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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everyone? Welcome to point Game presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: we all love. The crown is yours. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: CJ Tol'donno, you may know me from House of Highlights

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Speaker 1: follow through, but I'm joined here by the one and

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Speaker 1: only my co host, John Wall.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling man?

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Speaker 3: It was good man.

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Speaker 4: I'm super excited man, Just happy to be back for

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Speaker 4: another episode. See it back chain on a LEXI see

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Speaker 4: I got that UK gear own self.

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Speaker 3: You know what's going on today?

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a very special episode. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it was our intention to be like a

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Speaker 1: Kentucky pop but like you're your your history with the

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Speaker 1: with the school is so rich. And then you know

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Speaker 1: Boogie was on last week, and I wanna, I wanna

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Speaker 1: tease our guests coming up in the show, our third episode,

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Speaker 1: but we already got Basketball Hall of Famer the legend himself,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky head coach John Caliperry joining us. How excited are

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Speaker 1: you to talk to John today?

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Speaker 3: Super exciting man.

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Speaker 4: You know he's a coach I played for, somebody that

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed played for, enjoy my time at get Tech.

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Speaker 4: You I always had a great relationship with him, talking

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Speaker 4: to him throughout the years of him coaching, And like

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Speaker 4: I said, you see me in a lot of games

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Speaker 4: this year, just trying to cheer on the guys and

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Speaker 4: be able to support him. And I know how much

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Speaker 4: it means to him to be able to have a

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Speaker 4: relationship with all his old guys that used to play

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Speaker 4: for him, and we have that kind of connection where

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Speaker 4: we laugh and mill you know, I mean, we stick together.

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Speaker 4: We're a brotherhood, and we all try to support each

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Speaker 4: other throughout the NBA, college, overseas, wherever we're at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got already so many alumni or so many

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Speaker 1: alumni in the league. So I know we got March

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Speaker 1: Maddness coming up and we're going to talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about that. But like it's crazy his influence on

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Speaker 1: some of the biggest players in the league right now.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really excited about that interview. But I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about this past week in the NBA. You said,

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind people how much are you

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Speaker 1: watching the NBA. What's your setup, like at the crib

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: I got this big TV in my man cave and

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Speaker 4: I split the screen into four, so I'm watching four

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Speaker 4: me and March Maddens, you know, me March Madden's coming out,

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Speaker 4: maybe to see all the games that when they had

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Speaker 3: So you know, the NBA is different.

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Speaker 4: No mean, they don't really have too many games at

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Speaker 4: the same time throughout the playoffs. But I may have

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Speaker 4: this sit already and last night I was locked in

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Speaker 4: watching games and stuff like that. So it's super exciting

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Speaker 4: me and I just love watching the games. All my

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Speaker 4: friends like, bro, how are you watching four games at

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Speaker 4: one time? How are you paying attention? But that's all

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Speaker 4: I care about, man, I just love watching the game

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Speaker 4: of basketball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this past week was crazy. It was a big

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Speaker 1: But this past week it was like the dude is

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Speaker 1: So I know everyone always talks about this, but I

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Speaker 3: Each his own? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like to whatever era, if you watch basketball or seen

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Speaker 4: But some people you see young guys to day called

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Speaker 4: I think it's all about the era you watched and

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Speaker 4: nothing but appreciate his greatness while he's here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your first year you came in right

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Speaker 1: when it was his first year in Miami. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so did you have any like specific stories of some

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Speaker 4: I think it was like the first year was kind

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Speaker 4: is Bron taking it over to the Alpha dolt. You know,

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Speaker 4: Me and d Wade had already won one in those

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Speaker 3: So I think they were trying to figure all that out.

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Speaker 4: But they still was a great team in highlight, waiting

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Speaker 4: well because I knew playing them, everybody was going to

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Speaker 4: I remember coming to Miami, they had some fire food.

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Speaker 4: I mean before the game, they had some fire food.

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Speaker 4: I think when Bron left the food menu changed because

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Speaker 4: it was definitely some great battles, and uh there was

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Speaker 3: Man, it was definitely a special team.

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Speaker 4: Shit, they went to four straight finals, so they'll let

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Speaker 4: There was a lockout year we played sixty six games.

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Speaker 4: I think that's one of it. It was like, all right,

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Speaker 4: Now d Wade took a back seat. Uh, and you

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Speaker 4: see where the rest was history from there.

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Speaker 1: Dump all right, well, let's move on another big story

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Speaker 1: that happened this past week. Caitlyn Clark, and I would

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Speaker 1: love you know your thoughts. One, We're going to see

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Speaker 1: if she's just declared for the w NBA Draft, so

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear if you have any advice for

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Speaker 1: But what was your reaction when you know when you

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Speaker 3: I think she's special man, one of a con for sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like we've seen so many people come in

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Speaker 4: They deserve it. I mean, they're just as talented as us.

