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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: This is the best of with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 3: We've got Clay in New York City and a very

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Speaker 3: special guest who has joined in the mix.

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Speaker 4: Here, Clay, do we have his mic set up?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 1: I think it's on. I mean he's used to talking

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Speaker 6: We got to ask Mike Mamon, Mike my Moon, my mic.

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Speaker 6: My mic is on the great Mike mamone.

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Speaker 2: Uh. What an honor to be in the.

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Speaker 6: Clay and Buck studio, which by the way, is adjacent

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Speaker 6: to my studio when I'm in New York City doing

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Speaker 6: these big audience shows which are fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm on tonight. We're on tonight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, fun, we love it. We got to get Buck

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Speaker 6: in the mix. We got to have you on as well.

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Speaker 6: How are you, my friend?

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Speaker 4: I'm good. You know I'm down here by the way.

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Speaker 7: Uh, well, we've got video. I think the back of

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Speaker 7: your head is going to be on the video right here.

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Speaker 7: You can wave to people there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, back of my head looks better. You know anybody watching.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I was like, so, do we introduce

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Speaker 3: Sean Hannity to everybody, or just accept that everybody listening

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Speaker 3: knows his voice, so we know that it's Shawn, so

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Speaker 6: By the way, congrats to both of you. You have

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Speaker 6: been kicking ass in radio. Very happy for both of you,

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Speaker 6: and it's a tough business. I've been believe it or not.

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Speaker 6: My radio career started before Clay was born, but in

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighty seven was the first time I.

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Speaker 1: Got behind the buck was barely here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what was your first shown Clay was born?

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Speaker 3: Clay was riding a horse to school. Clay's been around

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Speaker 1: I've been rinning hormany nine No.

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Speaker 6: I started at a university station in California. They rightly

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Speaker 2: I had a one hour.

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Speaker 6: Week show, was awful, like every other show on a

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Speaker 6: college station. But the minute that light went on, that

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Speaker 6: just changed my life. Now, Interestingly, I didn't know what

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Speaker 6: listening to the great pioneers of talk radio in New York,

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Speaker 6: and when I lived in Rhode Island five years, I

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Speaker 2: It was Barry Farber, Barry Gray.

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Speaker 6: Later on came, hey, let's be heard, Bob Grant, get

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Speaker 6: off my phone, new scumbag, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, various cerbic New York talk radio.

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Speaker 6: And and then I got hired in Huntsville, Alabama. Had

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Speaker 6: I'm Shawn from New York. I didn't of college football

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Speaker 6: is not, as you know, a religion in New York

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Speaker 3: Sean, I don't even know what Clay was talking about

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Speaker 4: I was like, don't they investigate you for taxes?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 6: I know now because both of my kids were Division

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Speaker 2: Is, so I go to Alabama.

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Speaker 6: It's like I had no idea about roll Tide and

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Speaker 6: I more Eagle and Sean, Hey, no, man, welcome to Huntsville. Man,

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Speaker 6: you talk funny. I'm like, what do you mean I

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Speaker 6: I'm drinking coffee, doing tall radio. I had a thick,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because you don't wherever you're from. It's like

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Speaker 3: I'm a Southerner at heart.

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Speaker 2: For sure. I cannot stand New York.

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Speaker 6: I hate it and I can't even the words don't

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Speaker 2: Guy says roll tight. I said, what's that?

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Speaker 6: And then I literally became a star because of being

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Speaker 1: What did they pay you in Uh do you remember

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Speaker 2: And I don't remember. Nineteen thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: But this is always what we talked you guys are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? The Blaze? What did the Blaze pay you? I

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Speaker 7: So for you, buck, when I started writing online, I

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Speaker 3: I remember the first thing that I think I ever

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Speaker 3: It was National Review and I published article National Review

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Speaker 6: Now as I'm driving cross country, I'm not sure I

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Speaker 2: You just man, why can't I have that voice? Right?

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Speaker 6: And anyway, he was very, very pivotal in my career.

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Speaker 6: Competed against Neil Boortz, which was the best thing that

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Speaker 6: ninety six, when I left the Atlanta Journal Constitution, I

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm beginning to think that people don't like me.

