1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today, on the bright Side, it's 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: time to free yourself of holiday stress because etiquette superhero 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Micah Meyer is here to guide us through some of 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: the trickiest and stickiest situations that can arise during the 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: holiday season. We'll talk about how to wow your host 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: with a gift and how to make a lasting first impression. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: It's Monday, December ninth. I'm Simone Boye and. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day. 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: On my Mind Monday is brought to you by Missus 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Meyer's Clean Day, inspired by the goodness of the garden. 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Danielle, it's Monday, which means I got something on 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: my mind. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: What's on your mind? 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you something. You know, in our 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: busy schedules, we can either leave things up to chance, 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: leave certain activities up to chants or things that we 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: need to do, or we can put it on our calendar, 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: right right, What are the things in your life that 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: you make a priority to schedule And I mean it 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: goes on the calendar and it doesn't move. 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: The only thing that goes on the calendar and does 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: not move, no matter what are my workouts. It's my 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: number one thing. It's my happy tool. I think everything 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: else I'm embarrassed to say is sort of malleable. 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: I will shift things around. 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: Well, that makes sense because I've always heard that if 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: you want to prioritize something, you have to schedule it. 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: Like some sex experts even say that if you want 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: to make sure that you and your partner are having 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: sex more, that you should put it on a schedule. Controversial, 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, there's something that I 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: came across this week that is making me reconsider that approach. Okay, So, 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: the Greater Good Science Center out of UC Berkeley is 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: asking the question, if we schedule things that are important 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: to us, why not schedule happiness too. So they've introduced 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: what feels like a revolutionary concept. Each month they put 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: out a happiness calendar. I love this so much, Simone. 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: I was thinking that my word for five is going 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: to be joy, and this fits right in. 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Please tell me more. Okay, Okay, so you're gonna love this. 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: So think of it like an advent calendar of kindness. 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: So on each day of the month, there's a little reminder, 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: a prompt for something that you can do to reflect 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: and connect with others and ultimately cultivate happiness. Some of 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: the prompts are things that you can do on your own, 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: and some are things that you do with other people. 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: Here are some of the examples of prompts that they give. 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: On one day, it says paint or sketch. On another 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: day it's something as simple as drink water. Okay. Another 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: action could be express your opinions with humility, which is interesting, Like, 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: you wouldn't think that that could bring you happiness, but 54 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: apparently these experts that you see Berkeley are telling us 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: it does. 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: I'd like to challenge these experts with all of my 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: expertise in this field. 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: Well, here's one that we can get behind. Move your 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: body is another thing they ask us to do. Write 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: a short thank you note. I love that. Love keep 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: up with a fanly tradition, or create a new one. 62 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Love that And this might be my favorite. It's hard 63 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: to choose, but I think this might be my favorite. 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Spend time in or near water. 65 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: Mmmm. 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: That's not always possible, depending on where you live, but 67 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: I love the idea. 68 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: Of trying. 69 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 70 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you can even if you don't live 71 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: near an ocean. You could find a creek, you could 72 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: find a fountain. You could find you know, like there's 73 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: something about the just the sound of running water that 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I think is so good for us. 75 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: You can find a fountain, that's true. 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: Find a fountain. So here's the thing about this calendar. 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Whether or not you love all these prompts, it's really 78 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: just about making it personal. Like you can create your 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: own happiness calendar each month and add in a prompt 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: each day that feels like an authentic way for you 81 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: to find your own happiness. So, Danielle, what would you 82 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: add to your happiness calendar? 83 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: So I'm actually so happy you shared this because I'm 84 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: thinking of using this method because I will over hide 85 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: joy with things that I feel like I need to 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: do and then by the end of the day I 87 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: didn't really carve out a moment for that. And I 88 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: know this sounds a little heavy, but Nelson Mandela, when 89 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: he was in prison for all those years, wrote about 90 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: how he would take himself places in his mind and 91 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: think about joyful things as well, and if he can 92 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: do it from prison in all those years, we can 93 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: all do it from our couches anywhere we are. 94 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: Even thirty seconds help. 