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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Callida. Help.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's everybody doing out there? Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker with you. One Bill's Live. Not from Training Camp.

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Speaker 2: We are in Rochester, but we are on West Henrietta Road.

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Speaker 2: Maddie lab joining us right off the top of the

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Speaker 2: show here and we'll get to that in just a second.

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Speaker 2: But we are out here at the Delta Sonic twenty

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Speaker 2: nine seventy West Henrietta Road.

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Speaker 3: Come get a Carlo and.

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Speaker 2: The car wash line is up and running it is now.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we're out here and some fans are strolling in,

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Speaker 2: happy to have them with us and observing the show.

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Speaker 2: So pretty cool to be out here, you know, amongst

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Speaker 2: our public. Steve already making rabbit ears behind Maddie because

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Speaker 2: that's what he does. And Training Camp has done, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's over. Yeah, what the heck? Like we blinked and

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Speaker 2: it was done. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk with Sean McDermot a little bit today, and

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Speaker 1: it kind of makes you feel like, Okay, we're wrapped

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Speaker 1: up here. But they they have done nothing. They haven't

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Speaker 1: cut anybody. They haven't you know, haven't really sustained any

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Speaker 1: significant injuries at this point unless I'm forgetting somebody, you know,

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Speaker 1: some minor stuff, but we're still time to see him

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Speaker 1: play a game.

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Speaker 3: Twelve practices so far.

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Speaker 4: We did eleven out here at Saint John Fisher University,

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Speaker 4: one at Highmark Stadium. That was the return of the

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Speaker 4: Blue and Red practice scrimmage. So we've been out here

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Speaker 4: for about two and a half weeks. Now it's time

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Speaker 4: to go back to Orchard Park to Highmark Stadium for

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Speaker 4: the guys to go through the rest of training camp

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Speaker 4: and begin preseason practices. Really, we've got that Colts preseason

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Speaker 4: game coming up on Saturday, and we heard from Sean

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Speaker 4: McDermott earlier and he really said, once we get into

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Speaker 4: these preseason games, we'll start to see some of the

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Speaker 4: competitions going on between position groups. Hopefully that starts to

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Speaker 4: take shape, take form as to who are the guys

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Speaker 4: that are gonna win those spots cornerback, linebacker, right guard.

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Speaker 4: There's still some competitions going on, and Sean McDermott said,

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Speaker 4: you know, we haven't seen a guy in some of

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Speaker 4: these spots really emerge as the guy who's going to

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Speaker 4: be the starter. So we'll see once the reps start

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Speaker 4: to become live because we've seen a lot of thud.

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Speaker 3: The last two and a half weeks.

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Speaker 4: We really haven't seen any live reps out of these

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Speaker 2: It's gonna take some preseason games to create some separation

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Speaker 2: because coach McDermott said this morning, nobody's really separated themselves yet,

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Speaker 2: so still pretty close in some of those position battles

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Speaker 2: that Maddie. If you are leaving training camp now to

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Speaker 2: head back home and you're going back to Buffalo, stop here,

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Speaker 2: pop in. Whether you need you're gonna need gas, fillip

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Speaker 2: your tank, whether you want to wash your car after

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Speaker 2: the rain storm we had this morning, or whether you

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Speaker 2: need some snacks for the road trip back to Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: You can do that and stop here at where we

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Speaker 2: are at twenty nine to seventy West Henriette at the

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Speaker 2: Delta Sonic location. Or if you're local and you're in

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Speaker 2: the area, you want to pop by and say hi,

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Speaker 2: check out the show for a little bit. Be happy

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Speaker 2: to say hello to you as well. But we've got

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Speaker 2: Maddie here right off the top of the show because

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Speaker 2: training camp has concluded, and that means instantaneous training camp awards.

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Speaker 2: Her awards are already up on Buffalo Bills dot Com,

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Speaker 2: but we thought we would amplify those here on the

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Speaker 2: show today. So kick us off, Maddie. What do we

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Speaker 2: usually start with MVPs?

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Speaker 3: Right, let's do MVPs.

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Speaker 4: We'll do offense first, And I mean, this could go

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Speaker 4: to a few different guys, but you've got to give

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Speaker 4: it to Josh Allen himself. It couldn't go to anybody

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Speaker 4: else because the way that this offense works, of course,

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Speaker 4: it's through Josh Allen. Returning players like Stefan Diggs gave Davis, Dawson, Knox,

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Speaker 4: so that was really exciting to watch. Throughout training camp,

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Speaker 3: He is that dude. He is that guy.

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Speaker 4: You wonder how can you get even better as you

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Speaker 4: Part, and we saw some practices where the offense struggled

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Speaker 4: But I think Josh and Ken Dorsey, the offensive coordinated

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Speaker 2: There was one play, Steve yesterday you and I both.

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Speaker 1: Watched, Yeah I heard you on this morning with Jeremy

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Speaker 2: Dalton kink down the left sideline eventually gets open on

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Speaker 2: Josh needs to get back to instead of looking for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because in the past, even when Josh did go

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Speaker 1: Every team does it defensively. Once in a while, guy

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Speaker 1: He wanted to get the big one. And yesterday was

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Speaker 1: And he did. So. Hope it's indicative, and.

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Speaker 4: This is the time to test things out, to try

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be rewarded in that way by taking

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Speaker 2: you got two more MVP awards.

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Speaker 4: So we got the defensive MVP. I'm giving that to

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Speaker 3: And this was a guy.

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Speaker 3: Was going to be like.

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Speaker 4: If Mike hid to Jordan Poyer would be back together

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Speaker 4: And you could see just how important those two people,

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Speaker 4: You have Sean McDermott now calling the plays on defense,

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Speaker 4: You can do things as a first year play caller

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Speaker 1: And don't forget, we didn't think he was going to

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Speaker 1: have him on the field. He plays at a high level,

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Speaker 1: Good to see him, you know, amazing. We're here with

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Speaker 1: him as a defensive MVP of camp. Where we were

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Speaker 4: And the balls are coming to his way during practices, Brownie,

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Speaker 4: You and I talked about that quite a bit. The

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Speaker 4: action was coming Jordan Poyer's way in several practices and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the most important thing is he's

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Speaker 2: coming out of training camp healthy health dot On would yeah,

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Speaker 2: because that was not the case last year. He had

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Speaker 2: the elbow injury already suffered in training camp. All right,

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Speaker 2: rookie MVP, rookie, I think this is probably one of

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, if you were a practice you got

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Speaker 4: blessed with seeing Dalton Kincaid within this offense. And I

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Speaker 4: know we want to temper these expectations, as Sean McDermott

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Speaker 4: and Ken Dorsey have been telling us to do so.

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Speaker 4: But it's hard when you see Dalton out there and

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Speaker 4: you see the hands that he has. You talk to players,

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Speaker 4: He carries himself in a different way. And then you

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Speaker 4: watch practice and you see the balls that Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: is throwing to Dalton Kincaid. I remember one where Tyrrell

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Speaker 4: Dodson was on him and Josh threw one down the

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Speaker 2: Pro and maybe the most encouraging thing is the last

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Speaker 2: the last two days he has dominated in the passing game.

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Speaker 2: It was like tight end. There was one scoring drive

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Speaker 4: He was there to make the play. Sometimes it's not

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Speaker 4: easy to catch the deflection. And Dalton again the hands,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But his last two days, Yeah, Dawson, the last

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Speaker 4: All Right, best connection is going to Josh Allen and

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Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs. It was on fire from the start of camp.

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Speaker 4: All is well with the Buffalo Bills, Stefan Diggs and

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Speaker 4: He had a great camp. He's had what three straight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, moving on, what we got next?

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Speaker 4: He thinks it'll be a really good year for him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say too that he does. There's

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Speaker 1: The camp. The training camp has gone consistently well for him,

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Speaker 3: And he looks strong in there.

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Speaker 1: He does look he looks a little bit thicker in

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Speaker 1: It's as consistent as training camp as we've seen Gabe

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk newcomers offense and defense. Most exciting newcomers?

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Speaker 4: Exciting newcomer on offense, you couldn't name a couple of

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Speaker 4: He's entering his sixth NFL season. Even with the new

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's flip it over to the other side of

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Speaker 4: So on defense, Brownie and I were talking about this.

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Speaker 4: There are some newcomers on defense, and we thought poona

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Speaker 4: Ford was deserving of this award. And it's really hard

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Speaker 4: Pooniford has been in there a lot with the ones,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's been one of those guys that

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Speaker 2: So this is usually a player that was on the

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Speaker 4: So the tight ends have been on fire this training camp.

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Speaker 3: He was on this team last year. He played in

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Speaker 4: He's played a role in special teams as well, so

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Speaker 4: Today he caught a ball I think from Kyle Allen

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Speaker 2: Right, I would agree with that, and he hasn't really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can say this too. I mean, Quinton comes in,

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Speaker 2: A he's a former undrafted rookie on.

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Speaker 3: They're going to keep some tight ends on this roster.

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Speaker 1: If they're going to use twelve personnel, they're going to

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Speaker 2: The last award is pretty much a layup best comeback.

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Speaker 4: there with the guys every single day. He said, you know,

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Speaker 4: I wish I could go through this recovery process under

438
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Speaker 4: a rock and come out when I'm one hundred percent,

439
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Speaker 4: But I'm doing it out in front of everybody. And

440
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Speaker 4: I think that's inspiring for a lot of people just

441
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Speaker 4: to watch his comeback, just to see his comeback story

442
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Speaker 4: unfold in a lot of ways. And it's been seven

443
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Speaker 4: months since January, seven months in to this comeback, into

444
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Speaker 4: this recovery process, and I think he's from the outside

445
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 4: looking in, it's looked incredible for him, it's looked great.

446
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Speaker 4: They're taking it one day at a time. Sean McDermott

447
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 4: was asked about the plan for DeMar for that first

448
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: preseason game on Saturday, and he said, you know, everything

449
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Speaker 4: is on schedule. He would not say he's definitely gonna

450
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Speaker 4: play or no, he's not gonna play. He said, we

451
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Speaker 4: are on schedule with DeMar Hamlin, so we'll see what

452
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Speaker 4: that looks like come Saturday.

453
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Speaker 3: But he's been back out there.

454
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Speaker 4: It was I think one of my favorite moments of

455
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Speaker 4: camp was the first day of practice, hearing the roar

456
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 4: of the crowd as DeMar Hamlin ran onto the field.

457
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Speaker 4: It like brought tears to my eyes to see him

458
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Speaker 4: be out there with his teammates with full pads on.