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Speaker 6: I'm Glad Clay and buckdo Sean Buckett.

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Speaker 7: I talked a lot about your interview with Gavin Newsom. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: why do you think he did it.

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: I think he trusted me enough when I said I'd

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Speaker 6: with him. I said, look, I'm giving you my word.

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Speaker 6: I'm a man of honor. I said, I don't. We

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Speaker 6: and nobody's going to gain anything from that. I said,

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Speaker 6: He's nuts politically like the guy, very personable, I mean, he's.

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Speaker 3: You and Clay agree on this one. Charles, I want

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Speaker 6: He's a very likable guy, central casting politician. Remember when

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, he's he's.

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Speaker 1: Fuck makes fun of me Buck.

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Speaker 4: But I'm telling him Buck, why it's all right?

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Speaker 3: No, because because I just know that any day now

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Speaker 4: But you know, Sean, there's there's like a broad line.

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Speaker 2: Is good why he owns a winery?

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Speaker 1: I of course he does.

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Speaker 3: Look you want you know, wine with Gavin and stock

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Speaker 3: do up in California. But you know, Sean, and I

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace.

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Speaker 3: I remember the days when there was more debate, like

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Speaker 3: crossfire days. I feel like now our industry has turned

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Speaker 3: like these people at MSNBCCNN, name and network they name

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom came on your show, do you think the

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Speaker 6: Any time you put conservatism up against liberalism, it wins.

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Speaker 6: And I felt I wanted to be creative and come

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Speaker 6: make my points, but not have it be you know,

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Speaker 6: a long question or argumentative or disagree on facts. So

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Speaker 6: I came in with a pile of graphs and I said,

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Speaker 6: all right, here are the number of people leaving your state,

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Speaker 1: Week, including Buck Sexton, right.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, very smart, Buck, you have more sense than anybody.

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Speaker 6: And or this is the number almost population. This is

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Speaker 6: the list of businesses who are moving their headquarters out

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Speaker 2: You know, this is the these are.

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Speaker 6: The crime statistics, and and this is the cost for

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Speaker 6: of credit that when they see that, and he says, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm doubling down. You call O'Reilly uncle Bill. Really, I

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Speaker 2: I'm a simple man. I'm just gonna give a simple analysis.

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Speaker 4: So I think Gavin's preparing.

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Speaker 4: You buy into that.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a look at him. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: What I'd like to see.

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Speaker 6: The one thing that did surprise me, they've had this

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Speaker 6: You know which state is freer, which state has better policies,

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Speaker 6: Why is Florida gaining population? Why is California? Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 7: it on the editorial page and said, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 3: I don't know when, right, I mean, Sean, I think

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Speaker 6: I think well, to be honest, here, a guy by

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Speaker 6: They're even talking about the Florida trial and for Pierce.

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Speaker 6: Now at that time Sean long as I show my show.

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Speaker 3: But because we got a we got a technical. They're

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Speaker 3: yell atim. We've got to break Sean handed. Everybody showing

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 6: So much, yelling mamone just gave me the figure, by

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Speaker 4: But all right, Sean, thanks so much, Ben.

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Speaker 2: Russia, congrats on your success. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Clay.

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Speaker 3: Do we still have the Animal Thunderdome intro somewhere? Because

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you. Do do we have

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Speaker 3: I'll hit hit it for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Go for it, ladies and gentlemen. I'm just glad I

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Speaker 4: And good I thought he thought I was like this

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Speaker 3: This is Animal Thunderdome, all right, So Claire, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: It lose my life. It's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 3: So he's got a pretty good attitude about the situation

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Speaker 4: Now he's he's fine. He lost I mean, he lost

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 3: The worst way to to if you were gonna if

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Speaker 3: I put out the pole, Which one do you go with?

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Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna give you my answer, but we've

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Speaker 3: to think about this one worst way to go Shark, crocodile, bear,

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Speaker 7: Buck and I were texting this story back and forth

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Speaker 7: I want everybody to be careful out there, especially if

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Speaker 1: Because when you say something happened.