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Speaker 4: They just do it more fundamental. They're not really dunking

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Speaker 4: So I kind of talked to you a little bit

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Speaker 4: She broke a record and nobody thought would be broken.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy because Pistol Pete broke it without shooting threes,

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Speaker 4: but that's just the era he was in to average forty.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy in three years, but.

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Speaker 4: For her to come and do it, like not only

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Speaker 4: That just lets you know how special people are advancing

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Speaker 4: it ain't just scoring for me, Like she's helping her

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Speaker 4: And look at a small town like I'm a small

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Speaker 1: John, can you speak on just like what she might

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Speaker 1: being that top dog in college and then coming to

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Speaker 3: Oh, one thing, I.

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Speaker 4: Think she has more media spotlight, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: like I always had a little bit, but social media

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Speaker 4: was not at the place it is now, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like you always, like I always tell somebody

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Speaker 4: it's a gift and the curse to be who you

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Speaker 4: are when you're on that spotlight in pedal stool, because

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Speaker 4: it's always a camera or somebody watching you twenty four

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Speaker 4: to seven. And uh, that's something we'd have to get

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Speaker 4: she did four years of college, so she's very, very experienced,

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean it's a difference for me where

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Speaker 4: I mean, you get a lot of free time to

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I get to speak with John Wall.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited because we had Boogie on last week

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Speaker 1: So I guess I wanted to start things off by saying,

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Speaker 5: Well, the first thing was, oh my gosh, is he fast?

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Speaker 5: But the best moment was when I had his mom.

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Speaker 2: That was the best moment because when she and I

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Speaker 5: Just a good lady, that really smart.

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Speaker 2: I asked John when he came with me, I said,

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Speaker 2: He took five him and four others. My whole team

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Speaker 5: So I've given you another story.

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Speaker 2: So I said that Eric LEDs how fast is John Wall?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, he's not faster than me, but he's fast.

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Speaker 4: Hey, coach Booge and I chopped it up last week.

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Speaker 4: We had so many memories. Honestly, we want to thank

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Speaker 4: I just want to know, like when you're recruiting a player,

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Speaker 5: John. It wasn't just you.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to coach everybody and give everybody a

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Speaker 2: When you're a three star player, No disrespect, I think

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Speaker 2: The minute you step on this campus, John Wall, you're

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Speaker 5: Am I right? John?

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Speaker 4: We everybody's super Bowl. You told us that when we

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Speaker 2: Hey how about this though, John, Every player tried to

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Speaker 5: You figure out who can play in wars than who.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't remember, but John will tell you

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Speaker 2: But John, how great was he here?

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Speaker 2: the blessing is our fans are engaged. They support, but

438
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 2: if you struggle, they're still engaged. So you lose a couple,

439
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 2: they're still engaged. You didn't live through social media like

440
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: these guys have to live. Can you imagine what they

441
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: did when John was here the game ended. We had

442
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 2: to have police horses beside the lodge so that they

443
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: could go in without getting accosted. Now it's more social

444
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 2: media driven and all that kind of stuff. You got

445
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: media trying to get clicks, so they'll say anything, even

446
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 2: not true.

447
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 5: He's not coming back, he's not here. It would have

448
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 5: been crazy with you, you know that. Else would have

449
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 5: been crazy and I l oh and I l would

450
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 5: have made it crazy.

451
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: Because do you think you would have had these guys

452
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: longer if you had nil back?

453
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: Then I would have told John Wall you're nuts, you're

454
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: the number one pick, you go, You're not coming back.

455
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 2: I would have tore up a scholarship. But there were

456
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: other guys that I would have said, you're making a

457
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: lot of money. Near what you're going to say. But

458
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: if they chose to lose, John, Okay, I would have

459
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: helped them and done whatever. But you know back then, Yeah,

460
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: let me say the greatest thing in all this, every

461
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: one of these kids, the first thing they did is

462
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: they took care of them. Every one of them took

463
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: care of them. Mom, That's the first thing they did.

464
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 2: So you know it would have been different. They would

465
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: have all how about this, John, None of you had

466
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: a car. None of you had got cars. They got

467
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: a parking lot of cars.

468
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

469
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: They lit, man, They lit. Now that's one question I

470
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you to a coach.

471
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you, has it ever been

472
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 4: a player that you wanted to stay one more year

473
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 4: that you possibly would have won a championship with but

474
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 4: you let him go? And at the same time, have

475
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 4: you ever had a player that wanted to take the

476
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: next step but you knew it's probably better for him

477
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 4: to come back for another year, but you let him

478
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: do it, make his own choice.

479
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you one guy that I think would

480
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: have changed a team. One guy that I wanted to

481
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: go and I wasn't sure. Yeah, Daniel needed to stay,

482
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: and I think if he stayed, it would have helped

483
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: him in his career and it would have helped them team.

