1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooke. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and Buck with you? 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Buck? What is up? Man? Man? That's how much DJ 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: like get into it. 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: Like we're in the midst of March madness, and I 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 3: think is named after a reason, not because of what's 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: going on in the NCAA tournament, but because the madness is here. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Draft is a little over a month away, and you're going. 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: Through ditting your eyes, crossing your t's, making sure you 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: get everything done on the players that you like and. 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Some of the ones that you don't like. 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is time of year also where I 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: like to go through and find some PRODA guys, find 15 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: some non combine players to fill out you're viewing pleasure 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: during the draft cycle and in years past, five years ago, Buck, 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I could really find guys 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: during this time, Like maybe you might find a fifth 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: round pick. 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Man. 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Now, all these kids have transferred up, So if you're 22 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: trying to find a small school gem, those already been 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: found and they've already been plucked and paid, and I've 24 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: moved up a level, so it's just the small school 25 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: pool and the non combine pool is not as deep 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: as it used to be. 27 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: No, all done though, like all done when it comes 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: to that, and that's okay. You know, you go through 29 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: those things where we all are looking for, like the 30 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: hidden gym on the road or as we were talking 31 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: about on the road chasing ghosts. Yes, and man, I 32 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: heard about this kid, I gotta go find him. Yeah, 33 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: I gotta go find him in those things. But as 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: we've learned being in this for a long time, hey, man, 35 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: trust the tape. Like a lot of times we talk 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 3: about these full circle moments, like the player starts where 37 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: he starts at your initial reaction. Then we go through 38 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: all these things only to come back to right where 39 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: we started. 40 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of how we view them and how 41 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: we evaluate made no question we're gonna get to your 42 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: top fives here in just a moment. But I did 43 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: want to bounce this idea off of you. I did 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: this on Rich's show the other day. But I was 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: going back through and just looking through all the different positions, 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: and I was trying to think of, like, you know, 47 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: we talked about red stars and guys that we love 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: and wherever they might be in the draft, but just 49 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: guys who were wired the right way. And I started thinking, okay, well, 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: the guys I love are are just ultra competitive, like 51 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: energy givers, like like force multipliers, like those types of players. 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: And I went through and I'm like, you know, I'm 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: just going to jot down like a bunch of these names. 54 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: So I'm going to read off a bunch of the 55 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: names I jotted down to fit that description. Tell them 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: if there's anybody you have that that's outside of this list, 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: or if you want to double down on these guys. 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: But I had Ruben Bain from Miami, edgdresser, makay Lemon 59 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: sc receiver, Conte Scott Nickel corner from Miami, D'Angelo Pond's 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: corner from Indiana. Mesador defensive end Miami Sadiq is a 61 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, do everything blocker as well as what he 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: does in the past game at Oregon, Omar Cooper junior 63 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: receiver Indiana, Keelan Rutlich, Georgia tech guard McNeil Warren Manuel 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: McNeil Warren from Toledo's safety Bryce Betcher, the linebacker from Oregon, 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: and then I had Bud Clark down there as one 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: extra one safety. But all those guys kind of I 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: just I vibe with how. 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 2: They go about their business. Man, that's a nice list. Man. 69 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: Let me talk about the dvs that you mentioned first, right, 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: there are three of them that I absolutely look dj 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: going back and watching Keante Scott's tape, Holy smokes man, 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: I think he has made for the star position at 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: the next level. 74 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: He is so good as a blitzer, the way. 75 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: That he can come on those up and unders and 76 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: off the edge and has a feel for not only 77 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: getting to the quarterback, but how he can track down 78 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: runners on the backside. He is not afraid to put 79 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: his face in the fan, does all those things, but 80 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: then in coverage being able to play in the slot. 81 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: And this is funny because this is way back two 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: thousand and one, the late Dick Roach, who was the 83 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: dB coach for the Seattle Yak said, look, man, ideally, 84 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: a perfect secondary is going to be one free safety, 85 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: four corners that can go in, lock up and play. 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: And Kiante's got to me is who he was talking about. 87 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: The other player that goes with it, D'Angelo Ponds from Indiana. 