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Speaker 1: Here's a quote.

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Speaker 7: Couldn't have even served the gator food. It's completely not true.

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Speaker 7: And he said again, these guys saved his life. Another

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Angel saved him the.

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Speaker 3: full disclosure, have you ever left a crowded bar because

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Speaker 3: I one hundred percent have seen long lines in the

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Speaker 7: Next thing you know, he's attacked by an alligator and

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Speaker 3: So I gave you the options if you're meeting your maker,

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why. I think crocodile would be

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Speaker 3: the worst. I know, alligator, crocodile, This is an allex,

443
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Speaker 3: but you know it's a large reptile that eats you.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you my theory on why it's the worst.

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Speaker 3: Two analysis points one in the water, I think not

446
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Speaker 3: only would you be likely to be attacked by an

447
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Speaker 3: alligator of crocodile, you would know that you were being

448
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Speaker 3: eaten ripped to pieces.

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Speaker 7: But I also think the likelihood is you probably would drown.

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Speaker 7: So drowning is supposedly an awful way to go. They

451
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Speaker 7: do the death roll, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think you combine getting killed by a

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Speaker 3: live animal and also drowning, which sounds like the worst

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Speaker 3: possible way to go other.

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Speaker 1: Than like getting burned to death or something, which I will.

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Speaker 4: Tell you it was.

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Speaker 3: It was shocking to see there, or this little pole,

458
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Speaker 3: little Friday pole. There are thousands of people that weighed

459
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Speaker 3: in four thousand plus votes. Crocodile came in with the

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Speaker 3: worst way to think in the Animal Kingdom at least

461
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Speaker 3: of these options. I wanted to throw hippopotamus on there,

462
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Speaker 3: because they're actually incredibly dangerous and I just feel like

463
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Speaker 3: no one, you know, going by a hippo would be

464
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Speaker 3: like getting eaten by a panda bear, Like we still

465
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Speaker 3: think of them as cute, even though they're actually quite dangerous,

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Speaker 3: But it was fascinating to read the analysis that people

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Speaker 3: came up with Clay. In the comments, people went deep

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Speaker 3: on the like various all of a sudden, there must

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Speaker 3: be a lot of ems folks that are following me

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Speaker 3: on Twitter because they're talking about the difference in how

471
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Speaker 3: But everyone was like, lion, No big deal. Lions are

472
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Speaker 3: apparently they're just like, Yeah, they grab you by the neck,

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Speaker 3: You're out like a light, no problem. I think they

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Speaker 3: would end you quickly. Yeah, they say end quickly. Shark,

475
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Speaker 3: you're talking massive blood loss trauma. That probably also pretty

476
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Speaker 3: fast all things considered. Although just being in the water,

477
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Speaker 3: which you also have with the crocodile.

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Speaker 1: Very scary.

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Speaker 4: Some of the folks that wait in with the bear one.

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Speaker 3: The bear one was actually way worse than I thought

481
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Speaker 3: it would be because apparently airs they kind of maul slowly.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, people went very deep into the comments here.

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Speaker 3: Crocodile was the winner of the worst A bad way

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Speaker 3: to go?

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Speaker 1: What do you think happened to this guy?

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Speaker 3: Do you think he was just My theory would be

487
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Speaker 3: he was super drunk, super drunk, passed out and then

488
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Speaker 3: the allegat because I don't believe the alligator was there

489
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Speaker 3: like coming out of the water, like I think he

490
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Speaker 3: probably passed out at the water's edge was where alligators

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Speaker 3: their ambush hunters.

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Speaker 1: It's where they do it.

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Speaker 4: And and then you know it was, you know, it

494
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Speaker 4: just went for it. I don't know, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean that is I mean again when he says like

496
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Speaker 7: I was standing by the water, and I bet he

497
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Speaker 7: started to have a little bit of the spins. Maybe

498
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Speaker 7: he had a lot of drinks and then he just

499
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Speaker 7: went in the water. He's like he didn't drink.

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Speaker 3: I asked carry this question recently, and as a as

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Speaker 3: a transplanted New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: It's just I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like people that live in these areas would never

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Speaker 4: think about this.

