because he

511
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: wasn't able to fix my concerns or my worries or

512
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: whatever it was, or anything he said about my clothes

513
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: or my body or any like. I just wasn't in

514
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: a place to hear it. And I think you have

515
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: to have those hard conversations. And now we've set up

516
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: like people joke, but I'm like, we've set up a

517
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: set schedule.

518
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I get on that? Like? What is? They

519
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: share it with me?

520
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay? So the sex schedule is like we know our

521
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: prime times when to have sex. Star So like, I

522
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: don't are your kids in preschool yet?

523
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: It's starting next week? Yes?

524
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: Okay? So well, first off, have you guys had have

525
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: you have you gotten in yet?

526
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Have we gotten into preschool?

527
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: No? Have you gotten it in?

528
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? Oh yeah, I've two I've two years down

529
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: the line now. So it was you know, it's crazy

530
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: because also I think it was Aaron that was like

531
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: just that sex for two years. It was really only

532
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: a year because I mean, I well yeah, it was.

533
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: It was about a year postpartum that I was kind

534
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: of in this like funk. But yeah, watched the show. Guys,

535
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: we don't do it on TV, but like, you.

536
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: Know, it's still going to be a bathtub scene. I

537
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: really hope, because I love when housewives do bathtub scenes.

538
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: No, there is no bus. That's a little too expated.

539
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: But we we being on the show and talking about

540
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: this stuff actually lit like uh, you know, a fire

541
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: rounder my ass because I was like, hey, like we

542
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: got to get we got to get ourselves back on track.

543
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: And it's very easy to get comfortable and to like,

544
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, right the wave of reading a book in

545
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: bed and pulling us. I mean it's very easy. It's

546
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: very comfortable. But I needed this to happen, you know,

547
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: you know.

548
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 2: And plus like even as you're watching in back, you're like, oh,

549
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: these are things I can do differently. I remember seeing

550
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: that too. But essentially the sex schedule is we know

551
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: once the kids go to school and before we like

552
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: start work, like after we've done our workout is like

553
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: our best time. So we have like we don't actually

554
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: have in the calendar, but like the morning of to

555
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: kind of get the other person in the mood we

556
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: write one like we say wiki because we when we

557
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: were so broke when we first started dating, the bed

558
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: would always go like I likecky, So we say wiki,

559
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 2: like at nine point thirty. And so then it's like

560
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: this like running joke as we're trying to get the

561
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: kids ready for school or head out to work or

562
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, and that we know we're going

563
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: to meet, and then it's we kind of hold ourselves

564
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: accountable to doing it, and then it just becomes easy

565
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: and it's like effortless and it's like, Okay, we know

566
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: we're doing this, and then once you do it, you

567
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: always like it. But it's getting to do it right.

568
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: It got too active, like doing it because by the

569
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean, you're so tired and

570
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: you're like god damn, Like this is a lot. I

571
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: don't want to do bedroom acrobatics, you know right now?

572
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: Like yeah, And also like the hardest part, which guys, listen,

573
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: it's talking to your significant other about what you like

574
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: now because that changes also after you have kids, Like

575
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: there are certain things that I maybe liked before that

576
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: I didn't like, you know that I don't particularly love

577
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: now or vice versa, like it's just opening the dialogue.

578
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you talking about it, But do you

579
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: think that How's Povett felt about watching the show back?

580
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: Because you guys do have that like bickering, you know.

581
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: I feel like he's he's got the same sense of

582
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: dry sense of humor that you do, which is why

583
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: you guys get each other. But I don't know that

584
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: necessarily people see it, even the Vietnam and going for

585
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: the sandwich and all that kind of stuff.

586
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: So's he's amazing. I true, Like when we when we

587
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: signed up to be on the show, I told him

588
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: you are going to be the breakout star. Like he's

589
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: so likable, he's so funny. People love his humor. And

590
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: by the way he's been ranking there's something called the

591
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: Real Housewives Power Ranking that a different Ira does. He's

592
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: been in the top three for the past three weeks.

593
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not even on the cost And that's

594
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: how That's how much like I knew people were going

595
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: to love him. He's really funny. He's the best partner

596
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: in all of this. He truly is. And he knew

597
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: how important it was for me to share, you know,

598
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: all the struggles we go through as women, and he

599
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: took a he took a backseat, and he can kind

600
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: of let me air out all that personal stuff on

601
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: national TV. But was so amazing about it.

602
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: Well that's great, And then where are you with thinking

603
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: if you want to go through the journey again?