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: I wrote him my notes. Man. 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: He reminds me of Kenny Moore from the Indianapolis coach 90 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: has had a long successful career. Instincts, awareness, toughness, physicality 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: is there. He hasn't played a ton inside, but I 92 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: just know with his IQ, he's gonna be able to 93 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: do it. And finally, Bud Clark, Bud Clark, much like 94 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: Keantay Scott, when I look at the frame, they're those 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: guys that can be those covered Nickel types, but also 96 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: they have the awareness and to want to to kind 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: of mix it up. All three of those guys when 98 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: I think about next level Nickels, productive players that are 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: that that twelfth starter, as you would say, all can 100 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: have a ton of success. And I like how they're 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 3: were because you talked about the vibe. There's a vibe 102 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: about their game. When you see them, you're like, oh, yeah, 103 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: I definitely would want them on my team. 104 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: And that McNeil Warren to me to round out the 106 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: d just someone he'll smack you in the middle of 107 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: the field and then he'll go take the ball away. 108 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Like usually you get one of the other, you don't 109 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: get both. That's why I'm a huge fan of his game. 110 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: Oh look, so so one of the guys and he 111 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: helps up with the rams and I think I won't 112 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: be speaking out of turn. Corey Moore, Coachman High School, 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: said back, I told you about this guy years ago. 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, coach, how do you get 115 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: from Florida all the way up to Toledo. He's like, oh, 116 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: we had a pipeline, Like, we had a bunch of 117 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: guys that had gone up there and had success. I 118 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: knew the coaching staff and I knew that they would 119 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: be okay if then that's why I ended up up there. 120 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: And I was like, why didn't he transfer out? He 121 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: was like, well, they saw a couple years before Quinnan 122 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: Mitchell went from there. Why do I need to leave 123 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: if I can get that? And I know there were 124 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: people because the combine and the track me and the 125 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: the sizzle may not have been there when it came 126 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: to his forty, but DJ. 127 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: When you watch him field workout was awesome. 128 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: When you watch him play, and I said, it's rare 129 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: that guys are natural center fielders who also are a 130 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: box area Bandits mean they can come into box, you're 131 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: not afraid to mix it up in the run game, 132 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: they can take the ball away, they can re react 133 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: like linebackers. 134 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: He has all of that, and it's gonna be funny 135 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: because he's may drop a little bit too. 136 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: Like we were talking about him maybe in the mid 137 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: first round, maybe goes to the bottom of the first 138 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: round or whatever. He's gonna play and he's gonna play 139 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: well because his game is Taylor made for the pros, 140 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: and he has so much versatility in terms of what 141 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: he can do. I think coach is gonna fall in 142 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: love with him when they put him in and put 143 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: him in the defense. 144 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: He's one of those ones. I was thinking about it. 145 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna see where I had him on the 146 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: initial one. Okay, yeah, so he's he was on my 147 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: first list, he was my nineteenth player, then the second 148 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: list he was my fifteenth player, and then the third 149 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: list he is sixteen. So he's he's kind of he's 150 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: been in there, he's settling there. I'm not punting on him, man, 151 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm keeping him right where he is. 152 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: He's really good. And he saw that and now I'm 153 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: gonna go to another guy. And I loved him when 154 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: I watched it. Kellan Reledis from Georgia Tech. Yeah, these 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: are man. The movement skills, yep, just how he moves around, 156 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: how he climbs to the next level. He has all 157 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: the nastiness or whatever. And I feel like people were 158 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: maybe surprised by what he did at the Combat and 159 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Jersey movement. 160 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: I was like, shouldn't be if you looked at the table. 161 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: This is what he did, turn in the corner, getting 162 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: up on guys on the next level, finishing with violence. 163 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: He has all that underrated but really highly value for me. 164 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: I dig him. Like we talked about the vibe and energy. 165 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: I definitely would want him in the. 166 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Hoddle with me. 167 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: No, no, no question. All right, look, let's uh, let's 168 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: pause early here, take a quick break. We'll come back. 169 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: I want to get to your your top five after this. 170 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: All right, buck, start us off here. I've got to 171 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: listen in front of me. If you've got it, you 172 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: can let it rip quarterbacks on your start ups with 173 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: your top five there. 