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Speaker 3: So the the the habitat of the American alligator goes

506
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Speaker 3: up into its obviously, Florida's like you know Grand Central

507
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Speaker 3: for alligators, right, and then you go up and.

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Speaker 4: You see it in Georgia plenty of alligators.

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Speaker 3: Parts of eastern Texas, there are all of southeastern Texas

510
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Speaker 3: their alligators. But right around like the Carolinas, it starts

511
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Speaker 3: to stop right like the range slows down. But I asked,

512
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Speaker 3: this is a real question. We probably have an there

513
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Speaker 3: must be a zone where you think, oh, I'll just

514
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Speaker 3: go swimming in my lake house because there's like there's

515
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Speaker 3: no gators up here. But actually, you know, I mean

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Speaker 3: I think like like maybe part of South Carolina or

517
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Speaker 3: part of North Carolina, like there have to be places

518
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Speaker 3: where you think you're in the safe zone and you're

519
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Speaker 3: gonna go splashing around in the pond, but maybe you've

520
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Speaker 3: got a gator that's you know, got a fleece, got

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Speaker 3: a vest on or something.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point.

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Speaker 7: And also Florida people can get pretty cocky because you know,

524
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Speaker 7: you'll be out on your boat, you'll be out jet skiing,

525
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Speaker 7: you'll be out. They're not as afraid of alligators as

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Speaker 7: I would say a lot of people elsewhere are. And

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Speaker 7: the other aspect of this is that that is such

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Speaker 7: a good point because there are places like Memphis, for instance,

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Speaker 7: has Alle.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I just checked folks in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: You're you think you're all safe in Tennessee and Clay's

532
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Speaker 3: home state. There are alligators in Tennessee, but not many.

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Speaker 3: There are now some around Memphis. And if you're in

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Speaker 3: North Alabama, uh, I believe like around the Huntsville area

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Speaker 3: where the Tennessee River. There's there's certain places where there

536
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Speaker 3: are a few alligators there.

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Speaker 1: It definitely seems unfair.

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Speaker 7: That you would, you know, go jump in a lake

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Speaker 7: in Memphis and suddenly you should say from alligator.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I mean there was a there was one.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a total like the odds of this

542
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Speaker 3: or one in a million.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: There was a great white, great white shark attack, a

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Speaker 3: fatal one up off the islands of Maine that happened

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Speaker 3: a few years ago. So there's sometimes things, crazy things happen.

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Speaker 7: There's a great uh shark attack book about I think

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Speaker 7: it was like in the nineteen twenties, and it's part

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Speaker 7: of what inspired Jaws.

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Speaker 3: A great Matawan Creek, I know. Oh dude, I could

551
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Speaker 3: see we're talking with Montawan Creek all the time.

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Speaker 1: In a few days.

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Speaker 4: They think it was a bull shark nineteen eleven, maybe.

554
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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 3: This is like way off the coast, right, somebody's seven

556
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Speaker 3: miles inland, seven miles inland. You justually jump into a

557
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Speaker 3: freshwater creek and you get killed by a shineteen sixteen,

558
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Speaker 3: off in the Jersey Shore, there was a brackish creek

559
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Speaker 3: connecting to the ocean. It was nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 7: That's a great book. What's the name of the book

561
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Speaker 7: that they wrote about this? They think it was one

562
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Speaker 7: shark that killed tons of people because at the time,

563
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Speaker 7: and it goes all into the history.

564
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Speaker 3: Close to shore, the terrifying shark attacks of nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Is that the one I read?

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Speaker 7: I may be the book I read, A fantastic one

567
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Speaker 7: about this, this particular shark attack where they think it

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Speaker 7: was one.

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Speaker 3: There's one called I Survived the Shark Attacks. Well, that's

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Speaker 3: for kids.