459
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Speaker 4: But he's been getting after it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think about it, it's there's no exaggeration. He's

461
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Speaker 1: the answer to millions prayers. There was a you know,

462
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Speaker 1: twenty seven million people watching that night, and there's a

463
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Speaker 1: lot of people praying for him, and here he is

464
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Speaker 1: back on the field and looks one thousand percent.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to watch all the stages of him

466
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: coming back, you know, getting back on the practice field,

467
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: cleared for practice in the spring, and then putting pads

468
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Speaker 2: on for the first time, and then last Friday, first

469
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Speaker 2: time back in the stadium, dressed to play football in

470
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Speaker 2: the return of the Blue and Red scrimmage. Now there's

471
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Speaker 2: going to be another step on Saturday, first preseason game,

472
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 2: live contact hitting. We'll have to see how that goes.

473
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Speaker 2: Coach McDermott was kind of asked about that this morning

474
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Speaker 2: and he said, we will go as Damar wishes to go.

475
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Speaker 2: So that's not a definite that he's dressing and playing

476
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Speaker 2: on Saturday, but I would tend to think he would

477
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Speaker 2: because this is a goal of his and probably another

478
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Speaker 2: hurdle that he wants to clear, but it will be

479
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Speaker 2: something that will be very much under the microscope Saturday

480
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Speaker 2: at one pm.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's yeah. I think that's the final big

482
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Speaker 1: step for tomorrow. And I can't get in beside the

483
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Speaker 1: guy's mind, and certainly he's been reticent to share his deepest,

484
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: deepest thoughts, but I think that is a big deal

485
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: once he gets over that hurdle. I don't think it's

486
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Speaker 1: one of those things where you just step over like

487
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Speaker 1: it's not there. I think there's gonna be a lot

488
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Speaker 1: of thought on his part put into what it's going

489
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Speaker 1: to mean when he actually does get out there and

490
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Speaker 1: they blow the whistle for real. It's yeah, that's a

491
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Speaker 1: big deal. That's a big thing. I can I don't

492
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Speaker 1: know if I can get my mind around it as

493
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Speaker 1: we sit here to yeah.

494
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Speaker 2: I mean, well, it's difficult for a lot of us

495
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Speaker 2: to quantify. I mean, I'm sure there are players, you know,

496
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Speaker 2: there's dozens and hundreds of players that have come back

497
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Speaker 2: from major injuries to resume their career, and maybe they

498
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Speaker 2: can understand a very small part of what Damar is

499
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: dealing with. You know, the mental hurdle, so to speak,

500
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Speaker 2: to not think about what happened in the past and

501
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: just focus on what's in front of you. But when

502
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Speaker 2: you have a cardiac event, I think that's a little

503
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: bit different than an ACL no offense to people that

504
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 2: have had those major knee injuries. It's just it's just different.

505
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's just a little bit different. So yeah,

506
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 2: we'll all be focused on that for sure Saturday at

507
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: Hei Mark Stadium when the Bills take on the Colts

508
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: at one pm. So Maddie's training camp Awards if you missed,

509
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: some of those can be found at Buffalo Bills dot com,

510
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: so be sure to check those out if you get

511
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: an opportunity. Now that camp is over and done with,

512
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: the team will continue practicing in a preseason type setting.

513
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: They will just now be doing it at One Bill's

514
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Speaker 2: Drive going forward right up until the regular season. Speaking

515
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: of Saturday's preseason game against the Colts, to no one's surprise,

516
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: Anthony richardson fourth picking the draft by the Colts is

517
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: going to start on Saturday. For the Colts, so their

518
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: top quarterback and what they're hoping is their franchise quarterback

519
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: going forward, will get the start I know we're not

520
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: surprised by it. What do we expect, Maddie.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to see our guys go up against a

522
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: young rookie like that. We heard from Sean McDermott. He said,

523
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is not going to play. Stefan Diggs's going

524
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Speaker 4: to play, a few other guys are not going to play,

525
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: but most of the starters will see about a quarter

526
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Speaker 4: a quarter.

527
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Speaker 3: And a half ish.

528
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Speaker 4: So hey, if this is gonna be the guy that's

529
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Speaker 4: gonna be the future of the Colts, I want to

530
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 4: see what he looks like. I want to see what

531
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Speaker 4: he looks like going up against some of our starters

532
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Speaker 4: and then up against some of the guys who are

533
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: fighting for roster spots. You're gonna hopefully get some really

534
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: good live action against a guy like him who a

535
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: lot of people said coming out of the draft, this

536
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: is an athletic quarterback. This is a quarterback that makes

537
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Speaker 4: sense in today's NFL with what he can do and

538
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: drew some Josh Allen comparisons.

539
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Speaker 1: I've told Brownie this and a lot of my buddies

540
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: that we talk about all this stuff. Anthony Richardson is

541
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Speaker 1: the guy I would have picked in this draft. Big strong,

542
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: got all the tools he's got. He's a very big

543
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: upside his The detriment against him is thirteen starts. As

544
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: a correction, I'm not scared by that. If you can

545
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Speaker 1: check him out and talk to him and find out

546
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Speaker 1: how intelligent he is, what kind of leader he is,

547
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Speaker 1: what his goal is, if he wants to if he

548
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: wants to get his goal is to say, listen, I

549
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: want to be one of the best quarterbacks out there

550
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Speaker 1: when I'm playing. I got to be. I want to

551
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: be in the upper echelon all the time in the NFL.

552
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: If that's his goal, that's your guy. You know he's

553
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: going to do what it takes to get there, right.

554
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: I think that's that's and that's it. He's the guy

555
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Speaker 1: I would have picked.

556
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Speaker 2: Well. Elite physical traits, and we know how much Steve

557
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: likes elite physical traits in play.

558
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't have any.

559
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: That's not anymore he did at least at one time.

560
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Speaker 2: I don't know that me and Maddy ever had elite

561
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: physical traits. Either of us are over five in But

562
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: if you look at it, the word out of Colt's

563
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: camp has been shock, awe, amazement. I mean his teammates

564
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: are just stunned by some of the things that he

565
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: has done in training camp for Indianapolis. Josh Downs, his

566
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Speaker 2: draft class mate who was drafted by the Colts, I

567
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: think in the third round out of North Carolina. You know,

568
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: he's running with him every day in practice. He said,

569
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: it's amazing. The guy rolls to his left, which is

570
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: not his throwing arm side. He's a right handed thrower.

571
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: He flicks his wrist and it goes sixty yards. You're

572
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: gonna find somebody on Saturday in the building at high

573
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 2: Mark Stadium whose arm strength may be every bit as

574
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Speaker 2: good as Josh Allen's and Anthony Richardson. Now, I'm not

575
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: saying he's gonna be as accurate, well, but he's gonna

576
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: be able to throw it just as fast too.

577
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Speaker 1: He can out run Josh and just as effortlessly. Yeah.

578
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Speaker 2: He runs a four to four.

579
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Speaker 1: By the Yeah, and he's big. He's a big dude.

580
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: You'll see that right away. I mean he's he's not

581
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: quite as tall as Josh, but he's as thick. Yeah,

582
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Speaker 1: he's I think the guy's got a great future. I'm

583
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: I'm all in on him. I think he's he's going

584
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Speaker 1: to be a difference maker for this.

585
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Speaker 4: This is the guy's first preseason game, first taste of

586
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: live action in the NFL. I'm excited preseason games people

587
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: can say, Ah, this is gonna be more I don't

588
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 4: want to watch. I'm excited to see this.

589
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about that for a second, because what

590
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is going to see is probably pretty vanilla

591
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: stuff from the bill. Sean McDermott is not going to

592
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: be playing his hand, so to speak, in terms of

593
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: the play calls he wants to use in the regular season.

594
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: You're going to keep those close to the vest. So

595
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: the reads may be very relatively speaking easier for him

596
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: in this setting. Can he still make the throws on time,

597
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: in rhythm and that's what Colts fans are going to

598
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: be looking for from Anthony Richardson. As Maddie mentioned, no

599
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, he's not going to play in this first

600
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: preseason game. Neither is Stefan Diggs, and probably a couple

601
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: of other starters sprinkled in as well. So let's talk

602
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback spot, Kyle Allen and then Matt Barkley

603
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: behind him. There's some ground that Kyle Allen clearly has

604
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: to cover here in the preseason to convince people, Hey,

605
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: you know what, I am more than capable of handling

606
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: this number two job behind Josh. What do you need

607
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: to see from him? No one, He's gonna get about

608
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: half the game.

609
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Steve. Just just be sound, I mean, take don't take

610
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: any delay of game penalties, get every don't fumble the

611
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: ball on the center snap, look like you have an

612
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: option if they if they send some pressure nowhere to

613
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: go with the football, even if you're even if you're

614
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: not completing those passes, if you're making the right decision

615
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: trying to get it to the right guy, even if

616
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: he's covered up or if it's incomplete for whatever reason,

617
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: your decision making has to be sound. Throw the football

618
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: away to avoid a sack. Some of those stuff, some

619
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Speaker 1: of the basic things. You don't expect him to go

620
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: in there and move down the field effortlessly, never have

621
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Speaker 1: never facing a third down, you know, never, you know,

622
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: never get into trouble, never taking a sack, that kind

623
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: of thing. But you want to see him make the

624
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: right decisions and not have any like any of the

625
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: stuff I said, silly mental mistakes, delay of games and

626
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, Mattie.

627
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Speaker 2: I think the assumption is we don't know this, but

628
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: the assumption is he will be first quarterback. In knowing

629
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Josh is sitting and watching and wearing a headset and

630
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: holding a clipboard, so he will get presumably all the

631
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: time with the starting unit while he is in the game.

632
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: What does he have to do with the starters knowing

633
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: he's playing with the best players on their roster, with

634
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: the exception of Diggs and Alan, what does he have

635
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 2: to do playing with the best that his team has

636
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: to offer on the offensive side of the ball.

637
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Speaker 3: I mean, we got to make plays, Yeah, you got

638
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: you gotta make plays.

639
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: It's got to make place.

640
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: I think the communication with your offensive line needs to

641
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: be solid. We've we've seen a little bit of up

642
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: and down with that. You need to know what's going

643
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: on there and you need to have that right communication

644
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: going on with your center. Consistency out of your offense,

645
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: go down the field during a drive, don't take stupid penalties,

646
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: don't take sacks. Like you said, we did see a

647
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: little bit of athleticism out of him today. Toward the

648
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: end of practice they were in the red zone. He

649
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: was facing some pressure, so he pumped right, then he

650
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: rolled left and found I think it was was it

651
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: Joel Wilson for a touchdown? Yes, but that was a

652
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: little impressive out of him. I want to see a

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Speaker 4: little bit more of that, but with smart decision making

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Speaker 4: as well, because those two things sometimes can be opposite

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Speaker 4: any ways, but I want to see them go hand

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Speaker 4: in hand. And when you have a first team offense

657
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Speaker 4: out there, they should be lifting your play up because you're.