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 2: So I think for me, it's sitting down to enjoy 96 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: my coffee, even if it's five minutes, tasting it, smelling it, thinking, feeling, 97 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: breathing in the morning. 98 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: And then I have another goal. 99 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: I'm really going to try to do TM meditation this year. 100 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: For years it's been on my list of New Year's 101 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: goals and I never get to it. 102 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: And I'm really going to try to learn to meditate. 103 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: So that's going to be even like two minutes on 104 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: my happy calendar? 105 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: What would be on yours? 106 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: I would add sunsets, make time watch the sunset. I 107 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: would add a dance party, either solo or with friends. 108 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: Something so cathartic about that. And for me, nature is 109 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: always what grounds me, So I think just carving out 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: time to go for a nature walk, go for a 111 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: little hot girl nature walk. Yeah, well, this is just 112 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: a simple thought starter to get you thinking about how 113 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: you can cultivate happiness in new ways next year. So 114 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm really curious what would be on your happiness calendar? 115 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Bright Side besties, so find us on social media and 116 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: let us know Okay, on the subject of calendars, December 117 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: is flying by, y'all. I am feeling this holiday frenzy, 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: and I'm also feeling the cognitive labor load that goes 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: into figuring out how we can possibly show up for 120 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: everyone around us this holiday season. 121 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this time of year, there's that immediate 122 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: rush of things to do and places to be, and 123 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: it's honestly a little daunting when you start thinking about 124 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: planning host gifts and going to holiday parties and how 125 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: to really acknowledge your friends and family and colleagues. 126 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: There's just so much to do in a short period 127 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: of time. 128 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, time, as always is the most precious asset, Isn't 129 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: it as fun as the holidays can be? I know 130 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: we are not alone in feeling the stress and anxiety. Thankfully, 131 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: our guest today is here to ease all of that 132 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: and help take the guesswork out of the holiday hassle. 133 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: Micah Meyer is an etiquette expert, the co founder of 134 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: the Plaza Hotels Finishing program, and the founder of Beaumont Etiquette, 135 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: which leads courses on everything from table manners to social networking. 136 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Stick around, because after the break, we'll bring you our 137 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: conversation with Michah Meyer. Thanks to our partners at missus Myers. 138 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: When it comes to cleaning, it's more fun if it 139 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: smells like the garden. Missus Meyer's collection of household products 140 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: smell great and pack a punch against dirt and grime. 141 00:06:48,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: Visit missus Myers dot com. Michah Welcome to the bright Side. 142 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. I will always 143 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: take the bright side and any day. 144 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: We just got to talk a few minutes before our 145 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: recording started, and you really you are so positive. I'm 146 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: excited to hear your take on etiquette. I think when 147 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: people hear that word, they picture somebody very refined, very poised, 148 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: or envisioned like very traditional customs. But in your work 149 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: you've shared that you see it as something much deeper. 150 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: It's a set of meaningful practices that bring respect and 151 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: kindness to our daily lives, which I don't know who. 152 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: Couldn't get behind that. So I'm curious what your etiquette 153 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: philosophy is. 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 5: I think you just hit the nail. When people think 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: about etiquette, they think about folks and knives and that's it. 156 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: But actually my philosophy is very simple, and it's that etiquette, 157 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: and the only purpose behind etiquette and good manners is 158 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: to show respect and kindness to everyone in all living 159 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 5: things around us, and to think about. 160 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: Other people before ourselves. So the way that. 161 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: We hold on a knife and fork, yes that's good manners, 162 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 5: but why. 163 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: Are we doing it? 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: It's to show respect to the person we are sitting 165 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: across from, who wouldn't mean. 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: More of that. 167 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: Do you have any guiding principles? I do. 168 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: I think if somebody needs something more than yourself, then 169 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: give it to them. 170 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: Do it for them. 171 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: So when you're walking down the street and somebody struggling 172 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: to open a door, it doesn't matter their age or 173 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: their gender. It's about helping where you can. What's more 174 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: important etiquette or good manners? I actually think good manners 175 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 5: don't tell that etiqette place, but I think good manners 176 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 5: because etiquette is kind of like a protocol by which 177 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 5: we do things, but good manners a two year old 178 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: can know and follow. 179 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Micah, It's no secret that the traditional practices we associate 180 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: with etiquette or even good manners have really declined significantly 181 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: in our society. I mean, there are things like wearing 182 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: white to weddings that people still forget about or I 183 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: don't know, choose to ignore or never learned. And I'm 184 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: curious if you ever feel isolated as an etiquette expert 185 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: in a world that seems to be abandoning a lot 186 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: of these traditional practices. 