174 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Oh man, Like you talk about letting it rip without 175 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: it even being there. Like, I think the only movement 176 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: that I made is it's pretty standard. Right, it's Mendoza, 177 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: it's Simpson. I moved Garrett Nusmyer up to three, Carson 178 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: Beckett four, and then Drew Allen, the one who is 179 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: the biggest beneficiary in terms of the deep dive in 180 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: the next look has been Nusmer. 181 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: And there's a time where when we end this process. 182 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: That we can look at the measurables and all these 183 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: other things, but then you have to remember how a 184 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: person played, and if we're doing it right, it's not 185 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: just how someone performs their last year, it's the total 186 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: body of work. And when I go back and I 187 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: look at Nussmeyer twenty twenty four, I understand why the 188 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: buzz was there. 189 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: And then when you. 190 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: Start to put together things son of an NFL coach 191 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: understands how to play the game at a high level. 192 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: He can talk about the injuries in those things. But 193 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: there's a rhythm and a cadence to this game where 194 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: you're like, okay, man, I dig this. And when I'm 195 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: looking for a day two player, someone that can come 196 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: get in the game and make it happen right offense, 197 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: this dude is going to be terrific. And you saw 198 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: him earn the MVP at the Senior Bowl. We've seen 199 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 3: him perform better. When we talk about the comment, I 200 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,479 Speaker 3: know combine and workouts at not games, but it rekindles 201 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: the love affair that you might have had with him 202 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: when you watch the tape from his junior season. 203 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: To me, it's going to be fascinating with these guys. 204 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: You know, Mendoza goes one, Ty Simpson, we assume you know, 205 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: it is either going to go late one arly two. 206 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: At least that's where I think he is right now. 207 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: If he went in the top half of the first round, 208 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: I guess it's possible. I would be surprised. But then 209 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: it's like when is when does three go? Like when 210 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: is that happening? That's what I'm fascinated to see because 211 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: I you know, you get to nuss Meyer beck Aler, 212 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: like I think people have those guys in all different orders. 213 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: But my question is going to be how long is 214 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: the gap? 215 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the main thing. 216 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: And I mean when we talked about this, like it's 217 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: funny because they have been many guys that have come 218 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: from what I call out the crypt guys that were 219 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: none first round quarterbacks, that have had major impacts international 220 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: foot well the like, it's just not that so who 221 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: has the developmental potential, who has the guy that can 222 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: who's the guy that can be a short term starter 223 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: and those things and maybe you kind of hit on 224 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: something like a Dak prescotto with Jalen Hurts. But it's 225 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: because it's a rarity. We'll see I like neus Meyer 226 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: as that guy. To me, man like Carson Beck is 227 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: more of a placeholder. Drew Aller, you're just throwing a dart. 228 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: I just have my look, I got my pants circling ness. 229 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: Mayer is doing a Let's keep an eye on him. 230 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: Let's see what he what he does, and how he 231 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 3: performs when he gets his opportunity at the next level. 232 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I can. I can definitely see people enjoying 233 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: what they saw on Nesmer when you go back to 234 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: twenty four versus what we saw this year with all 235 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: the injuries and just kind of a messy program that 236 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: they had there the running back position. Buck, You've got uh, 237 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: You've got Jeremiah Love one, You've got Prices teammate too, 238 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: Emma Johnson from Nebraska three, Jonah Coleman four, and Mike 239 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: Washington Junior is five on that list. 240 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: Mike Washington is the guy that is the one that 241 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: is the Johnny come Lately. You had an opportunity to 242 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: get exposed to him early because you saw him at 243 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: the senior ball I just know when you're big, fast 244 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,119 Speaker 3: and physical, there's always. 245 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: An opportunity for you to be able to get it done. 246 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: And when he ran that four three three at the Combine, 247 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 3: I know there were a lot of coaches eyes that 248 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: lit up, and much like you remember j a Ji, Yeah, Boise, 249 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 3: he stayed and how he ran the time and it 250 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: didn't help him in terms of draft status, but he 251 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 3: had a lot of success in the league. Mike Washington 252 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: may be one of those guys that can be physical 253 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: between the tackles, but that that speed is legit. That's 254 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: home run speed that we're talking about. It'd be interesting 255 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: to watch his career and watch how he continues to 256 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: work out and if he can kind of get into 257 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: that conversation when we talk about day two and win 258 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: in day two, will his name come. 259 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: Off the board. 