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Speaker 3: Playing with the best guys on offense.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: How I want to see you play like one of

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Speaker 4: the best guys on offense.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean that the offense. He has to

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Speaker 1: like be the guy like Josh is the engine of

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Speaker 1: that offense. Just manage it, get it to the right guy,

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Speaker 1: get the ball functional, yes, function as a quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: make it look like an NFL offense. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you have to you know, never take a loss or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, but it needs to look like an

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Speaker 1: NFL offense with you at the helm, and that that

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Speaker 1: comes down to perception as much as anything.

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Speaker 2: Another interesting development we saw out on the practice field

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Speaker 2: today for the better part of the last four or

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Speaker 2: five days, Second round pick Osyrus Torrance has gotten his

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Speaker 2: fair share of reps with the Ones, and then Ryan

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Speaker 2: Bates would rotate in as well. As Maddie mentioned that

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Speaker 2: right guard competition is still moving along without anyone separating themselves.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I think I can't remember

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Speaker 2: if it was coach Dorsey yesterday or Coach McDermott today

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Speaker 2: that said it's still very close. I think it was

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Speaker 2: Dorsey yesterday that said that today it's almost all baits

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Speaker 2: at right guard wire to wire, which we have not

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Speaker 2: seen in probably over a week. And then we see

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Speaker 2: Osiris Torrance on the other side of the center for

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Speaker 2: the first time in camp. I mean he has been

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Speaker 2: a right guard lock it down flipped over the other

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Speaker 2: side for a little bit today. So what do we

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Speaker 2: read into that, Steve, if anything.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of experimentation, probably giving him a chance.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because it could be spin it positive.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to find a way to get him on

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Speaker 1: the field baits or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Or it's not taking m governor off the field though.

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Speaker 1: Right spin it negative. McGovern's not playing up to speed

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Speaker 1: they need to find a way to help him, or

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Speaker 1: Osiris isn't playing very well at right guard. And they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get his other hand on the ground. See if

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Speaker 1: he can do it that way. Maybe he's a left

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Speaker 1: handed guy or right handed or you know, however that works.

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Speaker 1: There's there's ways to see it, positive and negative.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe Bates is playing much more consistent.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, but I think there's no question they're also finding

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Speaker 1: out and this is the time to do it. Find

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Speaker 1: out if in a pinch, two guys get injured when Osiris,

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Speaker 1: we need you on the left side for this series.

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Speaker 1: We got to finish out a game with you on

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Speaker 1: the least capable. Yeah, can you will you blow a gasket?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's basically what I think. That's what that means.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen Ryan Bates rep a lot at center.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's gotten quite a bit of time at center,

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Speaker 4: so you start to read into that a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Not that not that Ryan Bates isn't doing a good

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Speaker 4: job in the competition, but how you're shifting other guys

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Speaker 4: when Ryan Bates is at center, and he's been taking

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Speaker 4: reps with the center group in all different teams, first, second,

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Speaker 4: and third team at times. So that has been interesting

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Speaker 4: to see with how they've shifted the line play about

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Speaker 4: with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely cross training, and I think that's for

719
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Speaker 2: the purpose in mind as well, because Mitch Morris, as

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Speaker 2: we know, has a history of concussions. Each of the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years he's gotten dinged and he's missed

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Speaker 2: a game, and I think they want a viable answer

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Speaker 2: to plug in in the event that that happens again.

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Speaker 2: And I think they really like Baits as an option there.

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Speaker 2: And so even if we get to September and Ryan

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Speaker 2: Bates as you're starting right guard, I think if Morris

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Speaker 2: gets dinged and has to come out, Baits slides over

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Speaker 2: and Osiris would step on at guard with Bates going

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Speaker 2: to the pivot. I think that's how it would unfold

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Speaker 2: based on what we've seen so far in training camp, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think that's a little bit with with

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Speaker 1: Torrent's going over the left side. I think that spell's

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Speaker 1: probably more what it is than anything they're finding out.

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Speaker 1: What if, you know, if there's a bus.

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Speaker 4: Crash, who's how disaster plan?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's a disaster plan. Can he and then

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Speaker 1: probably you'll probably see him at times move all the

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Speaker 1: way out left tackle, right tackle, just just in case

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Speaker 1: you never know. But they got to find out and

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Speaker 1: get him acclimated, so it's not like you want me

741
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Speaker 1: do what you know kind of thing. So they'll they'll

742
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Speaker 1: get him a few rips in there so he can

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Speaker 1: at least it won't be a completely foreign concept to him.

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Speaker 2: Maddie, thanks very much for popping by over here at

745
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Speaker 2: the Delta Sonic location. We have to pull you off campus,

746
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Speaker 2: so thank you for coming and sharing your training camp

747
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Speaker 2: awards once again Buffalo Bills dot com. If you want

748
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Speaker 2: to see those from top to bottom, we'll let Maddie

749
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Speaker 2: step aside. When we come back, we're gonna play for

750
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Speaker 2: you a interview that we had on campus right before

751
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Speaker 2: the final practice this morning with head coach Sean McDermot

752
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: at some of his thoughts on the upcoming preseason opener,

753
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Speaker 2: as well as his role wearing two hats as head

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Speaker 2: coach and defensive coordinator. Coach McDermott up next here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by to a Lot of Health,

756
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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

757
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here at training camp, final day

758
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: of practice with head coach Sean McDermott and coach I

759
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Speaker 2: Know you told the media earlier today, no Josh and

760
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: no Steph among the starters, but other starters will play.

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Speaker 2: That leaves Kyle Allen and Matt Barkley. Do they just

762
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Speaker 2: chop the game in half Saturday? Pretty much?

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Speaker 5: That's what we'll do approximately, Chris, and take a good

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Speaker 5: look at both of those guys and give them their due.

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Speaker 1: And they've been working hard out here, so you've got

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Speaker 1: position battles. Is it unrealistic to think somebody's going to

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Speaker 1: separate themselves at this point a training camp when you

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Speaker 1: haven't even played a game.

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Speaker 5: Maybe so, and it's a small sample, it's one game,

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Speaker 5: but you know, at some point, you know the countdown

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Speaker 5: is on. So we've got to make a decision here

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Speaker 5: at some point with different positions and try and get

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Speaker 5: a good feel here.

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Speaker 2: I know you probably used the Blue and Red scrimmage

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Speaker 2: last week as a little bit of an exercise for this,

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Speaker 2: but in this preseason game, the two hats you have

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Speaker 2: to wear and switching off and divvying and delegating. How

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Speaker 2: much of a run through will that be for you

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Speaker 2: on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 5: We've talked as a staff and it'll be my first time,

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Speaker 5: our first time going through it and kind of where

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Speaker 5: I expect myself to be and the communication that they

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Speaker 5: can expect from me with the within the game, and

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Speaker 5: so I'm sure we'll learn a lot from it, and

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago. I know this. How early

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Speaker 1: do you start thinking about roster makeup numbers and stuff.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about maybe keeping as many as ten

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen five ends five tackles. If you can do that,

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Speaker 1: maybe you go lighter at linebacker because you only played

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Speaker 1: two in your base defense. And then maybe you got

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Speaker 1: room for an extra couple of receivers if they play

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Speaker 1: teams because your line you know, you got Meticvich, Climb, Dodson,

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Speaker 1: who are core guys, but Dodson's not in that group.

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Speaker 1: If he becomes the guy, you know, right, is it

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Speaker 1: too early to start thinking about that?

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Speaker 5: No, I think you know, Brandon and I really started.

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Speaker 5: We're always looking at that, right in particular Brandon, and

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Speaker 5: then we get together from time to time and we'll

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Speaker 5: do that either before this game or after this game

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Speaker 5: and say, hey, if the roster cutdown was now, what

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Speaker 5: would it look like and who'd be on the inside

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Speaker 5: and who'd be on the outside. And because those are

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Speaker 5: the guys that you know that we need to really

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Speaker 5: be watching in terms of those battles.

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Speaker 2: Coach, we know your time is tight, so we're gonna

808
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Speaker 2: let you cut you loose here and let you get

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Speaker 2: back to work. That's head coach Sean McDermott. Here a

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Speaker 2: training camp at Saint John Fisher will take a break.

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Speaker 2: The title sponsor of training camp, Greg Connors from Connors

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Speaker 2: and Ferris joins us. Next stay tune here at Bill's

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Speaker 2: Training Camp from Connors and Ferris. It is Greg Connors

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Speaker 2: joining us here on the show. How many years is

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Speaker 2: this that you guys have been the title sponsor of

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Speaker 2: Bill's training Camp? I think it's ten now, Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 2: because see I was testing you because twenty fourteen the

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Speaker 2: first year that Counters and Ferris was the title sponsor

819
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Speaker 2: here at Bills training camp. And this really is kind

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Speaker 2: of a symbiotic relationship that just makes way too much sense.

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Speaker 2: You know, back in the day the Bills were trying

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Speaker 2: to regionalize their franchise by coming here with training camp.

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Speaker 2: You are a regional law firm.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it's been a great partnership and the Bills

825
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 6: have been tremendous, starting with the Wilson family and now

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Speaker 6: with the Pagulas, they've been they've been really great community

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Speaker 6: partners and that's kind of what our interest is. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and having this in Rochester, the energy it brings into

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Speaker 6: the Roster community and it makes Rochester relevant, you know what,

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Speaker 6: kind of like the little little brother, the little sister

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Speaker 6: city next to the buffer in these major things and it

832
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Speaker 6: comes here for a couple of weeks. It makes us

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Speaker 6: relevant and it's a ton of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And not only that, I mean with offices in

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Rochester, Syracuse, you see fans here from Buffalo Rochester, Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, this is our sweet spot.

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Speaker 6: This really is I mean, this is the central location

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Speaker 6: for us and with back in the day and you know,

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Speaker 6: ten years ago, that's what the Bills are trying to

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Speaker 6: do with their fan base, and it really was a

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Speaker 6: great synergy for us. You know, I'm an I'm an

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Speaker 6: old school football guy back from the Horn now days,

843
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: played at Alfred University, So I'm a Western New York

844
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Speaker 6: kid through and through with football, and it really was

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Speaker 6: just a great fit for us, both both professionally and personally.