187 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I think I kind of feel like 188 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 5: I'm the flag raiser. I'm kind of like we're. 189 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 4: Still here for those of you that want to learn, 190 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: We're still here. 191 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 5: I mean the amount of people that send I mean, 192 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: in one day, we could have one hundred to a 193 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 5: couple hundred dms on any social media platform asking for 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 5: help on a situation, or whenever there's a TikTok of 195 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: somebody doing something crazy, we get scented dozens of times. 196 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 5: So people are looking for advice and guidance, I think, 197 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 5: and I think there are a lot of misconceptions. 198 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: So I got to buy it's got bad here. 199 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 5: I needs to hypere hire a new agency. And I 200 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 5: think that I'm trying. I'm trying to do that. And 201 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 5: by you know, a lot of my classes are kind 202 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: of mixed with pop culture, and I give a lot 203 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: of pop culture references, and I'm really kind of always 204 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: on the cusp of what's going on and new and 205 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 5: in the world, and I tried to really modernize it. 206 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: I would say you have to evolve. Etiquette has to 207 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: evolve as society evolves. 208 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: And we still practicing etiquette that our grandparents taught us, 209 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 5: then it's not needed and it's almost doing a disservice. 210 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: If you're still teaching or learning etiquette from fifty years. 211 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: Ago, well you are educating the masses on how to 212 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: live out etiquette in the modern age. And your background 213 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: in this field is so impressive. I mean, you attended 214 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: finishing school and studied with a former member of the 215 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: British Royal household. You have studied in multiple different countries, 216 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: You've dined with dignitaries. You are just such an impressive 217 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: voice in this space. And my goal for today is 218 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: to leave here with some etiquette tips that I can 219 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: use at my next get together and just completely wow 220 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: and impress my friends, like, oh my gosh, I need 221 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: I've never been thought to do that. So what are 222 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: some tips that we can pull from some of your 223 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: esteem training on formal gatherings that we can kind of 224 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: whip out as an impressive party trick at our more 225 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: casual get togethers too. 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I love this game, all right. 227 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 5: So, whether it's business or social, when you first come 228 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: into a room, imagine you're introducing people, right, so you. 229 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: Know half the people. The other people maybe don't or 230 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: they don't know each other. What do you do? 231 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 5: So if you're the house, you're in charge of introducing people, 232 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 5: and who gets introduced first. There's an actual order by 233 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 5: which you introduce people to show respect, and so you 234 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 5: say the name of the more kind of VIP person 235 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 5: in that situation, followed by the other people in the 236 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 5: situation to show respect that VIP. So let's say we're 237 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 5: there for somebody's birthday, then that birthday person is the VIP. 238 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 5: And so if it's your birthday someone that I would say, okay, simone, 239 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 5: may I introduce Sarah because it's your birthday party, So 240 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: you come first. So that's one thing you can just 241 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: use for the rest of your life. Life skill. 242 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: And then it's the same for email. 243 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: So if you are emailing someone, the person who goes 244 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 5: in the recipient section their email, whoever goes first, that's 245 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: the most VIP person. 246 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: So if you're writing to your boss and. 247 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: Let's say your colleague, your boss's email comes first and 248 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 5: your colleagues email second, and then you say dear boss's 249 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 5: name or high boss's name and colleagues name, so it 250 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,359 Speaker 5: goes in the order of importance. 251 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: Interesting, I have a quick question about that. 252 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: Yes, so my only thought about ordering emails in order 253 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: of importance is a lot of times I find that 254 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: men are at the heads of companies still, and so 255 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: all the men's names go first, and I sort of 256 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: love like a microactive feminism by putting all the women's 257 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: names first. 258 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: Would that be considered poor etiquette? 259 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 5: I think so, actually, because you are saying gender is 260 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 5: more important, and I teach the opposite. I actually say 261 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 5: gender is irrelevant in business because gender it's all about. 262 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 5: It's all about who is the more VIP. So if 263 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: that is a situation, let me. I like your thinking though. 264 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 5: I like that feminist thinking. 265 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: Though. 266 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: What I would do is I would alphabetize it. 267 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: If I didn't want to put all the men's names 268 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: by all the women's I would appatize it. I wouldn't 269 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: do female first, because that's actually old school etiquette. That's 270 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 5: like ladies first. And I say, that's like the word. 271 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 5: One phrase I don't want to hear in modern etiquette 272 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 5: is ladies first, because we're saying because of your gender, 273 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 5: you are doing something first. 