484
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: You know, I've had other guys that I talked to

485
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: parents and I don't want to mention names, but I

486
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: talked to parents and I said, are you sure? And

487
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: the thing came back with, well, they're all leaving, and

488
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: he feels he has to now that young man didn't

489
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: have the career that you guys had, like he needed

490
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: another year. I got a couple of guys on this

491
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: year's team that probably could use another year. But you know,

492
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to support whatever their decision is. But I'll

493
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: tell them are you sure, because there's two things you

494
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: have to be NBA no boys allowed, NBA no boys allowed.

495
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: Are you mentally ready? And are you physically ready? You

496
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: think of all you guys, Jay Walk, you were all

497
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: physically and mentally ready to go. That's why you all

498
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: did well. But if you're not mentally ready, what will

499
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: happen in that league? If you're not physically ready.

500
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: It's like a bully taking something front of your hospital.

501
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: Is over, and then what.

502
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: Would the other coach do every you're out there physically

503
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: you can't handle it attacking you every time you are

504
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: you saying every time or ready other time, every play,

505
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 2: every place, they'll put you in a switch, they'll scream,

506
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: they'll do something to where you're the guy. So if

507
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: you're not mentally or physically ready, you shouldn't leave. And

508
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: now then I help. It's all ego. Sometimes we family ego.

509
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: Some of them, well man, because he played more.

510
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 5: He should have played more. He was better than your son.

511
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 5: But your son is fine. Maybe take a little more time.

512
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 5: And so that's the thing I worry about that some

513
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 5: kids may leave when now there's no reason to no

514
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 5: reason too if you want to stay, and you need

515
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 5: to say. Look, Willie Carley Stein came to me.

516
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: Kind of like Patrick did and said I want to

517
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: stay another year. And you know me like, why would

518
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: you want to stay another year? And Willie Coley said,

519
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm not mentally ready to do this yet. And the

520
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: second thing, I couldn't believe he said it, and I

521
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: think he might have been lying, but he said, and

522
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying school right now, and coach, you know.

523
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 5: I need boss.

524
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: So I said, Okay, Patrick's thing was I haven't shot

525
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: a three point shot. I've not played in an NCAA

526
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: tournament game, and I'm gonna graduate in three years.

527
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 5: All right, those are I'm glad.

528
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: I'm glad you let him come back. We needed to.

529
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: I know.

530
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: I wish Jody would have came back too, though that

531
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: would have been specially.

532
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: We wouldn't have lost that game where we went one

533
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: for twenty two because I don't let him shoot it

534
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: stepping over half court.

535
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Coach you, I mean, the numbers don't lie. With this

536
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: last All Star game. I think the number is you

537
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: coach thirty percent of them. And then we also had

538
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: Daron Fox snubbed, we had Jamal Murray snubbed, Tyler Hero.

539
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: So what are you doing different You.

540
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: Had John Wall, you had DeMarcus Cousin, right, but like

541
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: this year's also guys that were in that game.

542
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 5: What do you so?

543
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: What are you doing differently that leads as a as

544
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: a college head coach, that leads to the success of

545
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: these NBA players.

546
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: I would hope they would say their first year in

547
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: the NBA was with us, with the terminology how they're trained.

548
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 2: And I bet to John Wall didn't get coached one

549
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: more play the way I coached them, And I'm not

550
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: saying I'm good. I'm saying I'm hard. They go to

551
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: the NBA. It is an exchange. We're paying you to

552
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: do this. If you don't do it, we'll go get

553
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: somebody else. My thing was, no, I'm voting you to

554
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: a high standard, John Wall. If you're my best player,

555
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm harder on you than everybody else. You want to

556
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: tell him the story. You came in and told me

557
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: you loved me. In the locker room, I was breaking

558
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: it down to him. I told him, I said, I

559
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: came tomorrow like, man, coach, I love you, said, man,

560
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: what happened?

561
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: What's going on? I was like, man, I ain't having

562
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: fun and you can tell and then you can tell them.

563
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: So so he comes in.

564
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 5: I'm sitting in after a game. He said, coach, you

565
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 5: know I love you. What you do? What you're saying,

566
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 5: he said, I said, I'm not having fun. You know what,

567
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 5: You're not having fun because they're guarding you under the

568
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 5: basket and you're missing shots. That ain't fun.

569
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you got to get in it.

570
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 6: And then he makes his game winner against Miami. We're

571
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 6: getting deep by eighteen. My first game in Kentucky, they're saying,

572
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 6: Cow's a bust.

573
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 5: You can't coach. This is crazy. John Wall runs down

574
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 5: the floor and makes a buzzer beater.

575
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: You remember that, John, And my first game win I

576
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 4: ever made. Remember you said you never see me do that.

577
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: You see you do everything else. I haven't seen myself

578
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: do that. I never had to be in that position,

579
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: But that's what But that's what I was saying, Like

580
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: it's like it's just different, like when you get there.

581
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: It's like I felt like I had to be a pro,

582
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like high school, you work out,

583
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: you do those type of things.

584
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: But we held to a standard.

585
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: I remember just in the summer time, we had to

586
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: be on the line at six am for twenty suicides

587
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: in twenty minutes. Remember that, I told her. I went

588
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: back to my dorm. I said, ma, I think I

589
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: picked the wrong school.