604
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you know more than anything, it's

605
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: not easy. I can't get pregnant naturally, So I have

606
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: to go through the whole like shit again, you know,

607
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: it's it's going to be tough. I really want to

608
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know if he's mentally there yet,

609
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: and I have to respect that, Like, I'm never going

610
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: to push it on him. I think he's he's completely traumatized.

611
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: Our twins are crazy, and so I'd like a person

612
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: into the mix. It's going to be in my push

613
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: him over the edge. But it's TBD. We haven't said

614
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: yes or we haven't said no yet. But it's a conversation.

615
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: It's a conversation. It's an open conversation, which then you

616
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: could you could also you know, I don't know, would

617
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: be like me. I really thought I could never get

618
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: pregnant naturally. I went through all this idea of all

619
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: this whatever, and then at age thirty nine, randomly got pregnant.

620
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: Uh didn't know I was pregnant till fifteen weeks, Like, yes,

621
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: I had no idea. Everybody on the cast at Beverly

622
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Hills thought I had mold poisoning because I kept saying,

623
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: like I feel sick.

624
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: I never what the hell anyway?

625
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: So I was like, there's no way I'm pregnant, So

626
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: you never But like either way that I do, like

627
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: how much that you share and what But did you

628
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: get your way on the sixty thousand dollars of Montessori school?

629
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. No, I lost that. I mean, He's always

630
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: been a win when it comes to like making sense,

631
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: you know. But what's funny about that. Another thing that

632
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: people like probably don't get about me is when I'm

633
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: making an argument, I go into the brain of it.

634
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: So when I brought up Tom Cruise, his favorite movie

635
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: is Top Gun, and I was like, oh, if I say,

636
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: why you brought up.

637
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: Like he didn't even see his daughter anymore?

638
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: I know, But I knew if I brought up the

639
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: fact that his favorite I mean his Tom Quise is

640
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: not his favorite actor, but that's his favorite movie. So

641
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: maybe if I make the connection he'll be like a

642
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 1: little bit more like open to it, and no, I

643
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: still lost it. I mean he's very practical. I still

644
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: lost it.

645
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: But you gave it a good shot. So we have

646
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: some rapid fire fan questions to ask you. Okay, who

647
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: has the most to answer to for at the reunion?

648
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna have to be Erin.

649
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: Aaron. See, I think Aaron's like a shitster, but like I,

650
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: I kind of appreciate it, Like she keeps the story moving.

651
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: She repeats ship multiple times, like I feel like you

652
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: kind of need that. Yeah, true, it makes sense. Okay,

653
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: who from the cast has the best fashion?

654
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a toss up between Si and Uber.

655
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: I think they have a very very cool individual style.

656
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: And I know the fan favorite is Jenna, but Jenna

657
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: just was dNaM all the time, like anyone can do that.

658
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: She looks amazing, She's always rocking. But I think in

659
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: terms of like actually tapping into like trends and stuff,

660
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: it's going to be Uberan inside.

661
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So then now I hate to ask it, but

662
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: the worst fashion?

663
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone has the worst fashion. I

664
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: think that we all have our own individual styles. Some

665
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: styles resonate more than others to me. So I think

666
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: that like someone like a Genaine Errand, like you know,

667
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: they are very very like go next door and how

668
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: they dress.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying they're basic.

670
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: You said they were basic.

671
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: No, I'm basic.

672
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I think that I think that they do with what

673
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: they dress, how they feel comfortable. I will wear sequence

674
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: that poke me in the off and I don't care

675
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: because I just want to look more and more.

676
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: So who was telling the truth and cheesegate?

677
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta tell you, I don't know. It was

678
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: such a cluster of like different viewpoints and so many

679
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: conversations happened, and I wasn't part of everything. But I

680
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: think it's gonna it's gonna be aired out at the reunion.

681
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, fine, Who would you let decorate

682
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: your home? Jenna or Aaron?

683
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Jenna? I like Marble, that's why.

684
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Okay, who would you let style you? Jenna or Cy?

685
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: Oh?

686
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: I would say, si, who has the best sense of humor?

687
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: And who has the worst?

688
00:35:53,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: Uba has the best sense of humor? I the best? Actually, friend.

689
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: Bren is good in her confessionals.

690
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: It is so good. It's a toss up between Uber

691
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: and Bran. I think the different types of humor. Uber

692
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: is very witty, but Brynn just her delivery is like

693
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: on point like she is. She is like Chris Rock funny.

694
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: She's so funny.

695
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: But would you be annoyed if Brenn said to Povet

696
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: what she said to Aaron's husband at the renewal vows

697
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: or whatever?