260 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he definitely helped himself and he's got 261 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: an intriguing mix of skills there and a jadarian price. 262 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: I think, Look, I think he's gonna go on the 263 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: first forty pecks or not. He can get into the 264 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round or not, we'll see, but 265 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: he he's a good player, had a really good workout and. 266 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: I wrote my notes. Yeah, I wrote my notes with him, 267 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: because you remember. 268 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: When Josh Jacobs was coming out, Josh Jacobs was splitting 269 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: time with Damien Harris, and it is rare that we'll 270 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: call it in college, an RB two becomes not on 271 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: Elyn RB one in the pros, but a rushing champ. 272 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: I think Price may have that following the thing. He 273 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: is supernatural and we can talk about a production. But 274 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: the guy he played with is really special. And so 275 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 3: the two big kickoff returns that you see on tape 276 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: where he puts it in the paint, the physicality people 277 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: to talk about the Kenny kesterball out the backfield. 278 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: We determined that in workouts. 279 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: But there are a lot of things that suggest that 280 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: he would be a feature back at the next level. 281 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm a fan of his. Let's get to 282 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: the now. We've got a new one here, Buck, Let's 283 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: go slot wide receiver for right here. Yeah, do you 284 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: have it in front of hend Yeah? 285 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: I got it, Go for it. 286 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: So slot receivers mikle Omar Cooper, Junior zachar riat branch 287 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: Casey Conception, and Antonio Williams from Clemson Mi cav limon 288 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: I think everyone knows when you watch the tape he 289 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: plays Z and F that's an easy one. Omar Cooper 290 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 3: is the name that everyone is buzzing about because as 291 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: you dig into his game, you're like, hey man, this 292 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: is a consumman pro. I would say, steady, not full 293 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: of pizazz or flashy, but just you know what you're getting. 294 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: I wrote in my nose, like just a chain move. 295 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: I know when we put him in, he's gonna be reliable. 296 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: He's gonna move the chains. He's gonna be an ideal 297 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: compliment on the backside of a dominant receiver. He's gonna 298 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: have a lot of success being able to kind of 299 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: live in that role. So to me, you talk about 300 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: in the top forties, people talking about in the first round. 301 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: I don't know where he comes from, because I think 302 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: it really starts when the initial run of wide receivers happen. 303 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: But to me, if you can comfortably put him in 304 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: that role, we can play in the slot and do 305 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: a bunch of different things in your subpackage, you have 306 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: a lot of success because he's a steady pro. 307 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: To me, yeah, to me, he's tough too. When you 308 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: think about him and m Kayle Lemon. Both those guys 309 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: at the top of your slot receiver list really really 310 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: tough guys. And then after that you get the three 311 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, dynamic players with Zach Bryer, Brandts Concepcion, and 312 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: Antonio Williams. 313 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: I like all three of those guys. Yeah, no, they're good. 314 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: And look, I had a receiver coach in the league. 315 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: Tell me, man, Antonio Wims is the one that he 316 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: just fell in love with in terms of just the 317 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: quickness to burst what he does on those bubble screens 318 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: and gadget plays, and we'll see the theme. 319 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: All these guys have some return ability. 320 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: Uh, and that only speaks to the hand i coordination, 321 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: but it is their ability to run and maneuver in traffic, 322 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: which you love when you have a guy that's working 323 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: over the middle of the field. 324 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: All right, we're just gonna do the skill players here. Well, 325 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: we'll save the big guys for another episode. But let's 326 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: let's go over to the defensive side of the ball. Buck, 327 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: Let's get to some pass rushers and edge rushers. I 328 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: say skill position. I'm gonna label these guys as skill guys, 329 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: but you're outside linebackers top five. 330 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's interesting, DJ, could you break it up right? 