274 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: But really I think. 275 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 5: It's whoever deserves the kudos in that situation is first. 276 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 2: Ooh, Micah, I like your thinking so alphabetized. Yes, yeah, okay, default, 277 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: I would call it a good default. 278 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm really curious about this practice of desentering gender 279 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: in business. Would you say more about that? 280 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: Yes? 281 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: So, for example, twenty years ago, in etiquette, professional might say, 282 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: when you're at an office, who goes into the elevator first? 283 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 5: And it was always ladies first, ladies first, ladies first. 284 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: So you would have an intern who started on that 285 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: day and she would be able to walk through first, 286 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 5: get the first seat, the first everything, when really she 287 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 5: just started versus maybe a male president who's been there 288 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 5: for twenty years, and that person. 289 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: Has deserved the respect. 290 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: So it's all about showing respect to the person that 291 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 5: has been in that position longer. So if I'm walking 292 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 5: to the door and I, for example, I host clients 293 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 5: all the time in my office in New York, so 294 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: when I walk in, it doesn't matter if it's a 295 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: male client or a female client or any gender and client. 296 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: I will open the door and say please after you. 297 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 5: So I think we're taking gender out of business and 298 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 5: laying the line clear for everyone to move forward at 299 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: the same pace. 300 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: Well, as we dive into the holiday season, I think 301 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: we're all navigating gatherings and gift giving, which always bring 302 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: up a lot of questions about etiquette. And so we 303 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: asked our listeners for their holiday specific questions and we 304 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: would love to get your expert advice on handling them. 305 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: Are you open to helping us out? 306 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: I would love to, yes. 307 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: Okay. 308 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: The first one is we're all going to a variety 309 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: of holiday parties. And one question that we kept getting 310 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: is about rsvping. 311 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: What are the basic rules of an RSVP? 312 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: All Right, if you are the person sending out the invitation, 313 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 5: you want to avoid saying please RSVP because the p 314 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: is already in the RSVP it's responsive places, which is 315 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 5: RSVP to Micah at xyz dot com. Then, if you 316 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 5: are the person who is sending in an RSVP, I 317 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 5: think as soon as you know if you can. 318 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: Go, you send it in. 319 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: You don't wait until the last minute, because it's almost 320 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: like looks like you were waiting for better invitation or something, 321 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: and also gives that host an opportunity to invite other 322 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: people if. 323 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: You can't make it. 324 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: I think if you have any dietary needs or requirements 325 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: or allergies, when you send in your RSVP, you tell 326 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: the host right then and there, thank you so much. 327 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: I would love to come to your holiday party. I 328 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: am allergic to peanuts. 329 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: However, if you're thinking to make a dish with peanuts 330 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: and it, I'd love to bring something to share with 331 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: everybody that doesn't have it's in it. And I think 332 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 5: that we don't bring guests unless we are offered a 333 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 5: plus one, I think is a big one to be 334 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 5: conscious of, especially with the holidays and holiday parties. Those 335 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 5: are kind of the basics of an RSVP. 336 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: I really like that you tell people to bring a 337 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: dish if they have an allergy. I think that's a 338 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: great idea. 339 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know, at the end of the day, 340 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 5: if a host was just planning and having twenty people 341 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: over and ten people have diets and restrictions in this 342 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: that turns almost impossible for the host. So it's just 343 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: a nicety and maybe the host says, no, don't worry, I. 344 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: Got you covered. 345 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: But if you have. 346 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 5: Really you know, specific dietourneys, It's also just a nice 347 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 5: gesture to ask the host if you can bring something anyway, 348 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: because we never arrive empty handed, so that could be 349 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 5: your thing that you bring anyway. 350 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Micah, this one I have a personal attachment to. 351 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: We had a listener question about canceling last minute, and 352 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: I sometimes throw events for my brand. I've noticed that 353 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: people really do cancel last minute, and it is tough, 354 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: but I know that things come up. So what is 355 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 2: your take on canceling last minute. 356 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: I would try everything not to cancel on someone because 357 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 5: I know what it feels like to be canceled on 358 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: as well. If you do have to cancel, you let 359 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 5: that person know as soon as possible. It's just about 360 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: again being thoughtful of the hosts and what they've done 361 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: and the effort. And if you cannot attend, then I 362 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: will still always send a thank you letter. Thank you 363 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 5: so much. I'm so sorry. I still apologize. Yeah, I 364 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 5: still think something like that is a really nice thing. 