590
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: I ain't never did no.

591
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 4: Conditioning like this ever, but it prepared us to another

592
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 4: level to make us feel like we was in college students.

593
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: Like we felt like we was pros, Like we had

594
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: to be pros every day.

595
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like you have so many

596
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: great guys that have life familiar, so many guys that

597
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: is selling so well in the league. My question I

598
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: want to ask you is this, because I know everybody

599
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: used to hate you about this. You started this one

600
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: and done thing, and we talked about this before. Now

601
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: everybody wants to do the one it done? Like, how

602
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 4: do you keep your confidence so strong that you knew

603
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: you was doing what's right for the kids and what's

604
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: best for you and now everybody want to follow your train?

605
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 5: Now?

606
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: Well, what.

607
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 5: What I knew? Start with Dewaan Wagner.

608
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: I knew that the way I played him, he would

609
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: be in the best draft position and coming back would

610
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: not help him.

611
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: It would have helped me, but not him.

612
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: And what we found out when we started doing it,

613
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: Tyreek Evans came in, should I go or stay? And

614
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: I said to him what I said to DeMarcus, if

615
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: you want to do what's right for me and my family,

616
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: you should stay. If you want to do what's right

617
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: for you and your family, you should leave. And it

618
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: never hurt us. You guys all left and we went

619
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: to the final four. That group all left, and you

620
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: know we went to won the national title. If one

621
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: kid would have came back from that room the national title.

622
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: We'd have been a sweet sixteen, Elite eight, and then

623
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: we won thirty eight straight before we lost the I mean,

624
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: it never hurt us as long as we were getting

625
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: five star players that understand you're gonna be chased.

626
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 5: You're not chasing anymore. You're gonna be chased. And you

627
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 5: know what I.

628
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: Just said, Look, I'm doing it. I knew I took heat.

629
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: I took he here at Kentucky.

630
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: We can't do it this way.

631
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: You care too much about the kids, and I get it,

632
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: but after they saw it for five or six years,

633
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: it's like kind of exciting, and these kids are all

634
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 2: doing well. I just didn't want to do anything at

635
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: the expense of the kids. And I'm trying to do

636
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: the same. You know, one year I had to play

637
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: two groups that I want to do it now. But

638
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: that's the only way I could take care of ten kids.

639
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: That meant they were all really good. By the way,

640
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 2: we have Alex Portras got a belch palsy, So all

641
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: the people listening he's over in Europe.

642
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: He's gonna have to take some time. But pray for

643
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 5: him if you get a chance.

644
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Coach, I don't want to relive bad memories here, but

645
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you if you remember in twenty

646
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: ten tournament times coming up, So if you remember that

647
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: who you fell to, the specific player. I know we

648
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: all know the team, but the specific player that you

649
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: fell to in twenty ten, and how much that that

650
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: loss sort of bothers you still?

651
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 5: Well, First of all, I always knew.

652
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: We could dominate you physically athletically, but we weren't an

653
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: execution team. We just bowled you over and went matter

654
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: of fact, I called John coach, woulden't And I said,

655
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: you watched us? He said, yeah, coach, And I said

656
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: we're not a great execution team.

657
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 5: What do you think?

658
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: You know what he told me, John, You play too people.

659
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: You have to play six guys and all that. Well,

660
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't do that with this team. And he also said,

661
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: but I understand why you're doing it, because kids will

662
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: transfer and all that.

663
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: He said. When I was doing this, I played six

664
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 5: or seven seventh man played a little bit.

665
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: If you wanted to earn it, you earned it in practice.

666
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: But that game we played a really good team the

667
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: game before and beat them really good. But we missed

668
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: almost every three and then we come in the next game,

669
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: they go one three one and we're like one for sixteen,

670
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: what you're gonna lose on that?

671
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: And it was the one Achilles heel we had.

672
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: There were times in the season where Whether and Eric

673
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: got in foul trum that killed us. So he was

674
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: in foul trouble which made the game close, and they

675
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: played Westerrgin.

676
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: You played the heck of a game. Heck of a game.

677
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 5: I think if we got by that one, John been

678
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: kind of.

679
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: Been kind of scary because I think we would have

680
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: most teams wouldn't have tried to play one three one.

681
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: Now, I think I think coach Huckins did a great

682
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: job because he started off. He started off in man

683
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: and probably after the first two three minutes he said no,

684
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: I can't do this no more, and we just we

685
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: just were like, oh for twenty to start off. Like

686
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: I watched the game the other day, we started off

687
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: like overtween, I'm like this one be his Like.

688
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: It was stunning that we missed that many. But you

689
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 5: know what, if it were best to seven, what John, we.

690
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: Would definitely win that series. Indeed got it. It was Yeah,

691
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: it was one game, one game.

692
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: Coach do you remember the player whose idea was to

693
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: play that one three one.

694
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 5: Well, I wasn't in their huddles, so I don't know.