331 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: You got your more your base insights which where I 332 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: put Ruben bah in those But the outside linebackers are 333 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: to me, the two point stands the upfield pass rushes, 334 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: David Bailey, cash Is, how TJ. Parker, Gabe Yakis, and 335 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: then R Mason Thomas, And I think there's been a 336 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: lot of conversation about Bailey and even how TJ. Park 337 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: is a guy to me that maybe is not getting 338 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: taught about enough. But when you watch and man speed 339 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: quickness first, uh has a natural feel to being able 340 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback. And I'm gonna be honest 341 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: with you, I don't know what happened in Clemson this 342 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: year because when I look at their into a lot 343 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: of guys that, man, they have a lot of players 344 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: that are talented. Parker, Peter Woods a bantyreal those three guys. 345 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: That could go in the first round, like in terms 346 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: of like the tackle that could go in the first round, 347 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle running back into solid player. 348 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: I mean, so whatever went off the rails, Parker is 349 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: a really good player. 350 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: And then our Mason Thomas stands out to me. 351 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: I wrote down Junkyard dog motor and after watching Nick 352 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: Bonito have success with the Denver Broncos just in terms. 353 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: Of just a steady, all day sucker. 354 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: Our Mason Thomas has a path to be very successful 355 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: getting after the passer, creating persistent pressure. He just gets it. Man, 356 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: He's almost like a wind up doll. You just turned 357 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: the crank and he goes and he just is relentless. 358 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: Off the edge. 359 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's an interesting one just because he's 360 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: not super heavy, but he plays. I thought he played 361 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: bigger than that. He waited at two forty one, but 362 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: he plays, I mean a lot heavier than that when 363 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: you watch him. Parker and Cashus howel for me, Buck, 364 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: I have Parker is my twenty seventh player. Howls my 365 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighth player. So you having those guys right next 366 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: to each other, I mean, I'm a si different flavor. 367 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: Man, different flavor, but they live in the same world. 368 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: They're there, And I'll say this, Yakas was at the 369 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: Senior Bowl right. 370 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: Like he is, I think, but I think it's acus As. 371 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but watching him, he's kind of a persistent rusher 372 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: where you start looking and you come with these guys 373 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: and I didn't have a chance to include them. But 374 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: like Malacy Lawrence, when I watch all these guys, there's 375 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: some similarities in terms of just the persistence off the edge, 376 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: how hard they play. To me, that's the thing that 377 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: stands out. And for years we've talked about playing hard 378 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: as a skill, and these guys are wired the right 379 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: way with their motor. They get after it. They are 380 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: relentless in their pursuit of the quarterback and ball carriers. 381 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: And because of that, I think it gives them a chance. 382 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: All right, run through, run through your linebacker. 383 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: Sir, man linebackers DJ. 384 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: I think this is a nice class, and talking to coaches, 385 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: they just talk about like how this class is solid 386 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: and how these guys can help arbel Resa have listened 387 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: as a linebacker Sonny styles. 388 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: We know about CJ. 389 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: Allen, Old school thumper, Anthony Hill from Texas and Jacob Rodriguez. 390 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: I want to talk about Reguez first before I talk 391 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: about Anthony Hill, because to me, he'll just kind of 392 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: flying out of the spotlight. Rodriguez, the thing that I 393 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: loved about him on tape is man I wrote down my. 394 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: Notes all over the place. 395 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: Man plays much faster than he is as an athlete, 396 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: just instincts awareness, diagnostic skills. That's gonna give him a chance. 397 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: Didn't expect him to perform. Well, that's coming. Then you 398 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: see him at the combine in four or five, seven, six' Nine, 399 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: Kondrew you're, like whoa much better athlete to go? With 400 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: a guy who has a knack for splash. Plays it 401 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: shows up on tape, Now i'm, like, oh second round 402 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: pick all. 403 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: Day he has the. Goods And Anthony hill is another. 404 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: One At. Texas you see him do a bunch of different. 405 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: Things track, background shows, up comes off the, edge makes, 406 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 3: plays tackles for, losses, sacks kind of rugged And i'm 407 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: gonna say this young still growing into his. Game he 408 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: sits in a weird spot because we talk ABOUT. Cj 409 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: and we talk about the. Guys we don't talk enough about. 410 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: Him but he's someone who's. Interesting he's someone who's. 411 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: Interesting, YEAH i think HE i, MEAN i wouldn't be 412 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: shocked if we woke up and he went ahead of C. J, 413 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: Allen LIKE i have C. J allen over. Him BUT 414 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: i think that's. Close and he's had a healthier process, 415 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: here you, know going through the, spring SO i would 416 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: NOT i would not. 417 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Rule that out at. 418 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: All he is a, really really good player we talked, 419 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: About we've talked About, nickels top Here, buck but just 420 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: how to just stack those. 