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Speaker 2: And then through the course of Camp. I understand you

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Speaker 2: guys have been hosting a lot of community groups, you know,

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Speaker 2: your community law firm, as you said, but maybe just

849
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Speaker 2: kind of run through how you've pulled some some groups

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Speaker 2: in here to take in training camp themselves, you know

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Speaker 2: that otherwise may not be here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And having this in Rochester really allows the Roster

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Speaker 6: community and the Finger Lakes to kind of get the

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Speaker 6: exposure to to the best athletes in the world. And

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Speaker 6: we've been able to partner with Camp Good Days, with

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Speaker 6: big Brothers, big sisters, and those are the different communities

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Speaker 6: that don't always get the opportunity to have this type

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Speaker 6: of experience, and there's nothing better than sharing it with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I mean I see them hanging over the

860
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Speaker 2: rail here every day trying to just reach out and

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Speaker 2: like touch a player, see them up close and personal,

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Speaker 2: realize how stinking Yeah, and it's just kind of cool

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Speaker 2: to see the kids' faces.

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Speaker 6: You know, and they're the I mean, I'm feeling it

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Speaker 6: and they're expressing it. Yeah, and it's you know, they're

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Speaker 6: the fountain of youth for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool story that I just saw last week that

868
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Speaker 2: you played a big part in the Metastatic Mafia, the

869
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: four Bills fans, four female Bills fans, unfortunately going through

870
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: stage four breast cancer. But their bond is the Bills

871
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: and you kind of made that happen for them here

872
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: at camp.

873
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

874
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 6: A local reporter here who I know, Jennifer Luky, mentioned

875
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 6: to me that they were some women here that were

876
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 6: the Metastatic Mafia that were you know, in general mission

877
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 6: and just wanted to get a different experience and just

878
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 6: ask if there was anything I could do in terms

879
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 6: of like getting them camp gear. We have hats and

880
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 6: t shirts that ride, and I said, yeah, let me

881
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 6: see what I can do. And this is the thing

882
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 6: that's really great about the Buffalo Bills and then Pagoula

883
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 6: family is that we went to the team here and said,

884
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 6: gave them the situation, and so we were able to

885
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 6: help them get a little front row seat in an

886
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 6: area they have designated for us, and they got to

887
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 6: meet Josh and you know, it's it's those types of

888
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 6: experiences that mean so much to so many different people

889
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 6: that will you know, they shared me it's gonna be

890
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: with them till they die, and this was one of

891
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 6: the highlights of their year because it's been a rough

892
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 6: year for them and being able just to be a

893
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 6: small part of it.

894
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: You know, I think of it as anybody that.

895
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: Had the opportunity like I had would have done the

896
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 6: exact same thing.

897
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: Those women were.

898
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 6: They were so happy, they were so joyfully, had such

899
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 6: great energy, and I'm just grateful that I had the

900
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 6: opportunity to connect them.

901
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: All. Right, So everybody is always asking Steve and I

902
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: these questions. I'm gonna flip it and ask you. So

903
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: we saw last season kind of ended with a thud,

904
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: and I think some of the Demorrow Hamlet situation was

905
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: kind of playing a role in that, because the emotional

906
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: gas tank looked like it was on empty for a

907
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: lot of the players in that divisional playoff last year. Yeah,

908
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: now you reset the deck. You've probably made the roster

909
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: deeper and stronger. What is what is your outlook? I mean,

910
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: you've taken in a healthy number of practices, So what

911
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: is kind of your outlook based on what you've seen

912
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: out here?

913
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 6: You know, I really I think the biggest improvement that

914
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 6: the Bills and Brandon and the team have done on

915
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 6: the offseason is depth. I think I think in the

916
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 6: skill positions on offense. I think they've had a tremendous depth.

917
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 6: I love seeing Latavius Murray here. I love seeing Harris

918
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 6: here Central Yeah, Syracuse guy. And you know, and you've

919
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 6: got Cook doing his thing, you got Hardy coming in,

920
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 6: You've got Sheerfield. I think the depth that they have

921
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 6: in the skill positions helping Josh is tremendous.

922
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: And I think last year with the defense, we got

923
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: so banged.

924
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 6: Up, there was so much there were so many younger

925
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 6: players getting really great experience. They're back now, and I

926
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 6: think that depth that we that they have on the

927
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 6: defensive line and through the secondary is going to help

928
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: them a lot. You know, the big question for me,

929
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 6: and I'm sure for you and Steve you talk about

930
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 6: is the Mike linebacker.

931
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: How is that going to play out?

932
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 6: But I think the way these guys are playing, the

933
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 6: way that Sean has the defense designed, and the way

934
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: he's gonna play it is that's going.

935
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: To hit their strengths.

936
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 6: And I don't think we're really going to see much

937
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 6: of a much of a difference once we get in

938
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: and they get their flow. When they get into that

939
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 6: first game on on Monday night down in New York City.

940
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: There are and that's one of the big games on

941
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: the schedule. There's a lot of big games. You're playing

942
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: the NFC East, You're playing the AFC West. Is there

943
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: is there a favorite game that you are particularly looking

944
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: forward to on this year's schedule that like if it

945
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: if it's a home game, like you're not missing it?

946
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean I'm not missing any home games.

947
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that is for sure.

948
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 6: You know for me, when I when I look at

949
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 6: the schedule, you know, you set you set the Jets

950
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 6: up in New York Game one. That's a big game,

951
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 6: but that to me is not the game that's going

952
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: to define the season, you know. And then you have

953
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 6: the Dolphins the last week of the year down in Miami.

954
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: That game is not I don't think he's going to

955
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 6: define this, Okay. I think it's that middle run. It's

956
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 6: that it's those games between it's from the Giants game

957
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 6: or after the Giants game through the end of November,

958
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 6: where the Bills are going to be able, depending on

959
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 6: how if they can stay healthy, will position themselves for

960
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 6: that run through December. Losing von last year in December

961
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 6: that was painful. That to me was truly the difference

962
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 6: maker between the run at the end of the season

963
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 6: and what happened getting him healthy, having him healthy for

964
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 6: that last quarter of the season, I think it's gonna

965
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 6: make the biggest difference.

966
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: And we got Floyd.

967
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 6: I mean, what better way to pick up You got

968
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 6: the most depth again, right, more depth, you got, the speed,

969
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 6: you got the experience.

970
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean we got Rousseau, we we.

971
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 6: Got Epanessa and Basher. But having that depth, having that experience,

972
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 6: I think it sets up well. We make it through

973
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 6: the middle of that season, we get ready for that

974
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 6: last quarter run and I think we can make magic happen.

975
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,800
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976
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977
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,799
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978
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,200
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979
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,920
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980
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live. Will take a break, be

981
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: back with more an hour. Number two here on One

982
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983
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984
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985
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986
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker coming to you. Live just around the corner

987
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: from Bill's training camp at the Telta signing at twenty

988
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: nine to seventy West Henrietta Road. Stop by and see

989
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: us if you want. We're here until three this afternoon.

990
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: This is huge.

991
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: Oh it's I mean, I don't know people watching on

992
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: MSG can see behind us. But the full detail shop

993
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: is just rolling cars through by the dozens.

994
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: We have random fans that walk in and walk that's right.

995
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: We got Billy Buffalo here to say hi to fans.

996
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: So if you want to stop by, especially if you're

997
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: one of those Bills fans that came in from Buffalo

998
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: this morning and you got to hit the Thruway and

999
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: head back home, stop by Delta Sonic here, pop a

1000
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: couple of drinks in your cup holders. All right, run

1001
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: the car through the wash if it got a little

1002
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: spotted from the rain this morning, and you're good to

1003
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: go on the way home. Or if you're locally around

1004
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: here in the Rochester airing and you just want to

1005
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: stop by, say hi to a seven time pro bowler

1006
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 2: and Hall of Famer.

1007
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: You can do that too.

1008
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: That's the guy in my left by the way, in

1009
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: case you didn't know, but Billy Buffalo out front saying

1010
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: hi to some people. They got to spin the wheel

1011
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: out in front, so you can win some prizes. So

1012
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: stop by, check it out. We're just having fun out

1013
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: here until about three this afternoon. Got another hour to

1014
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 2: do that. We do have to go around the NFL

1015
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: steeve since we did not get an opportunity to do

1016
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: that in the first hour.

1017
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: We'll start with the Bills stuff.

1018
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: And as you heard coach McDermott say last hour when

1019
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: he was sitting with us earlier this morning, with Josh

1020
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Allen not playing Stefan Diggs not playing in Saturday's preseason opener,

1021
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: that leaves him with two quarterbacks, and he confirmed that

1022
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: those two players are going to basically split the game

1023
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: in half. We're assuming we don't know this. We're assuming

1024
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: Kyle Allen will be first on the field since he

1025
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: has been, in large measure the first guy to come

1026
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: in after Josh rotates out in the practice setting. So

1027
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: we anticipate that happening, which means Kyle Allen will go

1028
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: with some starters and then we'll have to see who's available.

1029
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: In terms of some of the other players who have

1030
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: been nicked and missed the last couple of days. Does

1031
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: Cam Lewis come back from the groin injury and play.

1032
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: Does Damian Harris come back from knee soreness that's kept

1033
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: him out the last two days in play? So I

1034
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: think this time of year, especially with veteran players like that,

1035
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: air on the side of caution. Sit this week. We'll

1036
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: assess you for next week and go from there.

1037
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Be interesting which of the you know, the top defensive

1038
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: starters will sit down, how much they'll play? If they do.

1039
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: I doubt that any were in hide, I would say, no,

1040
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna play. He didn't say that.

1041
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: No, but there's guy said there would be a couple

1042
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: of others that he didn't name, but those would be

1043
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: two good candidates.

1044
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Through two guys in their early thirties who are all

1045
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: pro and the glue your defense don't need to be

1046
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: going out there and playing against the Indianapolis Colts. Even

1047
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: if it is Anthony Richardson. What happens if he scrambles

1048
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: and you got to come up and bear up on

1049
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: a two hundred and forty pounds. Yeah, no, I just

1050
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: you guys sit down. The rest of you take your shots.

1051
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: There is gonna be a list. We don't know what

1052
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: it'll be, and it'll be arbitrary to some extent because

1053
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: some guys will just be not physically ready to go.

1054
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: Like Ed Oliver, he's not probably.

1055
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: Not gonna Well he came back into practice today, so

1056
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: maybe he's got a chance. Maybe he's got a chance.

1057
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: But even so, you know what's he played a series

1058
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: even if that. So it's really gonna be interesting to

1059
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: see who plays in which of the recognizable names that

1060
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: are gonna go. You've got enough bodies at every position

1061
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: to field a team with guys who we have not

1062
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: seen play yet, let alone guys who started games in

1063
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: the past.

1064
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: Just so everybody can calm down a little bit, there

1065
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: was a play in practice that got people a little concerned.