695
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 5: It may have been the coach of the Celtics.

696
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: Yep, that's all he's going for it.

697
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: Joe Missoula.

698
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me say this, Joe Mazzuola was shooting

699
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: about fifteen percent from the three.

700
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we were saying, let him go, We're gonna

701
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 5: help off him. What he do?

702
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: John Man, he made like four or five and Man, David,

703
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: they was like the first half they didn't make a

704
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: two point basket.

705
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, what in the world.

706
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: These guys aren't supposed to make threes? But you know

707
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: they were the players like everybody. We played them again

708
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: and Brandon I beat them pretty good. We played them

709
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: again with that thirty eight no team and beat them

710
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: pretty good. But they beat us on that night.

711
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: Yep, they won the best night because I remember the

712
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: next year y'all beat them and DeAndre Liggins was walking

713
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: shaking hands.

714
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: He's like, do the John wall dance, Neill, do to

715
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: John wad dance, Neil.

716
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: I remember that, but I'm glad they got some get back,

717
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 4: But that still is like the game that haunts because

718
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: we had a special team and we wanted to go.

719
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: But like you said, in that tournament, it takes one game.

720
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: It's just one game and it's over with yes, and it's.

721
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: You gotta We were prepared for the game, but it's

722
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: just something happens, foul trouble and injury. You hit a

723
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: bad spell, which is what happens in that tournament at times.

724
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: And like I said, my teams have done well. We

725
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: I've had one blip, but just about every coach that's

726
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: coached in this even they've had one or two blips.

727
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 6: You have.

728
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: Hey, I got this last question for you, coach. Your

729
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: team has so many weapons this year, right, I know

730
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: this is the hardest part is like you say, you

731
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: got to go t D Like, how do you decide

732
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: who to play, who to rotate at time? Because you

733
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: know I'll be at the games. I come and see

734
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: and I'll be like, well, I wonder what he gonna

735
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 4: do here because I wouldn't know what to do with

736
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: the town you have. I was telling the CJ, I

737
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: feel like this might be your deepest team with bigs

738
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 4: that could all be versatile, a lot of guards, and

739
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: I think it's probably your best shooting team, I think,

740
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: with how y'all can shoot the ball to hot clip.

741
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 5: We are. But here's the difference.

742
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: Every team we're playing, their average age is twenty three

743
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: or twenty four grad students COVID years, and our average

744
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: age is nineteen. So that's one thing. But you asked

745
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: that question about how do you decide? First of all,

746
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: because we have a bunch of guys. If someone has

747
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: it going, you know what I do, John, I just

748
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: leave him in. So last game, I sawd Antonio Reeves

749
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: our leading score with to go, and the reason I

750
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: did it was because he hadn't had to break it

751
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: and I wanted him to be able to finish the game.

752
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 5: And then I put justin at four dig z and

753
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, that group of five played so well.

754
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: I didn't sug. Just finish the game. There's no reason

755
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 5: to sug. So that's about how we'll end up doing this.

756
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: And I had I told everybody John Sits, he's about

757
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: five rows from me in the North Carolina game. I

758
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: mean five seats for me, not five rows, five seats

759
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 2: right there. And he looks at me and he goes

760
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: calm down, calm down your five let him go, Robert Dillingham,

761
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm kind of coaching him like I coached John, holding

762
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: him to a really high standard. So he comes in

763
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: and sees me and says, you coaching me different. You're

764
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: coaching me different, and I go, I am all my

765
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: former players, Aaron Fox, Jamal Murray, all of these guys

766
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: John Wall call me and say, why didn't you let

767
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 2: me play the way you're letting him play. Just shoot

768
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: and play and go and make some mistakes and you

769
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: leave him in. You think I'm coaching you different. Everybody

770
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: else thinks I'm treating you different and letting you go.

771
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: You got these butt backwards. So I am coaching some

772
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 5: of the guys. I gotta read Shepherd go on defense.

773
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: He has some defensive breakdowns that I want to choke him,

774
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: but he ends up with five steals because he's playing that.

775
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, five steals in two blocks.

776
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: I know he could.

777
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: Hey, let me just say this. You gotta get the

778
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: video of us at Indiana. They're going absolutely nuts. John

779
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: does a crossover and dunks the ball left handed over

780
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: like two guys, and everybody in the building just shat

781
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: down and said.

782
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 5: What just happened? I can't believe they didn't do speeds.

783
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 5: Then that would have been an speed.

784
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know Jordan Holes.

785
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: I remember Jordan Halls, he used to play for Indiana

786
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: Elite day or outlet the ball to me, I.

787
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: Thought, that's incredible advice that John had given the East

788
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: of the North Carolina game. So, and you guys are

789
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: known as guard University, and so I guess it's a

790
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: question for both of y'all. Do you think John has

791
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: a coaching future? Could he help your staff out or

792
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: do you think he's a coaching future anywhere.

793
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 5: If that's what he chose to do.

794
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he has a wealth of knowledge and he's

795
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: also gone through it.