365 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 5: It's just gratitude for being invited. That's what I would 366 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 5: do to you if I could make your event. 367 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: I had somebody do something that really touched me and 368 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: it was so small. I threw an event in New 369 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: York a month ago, and I sent it through one 370 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: of the invite websites and you can RSVP yes or 371 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: no right on the website and they are svp'd no 372 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: right away. And then their assistance sent me a separate 373 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: email saying so and so can't come, but I just 374 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: want to thank you for including her, and she was 375 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: really touched and X, Y and Z And it was 376 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: two or three sentences, but that person made me feel 377 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: so much better about not attending versus the other fifteen 378 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: people who couldn't attend. 379 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: It made such a huge difference. 380 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I love things like that, really nice gestures. 381 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, going out of your way is part of etiquette, 382 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: it seems exactly. 383 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: Also, think about weddings, think about like, you know, we 384 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: have these brand events, imagine on a large scale, think about, right, 385 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 5: all these people and things like that, and people you 386 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 5: hear these horror stories of you know, on the day 387 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 5: of my wedding, people didn't show up, and you're like, uh. 388 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, it's hard, totally, Micah. 389 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: You did touch on this briefly, but what's your strategy 390 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: with host gifts? Do you kind of have a roster 391 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: of gift ideas that you rely on whenever you're looking 392 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: for one. 393 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: Yes, I do. 394 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 5: I actually have a I have a little cabinet in 395 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 5: my house that I host gifts at all times in 396 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: categories from children's all the way up to like just 397 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 5: general ones. So if I go and I don't have time, 398 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: I just grab and go and I buy in bulk too. 399 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 5: So if I find a really great host gift, I 400 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: get like ten of them at a time. 401 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, so I. 402 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 3: Think, my god, I want insight into that closet. 403 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: And you went in, you would say, what on earth 404 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: is this? 405 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 5: Sometimes my husband goes in there, He's like, whoa, what 406 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 5: is going on? 407 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: It saves you so much time, so much time. How 408 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: many times have we all been running out to a 409 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: party and we're like, crap, I forgot to get a gift. 410 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: So my thoughts on this, we never show up empty handed, 411 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: even for the smallest or most casual event. Someone's hosting 412 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 5: a football party, it seems like, oh, this's not a 413 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 5: big deal, but. 414 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: They're still hosting. It's a lot of work to host. 415 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: You should still bring something to show gratitude. I always 416 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: ask the host first, is there anything I can bring? 417 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 5: What can I You know I'm bringing something. I have 418 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 5: this amazing bakery around the corner. I make a mean flatbread. 419 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: Whatever it is that your thing is, and the host 420 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: might say, oh, bring this, or they might say nope, 421 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 5: just yourself, come and have a great time. The most 422 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 5: common host gift to bring is a candle, but maybe 423 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 5: not surprisingly. You just want to bring something that somebody 424 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: would enjoy. I think is the big thing, so it 425 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 5: could be different per person. You don't have to spend 426 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: a certain amount of money on it. A baked good 427 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: is one of my favorite things to bring. My double 428 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 5: batch of triple chocolate brownies is like my killer, and 429 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: it goes a long way and it's I wrap it 430 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: up really and nicely. I think, however you bring, so 431 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 5: if you have let's say you are invited last minute, 432 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 5: you grab a bottle of wine because that's the only 433 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 5: thing in front of you. 434 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: It's still about presenting it. So I've got spools of ribbon. 435 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: Take out that ribbon, cut a little piece off, curl 436 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 5: the ends, make it beautiful and it looks so much 437 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: more like a gift than if you're just handing somebody 438 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 5: a bottle of wine. So it's how you present things. 439 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 5: And then I would say Also, the longer you stay, 440 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 5: the more people you bring with you, the bigger the gift. 441 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 5: So if you're going for a whole weekend versus just 442 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 5: a dinner party. And then my final tip is match 443 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 5: the formality with what you bring. So if you're going 444 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 5: to a casual barbecue, it could just be something super 445 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: casual like your chocolate chip cookies. If you're going to 446 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: a formal black tie birthday party at someone's home, then 447 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: I would up in a notch. I'd probably mirror that formality. 