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Speaker 7: Oh and I Survived books are actually my boys really

572
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Speaker 7: liked the I Survived Shark Attack books. But if you

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Speaker 7: want one to scare you, as we're coming in now

574
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Speaker 7: to the holiday season, to with Memorial Day weekend and

575
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Speaker 7: people typically going out to the beaches for the first time,

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Speaker 7: I'll look up during commercial break and see if I

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Speaker 7: can find the exact title of that book. But it

578
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Speaker 7: is really well done because it dives into but for

579
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Speaker 7: a long time, people didn't know whether sharks were dangerous, right, Like,

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Speaker 7: they didn't have like a good sense for because remember

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Speaker 7: it wasn't that long ago. People didn't used to go

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Speaker 7: into the ocean as leisure, right like, Oh, you're just

583
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Speaker 7: gonna go swim in the ocean, Like that wasn't something

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Speaker 7: that was very popular in the seventeen hundreds and the

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Speaker 7: eighteen hundreds and everything else. It's only the beach as

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Speaker 7: leisure that has really kind of taken off in the

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Speaker 7: last hundred years in many ways.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So it's a fascinating kind.

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Speaker 7: Of portrayal about the way that Americans decide to spend

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Speaker 7: their time and what the dangers are associated with it.

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Speaker 1: So put it on the radar. I'll look it up.

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Speaker 7: I'll share it with you if you want a fun

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Speaker 7: book that will also terrify you. Because I've been arguing

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Speaker 7: for a while, Buck, I think it's true the most

595
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Speaker 7: influential movie ever made in terms of changing everybody's behavior

596
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Speaker 7: was Jaws, Because I don't think there's a single one

597
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Speaker 7: of you out there that will go into the water

598
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Speaker 7: now and not think about getting eaten by a shark,

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Speaker 7: even though the odds are virtually zero, and you might

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Speaker 7: have done it before Jaws was made.

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Speaker 4: But you know, that guy who went.

602
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Speaker 3: To the pond probably thought the odds were zero, too, Buddy,

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Speaker 3: You never know.

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Speaker 1: Be careful stand in line for the bathroom. This weekend,

605
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Speaker 1: you might lose your arm.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise, if you look at the VIP email box and

607
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Speaker 3: the phone lines talking about when animals attack and people

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Speaker 3: get fired up, a lot of opinions, a lot of

609
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Speaker 3: people want to weigh in, a lot of stuff coming

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Speaker 3: in at us about.

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Speaker 4: All of that.

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Speaker 3: And we have a doctor John in Birmingham, Alabama, who

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Speaker 3: is a heart surgeon, has a story he wanted to

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Speaker 3: share with us. Doctor John, welcome, sir.

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Speaker 8: Hey, my friends love your show.

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Speaker 1: They appreciate that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll give you a brief. I just heard I

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Speaker 8: happened to be here in your show that came home

619
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Speaker 8: to eat twin cases. My wife listens to y'all. And

620
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Speaker 8: when I was doing my general surgery training in Mobile, Alabama,

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Speaker 8: back in nineteen eighty two to eighty seven, I was

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Speaker 8: a chief resident on trauma in the e mergency room

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Speaker 8: and we got a call from Andalujah, Alabama. Andaluja's you know,

624
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Speaker 8: on the way to the beach to death.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've driven, I've got by the way, I

626
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Speaker 7: have paid. I might have paid for the Andaluja Elementary

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Speaker 7: School to be built. With all the speeding tickets that

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Speaker 7: they give you for those of you who've ever driven

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Speaker 7: through Andalusia.

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Speaker 1: It is speeding ticket at Capital of America.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah, it's the speed trap of the world.

632
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Speaker 8: And if you've gone through Wing and Faker, Alabama, you

633
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Speaker 8: went past this lake. He just never saw it. But

634
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Speaker 8: this guy was riding his bicycle, older man. He had

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Speaker 8: his Labrador retriever with him, and there was that lake

636
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Speaker 8: and it was in the summer. He got off his bike,

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Speaker 8: it was hot, He jumped into lake. Dog got in

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Speaker 8: with him. But next thing he knew he was being

639
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Speaker 8: pulled under. He didn't know what it was, but what

640
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Speaker 8: he got. He got pulled under by an alligator. He

641
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Speaker 8: grabbed him at the shoulder and tours right, arm off

642
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Speaker 8: at the shoulder. And the only reason he's from ive

643
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 8: was because you know, the alligators kill you by drowning

644
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Speaker 8: you first, didn't they eat you? Well, he surfaced because

645
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Speaker 8: his arm was off, so he was able to get up. Luckily,

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Speaker 8: there were two fishermen out in the lake heard him screaming.