796
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 5: And I have Kyler Julis right now. He's unbelievable. The

797
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: players go to him. Talk to me. I'm trying to

798
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 5: here's what I'm doing now with this team.

799
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Amateur, pro, amateur, professional, So when something happens, I'll say,

800
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: that's what a pro does.

801
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: And then the other one not talking, not ready, that's

802
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: an amateur. So don't think you're a professional, You're an amateur. Now.

803
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 5: I'm on these guys for that.

804
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: You have guys like Tyler who had to bust through

805
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: and do their thing, and he's been great.

806
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 5: If that's what John would choose to do, he'd be

807
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: great at it.

808
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: I would say, get on an NBA staff because of

809
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: Nil to transfer portal.

810
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 5: I'm not sure where this is all going, but.

811
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: You would be great around college kids because of the

812
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: resource and all the things that you've had.

813
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like what I talked to Tyler.

814
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: I love what he's doing because he's one of the

815
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 4: best point guards to come out of Kentuck King last

816
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: year's and like you said, nobody expected him to do

817
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 4: what he did at the level he did, and that's

818
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 4: how as he was and the way he played.

819
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

820
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: And I know he's helping DJ out a lot, you

821
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And that's dope and Read and

822
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: the other guys.

823
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's dope because I like for DJ is

824
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: different because DJ has been in the road where he's

825
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: always been a scorer's whole life to now he's learning

826
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: how to be a point guard and how to run

827
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: a team. And it's kind of being shaky for him

828
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: and difficult at times. So like, how you help him

829
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: get over that home.

830
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: I have him meet with Tyler and watch tape and talk.

831
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: But the greatest thing about DJ Wagner.

832
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: The most cut.

833
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: Whatever I tell him he does immediately. If I say

834
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: move the ball and cut hard, he moves the ball

835
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: and cuts hard. If we talk to him about defense,

836
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: what he's got to do, he does at that moment.

837
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: Really intelligent, really smart, a quick twitch. But you're right

838
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: some of his habits. Or I'm just driving to score. Well,

839
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: there's a seven foot two guys.

840
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 5: You got to drive for another.

841
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: Reason, two three moves when you don't need two three moves,

842
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: just one move. Go buy the guy and score the

843
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: ball or create a shot.

844
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: I got to say this.

845
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: We talked Tyler Ewlis when he and his family came

846
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: in my office and we were recruiting him, and I

847
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: knew that he was good, but he was small. I

848
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: had coaches saying, now you finally got a four year

849
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: point guard. And when he was in my office, I

850
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: said to him, if you want to come here, don't

851
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: be planning on staying four years.

852
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: I don't know when you'll leave, but you ain't staying

853
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 5: here four years.

854
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: You do know that, right?

855
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: He said, where do I sign? I just wanted someone

856
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: to believe in me. I wanted someone to know I

857
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: could do this.

858
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: I remember he came on his visit.

859
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: It was him D Booking and Julie oguf Whiz playing

860
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 4: pickup and I I had so much respect for him

861
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: in D Book because uh, D Book had got they

862
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: was getting into a book. You know how they do

863
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: in the battling going back and forth, and they didn't

864
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: back down. And I was like, you know what, I

865
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: can tell this kid from Chicago. And then D book

866
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: was not scared to guard me. And I was like,

867
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: this kid got a chance to be special. So I

868
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 4: knew for when you signed those guys, I knew there

869
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: would be some good for those guys. So I'm glad

870
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: that the books at the level he's at, and I'm

871
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: glad that Tyler got over the humps he's at and

872
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: he's able to build a coaching staff and build his

873
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: resume up.

874
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: And D Book the one thing I found out with

875
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: guys like you all stars, I mean, you're the best

876
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: in the world. Like I'm not talking just good, you're

877
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: the best in the world. You have to have an unbelievable,

878
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: other worldly self confidence that won't get shaken.

879
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 5: Now, it may get shaken, but you never let anybody know.

880
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: Devin Booker believes there is no better player in the him,

881
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna convince him if he took a

882
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: lie detective test, Jamal Murray, they took lie detective tests

883
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: and you said, are you the best player in the world? Yes,

884
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: And the lie detective test would say he's telling the

885
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: truth because you really believe it.

886
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: And you've got If you're gonna be that guy.

887
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxy, the guy he's busting through, you gotta have

888
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: out other worldly self confidence. That's almost like you're running

889
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: for president and no one can tell you you're not

890
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: the best person in the universe.

891
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 5: And so I've had those guys and they have to

892
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 5: build it. I can't.

893
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: And when I'm on them, it should never affect them.

894
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: A guy that loves you and he's gonna try to

895
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: help you, and he gets on you. If you break down,

896
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: you don't have the self confidence you need. You should

897
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: look and say, dude's crazy.

898
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: He's nuts.

899
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: You're hearing them say to me, I'm his best player,

900
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: maybe the best player to ever played for him.

901
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: He's saying shit to me, he's crazy. That's that other

902
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 5: worldly self confidence that you have to have.