448 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: You just mentioned something that made me think of a 449 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: question that we received from one of our listeners. She 450 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: is meeting her boyfriend's family for the first time, and 451 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: she's going to visit them and stay with the family 452 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: for four nights. Now you talk about not showing up 453 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: empty handed. You talked about how the duration of your 454 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: stay should determine the quality or size of the gift. 455 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: What etiquette advice do you have for her, not just 456 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: in terms of what she should bring, but also how 457 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: she should compose herself inside the house with this family 458 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: that she's meeting for the first time. 459 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 5: This is an important meeting. The pressure's on, and I 460 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 5: think in this situation I would do a little bit 461 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 5: of research. I wouldn't bring a generic gift. So ask 462 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 5: your partner and say, okay, what is your mom like 463 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 5: or what are your parents like? And let them say, well, 464 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 5: my my mom's favorite thing to do is this, or 465 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 5: she her favorite food. She loves to barbecue, my dad 466 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 5: loves to go on runs, whatever it is. Find out 467 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: as much information you can to make the gift the 468 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 5: most personal. That you can bring something for everyone, especially 469 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: if you're going for the weekend. And I would give 470 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: the gifts really right when you walk in, so I 471 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 5: would have my hands sort of full with a basket 472 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: or something when you first walk in. The correct etiquette 473 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: is to give the host gift as you walk in, 474 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: so it's like that first impression, wow, boom, oh my gosh, 475 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 5: who look, who are amazing child? Brought home what good manners? 476 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 5: And I think it's thank you so much for having me. 477 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: It's I'm so excited to finally meet you. I would 478 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 5: have the amazing weekend and then afterwards then I would 479 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: send a card and just say thank you so much. 480 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: Oh I like that and that nice, beautiful handwritten thank 481 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 5: you card is the icing on the cake. And at 482 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 5: least if nothing else shows really good manners. 483 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: Mike. 484 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 2: I love how you out line the before, during, and 485 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: after of accepting an invitation. And one thing I've learned 486 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: from your work is the before Okay, so I actually 487 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: hadn't really thought of that. I'm almost embarrassed by it. 488 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: And I love the idea you have to send a 489 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: flower arrangement ahead of a party so that the host 490 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: doesn't have to juggle a bunch of gifts when people 491 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: are arriving. I know I feel overwhelmed when people come 492 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: at me all at once. 493 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: I've never thought of that. 494 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 4: It's a good one. 495 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 5: And if, for example, you're going someone dinner party, maybe 496 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: they say, no, I've got everything, please just yourself. 497 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: I mean imagine sending the morning of the. 498 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 5: Dinner party a beautiful center piece or like a white 499 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: orchid is the go to, or like a something that's plotted. 500 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 5: It's tasteful, it's classic, it's sophisticated. It says everything about 501 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: you and your gift choice, and you send that ahead 502 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 5: with a little note that says, so looking forward to 503 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 5: this evening, thank you so much for having me such 504 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 5: a delight. 505 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: Xx Micah. 506 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: I love that you're an xx Mica person. I'm an 507 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 2: ex Danielle girl. That's my sign art. 508 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. 509 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: The centerpiece suggestion such a brilliant idea, Micah, because I 510 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: think that's like the ideal floral gift for a host 511 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: of a big holiday like Christmas. A lot of people 512 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: forget that. Most hosts are still looking for a centerpiece 513 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: even that day. 514 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 5: Yes, and if it's not for the main table, it's 515 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 5: for the side table to welcome table. There's always a 516 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 5: place to put a beautiful arrangement. And it is a 517 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 5: wow moment because you are not expecting it and the 518 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 5: doorbell rings and you open it in your stress, and 519 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 5: then you get the most. 520 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 4: Beautiful, like oh gift. 521 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 5: If you're listening out there and you've never tried this 522 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 5: and you really want to make a good impression on. 523 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: Whoever it is, try that. 524 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: We need to take a quick break, but we'll be 525 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: right back with etiquette expert Micah Meyer. And we're back 526 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: with Micah Meyer. Okay, Micah, I think we all know 527 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: how much decor can impact the ambiance of a party, 528 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: but you haven't a trick that actually goes even further 529 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: for creating a full sensory experience. Can you explain what 530 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: your five senses hosting trick is. 531 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: Okay, So this is. 532 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: My five senses hosting trick that anyone can do on 533 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 5: any budget and you will always be seen as an 534 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 5: amazing host by doing so. So within the first five 535 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: minutes that your guests arrive, you have to hit all 536 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: five senses of theirs. So you have to think ahead, 537 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 5: plan ahead. So maybe there's a beautiful reef, they open 538 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 5: the door, you're there, Hello, welcome. Maybe depending on a relationship, 539 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 5: it's a big hug. Maybe you're taking coats or jackets, 540 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 5: but it's a point of contact where you're welcoming and warm. 541 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: It's touch. Then you know, do you have holiday music on, 542 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 4: setting the tone the mood? Do you have the TV's off? 543 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 5: Which I recommend because otherwise people just focus on the TVs. 544 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 5: When your guests walk in, do they smell the most 545 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 5: glorious thing baking? If you don't have food on, if 546 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 5: you're just doing kind of appetizers, put on little cinnamon 547 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 5: sticks in hot water and let it boil on your 548 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: svetop and your whole house smells like cinnamon. And then 549 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 5: when they come in, are they offered a beverage right away? 550 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 5: And are there little you know or dirms sitting around 551 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 5: that you pre made, you know, hours earlier. 