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Speaker 8: By the time they got to him, of course he

648
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Speaker 8: was in themorrhagic shot, but they got him to the shore.

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Speaker 8: They took him to a little hospital in Andalujah, Alabama,

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Speaker 8: which one of my buddies that I trained with, was

651
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Speaker 8: running the Merchy room that day. They saw him kind

652
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Speaker 8: of sewed off the ard, the breaking artery and break

653
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Speaker 8: the vein all that and the shoulder tied all that off.

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Speaker 8: Dress that didn't send him to us in mobile at

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Speaker 8: the University South Alabama. So I was running the Merchy

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Speaker 8: room that day. He comes in and basically we were

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Speaker 8: suscitating and got him well. The generals, the orthopedic surgeons

658
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Speaker 8: took him and over a period of days cleaned his

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Speaker 8: arm up, finally closed the wound, and he finally was discharged.

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Speaker 8: They went back in that lake and started looking for

661
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Speaker 8: the alligator, and they found it, and they gutted the

662
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 8: alligator and found that guy's arm in there. But the

663
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 8: cool thing that years later, when I was already in

664
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Speaker 8: practice as a heart surgeon here in Birmingham, but I

665
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 8: have been for thirty four years, I was going through

666
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 8: the grocery store and I don't know if y'all ever

667
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 8: heard of Guidepost magazine. I don't know if you've ever

668
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 8: y'all ever kept up with that, but it was like

669
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 8: a little Christian magazine and I just happened to call

670
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 8: the caption on it that said, eat arm eaten by

671
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Speaker 8: an alligator. And that was that guy from back in

672
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 8: the nineteen eighty seven, and I tracked him down by phone.

673
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 8: He still lives in Andalujah, Alabama. So that's just a

674
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 8: quick story something that maybe you know. I just thought

675
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Speaker 8: it was interesting when I.

676
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Speaker 7: Heard y'all have you ever seen that before? I mean,

677
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 7: I don't imagine that down a mobile. Y'all get too many, yea,

678
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 7: Alabama's not a thing you think.

679
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 8: Well, we got a bunch of snakes. I took care

680
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 8: of one of the worst Rattle state bites. And you know,

681
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 8: I gave one guy, a logger who was a lumber.

682
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 8: He got bit by a seven foot long Eastern common

683
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 8: back and he came in and shock and him. You

684
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 8: know they what that venom does is make you every

685
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 8: license your blood cells and you your pee blood. Your

686
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 8: blood doesn't clot. We gave him one hundred and nineteen

687
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 8: amps andy vet them oh before he he though he

688
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 8: would have died. And you know, we took care of

689
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 8: a lot of snake bites, some sharp bites, a lot

690
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 8: of burns, but nothing like that. I mean nothing where

691
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Speaker 8: And I to this day, I've still got a pick

692
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 8: I used to carry a camera on my locker back

693
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 8: in the day, of course I was a polaroid, but

694
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 8: and I took pictures of all the stuff I saw

695
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 8: when you know, through all the trauma we took care

696
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 8: of him back in those days. I've still got a

697
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 8: picture of that guy laying on the stretcher with his

698
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 8: arm off right there at the shoulder. But he lucky

699
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 8: to be a very fortunate for guy.

700
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Speaker 3: A huge concern. I know that people always talk about it,

701
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: you get, yeah.

702
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Speaker 8: But you know that they took even the first thing

703
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 8: that did to just we you know, we made sure

704
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 8: the bleeding was stopped, and then the outfit ex surgeons

705
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 8: for three days, took you to the o brea room

706
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 8: every day, washed him out, irrigated the wound, and then

707
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 8: finally once it was clean, pretty clean, they just mobilized

708
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 8: the skin and closed it like a stump like you do,

709
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 8: and an amputation on the leg. And he finally went home.