1066
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs makes a catch, gets knocked out of bounds

1067
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: along the sideline, is down for about a minute and

1068
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: he was holding his you know, lower left back for

1069
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: a while. The trainers came over checked him out. He

1070
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: popped up and after practice he said, I'm great, So

1071
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: no worse for the wear there, I know there were

1072
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: some people on social media freaking out based on some

1073
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: of the reporters that were tweeting stuff out as it

1074
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: was happening. He's fine, so no need to worry about that.

1075
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: I had people from home like texting me, okay, doesn't

1076
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: like it was like defcon figh Listen.

1077
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: It was in one of those plays. He didn't even

1078
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: get thrown the football. He came across. He was on

1079
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: a route and the play was somewhere else, and it

1080
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: looked to me like because when he came off the

1081
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: field he was lit. He couldn't put weight on one

1082
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: leg or he's limping whatever, and I thought he popped

1083
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: a calf muscle or something. And by the time he

1084
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: got to the sidelines he went down, he was on

1085
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: all fours and stuff. And then I heard later it

1086
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: wasn't as it wasn't. He wasn't limping because of his leg.

1087
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: He was limping because of his back. And but as

1088
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: he got up it is one of those things he's

1089
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you walked he walked it. Yeah,

1090
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: he walked it off, and then he was He didn't

1091
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: take any more reps at practice, but that's because he's

1092
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: Steph Biggs and you know he didn't really need to.

1093
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no worse for wear for him. That's the

1094
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: good news. Let's go around the NFL though, brought to

1095
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: you by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the

1096
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills and Steve. Yesterday, we spend time talking about

1097
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: the Swiss cheese that is the Dolphins offensive line in

1098
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: joint practices with the Atlanta Falcons. I saw some footage.

1099
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 2: It's a virtual jail.

1100
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: Break down there. It's not pretty.

1101
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: And if I'm Tua, I'm wearing three helmets if possible, uh,

1102
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: one on each of my shoulders and then another on

1103
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: my head because if that's how their pass pro is

1104
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: going to look, I don't care how quick he gets

1105
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: it out of his and he's going to be under

1106
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: duress a lot of the time. That's number one. We

1107
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: talked about that yesterday. Today, the Jets offensive line is

1108
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: coming under fire, and Robert Sala was probably about as

1109
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: frank as you would expect a coach to be without

1110
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: being negative. Basically what he said was in reference to

1111
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: his offensive line, we have time, but you want it

1112
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: fixed yesterday, which means or at least gives indication, it's

1113
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: not fixed right now. And it could very well be broken.

1114
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: They've got some problems up front. The Jets.

1115
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: They have a thirty nine year old guy that's gonna

1116
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: start at left tackle. Yeah, I mean no offense to

1117
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: Dwayne Brown. He's had a great career, yeah, but his

1118
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: best years are behind him.

1119
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: That's right. Both the Jets and the Dolphins who have

1120
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: made this made a lot of noise in this offseason.

1121
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: The Dolphins who just who have now started to talk

1122
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: about even another guy, this a chain running back that

1123
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: they drive a chain. Now they got another guy that's

1124
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: incredibly fast. So they've got a real track team down there.

1125
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they may not be able to

1126
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: get that rocket ship to the launch pad if they

1127
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: don't have their offensive line put together right. And it

1128
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: doesn't look like it is. So the Jets and the

1129
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: Dolphins are going through a phase in training camp where

1130
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: it all looks to become very precarious if they can't

1131
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: get their offensive line goes straightened out. I don't know

1132
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: that it'll carry over into the regular season. Teams have

1133
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: a way of finding a way to overcome a little

1134
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: bit of that and just you know, adapting their play calls,

1135
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: using their personnel deploying their personnel a little differently to

1136
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: make up for an offensive line that struggles in pass pro.

1137
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they run it a little more, maybe they're a

1138
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: little better run on the football. Who knows, but they're

1139
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: going to try all of that. If they don't get

1140
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: it fixed right away, you'd have a hard time thinking

1141
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: that its scheme, particularly in the Jets, and well at

1142
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: any of these teams. They've got it schemed up, so

1143
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: they have answers for whatever front and blitz package that

1144
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: are sent at them. And if they just can't execute it,

1145
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: if they aren't either A making mental mistakes, stepping the

1146
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: wrong way, or B just aren't good enough, which I

1147
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: think is probably more A than it is B, they

1148
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: can get that ironed out.

1149
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Jets, meanwhile, are in joint practices with the

1150
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. Their joint practice today was canceled because of

1151
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: thunderstorms in the area down there in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

1152
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: And you and I haven't been down there in twenty

1153
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: nineteen when it was one ten on the field, I

1154
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: can understand how thunderstorms would pop up in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

1155
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: So they practiced on their own, but they have. The

1156
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: offensive line for the Jets has not looked good in

1157
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: practices against the Carolina Panthers defensive line. Now, keep in

1158
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: mind Steve, the aforementioned Dwayne Brown, who's thirty nine years old.

1159
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: He's still on pup. He hasn't even stepped on the

1160
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: practice yet.

1161
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: They're now left tackle is Billy Turner.

1162
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: Right, who has been a guard by trade from most

1163
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: of his career. And then on the other side, where

1164
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: they were hoping Mackay Beckton, their former first round pick

1165
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: could be the eventual starter at right tackle. He comes

1166
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: out after seven snaps in the Hall of Fame game

1167
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: last week because his knee doesn't feel right. And then

1168
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: you've got Max Mitchell, who was a fourth round pick

1169
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: last year. He missed the second half of the season

1170
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: due to injury.

1171
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Makai Beckton is listed on their depth chart as so

1172
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: backup left tackle to Billy Turner right now right.

1173
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: So what you have now is a situation where the

1174
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: media is already making suggestions to Robert Salad I love

1175
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: the New York media. They're already telling him maybe you

1176
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: should put Elijah Vera Tucker out of tackle, and Salas said, look,

1177
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna play our best five, but we'd like to

1178
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: keep Vera Tucker on the inside at the guard position.

1179
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 2: But they've got some fixing to do. Now. Contrast that

1180
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: with the Bills offensive line, which was you know, their

1181
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: play wasn't great in last week's Blue and Red scrimmage.

1182
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: They had trouble resetting the line of scrimmage, they had

1183
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: rouble against Buffalo's D line at short yardage, et cetera,

1184
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: et cetera. But just talking to some people, they are

1185
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: very encouraged coming out of training camp about how the

1186
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: line is starting to gel and fit together. And this

1187
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: is before they've gotten on the field for a preseason game.

1188
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: And I get the feeling, Steve that compared to where

1189
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: this offensive line was last year, no Spencer Brown in

1190
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: training camp coming off of back surgery, didn't get a

1191
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: snap in training camp or a preseason. Then you had

1192
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 2: Roger Saffold, who in his fourteenth season was a little

1193
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 2: bit further past his prime than the coaches had anticipated,

1194
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: and they had to fix that with band aids all

1195
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: year at the left guard spot. And then you had

1196
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: basically Dion Mitch Morse and then Ryan Bates trying to

1197
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: hold it together with duct tape The situation is far

1198
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: better now, not only in terms of who you're starting

1199
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: five will be right guard to still be determined, but

1200
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: you have depth behind them now. We were just talking

1201
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: to one of the people here watching the show here

1202
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: at the Delta Sonic location about David Edwards. They're like, hey,

1203
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 2: what about David Edwards? Is he gonna get a crack?

1204
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: They got that guy's a three year starter who played

1205
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: on a Super Bowl team for the Rams, and he's

1206
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: a backup right now. He can't even get on the

1207
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: starting unit. I think the depth across the board up

1208
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: front is notably better and puts them in a very

1209
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: good position going forward because you have your five. Somebody

1210
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: goes down, there isn't gonna be much of a drop

1211
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: off because you don't just you're not just plugging guys in.

1212
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: You're plugging proven NFL starters into your lineup. Should somebody

1213
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: go down with.

1214
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: Injury, Yeah, and you've still got to go back and look,

1215
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: they've got a Brandon Shell who is taking rips at

1216
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: right tackle of Ryan Vandermark.

1217
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: Brandon Shell has seventy two starts in this league.

1218
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: Dave Kessenberry who has got a lot of and he

1219
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, obviously he's brought in for depth. He's a

1220
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: guy who's long in the tooth, but you know, has

1221
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: the size and the athleticism still there to help him out.

1222
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: And then the guy you and I both like and

1223
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: have liked for a while, Alec Anderson, Alec Anderson or

1224
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: boy Alec Anderson. He's still hanging in there, and he's

1225
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 1: you know.

1226
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: He's got some position versatility as well, center, guard, tackle. Right,

1227
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: So they're like Ryan Bates type, just a little bigger.

1228
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: That's right. They've got they've got a lot of choices

1229
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: and a little bit of the I think the reason

1230
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: they got off to maybe a slow starter or haven't

1231
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: gone as far as fast as the D line seems

1232
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: to have gone, it is because they It's different for

1233
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: offensive lineman obviously, because they got five guys they got

1234
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: to worry about, and the same five guys could be

1235
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: playing five new positions on from snap to snap. You

1236
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: could switch both guards, you could put a center at tackle,

1237
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: move attack, you know what I mean.

1238
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: And their play is much more coordinating, right.

1239
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: There, plays much more coordinated. And there's a lot of

1240
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: guys on that right there. Thirteen I'll see there's seventeen

1241
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and you got five spots, so you gotta

1242
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: rotate five guys five at a time. Then you got

1243
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: us mix those five guys with the other five guys

1244
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: and play those guys five at a time. It's an

1245
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: incredible math problem, and you can lay it out in

1246
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: a spreadsheet if you want, But it takes a while

1247
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: to sort through all the combinations. Every guy's looked at,

1248
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: both individually and collectively with different groups of guys. That

1249
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: takes a lot of time, a lot of snaps, and

1250
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: a lot of scrutiny, and a lot of knowing the

1251
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: context of every snap that you're giving the guy. So

1252
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: it takes a long time to sort through all of

1253
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: those variables, and which is why a lot of times

1254
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: offensive lines don't look good. And the Jets and Dolphins included,

1255
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: they maybe going through the same kind of thing we're

1256
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: talking about now. But when people start to notice, particularly

1257
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: now a couple of weeks into camp, that you're not

1258
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: getting better, you're getting worse, Yeah, then you might want

1259
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: to address it. It's not and I don't want to

1260
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: poop poo all these offensive line talks because there is

1261
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: real problems in some places. But I think it's a

1262
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: little early to assess where they could be for the

1263
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: regular season.

1264
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: There is some interesting news coming out of the Ravens camp.