552 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 4: It's all about organization. 553 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: But are you hitting those five senses in the first 554 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: five minutes that they walk in and you're just setting 555 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 5: the tone for the rest of the event. Try that 556 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 5: and it always works. It works like a charm. Okay, 557 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: just to recap. 558 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: So if we're appealing to the five senses as a host, 559 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: you've got touch as soon as guests walk in, you 560 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: shake their hand, you take their coat, smell, have a 561 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: scent in the air, something you're cooking, sight, decorations on, 562 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: hand flowers in terms of taste, snacks to enjoy, and 563 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: then in terms of are hearing music on but no 564 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: TV exactly. 565 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: Exactly, And you could do this year round. It doesn't 566 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: have to be just a holidays. 567 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 5: It could be for a birthday, it could be for 568 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 5: a spring garden party. It's just making sure that you're 569 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 5: hitting those senses for whatever occasion that is. 570 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: You're such a host, do you do all these things? 571 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: I do most of them. Yeah, Micah, you gave me 572 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: the language and the framework to think about it in 573 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: terms of the five senses. But I have been doing 574 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: these things without even realizing that it fits into that framework. 575 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: I think scent is so important, Like I just want 576 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: my house to smell good whenever people come over. That's big. 577 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 578 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: And also I think music is everything, Like if you 579 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: ever catch me having a party and there's no music on, 580 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: please check on me, because that's my core believes. 581 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I think it sounds like you're an amazing host. 582 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. Well, I learned it from my mom, honestly. 583 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: And I was just with my parents last night. They're 584 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: so cute. They have this wine tasting party that they 585 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: do every year, and like all their friends from church come, 586 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: and friends from the neighborhood or from past workplaces, and 587 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: it was really sweet just to talk to everyone and 588 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: hear them say, like independently of my parents without them 589 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: being able to hear them, like, oh, your parents are 590 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: such great hosts and they make us feel so welcome. 591 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: We love your parents. So I feel lucky that I 592 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: had that model growing up. 593 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that you do learn a lot at home. 594 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 5: It's true, Like manners and etiquette, it starts at home, 595 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 5: it really really does. That's where they that's where children 596 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: pick up the most. So it probably was just like 597 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: in your veins and you didn't even know it. 598 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: I love it, Micah. I gotta throw this one up 599 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: for all the immigrant households out there. What about asking 600 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: people to take their shoes off when they walk in 601 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: the door. I know that this is a big thing 602 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: in like non Western households. This is a hot topic. 603 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: I feel pretty strongly about this. 604 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: So whenever I walk into someone's home and I advise 605 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: the same thing, I always ask, would you like me 606 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: to take off my shoes? Or I look at the 607 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 5: host when I walk in if they still have their 608 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: shoes on. Sometimes they might still ask, But I think 609 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: that each culture is very different. In some religions, you 610 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 5: have to take off your shoes to walk in them home. 611 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: So I think it's being conscious of that. 612 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: There's not just like a one rule for every household 613 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: type of thing. 614 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: If it's formal. 615 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 5: Cocktail party or dinner party, everyone keeps on their shoes 616 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 5: and then I just do a good old mop, you know, 617 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 5: when everyone leaves, and that's the price you pay to 618 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 5: have a party. But if it's somebody just coming into 619 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 5: my house, a friend of mine, they know our culture 620 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 5: in our house is that we take off our shoes. 621 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 5: But what I do is I have house shoes. I 622 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: buy house shoes, massive stock of black slip on house 623 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 5: shoes from Amazon. And I say, oh, I've got a 624 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 5: pair of house shoes here for you. And my husband's 625 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 5: more blunt. He's kind of like, would you please mind 626 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: taking off your shoes. I've got a nice pair here 627 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 5: for you. He's a no shoe in our house kind 628 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 5: of person. And if you are the guest, expect. 