710
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 8: And like I say, the guy moved back to and

711
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 8: I just happened to see his name on a guide

712
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 8: Post magazine and I tracked him down and he's still

713
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 8: lived and we talked and he remembered vaguely about the

714
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 8: merger room experience.

715
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Speaker 7: Is the dog Okay, by the way, producer ally is asking.

716
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 8: Well, I get the dog did not get injured. The

717
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 8: dog was barking and that's the only reason that those

718
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 8: guys that were fishing in the lake hurting because the

719
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 8: dog was barking. Of course, when they got over there,

720
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 8: all they saw was just blood in the water and

721
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 8: blood on the shore. Then they saw him, but he

722
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 8: was in shock. You know, his blood pressure was.

723
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: About well, doctor John, I'm sure, I'm sure he appreciates

724
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: that you helped get him patched up and save his life.

725
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: Doctor John F. Alabama, thank you. I gotta take of

726
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: a story. I think of a story scaries. But this

727
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: is what I mean.

728
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: You're in Alabama.

729
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: If I were in Alabama, so hey, if you want

730
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: to go, you want to go, splash around the pond,

731
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: I'd splash.

732
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: Around the pond. No, well not anymore well Andalusia.

733
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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not kidding Buck, And I bet there

734
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 7: are people who have made this drive. If you have

735
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 7: ever gone down from you know, the Midwest, Nashville, Birmingham, Indianapolis,

736
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 7: if you're driving down to the Gulf Coast, there's a

737
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 7: good chance you've gone through Andalusia. It is the speeding

738
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 7: ticket trap of anywhere.

739
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Speaker 3: Now, when you say that, does that mean that even

740
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: if you're only to me, if if you get pulled

741
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Speaker 3: over and you're going, you know, within ten miles an

742
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: hour of the limit, like that's that's a little too tight.

743
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 7: Well, And it's one of those places, buck where. And

744
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 7: I know you guys out there know this. Some of

745
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 7: you are probably like looking down at at your speedometer

746
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 7: right now because you're like, oh, clease mention it. They

747
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 7: will change the speed limit by multiple times.

748
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, but like it'll go.

749
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Speaker 7: You're rowing along fifty five, you know, it's a back

750
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 7: road to Andalusia. Suddenly it's thirty five right like and

751
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 7: out of nowhere, and you really haven't changed anything, and

752
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 7: the cops are just sitting right there, just waiting to

753
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 7: pull you over. And I'm joking about it, but I

754
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 7: got hit in Andalusia. I mean, I'm not kidding. I

755
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 7: think I built their elementary school. It was like every

756
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 7: year I'd drive down to the destined you know, Panama

757
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 7: City Beach thirty a area, Florida Gulf Coast, and you

758
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 7: get down to what they call La Lower Alabama, and

759
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 7: I bet we got people who've listened down there, and

760
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 7: so this is southern Alabama where you're getting into Andalujah.

761
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Speaker 1: Buck.

762
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Speaker 7: But I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't think, you know,

763
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 7: the guy just hops in the lake. I'm sure he

764
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 7: didn't think that he was going to suddenly get attacked

765
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 7: by an alligator. You know, just out for a job,

766
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 7: you know, I thought when the doc was telling us

767
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 7: the story there, sometimes these alligators will come running out

768
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 7: and grab dogs, like.

769
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Speaker 1: We saw that video.

770
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, had that senior citizen, that woman who was out

771
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 7: walking like I think a cocker spaniel, a poodle whatever,

772
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 7: and the alligator came and grabbed the poodle and then

773
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 7: they end up.

774
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Grabbing the person to associated with that.

775
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 7: But man, that that area, that area of Alabama is

776
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 7: the all time speed uh speed capital.

777
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: Nice people, but many they will they maybe you have.

778
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: Not done a lot for the Tourism Bureau of Andalusia today,

779
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 3: if I may say so. Speeding tickets an alligator attacks, sir,

780
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: uh

781
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 7: I I used to get speeding tickets everywhere and uh

782
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 7: and I really got popped a lot down on the

783
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 7: drive to destined