1265
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: They had Jadavian Clowney in the veteran pass rusher. He's

1266
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: a free agent and they apparently have presented an offer

1267
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: to him. No word on whether he likes the offer,

1268
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: hasn't reportedly intent isn't intent on signing right away, it seems. Meanwhile,

1269
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: after a workout, the Patriots have signed former Bills linebacker

1270
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: Joe Giles Harris, who was on the practice squad the

1271
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: last couple of years. Veteran player who would get called

1272
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: up in the event of injury, although I don't think

1273
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: he played more than a game or two.

1274
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: For the Bills.

1275
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt is still hunting for a contract. Visited Indianapolis,

1276
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought he might sign there. He

1277
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: left without a contract. Actually visited with the Saints earlier

1278
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: this week, didn't sign with them either, So I don't

1279
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: know what he's looking for, but apparently he's being offered

1280
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: peanuts as he sees it, because he hadn't signed with anybody.

1281
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: And what are we three weeks out from the opener?

1282
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: A month out from the opener? Yeah, it's yeah, and

1283
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: that's how long are you waiting? Like? You know what

1284
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 2: I mean?

1285
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: Interesting?

1286
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kareem Hunt.

1287
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what Kareem Hunt's been told, either numbers wise,

1288
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: or what the situation is, or what they're willing to

1289
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,959
Speaker 1: do for him, or how long they're willing to wait

1290
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: on him, So that may be it. He just might

1291
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: want to say, listen, I'm gonna work out on my own,

1292
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: stay in shape. I don't want to come in here

1293
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: and practice, go through training camp and all that. I'm

1294
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna wait till the last two weeks and I'll come

1295
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: in and I'll start to learn the offense and be

1296
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: ready to go. That's about what it would take for

1297
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: a running back to get acclimated to where he could

1298
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: go in and take a few snaps every game and then,

1299
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, have his depth of knowledge grow over the weeks.

1300
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: Two weeks is plenty of time to get ready to

1301
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: play in an NFL game for a running back.

1302
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: Okay, then there's Tyreek Hill talking big about how he

1303
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: thinks his person stats will look at the end of

1304
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: the season down there in Miami. As we know, seventeen

1305
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: hundred ten yards receiving last year for the Dolphins, and

1306
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: that's with two of miss and what seven six seven

1307
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: games last year, still had seventeen hundred ten yards receiving.

1308
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: It was a big year. He backed it up after

1309
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: getting traded and signing for thirty million a season. But

1310
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: now he says, if I can stay healthy and keep

1311
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: my attention on detail, I'll be able to make those

1312
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: plays to get where I want to be, which is

1313
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: two thousand yards.

1314
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: Now.

1315
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: I know there are seventeen games in the season now,

1316
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: so he got an extra game for production. But two thousand, Steve,

1317
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: that is a fat number. I mean, justin Jefferson had

1318
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: an all world season last year and he only got

1319
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: to eighteen hundred and change two thousand.

1320
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: That is a big number, a little too big, I think.

1321
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: Right it's hard to hardest string years together. And if

1322
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: Tyreek is a special athlete, no question about it, that's

1323
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: a bit and I applaud him for putting that number

1324
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: way out there, because that's what you gotta do. You

1325
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: got to put it almost beyond comprehension so that you

1326
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: if you get close to it, you still have a

1327
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: great year. Kudos to him for doing that. I think

1328
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver you can do that you can

1329
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: say you could happen, but I don't see. I just

1330
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: see too many things happening to go right to predict that.

1331
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: And certainly it's possible because he got closed last year,

1332
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson got closed last year. If Jalen Waddle now

1333
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: that he's nicked a little bit, and you can kind

1334
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: of see where either it goes worse for Tyreek because

1335
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: of that, or maybe better, maybe gets more targets. If

1336
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle isn't hurt or in and out of the lineup.

1337
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: I would have a hard time thinking that Tyreek isn't

1338
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: going to get doubled and taken more away if Jalen

1339
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: Waddle isn't there. But it's just a fat number and

1340
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: plus to back up a great season that he had

1341
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 1: last year with an even greater season this year. It's

1342
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: hard to do in the NFL. It's hard to do.

1343
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: And they had a couple of quirky games in my opinion.

1344
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: You know the Baltimore game early on in the season

1345
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: where they were down and then all of a sudden

1346
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: they just start slinging it and you know, he had

1347
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: a ton long catches to come back in that game

1348
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: with their defense playing the way it has played or

1349
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: the way we expect the Dolphin defense to be with

1350
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: Vic Vangio, maybe they don't have to score thirty eight

1351
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: points to come back and win games. You know, there's

1352
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: just too many variables that will affect how many targets

1353
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: and how big a plays they need out of Tyreek

1354
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: and the offensive line too, by the way, well yeah,

1355
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: if that doesn't get ironed out.

1356
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: To it won't be able to hold the ball long

1357
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: enough to throw a deepen.

1358
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 1: It'll be hard for Tyreek to get two thousand yards

1359
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: receiving when he's got to play left tackle, you know.

1360
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: Final note for around the NFL. He's in football tonight.

1361
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: There are two games on the schedule Texans at Patriots

1362
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: where Mac Jones is under the microscope. Does he get

1363
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,959
Speaker 2: pushed by Bailey Zappi to the point where his job

1364
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: could be in jeopardy? That's what people up in New

1365
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: England are saying. I'm wondering is he even gonna dress

1366
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: tonight in play? I would think he would, right, don't

1367
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 2: you want to get him run? With Bill O'Brien calling

1368
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: the place?

1369
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing, right, it's a tough spot to call,

1370
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: even for the Patriots. If he needs those reps, if

1371
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: you put him out there and play them and play

1372
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: and play and play him, not only do you risk

1373
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: his injury, but two you kind of tell everybody the

1374
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: dude needs reps, he's got approve or you're telling him

1375
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: he got to prove it to us. We don't trust him.

1376
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: So if you don't play him, it says, Okay, he's

1377
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: our guy. We're protecting him. And I don't think they

1378
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 1: want to do that. And if you play him, it's

1379
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: a risk. I think the amount of playtime the mac

1380
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: Jones it's is gonna say a lot about where they're

1381
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: at in their quarterback room.

1382
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: I think they could hide behind the well. He and

1383
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien need to get on the same page in

1384
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: a game setting. I think that's the way you justify

1385
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: him playing, don't you.

1386
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't buy it, all right, it's too big a risk.

1387
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: The guy can't move it. People will be teeing off

1388
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 1: on that guy you got. You're gonna have guys, even

1389
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: whether they're whether.

1390
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: Whether there's no second coming, of.

1391
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: Whether there are no talent bums or not, they're gonna

1392
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: be the guy who sacks the opposing quarterback in the

1393
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: pre I'm gonna make my name in this game, and

1394
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it against the first team offense of

1395
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Watch me. You're gonna have guys with that

1396
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: kind of attitude out there. And Max got a target

1397
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: on him and he's slow moving target.

1398
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: Right, he is not fleet to foot. We know that,

1399
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: all right. Well that's one game. The other game vikings

1400
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: at Seahawks, which is kind of an interesting NFC matchup. Yeah,

1401
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of that one. That

1402
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 2: one doesn't kick off until ten because it's out on

1403
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: the West Coast. The Texans Patriots game kicks off at

1404
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: seven eight games on Friday, two for six, sorry, six

1405
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: games on Friday before the Bills play on Saturday. Jets

1406
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: are playing the Panthers on Saturday as well. Miami plays

1407
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: let's see here, Friday against the Falcons. So the whole

1408
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: division will be done by Saturday. Patriots tonight, Dolphins tomorrow,

1409
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: Jets and Bills Saturday. On the preseason schedule.

1410
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: Titans Chicago or playing the exact same time the Bills do. Yes, Yeah,

1411
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: good stuff.

1412
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: Addressing the media after practice today was the guy who

1413
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: we anticipate will start the preseason game on Saturday against

1414
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: the Colts at quarterback. It is one Kyle Allen who

1415
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: addressed the media after practice today. Here is the Bill's

1416
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: number two QB totuss compared to Baby some of the

1417
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: other ones you've done too, It's cool.

1418
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 8: I love like when I was in Carolina, we would

1419
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 8: go out to college too and stay in the dorms,

1420
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 8: and so it was cool being.

1421
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 7: Able to do that.

1422
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 8: I haven't done that in the last three years. I

1423
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 8: really liked that environment. I like coming here and just

1424
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 8: having everything here and from whenever you wake up to

1425
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 8: at night, you're just with.

1426
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 7: The team, with the boys, and it's been great. This

1427
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 7: camp's been awesome. It's one of my favorite ones.

1428
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: How do you think you've performed with training camp?

1429
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 7: That was good. I thought this was a big training

1430
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 7: camp for me.

1431
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 8: I need reps in this offense, so I thought I

1432
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 8: got a ton of reps, installed a ton of stuff

1433
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 8: over the last fifteen days. And I think it was

1434
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 8: big for me just to work through things and figure

1435
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 8: out how I fit in this offense and how things

1436
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 8: will work for me.

1437
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 7: And I think it was great.

1438
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 2: How much of it is the learning versus just physically

1439
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: doing things? How much of it is.

1440
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 7: Oh, it's mostly mental. It's almost all mental.

1441
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 8: I think, just from a quarterback perspective, coming into a

1442
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 8: new offense, especially one as dense as this, it's the

1443
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 8: learning curve is big, and you've got to go out

1444
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 8: on the field and work through those plays and different

1445
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 8: coverages and different looks, and so you have a plan

1446
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 8: for everything that can be thrown at you.

1447
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 7: So that's the reps were huge for me.

1448
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: Said that Josh is not going to play Saturday, obviously

1449
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: that leads you're mad playing time. What do you look

1450
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 2: to get out in preseason games?

1451
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 8: I just like whenever we're in preseason, I just want

1452
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 8: to execute, you know, whatever the play is called, execute,

1453
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 8: stay in the field, play clean football. You know, obviously

1454
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 8: we want to score, we want to win the game,

1455
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 8: but just from a from an offensive perspective, I think

1456
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 8: as a whole, as a unit, we just want to

1457
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 8: play clean. And we want to ask you, what's that

1458
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 8: been like having playing with Jobs again and kind of

1459
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 8: having him to lead on as you learn the suple offense.

1460
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 7: Well, I've actually I've never played with Josh.

1461
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 8: This is my first year playing with him, but it's

1462
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 8: been great to have a guy that's been the year

1463
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 8: or in the system for six years, who knows it

1464
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 8: probably better than most of the coaches here. And then

1465
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 8: just to be able to ask him questions and how

1466
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 8: he sees things, especially the guy at Stantonmind Center. You know,

1467
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 8: it's different when you're staying there and as oppose to the sidelines,

1468
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 8: so he sees things differently on a lot of plays.