698
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: It was much worse to pu It to be fair, like,

699
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: I I know, I mean what I'm saying is Brin

700
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: there is there is literally not one bone in her

701
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: body that is intentionally trying to get your man. Like

702
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: she's just funny, She's.

703
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: Trying to be funny, She's just okay, worse humor.

704
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: Then I think Aaron needs to work on her delivery.

705
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: I can meaning of timing?

706
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: Ill, How did I know for season two? Which cast

707
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: member do you feel will come back pandering to fan reaction?

708
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: Like you know how some people will read what is

709
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: said about them on Twitter and then they come back

710
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: that new person. Yeah, I think it'll be like that.

711
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. Man, I don't know.

712
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone really because we are so like

713
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't care what people anything, anyone cares what people

714
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: think of them on this coast. I really don't.

715
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: I do love that we see you guys actually natural.

716
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: You're not all glammed out twenty four to seven when

717
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: you're at home with your kids. You're actually at home

718
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: with your kids. Kids are doing regular things, throwing fits,

719
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: being their pants, like whatever it may be.

720
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: We don't have time, And I think that was one

721
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: of the one of the things that we said as

722
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: a group. It's like, we're not gonna sit in broad

723
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: daylight with a full face of makeup and hair done,

724
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: nails done, everything like it just we don't have the

725
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: time to do that. We don't have two hours in

726
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: our data to look that way.

727
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: So is brand always wearing real fur I don't know

728
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: if it's real, but she does love it, and she

729
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: has a fur on. I feel like it's one hundred

730
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: degrees and she has a fur on. I'm like, what

731
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: is happening?

732
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: It's so funny. The best line was when Uber was like,

733
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: Brent looks like she's from the Mississippi River, like down

734
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: She's like down in the Mississippi. Or she looks like

735
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: a pimp, like down in the Mississippi, or something to

736
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: that effect. But it was hilarious. It was so funny.

737
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: And does Uba ever get into it with anybody this season?

738
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: Because she seems just like so cool and chill. But

739
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: I want to know, is there ever a moment?

740
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: Yes? There is? Oh, yes there is. Do you haven't

741
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: see the trailer.

742
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: I have seen the trailer, but I feel like it's

743
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: they always trick you. I feel like the trailer leads

744
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: you to believe things are going down, and then it's

745
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: like somebody got a phone call from their realm and

746
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: they're upset, and like, I mean, I just watched Salt

747
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: Lake City, this whole flash forward and where I was

748
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: thinking in my head it was about gin Shaw, but

749
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: really it's about something else that happens later, and I'm like, oh, damn,

750
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: it that wrong, So I can't trust it.

751
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: You got catfish? No. In our case, the trailer and

752
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: what you've seen on the trailer is real life stuff. Yeah,

753
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: it happens, and it's that it's that dramatic.

754
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to keep watching. How many episodes do

755
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: we have left?

756
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: So we're episode nine. I'm not sure, but I think

757
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: it's at least another five or six. I mean, I

758
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: don't know if the reunion counts in those.

759
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, do you think you have two or do

760
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: you think you have two or three reunions?

761
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good question. I'm gonna go with two.

762
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: But let's watch this.

763
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: Space because I want three because that's yeah, I know,

764
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: I know, I like, I.

765
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Told you, I'm hiding behind Andy, so whatever that means.

766
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, we we appreciate you coming on

767
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: so much. We're loving watching you. Thank you for keeping

768
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: us entertained. And you, guys, is there any products or

769
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: anything other than the gen Alliance collapse that you guys

770
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: are all going to put on your instagrams? Is there

771
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: anything that you want to promote or talk about.

772
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: My lashes today? Actually no, I mean, look, I'm launching

773
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: my my e comms platform is bringing Indian designers to

774
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: the US and the UK, which I'm really excited about.

775
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm all about the fashions and this is really my

776
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: baby that I've been building for for a while now.

777
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited about that and I haven't got

778
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: into the whole branding world yet, but I wanted, Yeah,

779
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: let's let's talk.

780
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's the next thing, and just do

781
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: it authentically whatever it is. That you believe in. As

782
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: long as it comes off natural, then people want you, know,

783
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: they want to relate to you. And so I appreciate

784
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: all that you've done and being so open and authentic

785
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 2: with us, and help you get messy later again too.

786
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna happen. Don't work, Okay, don't work. I

787
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: won't let you guys down, all right, thank you, thanks

788
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: so much time. M hm

789
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Speaker 2: M hm