629 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: That somebody makes you take off your shoes. Expect it. 630 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: So check that pedicure. Do you have holes in your socks? 631 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 5: Put on a pair of panty hose if you need to, 632 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 5: whatever it is, but be prepared that you are going 633 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 5: to be a take up her shoes. 634 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: I just said, be prepared for anything. 635 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 3: Micah. 636 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: When you met your husband, was he on the same 637 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: page as you with manners or did you have to 638 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: whip him into shape? 639 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: It is the opposite, Danielle, It is the opposite. He 640 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 5: whipped me into shape. I was living in New York, 641 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 5: I met him and we moved to London together. This 642 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: is back in two thousand and eight, and he was 643 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: the one that told me I would highly advise for 644 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 5: you to take an etiquette class. 645 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: He was the one just so you got. My dad's 646 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: from Barbados, my mom's from Boston, but she's like a. 647 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 5: Little bit of a hippie, great house, but a hippie. 648 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 5: And so I grew up very casually, like on a 649 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 5: sail though on a beach bear fund in Sarasota, Florida. 650 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: And my husband is from the most. 651 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 5: Formal, formal family, beautiful, sweet, loving family, but a formal 652 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 5: European family where you were couplings to breakfast. And so 653 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 5: he told me to take an etiquette class. And that's 654 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 5: kind of way buddy told me. He's like, I think 655 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 5: this would help you. So I kind of went kicking 656 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: and screaming. I was like, I'm offended. I remember texting 657 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: my girlfriends back home being like, I'm offended. 658 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 4: Can you believe this? 659 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: But it was the. 660 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: Best, one of the best decisions I ever made in 661 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: my whole life. My book's called Modern Etiquette Made Easy, 662 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: my first book, and that first chapter explains the story 663 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 5: about how I met my husband and how I got 664 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: into etiquette. 665 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: Because so many people ask it, I was like, I'm 666 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: just going to put it in as the first good old. 667 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: Juicy read of my book that he's an amazing story. 668 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: Have you caught up to his etiquette or is he 669 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: still leading the charge? 670 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 5: No, I would definitely say I have caught up, and 671 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: maybe he. 672 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: Would argue this. Maybe, but I think I would be 673 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 4: able to school him in a few things now. 674 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: It's so funny. It's like when people convert religions. 675 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: Oftentimes the person who converts becomes more emphatic about it. 676 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: Yes, this is you with etiquette. 677 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I ended up after that class. 678 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 5: I went to Swiss finishing school, I mean intense school, 679 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: and I went and I trained underneath the form. I 680 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 5: member of the Queen of England's household, and I have 681 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 5: taken every country I travel to, I take an etiquette class. 682 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 5: It's my greatest passion. So yes, but it is favorite thing. 683 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 5: He is actually quite charming and very very lovable. But 684 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 5: it's his favorite. 685 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: Thing to say to me, if they could only see 686 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: you now, like. 687 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 5: When we're when I've going cheerios in my hair and 688 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 5: chasing around like a toddler and not in you know, 689 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 5: maybe eating cheetos. It's like his favorite thing to say, 690 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: they could only see you now. 691 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, we do have a lot of fun. We're normal. 692 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: I like your husband. He sounds like a lot of fun. 693 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: He is very, very fun. He is well. 694 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: Micah, thank you so much for joining us on the 695 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: bright Side. 696 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. It's been an 697 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: absolute joy to be here. I've laughed a lot, so 698 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 5: thank you. 699 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Bessie's to be honest, I feel like we've barely 700 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: just scratched the surface on these tips. So we're going 701 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: to do something we've actually never done before. 702 00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: Tomorrow. 703 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: We're going to be continuing our conversation with Micah. She'll 704 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: be here to answer some of your questions, share advice 705 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: on how to handle work situations, and how to find 706 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: the perfect gift. 707 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: I cannot wait. 708 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: Micah Meyer is the founder of Beaumont Etiquette and the 709 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: best selling author of Modern Etiquette Made Easy. She also 710 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: co founded the Plaza Hotel finishing program. 711 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: That's such a big deal. 712 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you tomorrow for part two of 713 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: our conversation. 714 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Join the conversation using hashtag the bright Side and connect 715 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: with us on social media at Hello Sunshine on Instagram 716 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: and at the bright Side Pod on TikTok oh, and 717 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: feel free to tag us at Simone Voice and at 718 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Danielle Robe. 719 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: Listen and Follow the bright side on the iHeartRadio app, 720 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 721 00:33:45,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: See you tomorrow, folks, keep looking on the bright side.