903
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: And Devin had a dimnuty stepped on this campus at seventeen,

904
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: by the way, youngest player he and Michael kid Gilchrist

905
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: to get drafted seventeen year old moving it to the league.

906
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: Crazy.

907
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: One last question, coach, We appreciate your time. We'll let

908
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: you go after this boogie was on last week. We

909
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: had a clip kind of go viral because we were

910
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: talking about Big Blue Madness and the cherry picking, all

911
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: the players getting sort of introed. And he said that

912
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: you had a conversation with him right before that, and

913
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: I want to hear your side of the story. I

914
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: won't even tell you what he said, but do you remember.

915
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: Well, you got to tell me what he said, because

916
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: that was twelve how many years ago?

917
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: Fourteen years ago?

918
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: I just remember this coming down that I remember that.

919
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: He said you chewed him out, essentially, so I wanted

920
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: to make sure he wasn't, you know, exaggerating that. But

921
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: he went up there because he said, you talk to him.

922
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: He went up there and you, a stoneface, did nothing.

923
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: So do you remember that interaction at all?

924
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: He's probably was scared to death, but I will say

925
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: that it was. But I will say this, and I'll

926
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: tell the story that he hates that I give. We

927
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: were running those twenty twenties. The first day he stopped

928
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: after six. He's supposed to run twenty and he sat

929
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: down against the walls and my feet of fire, my.

930
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 5: Feeder of fire. I can't do this. And I walked

931
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: over very calmly, didn't I drive very calmly. Yeah, And

932
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: I said, you're a finger on fire. Yeah. Wow, Okay.

933
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Now I want you to know, if you can't complete

934
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: these twenty for twenties, you will never start you. I'll

935
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: play you, but you'll never start. Now you play well,

936
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: I'll play you thirty minutes. You don't, you'll play five.

937
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: You will never start here unless you make The next

938
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: day wat y'a.

939
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: He was out there running.

940
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 4: And held have seen it. He threw his shoes across

941
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 4: the court. I mean like were like, what in the world.

942
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: So Kyle didn't finish the story that day. He didn't finish.

943
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 4: He made him sit at half court and watch his run.

944
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: So I so, like I was telling you the last time,

945
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: we all mad, like man, we want to fight him,

946
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 4: but like we can't beat him up, like we gotta

947
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: jump in. So but the next day he came back

948
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: and finished. But he thought about he was like, man,

949
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: I want to transfer, but like, I don't think I'm

950
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: ready for this.

951
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: He like what you think? I said, I'm not leaving,

952
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: but that's something you you want to leave. And we

953
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: shared the dom together. But it was fun though.

954
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 5: You know, every player I've coached the first term want

955
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 5: to leave. That's this is hard. I'm not trying to

956
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 5: fake it. I'm not giving, I'm not promising. You gotta

957
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: take what you want. And a guy like John Wall.

958
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: You don't leave here by yourself. You take people with you.

959
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: You bring them together and say we're all leaving. And

960
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: that's what he's done and I've had other players do

961
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: the same.

962
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: Coach. We appreciate your time. Good look in the tournament.

963
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, love you John Wall. Everything I am today.

964
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: Nah you made me you may your legend. Appreciate you,

965
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: Coach bang.

966
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to point game time for our

967
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: final segment, Bucketer Brick. Just a reminder, Bucketer Brick is

968
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,839
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969
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972
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Speaker 1: is yours. Okay for anyone the first time listen to

973
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: Bucketer Brick. I'm gonna say an NBA statement, and if

974
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: you agree or if John agrees, you're gonna say Bucket.

975
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: And if you don't agree or disagree, you're gonna say Brick,

976
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: and you're gonna explain why. So, Uh, John, you ready?

977
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: The Celtics the Warriors, just as a reminder by fifty

978
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: two on Sunday, so they are favorites to win the

979
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: titles season with plus two thirty odds, meaning if you

980
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: bet one hundred, you're gonna win two hundred and thirty bucks.

981
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: So John, Bucketer Brick, the Celtics will win the NBA

982
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: Championship this season.

983
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: I say, Bucket, I think the moves they made this

984
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: summer was perfect for their team. Or they did a

985
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 4: couple of trades doing the deadline, and I think those

986
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: guys just have experience from being in the finals before,

987
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: like knowing what it really takes to win it now.

988
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: Then I think adding a guy like Drew Holliday that's

989
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: a great champion gonna help.

990
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: He's been through there.

991
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: He can keep them calm throughout the process and then

992
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 4: having a coach and Sam Counsell, you know that's been

993
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: there one championships as a player and knows what it takes.

994
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: I think they find a way to get over their hump.

995
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think Drew is gonna be like, who's

996
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna be that difference maker outside of you know, Tatum

997
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: and Brown doing their thing?