421 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: Guys, yeah WHEN i look At nichols and it's such 422 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: a unique position in terms of trying to make it 423 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 3: like it's the. 424 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: Start is it a nickel? Safety is a nickel? 425 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: CORNER i Put Avian terrell and Nickel, Keyanta scott, D'Angelo, 426 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 3: Pons Keith adney From Arizona, state and Then Bud, clark 427 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: the guy that we haven't talked, About Avian. 428 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: Terrell Avian tyrell is to. 429 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: Me Like marlon humph WHEN i think about just his 430 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 3: ability to get around the, ball. 431 00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: Knock it out. 432 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: Turnovers eleven turnovers he's responsible for doing As Simon, clemson 433 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: eight of those are forced. Fumbles he's just a, pro 434 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: obviously having an older brother that plays in the. League 435 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: he just looks. Refined and to, me the convincing thing 436 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: was watching the on field workout at the. COMMENT i 437 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: love all on, tape but the movement, skills how easy 438 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: the turns and transitions pro and, typically, man we like 439 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: those high A q, guys those polished guys to go 440 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: into the slote and be that nickel. Corner that's why 441 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: there's a lot of love for me from him and In. 442 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: Abney DJ i just never seen this and reading through the, 443 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: bio a guy's a three time national champion roller, skater 444 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: AND i just think about the agility and the dexterity 445 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: to balance and body control that is required to do. 446 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: That then when you watch him on, tape man, energizer 447 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: buddy plays with a live. 448 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: Life he just very. 449 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: COMPETITIVE i like that to, me he fits that role 450 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: as that corner that you put inside or. 451 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: Outside. UH i JUST i just love not only the, 452 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: story BUT i love the game THAT i. 453 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: Watched don't TAKE i would say the other ONE i 454 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: would throw right in. THERE i Have abney one spot 455 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Over Chandler rivers From. Duke SO i know you couldn't 456 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: put him in there because The duke. 457 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: Guy but he's a good. Player. 458 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: Man they're winning everything Do they didn't win the men's 459 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 3: women's basketball, Football LIKE i just. 460 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: CAN'T i can't take This duke thing. 461 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: Where they're becoming an athletic. Power it just drives me absolutely. 462 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: Crazy but they have some really good. Players you talk about, 463 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Them djay got a couple of, guys frontline guys that 464 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: are gonna be. Drafted they have an offensive tackle center 465 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: guide type that there are a lot of good players 466 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: that are coming from. There but you're you're, Right Chandler 467 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: rivers is one to, watch no. 468 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: Doubt All, Right before we before we jump out of, 469 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: HERE i just want to ask you one. Question are 470 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: we are we in danger of over hyping the following 471 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: year's quarterback? Class you, know we get accused of, that 472 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: AND i mean we like anybody who covers the draft 473 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: on a yearly basis of always over hyping the next. 474 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Group what do you? 475 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: THINK i, mean, LOOK i think there's some danger that 476 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: like in terms of like looking ahead to the next. 477 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Roupe but here's what we know to be. 478 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: True we know that Archment Archie manning could be in 479 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: that that crew And archies. 480 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: In, there he is going to be highly. 481 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: Respected you can see and saying it because LIKE i 482 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: see it all the time going to those games like 483 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: he has. That then we talk About Dante moore's talent 484 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: didn't show, up has some issues in the, playoff but 485 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: you can't deny the talent he is. 486 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: There, uh some of the other players saying. 487 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 3: From orist he was throwing it all over the, yard came. 488 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: KR i, mean, like so there's some intriguing Guys. 489 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Trinida And SHAMBLISS i think would have been in the next, 490 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: class second quarterback in this. 491 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: Draft SO i think. 492 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: The, fascination the fascination and excitement over that class is 493 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: warranted based on the now you can't hold us to. 494 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: Us there's a reason why when you work as a, 495 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: scout you have summer grades and then you have your real. 496 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: Grades the summer grades, are, hey here are the guys 497 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: That i'm interested in ahead of the. Season let's go 498 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 3: make sure we get A LuxI. Early and maybe it 499 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: lives up to WHAT i initially thought because Now i'm 500 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: studying him as opposed to flash. Scouting but, yeah, initially, 501 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: YEAH i like what is coming down the pipeline for the. 502 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: Class AND i know people, say, well you said it 503 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: last year About Club nick and all Those, yeah BUT 504 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: i feel like when we wrote those, things you always 505 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: do the first look and those. THINGS i still don't 506 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: think we. 507 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: Put, big big. 508 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: Grades on any of those guys that we talked. 