1469
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 8: And we get to talk through him and then I

1470
01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 8: go go out and try him on the field.

1471
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 7: So it's been great.

1472
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 5: Take Does it take a while because you have all

1473
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 5: the receivers, you know, you backtally new weapons, does to

1474
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 5: take a while to learn their nuances and what they'd

1475
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 5: like to do?

1476
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: And how long is that take?

1477
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: The pretty much have it down now, it's just through

1478
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: OTAs in camp.

1479
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think at this point you're kind of solidifying it.

1480
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 8: But it does take a while.

1481
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1482
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 7: It's the same thing with the system as it is

1483
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 7: with the players.

1484
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 8: Like everyone's got to figure out how they fit in

1485
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 8: the system and how they can be successful in it,

1486
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 8: just like any offense. And so just need reps and

1487
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 8: reps and reps and reps. And that's why OTA's and

1488
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 8: training keeps really important for guys like us.

1489
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 7: You've let you justin Shorter's way a lot throughout camp,

1490
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 7: but if you.

1491
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 6: Noticed from him and just how he's picking up Pay's

1492
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 6: rookie year.

1493
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a big physical player.

1494
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 8: I think once he you know, got comfortable in the

1495
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 8: offense and could play fast and not think very hard,

1496
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 8: he was playing a lot more physical and using it

1497
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 8: to his strengths.

1498
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 7: And I think he's been great these last couple of weeks.

1499
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 7: You know, I think Ota is the same with me.

1500
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 8: You know, you're just trying to learn it, and when

1501
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 8: you're thinking, you're not playing fast, and he's been playing

1502
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 8: a lot faster than playing well.

1503
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: You see where you like about cant or Seas against interest.

1504
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 7: Ken's great.

1505
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 8: I think with him it's it's great to be able

1506
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 8: to just talk through things with them. He will just

1507
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 8: you know, when we're out there and call it periods.

1508
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 8: He loves to call stuff from way back when, so

1509
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 8: you've got to be dialed like he'll call stuff. We

1510
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 8: haven't ran from Ota two practice until now, so you've

1511
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 8: got to be dialed on the whole offense. But with him,

1512
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 8: it's been a lot of focus on situational football, which

1513
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 8: is my opinion. The most important part of football, and

1514
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 8: we get reps on it every day and he has

1515
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 8: a vast knowledge of situational football.

1516
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 7: They've done it well.

1517
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 8: I mean they're first and two minute here last year,

1518
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 8: and I think that's been a huge part for me,

1519
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 8: is just to be able to learn all the situations

1520
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 8: and be able to get great reps and how this

1521
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 8: offense runs it.

1522
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 2: Did you and we were talking about learning just getting

1523
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: plays into the huddle. Obviously I do that here on

1524
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: campus stuff, but you're looking forward now at the game

1525
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: to actually have it being called in a game.

1526
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 7: Get the place to muddle, give it any quick, let's

1527
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 7: get to the line of scritage, let's go.

1528
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1529
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 7: I think that's I'm not really worried about that at

1530
01:11:59,240 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 7: this point.

1531
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 8: I think the way we train here, I think it's

1532
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 8: we make practice really hard from a play call, from

1533
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 8: a situation standpoint, so that when we get to the game,

1534
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 8: we have our refined stuff that we know we're gonna

1535
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 8: go and we'll be in confident with.

1536
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: All Right.

1537
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: That's Kyle Allen addressing the media after practice today. Kyle

1538
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 2: had a very good finish to practice. He had the

1539
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 2: last series on offense and after a batted pass to

1540
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: start the series. He hits Khalil Shakir underneath with a

1541
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: pass and then two touchdown passes during eleven on eleven

1542
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 2: red zone. He scrambles out to his left about that

1543
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: play Matt he was describing earlier, and then throws back

1544
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: across the grain to a wide open Joel Wilson, the

1545
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: undrafted rookie tight end for a touchdown. And then the

1546
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: last pass of training camp may have been one of

1547
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: his best of the whole camp, back corner of the

1548
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: end zone, drops it over the dB into the arms

1549
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: of Desmond Patman for a touchdown, and that was the

1550
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: last play of practice.

1551
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good practice, A nice little two

1552
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: hour deal. Lot of seven on seven, a lot of

1553
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: not really live stuff. They weren't in paths, but that

1554
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: pace is really fast. I told you I've been making

1555
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: this point the whole camp about when they go away

1556
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: to Saint John Fisher to have training camp. How I

1557
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: think it's good for all of those guys, particularly the

1558
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: veterans who have, you know, kind of established lives with

1559
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: wives and kids and families that they got that you

1560
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 1: know that they live in the house with right and

1561
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: they need to get away so they can think about

1562
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: football and get to know some new people without having

1563
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: to go home and take the trash out load of

1564
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: the dishwasher and put the kids to bed. All that

1565
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: stuff that the dads and fathers and husbands do to

1566
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: get away really helps. And this this training camp thing

1567
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: coming away to Saint John Fisher gives those guys a

1568
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: chance to, you know, get their arms around and get

1569
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: and do it. The pace of the practice. What I'm

1570
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: getting at is it used to be, you know, all

1571
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: these six week thing and it was an ordeal, and

1572
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: it was a physic brutally physical two a day's practice stuff.

1573
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: But the pace of those practices was commensurate with the

1574
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: physical beating you took. It would be it slowed down,

1575
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was. It was like it was

1576
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: like watching an engine without enough cogs to make it

1577
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: work right. It's like the thing was clunky. The whole

1578
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: practice was clunky. Guys would fight harder than they would practice.

1579
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: It was crazy. But you go out there now, it

1580
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: looks like it looks like the difference between an old

1581
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: plow tractor and a sports car. The sports car runs

1582
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: fast and clean, it hums, and that's the difference in

1583
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: the pace of these practices at Saint John Fisher and

1584
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: they would be at one of these old time camps

1585
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: that I was at, or even if you don't go

1586
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: away to it, they come out and they're ready to

1587
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: practice because there's there's no unfamiliarity. They spend all their

1588
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 1: days together as that will go out in practice. Let's practice.

1589
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: They practice together, they eat together, they they hang out together,

1590
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: and it all is at a pace that is just

1591
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: it clips right along. And you know, right here today

1592
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: we're the last day training camp already, I say, already,

1593
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: whether people at home realize it or not, this thing

1594
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: flew by.

1595
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we are not at training camp anymore because

1596
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: we are at the Delta Sonic location twenty nine to

1597
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: seventy West Henrietta Road here in the Rochester area, just

1598
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: down the road from Bill's training camp, one of our

1599
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: proud partners here. And if you have chance, swing on by,

1600
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: say hi. Steve might sign something, as long as it's

1601
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: not you know, part of your body blank you know,

1602
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: but you got a T shirt not a blank sheet.

1603
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: Don't you're gonna sign up for that?

1604
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: No, you know, I said, as long as it's not

1605
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: a blank check.

1606
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: Oh, as long as it's not a blank check. Okay.

1607
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, don't sign any blank checks.

1608
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: Man.

1609
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you got money, but how much

1610
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: do you have? So yeah, stop by, Steve Will say hi,

1611
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: seven time pro bowler, Bill's Wall of Famer and we'll

1612
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: be here till three. Get your car washed, and while

1613
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: you're waiting, pop in say hi to us. Twenty nine

1614
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: to seventy West Henrietta Road here in the Rochester area

1615
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: and topic of discussion for us when we come back. Steve,

1616
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: you heard Kyle Allen address it justin shorter and how

1617
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 2: he has started to come on in the second half

1618
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: of training camp. He praised him for his last two

1619
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: days of work, in particular, it looks like it's coming

1620
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: together for the fifth round pick, big tall, wide receiver

1621
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 2: at six four, two hundred and fifteen pounds. He's making

1622
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,440
Speaker 2: some plays the last couple of days. Again, plenty of opportunity.

1623
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: What does that mean for him rolling into the first

1624
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 2: preseason game on Saturday? Steve and I will discuss that

1625
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 2: with you when we return here on one Bill's Live

1626
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: presented by Colia Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

1627
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: back here at the Delta Sonic location twenty nine to

1628
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: seventy West Henrietta Road here in Rochester and just down

1629
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: the road around the corner and over the hill from

1630
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: Saint John Fisher where the Bills put a rap on

1631
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: training camp today their final practice this morning, they're probably

1632
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: doing the ndy five hundred back down the three. Why

1633
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: going back to Buffalo. I mean, it's funny we've seen

1634
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: over the years sometimes players are in the shower, out

1635
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: of the shower box, up their lunch, and it's like

1636
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: Peel and Rubber the parking lot to get back to

1637
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: their own bed, their own house, their own shower.

1638
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: To get a little time off and probably get tonight off,

1639
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: get a chance to go to dinner and whatever.

1640
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: And then mock game tomorrow, walk through like day tomorrow,

1641
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: like a Saturday before a Sunday game.

1642
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: Game tomorrow. We have actually production meetings tomorrow for the

1643
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: TV side of it with Brandon and Sean. Will have

1644
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: a chance to ask them some pretty specific questions about

1645
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen on game day, maybe some off the

1646
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: records background stuff they'll give us. It's always interesting to

1647
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: get into those meetings.

1648
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: They let's talk justin shorter here as we said we

1649
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: would rookie fifth round pick out of Florida, big target six, four,

1650
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: two fifteen, maybe a little bit more. And he's been

1651
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: given play of opportunities, which I think says something Steve

1652
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: when you run down the list of guys that go

1653
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 2: beyond what we would consider the top five receivers on

1654
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 2: this roster, which is namely Diggs, Davis, Sherfield, Hardy, and

1655
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: probably Shakir As you're five. I don't know if they're

1656
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: keeping more than six on the fifty three. I'm sure

1657
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 2: they'll keep a couple on the practice squad, but six

1658
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: on the fifty three in all likelihood, so you could

1659
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: argue you got four or five guys fighting for one spot.

1660
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: This is what I think is working in Shorter's favor.

1661
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: Number one. Clearly, they're trying to get him reps more

1662
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: so than some of those other players, and that has

1663
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: been the case from the jump in training camp, and

1664
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: I think here in the second week he's finally starting

1665
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: to kind of come on a little bit, and if

1666
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: he can use that as a springboard into these preseason games,

1667
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: I think that will help him immensely. And then part two,

1668
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: and I want you to address this since it's your specialty.

1669
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: He has been featured on a number of special teams

1670
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 2: units through the course of camp as well. Knowing as

1671
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 2: the sixth receiver probably not gonna get a lot of

1672
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: snaps on offense, right show, you deserve to be dressed

1673
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: on game day so you can play special.

1674
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,879
Speaker 1: Teams, so you can play punk punk return and kickoff return, kickoff.