998
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 4: Oh, I think you got you got two guys. Maybe

999
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: apazingis that's definitely a difference maker. But I think also

1000
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: just Drew Holliday, you I mean his versa two, they

1001
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: reguard any position, kind of like a Marcus Smart was,

1002
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: but also just be able to knock down shots. He's

1003
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 4: probably taking the biggest sacrifice out of all those guys,

1004
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 4: if not really caring about scoring, but just doing the

1005
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 4: little things to help them win. And I think that

1006
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 4: was a big piece that they wanted to get whenever

1007
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: he hit the buy out market.

1008
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, moving on second one, Bucketer Brick Jordan

1009
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: Poole should be a starter. Bucketer Brick.

1010
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: Uh, that's a tricky question. I'll say, don't go fifty

1011
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: to fifty on me. I think Brick. I think Brick.

1012
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 4: I think he's a He's a selling in the role

1013
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 4: that he's in, you know what I mean, where he's

1014
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: being a primary ball handler, he's able to just to

1015
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 4: be able to create for himself and be free. I

1016
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 4: think a little bit in the start lineup to me,

1017
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: Cooles was getting to go in Tias Jones with a

1018
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: true point. They trying to develop Danny Ivy a lot.

1019
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 4: He's putting the ball in his hands a lot more.

1020
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 4: He's been able to create and show his versatility. So

1021
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: I think that's great for him to kind of take

1022
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: away from Jordan Poole just trying to be hisself and

1023
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: be free. So I think in that second unit he's

1024
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: able you seen it, like thinks, having like twenty some

1025
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 4: of his last four or five games, he's able to

1026
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: be more free, be out there, be the more primary

1027
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: ball handlers, the backup point Conne and just be a

1028
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 4: great six Marroal. That might be his best position for

1029
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: him as being a great six man roll kind of

1030
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 4: like a Jordan Clarkson type, and those type of guys

1031
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 4: are number pow.

1032
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So this is an interesting one. This

1033
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: isn't an NBA NBA question, So Bucketer Brick pickup basketball

1034
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: should be played to thirteen by ones and twos.

1035
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 3: Bucketer brick pickup.

1036
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what are you guys playing? Scoring too?

1037
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: And pick up bucket? I think bucket. That's kind of

1038
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 4: how we play that. We played ones and twos and uh,

1039
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: I think sometimes we go to eleven or twelve something

1040
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: like that. Like, so, yeah, we kind of play like that.

1041
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 4: I think that'd be fun ones and twos like that

1042
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 4: because you get more games in. I mean that's how

1043
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 4: we kind of played. We don't really play like a

1044
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: shot clock or five minute game with ten minute game.

1045
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: We kind of played like ones and twos going to

1046
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 4: like eleven, I think we might go to fifteen. Yeah,

1047
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 4: for the first game, for the first game is fifteen.

1048
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: After that it might be thirteen or eleven. So we

1049
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 4: cut it down after the first game because you don't

1050
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 4: want the score to be too high. Yeah, ones and twos.

1051
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 4: I played ones and twos and win by two. God no,

1052
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 4: we play straight up, Okay, you know, we play straight up.

1053
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 4: We get a bucket, get a stop. You want to

1054
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: win and get a stop. That's why because some but

1055
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: some people do play you gotta win by two. Some

1056
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: people do play like so, I guess wherever you're at

1057
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: whatever court you're at, those are their house rules. It's

1058
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: kind of like playing spades.

1059
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: People like I've gotten in real arguments. Have you ever

1060
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: gotten in like you know? I mean you didn't play

1061
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: in like the twenty four hour fitness the way you

1062
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: know some of these regular guys do. But like you

1063
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: ever getting like an altercation on a pickup game?

1064
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: For sure?

1065
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 4: All the time. I'm all the time of the pick

1066
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: up game. Yeah, and the summer I here at Ronnie

1067
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: Taylor were the ones run. So we get into a

1068
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: lot of altercations like not no fighting or nothing, but

1069
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: like competitive nature, like nah, we're doing this and doing that. Yeah,

1070
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: And I think we played ones and twos out here

1071
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: for years and sometimes you got win by two. Sometimes

1072
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: you win by one straight up, but it'd be a

1073
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: lot of altercation back and forth.

1074
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 3: I ain't getting off the court. I'm staying you can't

1075
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 3: beat me. I'm beating you. So it'd be fun, pick up,

1076
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: some fun, man, very psighted just to get out there

1077
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 3: and who dope.

1078
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's been episode three, A point game

1079
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: with John Wall and CJ toldono, John, you feeling good

1080
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: about this?

1081
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel great, man.

1082
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: I think we asked some great stories of KYL and

1083
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: then we hear some great questions of just asking them

1084
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 4: trying to figure out different things about like you said,

1085
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: like the nil how you do all those type of

1086
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Speaker 4: things social media world.

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Speaker 3: I think I I think I ran like a four

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Speaker 4: In my high school, I wanted a long jump state championship,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you a funny story. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: I was nice. It was nice. I wanted to keep playing.

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Speaker 4: But my high school I went to at the time,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So that's when I stopped playing. But I when I

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