509 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: About next year's class is different because they're big expectations 510 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: and grades on those guys going into the. 511 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Season no, QUESTION i don't think it's. HYPERBOLE i do 512 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a good, year AND i 513 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: do think that it was accurate the year, Before Kayleb 514 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: williams came out And Drake may came. Out, Now Jayden 515 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: daniels joined the, party but those two guys were made, 516 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Men like we knew those guys were going to be, 517 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: real real dudes with complete skill sets who didn't lack. Anything, 518 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: yeah no. 519 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: Surprises the surprise out of that was That jade And 520 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: daniels made the jump that he. Made but then we 521 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: brought the guys up here and they talked About. Roochie 522 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: them talked about THE vr and digging into. It and 523 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: he was an older, player so he didn't have classes 524 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: so he could pour himself into the. 525 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: Sport all that. 526 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: Fact and remember it's a developmental. Sport people can't get 527 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: better with more reps and more time and more. 528 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: EXPERIENCE i was talking to an agent the other day 529 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: who repped a quarterback who was a top pick and 530 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: it didn't work out for. Him, Right there's been a 531 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: lot of them that didn't work, out and this is 532 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: one that didn't have a lot of, Experience, Okay and 533 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: we started talking about the benefits of having those starts in, 534 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: college and you, know not not only just for the 535 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: benefit of you, know seeing more, defenses making more, throws 536 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: like getting more experiences that, way he said when he 537 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: was talking to him about, it you, know after the, 538 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: fact he, said there's also the fact that you kind 539 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: of you learn what you like and what you don't, 540 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: like and you kind of find you the more you're in, 541 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: college you get to a place where you're starting forty 542 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: games in, college you have now you have a little 543 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: more authority on the. Offense you can go to the 544 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: office coordinator and say, hey, this, yes that, no and 545 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: you kind of find your voice a little bit in 546 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: terms of taking some ownership of it as opposed to just, 547 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: hey what's the Play, OKAY i gotta remember the play, 548 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: call get the play, call and then let's go execute. 549 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: It like there is more value on those reps other 550 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: than just going out there and seeing different coverages and 551 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: making more. 552 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: Throws. Buck, yeah reps. 553 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: Matter you, know we talk about the art of deliberate, 554 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: practice being able to see it in game, action having 555 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: the game slow down when you talk to players about 556 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 3: what was the biggest, Thing, Man i've played so, long 557 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: the game is in slow. 558 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: Motion that's the benefit of having guys that have played a. 559 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: Ton when you Are International Football, league, like there can 560 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: be a bit of a tendency to go and survival 561 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: mode because the game is so, fast so you're just 562 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: trying to. 563 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: Survive let me get to the checkdown and get it out. 564 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: My, hands as opposed to, no let me play the 565 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: game LIKE i KNOW i feel this, coming BUT i 566 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: have a lot more time THAN i think to be 567 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 3: able to fully exhaust the. Process that's where the experience. 568 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: Matters that's why you like guys that have played a. 569 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: Ton that's WHERE i use the Brock purty or even 570 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 3: the Bow nicks comparison to terms that they played so 571 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: much that when they got to the, pros the game 572 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: was surprisingly slower for them than, anticipated and they played 573 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: better than. Anticipated, YEAH i mean all of that. Matters 574 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: just the experience factor is such a huge benefit to 575 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: these guys when they have an opportunity to go to the. 576 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: Pros and we also talked about HOW nio could help 577 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: the product at Quarterback International Football league because there's not 578 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: the rush to get to the money because you're already 579 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: getting money when you're playing game cop no. 580 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: Doubt all, right, well this is a fun. One you 581 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: get a chance to dive into some of the positions 582 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: there On bucks top five if you can find the 583 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: rest of, IT nfl Dot. Com anything you want. 584 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: To add before we jump out of, here Buck, NAH 585 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: i mean it's always WHEN i love doing. 586 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: It good. 587 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: Stuff appreciate you guys. Hanging we'll see you next time 588 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: right here on movie. 589 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: Stage