1675
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: If he can play those four spot in those things

1676
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: that he's he's really got a leg up. He's big

1677
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: enough to do it. And think about this, We've been

1678
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: talking about this for the last couple of days, Browning.

1679
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: If you've got a bunch of receivers who big guys

1680
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: like six four two fifteen, like yeah, like shorter is,

1681
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: you can they can handle some matchups in special teams

1682
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: that guys like my size and hearty size and Khalil

1683
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: Shakir's size can't do. They can take the place of

1684
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: maybe an extra tight end that's a special team's core

1685
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: play or a linebacker who's this core team core guy

1686
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: on special teams like we've seen Dodson Medica a J. Klein,

1687
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 1: primarily to get a lot of reps on special teams. Well,

1688
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: if you're going with two tight two linebackers like the

1689
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: Bills have in the past. Maybe you don't keep six

1690
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 1: linebackers because four of them are gonna play special teams

1691
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: all the whole game. Maybe you can keep two extra

1692
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: wide receivers if they can play the four core special

1693
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: teams players. That kind of philosophy. Plus, I told you this,

1694
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: this league is still to me an arms race. We

1695
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: we ended the last season last year looking at Cincinnati

1696
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: with with Chase and Boyd and Higgins, and you've got

1697
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 1: tight End he's.

1698
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 2: Not there now, but he was.

1699
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: You've got Kansas City with they just reloaded with with

1700
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey and the guys you know, with Pacheco and then

1701
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: that it's an arms race. If you're gonna keep up,

1702
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: you need enough, you know, armaments to keep up. You know,

1703
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: you gotta shoot, you gotta shoot your guns.

1704
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: And that's and they went big at that position offseason.

1705
01:20:55,520 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: Desynt have enough weapons in an arms race, and that

1706
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: to me, that's not a linebacker. Yeah, you know, So

1707
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: if you get a guy like Shorter who can play

1708
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: some core special teams and take one of those linebacker

1709
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: spots on the total fifty three and give you an

1710
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: offensive weapon back that you could fall to or use

1711
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. You know, I think

1712
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: that's where the league is headed.

1713
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: Let's talk about guys that are in the hunt for

1714
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: that roster spot with Justin Shorter at the receiver position,

1715
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: I would say if you asked me to pick three

1716
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: others who are in close proximity to Shorter in terms

1717
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: of earning a roster spot as the sixth receiver, Like

1718
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: who's in that pool of candidates? I would put these

1719
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: guys in. If it was me, You tell me if

1720
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: you have the same people, I would go with Tyrrell Shavers,

1721
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,919
Speaker 2: Keishawn Johnson and Andy Isabella.

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01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: Those would be my three. That's exactly who I got. Okay,

1723
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: that's who I got. Now you can make a case

1724
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: for Brian Thompson and Isaiah Colter, Desmond Patman. He's got

1725
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: some size as well. But you've got the exact same

1726
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: guys I do, just because I you know, they look

1727
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: athletic enough to me to be a versatile athlete and

1728
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: a versatile weapon in a pinch. All of them could,

1729
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: particularly guys like Isabella, of course, but Isabella also could

1730
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: move outside and be a guy that can take the

1731
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: lid off the defense because he's of his speed. But

1732
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: I think the other guys like Shorter and Shavers and Johnson,

1733
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: they as big as they are well, with the exception

1734
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: of probably maybe Shavers, he's a little high cut. These

1735
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: guys could also move down inside on the slot like

1736
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: where kin Kaid is for instance. They could interchange with

1737
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: those because of their athleticism, they could get off the line,

1738
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: they could get it, they could go a two way

1739
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: break off the ball from a slot receiver. Those That's

1740
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: why I like all of these guys. He's in a pinch.

1741
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: They're a little more versatile, not only because of their

1742
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: size and special teams, but because of their ability to

1743
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: run routes and take an inside outside release. Maybe be

1744
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: an X receiver were an inside slot guy in a pinch.

1745
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: Not every snap, but in a pinch.

1746
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Right Keishawn Johnson, much like we were talking about with

1747
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: Who's the other receiver I was talking about that finished

1748
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: up strong? Was the tight end? Right? Who am I

1749
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: talking about?

1750
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: Joel Wilson?

1751
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't Joel Wilson.

1752
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1753
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: I was talking about somebody earlier that finished with really

1754
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: two oh, it was it was Dawson Knox. His best

1755
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: two days of camp for the last two days of camp.

1756
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,839
Speaker 2: Another guy who closed strong in my estimation was Keishawn

1757
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: Johnson had the catch of the day the other day

1758
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: on a twisting, one handed grab over his head in

1759
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: tight coverage and held on to the ball and then

1760
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 2: was a frequent target today Fresno State product. And you know,

1761
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: not the Kishawn Johnson everybody remembers. That's you know, probably

1762
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: fifty two years old. Now we're talking about the Kishawn

1763
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: Johnson of today, and I think he's going to get

1764
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: a good look at it. And then Andy is a Bella.

1765
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 2: Steve signs late. He's in late ad in training. Camp

1766
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: has already started. He's got to come in, cram the

1767
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 2: playbook and slowly but surely gets on the field and

1768
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: you know, running from that inside slot position, you know,

1769
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: just being five to eight and a buck seventy eight.

1770
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: But man, the guy is quick, short area quickness, straight

1771
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 2: line speed. Runs a four to three one. I mean,

1772
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: he can go. And they've had him on returns as well,

1773
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: So if you don't want to put all of the

1774
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: return work on Deontay Hardy. Now, in the absence of

1775
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: Nahem Heines, who's lost for the season, does Isabella become

1776
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: an option to keep on the roster or at the

1777
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: very least the practice squad. So if God forbid something

1778
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 2: happens to Hardy, you have some return talent in reserve.

1779
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 1: And I'm with you. Isabella came in and he's a

1780
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 1: fast guy. You could tell right away. You noticed it

1781
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: right away, and we could see it. But when they

1782
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: start doing one on ones and routes and some competitive

1783
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: stuff at the wide receiver position, he was struggling to

1784
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: get off the ball and I was like, well, that's

1785
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: why he was available. He struggles against press Man and

1786
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: all that. Shortly short. Yeah, but now but now over

1787
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: last week that he's been here and he's starting to

1788
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: get more. Today he ran a couple of releases that

1789
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: were top notch. He got loose, got free, and then

1790
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: he's Once he got ahead of the dB, which he

1791
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: did very quickly, he stepped in front of him so

1792
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: he couldn't keep up with you know, he had to

1793
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: kind of leverage. Yeah, he stepped. They call it stack

1794
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: in him where you get around him, you just step

1795
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: in front of him. So he's chasing you, but he's

1796
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: chasing you from directly behind.

1797
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: You got to slow down or he runs you old, right,

1798
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 2: he's not.

1799
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: On your shoulder, he's not on your hip, he's right

1800
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: behind you. You cut him off, so to speak. He

1801
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: did that a couple of times and snapped off a

1802
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: nice completion in one on ones, and it's markedly better

1803
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: than he was early on. Now you expect him to

1804
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: get better because he'd start to get more comfortable and

1805
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: start to move confident in the routes and stuff like that.

1806
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: He has played well the last couple of days.

1807
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if he can do better on the releases,

1808
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: as he said, Steve, as soon as he's even with you,

1809
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna win. Because now it's a foot race, that's right,

1810
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: and he's gonna win most foot races. The kid was

1811
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 2: a high school one hundred meter champ in the state

1812
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: of Ohio. You know who he beat in the finals,

1813
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: Denzel Ward, the fourth pick in the draft of the

1814
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns a few years ago. So the guy can go.

1815
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very interesting to see how he seems,

1816
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: you know, goes through the preseason.

1817
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: He seems to catch it well. They trust him to

1818
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: catch punts. He's been catching kickoffs, although kickoffs are pretty

1819
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: easy to catch. He's an intriguing prospect. They got him.

1820
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: He gives him. He gives him speed, which you're always

1821
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: looking for.

1822
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: More.

1823
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: You put him out there with hardy or a little undersized,

1824
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, you know those guys will get

1825
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: to lit off the defense. It changes things for the defense.

1826
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about what he could do.

1827
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: Break time for us. Here, one more segment to go

1828
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: as we are out here at the Delta Sonic twenty

1829
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: nine to seventy West Henrietta Road in Rochester. Stop on by,

1830
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 2: say hi, spin the wheel out front, win a prize

1831
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 2: and get your car washed in the process. Chris Brown,

1832
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker here on One Bill's Live, presented by Cold

1833
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 2: of Health.

1834
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1835
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live. One final segment here

1836
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 2: at the Delta Sonic location twenty nine to seventy West

1837
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: Henrietta Road. Come on down, spin the wheel, get some prizes.

1838
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: We're here for just a little bit longer. Steve sign

1839
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 2: its moutographs or some people coming by, and Billy Buffalo

1840
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: is here as well to say hello. He had to

1841
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: take the back door about a minute ago because there

1842
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: was a dog in the building, and let's just say

1843
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 2: he didn't want to be Billy's friend.

1844
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously or something.

1845
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Those were good evasive maneuvers there, Billy. I'm impressed with

1846
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: your agility and your quick quick footedness to get out

1847
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: of trouble there.

1848
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: That was a very nice job by you.

1849
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: So, Steve, what is the biggest thing you want to

1850
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: get out of the preseason game tomorrow? What do you

1851
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 2: want to feel about this team after it's over?

1852
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Healthy? Of course, I think I just like to see

1853
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: him be smooth in their operations, you know, look like

1854
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: a well oiled machine.

1855
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: I think it.

1856
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: There's always a little herky jerky aspect to it. I'd

1857
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: like to see some of the guys we don't know

1858
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: about yet say something, have something to say about it.

1859
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I like to see him win it.

1860
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I like to see him get used to doing that.

1861
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: But that's what I really like to see some of

1862
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: the guys we don't know about yet do some things

1863
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: that would that surprise us.

1864
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 2: I want to see some guys step up and take

1865
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: a job, whether that's you know, middle linebacker, right guard,

1866
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 2: second cornerback. I want to see one of those guys

1867
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: separate and rise above the competition and kind of stay. Hey,

1868
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: I want to take this job here. And you know,

1869
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 2: I feel like Billy's my coach here.

1870
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: He's he's I'll say this, it looks like he agrees

1871
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: with you more than he agreed with me. Yeah, he's well,

1872
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: he's everybody's friend.

1873
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: You know. That's all right. We're just about out of time.

1874
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 2: Our thanks to our friends and partners here at Delta

1875
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: Sonic at the West Henrietta Road location. Steve and I

1876
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: back to one back in studio, one Bill Drive.

1877
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: We'll see you that